Mill is a Timeless Archetype | MTG Arena

[@littlecreature5182]

The first guy scooped because you hit EVERY COPY OF STONE RAIN. An insane Tasha's.

[@graog123]

Only 3

[@utsuhoreiuji6155]

@@graog123 last one is in graveyard, so there's nothing left in deck

[@tomb5353]

Has there ever been a format + player combination more joyful than Timeless + Crim?

[@elesh.n]

That last play with pushing your own crab was genius. I've played rakdos mid at the most competitive level for the last 2 years and not even I would have thought to game that hard with push.

[@moshman989]

He already had revolt from the lembas sac pre-draw, could have pushed both of the other players creatures.

[@DarkbOOy79]

@@moshman989 For Revolt you have to control the permanent leaving the battlefield.

[@FallingIsReverseAscending]

@@moshman989revolt should only trigger on permanents you control, the lembas was the opponent controlled artifact

[@yavivanov6650]

guess you were a pretty bad player, since it's an obvious play

[@whoopsmymeds]

I wish I had as much fun doing literally anything as Crim does playing Magic

[@steamrat3593]

You should play magic

[@BobardeZanzibar]

Specifically mill.

[@corpsefoot758]

It helps to get paid for it lmao

[@horsebones727]

@@corpsefoot758 awwww yes, the dream 😂 my wife might finally endorse my addiction instead of loving me in spite of.

[@nomeacuerdo]

The loss with the Lembas was mind boggling. I wonder if they had something in their hand that would change that outcome in any way.

[@Uzotrups]

The fatapush crab line. ❤❤❤❤

[@Rana__]

Honestly with Nexus (makes the matchup easier), Izzet Delver, and all the Uro/Kroxa decks in the format I can see running 3-4x Leyline of the Void main-deck

[@konnichi1wa]

nah, with Jace and drown in the loch as two of the best cards in the deck, leyline would hurt more than help

[@MrNukealizer]

Leyline of the Void doesn't work against Nexus of Fate unless the opponent makes a mistake. When it would go to the graveyard, there are two replacement effects (exile and shuffle) and if they apply the shuffle one first, it goes back into the library like normal. They would have to either choose to let it be exiled or have Auto Choose Replacement Effects turned on and it make the wrong choice for them.

[@Jake-cm9jj]

Those aren't even the main concern. Breach Storm and Dredge Zombies is pretty popular right now. Going to see a lot of Breach Storm now that there have been a few videos about it and it won a tourney...this deck just turns their combo into turbo drive unless you hit all their Breaches. I love mill, but yeah you need to main deck some sort of graveyard hate to make this deck competitive.

[@jaxdengoodman6406]

Crim: Ima draw so I can find some cards. Me: I believe that is the most efficient way to do that yes.

[@Meddling_Mage]

havent tuned in to Crim's gameplay for a bit. great fun to see him miling and chilling!

[@kylebrochill21]

This seems fun! I was trying to make a rogues/mill deck work when timeless first released but I did not have much luck. May need to try this out instead. Hope you have a great new year!

[@steamrat3593]

Mill, my favorite archetype that will never be competitive again, but atleast someone is trying. Thanks crim.

[@horsebones727]

I’ve been playing Seth’s Nexus deck. Only format I LOVE running into Mill in, having my Uro’s fed and seeing those Nexus’ shuffle back into the deck over and over when they hit the yard 😂

[@ekiM2K]

I run a really old version of the Nexus deck and the wincon is Jace, Wielder of Mysteries... Play it on turn 5 with only 15 cards left in my deck I know opponent was salty 😂

[@horsebones727]

@@ekiM2K very nice! 😂

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Now that this deck has surgical, it gets even better!

[@cloudmane4159]

They need to give us hedron crab in a historic or timeless anthology. Goes in blue dredge, goes in mill. We need pieces that go into multiple niche decks

[@serrahool]

Only a true gamer plays a mill deck and doesn't scoop against a Yorion deck

[@vancekuto]

Nothing makes me click faster than the word mill

[@derrekingledue3138]

I think I prefer 4 counterspell and 2 memory lapse. It's decent for dealing with threats, but counterspell does it better. Memory lapse needs an additional effect to permanently deal with the spell, one that counteracts your game plan. Counterspell just says, "do not pass go"

[@atranimecs]

my Azorius build has Summary Dismissal specifically for rando deck matchups in BO1 for field of the dead/combo/storm golgari build...no one ever see the card coming when they think they have the nut5

[@violet_broregarde]

lol Crim's got the dimir hair

[@Feito-sm3zj]

What can the opponent do differently with Lembas in the last game? It needs to be put to the GY from the battlefield for it to be shuffled back to the library, and with what available on the field I don’t see a way for them to avoid the draw trigger of the Lembas itself, someone enlighten me?

[@cedricberube]

Sac Lembas in response to its ETB. It shuffles Lembas into the library then draws itself basically

[@Feito-sm3zj]

@@cedricberube but then he lose anyway because he failed to kill Crim that turn anyway right? Since even if he sac Lembas to draw it again he’ll lose the “protection” since it’s not in the battlefield anymore.

[@cedricberube]

@@Feito-sm3zj Oh yeah, sorry i thought you asked how he could not die from the draw trigger. But yes, he dies next turn anyway

[@Feito-sm3zj]

@@cedricberube ah, yeah no problem, since Crim said its an “anti-mill” and “they did it incorrectly”, so I’m just wondering what the correct way to make it an “anti-mill” but can’t see it in the battlefield.

[@spencerbell8386]

Sick new hand tattoo 🔥

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

@17:45 - "they have anti-mill"... sure can be uncommon, but... well honestly it is one thing I always take into consideration, in VS System version 1 (2005) we always have the "ko target ressource" or ongoing plot twist in the OP's ressource row to remove the option to see the top card/milling ...

[@nicoletamez518]

I kind of want to see Crim do an Against the Odds episode.

[@Strife72]

“Mom said it’s my turn on the Xbox” … Lmao!

[@crusaderforlife8250]

Every crim deck "WE WON???!!!!??!!?!"

[@sevensaturn]

Built a deck against Lurrus-type decks, has to play against decks with lots of cards that cost more than 4 mana. Typical Arena matchmaking.

[@kaemonbonet4931]

I forgot they didnt have 8 crab. They added yhe fetches and i just kind of assumed

[@fabianquintero1972]

De todos los tiempos de mazos que hay este es uno de mis favoritos 😂😂

[@theopreston8507]

crim out here with yet another banger 🔥🔥🔥

[@a7wingedsheep]

Crim and mill?? YESSSSS

[@michaelcollins4534]

Finally, a deck for me 🎉

[@azullove979]

Legend! Sooo good.

[@maxxlanglois]

Jesus christ, 2nd opponent's deck... Oko, Omnath, prime time, field of the dead, domain, ragavan. The definition of money pile. Zzzzz

[@vigiltgi]

Crim and not drawing lands. Name a better combo lol

[@christiangalvan2943]

Crim for president

[@stupidstutesman2444]

That Lembas kill was amazing. If they played it right, they wouldve been fine but they werent smart enough lmao

[@TsahayluFa]

Am I missing something? It has to go from the battlefield to the graveyard to shuffle. They only had that one last turn to close out the game. They didn't have indefinite protection.

[@tomb5353]

@@TsahayluFa I was trying to figure that out, too... I don't think there was any way for the opponent to win. The opponent had zero cards in their deck, it was their second main phase, and we had only seen Ugin the Spirit Dragon as a way to deal direct damage with Crim at 4 life. Crim could pass the turn and the opponent was guaranteed to lose in their next draw step. Even with two Lembases (Lembae?) in play they couldn't loop Lembas to live forever--their draw step will still get them. (Also, it appears that they only play one Lembas.) Casting Ulamog or Ugin to destroy/exile the crab before combat wouldn't have worked either since Crim could cast two Fatal Pushes to kill both attacking creatures. I think the opponent realized the game was lost was just going out on their own terms.

[@konnichi1wa]

@@tomb5353I thought they lost to the draw a card trigger on lembas

[@umbraloctavia5349]

​@@konnichi1wa They did lose to that trigger but they had no other way to put cards into their deck before their next draw step

[@picassodilly]

@@umbraloctavia5349 They could’ve had one more turn if they popped the lembas in response to the draw trigger.

[@TheGamersGrimoire]

In the last game, only thing you forgot was your revolt triggers. The battle leaves your side when they kill it, so your fatal pushes were live against those guys.

[@joek3654]

not true, they still are the controller of the battle, even though crim was selected as defender

[@ernestosalinas1091]

They were not since he doesn't control de battles, it's just that fatal push can target things that it cannot destroy

[@alexanderficken9354]

not true

[@TheGamersGrimoire]

@@joek3654 I see the protector clause is not the same as controller.

[@sladjanavukas5420]

Sad blue spells... pay 3 to exil 10 cards 2 oppo just left gamea by mistakes.

[@kylethomas9240]

malcolms mecurial mirith is banned in standard

[@AtrociousNightmare]

💙🖤

[@jamesrule1338]

Nice mill deck. It reminds me why I hate mill decks.

[@alchemy3830]

No it isn't, but thanks for the fun video.

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

MILL... when i see this with a TCG competitive card game, I think of looking at the top card, and moving it to another place with effects, and repeating, untappoing characters and keeping on in the same turn... Am i correct? my Marvel Defenders deck or Injustice Gang decks with almost infinite draws, searchers, and board control / "opponent's hand" control.

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

AKA : the game is a windmill, milling out cards. My opponent is the lever, i am the hold that churns the cards out.

[@MistaHoward]

Mill in a TCG means putting cards from the top of the deck into the graveyard. It's named after an MTG card called Millstone that did this. "Mill decks" are usually decks that try to exhaust their opponent's deck of cards and win by emptying their library.

[@GoliathGTX]

In MTG, a lot of archetypes earn their name from the first card that does a specific effect. Mill get its name from Millstone (which you can search it up on google to see its effect) and the objective of a mill deck is to "deck out" the opponent by putting his cards from library into graveyard (usually) with spells. The opponent loses if he cannot draw a card (due to empty library) in the draw step. Some other games like HS uses "mill" for the archetype with the same gameplan as well, it's a commonly used term nowaday. The controls you described in MTG terms are like this: infinite draw = if your plan is to infinite draw into some sort of combo to finish the game, that's a COMBO deck in MTG. Searchers = The term is TUTOR for MTG, named after Demonic Tutor. Tutor cards let you search your library for specific cards you'd choose. Board control = That's just a generic CONTROL deck. Opponent's hand control = In MTG, the archetype or approach is known as HAND DESTRUCTION.

[@Jace9IX]

dimir timeless mill wow such a fun and interesting interactive archetype :) this deck is so boring

[@Games-il4vl]

Garbo mill deck vs garbo land destruction deck..who will win..don't care.

[@LeedsSTL]

Love watching Mill........lose

[@sladjanavukas5420]

Mill strategy have no good matchup 😒

[@aaronking6033]

Why do ppl still use orb for mill? Its to damned slow and hurts you to. I proved this years ago when i put my mill deck at that time against someone that had the typical mill deck with orb amd i wiped the floor with them.

[@anonymoususer69]

A card being bad in a niche mirror match does not mean it's bad in a niche archetype. You proved nothing

[@krest3r]

That proves nothing 90% of time mill doesn't care about getting milled itself, except for other mill decks and maybe some wierd reanimator builds

[@killpioo2]

It's one colorless mana and it's probably going to mill at least six cards. That's an amazing rate! Considering that we pay two colored mana to mill ten

[@tutudsquishbo8381]

Ya I read about that match 🫠

[@killpioo2]

When asking yourself why someone is running a card think about the floor and the ceiling of a card. The floor of the orb is it eats a removal spell. The ceiling of the card is he Mills half his library.

[@richardbostian2978]

please no mill decks boo. love your content though