Smith and Wesson SD9 2.0 vs M&P9 2.0

#smithandwesson
Both are powerhouse flagship models for Smith and Wesson. The SD9 and the M&P9 aren’t intended to compete with each other but I do believe a comparison will help people understand what they are getting at the different price points.

[@GodGunsGills]

I have a M&P 2.0 Metal, 2.0 Compact, and Shield Plus... now I want that SD 2.0!!!

[@winowarrior9392]

I am still carrying the old SD and just saw this... Now, I also want that SD 2.0 hahahaha. But on the real, I want the SIG too! Oh, the temptation is strong.

[@JoelPerez-qr1dp]

I bought an SD9 before I saw this video. I took out to the range. I shot 115, 124 & 147 ( fmj & hollow points ) and it shot great. My shots were a tight circle. No jams. I was pleased.

[@davidhr121]

Another excellent $300 pistol is the CZ P10C.

[@michaelsweaney3890]

Word! Also the Beretta APX full size for $375 ish is 💣

[@filippocorti6760]

CZ recently lowered the MSRP on those and some others. I'm guessing magazines are expensive, though.

[@zcavka916]

CZ has a limited warranty. Smith and Wesson: lifetime.

[@kinternationalki2945]

Canik is killing all these for price and quality

[@1s1k97]

Canik is king! Great line of weapons!!

[@Mr1MOA]

I always liked the SD9 overall except the trigger, I'd be interested in picking up a spare pistol and this would be a great contender at that price point.

[@michaelsweaney3890]

Taurus G3C is also an excellent option for $225 - -$275 ish

[@wizardofahhhs759]

You can always throw an Apex trigger in it . The Shield triggers will probably interchange with the SD9.

[@t-manfouche6745]

I just got the M&P bundle with range bag, two 15-round magazines, and two 23-round magazine backstrap and all. From Academy Sports for $473 here in STL Missouri.

[@dmo848]

No friggin way. That's a deal. Would cost well over 500 in Florida

[@lbmautos]

Yea they have them on & off throughout the year.

[@Grizzly406]

I just got an SD9 2.0 my overall thoughts. It’s a great budget pistol. Accurate, trigger is night and day, good grip, sights are okay nothing special. But I like it overall.

[@MrBuckeye63]

Your the first to do a review on this pistol , thanks 😊

[@gradybird3336]

I need another 9mm pistol like I need a third eye, but this pistol intrigues me. Extremely tempting. Very nice looking, affordable, and made in the U.S.A. I hope S&W sells zillions of 'em!

[@popupheadlights]

Hey no such thing as enough handguns

[@Longeno55]

Nice review! I have an older standard M&P 9, purchased back in 2012, and it's been a great functioning and shooting semi-auto pistol. It's nice to see that Smith and Wesson improved the SD9 which will likely attract more buyers because to the price. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

[@leonardpiskacsr.7111]

I also have A Gen 1 M&P 40SW and Gen 1 SD 9mm Love them Both Solid Guns!!

[@herbertsungahid]

Thank you for the video. Im now convinced to buy SD9 2.0. I have other expensive guns shadow system but this $299 Smith and Wesson shoots really good as I tested it from my friend.

[@Brett235]

Good comparison video. I prefer the M&P series over the Glock pistols. The Sd series pistols are a great option for the budget minded and they're just as reliable as some of the more expensive brands.

[@michaelsweaney3890]

Word...... Blocks: -Overrated -Overpriced -Outdated

[@9770G]

Found the Glock haters with Glock living in their heads rent free 🤣🤡

[@Brett235]

@@9770G you're being small minded. I didn't say that I hate Glock, quite the opposite actually. I have 3 Glock pistols and I like them, I just prefer M&P simply because they actually come duty ready unlike Glock.

[@toddwills9492]

The sd is a cult classic i remember first starting out younger everyone had one and the fact they made a 2.0 i love it this is great

[@FlySoloDre]

I like 9mm and 40 cal. I have the sd40ve.

[@iMikegreen]

I'm finally considering one.

[@richardcabello5028]

I just purchased and shot my new SD9 2.0 last week. Shot about 75 rounds. I also brought my Glock 19 Gen 5 with me which I’ve had for awhile. I actually enjoyed the SD9 better! Maybe because it was just different. Regardless, felt good in my hand and appeared fairly accurate as per my shooting placement!

[@DK-gy7ll]

One thing you forgot to mention is that the SD9 only comes with one magazine. I realize that helps keep the price down, but the competitors come with up to three.

[@brianc0019]

Great work, I think you're the first to do this comparison 👍🏾

[@Johnnyjonas274]

Just bought an SD 9 2.0 today. Trigger feels fine to me. I have other handguns, I just wanted one dedicated to just home defense. I have an extra headlight for it. I normally carry a 43X for EDC.

[@blueconverse8265]

Fantastic video review. Keep up the great work 👍

[@GB-zi6qr]

Thanks for the comparison!!! I have the M&P V1.0 and the old model SD9VE, I also have calipers. The M&P mag is 0.050" wider than the SD mag. Close inspection of the feeding angle looks like the magazines have the same angle. As far as grip angle, these two look to be the same. The big difference is the bottom of the grip and the M&P holds an extra round. Those differences mean that you aren't going to swap mags between them. While I did just pick up this SD9 VE, I'm going to be on the lookout for this new one.

[@peedonkel]

A fair review…one has to remember the heavy trigger is meant as a safety measure like carrying a revolver. These are not target shooters

[@roadking681]

I like the way the SD points and feels in my hand better then the M&P 2.0. I own a M&P just like yours and I had a SDVE and gave it to my nephew just recently as a first gun birthday gift and I loved that SDVE after 1000's of rounds with no malfunctions. I will now be purchasing the SD 2.0, I like it better than the M&P and the Glock the SD feels so much better in the hand which makes me shoot it more accurate and it conceals better then the M&Ps cus the grip is thinner. The SD's may be budget in price but not in quality its a very solid well made gun.

[@richki.24]

I luv my SD9VE, been my fav since I bought it about 6 maybe 7 years ago ..

[@jackripper6033]

Must be the only gun you got cuz I own one and I’d put it near the bottom of the list for sure

[@Algemene]

Thinking of getting one these to carry when I’m out of town. Something plain and simple when I got visit family. That way I can leave the expensive firearms at home.

[@TTime685]

Wish the SD 2.0 came in FDE and black like the original.. Who knows maybe they will eventually

[@wizardofahhhs759]

The one I bought for my wife is "robins egg blue" it was love at first sight 😃

[@rsl82568]

I have a SD9VE. I upgraded the trigger. I also upgrade the Slide Bar and the Take Down Slide Lever to Stainless Steel. I love it. I don't need SD9 2.0. The SD9 2.0 Slide Bar and Take Down Slide Lever needs to be upgraded to Stainless Steel from NDZ Performance.

[@SincereMathis]

My carry Weapon was a Glock 19, i saw the SD9 2.0 and Bought It. Took it to the Range, Ran 300 rounds through it fresh out of the Box, No Problems at all. Great gun. I put the Glock up and now the SD9 2.0 is now my Carry weapon. Just ran better to me

[@duroisgawd]

I really like the lines on top of the slide. Akin to a ppq. Now if sw releases this in od green I'm all in.

[@travisp11]

While I was a huge fan of the SD9 VE a few years ago it’s tough for me to choose an SD9 2.0 where I can get a PSA Dagger with an optics cut and a threaded barrel for just a few bucks more. Again, I’m gonna check out the SD9 2.0 as jt looks like a solid carry gun. The only weakness the older SD9 VE had was the polymer guide rod that had some cycling issues.

[@jonbrown1341]

I have seen 313 shipped for the 2.0 vs 419.00 plus tax with free shipping for the Dagger with suppressor height sights and an rmr cut. I already have both dogs in the fight, but I will get the 2.0 :(

[@travisp11]

Sounds good!@@jonbrown1341

[@pdrguy]

I got my Dagger by buying the frame for $49 and the slide for $199. Obviously not including sales tax or transfer fee but that's generally the cheapest way to get it. I know slide prices are up now but they have sales all the time. BTW I'd still get the 2.0 haha @@jonbrown1341

[@kinternationalki2945]

The daggers are cheap I haven't heard anything in person good about them go 2.0

[@simplerick256]

Lol, I really want the SD9 2.0

[@farmninja6653]

The SD9VE is good to go after changing to a lighter trigger spring and better sights. This appears to only need better sights.

[@stuco]

Except modifying a self defense weapon is not a good idea, so there's that.

[@tj89124]

The only time modifications matter is if they can reveal intent that a prosecutor could use against you in court. Keep the paperwork from gunsmith, my sd9ve is far better after modifications.

[@propdoctor21564]

Excellent review.. Personally I think the SD9 is The better of the two and even though I can afford the m&p I would buy the SD9. Many years ago I had a Sigma which was a great gun but the trigger did suck. Other than that no complaints.

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

I take it you think Harbor Freight tools are the shiznit too? SD9 = JJJJUNK.

[@propdoctor21564]

@@colt10mmsecurity68 I like to spend as little money as possible on something that will get the job done... I am guessing you are someone who feels the need to have the big name brands to impress other people.

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

@@propdoctor21564 Not exactly. I just realize that I can afford better quality and I don’t have to settle on cheap “Harbor Freight-like” stuff for my defensive needs. I figure if it’s a model and brand that not even police departments nor military would issue to troops, why on earth would anyone else settle for that junk themselves? I’ve said it before, skip three Saturday night dinners and you too can then afford to upgrade the additional cost for a better brand.

[@paulcarlin5181]

I love my G17(protects the house), but def want this SD 2.0 as a truck gun. @@propdoctor21564

[@miguelledezma1394]

​@colt10mmsecurity68 lol dude you probably those dudes that buy snap on and think everything usa made is better

[@boss94ways51]

I just sold my sd9ve last month to get the bul armory cherokee ..shot it for the first time yesterday at the range... I dont really care for it...going to get rid of it to get the sd9 2.0..

[@tomchristian9722]

I have the sw9ve and the SD9VE. Both excellent work horses. Haven’t ever let me down.

[@Mr1965impala]

Ordering my SD9 2.0 this week!

[@nastymkfan]

Testing the M&P M2.0 is next on my bucket list the next time I rent a gun in the range (here in CA).

[@ChefBoyarDEEZ]

I got my M&P9 M2.0 Compact 4" inch 15+1 brand new for $350 right when the updated version came out. I wish I had the new trigger so bad rather than that ish hinged trigger, but still an amazing gun. Love it.

[@ChefBoyarDEEZ]

The SD9VE was my first pistol. I ended up getting the Galloway Precision Boudica Flat Faced Trigger and reduced power spring kit in it, made a huge difference..... But man the SD9 2.0 seems to be everything I wanted the original to be. When the Equalizer came out I was like man those slide serations would look awesome on the SD9.... And check it out! What I didn't expect was the trigger upgrades. I did not expect them to upgrade the trigger because I figured they wouldn't jeopardize the M&P sales.... But I am happy to see it. I gotta pick one up.

[@filippocorti6760]

There's aftermarket triggers out there.

[@wgd19671]

Put an Apex trigger in it you won’t regret it!

[@traumajock]

If S&W was smart, they'd add a 2.0 in 40 S&W to the lineup. S&W is missing out, they won't sell parts. They could offer 357 Sig barrels to go in the SD40. They could offer build options on their website for folks who want better sights. They should offer an optic cut. S&W probably doesn't care, because they ship thousands of SD series every month. It's a loss leader item for them, meant to attract a first time buyer who might otherwise buy a Taurus or a Ruger. They want that buyer to reach for an M&P when they want and can afford something better. It's escaped them that upgrading something yourself is fun, many people do it just like they customize vehicles. They SHOULD have made the mags interchangeable from the get -go. That might've enticed me to get an M&P , same with the barrels, how hard could it have been? So, they've made minor changes to the slide, improved the trigger to steal sales from Apex, Galloway Precision, and MCarbo.

[@patbrown463]

You hit the nail on the head with this comment!! I couldn't agree with more.

[@patbrown463]

I buy conversion barrels for all of my 40 S&W's.

[@damiansutube]

Thanks for this breakdown. Clear and concise.

[@toddparsons2980]

Looks like a good option.

[@user-tw8ov]

I was recommend ur channel yesterday and today I remember you as millerusaf

[@armeddefender]

Yup back in the day

[@frantzcelestin9322]

Sergentmiller@@armeddefender

[@davidgiles9751]

If I could legally purchase one here in CO, I would - just to have it. Unfortunately, we have a ridiculous 15 round mag capacity limit. If S&W offered it in 15 rounds, I'd be happy to own one.

[@guynall4025]

Smith dose offer a 10 pundit mag for it from what I could find

[@richardsqueeze]

I have the sw9ve, it was the first pistol i bought 20 yrs ago. Damn i feel old saying that. I shot it as recent as about 6 months ago, still has never given me a problem with so many rds thru i lost count yrs ago. I think ill pick up this new version as the original has clearly passed the test of time for me.

[@johnshepherd9676]

I would compare the SD9 to the PSA Dagger.

[@blueconverse8265]

Will Smith and wesson come out with a California compliant model SD9 2.0? If so that will be a home run.

[@armeddefender]

I hope so for you guys

[@GB-zi6qr]

​@@armeddefenderI know you've done a review on the SDVE's, I guess you don't still have the previous model. I would think the older mags would work in the new model. I know that's a big leap for some but changing the mags wouldn't make sense from a manufacturer point of view. Just my ¢.02.

[@Isaiahlp]

​@@GB-zi6qrthey take the same mags

[@DC9716]

I've had a M&P 2.0 for years, it has been my favorite pistol since I bought it. I picked up a SD 9 2.0 a couple of days ago based purely on price alone. I am anxious to see how it compares to my M&P.

[@JhonnyHorvath]

Did the trigger pull on the sd9 change compare to the heavy 8 pound pull the sd9ve had

[@therockindoc5453]

Thank you for a really great video comparison

[@killstroke7492]

I have the le only MP9 2.0 got mine with all the bells and whistles came with three 17 round mags and 4 custom palm swells for 399.

[@danrunner84]

Great review. Well done.

[@randomactsofcooking]

I had 2 gripes with the SD9 1.0. the trigger and the take down lever. The take down lever I had to use my fingernails and was a PITA. I replaced the trigger with a flat face one and extended take down grip. What are your thoughts on the take down grips on the 2.0?

[@Isaiahlp]

Its the same as glocks and my sd40, still a bish to pull with freshly cut nails

[@18wheeler77]

You’re actually the third reviewer on the new SD9 I’ve seen since its release. One of them doesn’t even have a gun in front of them.

[@armeddefender]

I only see a couple vids from me then another guy. Who is the third?

[@18wheeler77]

@@armeddefender oh yeah. You’re right. The other though was Josh Weily.

[@DrumandPianoDude]

I had the Shield Plus, and the gripping was aggressive that it felt like sandpaper. To me, it was miserable to grip even with my calluses. The grip texturing is nicer on the SD. I had to put a Hogue on the Smith so that could carry IWB without wearing my skin raw.

[@chillios2222]

Like the looks of the new SD never ever got one , it's time now

[@THORR-mh9px]

They are both very good....I have them both...

[@kickadams8908ass]

I personally carry an upgraded M&P Shield, 2.0. But you can do a lot worse than an SD9 2.0

[@wgd19671]

The SD 9 2.0 is very close to the Taurus G3

[@scottflowers7780]

S&W should offer discount for the new trigger system for the old Sdve9. Glock offer upgrade to there old gen pistols.

[@lenculpepper9150]

Give the Tisas px9 gen3 a look. Same price range, excellent trigger, 18&20 Rd Sig 226 mags. XD clone and a great shooter.

[@mopesrus7266]

Tisas also comes with several back straps and side plates so you can fit the grip to you.

[@nobleeagle7661]

I recently bought the MP9 2.0, it listed for $589 yet got it on clearance for $389. The pistol feels great in my hand but different, of course, from my Shield Plus due to longer barrel.

[@cheeng1]

Nice video. The SD9 imo matches the G19 closest. The M&P9 has a lot of features the G19 does not have.

[@kanamouxalel2679]

Do you know the dimension of the rear sights (and forward sights) dovetail cut out? It looks like it's smaller than the usual M&P9 2.0, so I guess I won't be able to use sights not made specifically for the Competitor. The reason for this is I am looking for some rear sights with fiber installed

[@christianyazzie4731]

I got the smith and Wesson sd9 2.O I payed $350 and taxes for it out here in New Mexico at a pawnshop

[@michaelstokley6796]

Spare mags are dirt cheap also for these and robust used ones in my area are 15. Bucks for high capacity ones

[@RidinDirtyOutdoors]

So M&P mags still won’t work in these?

[@armeddefender]

Nope

[@RidinDirtyOutdoors]

@@armeddefender dang, missed opportunities. Still nice though

[@John-jj7jq]

Are they going to make an SD40 2.0 ?? I cannot find the 40 Version of this anywhere..

[@dodgervision1]

Are the mags on the SDV9 1.0 compatible with the 2.0?

[@armeddefender]

I believe so

[@ramongonzalez1564]

Yes, I just got a SD9 2.0 and the magazines I still have from my old SD9VE are the same as the one the 2.0 comes with.

[@dodgervision1]

@@ramongonzalez1564 Roger that. Thanks Ramon.

[@filippocorti6760]

Will the remaining stock at distributors and retailers of the original SD9 guns probably be discounted to make way for the 2.0 series?

[@barefootbob1269]

Nope the ones in my area are going for more than the 2.0. Don't ask me why. But you may see them come down in the future.

[@filippocorti6760]

@@barefootbob1269 I noticed the same thing. I don't understand why either.

[@TheFirearmsReviewChannel]

From one KZbinr to another Good job Good Job Good Job Good job

[@enriqueoliva6988]

Did smith and wesson found a fix yet on the sd9 2.0 triggers failure to fire.I really like it and I'm interested at this budget gun than the Taurus G3C.

[@RichiesHouse]

Used mp 3-350 all day in Colorado with generally couple mags

[@alanclayton1461]

I have an sd9 with the light attached… unfortunately I can’t find a ccw holster for my model with a light (some without the light) I have found some for the mp with light… do you think they would interchange in a holster considering size is so similar?

[@blackicekck9family379]

I was thinking the same thing just lil better than Taurus ,Taurus can’t even take a apex trigger

[@dmo848]

Any idea about the max9 from ruger or security 380? I want low recoil and easy to keep on target. Highest power of possible.

[@exz0r.ex3]

Pretty much if you want a Glock get a Glock… if you want an m&p get that.

[@larryproffer8603]

How difficult would it be to test the trigger pull ?

[@bigfellatrent1727]

I own both. M&P isn’t worth the extra $250 for most people that just need a good reliable affordable firearm.

[@mdubb4855]

Bet you a $1 it will be on the California in a couple of weeks. Unless they need a tactile loaded chamber indicator as on the California Shield.

[@williamryan9195]

They will require the LCI in California. The handgun roster infringement is still in place minus the micro stamping requirement.I used a Low profile LCI from Apex trigger. They also make a delete package.

[@filippocorti6760]

I wonder if they will come out with a new SD40.

[@leonardpiskacsr.7111]

I have tne gen 1 in 40sw....Love it!😊

[@filippocorti6760]

@@leonardpiskacsr.7111 How rough is the recoil?

[@leonardpiskacsr.7111]

@@filippocorti6760 little more then a 9mm not much..very Controllable!!

[@filippocorti6760]

@@leonardpiskacsr.7111 Stock or aftermarket trigger?

[@leonardpiskacsr.7111]

@@filippocorti6760 stock no issue for me i like it!

[@TheSilverbullet99]

available in 40SW?

[@tomorender6479]

I do not like the fish scale cuts.

[@BertieW0oster]

How can the budget model also be the flagship model?

[@stephensteere3051]

I put the sd9 2.0 on layaway at KYGUNCO

[@vwjordan89]

Do the m&p clips work with the 2.0?

[@claudb1029]

Can't afford? I think the question is value for the money. I noticed the SD9 comes with one magazine. My opinion you need at least two for me three. IF, the MP9 has the typical two you must add $30 plus to the real price on the SD9. Interchangeable mags? In double stack I have 10, 12, 15 and 17-no 16. Putting a bigger mag into a smaller pistol requires a spacer to fit well they are not cheap and some are not even made. Far as S&W I am a fan. I own six pistols and five are S&W. Not brand loyalty it is all opinion but my opinion in each choice was value for the money. Pistols do seem to multiply. Ammo-most talk about 500 rounds to break it in. That is minimum $250 for target ammo. Plus a couple of boxes of far more expensive defense ammo.

[@Jarvitalize]

Is that the M&P compact or full size?

[@gbgary]

are the guide rods interchangeable?

[@kenshin034]

The OG SDVE is just a thinner lighter 2.0 with a better slide/serrations/release the STOCK trigger is fine don’t call it trainer glock for nothing 😂just stipple sights and lights,folks shouldn’t even touch a glock till they’ve mastered a oem SD9 but still one of the best carry compacts out I EDC both SD9VE/🛡+TS most comfy EDCs out especially download SD to 10/12rd EDC in 🏖,and the old version will be under $300 new also fits Mp9 full size light holsters(tlr1 👑),smith is as low as you go never ♉️only get the G2C will eat all HPs the G3/3Cs are finicky

[@user-tw8ov]

Any experience with cz

[@armeddefender]

CZs are awesome across the board

[@mdubb4855]

Is the grip angle same as Glock?

[@garypennington5128]

Who cares about as long as it goes bang😂

[@jimtheedcguy4313]

The reason for the size difference is you’re comparing the duty size m&p to a compact size firearm.

[@thodgkins3603]

What do you mean they are 'not in competition with each other'?? They are almost neck to neck with each other and I actually prefer the S & W. Size, dimensions, specs, reliability and reputation are almost identical. SMH

[@DennieMelton]

Hope this is not a Preview for Nov. 2024?- (Nampa, Idaho) Follower:05/28/2024:

[@tjkeeling]

would the barrels interchange?

[@Isaiahlp]

Nope new barrel the old mags works and holsters

[@Dressed2KillTaye]

Smith is going BACKWARDS. No one needs that in 2024. Should've came out in 2020. M&P9 M2.0 have bundles for $400 4 magazine 2 extended & optics ready. Like seriously. Why? 😂😂😂😂

[@armeddefender]

More options for different tastes.

[@hondcivic007]

Smith is smart my guy they want taurus sales 299 on palmetto really single moms people on a budget i could go on

[@RobertKinne-lh8wn]

Those are suppressor height site's on the m an p do some research before you act like you know what your talking about

[@rickcardenas8841]

Get a slip on houge grip…. Shhh! I didn’t say that

[@Mark-jr7ux]

The SW SD9 2.0 is for a Security Guard on a Budget.

[@paulparadis66]

Only the clueless poors would buy an SD9.

[@armeddefender]

So edgy

[@paulparadis66]

@@armeddefender I guess the truth hurts. The SD9 is garbage and it will always be garbage. Merry Christmas princess.

[@armeddefender]

You’re so cool

[@paulparadis66]

@@armeddefenderHappy New Year soyboi.

[@armeddefender]

@@paulparadis66 did I offend you? You seem offended.