The Unfair Advantage of the F-35

[@sbg911]

It still amazes me how many people when trying to dump on the F35 think that 'detecting' it is the same as tracking, locking & creating a targeting solution to it.

[@Flaser01]

Actually, a lot of criticism focuses on the lackluster dogfight capabilities or the idea of the platform serving CAS. Of course, the very concept of BVR was always about eliminating the need for dogfighting, however in practice this usually didn't (quite) bear out. This is the moment when some proponent humm and ahh, or start to quite some bullshit statistics how it 'is' a dogfighter. The honest thing to do would be to instead state the truth: The F-35 is a BVR centric platform and its entire doctrine should avoid dogfighting as it's not the strength of the platform.

[@ImBigFloppa]

​@@Flaser01Except that there is no real evidence it is even a bad dogfighter in the slightest. It has an incredible AOA, and is as maneuverable as an F-16 with even the most basic targeting pods and self defense air to air missiles strapped onto it. The F-16 isn't a slouch in any regard. With a full combat load, the F-35 is more maneuverable than all but a handfull of 4th gen aircraft. The entire "F-35 is a bad dogfighter" stems from a single report from a decade ago of a mock dog fight between an F-16 and an F-35 test bed that was gimped by G-limiting it, limiting its AOA, and removing its ability to use most of its sensors. Ask any F-16, F-15, or A-10 pilot, and they would take the F-35 over those other 3 jets in a dogfight, BVR, and every other scenario 90% of the time. For the close air support role, it is pretty much the best on the market. The single most important aspect of CAS is accuracy. EOTS and the AN/APG-81 give it unparalleled accuracy in mapping out the terrain and detecting targets. Lobbing a dirt cheap JDAM from 5-25km away with pin point accuracy at a man sized target is the best form of CAS. Gun runs are extremely risky, and is a death sentence for any aircraft up against a military that is armed with anything larger than AKs. In that event, the F-35 still has the 25mm autocannon. It also has the stealth capabilities to actually have the chance to perform CAS operations against militaries with air defense weapons in the first place.

[@wizardemrys]

​@@Flaser01while the F-35 is not made to dogfight, it is still very good at it, real f-35 pilots have talked about hoe maneuverable it is

[@moriyokiri3229]

@@wizardemrys F-35 loses dogfights to F-16s you clown

[@goochigoochs3836]

@@wizardemrys I heard that by the time it gets into a dogfight something already went wrong. Short for "you'll be dead before you get the chance to fire back" 😁

[@keyboard_g]

I heard a pilot say detecting the F35 was like trying to hear a pin drop in a room, but once the F15EX is up there with its giant radar blasting, finding the F35 would be like hearing a pin drop at a rock concert.

[@Stinger522]

In other words still impossible.

[@goochigoochs3836]

@@Stinger522 Exactly. They designed the F22 and F35 not to be a lone weapon delivery system but a network of systems working together. This is also the reason why they didn't need the F22 anymore with its excellent dog fighting skill because it will never get into that situation anymore. Thus they are now concentrating on B21. This is coming from one of the F22 engineers that I encountered last year by the way.

[@pixellordm8780]

@@Stinger522it goes from theoretically possible to basically a joke, but yeah it’s basically impossible in practice to detect it in both circumstances.

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

​@@Stinger522Possible, but possible is a rather meaningless baseline. It is possible that a gold brick will fall from the sky and land next to your mailbox tonight.... But you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for that brick.

[@goochigoochs3836]

Good one! 👍@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind

[@wombatillo]

The EW capabilities of the F-35 are probably exceptional in the listening mode. Using the radar for EW jamming is a different story. The Growler can probably push out more wattage in a much wider cone but the F-35 might be able to pinpoint jam a single enemy really well. Who knows. EW systems are super-duper secret but you can estimate things from power generation and cooling capacity and the known features of the antenna arrays.

[@BasedHadrian]

You are correct, the f-35 has like a 2 degree angle for the specific jamming so it needs to be hyper focused and the growler I believe 40 degree angle

[@marcondespaulo]

That is as much a function of gain as is power. Gain is antenna dependent, and is also tied to narrow angles of irradiation. Gain also does not generate as much heat as power. I guess that pinpoint jamming is more aligned to LO warfare, because a single radar not working might be due to equipment malfunction, not necessarily EW.

[@LRRPFco52]

As soon as the USMC saw what their early Block F-35B & C models were capable of, pilots started treating EA-6B Prowler crews like peers for once, picking their brains, then they retired the EA-6Bs.

[@KUSHxKiNG]

Well i would sure fucking hope so considering the growler was developed for EW and not to be a multi role aircraft. That’s like comparing your microwave to your oven. Two completely different things doing completely different things but can still do the same thing just one is more efficient and effective at cooking food faster🤣🤣. Don’t compare a EW aircraft to a fighter/bomber. You wouldn’t compare the bombing role of a F-35 to a growler would you?? No I don’t think you would because it’s not comparable.

[@Gunni1972]

@@KUSHxKiNG Yes it is. Because both planes have to get into deployment range of the weapons. And if that range is far, the weapons are probably not carried internally.

[@tapanikittela]

Hi from Finland. I am happy that we have chosen F-35 block 4 instead of Gripen.It gives a lot of possibilities at a reasonable price to our AF.

[@zeroinfinity9189]

A pilot who flew the F-35 once said that if you detect a F-35, they most likely already finished their objective or you got less than a minute to maneuver out of range from danger because there probably a missile or a bomb coming towards you.

[@jimkluska253]

@Zero.... Well said!!

[@Germ4ch]

@@jimkluska253 based on Assumptions ...so far US never fought a peer to peer Enemy.

[@jimkluska253]

@@Germ4ch ur right,...in fact they fought multiple peers in two separate world wars. All of them had been building for war at least 6 years prior to the beginning of the U.S. involvement. As you might or might not recall,. our military had the unfortunate result of having their spending slashed to well below 1.25% of the gdp. Yet once we got going....the fascists,commies and whatever name works for you,...got their asses kicked!..🤠

[@jimkluska253]

@@Germ4ch assumption just shows how stupid most people are.

[@craigharrison5406]

The US has no peers in the air. People can argue about ground and sea dominance but the skies belong to Uncle Sam.@@Germ4ch

[@Idahoguy10157]

It isn’t just the F-35 that gets criticisms. The F-16 as originally produced got a lot of crap. The biggest complaint being it was a “lawn dart” that killed it’s pilots. Then there’s crashes of the F-104G being a “widow maker”.

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

In a straight gunfight, I think the F-16 would do a lot better against a F-35 than people think. The fight against an F-22, not so good.

[@WhereNerdyisCool]

If you do some research on the F-104 accident rate, especially digging into what Kelly Johnson wrote about - most of those were German air force guys, new to jets, flying in the worst weather with a very complex variant. Once they started training in Arizona, their accident rate declined enormously.

[@Idahoguy10157]

@@WhereNerdyisCool …. The Canadian CF-104 had a similar accident rate.

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

@@WhereNerdyisCool Megaprojects and DarkSkies cover this well in their videos.

[@pinkyandbrain123]

@@AndyFromBeavertonmegaprojects or anything related to Simon Whistler is more and more sketchy

[@russellk.bonney8534]

Understanding that the F35 can detect passively means that the best way to try to beat them is to have a extremely high power radar to try and see them. They can already see you so you're not giving your position away.

[@pixellordm8780]

Turns out those radars make for a really nice target, however. So its easier said than done. The original F-15 could also shoot down a satellite, let alone the EX, so not even space can save the radar.

[@TheCoolhead27]

That passive targeting is a serious weapon.

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

French and russians never abandonned the concept even if it was limited by technology, only US did and now they are catching up with systems like PIRATE or OSF

[@LRRPFco52]

US made IRST and an extensive data-link network standard for the NORAD Interceptors in the late 1950s-1960s decades before the Soviets. Swedes were the first to copy that approach with their SAAB interceptors. USN put IRST in the F-8 Crusader as well, then the F-4B and J.

[@princesofthepower3690]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@LRRPFco52You haven’t actually refuted the point though. Because after the F-4, the US pretty much abandoned IRST till recently. The Soviets had an IRST at around the same time as the USAF (with the MIG-23) began introducing it in the F-106 in the early-mid 60s (Early Model 106 Interceptors didn’t feature IRST). Most of these IRST weren’t very good or viable hence why in the F-14’s case it was abandoned till much later (F-14D variant).

[@LRRPFco52]

@@princesofthepower3690 F-101B Voodoo, F-102A, and F-106A got IRST along with the SAGE program data-link. MiG-23 didn’t get their weak version of it until the 1970s. MiG-29 and Su-27 IRST are like looking through a soda straw. Navy F-4s had IRST under the nose. F-4E had TISEO in the wing leading edge. F-14A had a certain number of TCSs per squadron while afloat. F-14D had TCS and IRST. You should read up on F-106A pilot experiences with that IRST. It was much better than I imagined, and far better than what you’re describing. F-15 APG-63 was so good out of the gate, they didn’t see a need for it. Wall of Eagles with shared volume and altitude band search was an unfair advantage over anything of its era. F-15C+ with Legion IRST is the first acknowledged fighter to demonstrate passive detection, tracking, and engagement with BVR missiles against a high speed, highly-maneuverable TGT drone as well. The US is so far ahead in this space, but just didn’t talk about it for decades.

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

@@Real_Claudy_FocanWhy do you presume both 1: that passive targeting is limited to IRST only (it isn’t), and 2: that EU systems outperform contemporary American ones? The former is incorrect and the latter is baseless.

[@Recceman901]

Excellent video, I am today an RF Engineer and previously I was just a Glorified Grunt which is scary that I actually understand what you omit from this and what the goobermint omits from the public when talking about this kind of critical technology. People used to ask me if I could see F22's in the sky when flying cause they actually thought stealth aircraft are silent and not visible, I used to be sarcastic to them until I figured out they were being serious. I told them to stop believing what Hollywood puts out. I often tell people that nothing in the Military is quiet...not even subs....but those are the most quiet machines in the Military.

[@sxmNice]

The main value of stealth technology is to reduce the effectiveness of the opponent's weapons in BVR and air defense. In particular in BVR fights it gives the F35 with a definite advantage to achieve air superiority.

[@Triple_J.1]

You miss the entire point of the F-35. It is a wild weasel. It's a stealth F-105 Thud. It's a replacement to the F-16, which had assumed the SEAD mission role in the '90s. It's job is to fly directly into enemy air defense networks, observe and locate their precise position, relay that information to friendlies. And attack those positions with HARM missiles and precision gravity munitions.

[@yomama629]

​@@Triple_J.1all true, but it's also extremely capable in air to air. It has a radar cross section similar to the F-22's but has a more powerful radar, can track IR signatures at very long ranges with DAS and EOTS, and it has a more powerful EW suite. Wouldn't want to be in an adversary fighter against it

[@ArizonaAstraLLC]

@@yomama629 I didn't know that the APG-81 was more capable than the APG-77(V)1. It makes sense considering the maturity between the new design of the APG-81 vs the 77, which was upgraded to the 77(V)1. 15 years later and the F-35 has a replacement, the APG-85 in the works, but it's interesting that they didn't make a V-designated upgrade

[@OlleSundblad]

​@@yomama629did you even watch the video? He explained early that this is impossible to know for a number of reasons, eg cross section depends from which direction you are looking, all 4++ have advanced AW systems, no military shows of its true capabilities in peace time. Watch it again and listen this time!

[@yomama629]

@@OlleSundblad several USAF officials have stated that the F-35 is on par with the F-22 in terms of stealth. As for its EW suite, it's widely considered to be the most powerful ever fitted on a fighter aircraft. There's a reason the F-35 is winning fighter procurement competitions around the world, it does everything better than anything else out there

[@BravoTango3086]

I never knew that John Goodman knows so much about F-35's and fighter aircraft!

[@castarritt]

I have to disagree about stealth being of lesser importance. Even if newer surveillance radars can see the F-35 at reasonable distances, they are also going to see non-LO targets at even further range. More importantly, radar guided antiair missiles use high frequency radars exclusively because of the limited size of the antenna. When you take the already short range of a missile-sized radar, reduce it massively with the F-35's VLO X-band RCS, and then add cooperative ECM and towed decoys on top of that, it will be extremely difficult to hit an F-35 with a radar guided missile, maybe close to impossible with current missiles. Future missile systems might improve PK vs VLO targets somewhat, but that will of course make them even deadlier against non-VLO targets.

[@ViceCoin]

An old Syrian SAM damaged an Israeli F35.

[@boxcutter0]

Plus, unless the advanced scanner sensors can be produced in large enough numbers, they can be targeted & destroyed before stealth capability is neutralized.

[@anxietygamingactual6554]

@@ViceCoin Syria CLAIMS they hit the F-35, after Israel reported a bird strike damaged one of their airframes. If an S-300 had detonated near an F-35 with just how complex and fiddly the aircraft is, it likely would not have made it back.

[@ViceCoin]

@@anxietygamingactual6554 Israel is invincible, and never reports losses, like the Ukrainians.

[@mkyhou1160]

The only people claiming stealth has low relevance, are those who are pushing a prior gen platform. If stealth was so pointless, every fighter in development would not be stealth. It’s not invisibility, but like mentioned, gives a massive see first advantage.

[@amahana6188]

Canada: “we hate the F35, we will never buy such a troubled airplane. We like what we have.” Canadian email sent through back channels: “we’ll take two squadrons of F35’s.”

[@erictaylor5462]

In war, the only people who complain about things not being fair is the side who is at a disadvantage. When the US entered the war the Japanese had an unfair advantage in the Zero. Then the US introduced the Hellcat. The Hellcat had an unfair advantage over the Zero, especially when the Zero pilot believed he was fight a Wildcat.

[@danr1920]

Over time the issues are corrected. Previous fighters have had issues that were fixed. Fighters, cars whatever, problems are fixed and improvements are made.

[@pazitor]

Just in time, in fact. Been missing some Millennium 7.

[@peaches8829]

As someone who works with F35s frequently it is an OUTSTANDING aircraft !!

[@thedownwardmachine]

Tl;dr: groups of F-35s can generate active-radar quality firing solutions with only passive radar, enabling them to kill without being detected.

[@myhometechguy]

The biggest misconception of stealth is that if it doesn't render you invisible then it's useless. Stealth is not invisible, it is low observable. An aircraft that is lower observable than another will always hold an advantage. His detection range will be much shorter. Getting a weapons grade track will be harder. The small radars of guided missiles will have more difficulty tracking. Also countermeasures are much more effective against the reduced reflections of stealth. This is why every country with the means is seeking stealth aircraft. It is and will remain an advantage no matter how good systems get at detecting it. It's the difference between a soldier wearing camouflage versus an orange jumpsuit.

[@yomama629]

Exactly, even if radars get better at detecting stealth aircraft that only means that non-stealth aircraft will be even more vulnerable. Stealth technology isn't going anywhere

[@tomschmidt381]

As a military avionics tech back in the late 1960's the advancement in avionic capability is fascinating. I agree with your comment at the end of the video the ability of multiple aircraft to share target information acquired passively is a huge advantage.

[@keyscook]

I appreciate your knowledge and also that you are mature enough to admit when there are unknown features / details. Thanks and Cheers from Seattle!

[@factChecker01]

Thanks! This is very informative and an excellent summary of the F-35 advantages.

[@EnginAtik]

Data communications are always an attack surface. They may not be directed at the target during passive tracking but the enemy can have other sensors including satellite based ones to triangulate location and the kinematics of the signal sources. A robust communications signal will withstand jamming efforts but it will also make its detection easier. The purpose of communications is to be heard in the first place which is detection.

[@LostCylon]

Stealth aircraft can also be onsite detectors, visually confirming, locating radar signals from sites/bases, etc. and conveying this information to a 2nd strike force or simply already launched guided missiles preprogrammed to hit various locations. Knowing a SAM site, mobile radar detector or such has moved 1 kilometre away from a prior position allows the F-35 to pass this information along and have the sites targetted by incomming missiles or attacks reajusted to the new locations.

[@pierredelecto7069]

Absolutely packed with information today. Great video! Btw you look dapper and healthy today! Glad you are doing well 😊

[@ghostmourn]

You’re one of my favorite KZbin channels. Thank you 🙏 for all your hard work, I appreciate you.

[@kathrynck]

AN/APG-81, ELINT systems, & Link16/MADL is very central to the F-35's advantages, true. Need a part II exploring EOTS, HMDS, & HOBS targeting, if you _really_ want to get into how the F-35 uses haxxorz to be unfair to adversarial platforms. Could even be a part III going into "stuff"... but it would probably be frowned upon by DoD, and I'm not sure how applicable it would be to export variations. It'd be a devastatingly effective platform, even if you painted it bright orange and covered it in luneberg lenses & road flares. The fact that it has a very small RCS and _reasonably_ minimalistic IR emissions, is just icing, and makes things completely unfair. PS: The main reason rear-aspect stealth is problematic is 2-fold. The obvious first reason is that a view looking up the tailpipe of a turbojet is going to be unavoidably obvious on IR. But also the RCS suffers, because the turbine at the rear of a jet engine has "needfully specific geometry", spins, and very limited materials options due to heat. So basically inside the exhaust nozzle of a jet is a high-RCS churning reflector. Further, the channel aft of the turbine can't really accept RAM coatings, again due to heat. So stealth-wise, it's a mess. (ergo the really important exhaust design details of the YF-23, B-2, and B-21). A material from U of NC could help change that in the future though. As well as offer a more durable coating for other areas of an aircraft. And frankly, their announcing it publicly was a massive abuse of DARPA research grant NDA's, and I'm surprised nobody went to jail. The thing about "stealth detection" is that it has limited range. And a non-stealthy aircraft, viewed from a "stealth detecting radar" could be seen at hundreds of km away, rather than dozens of km away. So "stealth detection" does little to actually make stealth obsolete. On the contrary, it actually makes stealth more direly needed. But IRST systems do put something of a clamp on how much minimizing of detection distance is possible.

[@larry4fire]

Launch on remote, the holy grail. To accomplish this you need remote platforms with passive and low emission sensors, common geo accuracy in the centimeter range, a lot of computing power, and a highly capable, low probability of intercept data link. All connected to a network of advanced command and control systems that can use real and non real time data from many sources to further identify a track. Then use automated decision aids to verify rules of engagement and assign the target to a firing platform. There also needs to be a protocol to hand off the missile from the launching platform to the platform holding the remote track for terminal guidance. To accomplish all of this is a big deal. So having missiles with long range is pretty useless without refined terminal guidance. Launch platforms could be ship or land based, and maybe something like the F-15EX, or even a lot simpler “missile truck” like a cargo plane equipped with Link-16 and lots of missiles.

[@rob6052]

Here's my basic understanding of the Russian and Chinese RF radar developments. These LF radars "detect" the presence of stealth aircraft, not the aircraft itself. These radars require a lot of intersecting support (other radars in chain, in two vectors) in order to be effective. Because it is a "tripwire' system, a response relies on then filling the "target" air space with radar homing missiles, hoping that one will lock-on to a target. That's a lot of radars and missiles, making a lot of targets for ARM's. Geography plays a huge role in the theoretical effectiveness of such a network as well. I believe that until quantum radars can be developed to the point of useful application, stealth will remain a critical capability in combination with other advanced sensor and computing capabilities.

[@georgethompson913]

It would require very God cooperation and management. 1huch Russia hasn't really demonstrated with its top down structure.

[@accountantthe3394]

Aren't you describing sensor fusion capabilities that F35s AN/SPY radars possess as well?

[@rob6052]

@@accountantthe3394 It is "fused" data in that you're plotting a box rather than an object. Believing that you've plotted the path through successive boxes, you push radar equipped missiles into the anticipated next box, where you hope to pick up an accurate track. If that missile can send data back to the plotting computer, you'll have a weapons grade track for as long as that missile tracks or detonates. All of those radars lighting up are red meat for ARM's. Meaning, that it should be a rapidly degradable defense. Effective in the very short term and more effective where density and geography permit, but rapidly degradable by multiple platforms nonetheless. At least that's my understanding.

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

What you are describing is just multistatic radars, which have been around a long time. Actually Ukraine was a pioneer in this research 20 years ago with its Kolchuga passive sensor. The thing is we have come a long way since then with related technology that helps a lot, such as networking and computing capability which has enabled things which were impractical or impossible before such as data centric machine learning. Now China and Russia have their own stealth aircraft which helps out A LOT in testing and generating data to train these systems. And no, such networks wouldn't be vulnerable to ARMs (at least not critically), because that's not the way multistatic radars work. You separate the receiver from the transmitter. So you can make lots of "dumb" transmitters on the cheap, because this type of system doesn't depend on structuring the transmission. You'll run out of HARMs WAYYYYY before they run out of transmitters, LOL

[@naimhdden4339]

It is theoretically possible that a multi-static network of LF radars can craft a firing solution through sensor fusion. Just as he explains at 23:00 that a squadron of F-35s can craft firing solutions by the intersection of TDOA curves, a network of LF radars can process their solutions to craft a more accurate bound. The trouble here is that while TDOA curves lose dimensions with each new solution (e.g. 1 sensor knows a target is on the boundary of a sphere, 2 sensors restrict that to a planar intersection of 2 spheres, 3 sensors to a linear intersection of 3 spheres, 4 sensors to a singular point in space), radars produce a region of uncertainty. With more radars you get the intersections of those regions of uncertainty, but that will always be a bounded volume rather than narrowing down to a point in space. At the end of the day it's all very interesting stuff and we don't know what each side is employing or how well it really works.

[@Inkling777]

It'd be interesting to know if the intensity of fighting in Ukraine has forced the Russians to run their systems in full war mode, giving up secrecy before a possible conflict with NATO. That'd illustrate one of the ways NATO is benefiting from this war. We get to see how they fight. They're only seeing how Ukraine fights with Western hardware, some of it twenty or more years old.

[@georgethompson913]

I mean Russia has already had to roll out T-55s to keep up with losses. At some point we might see an Armata eat a javelin.

[@brett76544]

@@georgethompson913 T-34's

[@alispeed5095]

Wouldnt the same be said for systems like the patriot? Afaik its still used by Nato and is currently being employed and no doubt in "full war mode" 100% of time in Ukraine given russia's tendency to spam missiles at kiev or any random place they choose. In the end, l think both sides are learning

[@nightraver56]

​@@alispeed5095 Russians are learning at best about older Patriot systems donated by Holland & EU Nato nations. There were some tracking software updates made including the one successfully shooting down Khinzhal hypersonic missiles but Ukraine was donated older Patriots & I believe the F-16 being donated are Block 30? Maybe as "advanced" as Block 40 but that is exposing to Russia nowhere near the capability of F-16 Block 70 With HIMARS Russia has had decent success learning to disrupt the guided Rocket artillery, fewer now get to target, but virtually no change learning to target HIMARS trucks, zero HIMARS trucks have been destroyed by Russia. What is probably the moat significant about the SIGINT that NATO gets from Russian EW & GBAD is that minimum 60% of what China fields is either Russian or copies of Russian EW & GBAD. Russia knows which systems & modules it has used & given SIGINT to NATO, & a good idea of what systems Ukraine captured & are used by NATO to test real-world combined-arms countermeasures, but China does not know exactly which of its systems are now likely ineffective from SIGINT & which are outright compromised, because Russia has no interest in telling China. China's "weather balloon" fiasco, whatever intelligence China could have gotten from that balloon is dwarfed by USA getting this entire EW surveillance package largely intact, including full list of the several critical non-Chinese component suppliers they used. Not just surveillance data, but metrology, diagnostics, supply chain on the weather balloon is about functionally worthless now.

[@cameroncarley7958]

@@alispeed5095most definitely, I think his point was Russia is using much more of its modern (last 15 years or so) equipment proportional to the modern NATO equipment

[@Overneed-Belkan-Witch]

F35 has the remote code activation installed in the export unit. It is to prevent the aircraft to fall into wrong hands where circumstances such as pilot defecting or the craft were smuggled to the enemy territory.

[@eng3d]

"F35 has the remote code activation " That is scary as hell. It says it doesn't trust the pilot and could kill it or use him in a kamikaze mission. Also, it tied the countries that use it to be totally loyal to the US or face the consequences.

[@vkham9944]

No. You became slave. 😋

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

You reckon that's only in export units? The US 'Lost' an F35 for a couple of days a couple of months ago.

[@datboi8921]

That’s not necessarily true dawg

[@mharley3791]

@@tsubadaikhan6332mostly because it was to stealthy foe the US to track in the US😅

[@ricktasker8248]

Wow! Thanks for clearly describing all those amazing features of the F-35's.

[@knowledgeiswealth.]

F-35 conquered my heart sorry f-22 babe you are old😢

[@Batmensch]

Well done! Good sound quality and it’s very quick, not too many digressions! Also the information density is great!

[@kwatt-engineer796]

One has to wonder if the F35 could "spoof" it's real location by re radiating an incoming radar pulse with a delay, perhaps with staggered delay times to confuse the actual range even more.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

This is a standard ECM technique in use since the '60s. Random frequency hopping makes it of little use now.

[@justforever96]

They have been doing that since the 1950s. It's one of the most basic ECM techniques. That's why modern radars are designed to not be fooled by stuff like that, by jumping frequencies very rapidly and random. Radio travels at light speed, and it's impossible for a ECM system to shift instantly to match it. They also code each pulse so the radar knows which one sold be returning. What good does delaying the pulse do if the radar has already jumped frequency by the time the delayed pulse is transmitted, it will know that it's a false signal and ignore it. But as far as it is possible, it's a normal ECM technique so yes, it will have the ability.

[@kathrynck]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Well, a good ECM can keep up with frequency hopping (usually). But rapidly alternating active & home-on-jam modes make basic ECM more problematic. It's still doable, and is done. The ECCCCCCCC.... M chess game runs quite deep 😉 And in some ways, kinda sticks it's toe across the line into DEW territory.

[@douginorlando6260]

There is no way for an aircraft to know if they are in the angular center of a radar lobe or 20 db lower power by being on the angular edge of the transmitted lobe or in a low amplitude side lobe. If the aircraft responds with delayed artificial echos, then the amplitude of those artificial echos will give away which part of the lobe they must have received. Multiple radar chirps at slightly different but overlapping directions will allow confirmation of the aircraft’s direction by comparing amplitudes … even if the radar chirp has different frequencies for different angular directions within each lobe. The ecm delayed reflections could be used to help locate the aircraft.

[@kathrynck]

@@douginorlando6260 all very true. Although if there's multiple friendly aircraft in the area, you can figure out some of what you need to know to spoof a return better. And ideally, if you don't have a huge RCS and aren't in immanent fear of detection, you can wait to start jamming to build a better picture of what you're dealing with. Also, a beam width of only about 2-3 degrees can allow for uh... 'undesirable effects' at longer ranges than is typically an issue for radar emissions. An EA-6 once did a relatively huge amount of property damage by turning the wrong way with the wrong systems turned on.

[@kummer45]

Common sense say that all information of these weapons will not be available leaving room for conjectures. Common sense says too that operability should not be disclosed to the public for obvious reasons. The US military must always keep secret not only the information of the craft but how this craft works in combination with other equipments. This video gives the right mindset on how the military mind works without giving secrets away. The military works strictly with facts, discipline and secrecy. The F-35 is an example of such discipline efficiency and resilience. Great content for the layman, tyvm.

[@grider421]

Well when your government been bribed or blackmailed it makes getting information pretty easy.

[@ajaykumarsingh702]

Secrecy? 😂😂😂 Lol ! Ever heard the name : CHINA ?

[@davidking4686]

F35s advantage is that it doesn't need to reveal itself to kill you. It can get close enough to provide a firing solution to an F22 with over-the-horizon launch capabilities. The F35 guides the F22's missile in and you never saw either of them

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Happy Holidays Sir. Thank you for another wonderful video. I believe the F-35 is what we paid for, a top notch platform.

[@lomotil3370]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:40 🛩️ *Stealth is a key advantage of the F-35, allowing delayed detection and closer approach to the target, aligning with NATO's emphasis on acquiring air dominance by penetrating contested airspace.* 05:14 🕵️ *F-35's intelligence gathering capabilities are extensive, with electronic sensors and data fusion, but specific details about channels, sensitivity, and processing capacity remain classified.* 06:35 🧠 *Electronic data gathered by F-35, including information on potential opponents' electronic emissions, plays a vital role in planning, adding clarity to the overall intelligence picture.* 16:01 🌐 *F-35's role in network-centric warfare involves producing high-quality data, sharing it through data links, and acting as a force multiplier by enhancing situational awareness for other aircraft, including older generations.* 23:01 🔒 *F-35's ability to passively target with high-quality tracks and triangulate data among multiple aircraft allows it to generate a firing solution without emitting detectable radiation, providing a significant tactical advantage in modern warfare.* Made with HARPA AI

[@michaelguerin56]

Thank you for another superb video. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.

[@wilsonsantiago3095]

How m7 isn’t over 1 million subs is beyond me love your work

[@ajr993]

Data link is where the F35 really shines. It can operate as a stealth AWACS Platform and command and control node. Plus its fully capable to take out fightes, bombers, or ground targets on a whim. But what its super useful is to get in close, while a bomber launches hundreds of cruise missiles from standoff range. The F35 then guides in the cruise missiles, decoys, and employs electornic warfare to cause haywire. The decoys, cruise missiles, and EW result in a situation where enemy radars will see a whole armada of planes, environmental noise, missiles, etc coming at them at supersonic speeds. If they SAM systems are the latest gen, they might be able to shoot down 25%-50% of the cruise missile swam, but after that its game over. Then the F35 can collect all the EW information during the attack--locations of SAMs, radars, locations of aircraft, locations of ground assets, etc, etc, as well as how effective the last strike was. Then another strike can be launched on the remaining targets now that primary defensive threats were eliminated. Its a supremely potent aircraft, and it's also pretty cheap all things considered. Cheaper than the F15 was when it was first released by a huge margin when you adjust for inflation. On top of that, F35 can work as an air defender very well. A patriot missile could be fired, guided by the F35 to strike an enemy fighter jet. So even if an enemy aircraft detects the F35, who knows whether a passively radar guided/IR hybrid missile is going to hit you from the sides or behind. What's funny is no one took the patriot missile system seriously until Ukraine happened and patriots are shooting Russian jets and hypersonic missiles out of the sky as if they were a joke. No one realized that the patriot is actually supremely good, and its a similar situation with the F35. People don't realize how deadly it is until it sees action. My guess is that Chinese aircraft would just start falling out of the sky, confused and panicked, as F35s take them out easily.

[@col.g.7698]

I owe you an apology !!You said something once on another video, which I found extremely disturbing. I responded in an immature way and called you a terrible word because of your national background. My behavior was inexcusable! I could apologize all day long for calling you this word, but it wouldn’t make up for the excellent content you put into your work, and the fact you did not deserve to be called this word! I wish Germany had more people like you, as it would benefit the NATO alliance! I apologize for using the German N-word on you! You obviously are a man of high intelligence, and outstanding moral character and mental capabilities ! More than I can say for myself since I very inappropriately called you the German N-word-NAZI. I hope you will accept my sincere apologies, and my gratitude to you for the work you do! Thank you from a friend in America and I will subscribe to your channel just as soon as I have saved up enough. I used to be a U.S. Army anesthesiologist. However, now I am 100% disabled veteran. Will leave it at that. Your content is outstanding, and in fact, you are one of the two channels, the other being British where I get my news from about the war in Ukraine because American news cannot be trusted to provide actual facts ! You do an amazing job at everything you present regardless of the topic you are covering, you present the facts only. When it comes to making gueses, you’re educated gueses are like those of Spock on Star Trek. They are better than most peoples calculated work! Another extremely well done video! It never ceases to amaze me how well you do your videos! If something, I’ve said is hard to understand. I apologize I have not proofread my message. I have a hard time typing and right now I’m having a hard time speaking as well. Thank you I hope you will accept my sincere apology! again, another amazing excellent job the reason why I listen to you on Ukraine as well as the daily telegraph‘s Ukraine the latest. I consider U2 to be the highest quality sources for facts without any emotion injected into your presentation! This is very refreshing for an American, where we ceased having news the day Walter Cronkite signed off the air, which I watched as a child. I, however, Walter Cronkite was not nearly as educated in the engineering sciences as you are. Thank you again, sir, a sincere supporter, who I hope she will accept his sincere apology for a comment, which was far behind unacceptably route, and there is no need for me to speak to you the way I did that day!

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

Where is he from? 🤔

[@Taketimeout3]

Unfair advantage? That is what you have over most, nay almost all, other youtubers. Your presentation, your eloquence, your insight and your humour. Actually thats four. Oh, nearly forgot Otis! Keep up doing what you do. 😊

[@miketan4803]

Imo stealth has at least two dimensions which needs to be discussed 1) hard to detect 2) hard to acquire as s400 target

[@stefanaleksic4113]

Su 27 is the first plane with passive targeting.

[@aregranhaug8617]

Outstanding content as always.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Thank you so much!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Thank you very much!

[@adrien5834]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Just wanted to point out that if you find F35 critics "noisy", it's only as a reaction to obnoxious F35 fanbois. These people are insufferable. Right, carry on.

[@Red-238]

@@adrien5834coming from a f-35 hater I presume?.

[@adrien5834]

@@Red-238 Nah. Not as long as people don't get in my face about it. There's nothing more annoying than 12 year olds copy pasting LockMart's marketing brochures and trying to pass them off as facts.

[@N0rdman]

Excuse me, but when you say Network-centric warfare was pioneered by US Department of Defence in the 1990s, the Swedish armed forces already had integrated almost all air, sea, and land forces in their STRIL 80 and other systems joining in later in the 1980s. I could sit in the CIC of our corvettes and get all data from land radar, helicopter radar, combat aircraft 37 radar (SAAB 37 Viggen), or other sources like ship radar via datalink and entirely passively, without using our own radar suite, track an incoming surface or air raid and plot them and decide when and where exactly to strike with not only my own shipboard arsenal but coordinate a joint strike with ALL units participating in fending off an attack, thus saturate the air defenses of the hostile units approaching the Swedish coast.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

True, but as a concept with that name it was popularised in the US

[@naimhdden4339]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech as always the US is leading the way in acronym warfare

[@Triple_J.1]

Sweden always punches above their weight. The US military branches were feuding in that era. And it makes sense that they failed to keep pace with a free and technologically advanced country with a tighter knit society who had a singular goal: defending against imminent invasion by a perceived superior foe.

[@N0rdman]

@@verdebusterAP whatever it was called, I could get Radar from the Navy's HKP4 and other ships as well as exchange data with the "heavy attack" or the nickname they used to have "ÖB's hammer" (although it started to look like a wall paper mallet with the new AA defence on the Sovremenny, Krivak and other newer Russian warships). We were all connected via data link.

[@N0rdman]

@@verdebusterAP yes, sure, but I just talked of my experience in the Navy. We used to go totally silent and just rely on external data link feed from another ship lying behind an island or a helicopter going intermittently up to do a couple of sweeps and then hit the deck again. Enough for us to plot our RB15 missiles.

[@pju28]

… and I appreciate your information and effort you did for this video!

[@justforever96]

You are looking good these days

[@triaged]

Thank you for putting this interesting information together.

[@ewc58]

Thanks for another interesting piece, here’s wishing you a healthy & prosperous 2024 👍👊

[@MrCriistiano]

16:57 Brazil mentioned boyssss here we go

[@GM-fh5jp]

Interesting episode, hope you have a fine 2024. Thanks for posting!

[@gsc512]

More than likely it's networked into a system so it feeds back the information at a very high rate so the aircraft doesn't have to rely on the computing power itself. It just gets the information to the computers and the people that can and then they feed it back to the computer which is part of the western way of doing war which is lessening the workload of the individual soldiers and or the pilots so you don't have stupid mistakes. The other thing about the f-35 program is I believe that was really pushed and marketed like it was because they needed money in order to get that stealth technology. The hard panels developed for say the b21 raider which is what the Americans really wanted but they needed somebody else to offset the bill. And it's funny that a channel like yours would know that the main thing in a conflict as far as Western doctrine goes is to establish air dominance but that is the one thing that they would not give Ukraine.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

I know, it is a long story...

[@pierredelecto7069]

I think we invested way too much into air superiority technology to waste that advantage for this war. Once it's used it gives the enemy the chance to figure it out while it's being used, or even worse, they can collect crash debris. They are saving any potential advantage for a conflict with China or Russia.

[@gsc512]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech well, even the ukrainians failed to understand that under NATO doctrine, you don't put in ground forces until you've established air dominance yet they still sent in their ground forces believing we were friends. It cost him the whole freaking army five times over Like a lot of these guys on here though. They fight for the f-35 or the f22 but they've never read NATO military doctorine, They never understood the philosophy, the philosophies of war governing each nation or the unity of nations under conflict or understood the sovereignty of the Russian or Chinese war plan. They just simply think that one piece of equipment against another is just as effective, but like pharaoh... But like Pharaoh utilization of the equipment is actually what matters. What does the war doctrine say? Is it supposed to be a loitering bird that carries like hypersonic weapons to defend the homeland like say tu-160 or is it supposed to go in country like the b1b and they believe because they look the same they have the same philosophy of operations and it couldn't be further from the truth

[@dosunmupelumi7845]

Air dominance is what CANNOT be given to Ukraine without WW 3 breaking out, after all Ukraine is just a proxy.

[@msimon6808]

@@gsc512 " well, even the ukrainians failed to understand that under NATO doctrine, you don't put in ground forces until you've established air dominance" Did they have a choice?

[@JMiskovsky]

Biggest Sucess of F-35 is B-21. DoD improved project managment so much. Also sensor fusion is great. The thread profile is shared probaly via ALIS and processed inside War Cloud done by Microsoft Azure. Which is cool.

[@davejob630]

Quality analysis, as always. Thankyou.

[@michaelhall9339]

This is a very informative reference quality video; unfortunately my attention was compromised, as I was listening while getting ready for work. I will definitely revisit this to further my understanding of electronic warfare.

[@weaselhead6771]

I feel dumb just listening, but still informative and entertaining..... Love IT!

[@naimhdden4339]

It's funny how "cooperative targeting" means something entirely different in civil aviation vs military. In civil, cooperative targeting means cooperating with the target, not other sensors. These are techniques based on transmissions which require interrogating the plane transponder to provide information back to the interrogator (as in ADS-B and MLAT 1090/1030MHz). Any radar techniques are "non-cooperative" because you can gather information without asking the plane to do something. By the way, the slide at 23:15 is not triangulation, it is multilateration (MLAT). If the radars are are using their relative positions and the angular value to the target, that is triangulation. Using time difference of arrival and constructing a solution from 4 isochronous curves is multilateration. Which means the military version of MLAT (a cooperative technique in civil aviation) is actually non-cooperative. Multi-static radars are a similar concept but on the ground rather than in the air.

[@556MSL]

Thanks so much! Happy new year. Excellent presentation

[@stretch3281]

Thank you for all informative vids in the past 12 months. Wishing you and Otis health and happiness in the coming year! 😀🥳

[@markendicott6874]

Excellent episode - taking the "hype", the "misinformation" and the deliberate efforts to talk-down, what's known is give actual pilots a choice of what they would go to War in, it's a four-ship of F35 everytime.

[@philliplee1193]

A pilot said that the f 35 “flies like a piano”. Crocodile Rock, anyone? It has a serious playlist, a reactive series of countermeasures, a hive mindset, scores pre-placed to create hits at the top of the charts, a supergroup that seems to always be working on the much anticipated platinum record release. .someday

[@jimbaughman4005]

I have always enjoyed your knowledgable explainations.

[@Triggernlfrl]

Look at things as they are not as we want is a priceless niche.

[@swisstestpilot]

I look forward to seeing more videos from you next year. Happy new year to you & Otis.

[@REktSigMa]

F-35 is a 6th gen platform. Ok the aircraft has the ability to create a virtual map, ok Data links, if the ground vehicles have data links, and the aircraft it can create a virtual map in the pilot's helmet, it does not matter who gets into this circle if the enemy is in this circle, they can be targeted by anyone who is linked to this circle. So, any enemy can be shot down by any number of these vehicles. does not matter where you are you can be shot by any of these forces connected.

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

You really think it can be considered a 6th Gen Platform?

[@REktSigMa]

@@SpartanLeonidas1821 With this Block 4 upgrade, sure. Like the data links connecting to all ground forces along with air forces that jet master computer will generate a virtual battlespace that will make dogfighting obsolete, make all enemies at 6 o'clock targeted and shot down, like anyone in any of these vehicles linked can engage and track any enemy within this circle, like a tank could shot down a jet or a soldier holding a shoulder rocket can engage any target like that technology in the right hands is unstoppable I think.

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@@REktSigMa So that is the main feature/characteristic for something to be considered 6th Gen? It sure does sound like it from all that you described. That sounds absolutely insane. Technology is truly changing the modern battlefield at an unprecedented pace.

[@iamscoutstfu]

Hair is on point today, looking good my man. thanks for the video.

[@frederickastorgav7991]

In my point of view, summarising, the earth is round (curvature) and until now, as far as I know, all information data is linearly transmitted in all the networks explained by you ,thank you, therefore there is a need for many assets so to fill in the gap to transmit this coded information.

[@RUNDMC-555]

love to know weaknesses to this network sharing warfare and reliance on it

[@darkbrother8516]

The F35 is a flying supercomputer. What a supercomputer gives you is the ability to avoid crashing the plane if the pilot becomes incapacitated during mid flight. A flying supercomputer with Artificial Intelligent can even land the plane back home safely if the pilot is not able to fly the plane. There are too many advantage that a flying supercomputer provides to list here. Do your research and you will agree.

[@X00000370]

Excellent analysis!

[@I25M]

Passive tracking actually blew my mind

[@Gunni1972]

It will blow some heads, if that means, the Airplane has to point it's nose into the direction, the Target is... As it means getting closer and closer to detection range.

[@GSteel-rh9iu]

This was a fantastic presentation. Thank you!

[@nitroxide17]

Very good and accurate technical content in this video!

[@sigma_six]

Great presentation, like the new graphical elements... way to integrate a ton of information yourself Millennium 7, and btw, great to see that you are looking good sir!

[@MisterDivineAdVenture]

So good, I literally can't absorb it all. So I'm filing it!

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

As always a fantastic video. Also glad to see you looking healthier.

[@user-rd5nc1nb9f]

oouuuuuh new haircut, who is this distinguished and elegant italian gentleman

[@gerrya4818]

I have a friend in a European air force that was involved in his countries evaluation of the f35 to decide if they buy it. He wont tell me details, other than what you see publicly available is only about 10% of its capabilities and that there are very good reasons every country is jumping to buy it reasons that arnt known to the public. Apparently whats not public is more of a reason to want it. what even is public so far is very understated also. so many of its capabilities and extent of them will never be made public. He didn't tell me which capability,but one that is still secret is what heavily convinced his small country to buy the jet in the end over the competitors. i heard a rumor that its maneuverability is heavily limited by software in peacetime also to protect the airframe hours, so i wartime it would actually be able to dogfight with the best. Also in wartime it can use stealth pods to store more missiles and fuel tanks under the wings,a lot of them,without compromising stealth. And new missiles are on the way within a year or 2, smaller missiles with same range as aim120d, so more can be carried and longer range missiles coming soon also, not just aim260. New anti radiation missiles also.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

While there is surely plenty of capabilities which are not in the public domain, I don't think that there is something radically new and unexpected. The leap in capabilities as we know it, it is surely enough for the "small nations", who have no other choice than become a US dependency, to jump on it. About the new payload and the new weapons...there is always this legend that the US has super weapons but they are secret. Surely the existence of some niche systems is not in the public domain, but I don't think that the US could keep a large scale development secret, considering the way their processes work and the number of independent eyes pointed at them. Russia and China, on the other end...

[@johnroberts9922]

A flying computer: The F-35 has a a four processor TR-3 architecture, capable of 70+billion RISC operations per second (FLOPS approximately). 25 years ago that was a state of the art supercomputer.

[@johnrusac6894]

The period following the consumption of several beers: “Piss time.” I greatly enjoy your presentations for your thoroughness and insights. While your English is excellent & easily understood, I find some pronunciations amusing & very entertaining. No criticism intended. BTW, I was just thrown out of a Starbucks, after a customer complaint. Seems management was told about your enthusiastic commentary on the “Ass 400” system, and they assumed I was watching a review on sex toys… Keep up the great work!

[@johnmckinney9229]

Your contanT is awesome, keepm coming

[@sd989989]

question: can the F-35 interpret the radar returns generated by an AWACS, i.e. beyond the range of the AWACS

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

I don't think so

[@sd989989]

why not? would that not be very useful? @@Millennium7HistoryTech

[@patolt1628]

Your videos are technically amazing! They just show that you know what you are talking about. I can't figure out what is your background ... I hesitate between engineer in tha aerospace industry or high level teacher in physics

[@The_ZeroLine]

SandBoxx and RUSI’s Justin Bronk have published a lot more detailed info on the F35’s ISR capabilities. A lot of the F35’s strength is its ability to make all the information it’s gathering and the target + threat environment more useable.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Do you have any link? I am genuinely interested.

[@The_ZeroLine]

BTW, Bronk, Carroll and Hollings are all top shelf (two are pilots or RIOs and one a former Marine all with deep connections and personal experiences with US military aviation). But as mentioned above, Bronk is considered by many a top expert globally. You don’t need to necessarily look at articles just about the F-35 to get a better idea of its ISR, EW, etc., etc. capabilities. He talks about those topics on a stand alone and then refers to current ops doctrine. So, don’t stunt your research by only looking at items with F-35 in the title.

[@gerhardbenade5869]

@@The_ZeroLine Yes, Ward Carroll is I think an ex F14 Tomcat aviator. Top shelf. He made an excellent KZbin video in 2022 extolling the virtues of the "Ghost of Kiev" who he said had shot down five Russian planes in a day!

[@The_ZeroLine]

@@gerhardbenade5869 Oh, so you’re going to blame him for simply telling the story of what the AFU claimed? And, for the record, he even qualified that video by saying “if this is true” and then later posted a video noting that the Ghost of Kiev didn’t exist. One can simply look at this videos and see he knows about 100x more than 95% of the mil-av channel creators.

[@The_ZeroLine]

@@gerhardbenade5869 PS: I was not saying Carroll is himself a top shelf analyst, but that his connections get him many guests who ARE top shelf in terms of having unique access and insights into the topics discussed here.

[@artistphilb]

I wonder if air defence systems can work as an array sharing data and triangulating targets from emissions like electronic jamming?

[@marsmotion]

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[@alexnderrrthewoke4479]

Yes it does. Russia has proven rhat

[@WDLC1911]

@@marsmotionthank you for the heads up.

[@Orbital_Inclination]

Data links and triangulation are key parts of an Integrated Air Defence System (IADS). Without it, they're not really integrated

[@LRRPFco52]

The problem for land-based IADS sensors is the curvature of the Earth. You don't have LoS over the horizon, so you see more Russian and Chinese antennae being lifted up to slightly increase the LoS range, which makes them more cumbersome and vulnerable for targeting. If they try to use localized AWACS and comms node aircraft to deal with the earth's curvature, those aircraft are extremely vulnerable. The US moved away from AWACS-based nodal connectivity with ATF and JSF by using an airborne and spaceborne mesh approach. Every JSF is a node, as are all combat aircraft with sensors and data-links. Since we're going to a VLO airframe force structure, it makes the problems that much more unsolvable for the targeted force.

[@phelansa23]

Another excellent video. Lots of useful information. Thank you. My opinion, the Americans are the biggest limitation to other countries operating the F35. What they will share, and what they wont share will limit the weapons systems efficiency. This is one reason I believe the Rafael is so successful in its sales.

[@alexnderrrthewoke4479]

Successful in sales and in battlefield are 2 different things

[@phelansa23]

@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 aaaahhh, here we go. The meuricans have arrived. Nothing and nobody can say anything good about anything that isn’t F35. Look Bubba, Rafael has proven itself in more than one conflict. At least do a little research before you embarrass yourself more.

[@liamobrien9451]

Why the fuck does everyone call it the Rafael, maybe you guys think rafale is the french way to say Rafael? A rafale is a very strong gust of wind, or une rafale de balles would be a spray of bullets

[@phelansa23]

@@liamobrien9451 could it be that not all of us are fucking native French speakers? Or, possibly regional dialects might change the pronunciation? Idk, just fucking guessing. Come here to central Africa… decide for yourself… My spelling is not perfect, but I can still make myself understood in English, French, Italian, German and Russian. I bet you that you cannot speak two words in my native language.

[@liamobrien9451]

@@phelansa23 skill issue

[@Desire123ification]

Off Topic: I'm still unable to locate any trustworthy information about photonic radar. My instinct tells me that it's most likely a sensor fusion technique, where the IRST is crucial because it collects sufficient information about a target using the infrared and visual spectrum. This information is then sent to the radar for improved and more precise targeting following a suitable lock. Note: Photonics is associated with light, which is typically visible through infrared or visual means.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

I can't help you. I a m interested as well.

[@kathrynck]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech It's the use of lasers to propagate and detect otherwise normal RF radar signals. It is considered to possibly be much more precise in outgoing signal, and especially more sensitive in detection & analysis of returns. In crudest possible terms, it'd be kinda like putting the normal operations of a radar under a microscope for extremely detailed analysis. It has enormous computational overhead though. And like all "anti-stealth" sensor tech, it doesn't actually make stealth obsolete, as it pushes the detection range of ALL contacts further out. Which in an indirect way, makes stealth _more_ rather than _less_ necessary.

[@Desire123ification]

​@@Millennium7HistoryTech: This simply answers your question from your earlier video. I looked up more information about the photonic radar because you expressed interest in learning more about it. Put succinctly, it should be an IRST/TV/Laser rangefinder amalgamated into a device akin to the French Dassault Rafale, known as the OSF (Optronique Secteur Frontal).

[@Triple_J.1]

F-35 LRIP Lot 13 cost per aircraft $79.2M which is in the range of a Gulfstream G700 or G800. The F-35 is in another category of performance, luxury and sophistication.

[@Bryan46162]

Low frequency radar doesn't help detect stealth. All it does is light EVERYTHING ELSE up and overwhelm an operator.

[@petesheppard1709]

Mind boggling. What is the projected time frame before these systems start becoming compromised? There's no doubt there are a lot of equally smart people with very powerful computers working very hard on breaking down these loops.

[@LRRPFco52]

JSF has its own closed loop MADL network that individually cross-checks any TGT tracks. Each airframe independently analyzes TGTs across multiple sensors and spectrums against each other. The AESA, EOTS, DAS, and passive RF sensors all sniff and scan TGTs independently, sending their feeds through fusion algorithms that cross-check the data against a threat & friendly library that used 639 parameters 7 years ago.

[@razony]

F-35 is NOT a dog fighter. Forget all its claims, it's irrelevant. It's a better platform attack fighter than what it's going to come across. On top of it's capabilities to communicate and integrate with other friendly platforms. It can communicate and use the F-15, F-22 F-35's Typhoons systems. The enemy in not only up against the F-35, but all the platforms in the sky. It's like having John Elway, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Bret Farve on the field at once. The enemy will loose and loose badly.

[@patrickchase5614]

Many modern SAM systems can provide _midcourse_ guidance to their missiles without mode-switching. Patriot, AMRAAM, ESSM, Standard SM-2/6, etc all fit that bill

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Correct

[@UEGMEAT]

People I hear who critisize it simply do NOT understand the real strengths of this craft. They may be able to identify the terms, but they don't understand the concepts

[@steelrad6363]

Always informative. Thank you.

[@peterweller8583]

Phat Amy block 4? I thought the platform was robust. Or Rubinesc?

[@LordMarksman14]

It can also fly without a pilot. So advanced!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

😄

[@allenward758]

Outstanding and deep analysis! 👍👍👍