Nebelwerfer Tactics

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@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
We are currently working on a translation of the Sturmgewehr 44 Assault Platoon Tactics Manual from November 1944. Get your copy here: igg.me/at/sturmzug
@TheLastSterling1304
@TheLastSterling1304 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you eventually found it, but regarding your confusing on the wurfarhmen 40 being in the pioneers yes they did have them mounted on 251 halftracks used in a similar role to the british avre. There were still nebelwerfer batteries using the same weapon though. Its much like how you can tell a what unit a stug is by its unit: platoon=panzers;battery=artillerie.
@bobjenkins2671
@bobjenkins2671 4 жыл бұрын
Hallo wie gets dir
@pickeljarsforhillary102
@pickeljarsforhillary102 4 жыл бұрын
Who had the best rocket system in your opinion?
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt 4 жыл бұрын
"Nebelwerfer" sounded like "Naval Warfare" and caused me to be very confused for the first 10-15 seconds....
@archosauropre-historico8708
@archosauropre-historico8708 4 жыл бұрын
Why this comment is 2weeks old, but the video only one day?
@randallreed9048
@randallreed9048 3 жыл бұрын
In 1978-79, I was designing my game "The Longest Day" as the head of R&D for the Avalon Hill Game Company. I had the luxury of spending many hours in the Captured German Documents section of the National Archives in Washington, DC. I was literally like a kid in the candy store, discovering many key documents that were the fruits of the extensive, detailed program of interrogations of German Generals and high-ranking staff officers after the end of the war. These translated reports were often accompanied by highly detailed drawings drawn by the Generals themselves. One of my significant finds was a report written by the General in charge of nebeltruppen during the Normandy Campaign in 1944. He detailed the organization and deployment of three nebelwerfer brigades attached to the 7th Armee / Armee Gruppe B. These were large formations consisting of three firing battalions per regiment, three regiments per brigade plus replacement and training batteries for a total of a minimum of 162 launchers behind the beaches in the first weeks of the invasion! This represented a large chunk of the throw-weight of artillery available to the 7th Armee. It could also explain the numerous persistent reports in letters and diaries from ordinary Allied soldiers decrying the fearful effects of German "screaming meemies," which were, in fact, nebelwerfers. This total of 162 launchers did not include the numerous Panzerwerfers and their batteries attached to divisional and corps-level organizations that are detailed in contemporaneous German TO&E diagrams. Accompanying the translated documents were exquisitely drawn diagrams created by the General in charge of nebeltruppen in his own highly precise hand. And yes, his diagrams showed numerous antitank guns, sections, and platoons attached to the battalions, presumably for self-defense purposes. They also showed a considerable number of 20mm flak guns to defend against Allied fighter-bombers. My impression is that these variations from published TO&E were quite common in the German Army in France and regularly included the attachment of underutilized equipment (particularly the depots full of fairly well-maintained captured French, Belgian, and British weaponry and vehicles.) The Germans in France wasted nothing.
@mil-collector_enby2250
@mil-collector_enby2250 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible that the French soldiers that legged it after seeing large clouds of a smoke screen launched at them... were French WW1 veterans that still had vivid memories of chemical weapons gas attacks. And so seeing something that looks like a cloud from artillery being launched at you could easily be mistaken for chemical gas and thus the desire to run would be strong.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Even if they were not veterans, I would expect the soldiers would have been expecting gas to be used as in WW1.
@arkadeepkundu4729
@arkadeepkundu4729 4 жыл бұрын
The French: _Hon! Hon! Hon!_ *Gets some nebel werfed at them* _Non! Non! Non!_
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 жыл бұрын
@@arkadeepkundu4729 Lol.
@haakonsteinsvaag
@haakonsteinsvaag 4 жыл бұрын
@Tranhoang Long most likly because of the horrific experiences of gass attacks in WW1. They knew that once one side start using gass, the other side will follow. In other words, both sides thought gass attacks as to terrible to use or used against themselves.
@mikhailiagacesa3406
@mikhailiagacesa3406 4 жыл бұрын
@Tranhoang Long Hitler was personally gassed in the Great War, and the Allies had access to larger stocks of the stuff than the Germans. Goering said the reason Germany didn't use it was because they couldn't supply their horses w/ masks, like they did in the 1st WW, due to production and logistical problems.
@thatsidewaysdud7623
@thatsidewaysdud7623 4 жыл бұрын
Hate it when you have a Nebelwerfer lying around and you don’t know how to tactically use it.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Nothing worse than not being able to werf your nebel.
@dandare2586
@dandare2586 4 жыл бұрын
I wheeled out my nebelwerfer in front of my troublesome neighbour, that was my only tactic.......
@wraithwyvern528
@wraithwyvern528 4 жыл бұрын
I mean unless you have the rockets, a Nebelwerfer is just some angry tubes
@abntemplar82
@abntemplar82 4 жыл бұрын
@@dandare2586 did it work or did he bring out his Tiger?
@rustyshackleford8370
@rustyshackleford8370 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I spent the extra money and bought a Katyusha launcher. The only downside is accuracy... I tried to shoot my neighbor's house but it was windy and I burned down the next city over instead🤷‍♂️
@LewisRenovation
@LewisRenovation 4 жыл бұрын
This video came out just in time since my wife wants a Nebelwerfer implacement in our back yard
@DirtyHairy1
@DirtyHairy1 4 жыл бұрын
Please note that the allies dubbed this device as FART - Fog applying Rocket Thrower.
@pekka1900
@pekka1900 4 жыл бұрын
Verdammte Engländer..
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@ВладиславШевченко-с8р
@ВладиславШевченко-с8р 4 жыл бұрын
Ive never been to war, but from training i can say that smoke is the single most important weapon in the offense, because it covers friendly infantry crossing open ground from effective enemy fire thus allowing to close in without unnecessery casualties. And smoke is also somewhat usefull in the defence, when you need to get the hell out of your position, but theres not much cover around the said position
@wraithwyvern528
@wraithwyvern528 4 жыл бұрын
Smoke works both ways and care must be taken to screen friendly assault units and keep the enemy from being able to suppress them while giving support units unobstructed views of enemy positions and can still attack and suppress them. Defensively smoke can be used to mask an enemy support weapon that is suppressing your defenses and as you said in a retreating maneuver. Unlike most weapons, wind and weather need to be carefully noted before deploying smoke even in a small scale. In my opinion, smoke is most useful for covering retreats and masking enemy support weapons while your own weapons move in to eliminate them when the smoke clears.
@abntemplar82
@abntemplar82 4 жыл бұрын
maybe 50 years ago. but all ifvs and mbts today have thermal imaging making a smoke screen less effective to say the very least. of course if all you are fighting is old school soviet crap, it will work just fine. But an enemy with any modern or modernized weapons, all it will really do is give away your position.
@ВладиславШевченко-с8р
@ВладиславШевченко-с8р 4 жыл бұрын
@@abntemplar82 Well, i have no idea about any truely technologically advanced army, but what I know is all APC's and IFV's in the russian army have NVD. Less than 20% have any resemblance of thermal, same can be said for some older tanks stockpiled in large quantities in reserves. Hell, russia still has a stockpiled of T34, T44 which can still be put back into action in case of a total war. Its not sayang about infantry that Will definately get blinded which even provided their vehicle is still capable of firing, still redices the overall fire capabilities of the defenders. Having only vehicles firing is still less firepower than having both vehicles and accompaning infantry firing.
@ВладиславШевченко-с8р
@ВладиславШевченко-с8р 4 жыл бұрын
@@wraithwyvern528 well, blinging enemy heavy wrapons and forvard observers doesn't take as much smoke as in the offense, because you need to blinda a comparatively small area while in the offense you need to deploy smoke both along the entire frontier (as close to the enemy as possible) and along the flanks of the attack, thus preventing enemy adjacent units from effective flanking fire, while still providing clear frontal view for friendly neighbouring units. Of course covering the flanks is only possible under favorable wind conditions.
@abntemplar82
@abntemplar82 4 жыл бұрын
@@ВладиславШевченко-с8р NVGs just magnify ambient light. Thermals detect heat sources. that is why smoke is useless against them. it gives comfort to those charging, and your comments prove this, but if you ever get the chance to use Thermals, you will understand that smoke does not hide work to protect you from detection vrs. thermals. further i find it hard to believe in todays world that the Russian army has only 20% of its armored vehicles equipped with thermals. thermals are a staple to the Nato and US allies. But i will concede the fact that you as a Russian soldier have more knowledge on that than i. be safe my friend. i pray your time in the military is peaceful, and that our nations never square off. of course if our democrats have their way we would already be at war with Russia. stupid is as stupid does, I guess.
@Anastunsia
@Anastunsia 4 жыл бұрын
"Currently we have a Kraut-funding campaign going" Please tell me i'm not the only one that heard it
@yngveahlenback320
@yngveahlenback320 4 жыл бұрын
I jumped in my chair when I heard it!
@tomislavtosic992
@tomislavtosic992 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, he didnt say that?
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 4 жыл бұрын
He's Austrian, so he's not a Kraut.
@windwalker5765
@windwalker5765 4 жыл бұрын
Lol didn't want to be the first to comment...
@Warentester
@Warentester 4 жыл бұрын
@@EdMcF1 Debatable. They voluntarily joined.
@wiggumesquilax9480
@wiggumesquilax9480 4 жыл бұрын
I'd already started digging my Nebelwerfer position, looks like I have to start over. It's the field fortifications all over again.. Thanks, MHV.
@looinrims
@looinrims 4 жыл бұрын
Nebelwerfer tactics: “do you see that building, Hanz?” “Ja” “Then you understand the problem, solve it”
@ThePfistara
@ThePfistara 4 жыл бұрын
- Pulls out some Sturmtiger -
@AlvinREDDELTA
@AlvinREDDELTA 4 жыл бұрын
make me laugh dude ALES KHARL
@michaelmorley9363
@michaelmorley9363 4 жыл бұрын
My father was an infantryman in the U.S. 7th Armored Division in 1944 and '45. He told me that they called the Nebelwerfers "Screamin' Mimis" because of the noise they made, and that the sound was more terrifying than the shellbursts.
@ralphe5842
@ralphe5842 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Morley my father called them the same thing he was in he 84th infantry
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 4 жыл бұрын
As my garden gnomes are currently at war with the frogs in nearby Swamphaven this video was of particular interest. I will advise my gnome friends to mobilize their Nebelwerfers by attaching their trailers to neighborhood kittens. Thus fulfilling the words of the great poet who said: "The fog comes in on little cat feet."
@garydouglass3597
@garydouglass3597 4 жыл бұрын
owch. I'm going to steal that and submit it to Better Gnomes and Gardens.
@XLHeavyD999
@XLHeavyD999 4 жыл бұрын
Rofl... those damned Gnomes always invade my garden and stalk my cats.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 жыл бұрын
It has been three days. I trust, your Gnomes have found success in the war. All the best.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 жыл бұрын
@@garydouglass3597 Lol.
@johngalt6929
@johngalt6929 4 жыл бұрын
That is totally heavy man.
@DEIMIKK
@DEIMIKK 4 жыл бұрын
Literally my boss behind my back: "What are you listening to?" Me: "How to setup a rocketartillerybattery...." "Oh..." 😂👌
@DEIMIKK
@DEIMIKK 4 жыл бұрын
@ I'll be sure to do that. We could benefit from certain... Hmmm how should I put this.... Nebelzone in some points of production 🤔
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 4 жыл бұрын
I would have said "I'm learning to werfer a nebel." 😁
@stevenbaer5999
@stevenbaer5999 3 жыл бұрын
I am a German Bavarian decent person and I always love those German rockets, Nebelwerfer. They had a great terrible sound effects which the Americans called them Screaming Meemies. It was actually a cross between a shriek and a cry. Causing it to have a great psychological impact. We Germans always invented the best weapons in our history.
@matthewlee8667
@matthewlee8667 4 жыл бұрын
Now I can set up a Nebelwerfer in my garden to ward off rabbits and mice
@billbolton
@billbolton 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, unfortunately my garden isn't big enough, considering annexing the neighbors'.
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 4 жыл бұрын
You need that living space, naturally.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 3 жыл бұрын
You do what you have to do, in order to protect the oppressed garden gnome minority in your neighbors' gardens.
@3er24t4g1
@3er24t4g1 4 жыл бұрын
Es ist ein nebelwerfer Es warferen nebels
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т
@ОлегКозлов-ю9т 4 жыл бұрын
Ich hatten dieses Wirtz erwarten
@neieduardodepaula4556
@neieduardodepaula4556 4 жыл бұрын
How many nebels has it werfen?
@3er24t4g1
@3er24t4g1 4 жыл бұрын
@@neieduardodepaula4556 sechs
@POTATOEH81
@POTATOEH81 4 жыл бұрын
I like how I know what you said even though I don't speak a lick of german This is a nebel werfer It werf's nebels
@neieduardodepaula4556
@neieduardodepaula4556 4 жыл бұрын
​@@3er24t4g1 Gut
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 4 жыл бұрын
When you see a patch of ground that has been insufficiently nebelled, point your nebelwerfer at it.
@Ralphieboy
@Ralphieboy 4 жыл бұрын
To find out the parts that need it, you employ nebel-gazers
@Isoroku21
@Isoroku21 4 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of something I read in a book while back. During operation "Barbarossa" germans field-tested early version of fuel-air explosive using Nebelwerfer. In response to that soviets over loudspeakers threatened to use chemical weapons if used again.
@seanmatto2258
@seanmatto2258 Жыл бұрын
I heard of that too
@RocketGurney
@RocketGurney 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video, I'd assume that it has to do with the delicate art of werfing nebels.
@MagnusVictor2015
@MagnusVictor2015 4 жыл бұрын
3:30 Given how recent the memories in France were of gas warfare in WW1, one wonders if some French soldiers in 1940 saw the Germans launching lots of 'smoke' at them and simply figured that the Nazis had broken out the chemical weapons.
@danielrupe8052
@danielrupe8052 3 жыл бұрын
The Germans did not have this weapon until they invaded the Soviet Union. The Germans encountered the Stalin's organ. The Germans copied it and renamed it the nebelwerfer.
@HawkFire74
@HawkFire74 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielrupe8052 Uhhh, no? Most of the Nebelwerfer varients were developed before Barbarossa, even the iconic 6 barrel configurations were in development and started reaching troops before it began.
@davidreeding9176
@davidreeding9176 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite time of the day is when it is time to talk about nebelwerfer tactics
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson 4 жыл бұрын
In regards to the Moral effect. I wonder how much of that was the opposition (especially early war) thinking it may be a WW1 type gas attack?
@OmarSlloum
@OmarSlloum 4 жыл бұрын
After a week or so in service it would lose that effect anyway as Germany didn't use gas shells anymore, so the Allies probably wouldn't mistake it for anything else
@michaelmorley9363
@michaelmorley9363 4 жыл бұрын
According to my father, the noise was the worst thing about them.
@abntemplar82
@abntemplar82 4 жыл бұрын
spot on there i'm sure. the horrors of the gas attacks were big news for decades after WW1 and even after WW2. proof of this is that chemical weapons weren't made illegal till the 1954 Hague conventions on the rules of war. side note Geneva conventions only designate the status of (uniformed vr non uniformed combatants as an example) and the required treatment of POWs.
@pilferedserenity1570
@pilferedserenity1570 4 жыл бұрын
Partly true. The smoke, even if it is not gas or white phosphorous, is still going to be unpleasant to be in. And unlike if there are conventional shells raining down, you can't even see the enemy to shoot nor know where they are, so it might seem rather pointless remaining in the smoke.
@GenScinmore
@GenScinmore 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao "Nebelwerfer garden"
@HighwayMule
@HighwayMule 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth to add that these were also used as an enormously effective terror weapon in urban combat. During the Warsaw Uprising the German units used them for massed bombardment of civilian quarters. The people called the Werfers the 'cow' or 'the wardrobe' due to the terrifying, prolonged creaking- or whining-like sounds they produced during the firing of a volley.
@jryder8874
@jryder8874 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, just as school ends
@michelstadt
@michelstadt 4 жыл бұрын
Good day...a Freudian slip perhaps,"Krautfunding"...."Crowdfunding").?hehheh
@rezabagherian3331
@rezabagherian3331 4 жыл бұрын
Ur time In school is the best time literally When you enter the university the real game begins Imagine waking up 3Am and having to study Data Structures Even roosters sleep 3 in the morning
@erichelvie8524
@erichelvie8524 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished restoring a Nebelwerfer model when this video came up.
@MrKersey
@MrKersey 4 жыл бұрын
Was that an old 1/35 Esci/Italeri Nebelwerfer?
@silverinternational101
@silverinternational101 4 жыл бұрын
Kraut-funding, that's funny 😁
@gweiloxiu9862
@gweiloxiu9862 4 жыл бұрын
"Screaming mimi"....Stuka zu Fuss. These things were terror weapons and more. I am not young and have been fortunate enough to know some American WWII vets who served in the European Theater. The Nebelwerfer is something mentioned by name as one of the most hated of things they had to fight against. Thanks for the video.
@Grahf0
@Grahf0 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *upon seeing "Nebelwerfer"* Is THAT what Princess Leia called Han?
@matarikitamaiti3493
@matarikitamaiti3493 4 жыл бұрын
Unpolished rusty nebelwerfer or something like that
@RolloTonéBrownTown
@RolloTonéBrownTown 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I watched the corresponding video, it made this video much better although it's good on its own merit.
@jahrazzjahrazz8858
@jahrazzjahrazz8858 4 жыл бұрын
6:29 could have been translated slightly better, I think the original text meant "It is often advantageuou to *only prepare* fire against these targets, to ambush them at crucial stages of the battle". So basically to get ready to take them out beforehand, but dont pull the trigger until it is too late for the enemy to react and replace their plans
@kev_sen
@kev_sen 4 жыл бұрын
Nebelwerfers and Mortars were amongst the deadliest weapons of the entire war and don't receive as much attention as they should for how effective they were . They could not be easily silenced and could fire away from concealed positions which were impossible to locate from the air or from traditional counter battery measures. The problem was so severe that the Allies brought a team of research scientists and deployed 100 anti-aircraft radar batteries to try and deal with the German 81mm&105mm Mortars and Nebelwerfers in Western Europe.
@KorporalNoobs
@KorporalNoobs 4 жыл бұрын
**minor translation issue** 4:48 "wirkt vorhangartig" was translated as "looks like". I would argue that, because it is about usage, the word "wirkt" is probably to be read as "acts like", which would describe the effect as well as the appearance.
@beertruk2429
@beertruk2429 4 жыл бұрын
"I hope you learnt something new about Nebelwerfer Tactics and how to set up a proper Nebelwefer position in your garden, if you fancy that." Bloody good idea. Those bloody uni students and their loud pissups in the house down the road. Who said that the Germans don't have a sense of humour? To be honest I did learn something. I was always under the impression that they fired only HE. I didn know that they were used for smoke.
@lknanml
@lknanml 4 жыл бұрын
I want to dig out Company of Heroes because of this video. Awesome work!
@searpaintball
@searpaintball 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another informative and entertaining video! If I may suggest a topic, I would love learn more about Panzerjäger I. I'm aware of its disadvantages, although it had been a definite step up from a static AT gun. I would like more about how it was supposed to be employed, what were its combat capabilities and how well was the 4,7 cm gun working. I would also be interested whether there are any mentions of field improvements - for instance adding a simple observation slits on both sites of the shield. Or perhaps a periscope installed.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
there are various vehicle videos upcoming, but the Panzerjäger I is not on the list, mainly since I don't had access to one yet. (Not sure if there even survivors)
@johnnypopulus5521
@johnnypopulus5521 4 жыл бұрын
I use all these tactics both in the videos, medium tank company manual & when I get assault unit manual, that one too in all of my war video games. Now I just need to now individual tactics for MMG on placement, use & repositioning after firing so I can apply that too.
@derpatrizier
@derpatrizier 4 жыл бұрын
I have read that the Nebelwerfer was named after an engeneer Ing. Nebel to disguise their offensive nature from the treaty of Versailles.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
partially true, the name was a disguise for the chemical troops, then again the troops also had the mission to deploy smoke, which also makes sense since gas and smoke behave rather similar. Yet, they were not named after the engineer Nebel, he claimed it in his memoirs, yet he dates that back to WW1 for rockets fired from aircraft. Yet, if you consider that the first Nebelwerfer of the Wehrmacht were actually large mortars this makes little sense, similarly, the various other rockets produced and used were also not called "Nebelwerfer". Also veterans of the Nebeltruppe particularly point out that they were not named after the engineer.
@RichardBoisvert
@RichardBoisvert 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming nebelwerfers have the high soft attack
@jamesharmer9293
@jamesharmer9293 4 жыл бұрын
Always good to know how to set up your Nebelwerfers !!
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video regarding the Nebelwerfer tatics. I knew that they were quite effective but you have not mentioned that there was never enough of them and was hampered by the ever increasing chronic shortage of fuel....
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 4 жыл бұрын
In war games I always used them against infantry trying to flank.
@CrazyBomber22
@CrazyBomber22 4 жыл бұрын
One day I'll have a garden. And on that day, preparations will begin...
@Willy_Tepes
@Willy_Tepes 4 жыл бұрын
Smoke screens are very effective even today as most imaging systems cannot see through it. I can imagine being fortified in some dense urban area and you can see nothing, you know nothing of how the battle is going, you can't see your comrades or leaders, all you hear is tanks rolling down the street, gunfire and explosions. I think this tactic is still effective if combined with jamming of communications. Send some small and agile drones in to create panic, they can fly predetermined paths and thus are not vulnerable to jamming. You can even employ the Stuka effect with drones if you have a nice smoke screen to amplify the chaos of it. Yeah I know, I have a twisted imagination. They should have hired me years ago or given me some funding. Seeing that there is a war brewing, I will get to try out my ideas ;)
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 4 жыл бұрын
It's worth watching just to hear you say nebelwerfer.
@saltyyf1802
@saltyyf1802 4 жыл бұрын
French soldier sees germans launching smoke: *"Hey I've seen this one before!"*
@kaiserjager2338
@kaiserjager2338 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a video much more useful than Lessons in Online classes
@TokayGekko
@TokayGekko 4 жыл бұрын
Will you do another round of the "You had me at..." Sturmtiger t-shirt?
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
There will be something soon...
@TokayGekko
@TokayGekko 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized Yey!
@crowsbridge
@crowsbridge 4 жыл бұрын
I love the sound they make
@ew3612
@ew3612 4 жыл бұрын
Why would they prepare positions with trenches before firing the nebelwerfer? I was under the impression that they had to move as soon as they fired due to counter-battery. Also that their positions were so easy to find due to the trails of smoke leading right to them.
@habu027
@habu027 4 жыл бұрын
...it is not required... Whew! I was going to have to stop the video immediately. But really, I love this guy.
@kryts27
@kryts27 4 жыл бұрын
The Nebelwerfer batteries were often (according to field manuals) deployed in earthworks, like artillery, but unlike artillery they did not have the range or accuracy. I can see the need for the earthworks defences as these batteries needed to be closer to the front line, so were more vulnerable to counter-fire. The only thing I will state in support of rocket batteries in any army of that period (in comparison to artillery) is that the rockets could fire multiple shells from any unit at a rapid rate, since up to a dozen rockets were loaded and fired simultaneously, whereas the artillery could only fire one shell from one gun. In effect, the Nebelwerfer could fire a mass of high explosive & smoke canisters, inaccurately at fairly short range.
@reverserestorations26
@reverserestorations26 2 жыл бұрын
I now know how to pronounce "nebelwerfer" thank you. English speaking people generally pronounce it neh- bull-wer-fur
@spot1401
@spot1401 4 жыл бұрын
To this day, fog lights are mandatory on german cars. just saying
@helliswar
@helliswar 4 жыл бұрын
Most underrated weapon
@charleswade2514
@charleswade2514 4 жыл бұрын
Class is on session. Taking notes
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 4 жыл бұрын
The Katyusha was quite effective on the Eastern Front and was feared by the Germans.
@bigtfromdc1
@bigtfromdc1 3 жыл бұрын
I like the guidelines on when to use it...basically if you have some ammo use it!
@ming9630
@ming9630 4 жыл бұрын
I truly like your videos with English and German text side-by-side. If you could read the German text, that will be better. Especially for presenting German materials from the source, your reading brings more realistic feeling like how these manuals were being read by soldiers back in WW2. Otherwise, it's like an Allied interpretation of the German manual. But this is already great anyway. Thanks a lot!
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
in my early videos I also read the German, but it discontinued it, since it didn't provide much value and made the videos unnecessarily longer.
@ming9630
@ming9630 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized I think the greatest value is your presentation of German weapons and technical term in GERMAN. It has the authentic and realistic feeling. Since you already have the German and English text, reading the text from German manual will add more dramatized effects. Since there are not many of those texts, the video content is well balanced with English (maybe 95%) and some German (maybe 5%).
@ming9630
@ming9630 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized In your video about flak tower you read both German and English text. You read German first (and quickly) and then English. Maybe you could read English first (in the speed like you normally do, no change), but read German second, in the same speed like you read English (not trying to finish quickly), do you think that will be better?
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna change that. I don't think the two language narration added much.
@ming9630
@ming9630 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized No problem. I was just saying that there is great value when you read the terms of weapons and technical terms in German. Your channel is the only one that does that. I have not seen similar channels for presenting other countries such as Russia or Japan in the way you present Germany in WW2. But it's up to you to decide.
@ldmitruk
@ldmitruk 4 жыл бұрын
I could have sworn you said "Kruat funding campaign."
@antiantifa886
@antiantifa886 4 жыл бұрын
This is one I’ve been waiting for!👍🏻
@amaladiguna8873
@amaladiguna8873 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video, especially about the effect it had on tanks. While on the subject though, how effective would modern HE artillery (tube or rocket) be when used on tank formations?
@rikulappi9664
@rikulappi9664 4 жыл бұрын
I recall that in the 80' a rule of thumb was that if a 152mm/155mm artillery round exploded closer than 5 meters from a MBT it was likely to effectively damage the tank, possibly disabling it more or less permanently. Naturally only sides and rear of an MBT were at risk. Frontal armour required a direct hit. I guess this is valid today. A WWII tank would had normally been destroyed.
@whitephillip6997
@whitephillip6997 4 жыл бұрын
If y'all like this stuff, checkout the game Men Of War: Assault Squad 2 & get the Robz mod from the steam workshop! Has historically accurate units, all the tanks, weapons, equipment etc you can imagine! & With the mod it's basically a simulation where you can recreate epic battles of WW2 (or WW1) with the "Great War" mod!
@thepruh1151
@thepruh1151 4 жыл бұрын
Singleplayer orientated game for the longest of times :( wish multiplayers were more populated but I guess the loyal people over on the workshop gives it its breath of life
@wraithwyvern528
@wraithwyvern528 4 жыл бұрын
With how much effort the devs put into Assault Squad 2, it's a miracle it hasn't died 5 years ago.
@whitephillip6997
@whitephillip6997 4 жыл бұрын
@@wraithwyvern528 that's true, the modders are only reason it wasn't forgotten month after release
@whitephillip6997
@whitephillip6997 4 жыл бұрын
@Eric Fapton I looked for Gates Of Hell on the steam store & couldn't find it... is it released yet? Thanks!
@501Mobius
@501Mobius 4 жыл бұрын
Any information on the accuracy would be helpful.
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 2 жыл бұрын
The basic launcher design could work nicely today for Javelin among others and need weigh little since those weapons are quite lightweight. A manually revolving rack would make installation and removal of Javelin tubes quick and easy while leaving one weapon in battery ready to shoot. That solves the (severe) rate of fire limitation of Javelin and would make individually designating targets then firing a simultaneous barrage practical and convenient though that would require ability to integrate multiple designators (easy enough for LockMart). Instead of being killed by approaching formations while desperately reloading, missileers could kill them simultaneously with terrifying effect.
@brianjohnson5272
@brianjohnson5272 3 жыл бұрын
I can think why some during the battle for France was impactful. It was the fear of a gas attack. With the horror stories from dad and grandpa of it I would be freaking out at a nebelwerfer attack with smoke.
@CasperInkyMagoo
@CasperInkyMagoo 4 жыл бұрын
Are the tags for the “propellant” and “payload” on the nebelwerfer diagram reversed? It seems odd that the payload would be in the rear...
@gabrielefordinisonni5264
@gabrielefordinisonni5264 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's an error, since most of the time it's the propellent to be marked with parallel oblique lines
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
No see the first video
@abntemplar82
@abntemplar82 4 жыл бұрын
so you want to put your ammo out ahead of your firing position? i think that is a bit on the severely stupid side and for obvious reasons i don't or shouldn't have to list.
@CasperInkyMagoo
@CasperInkyMagoo 4 жыл бұрын
abntemplar82 thanks for that. Extremely helpful and kindly worded!
@steveweidig5373
@steveweidig5373 4 жыл бұрын
@@abntemplar82 the nozzles are also practically on the side of the rocket. The intention was probably to explode while still being somewhat above ground, thus covering a larger area with shrapnels, increasing it's efficacy against soldiers and unarmored targets.
@karlgerat2731
@karlgerat2731 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I’m ready for the 4th of july!
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with the Nebelwerfer was the smoke trail it left behind, which made them easy to spot for counter-battery fire from artillery guns.
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! Now I know how to put mine to proper use.
@keanur6541
@keanur6541 4 жыл бұрын
Bernhard do you play hell let loose?
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
I did a bit, but I am too old and blind 😂 switched to sea of thieves recently, more my pace.
@brianreddeman951
@brianreddeman951 4 жыл бұрын
Well that dashes my hopes of setting up a battery in my yard...
@daswordofgork9823
@daswordofgork9823 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite units in Company of Heroes.
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 4 жыл бұрын
I thought they were named after Rudolf Nebel?
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 4 жыл бұрын
Hint: rockets have propellant at the end where the fire comes out, and the payload is at the end of the rocket that hits the target first. One slip in editing is understandable, but you showed us this error several times.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
hint watch the first video, since this was the design for a particular reason. > but you showed us this error several times. more you like you are unable to pay proper attention.
@robertcurran2765
@robertcurran2765 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Now I'm all set to werf some nebels!
@kevincalhoun9653
@kevincalhoun9653 4 жыл бұрын
I want to ask about if in your translation, what you defined as (surprised), might be also defined as Suppresoin ?
@andysatrioajie7886
@andysatrioajie7886 4 жыл бұрын
is it possible to fire mixed amunition for example 1,3,5 use fog and 2,4,6 use HE?
@jrd33
@jrd33 4 жыл бұрын
The HE and smoke projectiles had different weights so I doubt the flight characteristics would be identical. Probably easier to have some wefers in the battery firing HE and the others smoke. I doubt you'd ever fire a single werfer alone due to the poor accuracy.
@steeljawX
@steeljawX 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just spitball'n on this because I wasn't there and I've never come under niebelwerfer fire, but I'd imagine the smoke round demoralization factor also came down to the realization of, "Hey, this smoke/gas (I'm not sure, I'm panicking right now) round landed 5 meters away from me. If they load an HE round next. . . . " I'm hoping that's clear. It's a very disorienting and very clever warning shot of sorts. It's kinda like how in the heat of battle, any German tank with a big gun, turret, and a slightly boxy hull is a Tiger I; when the majority of the time it was either a Pzkw III or IV. A large round has landed near you that is pouring out smoke that may or may not be immediately harmful to you. What's stopping anyone from the next one being a bit more reactive? They clearly can hit you whether or not they know it. Paraphrasing Mr. Miyagi, "The best way to avoid being exploded by a niebelwerfer HE round is to not be within its range." The Allies didn't know much about the niebelwerfer at the time, so anything within a niebelwerfer's best range was probably considered a danger zone.
@t.swallgren9204
@t.swallgren9204 4 жыл бұрын
So what really was the destruction power of rocket launchers ammo compared to field artillery? Do we have to focus more the weight of warhead or whole weight of rocket? At least Soviet Katjusha was relatively inaccurate compared to results of well trained field artillery unit fired targets.
@matshagglund3550
@matshagglund3550 4 жыл бұрын
I checked lately statistics of both German and Soviet artillery munition expenditure from 1942-1944. And now forget all those claims how much more ammo Soviet produced than Germany because actually the Germans outproduced Soviet U with high marginal (50% more artillery ammo tons in 1944). Red Army always had more artillery pieces but it was relatively light. Germans also were better feeding their outnumbered artillery pieces as this example proved: www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2018/10/24/german-versus-soviet-artillery-at-kursk/
@milossojic291
@milossojic291 4 жыл бұрын
Your work is great ! Would it be possible/feasible to have audio in German as well? Given that your first language is German and your explanations are fantastic, your videos would be phenomenal source for learning German language and of course German speaking audience could enjoy them even more. Thanks (you may reply in German as well)
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
thanks, not feasible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmTTZZeLe6eSrLc
@milossojic291
@milossojic291 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized thank you and now I understand challenges that you have to face. Keep up the good work and I apologize for asking redundant questions. Stay safe !
@esbennrum3657
@esbennrum3657 4 жыл бұрын
Krautfunding....thats awesome
@JaketheCultist
@JaketheCultist 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is random, long time listener to your channel, but can you possibly do a video on Albert Speer's, "economic miracle?"
@talknight2
@talknight2 4 жыл бұрын
HoI4 gang, do you use rocket artillery/rocket truck artillery in your divisions?
@Tijgert
@Tijgert 4 жыл бұрын
Kraut funding? I bet I'm the first one to note that ;)
@tankspritze
@tankspritze 4 жыл бұрын
For all those who has no idea about the name " Nebelwerfer": This has nothing to do with fog. The man who invented this kind of weapon was Rudolf Nebel, an engeneer who participated in WWI and who made first experiments with rockets. The German army used later his name to design this kind of weapon. Another type of rocket launcher was called "DO-Werfer or Dornberg Werfer" this was less or mor the same weapon, but mounted on a halftruck and the name come from the engeener who created this weapon "Karl Dornberger" It was typical for the german army to call weapons like the person who invented it.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
every book I read notes that this is wrong. Especially since it makes little sense to name a complete arm after the inventor, this was done with no other arm and additionally as outlined, their job was to deploy smoke. you mean the Panzerwerfer?
@dr.johannesmunch891
@dr.johannesmunch891 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to See a comparison between the Nebelwerfer and the Katjuscha-truck
@bookranter3488
@bookranter3488 4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! Could you do one about German NCOs? I have always heard great things about their quality as combatants and leaders of troops, respect within their army and prestige abroad when compared with their foreign counterparts
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 4 жыл бұрын
I mean typically in any military regardless of shape, the NCO are effectives.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 4 жыл бұрын
Might happen at one point. I think I have some sources, but few.
@paulhammersley4562
@paulhammersley4562 4 жыл бұрын
every time you say "Nebelwerfer" i cant stop giggling,
@hoodoo2001
@hoodoo2001 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of trouble when artillery could fire smoke shells. Were the Germans limited in artillery?
@davidmarsden9800
@davidmarsden9800 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, may come in handy in case of a no deal Brexit.
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 4 жыл бұрын
It werfs nebels
@janhaanstra2245
@janhaanstra2245 4 жыл бұрын
3:02 Kraut-funding 😆 Still, keep up the good work 👍
@antonteodor6305
@antonteodor6305 4 жыл бұрын
Nebelwerfer tactics Step 1: Werf Step 2: Nebels
@TheSonicfrog
@TheSonicfrog 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there were Scheißevorschrift for friendly troops hit by short Nebelwerfer rounds ...
@smokejaguarsix7757
@smokejaguarsix7757 4 жыл бұрын
Smoke cannot always be employed effectively at any time. It works best at certain times of day and weather conditions. High wind on a sunny day just blows it right up and can dissapate. Throw smoke at the right time of day and it will just sit there and ruin an attack....or make one possible. Some units need Smoke to mask their approach in order to be effective as they would be vulnerable without it.
@benquinney2
@benquinney2 4 жыл бұрын
You never knew where it would show up
@bullgrim
@bullgrim 4 жыл бұрын
This is my Nebelwerfer. it Werfs Nebels!!!!!!
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