Miniature Diesel Generator Diagnose, Repair, Test ONAN RV QD3200

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@TheTylerWhit
@TheTylerWhit Жыл бұрын
This is just what is needed for partial rv backup. Operates the ac and stuff perfectly. kzbin.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y is quieter than my rv generator. Only suggestion is that it needs a fuel shutoff valve. So it is easier to store.
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 5 жыл бұрын
It's really disappointing that supposed professionals didn't even bother to carry out the most basic diagnostics to identify the problem with the engine, rather than just replace the entire unit! Your video was truly excellent, thank you for taking the time to record, edit and publish your work. I'm delighted to have found your channel and think that you inspire and encourage others to have the confidence to work on machines that they otherwise wouldn't!
@robertschemonia5617
@robertschemonia5617 5 жыл бұрын
As a professional mechanic, there may have been a bit more at play on this one. Labor rates, parts, and turnaround time quite possibly could have been a reason to replace it. If you're on vacation for 2 weeks, and it's gonna take 5 weeks to fix, lots of people would just say junk that one, install a new one. I believe he said this was a warranty replacement by Cummins too. They might have had something to do with that.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
Time number one reason and frac jobs are millions of bucks Sir. Can’t run equipment or pumps with out frac van It’s all about time and money not that our mechanics can’t fix it
@willthomsen7569
@willthomsen7569 Жыл бұрын
What labor and parts? He had it running after tightening one thing that’s just proper diagnostics. Original poster had a good point imo excuses excuses as usual
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen Жыл бұрын
@@willthomsen7569 he had to remove a bunch of stuff in the way to get to the valve cover.
@willthomsen7569
@willthomsen7569 Жыл бұрын
Yup god forbid somebody has to do something. If the facia is rotten we have to take the gutter off. When we redo the siding we have to deal with the electric and water meters and weatherhead. You’re a mechanic you’re supposed to be all tooled up for this, set up to get the job done. The answer is always “buy a new one” these days
@Kirkbdavis
@Kirkbdavis 5 жыл бұрын
These are sweet generators. I had a 7500 Onan quiet diesel in a RV I used to own. Giving up that generator was the most difficult part of selling it. That is a nice find & fix. Enjoy your channel.
@DrFiero
@DrFiero 5 жыл бұрын
Your 7500 would eat this thing for breakfast. You have (had) a fantastic Kubota 3cyl that would run for 20K hours. Only problem they had was tossing the magnets off in the early versions (bad glue). That more or less wrote them off if you were paying for labour. Probably repaired 10 that did that!
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought my 1st motor home it is day 2015 Coachman prism 2150 and it has the same generator and it kept turning off every 10 minutes and I thought something was wrong with it, come to find out it was just low on oil. These generators appear to be really good. Thank you so much for the video.
@Molly8014
@Molly8014 5 жыл бұрын
I love companies that dispose of good equipment. I was awarded the Fred Sanford award at the aerospace company I worked for. I was the senior dumpster diver! Oh.....the treasures!
@ckyownz9
@ckyownz9 4 жыл бұрын
i just saw a company throw away like 5000-10000 dollars worth of brand new allenbradley plc equipment ......im like can i take it out of the dumpster they were like noooooooo like wtf!!!!! i wouldn't even sell it i would use it for a home project or to learn like wtf donate it to a school or something
@archdukeofsynth
@archdukeofsynth 4 жыл бұрын
@@ckyownz9 lol, you don't ask. You come back later.
@davidhunt3161
@davidhunt3161 4 жыл бұрын
thief what you stole belongs to the skip company
@junioraotu7655
@junioraotu7655 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidhunt3161 ok, karen.
@frigglebiscuit7484
@frigglebiscuit7484 4 жыл бұрын
@@ckyownz9 if they throw it away, they relinquish ownership. you can dumpster dive all you want. they only thing they can do is tell you to leave for tresspass.
@niklasalmaas6369
@niklasalmaas6369 3 жыл бұрын
I repaired my diesel generator yesterday. Broke down this fall. Had sucked up some metal parts from the air filter. Was a 3" long shred in the intake valve. Had to sand it down and adjust it and it was golden, exept from the air filter which was relieved of its 14 year long journey. :D
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
Yep same one we use on frac jobs in frac vans Have changed out alot of them over the years Very good equipment, oil change every week to ensure life was policy, royal puperal oil only
@mustie1
@mustie1 5 жыл бұрын
thats a real nice machine, great score,
@christianmarks431
@christianmarks431 5 жыл бұрын
Love your video man
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 5 жыл бұрын
It is nice, isn't it Mustie! If everything pans out, see you @Rice-O-Rama. Bring Brian! That VWNut!!
@tronixfix
@tronixfix 4 жыл бұрын
Yoooo 😄
@sasquatch5680
@sasquatch5680 4 жыл бұрын
Hey its my fav repair guy MUSTIE 1.
@muesli4597
@muesli4597 4 жыл бұрын
You know you’re doing something right when Mustie1 AND TroniXFiX both commented.
@Narwaro
@Narwaro 5 жыл бұрын
Nice generator. I guess this was an easy fix for a perfectly good diesel generator. I always appreciate when people throw out stuff for free or almost free that I can repair.
@aleblanc3547
@aleblanc3547 5 жыл бұрын
Mike, you have the coolest tools for this business and more importantly, twice the knowledge anyone needs to get the job done. It looks like you were still at the old house, too. Thanks, bud...great video.
@deanmarsh1452
@deanmarsh1452 5 жыл бұрын
Wet stacked. Been run underloaded all it's life. You really need to load them 75%> of their rating to prevent that. I think you've caught it in time though 🙏👍 I always run our works backup generator hard on tests!
@ghettobikelife8833
@ghettobikelife8833 5 жыл бұрын
Dean Marsh do you think an rv generator would survive alright driving a welder? The gen has more than enough wattage but the inrush current will be very high as you start and stop welding
@isettech
@isettech 5 жыл бұрын
@@ghettobikelife8833 Consumer grade generators tend to top out at the nameplate rating with maybe a 5 second overload for starting an AC. The inverter might not have the power headroom needed for welding. Inverters do not like highly reactive loads. For a welder, it should run a small unit that runs on 120Volt, but it won't run a 240 volt unit. The Eco mode on many portable generators is unable to cope with a high current start without turning off Eco mode first. I prefer commercial Diesel generators instead of consumer grade stuff as they run all day at 80% load. (example a genie light tower running 4 lights uses 1000 Watts per lamp + the ballast load. The generator is rated for 6KW. Reading the specs on the engine/generator combo inside, it can take 120% overload for 10 minutes. It has a 30A 240V outlet.
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 5 жыл бұрын
I ran into this problem with small gensets a lot. Running these under low load conditions is bad. Love that old Milspec load bank.
@psionl0
@psionl0 5 жыл бұрын
I think the reason for the "pop" on the intake is simpler than the one you suggested. With the exhaust valve not opening, the exhaust stroke would effectively be another compression stroke so when the intake valve opens, the cylinder is under pressure again.
@jakecourtright1224
@jakecourtright1224 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was looking at buying this generator and trying to get all info before purchase. Very informative for future trouble shooting and doing increased preventative maintenance. Thanks, Great Job!
@robertmorales2511
@robertmorales2511 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll sell you mine $4000 only has 45 hours.
@Nudnik1
@Nudnik1 5 жыл бұрын
Hatz so loud... really nice old load bank love to find one. I set up a one mega watt one to test Nuke back up gensets . A Giant toaster. Excellent work thanks.
@mohinderkaur6671
@mohinderkaur6671 5 жыл бұрын
electric dryer heating element + fan
@TomSommer
@TomSommer 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. I love watching a pro. This was a great example of "one man's garbage is another man's treasure"'. Thank you for sharing.
@dieseldanhockey2303
@dieseldanhockey2303 5 жыл бұрын
I used to rebuild kubota's and perkins/cat c2.2 engines. Using starting fluid was the cause of push rods mysteriously poping out of place. I'd bet someone used too much ether and then they thought they had destroyed the engine. Nice to see another abused diesel brought back to life.
@CumminsDslPwr
@CumminsDslPwr 5 жыл бұрын
If that little rig were mine, I would engineer a remote mount oil filter, and an external oil cooler. It would increase the oil capacity, and add a second form of heat rejection. It would probably double or triple its life expectancy also.
@Shane-Singleton
@Shane-Singleton 4 жыл бұрын
Would be a cool thing to do from an engineering project standpoint. But the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze on a small unit like that.
@bentboybbz
@bentboybbz 4 жыл бұрын
1.1 quarts is not much for sure. Bet that shortens engine life. Especially in such a tight hot environment. I agree an external oil cooler for cooling and the extra capacity would for sure extend the poor girls life quite a bit. People saying its not worth it. A reliable long lasting compact 3kw gen is worth much more than a bulky broken one. Js. ✌👍👌
@aterack833
@aterack833 4 жыл бұрын
CumminsDslPwr also toss in a centrifugal filter for good measure... room you say? Why look over there 👉... muffler? Never seen her
@noahandthefurry4573
@noahandthefurry4573 2 жыл бұрын
or just change it more often?
@RANDALLOLOGY
@RANDALLOLOGY 5 жыл бұрын
Right place, right time to get that baby. Your load bank is an oldie. Saw selenium rectifiers on the bottom between the transformers. Those we're from back in my day.lol
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 5 жыл бұрын
As we say around here Mike,...you seem to have "made out like a bandit" with this one. Nice little gen-set. Very interesting video,..Thank you for this one.
@chriholt
@chriholt 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a sweet little genny.i was thinking the same thing about that muffler maybe being too clogged up. Looking forward to part two!
@WARD5KUSTOMZ
@WARD5KUSTOMZ 5 жыл бұрын
Or could just use a small tractor muffler
@FBPrepping
@FBPrepping 5 жыл бұрын
Quite likely dude.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
We use to change out muffler every 6 months but frac jobs have increased to the point it’s changed oil filters and run it tell it’s done, new ones at yard waiting for 3 hour change out Time and money
@albertonex19
@albertonex19 5 жыл бұрын
Nice find. From experience these engine give lots of valve trouble especially on the exhaust side, they need to be checked every 250 hours max, likewise as you said the oil should be changed every 40-50 hours. Thanks for uploading.
@Luzt.
@Luzt. 5 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in reasons for such frequent oil change. Please enlighten me.
@shackman9566
@shackman9566 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you again. I have had no knowledge of these small diesel engines and generators. I currently am off grid and using solar and gas generators for heavier loads and tools. I would like to have a slightly larger diesel with remote control and monitor. Your videos have been very helpful increasing my general knowledge. Especially the fact that they don't like running at lighter loads.
@miked9000
@miked9000 5 жыл бұрын
Cool repair job and everything, but seeing an old international coffee tin was the highlight for me. Havent seen one of those in 20 years!
@wolvesone
@wolvesone Жыл бұрын
Man gensets have come a long way the old (1986 GMC) rehab truck i drove for the fd ran an old onan gas genset that could not even hit 2kw and it was a pain to start we would have to turn it on as soon as left station and let it run the entire time we were responding before it would smooth out enough to make power
@gregprince2523
@gregprince2523 5 жыл бұрын
Hoss, 369 hrs is damn near brand new on that little Jewel!! my little Carrier Comfort Pro has 17,000 plus on her and still goin strong on my big rig!
@beckywatt5048
@beckywatt5048 5 жыл бұрын
That's a whole different animal , made to take the hours.
@gregprince2523
@gregprince2523 4 жыл бұрын
@jason9022 it is kubota
@garyferrell6226
@garyferrell6226 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was only looking for how to change oil in this generator. But...nothing is better than hearing about a potential problem down the road. Your video is extremely informative and told me volumes about this small diesel engine. I just bought a '22 Winnebago View 24D with this QD 3200 generator. Have not yet gotten to 20 hours, so I'm about to do the first oil change. Based on how little oil is in this engine, I plan to change oil every 125 hours (instead of recommended 250 hours) as we put some time on it.
@SmallEngineMechanic
@SmallEngineMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad the video was useful!
@psuitt
@psuitt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for an extremely entertaining and informative video. I was impressed by your skill at diagnosing and repair. I love small generators, what a nice find!
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 5 жыл бұрын
It just needed to be cleared (run). That is such an awesome unit. I used to hate diesel. I was tainted by old Mercedes cars that sucked. Rear bumpers covered in soot. I am watching a lot of videos that make me love diesel. They run forever. Thanks, SEM!
@videolabguy
@videolabguy 5 жыл бұрын
44:00 - That's what I'd call your carbon foot print! Great job!
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly opposite - captured carbon!
@byebye9785
@byebye9785 5 жыл бұрын
That is a great generator. Here in Scotland I fitted a UK spec Dometic TEC 30D to my RV (have never even started the original twin cylinder Kohler, with petrol being about £1.30 a litre, or about $6.40/gal) It is a Hatz diesel and the controller looks very similar. Mine started with zero hours, now it has 518 on the clock. Mine needed a new fuel pump to get it going, it later needed a new exhaust pipe and a new air filter as it sucked in it's own exhaust from the split in the pipe. Under partial load it only uses about hslf a litre per hour and on a rainy day it can dry the ground under the RV. Mine's in a basement compartment with a vent at the side and bottom, makes it very slightly quieter.
@wyrtwister4260
@wyrtwister4260 5 жыл бұрын
1/2 liter an hour ? Of diesel ? How much does diesel cost ? I was thinking , that generator should power one , maybe two inverter drive 12,000 BTU ductless mini split A/C - heat pumps . Wyr God bless
@byebye9785
@byebye9785 5 жыл бұрын
It's rated for 2.5KW at 0.7 litres per hour at that and cuts out quickly at a little over 2.5KW. It'll certainly power one 12,000BTU split system, I've never had an inverter drive air conditioner, so don't know how intelligent they are, if they can be linked and programmed not to run at full power at the same time, then certainly. Once when driving from one campsite to another, my youngest daughter turned on 4 electric heaters, about 5KW in total, just by chance the thermostats were all clicking on and off at different times and the generator managed. For 2 heaters on a low setting and the battery chargers it's supplying about 1.5KW and using about 0.5 litres per hour, diesel is about £1.34ish, although I could use duty free diesel at about 70p a litre last time I checked, although I wouldn't fill up at a truck stop if the RV itself was diesel powered, mine's not so there's no risk of being harassed by the taxman. One other interesting feature the generator has (mine's an old 2008 model) is it can be daisychained to another TEC 30D for 5KW of power. I'm not sure how I ever found the money for one, I couldn't afford two, anyway I haven't seen it mentioned in the specifications for newer models, so I don't know if that feature is even still supported. If you have many thousands to spend on a generator, I'd check out some of the Cummins Onan water cooled generators. I saw one in a health service semi trailer parked in a supermarket carpark that I had no idea was even there when stood beside it, until a service engineer opened up the compartment it lived in. In the same place, I can hear mine from half way across the car park!
@wyrtwister4260
@wyrtwister4260 5 жыл бұрын
@@byebye9785 So , maybe $ 25 a 24 hour day , for you to run your generator ? We have a 25 kw trailer mounted diesel generator at work . Would love to have it , too . :-) Thanks , :-) Wyr God bless
@byebye9785
@byebye9785 5 жыл бұрын
Yes that's about right. Your worst case scenario is about $18/24h in California, or $12.45 at about $2.80/Gal at full load for 24H. I bet it'd be less than $10 a day in quite a few states, the AC will use less power at night (or during the day up north in winter as a heat pump - which they're really good at). Back in 2011 at a house I used to live in, I bought a 12KW 415V 3 phase generator. A lot of businesses and almost zero homes have multi phase power here in the UK and back then 415V 3 phase equipment, costing many thousands new could be had second hand on eBay for a few hundred. I got a 4 Ton Hydraulic 4 post lift, compressor, a Lincoln Electric MIG welder and a Lincoln Invertec plasma cutter, an added bonus was I could get 240V off one of the phases for the house when winter weather knocked out the power. It had weatherproof housing and all it's doors locked, but it was really expensive, so I bought an old airport laundry trailer to mount inside.
@MrJerryjam
@MrJerryjam 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I thought everything was going to be ok when you picked up the rocker arm and pulled out the undamaged pushrod. I did not expect that much soot. I hope you banged the muffler with a rubber hammer and forced air through the muffler; while you had the muffler out. Good find for you. Handy to have around.
@peterparsons7141
@peterparsons7141 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid. What’s interesting is that this vid has value today as when it was made. These units are fairly common so when I’m shopping I’m armed with a little info. BEt this was a common design, build problem and not a show stopper.
@robertgarbe6348
@robertgarbe6348 5 жыл бұрын
I have a little 6 hp BMW diesel in my sailboat circa 1979. Has a Hatz motor marinized by BMW. Still running after 40 years.
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 5 жыл бұрын
I rebuilt one of those. Only one I've ever seen.
@markalley4810
@markalley4810 5 жыл бұрын
Man you are lucky! I have a NexGen in my sailboat and I have had nothing but problems with it. I'm about ready to toss it overboard.
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 5 жыл бұрын
@@markalley4810 Do your have the belt driven 3.5KW with the single cylinder EA300 Kubota? I know them well.
@markalley4810
@markalley4810 5 жыл бұрын
@@gcrauwels941 Good morning. Yes I have the belt drive and Kubota.
@markalley4810
@markalley4810 5 жыл бұрын
Ok now that I've had a cup of coffee I should give you some more information. The engine itself runs great, water cooled, kept up with oil changes and always run it under a load. 16000 BTU air conditioner, microwave, battery charger, TV. I have replaced the mother board three times now. Generator sits in a sound proof box and has a blower to vent heat. I have pulled the unit from the boat four times and had a mechanic go thru it thoroughly and I encounter the same problem every time. A generator will run great for about 4 to 5 hours and then it just quits producing electricity. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you can give me on this until.
@tomlawrence1555
@tomlawrence1555 5 жыл бұрын
Have the same generator on my 2017 Winnebago View. The orange wire is the temp sensor. Looks like the sensor end is cut off as the metal tip goes into the air filter housing. They are notorious for shutting down in the hot weather. The red button inside the housing actually shuts off the fuel solenoid to stop the engine. My solenoid got stuck open and would not shut off. Replaced the solenoid and all good now. Great video for my next problem with this generator!
@KiwiCatherineJemma
@KiwiCatherineJemma 5 жыл бұрын
Nice loadbank ! I would've just had a round-up of various kitchen appliances (we are 230 volts, 50Hz here), water kettle, toaster, electric room heater etc and plugged in enough to bring it up to the required amount. (But I just found this channel) and it looks like you fix generators a lot, so worth it for you to have a dedicated load-bank.
@heikopanzlaff3789
@heikopanzlaff3789 4 жыл бұрын
Did a training on generators at the German Air Force. We used a Neff kitchen stove / oven as load resistor ...
@rossr6616
@rossr6616 11 ай бұрын
“the wife’s Load Bank” 😂
@realrvlife7964
@realrvlife7964 5 жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis and repair. Nice little generator to boot. I hadn't thought about a diesel one for the fifth wheel but after seeing this it may be the way to go as I carry extra diesel for the truck when he head back into the woods. Thanks for sharing.
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf 5 жыл бұрын
Mike, this is the best video , by far and away, you ever put out! Tony better watch his back!!!,,
@tallman8ft
@tallman8ft 4 жыл бұрын
brought a silent gen for 5k from a company for $200 and made 5k off of it after spending no money on it to fix it a wire came off the display panel 😁....fixed alot of those push rod problems too,stock valves, bugs in the intake and out for sitting to long etc....love the video
@MisterClaws
@MisterClaws 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet generator. good job bringing it back to life.
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 5 жыл бұрын
Just to think it was headed to the scraper. It was an easy fix from someone who knows what their doing.
@DAYTIME1231
@DAYTIME1231 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have one in my RV. Getting to see it opened up is a real treat. Mine is about 10 years old and only 100 hours on it.
@jondrew55
@jondrew55 5 жыл бұрын
First of all, ignore the comments about your camerawork. Its fine. Maybe get a mini tripod or a head mount for giggles. Loved your running commentary. Very informative. Just subscribed
@CurtisDrew1
@CurtisDrew1 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the VID. That's the kind of stuff I do for fun. I have several small gas generators I picked up like that. Funny no one even tried to fix them. Just tossed them and replaced them. I'll bet that thing will quiet down a lot when you put the intake cap back on it. Like running a car motor without an air cleaner cover. Had a Diesel Motorcyle with one of those single cylinder diesel motors in it. Got 120 MPG but could only get 55 MPH out of it because it was only a 10 HP engine. Stereet legal but rode like a kids mini bike with a CV transmission. Sold it to a guy in Iowa and he rides it to work everyday.......
@Jimmyzb36
@Jimmyzb36 5 жыл бұрын
What an effective tune up! Great job !!!! Love me some Diesel!!!!
@HGHG-yg3tb
@HGHG-yg3tb 4 жыл бұрын
When I first started watching I thought this is just another shade tree mechanic video. I became apparent pretty quick that you know what you are doing (even before I seen your shop). Anyways, you made great and very informative video and gave some good advice about the wet stacking.By the way, I love the surplus military load bank.....brought back many fond memories. I just to test generators at 80% for about 2 hours when I worked on them.
@mssmallenginemechanic2594
@mssmallenginemechanic2594 5 жыл бұрын
Good job babe, and for everyone saying he needs a tripod... he has one, I may or may not have misplaced it during our move, but I will get him another one soon! Thanks for watching everyone!
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 5 жыл бұрын
I dont suppose that there is a reward for finding the tripod is there ? If yes, i would like to claim the price. Look at the left side of the video at 19:52
@mssmallenginemechanic2594
@mssmallenginemechanic2594 5 жыл бұрын
So it is, he’s been asking me where it was packed and he had it the whole time! He’s gunna get a talking to! Lol
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 5 жыл бұрын
@@mssmallenginemechanic2594 MEN :)
@thelawntractornut5448
@thelawntractornut5448 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching you. You're voice is calming and u really seem to know what ur talking about
@Opposed_Motoring
@Opposed_Motoring 5 жыл бұрын
Just was driving on 295 north and saw your truck, recognized the channel on the banner u had on the truck! Figured I’d say hello!
@jettpro6647
@jettpro6647 5 жыл бұрын
Nice easy fix Mike! I noticed you have a service pit in the floor of your new shop, that will come in handy! Thank you for the video!
@lyallhall243
@lyallhall243 5 жыл бұрын
Discontinued but they did cost $6000.00 new. Good find.
@mgkleym
@mgkleym 5 жыл бұрын
Except I don't think they have been. They seem to still be sold to oems. Tiffin lists a 3.2 kw diesel gen set on their sprinter based motorhome as standard and it is an option at Winnebago on the View. I'm 90% sure that is an onan unit. The only other option that small is from powertech and their's is 3kw. You just can't buy them anywhere as an individual it seems.
@KA7ISVtube
@KA7ISVtube 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos I enjoy your descriptions and explanations of what's going on. You do need more lanterns on your shelf in the back of your garage though.
@JDWorkshop-wn9tt
@JDWorkshop-wn9tt 5 жыл бұрын
“There’s a reason it was replaced”. Haha, I love it! I get that here at my place! Haha!
@HappilyHomicidalHooligan
@HappilyHomicidalHooligan 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! That "Reason" was a Lazy Service Tech that didn't want to do their Job and actually open things up to try figuring out what was wrong with it so they just "looked" at it, said it wasn't worth fixing, reported that to the Manufacturer, who, figuring (incorrectly) the Tech did in fact thoroughly diagnose it, accepted the (False) "Report", listed it as scrap and sent out a new one...
@Ricksp65
@Ricksp65 5 жыл бұрын
Good video man here in Southwest Florida generators are a fact of life I just turned mine up just in time for the hurricane we got coming.
@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51
@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51 5 жыл бұрын
Man i flog the crap out of my gennies and they last years ,,,, treat them mean , (But service them like there made of gold ) they will run for ever ,,,,,Great vid
@joshanderson1019
@joshanderson1019 5 жыл бұрын
man i am just like you........whenever i use my genny i always see that overload light at least once and if i haven't, somethings wrong
@frankbiz
@frankbiz 5 жыл бұрын
That is a nice little generator, definitely worth fixing. Great video. Not many hours on it at all. Worth almost $6,000
@davidstiver4240
@davidstiver4240 5 жыл бұрын
Great job I could use that with haracanie season coming up
@Lukey-Dukey-AUS
@Lukey-Dukey-AUS 5 жыл бұрын
Good job and explanation. I have seen diesel generators smaller probably for about $1000 on ebay not sure if they would last long.
@rkan2
@rkan2 5 жыл бұрын
First price from Google is over 6k$ :D Pretty nice find!
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 5 жыл бұрын
Good old 15/40! I was running a D8-H on a dam job when another crew decided to work saturday. I came in on monday and no 8. I hopped in the foreman's rig and we went hunting. It was hidden in a hollow, still RUNNING! It ran all weekend and had sutted the stack up to about a 1 inch hole. I pulled my coat over my head and yanked the throttle open. Soot rained down for a WHILE! When it slowed down I ran it over and filled it up with fuel and oil. It spit a piece of soot for a day or 2 but no after effects. Tough old lo speed Cat!
@larryschweitzer4904
@larryschweitzer4904 4 жыл бұрын
Long ago we had bought a new D8H. We were on a job with a $10K a day late penalty when the D8 started using gallons of oil per day. No replacement dozer was available so they decided to keep running it. It had over 10,000hrs on the engine. It survived. Nice thing about those engines is the block is good as new after sleeves. The cost for a full overhaul is low considering the price of a new machine.
@H2R5GSXR
@H2R5GSXR 5 жыл бұрын
Found this very entertaining. Thanks for uploading. Nice load bank also.
@leyland9999
@leyland9999 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of how easy we throw away things. This little generator has a Hatz mini diesel, with proper maintanance they will do many years of reliable service. At least you now have a nice little piece of good quality equipment, congrats!
@jetstream454
@jetstream454 Жыл бұрын
So that's what they use! I assume it's the 1B40V or 1B50V
@Chris-Fennimore
@Chris-Fennimore 5 жыл бұрын
Good video Mike. Cheap Genny, easy fix.
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 3 ай бұрын
Holy Moly, a volcano 🌋 the size of Olympus Mons! That's a lot of soot, ash and clinker for such a low hours machine. My dad always said that diesels need to be worked hard if you want them to last a long time.
@dasboot6935
@dasboot6935 5 жыл бұрын
Use the Sonic Separator, like they did when they re-installed Spocks Brain in Star Trek.
@Mrjohnboyd1959
@Mrjohnboyd1959 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking to do that. "A child could do it".
@freewill1114
@freewill1114 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video; nice to see the master at work. Sweet little Onan you were gifted- I would love to connect that up to my house for emergencies. Thanks for making this video.
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe people would throw this type of stuff out
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 5 жыл бұрын
That might indicate how low a cost these are to Cummins, where they find replacing is less cost than repairing. Imagine that!
@62chevrolet
@62chevrolet 5 жыл бұрын
I would really enjoy running a little guy like that off grid
@ryandoe11
@ryandoe11 5 жыл бұрын
They got a new one under warranty, no need for it.. Big difference...
@SKYKING310
@SKYKING310 5 жыл бұрын
You did a wonderful job to explain the problems I have been doing that for 70 years made it very interesting keep going GOOD LUCK BILL
@bobbob2890
@bobbob2890 5 жыл бұрын
Made in China? Cheaply? Or hecho een Mexico? Nice way to get a new generator cheap!
@eformance
@eformance 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same thing happen to an Onan V-twin on a Miller generator. The initial oil gummed up the valve guides because it hadn't been run in a long time. The valve hung up and the rocker popped off. Some brake cleaner down the valve guide loosened them up and cured the problem.
@poordecisionsgarage9834
@poordecisionsgarage9834 5 жыл бұрын
Sad the big industry would rather shell out a few thousand to replace a unit then pay someone a wage to fix it.
@seangreene64
@seangreene64 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan M it doesn’t cost them a few thousand, no where near that. That’s why they do this.
@poordecisionsgarage9834
@poordecisionsgarage9834 5 жыл бұрын
@@seangreene64 What's the cost to Cummins to build and ship one of these to a dealer?
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 5 жыл бұрын
@@poordecisionsgarage9834 100 bucks to build one 400 bucks profit when selling one
@poordecisionsgarage9834
@poordecisionsgarage9834 5 жыл бұрын
@@The-Cat Cool. Let's see the invoices to prove those numbers.
@poordecisionsgarage9834
@poordecisionsgarage9834 5 жыл бұрын
@@The-Cat and can you point me in the direction where I can pick up one of these for 400$? Because I can't find a gas inverter for less than 550$ let alone 400$ for a diesel inverter.
@bigdady2700
@bigdady2700 5 жыл бұрын
really nice work on getting that little gen working, glad it was an easy fix!
@FixitFrank
@FixitFrank 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Shop is coming together. Thanks for posting this.
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice job. Thanks for the video. I have a small engine shop (semi-retired) and had a very nice riding mower given to me that only had a leaky carburetor on it. I rebuilt the carb and use it a lot with no issues. Thanks for that video.
@jonasjensen4798
@jonasjensen4798 5 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same problem on my Stiga Park mower which uses the same Hatz motor.
@bobbob2890
@bobbob2890 5 жыл бұрын
Jonas you got a diesel lawn mower!? DAMN!!
@jonasjensen4798
@jonasjensen4798 5 жыл бұрын
@@bobbob2890 Yep, I refuel it every spring and in about 15 years it'll need an oil change...... he he.
@Guido_Sarducci007
@Guido_Sarducci007 4 жыл бұрын
Always a great presentation. Yes, I also like remote oil filters (ie. V8 Vega) and oil coolers (ie. Drag Pack option on 428 SCJ's ). Thank you S E M!
@americancitizen748
@americancitizen748 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Sometimes it's just a relatively minor fix! Good work!
@kickinthegob
@kickinthegob Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just purchased a Genset MG 13/10 AA generator that only had 52 hours on it since it was purchased in 1990. It was a backup generator on a chicken farm and when I was running it to test it, I noticed the same white smoke. It has a Ruggerini RD 270 two cylinder diesel engine which is bullet proof and considering the low hours, I wasn't sure if the filter was blocked or the injectors were dirty and the fuel wasn't burning. Since it was a backup generator and was placed under load once warmed up, I don't think the issue is glazing. I will hook it up to some heaters and let it run as I suspect it's just soot buildup in the exhaust as the smoking looks identical to what you showed in your video.
@kpdvw
@kpdvw 5 жыл бұрын
Good video but you can improve it by 100% by placing the camera into a stand to free up both of your hands!
@Rftyree84
@Rftyree84 5 жыл бұрын
I was getting motion sickness from watching. Literally just about threw up. As soon as I looked away I was fine.
@kiiiisu
@kiiiisu 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rftyree84 seriosly? legit question, i was wondering some day if that could really happen lol
@Rftyree84
@Rftyree84 5 жыл бұрын
@@kiiiisu dead serious. Almost threw up. Actually got up from my seat to start for the bathroom.
@patagualianmostly7437
@patagualianmostly7437 4 жыл бұрын
Sad that we all want smaller and smaller stuff but yet do not appreciate that it comes at a price..... I'm reminded of Cellular Phones..Initially....They were HUGE! But everyone wanted "the "smallest"...and even went in bars and bragged how "small theirs was..." (ouch) Then it all got daft...and the phones got bigger and bigger until most "cool" people are now walking around with phones at a size that would have been laughed at a few years back.... Crazy world? This Generator is the equivalent. Great video. Shows us all the reality of miniaturisation. In many situations: It doesn't work. If that unit had been but ....a foot wider.... it could have worked comfortably within its own specs..... Daft design. Inevitable result.
@charleswooters
@charleswooters 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I could get my hands on one that would be great four my truck thank you the video
@daryltownsend
@daryltownsend 5 жыл бұрын
Nice little gen-pack. Defiantly needs running on full load like you said.
@jmstew642
@jmstew642 5 жыл бұрын
My son is a gen tech for Cummins. See similar condition, good gen set if serviced and run loaded...
@gutsngorrrr
@gutsngorrrr 5 жыл бұрын
Nice little score, just goes to show how important it is to specify the right generator for the job.
@showbikesbmx4437
@showbikesbmx4437 5 жыл бұрын
this was awesome and just as entertaining as a roadking or mustie1 video, keep up the great work!
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 5 жыл бұрын
great job Mike , You fixed it . Glad there were no broken parts in the valve case , ENJOYED !! Wet soaks are a diesels best friend for a long life ..
@FixItYerself
@FixItYerself 5 жыл бұрын
free is a very good deal. Cummins and Onan. nice find
@dekoldrick
@dekoldrick 5 жыл бұрын
I love finding using useful stuff on junk piles that only need a little research a basic tools to repair. Own many lawnmowers because of this.
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 5 жыл бұрын
I love how meticulous you are. I think you are one of the best small engine mechanics on KZbin. That is your name after all lol.
@smjones4238
@smjones4238 5 жыл бұрын
Just don't understand why some units are made that just seem to have such small oil capacities. I don't have the development skills to figure out how much it should have, but damn, 1.1qt in the sump just doesn't give you a lot of 'mistake space'. I put an outboard one gallon tank on my gennie, 25kW Generac Diesel, and just let it 'overflow' back into the crankcase. Gives the engine the extra gallon in capacity while keeping the oil level at the same place. I also put in a sight glass in the piping to allow a 'running check' on the oil level. Another Great video, Michael in Colorado.
@ZippoVarga
@ZippoVarga 5 жыл бұрын
57,ooo views and only 25K Subs?! I tell ya Mike.....Some People just don't get how much those subscriptions and thumbs ups help us. Thanks for the video my Friend! Zip~
@themanthemyththelegend1392
@themanthemyththelegend1392 5 жыл бұрын
Oh we get it............. Don't Care............. This shit should not be monetized.
@777jones
@777jones 4 жыл бұрын
This guy thinks very precisely, it’s a pleasure to see. He is like me and my coworkers doing database or programming.
@TheLightningStalker
@TheLightningStalker 5 жыл бұрын
Space heaters work as decent test loads. Also I've seen guys use an oil burner to burn carbon out of mufflers and intake manifolds minding temperature.
@spockmcoyissmart961
@spockmcoyissmart961 5 жыл бұрын
yup. I always use a space heater[s] for a nice inductive load bank.
@Loykaz
@Loykaz 8 ай бұрын
Resistive?​@@spockmcoyissmart961
@jimsbagels1991
@jimsbagels1991 2 жыл бұрын
I like that these videos are not over edited.
@ziggassedup
@ziggassedup 5 жыл бұрын
That's not engine smoke Mike it's the muffler doing a re-gen...
@RichieCat4223
@RichieCat4223 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but that isn't going into regen . There aren't any temp or pressure probes before and after the "catalytic' converter muffler. If it did have one with that much coke soot it would have to be baked in an over than vacuumed out before going back into service. Pressure differential would be too great and throw a code. I'm a Caterpillar engine mechanic and have experience with regen systems.
@brucejones2354
@brucejones2354 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichieCat4223 I think he meant it as a joke. But it looked just about the same.
@georgedemean2228
@georgedemean2228 3 жыл бұрын
Great troubleshooting friend...it will be a good idea to change that nufler also if not to pricey...the genset is almost like new at 300 hrs. It will be gog backup genie even for a small house
@stanRmeyer
@stanRmeyer 5 жыл бұрын
Wondering if the Muffler is coked up clogged with up too much back pressure?
@voneschenbachmusic
@voneschenbachmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Nice unit - thanks for sharing this - looking forward to more videos in your new shop.
@lukeoforcas
@lukeoforcas 5 жыл бұрын
The muffler is all oiled up from the lack of lift on the exhaust valve as the nut backed off. It took 360 hours for it to finally stop running. Exhaust temp getting lower and lower as the hours clicked on. Poor diagnosis is common in this field. Costing consumers big $$
@Big.Ron1
@Big.Ron1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent score. So rather than troubleshooting it they said screw it, replace it. I dont know where it was but i dont want them to work on any of my stuff. Good job on the repair. Be safe.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 5 жыл бұрын
Nice score dude! I would really be interested in the load center rebuild when you do it.
@malachy1847
@malachy1847 4 жыл бұрын
Looks Ex Army Surplus ... what with that Military Green aspect and the heavy plate construction plus all those instruction plates on same. there a plate on the little Cummins Gene ... 1 Min -40 Secs into the upload...Made in Italy
@62chevrolet
@62chevrolet 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting! This is the stuff I like to do and it’s nice to be able to see all the cool stuff everyone else works on.
@curiouscrandall1
@curiouscrandall1 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like the muffler is supposed to be removed by undoing the coupler on the engine header, not separating the flexi from the muffler.
@metallitech
@metallitech 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he really buggered that nice stainless hose sideways.
@peterryan7340
@peterryan7340 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched from start to finish. Subscribed!
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
Nice unit to sell to a trucker if nothing else. I'm a bit disappointed it's not a 3-phase.
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 5 жыл бұрын
Nah... this thing needs a home that will RUN it.. at least 50% load for most of it's operating time. The only practical use I can think of would be as a small construction site generator. Maybe a solar system backup generator - if the batteries drop a bit low, a 3 kW generator would be just about perfect to charge them up and supply power until the sun comes back. Even there you'd have to use it, under load, once every month or two to keep it running well. Most RV's don't draw enough power consistently, and a trucker would use a lot less. They'd be better off with one of those tiny 2 kW models.
@84gssteve
@84gssteve 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I love getting machines like this, its the ultimate bargain! My guess is they took it in for a service and someone forgot to tighten the rocker adjustment properly and the exhaust backed off. Probably later diagnosed the intake kickback as burnt valves when it was actually "jake braking" out the intake since the exhaust system was no longer part of the plumbing! All the orange RTV in the exhaust pipe is the tell to me.....anytime I see RTV beyond a small bead or skim, its a sure sign of an amateur being involved....doubly so if its orange RTV since that stuff is rarely used by the OEM.
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