Minelab Manticore vs Equinox 900 - Which to Buy?

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Brass Medic

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Mark was one of the first in the USA to get the Manticore and was able to get out and test it in multiple detecting environments including in the middle of a major storm with downpours and heavy winds and cold. He put the Manticore head-to-head with the Equinox 900 many times and this video explains his findings. In this video Mark shows you all of the differences between the two machines and gives you the information you need to make a choice on which machine to buy! If you are in the market for an upgrade or a new metal detector, this video is a must see!! Stay tuned for many more videos coming soon on the new Minelab Manticore Metal Detector AND the new Minelab Equinox 900 too!! Leave a comment below if you decide between the Minelab Manticore vs Equinox 900 - Which to Buy!
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Minelab Manticore vs Equinox 900 - Which to Buy?
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@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Ай бұрын
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@TexasTimelapse
@TexasTimelapse Жыл бұрын
One more thing to consider, NASA Tom posted early on in his Manticore thread that the Equinox 900 was a low end Multi IQ, the Manticore is a mid/upper detector. To me this implies a CTX 3030 replacement is in the works. I can't remember which page he posted this, but it is in his Manticore thread on his forum.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have heard this from multiple sources as well (although if anyone would know for sure it's NASA Tom). The new machine is being called the "Minelab Ultimate". I am eagerly awaiting this as very few have the amount of hours that I have at the end of a CTX-3030!! Thanks for the view and comment!!
@codyminecrack248
@codyminecrack248 Жыл бұрын
Just made the decision to go all in on this machine. (Manticore) Previously I was using a bounty hunter tracker 4 which misses a lot of potential finds. Ancient stuff, literally from analog to digital. This video helped ease the uncertainty my purchase. The newest smaller coils sound ideal, and the greater variety in music tones also fit my preference. In all honesty i’m just looking for an excuse to dig a hole! Cheers-
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 10 ай бұрын
Hah, same here! But yeah that is a huge upgrade from what you were using before and a very capable machine that will keep you motivated in the Hobby and not get frustrated. Thank you for checking out the video and for your comment!
@Urge38
@Urge38 Жыл бұрын
Your 100% correct on the importance off good quality audio. After all, it's what we use to determine a good signal or not. I went with the manticore, BUT I knew I was paying a premium Is it worth it ??? Well I would say yes, one thing NOT ONE has ever mentioned on ANY KZbin video The screen!!!!! The manticore screen is like a smartphone screen Yes, and not many people know of ever mention that!!! That costs money BUT does mean minelab can upgrade software and change whatever it wants Longevity is what I feel brings value to the manticore
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Good point(s)! But even the user interface is the best I have ever seen on any machine. Thanks for the view and comment!
@lukeboydetectingtresure1235
@lukeboydetectingtresure1235 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone talking sense! Thank you for this grate video 👏🏼👌🏻🥰
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Cheers, Thank you for the kind words and view!!
@maddog030
@maddog030 Жыл бұрын
Iam by no means a pro yet at metal detecting, I've watched numerous videos on the manticore, I'm just trying to make sure I made the right decision on ordering one, I have currently been using the nox 800 since it first came out, I originally was going to get the deus 2 as my upgrade, but went with the manticore instead. In your opinion, did I make the tight choice, other opinions from other subscribers welcomed as well.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
All I can say on this right now is . . . that in heavy iron, the XP Deus 2 is still king! If not consistently detecting in beds of nails than the choice gets pretty tough. So the Manticore is an awesome detector and it will serve you very well for a long time but right now, you only have 1 coil and no updates (if you can even find a manticore). I have to use the Deus 2 in heavy iron to have the best results but I don't like the tones or the detecting experience, but I use it because I want results! I much prefer the tones and detector experience on my Minelab CTX 3030 or the Manticore as it's enjoyable and ear pleasing tones. But what really matters to me is performance. I own every major machine made in the last 15 years so it's a tough choice when I reach for a machine to take on the trip. If I'm going to the beach it's the Manticore! If it's a park to look for deep silver I will take the Manticore or CTX. If it's to the goldfields and I'm not taking a PI machine like the GPX-6000 I will take either my Minelab Gold Monster 1000 or the Manticore. So I guess the question gets a little easier to answer when you can consider the types of sites you mostly hunt. Thanks for the view and comment!
@Gutek.1
@Gutek.1 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@curtsmetaldetecting
@curtsmetaldetecting Жыл бұрын
Why did you put on the graph the 900 doesn't have backlit buttons?, They do.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
The buttons are backlit and I screwed up and said they were not. Yes, I have since figured that out and the video can't be edited so it's unfortunately a bit of bad info there!!! Thank you for the view and comment/correction!
@Joel-McConnell
@Joel-McConnell Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! At the $1,600 price point, if a person is going to spend that much anyway, I think the comparison should be between the Deus II and Manticore rather than the 900. Don't forget the other coil sizes bring that price spread up to even more from the 900, closer to double if you also buy the extra 8 x 5 coil. I have been planning on getting the 900 all along and will stick with that I think for my needs. I live nowhere near a saltwater beach so that was the most helpful to me. Thanks! :)
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
GREAT Point on the value of the extra coil!! Yes the decision between the XP Deus 2 vs the Manticore is another video and although it's a very tough decision, it's not as commonly asked as the Manticore vs 900 is. Since they are two different companies and at the same price point and so close in performance, and so controversial as the fans of Minelab collide with fans of XP Deus, it's a video that you almost can't make any suggestions to the viewers without lighting a fire under someone. But the decision between these two with a big price difference of 32% it's a bit easier to help folks choose. You will love that Equinox 900!!! Fantastic in the goldfields too! Arguably the best VLF gold machine ever made to date! Thank you for your view and comment!!
@Myers70
@Myers70 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic really nice video. I do have a question, do you know anything about the 700. I currently own the vanquish 540 pro pack and was thinking about upgrading to the 700. You're opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@DigginTheNorth
@DigginTheNorth Жыл бұрын
No fires lit with this die hard XP D2 user! I love technology and I will go with whatever gives me an edge. I should have the Core very soon and I can’t wait to compare!
@jindoisland
@jindoisland 9 ай бұрын
I have an 800 and an XP D2. Love them both. I almost exclusively hunt wet sand at the beach here in Southern California. I also hunt waterfalls and swimming holes. I love both machines. I especially like the bone headphones that work with the D2. They enable me to hunt directly under a waterfall and still hear the signals. A few fellow “wet sand” beach hunters have told me they prefer the 900 over the Manticore. I foolishly didn’t ask them “why”. Im also a musician. I play guitar in a band called Dengue Fever, and I care about tones. With all this information, should I get a 900 or the Manticore? Or neither? Thanks!
@reconscout5994
@reconscout5994 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison video and all the effort you put into making great videos. Quick question. I'm considering getting the manticore to compliment my gold detecting arsenal. Does the 2d trace work in the prospecting mode on manticore, and do you feel it Is fairly reliable. It appears in another video I saw that lead targets mostly show below the non ferrous line in 2d. That would be great to be able to somewhat tell the difference between gold and lead. Some places I go are plastered with hundreds of lead targets in a small area. But there is good gold there. Thanks again for another great video, been watching for years on your last channel too. Hello from the Northern diggings up in shasta/ trinity area.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Great questions! Appreciate the view and the kind words! The 2D graph does work in goldfield general mode and it's very helpful. Nuggets appear right on the midline as little round dots, I have not seen lead drop down below the middle line ever, so not sure on that . Gold has a more subtle and slightly subdued sound compared to the more bombastic sound of lead. But you just have to dig all the lead to get the nuggets. In my gold patches I dig about 20 or so bullets for every piece of gold. So the good news is, if you finding bullets your in a great spot because the other detectors missed those bullets so they also missed the gold! I have heard lot's of stories about the gold up your way! The Manticore will prove to be arguably the best VLF Gold machine available on the market today. Best of luck out there!! 🤠⛏
@scrapiron6870
@scrapiron6870 Жыл бұрын
Red doesn’t tickle my fancy , yes the manticore has the best colorful control pad of any machine, but the unit only don’t include the accessories because that’s not the unit,
@VetforVets
@VetforVets Жыл бұрын
Mental Metal has also done some great videos comparing the Manticore, 900 and D2.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, good point, I know he was late to the game though as the other 3 content creators were already many videos in before Mental Metal could get his Manticore (to be fair Detecting NY just got his too). But I'm sure his videos are great to watch as well!! As far as comparing to the XP Deus 2, that's a whole different topic and maybe my next video! VERY Tough decision there! Thanks for view and comment Lee!!
@forr-g-tv445
@forr-g-tv445 Жыл бұрын
Guess I’m going with the manticore… lol thanks
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Hah! Are you mostly a beach detectorist? Good choice though! Thanks for the view and for checking in!
@forr-g-tv445
@forr-g-tv445 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I like the beaches, they’re close and I work so much it’s just quicker, but I love going out to old parks, towns, and anything related to history or civil war era relics. I’m in MN so I can’t detect rn, but I plan to take a trip this coming summer with my brother somewhere out west like Montana to detect and pan for gold in some streams.
@Myers70
@Myers70 Жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong buying the Equinox 700, 900 or the Manticore. Minelab rocks
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
This is TRUE!!! We're seeing some incredible machines on the market right now! Thank you for the view and comment!
@trevorpoile3001
@trevorpoile3001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you that’s a very good comparison it’s got to be the manticore then when the suppliers in the uk get them😂
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
I hope soon! I check every day and I will be one of the first to know when they start shipping and will absolutely let you guys know immediately! Cheers for the view and comment!
@JACOB1556
@JACOB1556 Жыл бұрын
They could easily add a 4 kHz mode on the manticore with a software update.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, but scroll down in the comments a bit and check out what CAPTN DAN said about this. Thank you for the view and comment!
@firstgerm
@firstgerm Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you for your input 🫡👍
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the view and kind words!! Much appreciated!
@rickr2071
@rickr2071 Жыл бұрын
New to your channel, have you used a Deus 2? If so how does it compare in your opinion to the Manticore? Thanks !
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Hi, welcome, hope you enjoy the videos! Yes I do and as far as comparing it in the type of sites I target, they are very comparable in performance but I still think the Deus 2 has the edge in separation amongst heavy iron. I prefer the tones on the Manticore though. Also dig waaaay less big iron and flat iron with the Manticore. Could be a lack of user skill but I always come home with a couple horseshoes when I take the Deus 2 out. Thanks for the view and question!!
@emiliollantino8431
@emiliollantino8431 Жыл бұрын
Equinox 900 has2 coils and waterproof 😊love to have one❤from 🇵🇭
@danblankenship5744
@danblankenship5744 Жыл бұрын
I have been searching through the literature Minelab has published for the output power of the Manticore and the Equinox 900. I easily found this information on the Nox-800 and many other models, but not for these new models. Did this information come included with your new machines? If so, can you send me those specifications? It's usually listed as either dBµA/m at 10m or dBm.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, you have to look close to find it but it is listed as follows: Manticore Freq 2.5 kHz to 143 kHz (Wireless Audio freq 2.4 kHz to 2.5 kHz +5dBm) exact same specs listed for Equinox 900 as well. Info was in a small discrete pamphlet called "Instructions and safety information". Watch my unboxing video on the 900 to see what the little grey pamphlet looks like. Lmk if you need anything else!
@danblankenship5744
@danblankenship5744 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic That info is talking about the power for the wireless headphones not the transmitted power to the coil. Here is what I found for the Minelab Equinox-800: < -30dBm This translates to
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
@@danblankenship5744 The chart has a whole separate page for the wireless audio. The machines all show
@danblankenship5744
@danblankenship5744 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic Thanks,
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
@@danblankenship5744 not surprised to see this as 30dBm is maximum allowable per FCC (less a max of 23dBm for make up gain in antennae systems). I'm not sure if FCC guidelines would deter a company from making a machine with specifications beyond this range, and if a company did, would it be allowed to be sold and/or even used here in the states? 🤔
@NEMOZAC
@NEMOZAC Жыл бұрын
I AM AN EQUINOX 800 OWNER ----- THE EXTRA $500 SAVED CAN BE SPENT ON A BIGGER COIL A HARNESS MONEY BETTER SPENT
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the 800 if you already have one. The coil issue and water leakage issues are a big deal for a lot of folks though so we have to keep that in mind. Also the price of your Equinox 800 is very close to the price of the Equinox 900 so many are selling their 800's to get the new 900 for piece of mind on both of the aforementioned issues as well as better performance, vibrating handle, detecting light on coil, not to mention the build quality is a HUGE improvement over the 800 as it's all carbon fiber and much lighter and stronger. There is always going to be a fascination with the newest gadget available! I feel comfortable recommending to all 800 users to upgrade to the 900 or Manticore, if they can afford it. Thanks for the view and comment!
@donaldlee6699
@donaldlee6699 Жыл бұрын
It appears impossible to compare the Manticore to any other metal detector. Is there another 2 D to compare it to? Currently I believe the Manticore is in the lead; notwithstanding, I do not believe the machine has been in the operators' hands long enough to determine the true potential. I believe within (6) six months I will have made a decision. By that time, I have not counted the Garrett out! There is a rumor they are coming out with a new machine? Technology has dominated the hobby exponentially in the past few years. One thing the manufacturers have learned: A hobbyist will spend the money for the technology! A channel I watch in the gold fields in Arizona the sponsor stated he had not seen such an increase in the hobby like it is now ever! Why: Inflation. Technology has increased the ratio to proportion increasing the probability of success in finding treasure? Facts: When anyone spends $1,600 (approximately) on a metal detector he cannot possibly be entertaining running outside with a metal detector to play in the dirt only to dig up rusty square nails, iron, beaver tails, 'can slaw' or whatever. That is not 'treasure'! Which metal detector on the market today has the best ability to circumvent digging trash? Possibly the Manticore?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes the Maticore is the little brother of the Minelab CTX-3030 which has always had the 2D. The design team borrowed many of the features from the CTX-3030 for the Manticore. I am genuinely excited about the Minelab Ultimate which will be the successor of the CTX-3030, it's still the flagship relic machine for Minelab. Thanks for the view and comment!
@slashmetaldetecting
@slashmetaldetecting Жыл бұрын
here i am watching this and you say your name i dont think we are related. but my son name is mark lol weird but i sub ya
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Hah, that must have blown your mind for a minute! Thank you kindly for the view and comment! For now I'll just consider you a cousin 😁
@John-lt7il
@John-lt7il Жыл бұрын
I’ve been hitting all the sites with my manticore that I pounded with my 800 over the past two weeks and have pulled deep silver coins every time. I’m still getting used to it because it’s different than my 800, but so far I’m quite impressed with it.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Same here!! It has shown to be a whole new look in the ground at some of my old, beat up sites! Thanks for the view and comment!
@andyfinley987
@andyfinley987 Жыл бұрын
Are you hunting in High Conductor mode?
@martinsmith2984
@martinsmith2984 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic More rubbish its no better than the 800. I have done side by side tests and every target the manticore signaled on so did the 800. Stop the bull shit...
@paulmartin3946
@paulmartin3946 Жыл бұрын
In the UK it works out over 850 dollars extra for the Manticore. Unless there is a big jump in performance the 900 is better value here in England. I've bought the 900 and very happy.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
So here at retail of $1,599 vs $1,099 that's about a difference of 32% more cost. Is that a similar percentage between the two even though it's 800 dollars more? Yes, you can't go wrong with the 900 honestly!!
@paulmartin3946
@paulmartin3946 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic Here in the UK the 900 is £1099 and the manticore is £1799 so 700 pounds equates to 850 bucks so a whopping 63% more.. We seem to get ripped off with most prices here. If that was the same in the US l wonder if people would pay 850 bucks more?
@bobskimaxx
@bobskimaxx Жыл бұрын
Believe me buddy, I could of brought the Manticore but the red screen on the 900 and the use of 3 coils sold it for me. 900 way better here in the UK!
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Great points on that, not to mention saving $500!! It's an awesome machine no doubt! Thank you for the view and for taking the time to leave a comment! 🤠
@Iflyone2
@Iflyone2 Жыл бұрын
Bought the CTX3030 when it first came out and never regretted it. Had the Manticore on order for a month now and last week cancelled it and bought the EQ900. Seems like a lot of back and forth between the two and I bet I will be very satisfied on what the 900 will do.
@tnsharpshooter8517
@tnsharpshooter8517 Жыл бұрын
I’ll help you out. I have had Manticore a long time. I am a youtuber. I tested Manticore prerelease. What are the differences in the field? Between the models. Depth on beach low conductors = Manticore. Modern trash performance looking for higher conductors = Manticore. These 2 things alone may be worth $500 one pays extra for Manticore. ID of deeper higher conductors running MF likely more stable on Manticore. Emi handling advantage Manticore. Coils being earless advantage Manticore. Both good units. Nice choices Minelab has provided.
@shaynescott
@shaynescott Ай бұрын
In Australia it’s not $500 difference,it’s double the price
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Ай бұрын
Yes I have had quite a few Aussies point that out to me here in the comment section below. Adds a whole different level of comparison at that price point. Firstly thank you for checking in from Australia! and secondly for taking the time to leave a comment!
@Vercingetorix58v.
@Vercingetorix58v. Жыл бұрын
The Manticore is much too expensive for what it really is compared to the Equinox 900 or the Deus2, many first comparison tests here on KZbin confirm that, there is nothing nice to talk about if Minelab does not significantly reduce the price it will be one zero number like the CTX 3030, which almost nobody in Europe bought because it was not only far too expensive but also far too heavy. Minelab hasn't really done its homework, why don't they finally come up with a cordless lightweight detector like the Deus and stick with the outdated corded tech? They might be able to sell their detectors well in Australia but here in Europe we need detectors that are designed for our search areas and not Australian ones and that counts especially for the price too!
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
These are all great valid points one thing I could say about the wireless technology is the type of system that XP uses is a patented system and no other manufacturer can use it because of this they would have to reinvent a whole new wireless system that does not infringe on that patent. I have to also really agree with the weight of the CTX 3030 compared to other machines, but 95% of all the incredible relics and gold in my collection came from the CTX. It was very expensive compared to other machines but and has also been incredible for me here in the California Gold Rush areas of the 1850's. The price point on the Manticore is right there with the price point of the XP Deus II so they should have to compete head-to-head. It's also tricky to make comparisons between a 9 inch coil and an 11 inch coil. To make any comparisons that make sense you would have to put the 11 x 13 coil on the D2 or wait for the 8 x 5.5 coil for the Manticore. But until then none of us should be making comparisons... IMHO. Thank you for the view and comment!
@MermaidTreasureHunter
@MermaidTreasureHunter Жыл бұрын
I picked the Manticore on December 20th. Still don’t have it. Bought the 900 in April while visiting Myrtle Beach, SC. I have over 200 hours on it now and I love, love it. Received confirmation from KellyCo that my Manticore is finally on it’s way (I live in Okinawa, Japan) and I can not wait to get my hands on that baby. If my wish could come true, I would want Minelab to merge the best of the two machines and make it waterproof to 20 meters and I would be in heaven!! Thanks for the comparison vid, this is my second time watching now that my Manticore is nearly here!!!
@ActinOut
@ActinOut 5 ай бұрын
Its weird to me that minelab does so much tradeoffs as the model increases from a previous one rather than just adding features. It would be soooo much easier to justify such an increased price if some features weren't dropped moving from the 900 to the manticore. IE you get better functioning with the 900 and lower noise cancel but pay $4-500 more and lose frequency but add noise cancel. When you reduce one and add the other, it just balances things out and doesn't really add anything overall. You start with a red light for night vision, but then drop the red light and add 3 levels of white light. Common, it's a cheap LED light that prob costs a nickle. Heck, they should have added 3 levels of red AND added 1 or 2 levels of white as part of their price justification... just to name a few. When increasing value to a next level product, you should NEVER take away a value feature ONLY add features otherwise youre only creating market product confusion as demonstrated by so many reviews trying to debate the question of which is better. If minelab had only added features for the manticore over and above those on the 900, all the reviews would just be raving about the advantages of the manticore and those who could afford the difference would just buy the manticore. Theyd still have plentiful sales of both, but there would be a clear unambiguous difference to justify a leap in price. It annoys people when companies play the switch out game instead of just adding to. And that brings more questions to a brand rather than increasing loyalty. Im sure minelab is doing just fine financially, but adding to rather than switching out would only make them better. And who would not prefer mo betta. If i get the manticore, I tell you for one, after the warranty, i'll be switching out the LED for a red one.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 5 ай бұрын
For the next month the Manticore and the Equinox 900 will be the same price they are discounting the Manticore by $500! But I do see your point here and I have never thought about it that way. It seems like they try to put some kind of a product into every different budget. I believe this is more about marketing than anything else. Thank you for the view and for your thought-provoking comment!
@serenitybase9888
@serenitybase9888 3 ай бұрын
for clarity, Giles in the UK who also was in the USA, had the Manticore weeks before you, as i saw your first video, which came 3 weeks after giles.... thought id mention as your information was fake news / false news /
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 3 ай бұрын
This could be true as the team of engineers that came to me from Minelab Australia stopped at 3 other cities before they made it to me in California. So I know there were others in possession of at least 3 machines. I also had the machine a few days before I even made a video. Most of my roles were related to the update testing (June 2023). Pretty sure I mentioned "in the USA" as well but its only fake news if I'm deliberately trying to deceive. Thanks for the view and comment!! Much appreciated
@SYKOK1LLER
@SYKOK1LLER 3 ай бұрын
Why did I watch that Minelab release trailer a few days ago? Now I want to get back into this coming from an Excalibur 2 that didn't get the proper use it deserved. Thought I was decided on the 900 but I'm a sucker for bells and whistles and since I don't buy multiple detectors at once feel I can justify the Manticore over the 900. The Excal is proven but I always felt MD design needed to be updated. These new ones are very nice. Maybe I can forget I saw that video for now? 😑
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Ай бұрын
Hah, this is the dilemma we all face!! I can assure you however that if you decide to get either of these you will have tremendous success and the machine will get used. Thank you for the view and comment!
@DavidPaxton-tj1wt
@DavidPaxton-tj1wt 3 ай бұрын
OK, great video! Just what I needed. I am stepping up from what basically is an amateur detector. So far it looks like I am going to have to budget an extra money. I do plan on playing at the beach and out in the desolate backwoods occasionally. But I have a need for a detector that apparently no one has tested for. Has anyone used either of these machines to find the location of pipes and electric wires in brick or CBC construction???
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 3 ай бұрын
The hobbyist side of metal detecting does not lend itself well to the type of detector that the construction industry would need where you're trying to detect/hear iron and subterranean pipes. In the hobby Market the machines are designed to ignore iron and try instead to hear High conductive materials like copper and silver or precious metals like gold and platinum. These are two different Technologies really. And this is why there are companies that make specialty detectors just for the construction industry. The Manticore and the Equinox 900 would both be fantastic in the woods and on the beach, with an advantage on depth in sand going to the Manticore. Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@qqtissue22ify
@qqtissue22ify Ай бұрын
For someone with little to no metal detecting experience what would have the easiest learning curve? Manticore or 900? Thanks.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Ай бұрын
That is a great point I should have talked about that and the video. The user interface on the Manticore is the best ever made by any company period and it is so easy to navigate through and understand it is a very ergonomic and predictable menu system period because of that alone I would say it's much easier to learn and make changes on. I feel like I should do a video just on what you said right here! Take a look at the description of all of my videos for a link to get a good discount on any new machines that you buy. Thank you for your view, comment and a great idea for a new video!
@TheMotodro4er
@TheMotodro4er Жыл бұрын
in my country the difference between these two machines is about 850$ 😟 How much cost both machines in your country?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Here they are $1,599 Manticore and $1,099 Equinox 900 (USA). Where is your country? Thanks for the view comment and question!
@TheMotodro4er
@TheMotodro4er Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic I am from Russia. Here they are about $1300 for the 900 Equinox and about $2150 for the Manticore, both with 3 years warranty.
@andysboxinggym4972
@andysboxinggym4972 Жыл бұрын
Well done. We been waiting for one just like that!
@thedoitalldad765
@thedoitalldad765 Жыл бұрын
I have looked at the Manticore, Nox 900 and D2. I have gone back and forth. Finally decided on the manticore and on the list to get one.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Such a tough decision!!! I have all 3 and I never know which one to take out!! 😛 But even with the CTX-3030 here I still prefer the Manticore just because of the very nice audio and tones. A bit better in heavy iron that the CTX as well. Congrats on getting one, hope you get it soon!! Thanks for the view and comment!
@raydunhill5160
@raydunhill5160 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Great comparison. I've owned them all! CTX ,2 800S 2 600S and Xcal! Love Minelab equipment but I'm a water hunter and go by tones not a screen! Manticore may seek a little deeper but how DEEP ARE YOU WILLING TO DID CHEST DEEP IN WATER? JUST ORDERED A 900 FOR THE SIMPLE REASON I WANT TO SEE IT SWIM AND NOT FLOOD!!! Main concern to me as in past 5yrs I spent 10k on Minelab Detectors with deffinitly a great return!!! BUT: DONT NEED ALL THE EXTRA BELLS AND WHISTLES!! I do believe Minelab created the Beast Manticore more for the coin and relic hunters? Thanks for a super comparison chart! Well appreciated!! 👍👍👍
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, very difficult to dig deep in the surf (where the trough is) in the rolling sand and rocks getting bounced around! Good point about that! Really can't go wrong either way! Congrats on your new 900, hope you get it asap!! Thank you for the view and very kind comments!
@pigeonbloodruby5330
@pigeonbloodruby5330 Жыл бұрын
I would think that you could dial the Manticore back on depth by increasing the Recovery Speed and lowering the Sensitivity?
@مهدیکلیوند-ص2ع
@مهدیکلیوند-ص2ع 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I am an Iranian. Do you think we should use Manticore or 900 for Iran's soil, which has a lot of salts and is very ancient?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't see either machine having an advantage over the other in your highly mineralized soil. I can only recommend the Manticore over the Equinox 900 due to some of the newer features from the June 2023 update. Either machine would be ideal for you! Thank you for watching the video and for taking the time to ask a good question like that from all the way across the world in Iran.
@bernardmagri6405
@bernardmagri6405 Жыл бұрын
Great video the best I have seen on Minelab products. I really like the way you explained all the different features for both machines. I will more then likely get the Manticore because I do more beach hunting then dirt. Thanks again for a great video.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
That's a great choice and I know you will find lot's of incredible treasures with it! Thank you for the kind words and for taking a time to leave a comment to let me know. Best of luck! Mark 🤠
@faronbrooks5695
@faronbrooks5695 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, thank you. You gave me so much information to help with this decision. Because I couldn't get enough information to compare the two together. I have narrowed it down to these two and now it's just one, the manitcore. If I plan to enjoy this retirement adventure, for hopefully ten years, I want to enjoy a great audio sound every time. Thank you once again Mark for your help with this decision. God bless you.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 8 ай бұрын
Your welcome! You chose a great machine that will serve you well for the years to come. Make sure you get a hold of that 8 1/2 by 5 1/2 in coil when you can it's a huge game changer on that machine. Thank you for the view, comment and the kind words!
@adrianmacguire4231
@adrianmacguire4231 4 ай бұрын
Give it 12 months be a new one out think I'll by pass manticore Stick with 800
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Ай бұрын
800 is still an incredible machine so not losing out on much. I own them all and right now I walk out the door with the Manticore with the new M9 coil on it. Absolutely formidable combo! Thank you for your view and comment!
@scrapiron6870
@scrapiron6870 Жыл бұрын
Brass, it has to killing minelab on sales with the manticore, it’s not even on the market in masses, many cancellations, that’s horrible, marketing was aweful, oh there’s parts issues really. Not saying it’s not a good machine but minelab can’t even get it on store shelves, so some bought deus 2 units, point is sales can’t be great for there top of the line machine at 1500.00, just say when is the thing going to be available, or am I missing to truth, shameful xp don’t have issues getting units out
@norwegianvikingexplorer
@norwegianvikingexplorer Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison video. I love the pitch tone from the NOKTA Makro the Legend, and the full tone on the XP Deus, does the Equinox 900 have pitch tone options? Or full tones like the Deus? I have the Minelab ctx3030 with 11” and 17” coils, and according to Minelab engineers the ctx if setup correctly is still the king of the production line, but it’s a heavy machinery compared to the Manticore, so I’ll stick with the ctx3030 for now, since I bought it in 2022….😊 Still learning that beast 😅
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Thank you, yes I completely agree CTX is still the king! It's the flagship machine over at Minelab and there is a new one coming hopefully this year called "Minelab Ultimate" it will replace the CTX-3030 but until then, if you can still swing this heavy detector, it will serve you well. 95% of all of the finds in my displays were found with the 3030, I had it out today in fact. The tonal options on Equinox 900 do have both full tones and adjustable pitch tone breaks as well. There is a tone setting that mimics what we have on the CTX that is called "Gain" so that you can hear depth as a softer volume. Nothing wrong with just keeping the CTX-3030 for now. Email me at my email in the description of this video and I will email you over my programs so you can use the Minelab Exchange2 computer software to upload my programs into your CTX-3030. Thank you for the view and questions!
@Troyhicks1322
@Troyhicks1322 Жыл бұрын
They both put out same power due to fcc rule
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, lot's of talk about that topic lately!! 😛
@karlbesser1696
@karlbesser1696 Жыл бұрын
With the Manti you can find garbage even more effectively. I am convinced of that. 😂
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
For now... You may be right. Digging a lot of iron, more than the 800 or the CTX so something is out of whack right now (January 2023). Thanks for the view and comment!
@allanh6667
@allanh6667 Жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed.... Good honest info without bias or fluff. Another channel I can binge watch and learn from. Happy hunting in 2023!
@Fullthrottlefriday
@Fullthrottlefriday Жыл бұрын
800 is the way to go you need any of that stuff just learn what your frequencys do
@davidfrazier1186
@davidfrazier1186 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Good Video ! I went with the 900.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Nice!! Good choice, hope you enjoy it and now it's time to head back into some of those older, beat up sites you thought were hunted out! Thanks for the view and comment!
@davidcoote4831
@davidcoote4831 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Interesting that you mentioned the depth guage. I have a NOX 800 but have previously used Garrett detectors and found their depth guages were always very accurate. The build quality has obviously improved - which it needed to - but I'll stick with the 800 for now as I would not buy a new detector until it has been out for at least a year, as all new models come out with some bugs in them.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for checking the video and for the comment! It's been a "Minelab thing" for a long time to have a small high conductor be more shallow than the depth gauge indicates, we're all used to it by now. So when I hear a sweet high tones that sounds like a deep coin but feels really small on what we call the "Minelab wiggle" and deep because deeper targets are softer in volume (one some detectors - on my CTX-3030 we the setting is called Gain), as soon as I check with the pinpointer and it the pinpointer goes off from the surface I know it's going to be smaller and shallow. But a couple clues were already there to peak my suspicion. It's all good though and I don't see it as a bad thing at all.
@jakebaxa
@jakebaxa 10 ай бұрын
I going to replace my e trac leaning towards manticore what’s your thoughts on that
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 10 ай бұрын
It's a huge upgrade in technology and construction/materials and oerformance. The Manticore is a GREAT machine and if you upgrade I highly recommend it. I loved using the Minelab Explorer, then switched to the e-trac until the CTX-3030 was born. I did better with the Explorer and CTX-3030 than I did with the e-trac. Thanks for the view and comment/question!
@Matthew-sz6vi
@Matthew-sz6vi Жыл бұрын
Made it:
@TimWallace-yi8ce
@TimWallace-yi8ce 3 ай бұрын
Which machine would be best at identifying nickels?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 3 ай бұрын
They would both be equally capable of detecting nickels that are deep in soil or sand. However I think the Manticore clhas an advantage on depth over the Equinox 900. Thank you for your view and for the comment/question!
@ifindit
@ifindit Жыл бұрын
Hey there, I’m a new subscriber and enjoy your videos a ton. I appreciate the time you’ve spent comparing these 2 machines. When I first heard Minelab was coming out with some new detectors I had all my fingers and toes cross that they would include the ability to pair a pin-pointer. I like to hear the pin-pointer over just the vibration but I don’t like everyone else having to put up with it when hunting in a group or just people in the area to hear it. Maybe next time. Keep up with great videos. Thanks!
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
That's a great point to bring up. First off, thank you sincerely for the kind words!! For some reason, Minelab has never made a pinpointer that paired to the machine. There was a 3rd party company that made an inline probe (pinpointer) that would engage the probe at the flick of a switch on the Minelab Explorer series machines. It was VERY popular and you would think that Minelab would realize that but so far this has not been a feature on any Minelab product. I'm sure they see it more valuable to just sell a pinpointer like the Pro-Find 35 that is disassociated from the circuit so it's a separate piece of equipment and therefore, technical support type issues just cover the smaller, more inexpensive pinpointer rather than the detector as part of the system. Who knows?? But there are many others who liked having that inline probe where you could hear the detector circuit in your headphones from the probe.
@Robert-fs1pb
@Robert-fs1pb 3 ай бұрын
I i think if i go better than the 900.I would go with the daued 2.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 3 ай бұрын
XP Deus ii is Avery popular and capable machine no doubt and can compete head to head with the Manticore in performance. I do prefer the menu system and the build quality, charging system on the Manticore over the Deus II. But I get it, price is a big factor too. Thank you for your view and comment!
@michaelnemmers2446
@michaelnemmers2446 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I like the 2-D screen. I also like having a better sounding musical audio tones.
@pomiller1972
@pomiller1972 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the 900, can't really find the manicure in the states right now
@DiggingItBack
@DiggingItBack Жыл бұрын
How well do you think the Excalibur 2, would do versus the Manticore. I currently use my Excalibur in the water and my Nox on the sand. Still waiting for the Manticore to come in. Would be an interesting comparison 🤔
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
I think firstly that if your talking about in the dry/wet sand, the Manticore is much more comfortable to swing and carry. I used to belt or chest mount my Excalibur 2 and have the cable dangling across to the shaft and coil which wasn't too bad but swinging the Excalibur and Excalibur 2 underwater or on dry or wet sand, made for a long day. So as far as comfort I think that's something to consider, the Manticore is WAY lighter! As far as performance at the beach the Manticore is going to be better as well. I think you could make a good case for selling you 800 and your Excalibur 2 and getting just the Manticore!! I do miss the sounds of the Excalibur in the surf on coins and jewelry though. Thank you for the view and comment/question!
@EmeraldCoastSandSifter
@EmeraldCoastSandSifter Жыл бұрын
Great review!! I’m a beach hunter and you have helped me make my mind up. But I was gonna go with the manticore anyways for the target trace. Thanks
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad it helped, definitely can't go wrong with the Manticore, can pay for itself pretty quick at the beach!! Thanks for the view and comment!
@serenitybase9888
@serenitybase9888 3 ай бұрын
manticore all day long. Its a NO brainer.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching the video!
@lawrenceandria7551
@lawrenceandria7551 Жыл бұрын
Hi mark . Great video I ended up with nox 900. Are the vdi numbers the same on manticore as the 900?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Awesome choice, I mean it's a win, win either way. Yes the numbers are the same as long as you have the same size coils on. Best of luck with the 900 and thank you for the view and question/comment!
@MartsTravel
@MartsTravel 2 ай бұрын
The manticore is a load better than the 900.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 2 ай бұрын
Yes it's better but most have to consider the price difference to make a choice. Thank you for watching and for leaving a comment, much appreciated!
@erikwestrheim804
@erikwestrheim804 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Mantocore it is then... If not stoped dead in the tracks by vacsine. This year is somthing to look forward too. Happy huntig everyone.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yikes, Manticore is a great choice! Happy hunting to you as well! Hope you have a great, healthy year! Thanks for checking in!
@jomon723
@jomon723 8 ай бұрын
They may say they don't look at the screen......They Look 👀
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 8 ай бұрын
Great point so true!
@markkus1134
@markkus1134 Жыл бұрын
Thanks the problem is availability there are no Manticores to buy so I had to get the 900 I can not wait so I’ll end up getting a manticore later down the road it’s kind of a stab in the back by minelab to say the manticore is the new detector coming then they make the 900 available first which makes no sense at all and upset a lot of peopl on the forums just my 2 cents
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Quite a few other comments that were exactly the same! I totally get it and would have done the same and I know how frustrating this is for all of my viewers! I will do you want of the first to know when they start shipping and quantities and I will let all of you guys know right away. Thank you for the view and comment!
@spookmore
@spookmore 11 ай бұрын
more down to performance,Manticore has the edge the rest BS
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 11 ай бұрын
When it comes to folks who just want pure capability with little or no concerns about "bells and whistle" type features . . . 100%!! Thanks for the view and comment!
@philtchap7261
@philtchap7261 Жыл бұрын
Well, they lost me with the proprietary Bluetooth. I just love to decide whether to use headphones, earbuds or bone induction headphones. They each have their particular application. So I guess I will be staying with the Equinox 800. Sorry, Minelab, your proprietary greed cost you this customer!
@scrapiron6870
@scrapiron6870 Жыл бұрын
It’s a serious question brass , 500 dollars there has to be a value to justify the price not cosmetic speaking, brass think 500 try to justify it thankyou, again 500 in performance
@leonardjackman354
@leonardjackman354 Жыл бұрын
Good honest review. Is there any difference in balance on either detector. Len
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Ooooh, GREAT Question!!! So after reading this, I got up and picked up both machines (had to put the 11" coil on the Equinox 900 to be fair) and tested them both. There is literally no difference whatsoever. If I had my eyes closed I wouldn't know which machine was in my hand if it wasn't for the difference in the front of the handles on the fingers. Thank you for the view and helpful question!!
@bennoah9780
@bennoah9780 8 ай бұрын
I have Nokta Legend and Manticore and I find Target Trace is unreliable overly complicated almost worthless gimmick compared to Legend. In my opinion Legend VDI is much much better. I find that clay soil is like kryptonite to manticore. It seems like the signal reflects off of clay like a mirror blinding itself. In my humble opinion, any detector that is so great that it requires someone to watch hours and hours of videos to try to get it to do what it is supposed to do is in itself a huge flaw when other detectors can do 95% of what is claimed the manticore can do for $1000 less money and one does not have to stare at an unreliable target trace trying to decide what it is saying or id it is telling the truth. I have both Legend and Manticore, and when I go detecting I have to decide, if I want to go hunting and play with a gizmo to see if maybe I can get something ,I bring the Manticore. If I want to just go actually find things, I bring the Legend. I like Manticore build quality and I really want to like its performance but I have not seen anything worth $1500 form it yet.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching the video. I appreciate your candor and opinions after having used both machines. This is useful information to many others as well so thank you for taking the time to post it, again much appreciated!
@Robert-fs1pb
@Robert-fs1pb 3 ай бұрын
In the clay single frequency works better.
@janusstark4259
@janusstark4259 2 ай бұрын
That's why i own a Tarsacci 😅😅
@finders-keepers1518
@finders-keepers1518 Жыл бұрын
That's a setback only being able to use their headphones.....especially with the current "shipping issues."
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wonder if it's just a marketing decision more than a performance issue? I also wonder how much tech support was utilized from Minelab from customers experiencing issues with pairing 3rd party headphones connecting with the Aptx Bluetooth technology in the Equinox 800? That could have been a factor too. Thank you for the view and comment!
@TarnishedCharm
@TarnishedCharm Жыл бұрын
Does the 900 and Manticore have the same target ID’s? If a penny rings up say an 80 on 900 will it be an 80 on Manticore also? Thanks!
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
I found that the ID's on the Manticore and Equinox 900 are Identical. Check multiple coins both clad and silver. Thank you for the view and comment!
@captnse
@captnse Жыл бұрын
Good video, Mark! I saw this paragraph in the Manticore user manual regarding low frequencies: “MANTICORE does not have a 4 kHz single frequency setting. Instead, the All Terrain High Conductors Search Mode provides a Multi‑IQ+ based mode that can achieve an operating frequency even lower than 4 kHz. This provides the benefits of a low frequency/high power mode for detection and discrimination of high conductors, while retaining the substantial benefits of Multi‑IQ+”. User Profiles: Correct me if I’m wrong here, but with regards to User Profiles on the Manticore: Based on the user manual, I found no way to actually save an entire user profile mode into memory (as you can on a Nox)…there’s special user selectable buttons you can assign a very limited number of operations (like ground balance, noise cancel, etc), but nothing that allows you to save an entire user mode…?? A note on Iron Bias….even though the Manticore doesn’t have the same iron bias settings as the Nox does, the Manticore has a highly user modifiable version of iron bias in the Ferrous Limits setting (Upper/Lower).
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan!! I think there is absolutely a huge benefit in being able to switch between Multi-IQ and a single frequency (Like 15kHz) to look at the 2D graph when trying to determine if Iron. I am going to make a video on this asap. So what I am finding is, when I have a target that I am suspicious might be iron and I see a high conductor hanging out over on the right half of the centerline over in the conductive side of the graph, when I switch to a single frequency like 15kHz I then see a hard left inflection from wrap spraying a blob hard left when it's a square nail. If I don't see that blob I'll try 5kHz and if it still looks good over on the right side where it's supposed to be, it's been a coin or desirable target! Not sure if 4kHz would be any better than 5kHz when doing this. But it's something that not everybody realizes . . . Minelab shows us the frequencies WE can choose from but the amount of simultaneous frequencies and exactly what frequencies they are are not the same as the ones we can choose from, and we will likely never know until someone analyzes them on an oscilloscope and publishes that info. As far as the User Profiles, that is correct. Unfortunately you can only choose Mode and designate it as a favorite. Then assign it to that custom User button that will access it with the push of a button, but it won't save even the local settings (let alone the global settings) to that custom button, it simply just switches it over to that Mode with the last settings you had on it. So your suspicion is correct, currently no way to do that. On Iron Bias . . yes, much more tunable and efficient iron bias with us having control over the upper and lower, no need for the Fe or F2 like the 800 had on the Manticore. Dang man, I am really hoping you get yours right away so we can get your feedback, I know you will get under the hood quick and figure out intricacies and how to get everything from the Manticore that's it's capable of! Thank you for the awesome comment and questions, and View!!
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
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@thomasalewine32
@thomasalewine32 7 ай бұрын
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@tabircavalentinvalentin7699
@tabircavalentinvalentin7699 24 күн бұрын
Hello what are you doing 😊
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 24 күн бұрын
Hello, Thank you for your view and comment!
@pigeonbloodruby5330
@pigeonbloodruby5330 Жыл бұрын
3 Tone, and 3-Region All Tones Request: My primary gold detecting strategy relies on 3-Tone Regions, no Discrimination Pattern, All Metal mode, no Ferrous Limits. A 3-Tone Regions does not exist. I want to hear the low, med, high tones clearly without interruption in all 3 Tone Regions, so that I might better understand my soil environment. Can you ask Minelab if they can they "ADD" 3 Tone, and 3-Region All Tones option! A 3 Tone Region is easily converted into a 2 Tone region by setting the volume to '0' on Tone Region 1. 3 Tone Regions allow us to create a clean sound pallet of Low - Med - High Tones. We are forced to “hack” the 5 Tone, and 5-Region All Tones, which will not give us a clean range of tones and pitch. We do not have the option of modifying the tone. Hacking the 5-Tone Region causes us to lose the low grunting tone of iron, and the highest tone in the 5th Tone Region. Below I provide instructions of how to hack the 5 Tone Regions to achieve a (pseudo 3 Tone Region). It's not perfect and it's definitely not for a beginner detectorist. The 2 Tone Regions appears to be a mental logic switch: (I dig it, I don't dig it). If Minelab can't provide us with a 3 Tone Region, ask them to get rid of the 2 Tone Region to make room for the 3 Tone, and 3-Region All Tones. As a 3 Tone Region can easily be converted and not mess up the sound of the tones! 3 Tone Regions 'Hack'/Workaround : Tone Region 1 Width: '0', Pitch: '1', Volume: '0'. Low-Tone Region 2 Width: 1 to 30, Pitch: 'up to you', Volume 'up to you'. Mid-Tone Region 3 Width: 11 to 60, Pitch: 'up to you', Volume 'up to you'. High-Tone Region 4 Width: 61 to 98, Pitch: 'up to you', Volume 'up to you'. Tone Region 5 Width: '99', Pitch: 'up to you', Volume: 'up to you'. By deactivating Region 1, done by setting Volume to '0', we'll hear 4 Tones. Region 5 with a VDI of '99' you'll hear it occasionally. Adjust the Pitch and Volume of Regions 5 to what works best for you. *Note this only works for Normal Audio Theme and Enhanced Audio theme, because they are the only two options that allow “Target Tones Enabled”. *Note I'm assuming that I can adjust the (Tone Region Width) to a single VDI value, eg '0' and '99'. I don't see in the operators manual where it say that we can't do that. If it's not possible to set an individual (Tone Region Width) value then choose (0 to 1) and (98 to 99). With this 'hack' you eliminated one tone region out of 5, leaving us with a rough but doable (I think?) 3 Tone Regions for low, med, and high tones. But we are missing the low tone iron grunt and the high tone, that's a big trade off to achieve a 3 Tone Region. We need 3 Tone, and 3-Region All Tones so we can hear clearly Low, Medium and High tones! Please let me know what you think of this feature request! Thank you. I'm going to send this to Calabash, Iffy Signals and Brass Medic, and anyone else who was a Manticore field tester. In hopes that you guys can form an opinion and bring a uniform voice to Minelab about this request.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Very interesting read, I see what your going for here! So just confirming your talking about gold rings, jewelry, etc and not gold nuggets? Great concept here and I will test this but if it's as you suggest there would be literally no reason for them to keep the 2 tone. I will absolutely bring this up. Did you run this by Tom Dankowski as well? Would be very interested in hearing his response and this is the exact kind of consulting he does with Minelab in the R&D phase. Let me try this and make sure I digest it completely but I am impressed with this concept!! Some of us don't "Need" this feature . . . most of us would benefit from it if it was there. I for one am used to hearing everything and I tend to run all of my machines wide open to hear everything made of metal and decide on my own if I want to dig it, however I completely understand I am a very small minority of the others who do this. Most all would prefer your strategy! Feel free to move this to email if you want. My email is in the description of all of my videos. Again, very impressed here!!! Thanks for the view and tip!
@pigeonbloodruby5330
@pigeonbloodruby5330 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic I should receive my Manticore tomorrow. So after becoming familiar with the detector, I'll either improve my argument or figure something out that I was not aware of, time will tell. Correct, I'm interested in gold rings and what I really want to target are the fine gold chains on a saltwater beach. I'm looking forward to using the M8 coil on the beach! 3-Regions: The upper 1/3 of the TID, I want the options to turn off the sound, barely hear it, notch it out or discriminate it, without it effecting the tone spectrum/range (grunt to high pitch) in the Region that I'm digging targets. I want my "I did it all" Region to have the full spectrum of sounds from the grunt Low, Mid to High pitch. And lastly either discriminate or notch out TID 0, without it effecting the tone spectrum/range (grunt to high pitch) in the Region that I'm digging targets. . Maybe there is something obvious that I'm not aware of at this time and it's possible not to alter the sound spectrum while discriminating and notching 2 of the 5 Regions, to achieve 3 Regions? I really don't want a Tone break in the "I dig it all" Region. It might be possible to get what I want with 1 Region using discrimination and notching. I have to test it to know. I'm very concerned about what is going on with the audio, especially after watching Calabash Ferrous Limit video. See my last comment at the bottom of this post. 3 Region Not for everyone: 3 Region isn't for everyone and it's not the only Region I'll be using. But after becoming aware of the Equinox to Manticore TID 3-Region TID mapping, it seems to be a strange omission. Maybe it means nothing? Paystreak Superfreak was complaining about the sound transition from one region to the next causing an additional sound aberration when the TID crossed between Regions. I wonder how many people use one region because of this audio transition aberration? Forum: I don't belong to any MD forums, so I don't have a way to communicate with Tom Dankowski. There are omissions that I have read about, that would have balanced the Manticore feature list/owners expectations. If you want the list let me know, this post is getting long winded. TID Mapping: I find it interesting that Minelab has mapped the TID of the Equinox to the Manticore in 3-Regions. I've calculated the Spread and percent of the three Minelab TID Regions to help show how they have redistributed the Equinox TID. This is what spurred me to question why 3 Regions was omitted. Three TID Regions of the Equinox mapped to the Manticore: Equinox TD and Spread: (0 to 13), (14 to 26), (27 to 39). TID Spread: 14, 13, 13. Percent of TID Range: 35%, 32.5%, 32.5% Manticore TID and Spread: (0 to 29), (30 to 82), (83 to 99). TID Spread: 30, 53, 17. Percent of TID Range: 30%, 53%, 17%. Change from Equinox: (-5%), (+20.5%), (-15.5%). Question for Tom Dankowski: What metal has Minelab normalized the Manticore TID scale too? My concern/interest is that the TID scale might not be linear. Pairing up the audio and three regions to the TID scale might be something to explore/exploit. If there is a software audio delineation relative to the TID scale I would like to know what it is. Below is a conductivity chart normalized to silver. I recall seeing Nickel 22.6, coming close to what I've seen on the Manticore TID ~25. If memory serves me, I think 150 yrs old C.W. lead TID ~52 and new lead TID ~44, they are no where near this silver normalized scale of 8.4. Is this the scale that Minelab is using? If not what conductivity scale is Minelab using to identify metals conductivity? Electrical Conductivity of Elements relative to Silver Silver 100.0 Copper 94.6 Gold 71.7 Aluminum 59.8 Beryllium 49.7 Calcium 47.3 Magnesium 35.9 Rhodium 33.5 Sodium 33.0 Barium 30.6 Tungsten 30.0 Molybdenum 29.7 Cobalt 27.3 Zinc 26.3 Nickel 22.6 Cadmium 21.9 Ruthenium 21.7 Cesium 20.0 Indium 18.4 Osmium 17.3 Lithium 17.1 Uranium 16.5 Manganese 15.8 Iron 15.8 Platinum 15.3 Palladium 15.1 Tin 14.6 Titanium 13.7 Iridium 13.5 Rubidium 12.4 Chromium 12.3 Tantalum 12.1 Steel 12.0 Thallium 9.8 Lead 8.4 Columbium 5.1 Vanadium 5.0 Arsenic 4.9 Antimony 3.6 Mercury 1.8 Bismuth 1.4 Tellurium 0.0 www.engineeringtoolbox.com/conductors-d_1381.html Question for Tom Dankowski: Ferrous Limits Mask Nonferrous Targets: I noticed on Calabash Ferrous Limits demonstration this week, how increasing the ferrous region will mask the audio of gold/silver target. I find it strange that Minelab would filter out the nonferrous audio? If possible and if it makes sense I would like to see that eliminated. Or am I not understanding something? MINELAB MANTICORE UPPER FERROUS LIMITS HOW DOES IT AFFECT UNMASKING? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e17QoHuPpLiAY6M Tks! and HH!
@johan081257
@johan081257 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice video Mark. Good explanation. Greetings from Holland👍
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your support and kind words! I'm happy to hear that the explanation was clear. Greetings from Northern California USA (Heart of the California Gold Rush of 1848) to Holland!
@metalsharxs
@metalsharxs 4 ай бұрын
Thank you sir, very helpful intel! I swing a 600 & am thinking about getting a gently used 900 from a buddy. He is asking $800 for it hence I’m debating it versus brand-new Legend. 👍
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Ай бұрын
That's a tough choice, it really depends on the tones and features of the two machines between the Equinox 900 and the Legend. Both are incredible machines. Your comment is a couple months old, wondering if you ended up choosing one or the other yet? 🤔 Thank you for your view and comment/question!
@jgdevoe
@jgdevoe Жыл бұрын
Ok, I have a 1 year old 800 but after seeing this I"m thinking of upgrading to the Manticore albeit very expensive. If I can sell the 800 then I'm good to upgrade. My question is since my son got me a 15" coil for the 800 for christmas will that work on the Manitcore? I'm out by one day of returning via Amazon the coil which is new so it seems I may be stuck.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
That's a tough one not being able to return the coil. The Manticore is a very significant upgrade over the 800 but mostly in the everything but performance! Better tones, better build, better menu system, better features. But when it comes to performance, it's not a huge difference. It's like having car that goes 100 mph and has leather reclining, heated seats, a really high end stereo system, HID anti-fog headlights, heated steering wheel, backup camera, etc. Or you have your old car that also goes 100 mph but gets a little worse gas mileage, older vinyl seats, no bells and whistles. Both cars are going to get you to your destination but one is going to be a much better ride! Hope this helps. Thanks for the view and comment!
@RussTNails-fw9ds
@RussTNails-fw9ds Жыл бұрын
Great to hear there is a small coil coming, with the sweet audio this will make it the one to go for in the future.Cant wait to get this coil🙂
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was pleased to hear that news and excited for the chance to try it one of these days. Cheers for the view and comment!
@butch3715
@butch3715 Жыл бұрын
I just took delivery of a Equinox 900, my first metal detector I've purchased since my White's unit that's 15 years old. So far I like the 900, although when I purchased it I wasn't even aware of the Manticore model and probably would have liked to have the 2D screen. I plan to eventually buy a higher end metal detector. I noticed that the price on the ML 3030 had dropped. Perhaps I'll wait to see what Minelab replaces the 3030 with. In any case, thanks for the great video!
@TheFattdragon
@TheFattdragon Жыл бұрын
Thinking its time for an upgrade form my old E trac. That target trace and sound similarity of the Manticore is a great selling point.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Rest assured that it is definitely an upgrade in many ways from the E-Trac, first and foremost there are nearly no parts left to repair e-tracs anymore. But yes that target trace is a great tool that we can use to our advantage! Hope you can make the upgrade. Best of luck! Thanks for the view and comment!
@scrapiron6870
@scrapiron6870 4 ай бұрын
Look given all the information available and the very many experts that do videos, some compensated users so be it. Sir I’m looking at performance only ,, NOT COSEMETIC SPEAKING. YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT 500.00 means in performance, weight, size, color has nothing to do with performance, same can be said for deus 2 vs master 6 puck version. So your best video to help users would be simply performing facts thanks
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 4 ай бұрын
I own both of these machines and I can truly appreciate your comment here. I do own every other modern metal detector made in the last 15 years,i have and do use them all. I often hunt side by side with my manticore versus the 900 in the hands of a family member. We get to compare signals quite a bit and I have many hours on both machines myself. The Manticore is a formidable machine with the M8 coil on it! Hands down more sensitive and deeper than the 900. However I will say that the 900 is better with Target ID stability. So when it comes down to Performance we have to Define what performance means is it stability it's going to get us more targets at the end of the day or depth? This video does talk about all the bells and whistles that are not as important including the incredible color display and user interface. Some will agree with you though that performances everything While others want all the bells and whistles it's just the way it is. I personally will agree with you on performance versus user features that don't translate to increased performance. (like a color screen). This video is pretty dated I feel like I should redo this video with a more modern opinion that is after the update has came out on the Manticore and with the new coil options for the Manticore including the M15, M8 and now the M9. Also worth noting last week the Manticore was on sale for $1,099 which is the same exact price as the $900! Thank you for watching the video for taking the time to leave a comment I truly appreciate it!
@murtagon4460
@murtagon4460 Жыл бұрын
wich is deeper man? And copareing with deus2 - what you tink is it better for deep targets (manticore)
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Well to be perfectly honest you would need to have the same size coils on. There is an 11 x 13 inch coil for the XP Deus II and I have it headed my way right now... as soon as it gets here I will do more testing head-to-head and let you guys know. We're all wondering the same thing though. Thanks for the view and comment.
@wisconsinwalter
@wisconsinwalter Жыл бұрын
Hey, good video! No one is covering whether either of these will use the water phones that the 800 used. I use my machine 50/50 water and land. So water phones are imperative. Also does the 800 coils fit the 900? Thanks again! I just found you and enjoyed the video
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes the waterproof headphones will work on both the Manticore and the Equinox 900. and the coils from the 800 do work on the 900 (including aftermarket like CoilTek). Unfortunately the waterproof headphones are a little hard to find right now, I am waiting for a set myself. Hopefully they get some more manufactured and shipped out soon. Thank you for the view and questions!
@guitawrizt
@guitawrizt Жыл бұрын
The revelation of the 900 Red Screen only pushed me to the Manticore.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Yes, like I said, it's an issue for me too! Thanks for the view and comment!!
@idigdaytona4478
@idigdaytona4478 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Manticore and really like the 2D screen . The only thing I didn't like was the hand grip . It has grooves and they tend to fill with moist sand. I wrapped my hand grip with self fusing silicone tape . It does like the deep targets . Cant wait for the water to warm up and get the depositors back out there swimming again .
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
What brand was the tape? Can you email me a picture of the tape you bought and like? My email is in all of my video descriptions! Thanks for the view and Great Tip!!
@idigdaytona4478
@idigdaytona4478 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic Its made by Permatex . Its great stuff. No glue , it just fuses to itself. Its available at most auto parts stores. Its very stretchy . As you unroll it you have to peel off the film that separates the wraps on the roll.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
@@idigdaytona4478 Awesome, thank you for the tip sounds like it should work perfectly. 🤠
@tomstevens1444
@tomstevens1444 Жыл бұрын
Yo Medic! Take a look at DetecctorBen's videos, he apparently uses some sort of attachment on his detector shaft to hold his camera on the right spot every time. Give it a go! Keep swingin & diggin.... T
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
I checked... That's cool, what a contraption, you can see it in the shadows sometimes. I like that view but I also do like that he switches his views up between that view and study cameras and keep it different perspectives. Thank you for the advice I can rig something up like that with all of my GoPro stuff.
@tomstevens1444
@tomstevens1444 Жыл бұрын
@@BrassMedic great! I look forward to seeing your vids with a new view.... T
@minelabaceh
@minelabaceh 9 ай бұрын
Salam detektor from minelab aceh
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 9 ай бұрын
Hello and thank you for the view and comment!
@jaredlaubach3582
@jaredlaubach3582 Жыл бұрын
Do you have an 800-900 comparison like this?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
No I don't but that's a great idea. However it would be a bit of a landslide favoring the 900 in every category (especially in build quality, features and reliability) except performance. Thank you for the view and comment!!
@dirt_tones
@dirt_tones Жыл бұрын
Don't worry yourself with that decision just buy the Deus2. Cheers 😁
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Great advice right there!! 🤠
@mezonpa
@mezonpa Жыл бұрын
Nice share my question is, it's making a lot of noise where there are high voltage energy cables, how can we adjust it, good explanation for monticore in advance, my respects man..
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
You can make sure you have the sensitivity set where you want it and the mode your going to be in, then hold the coil up at belt height and hold the noise cancel button in, watch carefully as it chooses channels, when you see the same channel repeating a few times let go and it should be able to overcome your EMI issue. Thank you for the view and question!!
@Troyhicks1322
@Troyhicks1322 Жыл бұрын
Bigger coil only alittle deeper
@josemanuelr.r.7916
@josemanuelr.r.7916 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, you explain it perfectly. In Spain the difference between the 900 and the manticore is approximately €800, would you say it is still worth spending €800 more? thank you. I add information, I don't use headphones and I detect mainly on the beach.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 11 ай бұрын
That is a big difference in price!! I wouldn't be so quick to suggest the Manticore over the 900 with that big of a cost difference . But like I said in the video, if you want that color screen, really easy to use menu system, better tones and far more adjustability, you may consider the Manticore, even at the price difference. Sorry I couldn't be more definitive but that is a VERY hard choice! As far as the beach and no headphones goes, neither would really have much of an advantage, I have seen a few different videos online where the Manticore is just a little more deep on coins at the beach over the 900. Thanks for the view and great question!
@GameKillerzCrew
@GameKillerzCrew Жыл бұрын
Do you have one for the Vanquish 540 compared to these more expensive models for someone starting out wondering if we should save up the extra money for the more expensive models or go with the cheaper? For all terrain (beach, woods, field, etc.).
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic 9 ай бұрын
Great question! So right off the bat I have to ask... Will you be using it in rain, mud or near water? If so, you definitely want to avoid the Vanquish 540 The prices are significantly different so it's not really a fair comparison as there are far more features on the Manticore and Equinox 900 compared to the Vanquish 540. Performance and depth of detection are quite better on the Manticore and Equinox 900. Thank you for the view and comment!
@scrapiron6870
@scrapiron6870 Жыл бұрын
Putting 3 coils out, what am I supposed to do put the coils on my broom, it’s sad can’t get the machine to market over 6 months waiting, he’ll they should refund people or pro rate for delaying this unit aweful marketing brass, can’t defend this
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right. I'm sitting here complaining that I don't have the 8x5.5 coil when most still don't even have the machine. I get it and it's absolutely frustrating no doubt. Many potential buyers and customers were turned away hard to XP due to this. We'll never know what went wrong but what ever it is seems to still be an issue with regards to both the machines and the coils. Still a fantastic machine but many will have already bought something else. I feel frustrated because I get all the emails asking me where to get a machine and I can't answer the tough questions.
@jessestone3915
@jessestone3915 Жыл бұрын
Best review of any detector I have seen well explained thks
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! What an awesome comment to see! 🙏🤠
@SPOOKYJJJ
@SPOOKYJJJ Жыл бұрын
I wish they improved the grip handle. The top of my hand always rubs on bottom of display :(
@pigeonbloodruby5330
@pigeonbloodruby5330 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can wrap some self bonding/fusing silicone tape/wrap around it? Search YT for examples.
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
They did improve it but not enough! I don't like the grip on the XP Deus 2 for the same reason, hands rides up the shaft till the webbing of you hand is hitting the bottom of the remote( RC). The beta version of the Equinox 800 in testing was way worse so we were telling them early that they need to address that issue. Thanks for the view and comment!
@VetforVets
@VetforVets Жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@diggindarrell
@diggindarrell Жыл бұрын
Mark, What happened to the coin video you had for the manticore ?
@BrassMedic
@BrassMedic Жыл бұрын
Not sure, let me check on that... I know it was a KZbin "short" video so maybe on my play lists it's in the shorts list. I'll go look though... Thanks for the view and question!
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