Mini Cooper S Rear Suspension Fail - Edd China's Workshop Diaries 18

[@kristoffscuba5466]

The fact the threads stripped out is actually excellent content. I mean, any of us who work our own old cars have seized/snapped/stripped bolts to contend with quite often. You begin to think you are doing something wrong. So nice to know it happens to the pros and to see how they fix it.

[@RTS1980]

Agreed. It has happened to everyone doing this kind of work.

[@Alexander_l322]

Agree

[@jtr159]

Oh yeah. Totally agree! Those are the moments you hate when working on a car but look back at warmly years later - if you get everything done that is. Seeing the pros encounter it fills me with a kind of sympathetic schadenfreude. I was wrenching an old Nissan back in the day, replacing a control arm as I recall. One bolt wouldn't budge no matter what I did. So I (stupidly, in hindsight) gave the threaded end a few hard taps with a hammer, and got the bolt right out. Well, it should come as no surprise that the threads had squeezed together at the end of the bolt and putting it back on became a nightmare. The frustration was palpable, but after a few more hours of fixing the threads with a steel saw and a file I got it to thread to the nut again.

[@Playingbyear]

Don’t you hate it when they give you the wrong torque settings?

[@chuckstang]

Refreshing to see a show where real world problems arise and not everything gets tidied up in a half hour. Crack on Edd. 👍

[@Roadkill7878]

Ed great content. I agreed with your view that WD was going in the wrong direction away from what most viewers wanted to see i.e. detailed content. I applaud your decision to go with your gut and start doing this channel where you go in depth and show your loyal viewers really top class detailed content. Thank you. I have learnt a lot from you over the years 👍🏻

[@_DinoREX_]

I am loving to see this complete series about suspension. I dont think its getting boring and cant wait to see the final results

[@huss1205]

It started to get boring...

[@efsanesarkilar8016]

Türkler daha gelmemiş🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@paspax]

Two words... Thread Files.

[@GrayRaceCat]

@@paspax Two more... Thread Chase

[@Playingbyear]

Rethreading the aluminium will be interesting, that and deriving the new torque settings, as the stated figure of 160 is clearly responsible for the damage.

[@_DinoREX_]

I hope that Neil could give Ed a ride and film it. Would be awesome!

[@Kurogane-san]

Indeed

[@fensoxx]

This show “airing” on a Friday was genius. End of a long work weak and cozy up with some wrenching with Edd.

[@tomhorsley6566]

I usually watch it Saturday morning so I can make my morning cup of tea when Edd does :-).

[@pemdp]

Tom Horsley Edd's on Saturday and "Built by Jeff" on Sunday

[@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206]

Edd China... You are simply the BEST

[@efsanesarkilar8016]

Türkler daha gelmemiş🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@csn583]

"The Turks haven't come yet"? What an odd thing to spam.

[@briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206]

@@efsanesarkilar8016 Hayır, Türk henüz gelmedi.

[@R.Craig.Collins]

I will gladly wait a year to see your electric salt flat racer... thanks for the great distraction and illuminating content

[@jyvben1520]

that year long wait is just to see the conversion beginning i think, might be 2 years before the trial run.

[@trev8591]

Electric drop-tank racer, what a great idea! Thanks for making my Friday evening interesting, Edd.

[@jamielindley]

Would be great if you could prefix the videos with an episode number like you were doing to start with. Makes it much easier to catch up and for downloads with KZbin premium!

[@Jaydcoke]

I agree!

[@sandhopper99]

Maybe a date as well

[@NarfBLAST]

Yes basic KZbin stuff, helps steer the views and auto-plays, no need to make a "playlist" just number your episodes and let the algorithms do the rest.

[@angusstewart6213]

Yes, episode numbers and a date please, so helpful.

[@tornado34]

100%

[@davidkersey2414]

Just realised Edd has a new channel.. absolutely ace.. feels just like the Edd bits from classic wheeler dealers which I have missed dearly.. makes me feel right at home.. Great stuff

[@terryhand]

This channel has gone from strength to strength. I hope we will get some footage of Neil's car in action.

[@bc48233]

I absolutely love this content. Informative and cool, but deceptively relaxing. A cup of coffee here in the morning and I'm absolutely comfortable lol

[@SooperKewl]

I actually watch at night to wind down before bed 💤 soothing

[@kastooMcFry]

Such a great show! Informative while solving real problems but without drama, like WD with that Brewer character. Can't wait for that electric fuel tank race car!

[@jyvben1520]

yeah, the idea is great, no fuel weight loss.

[@brianboeing9799]

Great to watch a Specialist with incredible Knowledge entertain us all.

[@srfsrf472]

Loving the real world feel of these shows... Showing the fails as well as successes.

[@507vhernandez]

edd I am very pleased that you can illustrate us on how to improve our vehicles, with practical ideas, I hope you have many successes, we continue to support you from Mexico, a hug and congratulations.

[@nicholasfuentes3155]

Thanks Ed for speaking up for tall guys. I am 6’6” and also have trouble fitting in many cars. The “big” electric belly tank racer is going to be fun to watch. Thank you for doing all that you do!

[@GarageItYourself]

I do like how you'll happily talk about Wheeler Dealers and Mike with no unpleasantness in your voice. A good charcteristic to have 😊 Hopefully a timesert will fix the stripped threads or broken bolt in the suspension arm 👍

[@marcinmarkiewicz4702]

Poland is watching the greetings

[@alanhanniffy8177]

Absolutely love Ed’s combination of sheer talent and eccentricity, loving this show, and Neil’s involvement , he clearly is a man with deep knowledge and talent, but unaccustomed to wearing purple I think 🤔 😀🇮🇪

[@gillgetter3004]

How about a cup of tea, I will never argue with that. With me it’s coffee but the same enthusiasm. Loving your show here in Detroit!

[@antoniocalizhernandez6090]

I really like this kind of content, is highly didactical and realistic. Authentic science!

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Edd, you are a genius. The drop tank speeder is a brilliant idea and it is such a fantastic shape with the tail fins. Definitely something to look forward to. The stripped thread! Blast! When I heard it I thought it was the aluminium housing cracking so I suppose a stripped thread is slightly less disastrous. I'm sure it is fixed by now and I am looking forward to the next video. 👍😊

[@mickeyfilmer5551]

I have had cars since the early eighties, and as a metalworker, the bodywork was not a problem, BUT trying to do mechanical stuff with basic tools, and no workshop, I began to hate it. watching you doing stuff is such a delighyt. why wetren't you available back when I was a kid? loving your videos, and no irritating sidekick with a cockeney accent interuppting!! Thank goodness you have this show!

[@ivansemanco6976]

This Tornado fuel tank reminds me Camille Jenatzy and his wold speed record from 1899, also on electric car, very aerodynamic and first time over 100km/h. So great idea Edd. Thanks for video.

[@380.motorsports]

Ed, As I watch this episode I’m actually packing to travel to Bonneville for this years Speed Week. So was excited to see your belly tank project announcement. There are a couple electric streamliners running on the salt already but they need more competition so get that project going and come out next year. See you on the Salt!!!

[@nigelstanley3674]

My Saturday morning wrenching fix. Thanks!!

[@leostile8857]

Wow Ed, I can't believe that thread! Was a high torque tho😂. Great video, you and Neil work well together👍

[@csnelling4]

That’s a bummer, stripping out the alloy threads , great video guys !!! Keep these video coming , they are like the old days Edd 👏👏👏👍🇬🇧😎

[@sixtoes2313]

The look on Edds face when the bolt stripped.

[@MattBrownbill]

I used my wife's label maker to label all the wires in my engine-bay. Great little tool!

[@thorsteinj]

I've used it on many different things and unfortunately it seems to "unwind" and loosen over time. I would at least not trust it being stuck on metal even if it is stuck to itself. But it might just be the brand (using Dymo).

[@dB_944]

Burp! “Brilliant”! Awesome! Nice work, Neil. :)

[@TEAMVISKAT81]

it's so cool to see you on youtube, with your own show... the ed china way, has been a fan for many years

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

My heart sank at the noise of the thread failure, it's clearly under engineered. Ed, I think it would be jolly decent of you to give Neil one of your nice shirts as his is looking a bit knackered.

[@skylined5534]

"It says threads will not override or fail under load... we're gonna test that!"

[@chemxfan]

Ahh, man! So close, and then you hear something fail right at the finish line. Well, I guess it's better that the threads strip out while at the shop, instead of on the rally course.On the positive side, Neil & Edd have the professionalism & a sense of humor aspects covered - & this Mini will be sorted & ready to race in no time. As for the electric belly tank racecar, I can't wait till you start on that - it would be awesome. Thanks for a very interesting series Edd!

[@DJEdSaunders]

Love this series and seeing how it all works. I’m sure neil is a great fella, at least this episode he has come to life a bit

[@normanstephens5391]

Hi Ed. I feel your pain with that suspension bolt 😢 You will overcome the problem I'm sure. Interesting concept regarding the aircraft fuel cell. Looking forward to see how it pan's out. See you in the next one. 👍👍

[@shaunhenryengineering]

Stuff that makes you want to scream happens regardless of who you are, with my current restoration, where this is happening a lot, it offers a massive reality perspective when the pros like you edd do not cover it up and edit it out. Thank you for your honest diary entries, they are so valuable to my knowledge, perspective and want for these set backs not to get me down. Cheers edd.

[@belkabella5414]

Hi Ed miss you on the wheeler dealer's been watching it for many many years

[@gabechiplin8140]

As soon as Ed said 165nm I thought ooh this will be interesting... I would be helicoiling or similar into all those major alloy components to make them serviceable. They were only designed to be done up once, plus the grease probably meant a bit more strain on the threads at the same torque. Loving the show Ed, thanks for making the effort.

[@user-JLee1]

Please make show hour long episodes we want more time to watch👍we love your new show

[@HYUKLDER1]

Liking that you stop for a cup of tea - so British!

[@userscott]

This is absolutely excellent programming. Well done Edd and team.

[@atomcooper]

Can't wait to see how you fix this one Edd!

[@choochie4]

Same sort of thing happened to me earlier this year while torqing a control arm bolt, with captive nut in the chassis, managed to drill and tap a larger diameter. Don't fancy working with Aluminium...

[@richardhunt809]

“So it’s not going to spring off and break my fingers, which is rather lovely” 😆

[@fernandoesparza1543]

Ed, good afternoon. Impressive your work and capacity for solution and innovation. Your videos are just great. Best regards from México. Fernando Esparza M.

[@Carlosnufc]

Love to see edd doing what he loves

[@richardappleby9519]

Hey Ed. Just watching you cleaning up the thread. I don’t have dues for all the sizes i use and find a wire brush is a great alternative. Keep up the good work. Rich

[@efsanesarkilar8016]

Türkler daha gelmemiş🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@csn583]

Always an option, but when you're at Edd's level you get tired of "cleaning up" your fingers in the process! Especially wearing gloves and they get shredded, or launching the thing across the room if you're using a grinder. Taps and dies come in multiple grades and there are looser ones specifically for thread cleanup without running the risk of cutting into the threads. As they don't need to be high quality, it's worth picking up a cheap set!

[@edwardb10]

Hey Edd, great name and really glad to be able to see new content from you again. Super unfortunate about the end of this and must just be bad luck. I did the rear struts on my wife's Mini R56 using a similar torque spec without issue. I've always enjoyed working on cars as a hobby but watching you work always inspires me to get out and take on bigger or more complicated repairs - please keep doing what you do and look forward to watching you solve this one!

[@EleanorPeterson]

7:00 - My ghastliest emergency rally repair memory was from a club event in Kenya [East Africa] in the 1980s. We'd smashed (all right - I'D smashed) the nearside front wheel on a buried rock just outside Kericho. The road was red dust - as fine as talcum powder, 18" deep. The stuff's impassable in the wet, but fortunately conditions were dry. We grovelled about underneath the car, trying to stop the jack(s!) from disappearing, then found we'd stopped right on a massive column of ants who were moving nest, carrying eggs and food and grudges. Great big bitey buggers, they were, with a bite like a pair of pliers. 🐜 We were covered in them. They got EVERYWHERE. It still makes me itch thinking about it now.

[@frankiepitt9135]

Be glad when that mini is done and out of the way.

[@kobbetop]

Edd’s KZbin content is so cool that even the threads explode!

[@jeffreyclark1257]

Ouch! Thanks for showing the fail. Makes things more relatable to me. My brother and I broke so much stuff when we were young and hopping up our Datsun 1200.

[@63sgjunior]

You have to admire Eds fortitude when things go wrong. Who hasn't hurled the odd spanner when things go bad?

[@Woopb]

I am so gland I run into your chanel. I love your show Wheeler Dealers👍

[@EnglishBoyHere]

Tea, biscuits and Edd what more could you want for a Friday :)

[@jfk64kennedy95]

BINKY FINISHED, lol

[@mabolzichjjl]

@@jfk64kennedy95 or at least the next episode to come out!

[@jfk64kennedy95]

@@mabolzichjjl August 6th new episode

[@mattcole6230]

Love this show. Gutted to hear that thread stripping. Every mechanics nightmare!

[@Mr_Reset]

What a shame, I hope it’s an easy fix! So much effort! Looking good 👍🏼

[@grahamb1]

Another vote here for using Timeserts. I use them all the time in aluminium and they make a great repair. They also give you the confidence to screw bolts in multiple times without fear of the threads stripping. Where I have a need for undoing bolts and replacing them multiple times at high torque I now fit them from new rather than waiting for the threads to strip.

[@sblagg527]

Another vote here as well- I just ordered a timesert kit to fix stripped out oil pressure switch threads in my 69 beetle, worked like a charm and seems to be quite a bit more robust than a helicoil.

[@MarkoCoomo]

Nice edit at the end, when the threads collapse, then you calmly roll back .. is there a Christmas DVD available with the un-edited cut? 😉

[@bluesteel7171]

I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure a cup of tea was had before the roll back ending was shot... Poor Edd :(

[@davidquirk8097]

I think I'd be checking my bolt figures here. That torque seemed pretty high into Aluminium to me given that it's an unmodified thread, no insert. I bet that was built with a DC Spindle or an SPS Wrench during assembly if the number really is that high. Breakback torque wrenches aren't normally reckoned to be that accurate (if you believe the info from SPS or Kamex)

[@dylandavies8106]

I thought that the torque setting was too much for a soft metal. Poor ed. Great series love it.

[@NFTYCG]

🤣

[@happyjohnwalks]

That sound at the end, gutting, instantly knowing you wasted all your time and Neil's money! I feel for you both.

[@stuartf6385]

The torque figure is probably for a dry assembly (no grease) adding a lubricant makes a significant difference

[@lvlavericktheoutsider1090]

Mmm... I guess you betted right

[@kihestad]

Good observation! I would assume the torque should be dialed down a couple of notches when adding copper paste on ordinary steel bolts with nuts as well.

[@szingertibike]

What toueque need to be used with greese ?

[@stuartf6385]

@@szingertibike about 40% less

[@szingertibike]

@@stuartf6385 thanks stuart i think its better not use any greese just screw them dry :D

[@dzBOXgaming]

Nice work edd and sorry for your time loss keep on

[@stevennicol5754]

Love the show ed, hope you're here for years

[@GeorgeAusters]

Those wheel bearing bolts usually have to be replaced as they are 1 time use only!

[@petes5152]

That "pop" at the end though.... Brutal.

[@waynesmith7487]

Ohhh, my heart wrenched when I heard that big "chunk" sound. I have had bolts break that same way, though I don't recall stripping out the threads quite so violently. Sorry for the complications!

[@rissole_dot_exe]

Using drop tanks from fighter jets as drag racing car is GENIUS! I never actually ever thought of that! Usually people do create them from scratch using pile of aluminium bars and sheets. But this? Very promising one so far!

[@tokeintate]

I've been watching you for years now Ed and I love your new channel I'm a fellow grease junkie.

[@ExconnorS]

THIS IS BRILLIANT!

[@smOOdiebOOdie]

24:52 thank you for being the first English speaking person to pronounce “Öhlins” correctly ! 😅👍🏻👍🏻

[@JBLewis]

Perhaps a counterbore bit to cut a flat landing surface for a nut (or the bolt head!) on the outboard side of the trailing arm, and clear out the remains of the threads in the arm.

[@theoriginalwallace]

I used a longer high tensile bolt & a nyloc nut, Ed. A bit of machining to create a flat & hey presto... problem solved! Cheers. Leigh. PS: I enjoy the Channel immensely!

[@campingstoveman]

Edd, i'm enjoying the series but I would like to say well done with your book, I've enjoyed every page.

[@roverboi100]

EDD this gets better and better thankyou so much i love it x

[@LPWWE06]

ordered Domino's a soon as I saw the upload. Cheers from Israel. A big and a very long time fan

[@thomaswilding8818]

Just about to do the rear suspension on my R53. Will take factory torque specs with a grain of salt for anything into Al. By the way, I'd never heard of wheeler dealers. Just came across your youtube channel. Fantastic! Outstanding video quality mixed with a modest demeanor that I find very relatable. Stands on it's own merits head and shoulders above ALL other youtube car channels. Subscribed

[@huwjones5879]

On my R53 I used experience to tighten up things until they 'felt right'. No problems so far with things coming loose after many miles.

[@skylined5534]

Great stuff, Edd! I'm currently arsing around trying to get my mk2 Clio 1.6 valver back together after a cam belt change, the cam belt was a doddle but the auxiliary belt is a total nightmare 😂 It's strangely relaxing to see someone else do a better job than I could ever hope to! P.s. Neil sounds quite like Tony Pond!

[@varisismaylov9704]

Hi mister Edd China.I love this art because of you.I have been watching you since I was a kid.My biggest dream is to meet you one day Please be understanding as my English is bad

[@valtermatos8384]

Edd God bless you forever. Valter -São Paulo - Brasil.

[@evertzander6924]

So "glad" to se that im not the only one to get into unexpected troble. Keep up the good works. Like your show. 👍👏🙂

[@necmettinozbay5453]

Sen zeki ve dürüst ahlaklı birisin seni seviyoruz

[@nitt3rz]

The question about the drag racer reminded me of an episode of monster garage, where Edd helped to design/build a drag racing milk-float.

[@eddchina]

That was great fin to build. I think we called it ‘Full Cream Ahead’ or som thing just as brilliant. Did it again some years later with eBay, WSR and Tom Onslow-Cole for a Guinness World Record!

[@Peggthomas]

Ed, use a timesert, they are used to repair cylinder blocks and are signed off for use by most OEMs even on head bolts, used a fair few on my Triumph (motorbikes) aluminium crankcases.

[@stevehedgecock2560]

Yes timesert is the way to go, we use those at work and have proved to be very reliable. Much better than a wire insert.

[@thecharmingcrow]

Another vote for Timesert. Have used on stripped captive nuts in body for subframe bolts >150Nm. Having said that the material they were going into was steel so not sure of their external threads will just transfer the stripping action to that lesser aluminium arm. It would be over a greater surface area (external treads) though so should be ok??

[@alanbradford3130]

I cannot wait for the next episode dealing with the "crack" of those aluminum threads. This happened to me recently when I was installing an air conditioner compressor on a Honda. I just stopped tightening the bolt and just left it like that. I am quite sure that was NOT the right thing to do, but the car is old and I just needed it to work for a while until I got another car. There has been no ill effects, the air works and the belt doesn't squeal but I am sure there is a better way.

[@paddyhall523]

Usually you'd panic but then having Edd on the job.. you wouldn't even cry lol - Paddy, Grimsby.

[@sq1rlsqu4d]

This channel's really found its feet after a shaky start. Keep Neil on as a co-presenter, you make a good pair :)

[@TRISTANorTRIS]

so glad I hung on for the burp

[@GavinY]

I felt that last snap even before he announced , I thought that doesn't sound right

[@rodm5968]

Reminds me of all the things I use to have to put Solid inserts into, when in industry. All the alloy parts that were in an out all the time. Solid insert and it too the techs and fitters 6months -1 year before it needed another repair. Or never again in many cases. Surprised it need that much torque in the Alloy.

[@massoud139]

Edd , keep up the good job .

[@tomf3150]

After the "Jamais Contente", behold the new electrical monster.

[@lvlavericktheoutsider1090]

I read Tom... I up-vote

[@andrewlewis369]

Oh what a bigger that is close to the end and snap sorry to see that happen after all your hard work

[@ahmetyaserikball]

Edd china best mechanic in world

[@stevenwinfield1486]

I haven’t watched it yet but believe me I can’t bloody wait. Waiting for my curry before I do haha. Cheers again edd. This mini is going to be epic!!

[@shan6021]

Love the warts and all.

[@ram8114]

Se te extrañaba mucho Edd!!!!!

[@hamitbe]

that ending was sad, Edd... good luck with it!