Miners Strike | Pit Closures | Strikes | Trade unions | Showdown at Cortonwood | TV Eye | 1984

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ThamesTv

ThamesTv

Күн бұрын

'TV Eye' reports from the pit that started the Miners Strike - Cortonwood in South Yorkshire. The Pit has 5 years worth of coal left - this would keep 850 miners in work. The coal board say that it is too costly to keep the pit open - the miners try to force the NCB to keep the pit open and went on strike.
Reporter: David Bellin
First shown: 05/04/1984
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@ecosseza4030
@ecosseza4030 Жыл бұрын
Why oh why do I expect the Rainbow theme tune to come on after hearing the Thames TV intro?
@jonathanleblanc2140
@jonathanleblanc2140 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ThamesTv, more 70s and 80s politics please!
@georgescuion428
@georgescuion428 2 жыл бұрын
Even do I’m not English, or living in England, I’m fascinated by this show
@zachjones6944
@zachjones6944 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgescuion428 Same!
@tropicalpalmtree
@tropicalpalmtree 2 жыл бұрын
The 1980's was such a gritty time.
@Shag471
@Shag471 2 жыл бұрын
In some areas, yes. These miners lived this type of life no matter what era they lived in. But most of 1980’s elsewhere was loud, colorful and very wild.
@LIJXFVKINBVY
@LIJXFVKINBVY Жыл бұрын
It's called the tory era.
@kevinwilde
@kevinwilde 6 ай бұрын
proud industry which should be prosperous and flourishing today providing worthwhile opportunities of employment likewise many more industries throughout Britain today. unfortunately the diabolical thatcher decided to empty her bowels on British manufacturing. hence the diabolical state of country today. coal is king thatcher the so called iron lady is dead and turned to rust mining communities still alive.
@DavidGreen-wp7ok
@DavidGreen-wp7ok 3 жыл бұрын
We were starving. Libya and Pittsburgh were our biggest supporters.
@redrobbo1896
@redrobbo1896 11 ай бұрын
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania?
@tombufford136
@tombufford136 Жыл бұрын
Lived in Sheffield at this time and without Newspaper reports , not much known of this. Sheffield was the most famous 'Steel' industry area in the World . Mining seems unsual operating in inner City areas. 'Ring Roads' take heavy road haulage away from the Center. I was invited to join a music evening in a city center venue with people I shared accommodation. A band from further North playing pleasant music, unexpectedly , during an 'interval' an unpretenious Man with an 'outside' Coat on, stood on the stage , if there was one. Then recited a poem, about this strike he was on. A good applause was given !
@michaelpyatt831
@michaelpyatt831 11 ай бұрын
Arthur scargill , the only man to start 1984 with a large union and small house and ended 1985 with a small union and a large house
@woodhousewoodhouse5952
@woodhousewoodhouse5952 7 ай бұрын
Miners at thorsby colliery did go on strike Not sure how many went out But there was only 80 men remained at the end I know this as ive got the plate they had made with all there names on 2 of them family members
@kane211
@kane211 3 жыл бұрын
Could never imagine cortonwood as a pit crazy am 30 and go there sometimes with my family shopping
@ianraybold3513
@ianraybold3513 11 ай бұрын
Crazy I could never imagine it as a shopping industrial estate 😮
@sfwplant
@sfwplant 3 ай бұрын
TV Eye was called TV Aye in Yorkshire.
@Sheffield_Steve
@Sheffield_Steve 9 ай бұрын
It's about high time Thames via it's current owners got themselves on Freeview/Freesat, etc. with its fine archive of programmes. It would probably be the only channel would ever get me consider going back watching linear TV and pay the licence fee! 👍 Maybe some kind of partnership with Talking Pictures TV? 🤔😉 First programme on the channel: Death on the Rock (Uncut) 👍👍
@VanlifewithAlan
@VanlifewithAlan 3 жыл бұрын
I come from a coal mining area, I remember the strike well. However I fail to see how a business that was losing GBP1.2bn per year could be maintained. I also dont see how coal not mined is 'lost to the nation', on the contrary, the opposite seems to be true. However I think this was a very fair report.
@anthonytindle5758
@anthonytindle5758 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with you Alan the mines struggled to get the coal out as you know and the government were buying it from Poland in bulk. My dad used to work in the workshops at Elsecar he got the option just before the strike to move down the road to cortonwood but didn't because they all knew it was about to close so rather than be out of work he stayed at Elsecar only to be made redundant after the strike. So I think it was a waste of time stopping at a pit that closed without prior warning from the office.
@rikboswell
@rikboswell Жыл бұрын
You wern,t a miner
@martincowling6562
@martincowling6562 3 жыл бұрын
This legacy will still live on in the next generation if the schools do the likes of history of coal mining as this kind of topic is lacking so the kids of today know what it was like working and striking , specially working down a deep coal mine
@MarshalTriumph-p1h
@MarshalTriumph-p1h 5 күн бұрын
A work colleague of mine once told me that his brother had bought his house outright on the overtime and other allowances he was on during the miners strike. His job?...A Lancashire Constabulary Police Officer.
@duncanbrown8150
@duncanbrown8150 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting and thought provoking documentary of its time. The NUM officials Jack Taylor and Mick Carter, had raise some serious issues about the future of the coal industry, and the welfare of the miners and their families.
@flalingbashers2957
@flalingbashers2957 3 жыл бұрын
Mick Carter a true Gent 🙏
@juliandavies1974
@juliandavies1974 11 ай бұрын
2:50 send the video back, and may have to send the tele back. And i was always told people saved and bought things back then.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 11 ай бұрын
The coal industry had steadily declined since 1910. Nobody wanted British coal when they could buy coal much more cheaply from China and elsewhere. Coal mining in the UK would have ended anyway due to the Climate Change Act.
@elnotisimo
@elnotisimo 2 күн бұрын
Do you know the word tariffs? Today it's quite fashionable now.
@humbleguy4726
@humbleguy4726 2 жыл бұрын
I was a miner and stood firm with my brother miners for all the duration of the strike. People may say i was a fool but when that bond is made with others then we stand or fall together. I knew hardship as did my family and my then wife showed her true colours by deciding to leave after just 6 months of the strike. Many suffered more than this by being threatened by the banks to take their house from them for non payment of mortgage, mental health issues, starvation..........the list is endless. All i can say is this..............i do not, nor never will regret my decision to stand by my brother miners who saw the strike through. If people think Thatcher broke us then they need to think again. I would rather have died a thousand times than knelt before Thatcher.
@patriciacollier128
@patriciacollier128 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for all you went through. So glad you never regretted the decision to stand by your brothers, your an inspiration. I'm a woman and my husband knows I'm all for the workers and Solidarity to all who feel they have no other option but to strike. I'm part of The People's Assembly and fully support the RMT and pain them a visit on a picket in Manchester. Solidarity ✊
@Slamagotchi
@Slamagotchi 2 жыл бұрын
@Bessie Hillum bigot comment
@Slamagotchi
@Slamagotchi 2 жыл бұрын
@Bessie Hillum haha the bigot comment was in regards to what you said about women, bigot. I know all those proposals regarding trade union legislation, they are all bad. Union power is the only way that labour can actually fight for any kind of rights and you and i both know that its just going to suppress any kind of working class voice anymore, but thats what youre in favour of so good for you??? (I dont actually know why you bought it up or what you want me to say about that??) All ill say on that is this - the right to strike and industrial action is a pillar of a democratic and liberal society. When you take away the tiny amount of rights that working people have, you create authoritarian rule. I could care less if you know me or not, youre still a bigot. Say that to more women, i hope more people call you a bigot.
@tonytomlinson5869
@tonytomlinson5869 2 жыл бұрын
Get over it.
@humbleguy4726
@humbleguy4726 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonytomlinson5869 guess you were not involved much if at all
@briansparks8528
@briansparks8528 4 жыл бұрын
Yup they all got shafted in the end
@andrewh5457
@andrewh5457 3 жыл бұрын
While scargill went on to be a millionaire.
@TheGuitarist36
@TheGuitarist36 2 жыл бұрын
13:00 typical bloody Cortina
@muckle8
@muckle8 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant cars
@igolfjtweetler4097
@igolfjtweetler4097 10 күн бұрын
Mistake to say 5 years more work and then take it away. That's on the ncb but ultimately both sides wanted a showdown.
@nothingtosee7718
@nothingtosee7718 Ай бұрын
Arthur Scargill not only killed a whole industry, but whole communities. Unions are the worst thing we’ve ever seen.
@Thepalpatineboys77
@Thepalpatineboys77 20 күн бұрын
Rubbish, the pits would have been closed a hell of a lot sooner with no Union, and the wages would have been diabolical!
@nothingtosee7718
@nothingtosee7718 20 күн бұрын
@ the union killed the pits, grow up. They were never in it to help the miners or improve things. He got a great living off the backs of miners and you defend the pirate! Without the unions we would still have a mining industry and that’s undisputed.
@Thepalpatineboys77
@Thepalpatineboys77 19 күн бұрын
@ cool it with the hostility, the government destroyed the mining industry end of story
@nothingtosee7718
@nothingtosee7718 19 күн бұрын
@ it’s without dispute, the unions did that for you. “Not a single pit will close”. It was complete suicide, even a lunatic would have known that wasn’t possible. Would you goto work for a week for less pay than it cost you to live! No… History is clear, even if you’re not with what transpired. Scargill was a socialist and support of USSR. He refused to condemn the USSR for shooting down flight 007, he had a running vendetta against head office staff. The NUM had previously held three ballots on a national strike, all of which rejected the proposal: 55% voted against in January 1982, and 61% voted against in both October 1982 and March 1983. Robert Taylor depicts Scargill as an 'industrial Napoleon' who called a strike 'at the wrong time' on the 'wrong issue', and adopted strategies and tactics that were 'impossibilist', with 'an inflexible list of extravagant non-negotiable demands' that amounted to 'reckless adventurism' that was 'a dangerous, self-defeating delusion You want to blame someone for the mines closing, blame the right person - “Scargill” Arthur Scargill brought coalmining to a close in Britain far faster than would have happened had the NUM been led by some else. He should payback all the money and apologise to the miners.
@ropaul8006
@ropaul8006 Жыл бұрын
A country that longer exists
@Gigachad-mc5qz
@Gigachad-mc5qz 7 ай бұрын
fucking love unions
@TerenceDoherty
@TerenceDoherty 9 ай бұрын
We backed em at Barrow Colliery, because we weren't prepared to go to work and leave our workmates at the end of the lane, with no money or future.
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know you look at this and you almost think you’re looking at the aftermath it looks so grim bleak and hard and dark
@Myndir
@Myndir Жыл бұрын
That's South Yorkshire for you.
@ianraybold3513
@ianraybold3513 11 ай бұрын
To me it is nostalgic, controversially and ironically the pits closures put 25 years on my dad's life due to better health choices.
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 11 ай бұрын
@@ianraybold3513 possibly
@kane211
@kane211 3 жыл бұрын
My family history on both sides of my family tree all way back to 1700s worked bits 🤣 Barnsley
@Jim-ok9zi
@Jim-ok9zi 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it ironic that the greatest threat to the coal industry in Australia ( I’m from Australia) is from the Australian labor party. Yes that labor party that was supposed to represent workers. The Australian labor party has been taken over by progressive greens. It long ago lost its industrial base. What happened in the coal industry in Britain is going to happen in Australia if the labor party ever win national government.
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 3 жыл бұрын
What is going to happen in Australia is the same as Britain because nobody is going to want your coal not even the Indians and Chinese, the stone age did not end because we ran out of stone, in the same way the coal age is ending because we have better sources of energy now.
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 3 жыл бұрын
Labour closed more mines than the Tories
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 3 жыл бұрын
Some poor people built a house and they called it the labour party they lived in the house for a short while but pretty soon squatters moved in from the universities from the intellectuals from the middle-class -they put the poor people into the basement they keep them down there they let them out to vote just to keep the house standing
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamariss2111 you’re living in cloud cuckoo land even if you write a good story
@Jim-ok9zi
@Jim-ok9zi 3 жыл бұрын
@@KKTR3 g You’ve summed it up perfectly. 👍
@teresapritchett3967
@teresapritchett3967 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla model 4 at 2:30 🤣
@cosmos7492
@cosmos7492 5 ай бұрын
That was Ernie Fastest Milkman In Yorkshire lol
@fishermansid8861
@fishermansid8861 2 жыл бұрын
Brampton, Twangor Mick Claydon Paul Fitzpatrick Peter jolly 🙏 Mick Auckland
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 11 ай бұрын
Scargill destroyed the NUM by starting a fight he could not win.
@MrDodgedollar
@MrDodgedollar 11 ай бұрын
The Crazy UK! Where is the common cause, Common Strategy and Common Sense? Here we are in 2024 with the Crazy anti fossil fuels as National Policy. We had a Power Generation Body Called the Central Electricity Generating Board.. along with the Energy Secretary back in 84. The strategy should be formed from Balance/ Security and Economics as well as environment. and every interested party should be around the table including the Unions .. IT was Crazy to have 100’s of pits that were small/ exhausted and uneconomic. IT was Crazy to shut the whole Coal industry down and “Dash for Gas” -Stupid on Both counts. We as a nation were well down the road to Carbon Capture Technology for coal burning. Safety needed to be drastically improved to for the remaining Miners but it was doable! Why do we go for Irrational decisions in this country lately We are Mad
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw 11 ай бұрын
@@MrDodgedollar The coal industry had steadily declined since 1910. Nobody wanted British coal when they could buy coal much more cheaply from China and elsewhere. Coal mining in the UK would have ended anyway due to the Climate Change Act.
@MrDodgedollar
@MrDodgedollar 11 ай бұрын
@@JamesRichards-mj9kwWhich Amounts to diverting Tax payers money into Energy subsidies.. My point is Energy is a Business that is the life blood of any modern economy .. In fact a third world economy too. The British government is simultaneously restricting supply, subsiding a pig in a poke… and we indirectly chopping down the worlds forests to burn in power stations.. Indirectly tearing into the earth ( Mining ironically) to get at precision metals and lithium pits with no environmental standards and child labourers! All because the people making these decisions have a degree in politics philosophy and economics; no profession, Never had a proper job and are pig ignorant!- Fact
@muckle8
@muckle8 6 ай бұрын
@JamesRichards no way in hell it’s cheaper. , that’s political spin bs
@muckle8
@muckle8 6 ай бұрын
@Mrdodgedollar carbon capture green zero bs - a lefty money tax scam on the working man . Nothing less.
@TerenceDoherty
@TerenceDoherty 8 ай бұрын
The coal board did the dirty on the men that transferred from Elsecar Colliery, they were just spoiling for a fight.
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 3 жыл бұрын
Reserves of 1,000,400 tons of coal is enough to power 700,000 households for one year
@_Ben4810
@_Ben4810 10 ай бұрын
Firstly those reserves are of coking coal, & at a loss of £13 per tonne (in 1984 prices) the right decision was made to leave it where it was unmined...
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 10 ай бұрын
@@_Ben4810 😎£€$¥ There is more to life
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 10 ай бұрын
@@_Ben4810 I checked it is 2 hours ago you said - that the electricity company says I owe them £4K the gas people say I’m upto date at the moment having them paid them £2700 last year . And yes that is all today March 2024
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 10 ай бұрын
@@_Ben4810 and your point is ? Coking coal can make electricity, and the price difference changes. But it’s not just the price on the tin , if you don’t keep the beans in tin , it’s still going to cost to feed the people something else
@_Ben4810
@_Ben4810 10 ай бұрын
"But it's not just the price on the tin" 🤣🤣🤣 So you buy your beans at Harrods to safeguard the community of Knightsbridge...???🙄🙄🙄
@diggmore1362
@diggmore1362 4 жыл бұрын
I was a teenager when this was happening with out a clue as to what I would do after school. I got an engineering apprenticeship as a toolmaker for a die casting foundry. Fast forward thirty six years and the foundry has closed and the site cleared they lost a lot of contracts to EU country’s
@diggmore1362
@diggmore1362 4 жыл бұрын
They were undercut by EU country’s and the cost of materials ie aluminium was high and allso electricity prices went through the roof and it was hard for them to get electricity at a competitive price from there supplier. To melt aluminium uses an enormous amount of electricity
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 4 жыл бұрын
@@diggmore1362 the answers are much deeper than that. British industry has been in decline since the 1800s. undercut? No. The fact is that we prices ourselves out of markets because we were so inefficient and, as James Callaghan said, "paying ourselves more than the value of what we produce". Even now, the average British worker is 20% less efficient than the average German. The reasons lie deep in our culture. Chronic underinvestment, appalling levels of skills and education in both workers and management, short termism and an inherent conservatism that means we are very slow to adopt new methods and move into new industries. Andrew Carnegie, the American steel magnet, said over 120 years ago "The reason why America and Germany is making Britain a back number is because Britain is still using machinery and methods that are 20 years out of date."
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 4 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid the problem is a lot older than the EU. The answers are much deeper than that. British industry has been in decline since the 1800s. The fact is that we priced ourselves out of markets because we were so inefficient and, as James Callaghan said, "paying ourselves more than the value of what we produce". Even now, the average British worker is 20% less efficient than the average German. The reasons lie deep in our culture. Chronic underinvestment, appalling levels of skills and education in both workers and management, short termism and an inherent conservatism that means we are very slow to adopt new methods and move into new industries. Andrew Carnegie, the American steel magnet, said over 120 years ago "The reason why America and Germany are making Britain a back number is because Britain is still using machinery and methods that are 20 years out of date."
@diggmore1362
@diggmore1362 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeddeka one of the things that I was saying in my first comment was that as a teenager in the early 1980s with the industrial decline and then miners strike was how was I ever going to get a job . The foundry that I worked at survived to 2010 it closed with about 100 employees. I had moved on about 18 years before. They could not compete with other company’s. what did not help is that as part of a group of foundry’s they had been stripped of investment in latter years
@Spookieham
@Spookieham 4 жыл бұрын
Fast forward to 2021 and ask yourself why anyone would want to work down a coal mine anymore. Hard graft and an early death from silicosis.
@TomBartram-b1c
@TomBartram-b1c 2 жыл бұрын
Back THEN, middle class lefties proudly placed Cole Not Dole stickers in their Volvos' rear windows and NOW they haven't just joined the anti Coal lobby - they act like they invented it! Oh the irony.
@Otaku155
@Otaku155 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing we need to understand about the 1984 strike is that it was blatantly illegal, and that it was an extreme departure from established NCB procedure and precedent. This is a classic example of what can happen when a union simply becomes too powerful.
@liverpoolscottish6430
@liverpoolscottish6430 Жыл бұрын
Mrs T gave them a good hiding. Miners were complete fools to be led by the nose by Scargill. The strike was *ILLEGAL* that's all that matters.
@leer798
@leer798 Жыл бұрын
Sheep lead up the garden path by Scargill He did alright out of it !
@andrewh5457
@andrewh5457 Жыл бұрын
Calling a strike, with coal stocks at record level, without a national ballot, and in the summer, it makes you wonder who Scargill was working for, it definitely wasn't the miners.
@manatee2500
@manatee2500 4 жыл бұрын
No Basshead
@UncleBoratagain
@UncleBoratagain 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather moved from Wales to Yorkshire before WW2 due pit closure (geological), worked for a time in Yorkshire then quit due awful health: started a small carpet shop and never looked back. The cult of anger towards Thatcher nearly 40 years after ‘84 needs a rethink.
@yorky115
@yorky115 3 жыл бұрын
Well how do people like your grandad sell carpets if nobody has a livelihood? Thatcher replaced jobs with welfare and Major created the underclass monster that we have today. Full employment replaced with sink estates, drugs and crime, all thanks to your lady friend Thatcher and the puppet masters that used her to end full employment in the UK.
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 3 жыл бұрын
Labour closed more mines than the Tories
@yorky115
@yorky115 3 жыл бұрын
@@At_the_races Okay, so how do people sustain a meaningful existence without a livelihood? The mines were in decline, but what were they replaced with? Full employment was abolished and replaced with sporadic employment, self-employment and welfare. So where there was once a community of working people, is now a mass underclass littered with degradation, carelessness, violence and crime. Society gets fragmented and the wealth gap gets bigger and bigger...
@yorky115
@yorky115 3 жыл бұрын
@@At_the_races Thanks for your neo-liberal history lesson pal, but again livelihoods were taken away from 1979 onwards and replaced with nothing but a fragmented monopoly free market that sent large private industries overseas for the cheap labour and sub-contracted national industries into skeleton crew workforces. Creating a wider wealth gap of the have's and have not's and a whole new underclass problem, that will eventually effect everyone. Do you want to see more cutbacks, more policing cutbacks, unsafe streets, more rioting and more societal deterioration? Then you should keep worshipping thatcherite nonsense and greed, but some of us want to see a more equal society and where nobody needs to be a c**t.
@yorky115
@yorky115 3 жыл бұрын
@@At_the_races lol listen, when the rioting kicks off and the shit hits the fan, which it will do... show yourself and I'd love to come meet ya :)
@michaelsalt4565
@michaelsalt4565 4 жыл бұрын
No future for coal, the mines had to close just a case how that should be achieved. Scargill led the miners over a cliff edge.
@jerrytugable
@jerrytugable 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Saul We are still using coal, but now we are importing poor quality coal from distant countries, so there obviously *was* a future for coal...
@michaelsalt4565
@michaelsalt4565 4 жыл бұрын
@@jerrytugable yes we are still using coal. The NUM position was that coal should be mined regardless of cost and demand. That position is economically unsustainable. The option should have been a managed decline which allowed the miners and communities they lived in to move to new employment. Of course the NUM was opposed to that it was a politically motivated strike to bring down a democratically elected government. Thankfully the NUM failed and the miners paid the price for that failure, so blame the NUM for that
@michaelsalt4565
@michaelsalt4565 4 жыл бұрын
@@CashelOConnolly On 19 April 1984 a Special National Delegate Conference was held where there was a vote whether to hold a national ballot or not. Scargill was opposed to a national ballot as he feared he would lose the vote. So to say Scargill voted against the strike is ridiculous
@jonathanleblanc2140
@jonathanleblanc2140 4 жыл бұрын
@@CashelOConnolly want to try that again?
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 4 жыл бұрын
@@jerrytugable the amounts we use are tiny and ever decreasing. The reason we import it is because the stuff that was still in the UK was largely too expensive to mine out. Long before Thatcher, the British tax payer was having to subsidise coal production because it was so expensive. Coal is not like a crop. It doesn't grow back. Once it's gone, it's gone. If anything, it's the failure of many successive governments. They knew for decades that bit by bit, coal would have to be closed down. And yet they did nothing to plan for the future after that.
@michaelsalt4565
@michaelsalt4565 4 жыл бұрын
UK demand for coal peaked in 1913 and has been in decline ever since. To demand coal be dug as long as it exists regardless of cost and demand is the economics of the madhouse. As the world changes then we have to change with time it
@alfielisles6097
@alfielisles6097 3 жыл бұрын
The sheer ignorance of this comment - peoples lives and lively hoods at stake, hell a way of life even. Peoples lives are worth more than economic prosperity for the upper class torys.
@michaelsalt4565
@michaelsalt4565 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfielisles6097 you think we should still be mining coal in huge quantities for what purpose given that no one will buy it?
@alfielisles6097
@alfielisles6097 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsalt4565 people do buy it, or did still at least back then. Coal was cheaper imported and still is from China than to dig it out of the ground here. That being said we speak enough nower days of protecting british industry, so why not back then? between 1979 and 81 2 million people lost their jobs in industry with a catastrophic impact on peoples lives inducuing mass poverty! Plus if we look at todays politics it could be said that the less interaction and trade done with china the better.
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsalt4565 should be powering our coal stations and giving the working-class people good jobs mining coal/if the UK ceased to exist overnight if the whole place disappeared along with any global warming affect which is generated by the United Kingdom within seven months China would’ve taken up all of that deficit-we are pissing in a pot as regard to global warming caused by Britain and yet you’re putting the poorest people in fuel Poverty and ripping out working class jobs
@ianhoward4246
@ianhoward4246 3 жыл бұрын
That's sounds about right but I think it was the way Thatcher ( tories)did everything with that fxxx you and die sort of attutude!!!
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 3 жыл бұрын
If the market is paying £47 a ton and its costing £60 a ton to produce going on strike achieves nothing other than making the pit closure happen all the quicker.
@jasinere35
@jasinere35 3 жыл бұрын
try saying that to scargill which i already have it simply falls on deaf ears & he still claims he won when all he actually did was help thatcher with the closures so the 84 strikes were for nothing cos 38 years onwards not one pit is in production cortonwood is now a retail park & just about all of them demolished
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasinere35 I am glad then it was a victory, because imaginechow bad a Scargill defeat would have looked like then!
@123sammywoo
@123sammywoo 3 жыл бұрын
We now import 6.5 million tonnes of coal a year
@KKTR3
@KKTR3 3 жыл бұрын
And Dole was 15 quid it said so your mathematics at two quid are on the wrong side of the fence straight away regardless of anything else
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 3 жыл бұрын
@@KKTR3 Errr, Only if a mine produces just one ton of coal per miner per week!
@jamesfordjhfcontractingltd1627
@jamesfordjhfcontractingltd1627 Жыл бұрын
Shut it down lad
@rapman5363
@rapman5363 Жыл бұрын
Pip Pip Cheerio Bob’s your Uncle
@stevenstratton4785
@stevenstratton4785 4 жыл бұрын
Old Reggie Bosanquet..
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 4 жыл бұрын
No it’s not! It’s Sir Alastair Burnet. Look up his images
@alunhughes2632
@alunhughes2632 2 жыл бұрын
South Wales had come out on strike to fight against the closer of Lewis Merthyr colliery the year before and the backing from the English coalfields was very limited.
@jasonallen9144
@jasonallen9144 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t see any Welsh miners in this documentary being supportive either.
@alunhughes2632
@alunhughes2632 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonallen9144 Don't have a go at the Welsh boys, Jason. We had been out on strike the year before and received very little backing from the English coalfields. Now they were asking us for help, why should we ?. But we did , and at the end when we all went back, South Wales still had 93% out on strike, more than any English region.
@jasonallen9144
@jasonallen9144 2 жыл бұрын
@@alunhughes2632 Don't slag off the English FFS it seems like any excuse to have a go at us. There were Scottish miners too.
@alunhughes2632
@alunhughes2632 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonallen9144 Wasn't having a go at the English boys Jason, there were only two kinds of miners in the 84/85 strike, striking miners and scabs.
@andrewh5457
@andrewh5457 Жыл бұрын
​@alunhughes2632 There wouldn't have been any scabs if Scargill hadn't been working for Maggie, why would anyone, with the miners interest at heart, call a strike, with coal stocks at record high, without a national ballot and in the summer.
@dcarter3921
@dcarter3921 3 жыл бұрын
Like the COVID checkpoints. If they simply had of said they are visiting family or make some crap up, they would have went through.
@wythenshawekid1597
@wythenshawekid1597 4 жыл бұрын
Sent the porno machine bk no way💯
@TeaBiscuits-e1n
@TeaBiscuits-e1n Жыл бұрын
Boom times today if you're a Chinese coal power generator worker!
@evolvedmindset4163
@evolvedmindset4163 4 жыл бұрын
192nd
@LIJXFVKINBVY
@LIJXFVKINBVY Жыл бұрын
This is what Brexit Conservative Britain looks like. Nothing has changed since the tories have been in charge again. Everyone going on strike because they left the EU. You thought this would never happen again, but it did just 32 years later.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw
@JamesRichards-mj9kw Жыл бұрын
Labour caused Brexit.
@LIJXFVKINBVY
@LIJXFVKINBVY 9 ай бұрын
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw And David Cameron LOVES SHOWING HIS ID CARD TO THE EU! NOT!
@debihar4945
@debihar4945 3 жыл бұрын
Maggie was always in charge of the strike, cool calculating smart ruthless lady,,The Iron Lady crushed them.
@martinjenkins5471
@martinjenkins5471 3 жыл бұрын
She was tough, heath caved in. You wonder who the woman was. He was a waste of space for a Tory, As piss weak as labour. You vote Tory for strong leadership and make the tough decisions. People pick on Maggie but someone had get the .uk going again. It was a joke in the 70s.
@beewisebeestronger6224
@beewisebeestronger6224 3 жыл бұрын
@@martinjenkins5471 and now we import all our coal to run the last couple of coal powerstations left , amid daily gas price increases due to the market 🤣 at the mercy of a dictator in the kremlin
@jurassicchrist
@jurassicchrist 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinjenkins5471 if you wanna see what a Tory world looks like look outside in 2022
@richardwager283
@richardwager283 4 жыл бұрын
First 👾
@manatee2500
@manatee2500 4 жыл бұрын
Almost 1st
@richardwager283
@richardwager283 4 жыл бұрын
@@manatee2500 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@jamesford4750
@jamesford4750 2 жыл бұрын
It was the best thing mrs thatcher did was to close the coal mines, a great lady
@fishermansid8861
@fishermansid8861 2 жыл бұрын
Really have ya seen price of utilities bills lately.
@kennethburton2269
@kennethburton2269 2 жыл бұрын
@@fishermansid8861 LMFAO
@michealgibson91
@michealgibson91 2 жыл бұрын
How many people are going to die, because can't heat their homes this winter. Let's blame Putin? . think about it.
@allwrighty100
@allwrighty100 2 жыл бұрын
Troll much James?
@jamesfordjhfcontractingltd1627
@jamesfordjhfcontractingltd1627 2 жыл бұрын
@@allwrighty100 nowt down pit bottom lad
@chriscars3578
@chriscars3578 Жыл бұрын
It was a total joke what this government did with all the coal mines. After I finished working in the coal industry I worked with a company that sealed off a new mine in wales that have never turned a bit of coal out of it utter joke
@BlackRose-vi2yg
@BlackRose-vi2yg 9 ай бұрын
It's good. Coal is environmental disaster
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