Mini tub wheel well in one piece, Doubtful - Part 1

In this Video I show the process of laying out a one piece mini tub wheel well. Explain the basics of shrinking and thickening the metal on the power hammer, and show the first set of shrinks to start pulling the panel around.

[@scarr397]

I appreciate the details you dive into versus others that leave out all this pertinent gold you are giving us. Thank you Mike

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@stanstelmach5326 the material gets thicker at the shrank area. So the material is compressed. If the grains dont move and stack up how would the material get thicker in the areas of shrink?

[@chriszucker7500]

Hands down...absolute best shrinking explanation and demonstration on shrinking I've ever seen. You have an amazing talent to teach as well. Thank you for your commitment to share!!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks i appreciate the kind feedback and that you watched the video.

[@aaronbuildsa]

One thing that still boggles my mind, despite watching yours and several other explanations, is how the thumbnail die works - my brain wants to believe that the metal would just end up right back where it started as you pull back out, yet it doesn't. I still can't quite wrap my head around how the die doesn't just simply "undo" the tuck :)

[@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195]

Thanks for paying attention to the comments asking to show this process and making the videos. Really good content, especially for those that can't take the classes.

[@Fenderbendsfab]

Excellent video Mike, so much great information. My first attempt went so very well with your tutorials. Thank you for this content!

[@spspeedshop]

Well explained video, slowed down well to digest and process Looking forward to the next two or three to button them up

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for checking it out, hope to have 2 more on making this part

[@peterrobins3708]

Brilliant explainer...still don't think I'll ever do it, but if I did I'd be replaying this video quite a few times to get schooled up. Nailed it!!!

[@bobbycole5597]

Thru out my shoulder beating on my tree strump making art deco full fenders for my oxy/acetylene cart. Got bored one night. But gosh darn it those tubes look sexy. Great video

[@cornfieldcustoms]

i am always way more sore after doing shaping by hand than working large panels in the hammer

[@aaronthomson3978]

You killed it Mike. I even made my wife watch and listen to you explain stuff. One extra potentially helpful thought on teaching / explaining - perhaps a pencil sketch of the thickness of material in the shrunk zone through a cross section diagram - help is see where the material is being moved to and how that causes panel to spread in places and contract in others. Keep up the good work Mike. You have a gift to teach. You also just a humble guy. God bless. Aaron.

[@bradcarson3119]

By far one of the most informative videos that I have ever watched your detailed explanation was spot on

[@hbrannerudbrannerud6554]

Impressed by your work and how you explain!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you very much!

[@mcss-ll4yg]

Absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for sharing. Fantastic explanation and very well spoken! The drawings are great also!

[@chapinj]

Thank you. Can't wait for the part 2

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Coming soon, thanks for watching !

[@craigwilson5631]

Thank you so much, your a great teacher, looking forward to part 2

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thank you, part 2 coming soon

[@CatskillMtnCustoms]

Great video Mike 👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks man 👍

[@nothanks7285]

Utmost respect to you metal worker guys. Really impressive to craft something so clean out of what seems like such difficult and unforgiving material. Interesting and informative video!

[@dennisschickling2249]

Nice Work. Looking Forward to Seeing More. Thanks. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY🇺🇸

[@thatshim68]

Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and explain how it works so easily. Enjoy watching an artist work.

[@og190]

Great video , you're explanation of the process is spot on I knew exactly what you meant as you explained it. That power hammer is a beast , the question I have is can you get the same results with a smaller power hammer ? , not everyone can afford a machine that size.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching. Yes smaller hammers are more than capable of doing these parts. I have a smaller hammer that i used to make these on. I just use the big hammer on everything now

[@RonCovell]

Very well done, Mike. I look forward to the next videos!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you very much! hope your doing well Ron

[@mysteriousstranger239]

great explanation can't wait for the next episodes

[@petergardner7741]

Thanks for the detailed and knowledgeable tutorial man 👌👌👌

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching

[@jeffallen3382]

I had no idea that it was even possible to bend theae in one piece. Impressive!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, and thanks for watching

[@jjsyocum]

Great content Mike, this is the stuff 😊

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@hipoman8087]

First one I’ve seen in one piece. Beautiful! Thanks

[@floridian7143]

Thanks for sharing, always interesting and informative!

[@adambergendorff2702]

Wow, Absolutely one of the best teaching video's I have seen! I love seeing that wheel well made in one piece, and I love power tools, I understand they cost a lot of money, but doing it by hand kills my shoulder just thinking about it!

[@SYLVESTERSCUSTOMS]

Great video thank you for sharing your knowledge

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@jackpledger8118]

Really great video on a complex subject.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching

[@michaelkorolev2115]

Thank you some much for sharing and explaining this. And for doing it so thoroughly

[@Moonshinesgarage]

Great video. I'd like to take one of your metal shaping workshops

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watchign, That would be cool if you come to a class !

[@Martincustomdesign]

Great work.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Many many thanks

[@patkimpston117]

Thank you for sharing this information Sir.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

My pleasure

[@matthewbrown5677]

Very good ... Matt Precision Panel craft... Closing the panel a bit can help shrink.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks but i have it under control

[@geneyusko5975]

Mike very good explanation, thank you, what type of steel do you use A K deep drawn metal? Can’t wait tell the next video, thank you once again.

[@duesenberg1000]

Nice drawings

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you so much 😀

[@rtrayl]

Great explanation,

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@joell439]

👍👍😎👍👍 fantastic demo - thank you

[@pauldean8638]

Malleability, tenacity, and elasticity between materials also .

[@cantgoslow]

Not trying to be smart, but what about casting and forging? Two further processes to make parts out of metal?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Casting - melting the metal down and starting over or fresh as mentioned. forging- compressing grain = Shrinking. I think your missing the point and just trying to nit pick my statement to fit some preconceived narrative. But thanks for watching any way

[@cantgoslow]

@@cornfieldcustoms really, are you that sensitive, you could have just educated me to your opinion that forging and shrinking are the same thing, instead of projecting some nefarious intent on my part that just wasn't there- unsubscribed.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thats fine, thanks for subscribing while you did. I am not sensitive about anything. Just clearly explaining the answer. Have a great day

[@RiceCrisp320]

How hot can these panels get when you're working them?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

they get warm from shaping, not hot enough to burn you or anything

[@ericsimpson1176]

Do you use the hammer in the reciprocating mode or the power hammer mode?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Power hammer. I have a lennox recip machine so i only use the power hammer in hammer mode

[@ericsimpson1176]

@@cornfieldcustoms OK, thanks for responding to questions

[@Iconicmetalworks]

When shrinking using thumnail dies how far apart should your tucks be knowing ng it depends on how much shrinking you need and when you lay out your high light lines and blend lines do you go to the high light line with the back of the thumb ?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@Iconicmetalworks how close together is dictated by the pattern. The tuck stops at a kidney bean shape just forward of the male section of the thumb on the tooling. That is where i stop the shrink at the light line. You have to look through the tooling while shrinking to see it.

[@williamaguiar14]

Podcast coming back anytime soon ?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Not for a while.

[@terrybensie4794]

Is there a cheaper way to do the shrinking, not to many of use can afford a machine like yours.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

you can do it by hand with a tucking fork, mallet and lead shot bag but your not going to be able to shrink as deep. something like this would be made in two pieces if doing it by hand

[@terrybensie4794]

@@cornfieldcustoms So basically rolling the edge then welding another panel to it.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

@@terrybensie4794 there is more involved than that but in the short version yes

[@terrybensie4794]

@@cornfieldcustoms Thank you for your time kind sir.

[@cubicinches18]

Oh so much easier than when I was an apprentice we had to do this very same exercise using only a blocking hammer and a block then later hammer and dolly. I prefer this method.

[@VladSkoryna]

Thank you very much for this video, looking forward to the pt2!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching part 2 coming soon!

[@terrygilson7734]

This man is a master of his trade . So refreshing to see that there is still skilled people out there that have pride in their work .

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks but i am far from a master

[@tonywinton7949]

Absolutely amazing work, thanks for sharing. I understand shrinking and stretching from my blacksmith training, but this is another level. Great work can’t wait to see more.

[@markmurray2615]

Excellent explanation and demonstration. Glad I found your channel at the recommendation of Make it Kustom.

[@bryanb5413]

Amazing!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@joenagy8784]

WOW

[@adrianupchurch269]

Enjoyed watching your video very informative and clear tips 👍

[@protuneramolselani8537]

Will it be same effective when done on pullmax

[@cornfieldcustoms]

yes and no. You can use thumbnail dies in a pull max but it not as clean or effective. the hammer is spring loaded with more tool gap and the upper anvil get thrown by the springs to hammer. the pullmax is a fixed stroke so it wont hit as hard and tooling has to be tight to close the tuck. as the material get thicker by shrinking it will begin to stretch out unless you are constantly changing tool gap settings. I rarely ever do any shrink work on a pullmax.

[@protuneramolselani8537]

@@cornfieldcustoms understood..thankyou for replying

[@edsmachine93]

Nice work and explanations. It amazed me to see this done. Have a great day. 👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, i appreciate you checking it out

[@yosmith1]

fascinating process

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, it changes the way you think about making parts when you dive into shaping

[@chrismawby6241]

Do u stop the shrink on the radius line with the front or the back of the thumb nail

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Neither, you stop it at the point where the shrink stops. In the video at the point where i show you the unclosed tuck, it is the front U shape of the tuck. You stop that U at the line

[@chrismawby6241]

@@cornfieldcustoms thank u for clarification it makes sense to me now

[@Егор-л5в5т]

Everything seems interesting, but 20 minutes of chatter and 5 minutes of action. 5+5 would be enough. Good luck

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching but talking through ,in detail, of exactly what is taking place in pretty important. Its not like i am talking about the weather for 20 mins. Lol

[@nicholassmith2353]

Very informative .. cannot wait to see the rest of the process ! Truly incredible !

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it!

[@Group-Five-Industries]

Great info as always!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks again!

[@davidreames7032]

If l was a young man l would be at your door looking for a job. This work is fascinating! You sir are a genius and a master of this art. Outstanding teaching skills also. I can’t say enough good about you! Keep up the videos… please!

[@theoldstationhand]

Been watching you for a while now but just subscribed - I'm a big fan of metal guru's! Great work and thanks for sharing. Cheers.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Awesome, thank you! I appreciate the Subscribe

[@Robert-cd2ht]

Thank you for the video Mike I am forming some rockers and floor pan for my truck without even the simplest body tools. still this is education for the soul. Will make a Bonsai to honor your commitment to quality.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Right on

[@corinamagnusson6479]

Awesome 👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@andreworchard402]

Great

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thank you

[@mwill87428]

Are you using AK material? Great explanation on the process. Thanks

[@cornfieldcustoms]

No just standard cold roll

[@tonyscott8126]

When if ever would you use a bag? I would love to have your equipment but not quite there.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

i rarely shape much in a bag any more personally, when i do it is just faster to block out an area with a mallet than set up one of the hammers

[@jasonfikes9514]

I was just looking at that post earlier this evening trying to figure out how you did that wheel tub in one piece. Great explanation of the process. Thanks for sharing this. ✌️😁

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@1960fl]

Great video, this made the lightbulb come on :-) thank you.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching

[@franksgarage8551]

More of this i watch, the more i understand.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks

[@_the_Chad_]

I'm in for episode 2 for sure! My question is if you didn't have a power hammer would you split this into 2 pieces?

[@cornfieldcustoms]

yes if you were doing this with hand tools or some lighter power tools 2 sections would be the only way to achieve it, unless you spin it and cut out, but that a whole different topic

[@McGlynnOnMaking2024]

Thanks Mike! Great video, loads of good information. A key takeaway for me is to focus on getting the shrinks to accurately form the radius of the bend before worrying about the floppy outer edge. I know how much extra effort it is to produce videos on top of actually getting work done, much appreciated!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching, start and stop points are super important and often over looked

[@billyreeves4360]

This is great thanks ,i am 78 and still learning can.t wait to see more Bill

[@cornfieldcustoms]

More to come!

[@MrCGChief]

For the algo.

[@tomthompson7400]

That is spectacular workmanship.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thank you

[@garymucher4082]

Amazing knowledge and abilities. I am assuming you made many "mistakes" along the way to get to this point of your learning abilities. And I also assume you didn't start with the power hammer machine, but hand tools as you progressed. So that is where most of us are presently working with metal forming. Thanks for the lesson and video...

[@lunkydog]

Don't sell yourself short on your drawing skills. Although I've seen the thumbnail dies used plenty the view you chose and talking about being pulled back thru finally made sense to me for the first time. Kind of a "lightbulb" moment for me.

[@thomasking2081]

GREAT TUTORIAL MIKE, THANKS

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dukesgarage]

AMAZING information!! Incredible! Thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@davetyson2331]

great video thanks

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks, make sure to check out the rest of the series on it

[@samperras]

Nice to meet you, Karl said you were informative, He was right Thanks for the video

[@joseph317]

Much appreciated

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for watching

[@yolocah]

how cool is this video

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for checking it out

[@rowycoracing]

Very helpful. Thanks for posting.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

[@rowycoracing]

@@cornfieldcustoms I tried making that piece on my MH19 early this year. I never could get the wavy part to come all the way over and tighten up the piece. After watching your part 1 I am thinking that I didn’t have the hammer blow intensity set right. Ultimately I ended up making the pieces in 2 parts using a round over die (covell tank die) in the bead roller and then welding the center of the radius. They came out OK but not great. After I watch you finish the one that you are making I will try making mine on the hammer again. I never installed the ones I made in the spring. Anyway thanks again for the post. It is much appreciated.

[@paulnewton943]

Learning at this level is never boring. Please take as long as you like. Real time video is monkey see monke do. 👍

[@goldenrepairs728]

Just subscribe was recommended by make it custom 👍

[@williamchandler6151]

Great video!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks!

[@rwcarrinvestmentco.3167]

Great vid 👌

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks

[@testpilot6456]

Thanks for the straightforward explanation.

[@bobgaylord8883]

Very clear explanation of shrinking/ stretching - best I've ever heard !

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

[@jamesforde6102]

Thanks man , explained very well 😎👍

[@jimsullivan2729]

Great video. I can't wait for part 2.

[@fredhoffman1017]

Thank you very much for sharing your expertise on KZbin. Very interesting. You do a great job of explaining the whole process of shrinking metal. You do amazing work. Thanks again.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks for the kind words and watching

[@rsigrowers3587]

wow, I'm just stunned!

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching

[@rsigrowers3587]

@@cornfieldcustoms watch nothing!, I want to go live in your shop for a year and learn what you know

[@ArcticxBeaver]

This was a great video, you're a great teacher Mike. If you were to make this part with a mallet and stump, you'd have to flip the panel, right? When you crush the tucks with a mallet, the panel is pushed outwards (convex). I'm trying to figure out how I could do something similar with hand tools.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

if you were to make this with a mallet and a stump you would have to make it in 2 pieces and weld them together

[@kennymcquinkiss8292]

G.R.E.A.T. VIDEO. Thank you

[@thejameslealartco.7625]

Drawings looked spot on bro

[@manga12]

well actually you can also drill metal draw it, upset it, and rivet it, but I suppose thats a differant type of metal work and names for much the same concepts but you say you offer classes and lessons in shaping and crafting? hmm sounds like I might be interested if I had the time. but thanks for showing us the layout, its so seamless its a work of art

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Drilling is a form of cutting, drawing is a form of stretching it, riveting is a form of attachment

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Upsetting is thickening = shrinking

[@manga12]

@@cornfieldcustoms ah yes but you said welding, a differant method of attachment, and of course the operations I mentioed have more to do with bar stock or slug metal not thin plate or sheet metal, but I guess you do thick stuff too bending frame and tube and its crazy how well it works without even kinking the metal heh, I guess I am trying to be a wiseguy thats a big hammer, how much force does it hit with at max pressure per blow, I am more familier with forging type power hammers or presses which have the force of the ram or weight of the hammer, not necessarily the blows per minute.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

welding and attaching are totally different things. lets say you have 2 pieces of .500 1018 Mild steel. You forge weld them together ( 100 % clean, no cold shuts, or delam, a perfect forge weld) , what do you have? 1 solid billet of 1018 mild steel. you can not go back in and separate the 2 back into their own individual pieces. now take 2 identical pieces of .500 1018 Mild steel, you rivet ( bolt, tape, glue, zip tie) the 2 pieces together, What do you have? 2 pieces of 1018 mild steel rivet ( attached ) together. you can easily knock the rivet out and you are back to the 2 individual pieces you started with. Welding and attaching are different theories and i was not talking about attaching since it doesnt have anything to do with the 5 core principles of modifying a ( singular) piece of metal. it doest matter material shape size or thickness, you want to modify a piece of metal you are shrinking, stretching, cutting, bending, or welding.

[@manga12]

@@cornfieldcustoms right but I was playing devils advocate since they weren't mentioned by name, so how much force does the powerhammer hit with at max pressure curious to compare to a forging power hammer.

[@RevengeCustomPaintCo]

This is awesome!! I’ll need to make similar wheel tubs for my project soon, so to see them come together is very inspiring.

[@cornfieldcustoms]

thanks for watching , hopefully it was helpful

[@RevengeCustomPaintCo]

@@cornfieldcustoms it was!! I was trying to get my head around how to make the radius happen without wrecking the area that need to remain flat. Can’t wait to see part2!!

[@deanforrest7724]

Wow. That is some serious shrinking and stretching of metal. Nice job! 👍

[@cornfieldcustoms]

Thanks