MINI Cooper JCW - The Chuckwagon - TestDrive | Everyday Driver

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2 жыл бұрын

Even though MINI continues to reinvent itself, their flagship hot hatch is still one of the most fun cars available to buy! The guys rediscover the JCW, and what a creative, useful, great driving car it is.
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@richdressen9735
@richdressen9735 5 ай бұрын
I had '15 GTI, sold it during COVID, and have wanted something new ever since. With manuals coming to their demise, I was looking at an VW R or Mini. Stopped by the dealer just to test drive a mini with manual and to my surprise they just had a JCW. This Mini was so much better than the '15 Mini we last drove. I fell in love with it and took it home! The adaptive suspension is worth the money as we also test drove an S with stock suspension and it was a much firmer ride. Our JCW is fun and refined. It's not like riding in a STI, Civic, or some of the other plastic feeling sport hatches. This feels like a small BMW inside, the layout is fantastic!
@Mr2_online
@Mr2_online 2 жыл бұрын
A 3 door Mini JCW is so much fun, always made me smile. I sold my 3 door JCW two years ago. I missed it soo much, today I ordered a brand new one. I can’t wait for it to arrive!
@learzetur6
@learzetur6 2 жыл бұрын
My fiance has a 2012 mini cooper base. Not even the S or JCW nothing... I love that thing! It puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Also, I'm 6 feet and fit perfectly in this car if not better than my corolla. Minis are truly a beautiful piece of work
@marklargigity2866
@marklargigity2866 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they are. Just be sure to have a warrenty when owning one😊
@vehiclenanny
@vehiclenanny 2 жыл бұрын
I just sold my 2016 Hardtop Cooper S (Todd planted that seed in my Car Debate 542), and am reminded how much I regret that move after seeing the guys enjoying this JCW. Todd is right, you need to look at MINI as the entry level fun BMW.
@bill7481
@bill7481 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at this as a well priced BMW is an interesting perspective. Straight to the configurator!
@T_K_W
@T_K_W 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved it on a test drive. Having tested both an i30N and a GR Yaris, the Mini felt the like a much more premium package, obviously reflected in the price, but if you have the money, I'd say go for it! Excelent car.
@jackson1366
@jackson1366 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, you guys really understand the point. A lot of youtubers miss the mark
@aneeqahmad3599
@aneeqahmad3599 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my cousin just ordered mini jcws, so excited and thank you for validating our purchases with this glowing review!
@duhpizzaboi
@duhpizzaboi 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2016 jcw and I miss the hell out of it. Was by far the best car I’ve owned it was so well thought through and a massive upgrade from the previous generations of minis. Can’t wait to get my hands on another one.
@davidgoris1
@davidgoris1 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this review !!! I had a 2006 Cooper S, 6 speed and awesome supercharger. It put a grin on my face everytime I drove it and I especially liked giving rides to people who had no idea that 1) there was so much room inside 2) how genuinely quick the car was 3) how well it handled corners. Thank you for pointing out all the stuff I loved about the first gen Mini and how the new one recalls that same look and feel. This review makes me want another Mini !! More Smiles per Mile = Mini Cooper
@weaverpsu
@weaverpsu 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I had a 2003 Cooper S that I modified to about 200hp, it was an absolute blast but it was under $25k and this is $40k...So, I don't agree with the direction they have taken the MINI brand. So many great cars at $35-40K.
@doriangray2347
@doriangray2347 10 ай бұрын
I had one as well! same thing!!! was awesome for 11 years
@corysekine-pettite1783
@corysekine-pettite1783 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Cooper S for 5 years. It was a great, fun-to-drive car. I eventually "upgraded" to a 3-Series, but still miss the Mini sometimes.
@leom00n79
@leom00n79 Жыл бұрын
How was the reliability for the Mini Cooper? Has it given you major problems? I plan on getting a 2023 Mini JCW this December.
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 Жыл бұрын
@@leom00n79 Buy the JCW. It's very reliable and extremely well made. I have a the convertible version. So much fun. You won't be disappointed. Also, since there is no spare - get the run flat tires. Don't listen to people who say they are no good. They are wrong. Run flat tire technology is not the same as it was 20 years ago and now perform like regular tires.
@Suldusk
@Suldusk Жыл бұрын
@@bigmacdaddy1234 sadly, standard tires still feel better. My brother in law has non run flats in his ‘12 f30 and mine ‘18 has run flats. His car rides like a rolls Royce compared to mine.
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 Жыл бұрын
@@Suldusk I have been in a Mini with non-run flat tires...it feels the same.
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife Жыл бұрын
I hear that!! I sold my Mini after purchasing a low miles C6 Corvette Z06. The car is insane fast and my first sports car. It sure does grip the road really well but there is truly nothing like a mini R56 I had. It just had so much character. I want another one!!
@adrianwalters4260
@adrianwalters4260 2 жыл бұрын
Loved to see how happy it made your review! They are unique in a sea of uniformity.
@mikecampbell7421
@mikecampbell7421 Ай бұрын
My wife has a 2010 Copper s convertible (stock) and of course manual. It is a hoot to drive when pushed hard, I love it and secretly would get a JCW for Sundays!!!!
@j.delaney5525
@j.delaney5525 2 жыл бұрын
You guys made me miss my 2007 Mimi Cooper S. Now I want another one!
@Theprofessor1212
@Theprofessor1212 2 жыл бұрын
My wife has a 3 door version of Mini copper s with the JCW package. 2016 model with the B48 engine from the BMW 320i. That car is such a hoot to drive. The exhaust pops at every gear change.
@HawkenessMonster
@HawkenessMonster 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 05 Cooper S (supercharged) and a 2012 JCW Coupe (turbo).. Good lord these cars are brilliant. Not the most reliable things, but they sure do keep a smile on your face no matter what you're doing!
@davisflyer
@davisflyer 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my 2006 JCW and it's a great car! I know $40k sounds expensive, but mine was almost $32k in 2006. These cars are so much fun!
@RussellMiddleton
@RussellMiddleton Жыл бұрын
I have the same car and love it too! Previous had an Elise, Boxster, 135i, MR2, Miata, etc and the Mini might have a greater fun factor than all of them.
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife Жыл бұрын
@@RussellMiddletonit seems like you feel the same way I do! I have a Corvette C6 Z06 and although it’s really fast and handles great for the type of car it is, I still miss my mini second generation S! I had a manic tune put on it as well as a few upgrades which made it so quick!! It wasn’t as fast as the corvette but it sure was fun. I’m debating a first or another second generation to buy used. Which one did you have?
@RussellMiddleton
@RussellMiddleton Жыл бұрын
@@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife I've got a first generation R52 convertible JCW. Hydraulic steering, 6 speed box, the addictive supercharger whine, and loads of character. I do miss sitting a little lower and looking down a sport car hood, but the Mini is terrific around town and on winding back roads.
@doriangray2347
@doriangray2347 10 ай бұрын
2006 JCW is pinacle of Mini. Very lucky. Please keep it mint and restored fully. That has all of the fixes in 2006, and none of the ultra cheapened body and engine of the next two years.
@PortersGarage
@PortersGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I did not go for the JCW but after watching this video I did go drive the MCS in both manual and DCT, now I have a manual MCS ordered as of yesterday. Can’t wait for it to show up!
@K1dPhresh1
@K1dPhresh1 2 жыл бұрын
The Mini is one of several cars I’ve always wanted to drive. Not own, but just sample. Looks fun. Also: 6th!!!😐
@MatthewGaither
@MatthewGaither 2 жыл бұрын
Mini's really doing some good work right now in terms of making cars that are practical AND fun while still having some personality and uniqueness to them. I bought a 2021 Countryman JCW with the 301hp version of the B48 last year and I absolutely love it. I'd like to see Everyday Driver check one out if they could get their hands on it because it has the same soul as the 2 door hardtop only with more power and more space. And I agree with the comment about the newer Mini's being entry level BMW's because that's exactly what they have become. Great thought, guys! Edit - I also turned off the fake noise in mine and i like it even better that way. Great exhaust and induction noise without the fake "drone" coming through the speakers.
@Vexaris
@Vexaris 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Operative word is “FUN.”
@casperskestrel
@casperskestrel 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I ordered a 2022 JCW last month. Rebel Green, with black roof & mirrors, automatic transmission & intelligent adaptive suspension. Now I have to wait 4 months for it to be built/delivered.
@buildmorefarms1007
@buildmorefarms1007 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, how much $?
@edgaralan9917
@edgaralan9917 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you have it now ,are you pleased ?
@casperskestrel
@casperskestrel 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgaralan9917 yes, after several delays due to chip shortages and war in Ukraine, I finally took delivery of the car a few weeks ago. Travelled about 800 miles in it so far. It's very enjoyable/fun to drive.
@jouhajohnny
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
@@casperskestrel How it has been for owning it for over 3 months? 😁
@casperskestrel
@casperskestrel Жыл бұрын
​@@jouhajohnny I like it. It's the most enjoyable car I've owned since selling my Civic Type R in 2010. No regrets so far. I drive it in Sport mode most of the time as the Green mode just feels slow, and the Normal mode feels like the Cooper S I test drove (and if I wanted that, I'd have just bought a Cooper S).
@hjdiet
@hjdiet Жыл бұрын
Great review guys - I just got my first Mini (2020 Cooper HT S)... it is a pocket rocket... love it!
@mikeLOL45424
@mikeLOL45424 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the guys test a mini countryman! I know it's Mini's largest vehicle, however I drove one recently and fell in LOVE.
@doriangray2347
@doriangray2347 10 ай бұрын
it is superb. truly is.
@wrsteep
@wrsteep 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on review! We bought a 2022 Clubman JCW and it is a Fantastic vehicle to drive. Speed deception is absolutely true, you can be an easy 20:30 mph over the posted limit and doesn’t even feel like it.
@josephvincello8962
@josephvincello8962 10 ай бұрын
Clubman JCW probably better since it has the GP engine.
@robbeard4648
@robbeard4648 2 жыл бұрын
This review made me so happy
@VPB1970
@VPB1970 2 жыл бұрын
I own 2021 a "normal" Cooper (the "rational" version) Classic 3dr (with all the gizmos and whatnot) and i absolutely love it. It´s very frugal and 136hp is plenty for a small hatch (back in the 80´s this would be a ridiculous statement). The JCW is amazing and top of the line (although a little "thirsty" with the gasoline at 2.1 € a liter). In Europe we have three lines - 1 - Mini One 102hp 2 -Mini Cooper 136hp 3 - Mini Cooper S and, 4 - Mini Cooper JCW. The 1.5 cooper is bullet proof in reliability and a very nice ride all around.
@leftovers2go198
@leftovers2go198 2 жыл бұрын
Drove BMW 3 series for 10 years then decided to get a MINI and fell in love with it.
@michaelwise535
@michaelwise535 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I have been saying for a long time. I own a 2016 Mini Cooper S. It is a blast. FYI you need to upgrade the tires. The default run flats are garbage.
@urbansteve
@urbansteve 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys keyed into BMW 0.5 Series! I got my S in 2016, and on the day I brought it home, looked down while cruising and went “whoa, 90!?” Been an absolute blast ever since. Great on backroads, good in a commute, can park anywhere, reasonable gas mileage, keeps the Costco bill in check.
@doriangray2347
@doriangray2347 10 ай бұрын
the JCW is faster than the M 135 thingie in europe. slower than the M 140. you could call it a M 138 :P
@IsaacReddinger
@IsaacReddinger 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@johnguanci2316
@johnguanci2316 2 жыл бұрын
The Mini Cooper -- Driving Gold
@jonathanedmunds8332
@jonathanedmunds8332 2 жыл бұрын
Just taken delivery of a mini JCW auto in white silver with red roof , 18” alloys ,privacy , nav pack and comfort pack ( uk specs ) . I’m a sales manger for another German brand but the drive of this is so much more fun . With the back seats down also enough room for 3 Labrador’s . Ticks every box, makes you want to drive and has a punch of performance when you want to DRIVE for driving’s sake 👍👍
@ZKozak-hp5vb
@ZKozak-hp5vb Жыл бұрын
I went from a fiat 124 to a golf r and picked up an r53 as a covid toy. The r53 was just a ton more fun to drive, I can't stress that enough. Golf R infinitely more capable - but I just couldn't warm up to it. Fiat 124 was great but the trunk couldn't...well function as a trunk I ended up in some bad spots when hitting trails for camping in the golf (with a kayak on the roof)r and ended up with an 2016 X3 35i. Can't stand the thing. Looking at trading it in for an F56 - has to be manual (X3 was my first auto car ever - can't stand it). Hard to find a jwc so I'm leaning towards just getting an mcs and putting the extra towards "sorting it out". But the brakes...the braaaaaaaaaakes! Mini is truly a hidden gem if you want to enjoy the drive DAILY.
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife Жыл бұрын
I’m testing this exact JCW version tomorrow!! I had a R56 mini and sold it when I bought a c6 Z06 corvette. Yes the 3100lb Z06 is insane fast, way more than I need. I took it to the track to drag race and had a blast. BUT I just miss that mini handling and fun. Jay Leno is 100 percent right: “it’s more fun to drive a slower car fast than a fast car”. The vette is cool, but I just can’t do the same fun chuckable lol stuff that I could in a mini. I’ll see how the test drive goes. Years ago when I bought the R56 I HATED the 2015 F56 models. They felt like big comfy minivans and I didn’t feel the go kart feel, but I loved the R56. I’ll see what the new one feels like first. If it doesn’t have that go kart feel, I will probably keep the vette longer and enjoy it for the power it has. But definitely would like another mini!
@xuhan4682
@xuhan4682 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 JCW. It pops and bangs like crazy in sports mode. 100% stock. That was the reason I bought the car. It's such a bummer that the facelift model doesn't pop.
@JamesSpeedRuns
@JamesSpeedRuns Жыл бұрын
2017 jcw here, same applies with those pops n bangs. love it
@philcourt2288
@philcourt2288 2 жыл бұрын
Had this car, in this colour since March 2021. It's fun, turns heads and is underestimated by other drivers (it's fun gapping base model BMWs). In a world full of Golfs, 1 Series and A Class, the JCW is a breath of fresh air.
@dc3565
@dc3565 2 жыл бұрын
Its the annoying young guys with diesels that piss me off lol
@ollyvoxx
@ollyvoxx 5 ай бұрын
You guys making me real happy I got a 22 JCW for my new daily 🥰 6 speed, of course.
@afmx1
@afmx1 2 жыл бұрын
LOL- I see you have the Fixx on the stereo as you talked about the NAV/media display. 80's music are the best for cruising. I bought a Cooper SE recently and am enjoying the Mini feel without the potential mechanical issues.
@Alejandro_BoniIIa
@Alejandro_BoniIIa Жыл бұрын
Never doubt what a mini can fit inside it!
@paulsnell1274
@paulsnell1274 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 JCW and it is a blast to drive. The only mod I’ve done is a stiffer rear sway bar. Nothing else needed. My previous car was a 2008 JCW. The 2019 Gen 3 is a higher build quality and is more comfortable…plenty of power.
@effa114
@effa114 Жыл бұрын
Which sway bar did you install? And does it get the rear more involved?
@paulsnell1274
@paulsnell1274 Жыл бұрын
@@effa114 I installed a 24mm solid bar from Whiteline. It really plants the rear end and allows the car to turn in much better. Be sure to live the bushings well. I’d suggest you mix some graphite or moly powder with the silicone grease to keep it quiet. Has worked well for me.
@effa114
@effa114 Жыл бұрын
@@paulsnell1274 Thank you, much appreciated!
@paulsnell1274
@paulsnell1274 Жыл бұрын
@@effa114 be sure to lube the bushings with a mixture of the silicone grease as supplied with the kit… and add about 20% dry moly powder or graphite to the mix. That will help to keep the new bushings from squeaking
@TurismoFit
@TurismoFit Жыл бұрын
Best auto review ever!!!!😊
@scottmcgowan5861
@scottmcgowan5861 2 жыл бұрын
Like the other owners I really enjoy my '15 Cooper S 4-dr HT. However, I feel like I've gotten everything out of it that I can on the track. Either the JCW or the Subaru BRZ would be a reasonable "upgrade" that I could afford. I climbed all over the BRZ at the Los Angeles auto show and, yes, it is nice. Much nicer in person. The BRZ is a few thousand less than the JCW, too. But what about the numbers? Curiously they both put out 228 hp but the JCW has a slightly better weight-to-power ratio. What gets my attention though is that the JCW has 28% more torque. That is significant. You're definitely going to feel that coming out of the corners. Still, not a slam dunk choice. BRZ = RWD and 50/50 weight distribution. JCW = FWD and 65/35. My Michelin Pilot SS's on the front are toast because of understeer (or me coming into the corners too hot, yeah I have to be honest). So what to do? Probably can't go wrong with either car. What a nice problem to have!
@latlak
@latlak 2 жыл бұрын
Finally people who got the idea! An entry level BMW with fun in its design and its handling. It's definitely not the fastest on a track, but who does that anyway? It's all about fun and the luxurious BMW-like features. I mean, no other car in this size offers such a high quality interior. For similar fun and a little bit more space, go for the 5-door Cooper S. It's closer to the JCW than you might think first.
@R3LF13
@R3LF13 2 жыл бұрын
Another previous gen 1 new mini owner who absolutely loves them here. In my case, a couple of years ago, I bought a well maintained r50 5 speed for $2500, hooned the snot out of it for 8 months, and then sold it for $3200. Still one of my favorite automotive experiences and an amazing car for how it attacked a backroad even with no power AND made every single roundabout and ramp fun every single day. I have a Fiesta ST now and feel like this new one would make a worthy upgrade from that, and I never felt that way the gen 2. Keep up the great work. 👍
@RussellMiddleton
@RussellMiddleton Жыл бұрын
How do you like the Fiesta ST vs your R50? I have an R53 JCW and considering an ST next.
@R3LF13
@R3LF13 Жыл бұрын
@@RussellMiddleton I think the Fiesta ST is perfect for anyone who likes Minis. I'm not sure how the power will compare since your Mini is faster than mine was, but the handling and the way it gives you that "this is what I like about a good, light FWD" feeling is very similar. The Fiesta ST is fun!
@RussellMiddleton
@RussellMiddleton Жыл бұрын
@@R3LF13 Nice, thanks. Enjoy it!
@shevetlevi2821
@shevetlevi2821 Жыл бұрын
Really nice thinking man's review. I'm reluctantly liking the JCW for following reasons. I've had a 2011 Cooper S Hardtop for 11 years. Has it been fun to drive? Absolutely and the go kart (chuckability factor) is no exageration. My skill is more the limiting factor than the car. The thing is that even with something you like after 11 years you're ready for a change. Also the love affair with this car tarnished when I'd hear a long string of that Bloop! sound advising that some code needs to be checked. By the time the Mini reached 75,000 miles and long out of their not so generous warranty I'd literally spent twice as much on repairs as I had on 1999 Isuzu Amigo that had 140,000 miles on it. And the repairs are always expensive. Some of them stupid little things like the rear tailgate strut, or the driver's side sun visor (which is a great idea) plastic broke and kept on flopping down so I had to buy a new one and what looked like a $3.00 plastic part of course was $125 by the time I drove away. Back to being tired of it and ready for a change; I love hot hatches and I was interested in the Hyundai Veloster, but when the Veloster N came out I was lusting for it. Even the weird 3 door configuration was perfect for me. I have back seat passengers maybe 5 days a year but when it's my family I always get the "Why didn't you get a 4 door car?" crap. Also we just did a one month 4,000 mile road trip in it. The cargo area with the back seats up will manage an airline overhead suitcase no problem and a couple of small mashable bags. That's okay, you don't buy a Mini for its hauling. On the trip we kept the back seats folded down but with every restaurant stop you're keeping an eye on your car with the very visible luggage. Anyway the Veloster N seemed perfect in every way but they discontinued it because Americans seem to like boring cars without any eccentricity or fun to it. So with all of the numbingly dull looking and dull driving cars out there I'm back to the Mini but this time I'd think about the JCW. Whether it's worth $5,600 more compared to the mid level Cooper S for just a half second sooner to 60 mph is something that I have to think about. I know that you also get a bit more attitude and edginess to it but for me it's not a small amount. In this video I strongly dislike the instrument panel. I think that the clean flat tach, and fuel gauge cluster directly in front of the driver looks like an oval iPhone. I'm old school and like more analog instruments or if not analog then more 3 dimensional. If it were up to me the inside of the Mini would look like the inside of a Triumph TR4, although the overhead switches for the lights and sunroof are cool and aircraft like. Anyway, I'm going to keep the 2011 until it dies which given its reliabilty shouldn't be too far away but I've got time to think about and if I get another Mini, whether another S or the JCW it'll be more by default than the gotta have it factor. Btw, where do you keep that gold bullion?
@michaelbodie1970
@michaelbodie1970 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned one of these for 8 months and love it with one exception…. The ride quality on British roads (18’ wheels) Comfort could be more comfortable 😎
@petegalindez9961
@petegalindez9961 11 ай бұрын
Great review guys…I’ve been off the fun car train for a while with teenagers driving and living in the burbs, but now kids are going to college and I’m moving to DC…my current daily is a Wagoneer and it’s wayyyyyy toooo big for every day driving there. Test drove the mini yesterday and it’s awesome!!! Exactly what you said, it’s the best entry level BMW you can buy…I’ve owned BMWs and my complaint with them has been to get to the ultimate driving machine you need to spend 15k in upgrades to whatever model you buy (outside the M versions)…this is hot right out of the box…bummed a little with the tiny center screen…little hard to see the Navi, but I can deal with that…
@gravityhammer25
@gravityhammer25 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 Mini Cooper JCW GP, best car I have ever driven. I love it so much that I almost want to just drive it year round I just need to find a set of winter wheels that will clear the brakes. I have an FJ Cruiser that I can use in the winter but it's so cumbersome, heavy and bad on gas I don't want to even drive it anymore.
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review
@johnlordly
@johnlordly 2 жыл бұрын
Love my R56 once it's paid off and the warranty is out I'm gonna make it a track car and buy one of these for a daily.
@HandsomeAlex25
@HandsomeAlex25 2 жыл бұрын
Gold Boullion or drain pipes... Either way the Mini's got it!
@RockstarBruski
@RockstarBruski 2 жыл бұрын
Great review guys! Couple of questions for you: My Minister of finance (AKA Planny Jules) drives a base 2007 mini cabriolet and loves it and while it's perfect for her I have a few questions for you about the new mini: 1. How is the front wheel spin? Ours spins all the time from a start in dry or any amount of rain even with good tires by the car is so light. 2. How's the interior quality? The plastic in ours is super cheap feeling. 3. Does the new mini still require engine out for a clutch replacement? $2k on up for our clutch replacement because of engine out requirement. Still overall our 07 has great curves and body design is fun to drive and other than the convertible top sensors ($2k to replace) it has been a fairly reliable car. Cheers! :)
@PortersGarage
@PortersGarage 2 жыл бұрын
This video makes me want to go drive one. I loved my little R53. I feel one of these would be more practical in my personal fleet than the new BRZ/GR86, but I wonder how much fun I’d be giving up by going the more practical (yet expensive) route?
@aarongrisham5555
@aarongrisham5555 2 жыл бұрын
It can take way more boost and is great to own
@bradcomis1066
@bradcomis1066 2 жыл бұрын
The Mini is more fun in traffic because it is so short and tiny and has good visibility, but the BRZ is better on a backroad. The Mini is great around those super tight corners in the city, but the BRZ has better chassis balance and much better flow. Neither one is quiet on the highway. The Mini will take WAY more cargo and the backseat of the Mini is usable for short trips. Four people under 6' can fit in the Mini okay. The backseat in the BRZ is bizarre IMO and I don't even know why it is there as almost no one except children 4-9 years old.
@PortersGarage
@PortersGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradcomis1066 I ended up ordering a new Mini Cooper S Friday. Was so much fun to drive I couldn’t not order one.
@R3LF13
@R3LF13 2 жыл бұрын
I want a gr86 too but I also honestly like a good fwd car on a backroad. There is something about the balance of sharp turn it and sure-footedness. It has to be small and light and have the handling to provide a good fwd experience, but cars that do give up nothing in fun factor - they often have me pushing hard and giggling over it. I have a Fiesta st now and would consider one of these in a heartbeat.
@PortersGarage
@PortersGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@R3LF13 I used to own GTIs, I’ve had 6 of them, various generations and all 2 door. I like owning 2 door hatchbacks, so when VW quit making them I experimented with other cars, now I’m waiting for my MINI to show up. Can’t wait to be back in a small fun hatch again. The wife also wants a 2nd gen BRZ, so while I didn’t get one this time, if we both want it, it will happen sooner than later 😂
@scottmcgowan5861
@scottmcgowan5861 2 жыл бұрын
Like the other owners I really enjoy my ‘15 Cooper S 4-dr HT. A couple of times a year I drive it on the track in HPDE’s with AudiClubSoCal. That’s a lot of fun. But like Tim Allen said, “More power!” I would consider the JCW and the Subaru BRZ to be reasonably priced upgrades for track cars. Yes, the BRZ costs less but I’m at a later stage in life where I am fortunate enough to be able to say that fun is more important than money. Consider the numbers: JCW and BRZ both generate 228 HP but I believe the JCW has the better weight-to-power ratio. The JCW develops 28% more torque than the BRZ. That is significant. You’re going to feel that coming out of the corners. However, if I’m correct the JCW ships with Pirelli Cinturato P7’s which are not suitable track tires. Trust me. What to do, what to do…
@foodofthemasses
@foodofthemasses 3 ай бұрын
Guys, change up from 3rd FFS! You’re making my teeth itch with the high revs 🤣
@wademorefield3797
@wademorefield3797 Жыл бұрын
I know it's an old video, but as the owner of a new '23 Cooper S I feel obliged to note that the Mini digital speedometer is wildly optimistic. I think it's a common thing w/ all the Minis. The comments in the video about not feeling as fast as it is are spot on. The Mini (in any form) is not moving as fast as indicated on the speedo. On the highway, it borders on ridiculous. Apparently, the ECU knows exactly how fast the vehicle is moving, but the speedometer is specifically calibrated to read a bit high due to some concerns inspired by European Union regulations/laws/penalties. Nevertheless, the Mini is a blast to drive and I'm loving mine, wonky speedo and all.
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm 2 жыл бұрын
love the mini my first car was an ‘04 mini they’re so much fun :3
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm 2 жыл бұрын
sure they’re not as small as they used to be,, but it’s made w modern materials and safety and it’s smaller than anything else and the strong box shape is so stiff these days so fun in traffic and cities
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm 2 жыл бұрын
love that they “kept the clever” the gauge / dash design in the 00s was so much fun - glad to c it’s still clever even w the tech changed in the dash thx for giving the design minutae the attn they deserve !
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm 2 жыл бұрын
after my mini, i went to used bmw’s ever since i totally forgot how awesome- and satisfying- -feeling the toggles r and now i feel cheated they’re not in my e64 m6 lmfao the switches r so cheap in bmw’s by comparison to the switch gear in minis hahah
@matthewheitzman5993
@matthewheitzman5993 2 жыл бұрын
I seriously invite you both to come to Florida and drive my 2013 JCW🤣 270hp to the wheels (right now) Wide body with 245 track tires🤭 115k miles, still looks like new (ish) Zero reliability issues (Getting the engine built really soon {300wheel})
@adampalmer6491
@adampalmer6491 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the same year and model, it’s a great car beats a lot of other cars in the corners, living in the countryside in the U.K. I couldn’t think of a more fun daily driver
@matthewheitzman5993
@matthewheitzman5993 2 жыл бұрын
@@adampalmer6491 I’m beating litre bikes in the turns over here🤣 and mustang GTs in the straights
@adampalmer6491
@adampalmer6491 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewheitzman5993 sounds like you’ve got your setup dialled
@ChrisplayThrough64
@ChrisplayThrough64 7 ай бұрын
You want a fucking medal or something Like WTF!!!! 😂
@matthewheitzman5993
@matthewheitzman5993 7 ай бұрын
@@ChrisplayThrough64nah I want you to line it up if you wanna talk shit😂
@Themayseffect
@Themayseffect 7 ай бұрын
I still think for City driving the SE is the best in the line up, but the JCW is a proper fwd batch. The Brits got it really right with this latest generation. But it def needs 17 inch wheels and the last version steering wheel was much nicer to use .
@rdiamond655
@rdiamond655 2 жыл бұрын
The trifecta of fun cars are all under $40k; MINI JCW, GR86, MX-5 RF. What choices we have.
@countalucard4226
@countalucard4226 Жыл бұрын
My first one was 2010 2 door hardtop no S. I loved it, manual trans, pepper white black roof and mirror caps. $19,500. I just paid it off and Hurricane Sandy totaled it. Full of salt water.
@bill7481
@bill7481 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, I would like to see a clubman JCW review, please!
@rustbeltrobclassic2512
@rustbeltrobclassic2512 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the older ones, but i don't know how i feel about how this thing looks.. The front is weird now.. but i can't figure out if it's cutely ugly, or if i just hate the way the front looks..
@joslinnick
@joslinnick Жыл бұрын
The only people who hate on this car are the ones who have never driven it. It's a really fun car to drive.
@adrianwalters4260
@adrianwalters4260 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this and went out and test drove a Clubman Cooper S with a MANUAL! I ordered one! It drove in a manner similar to the 2 door, but I’m able to take the family and some stuff with me! A family car with a bit of luxury that has a stick, and is fun to drive? I thought they were extinct!
@justinwieduwilt5420
@justinwieduwilt5420 Жыл бұрын
Can’t get that here is the US unfortunately, I bet that’d be a fun vehicle. Manual only available in the 2 door hatch and convertible here.
@ASecureLab
@ASecureLab Жыл бұрын
good review, although I alway find funny that people hate one the "round" infotainment. I think its a older driver thing and nostalgia (aka its all just subjective) to me I love the way it looks.
@jayczyzyk7607
@jayczyzyk7607 11 ай бұрын
The more you forget not to buy mini the better it is 😢
@jordancotnoir3533
@jordancotnoir3533 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered this exact JCW but with brown leather back in November. Should just be a few more months until delivery!
@davidc.7838
@davidc.7838 14 күн бұрын
How your experience has been with your jcw?
@jordancotnoir3533
@jordancotnoir3533 13 күн бұрын
@@davidc.7838 I traded it after about a year and a half. I enjoyed driving it and there wasn’t anything wrong with it. But I decided I could get more use for my house out of a light duty pickup
@re14437
@re14437 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on with the affordable BMW points. We’ve had a few of the base models and they are still fun as fuk at $29K 😂
@drumflip1253
@drumflip1253 2 жыл бұрын
I love Minis and hot hatches. Owned 2 of them. For the price it’s too expensive compared to a Bmw 230i, golf r, gti, veloster n
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha 2 жыл бұрын
If they had made the suspension adjustable (camber mostly) I would have considered it. I’m also surprised they don’t put a limited slip differential in it. There is always a soft spot in my heart for the Minis.
@michaelsanger5294
@michaelsanger5294 2 жыл бұрын
dynamic damper control is an option.
@bilaltariq7819
@bilaltariq7819 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you need to change the camber?
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha 2 жыл бұрын
@@bilaltariq7819 I autocross my cars and negative camber increases cornering grip.
@bilaltariq7819
@bilaltariq7819 2 жыл бұрын
@@aroundomaha I have an r56 JCW, front has camber plates and rear has adjustable length control arms. They aren't too difficult to install and let me adjust the camber
@oldben1800
@oldben1800 Жыл бұрын
there is already good camber on the tires
@dunphyjp
@dunphyjp 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmm. I’m game for my 5th mini Hahaha
@FurkanCemTurfanda
@FurkanCemTurfanda 2 жыл бұрын
MINIs are still amazing cars, but for some reason are overlooked in the US.
@darrigadepatrick6237
@darrigadepatrick6237 10 ай бұрын
I 've got a 2006 Cooper S Checkmate and love it, but i'm looking for to buy this Cooper JCW. Will you recommend Select Drive suspension, or OEM sport suspension?
@bimmerfan729
@bimmerfan729 2 жыл бұрын
I shopped them awhile ago and it was just hard to justify them for the money. Still want an R52/R53 JCW GP
@hejmuesli
@hejmuesli 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you test the entry level Mini Cooper with 134 HP to see if the less powerful version is even more fun as you can use more of its power before you are going much too fast.
@keiranspence1648
@keiranspence1648 2 жыл бұрын
I have one! Tuned to 155 HP and 200 TQ. Good fun!
@erikn.7540
@erikn.7540 2 жыл бұрын
Throttle House did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqPOgqWmpq52bs0
@re14437
@re14437 2 жыл бұрын
It absolutely is fun
@bradcomis1066
@bradcomis1066 2 жыл бұрын
The low powered Mini are fun at low speeds in the city, but the S models are even more fun at low speed AND they are fun on the highway. If you can afford the S definitely go for it. The price differential isn't that large and the fuel economy penalty is minor. I owned a base 2015 Cooper 6MT and it was quick in the city, but on the highway it was really slow. The torque comes on downlow, but it runs out of steam really quick.
@josephvincello8962
@josephvincello8962 10 ай бұрын
Great point, same for S vs JCW - is JCW worth the extra $?
@albertorbinati5511
@albertorbinati5511 Жыл бұрын
Great review and an excellent channel. Best on YT. I'm seriously considering buying a Cooper 2 door and the JCW may be the ticket after watching this review. Thanks for the great content.
@josephvincello8962
@josephvincello8962 10 ай бұрын
Good review. Was surprised about the price/value comment… There’s nothing the car doesn’t have, including advanced infotainment, advanced performance tech, HK audio, panoramic sunroof, free sched maintenance, the list goes on, for a price well below todays avg new car price.
@CCourter16
@CCourter16 2 жыл бұрын
I just sold a GTI and ended up going with the Mini Countryman JCW over the Mk8 Golf R. It puts a smile on my face every time I look at it and couldn’t be happier with my decision. There are so many quirks, and you will definitely pay BMW pricing, but wow the smile factor is sure there. While the 2 door was great in theory, it’s a big step down in practicality from a GTI/R and most hot hatches on the market. The clubman is a better competitor to current hot hatches. The JCWs really are the entry step into BMW performance vehicles, love that comparison!
@mikem9049
@mikem9049 Жыл бұрын
The numb steering and lack of engine growl in my F22 M240i leave me cold. Would the JCW do better in these areas? I do enjoy RWD but only drive enthusiastically around town and in canyons and don't track. Any advice is appreciated!
@cpkay33
@cpkay33 2 жыл бұрын
mini always will have a place in my heart. they were a pain to maintain but it seems like they’ve become more reliable ?
@jouhajohnny
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
The 2 liter B48 BMW engine really reliable
@joespittle1
@joespittle1 2 жыл бұрын
If you were OK with skipping some of the creature comforts you could probably get into one of these for around 30k which seems like a bargain. MINI's are like Legos in that you can customize it endlessly so if you wanted to save even more you could probably tune a Cooper S to JCW levels of oomph with relative ease.
@gmarks1559
@gmarks1559 6 ай бұрын
Mini is to BMW as Tudor is to Rolex. Watch guys will get that. I saw your GMT!
@ENGBriseB
@ENGBriseB Жыл бұрын
Love the MINI Cooper s. But you get nearly 40 BHP with the JCW and go for the manual. Made in Oxford England.
@claudetheruler
@claudetheruler Жыл бұрын
Is it the same fun in automatic with shift paddles?
@patricsteele
@patricsteele Жыл бұрын
It'd be great to see a FUN comparison with this and the manual Hyundai Velostar N !
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 Жыл бұрын
The Mini is a premium vehicle with superior materials, fit and finish. The handling is excellent. The software is reliable. On the other hand, the Veloster N is fraught with engine stalling issues, coolant leaks, clutch disk problems, shattering rear window (thin cheap glass), driver side door gets stuck in cold weather, cheap paint (clearcoat fades quickly), terrible software programming (lane departure sensors are usually wrong, airbags do not deploy in a collision, blind spot warning miscalculates). Sorry, but you can even begin to compare them until Hyundai fixes all these issues.
@nikoporre1856
@nikoporre1856 2 жыл бұрын
the best car under 250cv...0-100 in 6 sec whit original tire but 5.5 whit UHP tire.
@nickhall7763
@nickhall7763 10 ай бұрын
Big car now
@MissionForward3
@MissionForward3 Ай бұрын
I hate the fact that the Mini has grown so way out of proportion in comparison to its roots. Because of that, I bought an '04 Cooper S and am about to upgrade to a '13 JCW converible. That will be the last Mini I buy because it's gotten too big. You guys mentioned turbo reliability issues with the second gen. Moreso, were reliability issues with the N14 engine. Fortunately, the N18 that replaced it removed virtually all of the N14 problems.
@andreaskappen4320
@andreaskappen4320 8 ай бұрын
How does the jcw compare with the second gen brz?
@SinCityAMG
@SinCityAMG Жыл бұрын
What road are they driving on?
@paullalouette2300
@paullalouette2300 11 ай бұрын
Great review guys but if you think the person looking to buy a BMW X2 should rather buy a 3 door mini.. you don't really understand how people buy cars... LOL!!
@richardbarrett4104
@richardbarrett4104 6 ай бұрын
Why would you take such a car on long straight roads, when its much better on bendy small side roads guys?
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef Жыл бұрын
Our car was in the shop for a month and we somehow got a Mini Countryman as a rental. The cheapest spec'd one they make.... 3 cyl, base seats, no Carplay.... nuthin. Other than being really slow, it was still a fun car to throw into a corner, maneuver, park, fuel, everything. Crappy stereo. JCW seems to fix all of the craptastic parts while getting into the 40's. Probably worth it.
@Bangastarch
@Bangastarch Жыл бұрын
What model (year) is this ?
@nickval5962
@nickval5962 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the Mini 3-Doors, the JCW convertible being my favorite one they have to offer now. However.. I miss the analog tachometer. that digital screen looks so out of place. I work for Mini and from experiencing both, the analog tachometer was just better.
@lonewolf7164
@lonewolf7164 Жыл бұрын
Whats the learning curve on working on these cars?
@stephenbuchanan2619
@stephenbuchanan2619 2 жыл бұрын
Sure it's good, but can I get golf clubs in the back?
@leom00n79
@leom00n79 Жыл бұрын
Hello, can someone please inform me the reliability of the 2022/2023 Mini Cooper JCW or Mini Cooper S. Thank you ❤
@burgholte
@burgholte 8 ай бұрын
Can anyone comment on these seats vs comfort seats?
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