Millisecond Reference for Audio

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joeclarmusic

joeclarmusic

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@andrewf5736
@andrewf5736 3 жыл бұрын
80ms is the time it takes for the brain to process visual and audio signals, so technically we are living 80ms in the past, so I just had to come find out how long in the past I'm living. Thanks for the upload!
@toobasicbot2000
@toobasicbot2000 3 жыл бұрын
Can I see where you got this information? I am interested in learning more.
@mikaelovaska8918
@mikaelovaska8918 3 жыл бұрын
@@toobasicbot2000 I dont know what andrew is referencing to, but predictive mind theory kind of touches that idea. Living 80ms in the past sounds kind a weird, it seems to be more like that sensory information from outside world is received in 80ms in the brain (I dont know if 80ms is correct or not, but surely there is some delay since signals dont just instantly travel to brain from your finger for example) Feldman Barrett's book "How emotions are made" is a great book about this idea.
@hike4424
@hike4424 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it 70ms
@thatisme3thatisme38
@thatisme3thatisme38 2 жыл бұрын
i can distinguish the 2 ticks starting around 15
@thatisme3thatisme38
@thatisme3thatisme38 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikaelovaska8918 it's not about the travel part. it's about the processing and making sense of it.
@AngryHandstands
@AngryHandstands 8 жыл бұрын
This helps so much in gaining a better understanding of just how long these different latency's are, relative to our perception of time.
@zacsampson9447
@zacsampson9447 6 жыл бұрын
That's why I came here
@zacsampson9447
@zacsampson9447 5 жыл бұрын
I started hearing two at 5.2 milliseconds but I am extremely attentive and have a mind blowing reaction time. My latency for games is 40-50 milliseconds on a wireless connection hoping to get it down to 30
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 4 жыл бұрын
@@zacsampson9447 Doesn't really matter if you're playing most single-player games. Your brain will adjust to when you press the controller and when your character on the screen responds. But it will matter a lot in most competitive games where killing the other guy first is crucial; you will definitely want less than the 40 milliseconds you currently have.
@ptroweachspec4903
@ptroweachspec4903 4 жыл бұрын
@@zacsampson9447 you're so cool bro
@landonmartin5831
@landonmartin5831 4 жыл бұрын
Frank Tank lol, people brag about anything these days
@kakenob
@kakenob Жыл бұрын
Came here after the Titan sub imploded. The 20 milliseconds that the people on sub felt, jesus
@berekerb3471
@berekerb3471 5 жыл бұрын
omfg, i love human beings. the sheer volume of clarity this video provided me is indescribable
@TheElvisnator
@TheElvisnator 5 жыл бұрын
0:00 My ping when I'm in school 0:47 My ping when I'm home
@shotuot7979
@shotuot7979 4 жыл бұрын
cant relate
@JeffWard
@JeffWard 6 жыл бұрын
Fun related thought: SF to Boston is ~2700 miles. It's 45 hours by car. It's a 5.5 hour flight. Light travels this distance in only 15 milliseconds (at 0:08, those two ticks are 15 ms apart.)
@clakoclakson
@clakoclakson 6 жыл бұрын
And 3.5h at the speed of sound!
@TANMAN47TANMAN
@TANMAN47TANMAN 4 жыл бұрын
First of all who cares about boston
@Nyctotope
@Nyctotope 4 жыл бұрын
TANMAN47TANMAN Jeff Ward does
@davidgreen6920
@davidgreen6920 2 ай бұрын
Actually really helpful for music... Was looking at the latency of the Waves Plugins I use through Sound Grid, and was finding that some of my racks were getting up to a total of 240 samples of latency (about 5 ms in our system) per rack. It's not great and zero latency would be better, but I wasn't sure how bad that was, but after listening to this and barely hearing the second pop starting after 9.8 ms, I was like, yeah, I'm okay. There's no problem with this. Thanks for posting this. Helped solve an issue I was working on today.
@alhanoofalkabi3617
@alhanoofalkabi3617 2 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite song now!! thanks a lot
@joevarela6736
@joevarela6736 5 жыл бұрын
This video has totally helped me understand the latency on my new guitar wireless connection, THANK YOU!!! 😀
@mr.actiongal1017
@mr.actiongal1017 8 жыл бұрын
Comments 99.9% get it 0.1% dont
@hyper98
@hyper98 8 жыл бұрын
vice versa?
@user-pw5do6tu7i
@user-pw5do6tu7i 7 жыл бұрын
Mr.ActionGal101 well its the closest to being in the 1% ill ever be
@tmalone2530
@tmalone2530 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t get it lol
@theincarnateofkurro
@theincarnateofkurro 4 жыл бұрын
Im that 0.1
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
This is truly fantastic. I always thought my 51-61ms latency was pretty good. I had heard of people with 20ms but I've never experienced it. The fact that you can hear two separate, distinct clicks at 15.1ms is astounding. (as opposed to being able to tell that there are two right at 5.1, 15.1 they become separate sounds)
@slimshadyowns
@slimshadyowns 5 жыл бұрын
this is so helpful...should have way more views..
@JasonGeraldG
@JasonGeraldG Жыл бұрын
What a great video. I felt so much better about my latency after reviewing these examples.
@chipcrell242
@chipcrell242 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the clarity with which you demonstrated the answer was something amazing and quick. Thanks
@malikonthesus
@malikonthesus 2 жыл бұрын
this helps me understand the round trip time back from my house to my school over vpn thanks.
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, so I don't want my input to lag beyond 22.5 milliseconds. Thank you for this vid!
@esper6119
@esper6119 3 жыл бұрын
It took me a minute to realize the way you were conveying it, and then wow this FTL defense drone III shoots *really* fast at 150ms delay, like oh wow
@josephgette7137
@josephgette7137 Жыл бұрын
This is great representation of latency. Hearing the latency puts it into perspective as you can hear a difference that you may not feel (say between 2 & 4.1 milliseconds.)
@willowwispvt
@willowwispvt 2 жыл бұрын
You absolute legend I love you thank you so much
@phill7507
@phill7507 9 ай бұрын
I came here to listen how long it took for the titan to transform from biology into physics..I don’t know what is more crazy, the thought of looking it up, or the 20 milliseconds
@montydaniels1054
@montydaniels1054 5 жыл бұрын
Cool, this was the best as far as being the easiest to follow. So far this video was the best I've watched & for listening. I just wanted to see & hear what a 70 ms delay was like. There's always the chance of an issue like this with bluetooth headsets. Before I start to pay out, I wanted to know first hand what I could end up with. Not the money issue, the hassle of buying, trying, shipping back & over & over again..... Thank you for the upload.....
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Now I know two identical signals need to be more than 5ms apart to prevent phase cancellation.
@alexharkler
@alexharkler 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I'm working on programming electronic drums and I now know that I can ignore any 2x hits of a drum under 5ms apart as it's audibly indistinguishable to a single hit.
@josh.graham
@josh.graham Жыл бұрын
Well this is amazingly helpful... THANKYOU!
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND (Paragraphs) General Understanding--> Game Action--> Reaction--> Music Please "Like" my comment so others can see this explanation if they need it, as well! "The amount of time between the first and second pops = the number on the screen. So when 25.0 pops up, you will hear a pop. it means that there is a 25 millisecond delay between the first pop and the time the second pop is heard." -Justin Gabrial (in a subcomment) Imagine the first tick you hear is you clicking your mouse and the second tick you hear is how long it takes for the game to process your action. If you're at 20ms vs 100ms, makes a big difference. If you're thinking about reaction times, say the first tick is the instant something happens and the second tick is how long it takes you to react to it. I actually have no idea how this is meant for music but I have a suggested video on the side called "David Gilmour's delay sounds" which I think should help you.
@Nyctotope
@Nyctotope 4 жыл бұрын
You did a bad job explaining this, still nobody is going to understand
@aryapande9713
@aryapande9713 4 жыл бұрын
I understood from it
@aryapande9713
@aryapande9713 4 жыл бұрын
Sxdlsm lol it was kinda simple to understand
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nyctotope Sorry, I tried. And I don't think I did a bad job; it's kind of rude for you to say that just because you still don't understand. 😔 Or maybe you do understand and you could provide a better explanation at which point you should just do that instead of telling me I did a bad job because everybody understands it differently and the way I understood it and explained the way that I understood it was perfectly fine and will work for some people. If you think you have a better explanation then give your explanation, too, because everybody learns differently and no one way is right or wrong.
@Nyctotope
@Nyctotope 4 жыл бұрын
HeritageDrPepper I wish I had the ability to explain and understand stuff the way normal people do but my brain just doesn’t work that way. Maybe your explanation was so simple that my brain thought it was more complicated than it really was.😐 I also apologize for replying with such a rude response I just wasn’t thinking straight and I may have a different way of viewing things. I always seem to get people mad at me and I don’t know why. That’s probably why I don’t have any friends. I’m so immature for someone my age and I’m pretty useless on this earth tbh.
@podiacider
@podiacider 9 ай бұрын
i lost a race by 9 milliseconds and wanted to see how long that is
@Xenogenocide
@Xenogenocide 3 жыл бұрын
from 0.5 to 5ms sound like fireworks going off
@PowBamZing
@PowBamZing 4 жыл бұрын
This is a freaking brilliant video.
@alexhb12333
@alexhb12333 2 жыл бұрын
A car horn beeps for 30ms when you lock the doors... listened for a reference!
@the.bobbybass
@the.bobbybass 5 жыл бұрын
You can hear the undertone series
@UNLKYHNTR
@UNLKYHNTR 4 жыл бұрын
This helped me to "visualize" the 50 ish millisecond input lag my TV has. Since it's pretty old and doesn't really have a gaming mode to lower the number, I am forced to buy a new one which has an input lag below 15 ms.
@vudusid9137
@vudusid9137 4 жыл бұрын
UNLKY HNTR this is why monitors are better as they are usually bellow 4ms
@jean-naymar602
@jean-naymar602 6 жыл бұрын
Even more crazy when you realise there's about 80ms delay between the moment an external stimulus occurs (eg. a light flashes), and the moment your brain finishes processing it...
@zacsampson9447
@zacsampson9447 5 жыл бұрын
Mine tested is sub-50ms
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
@@zacsampson9447 how'd you test that? Also, you must game a lot lol. I love the experience of a gamer reacting to something before they even consciously register it.
@TANMAN47TANMAN
@TANMAN47TANMAN 4 жыл бұрын
80ms? yer really slow
@uzefulvideos3440
@uzefulvideos3440 4 жыл бұрын
​@@zacsampson9447 You have to use an EEG or something similar to accurately measure that value.
@kaoquinn
@kaoquinn 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME TOOL
@nabskull1567
@nabskull1567 4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what this is but this was pretty interesting
@playaspec
@playaspec 6 жыл бұрын
A hard panned left/right version would be very useful. This helped me regardless.
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Like the screen is divided into two sections and they also flash at the intervals for a visual queue? The number would stay centered, however, considering that's the entire point, that the first tick you hear is the action you make and the second tick you hear is how long it takes for that action to be registered, so to speak.
@HorizonDex
@HorizonDex 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeritageDrPepper you can have audio output only on left or right speaker. i think he means that the first click is on the one side and the second on the other
@SethCrosby
@SethCrosby 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is very helpful.
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice audio model of milliseconds. Extremely simply yet informative. I'm wondering if there will be a visual version as well.
@alessandrocossu1466
@alessandrocossu1466 3 жыл бұрын
There's the phisical limit of the video's frame rate. Best case scenario if the video is 60 hz the only visual representation you'll get is for 16,6666667ms aka how much time a single frame takes to refresh. In a 120h video the same number becomes 8,33333333 and 3,33333333 for a 300hz video
@9000ryan
@9000ryan 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for the video.
@MuffinMachine
@MuffinMachine 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. It is useful.
@kekuruvin
@kekuruvin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much bro. Its really helpful
@scottlootens9223
@scottlootens9223 5 жыл бұрын
Best EDM tune I have heard in a while, but it really slowed down towards the end. Good demo of latency...I was looking more for a video latency but this give me a good idea of a 30ms latency would be on a live feed..almost imperceptible.
@DogeFrom2014
@DogeFrom2014 5 жыл бұрын
Needs more bass tho
@yehabon
@yehabon 2 жыл бұрын
Proper good mate.
@vudusid9137
@vudusid9137 4 жыл бұрын
Now I don’t have to worry that my monitor is only 4ms.
@jollygrapefruit786
@jollygrapefruit786 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not using this for audio I'm using this for fighting games 😂
@Jayjay-s3i
@Jayjay-s3i 10 ай бұрын
i was expecting a jumpscare
@Edalvarez18
@Edalvarez18 6 жыл бұрын
thank you this is very helpful!
@ssncrockett
@ssncrockett 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone see the flash of white on the screen? Cuz I did
@bennwells
@bennwells 6 жыл бұрын
No
@errorgomez6657
@errorgomez6657 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@theincarnateofkurro
@theincarnateofkurro 4 жыл бұрын
Me
@RatusMax
@RatusMax 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it helped that I had 2X speed on at default...
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha I get that. I watch nearly everything on 2x speed loool.
@ptroweachspec4903
@ptroweachspec4903 4 жыл бұрын
0:12 my input lag :(
@JacobPadlock
@JacobPadlock 4 жыл бұрын
0:23 when i turn my mastering chain on
@damianhoster7975
@damianhoster7975 7 жыл бұрын
thank you! :)
@Isaacduarte31
@Isaacduarte31 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@zName1
@zName1 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@MaccusFNS
@MaccusFNS 6 жыл бұрын
I started to hear two clicks at 5.1 ms
@zacsampson9447
@zacsampson9447 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
same but it gets really pronounced at 15.1. Truly fantastic.
@LuisMartinez-xz3xq
@LuisMartinez-xz3xq 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it ngl
@Scrappzi
@Scrappzi 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you👍
@icouldntthinkofaname4227
@icouldntthinkofaname4227 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me which digit is for milliseconds
@hoover728
@hoover728 5 жыл бұрын
The whole digit is milliseconds. It starts with .5ms and ends with 4000ms (4 seconds).
@probablyintervert
@probablyintervert 7 жыл бұрын
send this to monstercat
@Joeman7890
@Joeman7890 7 жыл бұрын
What’s monstercat?
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
@@Joeman7890 Bruh... google. Listen to some of their songs, if you haven't already.
@anomolisagag2270
@anomolisagag2270 4 жыл бұрын
if the second is 60 to 0, how much for the millisecond, 99 to 0?
@inactiveguy03
@inactiveguy03 8 ай бұрын
I heard 2 seperate at 60ms
@Kwstatempora
@Kwstatempora 8 жыл бұрын
at 30 ms latency becomes annoying (both games and sound
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
You must be lucky. I always thought my 51-61ms was pgood. I was always told it was. But now, listening to this? I'm mad lol
@kbtube8125
@kbtube8125 7 жыл бұрын
thank you, helpful.
@Nyctotope
@Nyctotope 4 жыл бұрын
0:20 my ping
@SultanSultan-js5ku
@SultanSultan-js5ku 5 жыл бұрын
@9.8 ms I feel the difference
@nathun
@nathun 4 жыл бұрын
I start hearing the difference at 20 ms. How about you?
@pasi123567
@pasi123567 4 жыл бұрын
2ms
@ianrivera9563
@ianrivera9563 6 жыл бұрын
I don't get this at all
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
(Paragraphs) General Understanding--> Game Action--> Reaction--> Music The amount of time between the first and second pops = the number on the screen. So when 25.0 pops up, you will hear a pop. it means that there is a 25 millisecond delay between the first pop and the time the second pop is heard. Imagine the first tick you hear is you clicking your mouse and the second tick you hear is how long it takes for the game to process your action. If you're at 20ms vs 100ms, makes a big difference. If you're thinking about reaction times, say the first tick is the instant something happens and the second tick is how long it takes you to react to it. I actually have no idea how this is meant for music but I have a suggested video on the side called "David Gilmour's delay sounds" which I think should help you.
@LuisMartinez-xz3xq
@LuisMartinez-xz3xq 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeritageDrPepper this is so help full, thank you even though I am one year late.
@orangestoneface
@orangestoneface 4 жыл бұрын
face recocniton or no diffrentiation recoocintion bye looking at flash of face on screen l guess, take fifty millisecs flashed face.thats 0.05 sec l think
@ajeseyijimo904
@ajeseyijimo904 9 жыл бұрын
wow thanks
@edyns899
@edyns899 9 жыл бұрын
thanks
@Jacloch
@Jacloch 2 жыл бұрын
35.4 for me
@pairpunchgaming1394
@pairpunchgaming1394 Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one that can drckkkkkkkkk
@Davidxjdjdj
@Davidxjdjdj 3 жыл бұрын
0:28
@zacsampson9447
@zacsampson9447 5 жыл бұрын
0:24 Some little kids online ping
@harmony01104
@harmony01104 4 жыл бұрын
00:13
@sjekyg
@sjekyg Жыл бұрын
Shit i dont get it bro so wonder about it
@shaiukhnoor8391
@shaiukhnoor8391 8 жыл бұрын
I DONT GET IT
@JustinGabriel425
@JustinGabriel425 7 жыл бұрын
The amount of time between the first and second pops = the number on the screen. So when 25.0 pops up, you will hear a pop. it means that there is a 25 millisecond delay between the first pop and the time the second pop is heard.
@ILLmfnMILL
@ILLmfnMILL 7 жыл бұрын
it means 0ms is fast....
@MartZOZ
@MartZOZ 6 жыл бұрын
0ms is nothing literally...
@G4mm4gh0st
@G4mm4gh0st 6 жыл бұрын
MartZ0Z Nope. It can be something. There’s a type of second called nanosecond (a billionth of a second)
@MartZOZ
@MartZOZ 6 жыл бұрын
@@G4mm4gh0st well. 0 would be defined as 0. Not 0, however many zeroes are needed for a billionth of second.
@suspectmilkj8209
@suspectmilkj8209 7 жыл бұрын
That's not a millisecond
@DragonsREpic
@DragonsREpic 8 жыл бұрын
wtf is this about, I just want to compair reaction times!
@Joeman7890
@Joeman7890 8 жыл бұрын
+DragonsREpic meant for audio/mixing
@HeritageDrPepper
@HeritageDrPepper 5 жыл бұрын
Is it though? Imagine the first tick you hear is you clicking your mouse and the second tick you hear is how long it takes for the game to process your action. If you're at 20ms vs 100ms, makes a big difference. If you're thinking about REaction times, say the first tick is the instant something happens and the second tick is how long it takes you to react to it.
@lucasplayergamebr1250
@lucasplayergamebr1250 4 жыл бұрын
0:23 my ping
@PabzRoz
@PabzRoz 4 жыл бұрын
What is everyone here from Australia or something? lmao I don't get how people have such bad ping. My ping is on average 4 or 5ms... Never seen it go above 10ms.
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