Ossiarch Bonereapers vs Big Waaagh! Age of Sigmar Battle Report Ep 5

[@kellynine1066]

The firsr few videos in this format felt way too "just the facts" but this one, with Matt talking out his thought process before assigning MawCrusha attacks on turn 2, feels just about perfect. Are y'all no longer accepting challengers?

[@gaborboth3602]

I assume this format needs more skills as a presenter, so it fits challengers less than the old format.

[@kaibe5241]

I liked it apart from the intro. Too much enthusiasm - it's why I avoid warhammer stores.

[@Stardog081]

they might not be because of the COVID 19 shit

[@philpants44]

@@kaibe5241 Yeah, I think the dancing was unnecessary lol. I think i'd need to sneak in a bottle of something in with me if I was faced with that XD

[@kelsonstephenson1109]

A king of the hill series with top tier lists would be awesome.

[@Grimbago]

As Samoth here in comments said, you need an appropriate name. Something like... SIGMARILLION. Or maybe something less punny, like ERROR: Eight Realms Rating Of Ridiculousness.

[@jrrgimli5378]

Honestly my favorite list for a king of the hill game is something along the line of 1 hank hill (general, 330 points) 3 propane grills and propane grill accesories (good flaming attacks at 150 each) 3 battleline units of Dale Gribbles armed with Pocket Sand bringing the cost up to 1410 points, and finishing the list off with some units of Bobby Hill Nut Kickers for that extra rend damage at around 1950 points. Leaves room to buy a command point

[@DamosLexicon]

When an immovable object meets a unstoppable force

[@gordonross3270]

When an unstoppable force meets and immovable object that is also an unstoppable force.

[@Svejir]

6:23 "...bringing my guys back from the dead." Now, I'm no expert when it comes to the denizens of Shyish, but ain't they dead already?

[@tiagomarx5072]

They are undead, thats why they can die. When brought back from death to life, its undead

[@johnthompson4969]

I love the intro to this Batrep. Really informative to novice or uncertain players, or people playing these armies for the first time. I'm a long time watcher of all thing MWG. I really appreciate all you guys do.

[@zacholtman]

I think the results from the latest top tier tournaments showed only 1 top ten OBR petrifex army. The leaderboards were actually dominated by the new disciples of tzeentch. Tournament play I think usually has more emphasis on objectives and thus the OBR are balanced by their slow speed and inability to summon/redeploy.

[@whenry369]

If the only way to beat a army is not to fight them, that's not a fun a of an army I want to play.

[@Voodoowolfe]

Leaderboards weren't dominated by DoT. True DoT won Cancon but there were more fyreslayers in the top ten than DoT. One DoT player made top ten at LVO. DoT is new and tbh, Jimmy Page at Cancon is a fantastic player and abused the lifeswarm endless spell. Wait a month or two then see where DoT is at.

[@Nubloot]

W Henry you can still fight them, chaff em up and hold the objectives. Does every game have to end with the opponent being tabled?

[@hansvermeulen2044]

@@Voodoowolfe They used the new book rules at Cancon, while the other major tournaments played with the old rules still. I do think DoT will show more wins once more tournaments allow for the new books to be played. That being said, as a non tournament player im only worried about these things when I play local games against armies with those rules. Tournament players will find work arounds usually.

[@whenry369]

@@Nubloot Chaff isn&t fighting, its just another way of wasting time to avoid a decisive conflict. Some armies do that well, others suck at it. But when the armies that excel at fighting need to just run away, and even the chaff armies need to suddenly switch to min. sized units so that they can deal with damage output, there is a problem. OBR suck to play against. They are just not any fun.

[@ZiuGigi]

Love the starting army analysis *.* It helps a lot understanding what's happening to people who don't know the army. It would also great to show the list with the details of allegiance ability etc etc ;)

[@thesophistichimp7425]

For the bonereapers you don't get a discipline point for being bonereaper allegiance. You get one for each hero, one additional for each liege, and then roll the dice. Nowhere in the book does it say that you get a discipline for being bonereaper

[@mikey_vengenz]

I really want to see Slaves to Darkness against Ossiarch Bonereapers with the new supplement!

[@SigfridSWE]

I love this new format for the Batreps! ☺ 👍🏻 KZbin have been lacking in good quality AoS Batreps, that void is now filled thanks to these awesome 🤘🏻 videos. Thank you! Keep up the good work!

[@chrischoung1212]

Bonereaper shield spell only effect mortal wounds

[@ruex1234]

This was well done. This format was excellent. It's not often I get through a whole MWG vid, but I really enjoyed this one

[@killerdog42]

This video feels like the best balance of player personality and structure for the new format. love it :D

[@jackfelix9007]

Bone-tithe Shrieker does not move after being cast, only at the beginning of the battle-round ;-)

[@dr.v645]

I would love to see a Grot army with blobs of 60 Grots against this same Bonereaper army. It would be interesting to see how an army with large mobs that assume to lose a lot of models would hold up to the extra rend that the Bonereaper army can bring.

[@TheHobgoblyn]

It would be stupid and pointless to even try. Just basic math-- a 2+ rerollable save means that someone would have to hit and wound them 36 times to expect even a single one to go through. And you want to put models against them that only get 1 attack and miss half of those attacks and fail to wound with another half? One would literally have to somehow get 144 Grots into melee combat to expect to score an average of 1 wound against these guys. If you are playing Grots and come up with an opponent who is playing this army.... just concede immediately. It is utterly pointless to even put a model on the board.

[@BR4IN1N4J4R]

@@TheHobgoblyn You can still win the match, mission depending. Instead of playing happy slaps with the Bonereapers, focus on grabbing objectives and make the Bonereaper player waste combats on units that aren't capping objectives. Plus, Petrifex are quite susceptible to Mortal Wounds, so spells from Fungoids will gut Mortek Guard. It's in HOW you play, not whom

[@dingding12321]

@@TheHobgoblyn The whole point of having a big block of Stabbas is that they muddle up the field, not that they crap damage. The Grot army's point is that they get lots of powerful magic, -2 rend from Troggs and have various other ways to deal tons of mortals. If a Grot army had 120+ Grots then they would have trouble doing things, no matter the enemy. Otherwise they would be perfectly fine.

[@Savka14]

I love this format. You guys nailed it.

[@RPGojira23]

Honestly, best battle report in the new format so far. This style is really growing on me. Keep up the good work/play ;)

[@briancline7349]

With the Ossiarch Bonereapers I finally see a Death faction I would actually have interest in playing... although I’m sure I won’t end up doing it as there are too many other factions I still like better (currently my favorite is Lumineth, followed by KO or Seraphon).

[@WlLDEHlLDE]

Yeah, all that makes Ossiarch as insane as they are right now, is the mortek guard. Ridicules value for the cost.

[@markbootyman2091]

Great looking armies, great report, love the conclusion talk, but please please keep up the dancing I havent laughed so much in months. Great job guys

[@TrippyTheShroom]

Ive watched this bartrep twice now and both times its caused me to start a new army lol. First was Ossiarchs, now im starting an Ironjawz.

[@EveRecruiter]

Can you guys do a video on some transport case options that work great with these models?

[@Idziemel1]

Oh, I just noticed the Phyrexian symbol on Luka’s forearm.

[@micheap2995]

Love this new format for your guys's battle reports :)

[@Dusky_the_burning_marshmello]

Hello, a stormcast player here. I play against mortek guard weekly, and not the "fun" stuff eighter, but the ultimate lists. All I can say, they hurt. A lot. They are good at everithing, if you build up your list. Tonns of magic, mobility (7' moove morteks, of you want to and horses) ranged with catapults, and meele devastation. Next to the body count of a "swarm" list. (Thats is optional) Armywide they are the meta right now, I think. They got all the options, next to the skavens. Cities and ogres are great too, but they can do only as such. (We dont talk about Archeon, he is the only thing what wins, not his army) Darn I hope "we good old ones" (lol) get some new love soon too. Sry for the long half rant. Ty for read. Was on mobile, english not 1. language.#sigamritepotao

[@Dracowinges]

The best offense is a good defense, doesn't matter what you're fighting with or against, if they can't kill you you'll eventually wear tem down, as clearly demonstrated in this battle.

[@Tabletop_Nate]

I love Matthews Warchanter dances! 😂

[@Dorkenmore]

As someone putting together an Ossiarch army, I wish they would just re-write the Petrifex rules. I don't think that Ossiarch are nearly as crazy without the insanity of the overpoweredness of PE.

[@richmcgee434]

Agreed. They'd be fine if it was a global reroll 1s on saves, or maybe even if they ignored rends of -1, but flat +1 to saves is batty.

[@Dorkenmore]

@@richmcgee434 yup! 100% agree!

[@fabienherry6690]

​@@richmcgee434 Yeah because even rend 2/3 which are EXTREME are like 4+ 5+ and if can re-roll a 4+ rerollable is kinda a good chance to ignore

[@mikey_vengenz]

Ossiarch Bonereapers are flippin' tough. They hit hard and can take it in return.

[@jjtalas]

That was an insane battle. Excellent video!

[@joshuasmith5472]

Any batraps with updated Ironjawz with new book?? They look really fun to play!

[@DaHobbles]

YAAAAS!! Stoked that you guys keep playing with this format 🙌🏻😆🙌🏻

[@theblinkermaxemus385]

Definitely do the king of the hill series - it sounds super cool 👍🏻

[@Frohmg]

The war chanters are basically the orruk versions of the muses from Hercules

[@michaelmcmahon3183]

Matt - you’re a pleasure to watch. Other guy, also fantastic. Thank you!

[@MrPerfectOWN]

Maybe it's just me but the volume has been very low on recent videos.

[@williamdonaldson6495]

Love the new format. Glad to see you guys are change with the time to help grow the community.

[@thatoneguynobodylikes8553]

While I know you don't like the GHB terrain rules, but I honestly think you guys should try them out. A lot of the time I'm seeing you all get gummed up in the middle of the table with no room to maneuver, and that leads to those big "get into a large f- pile in the middle and roll dice" games. I think leaving more of the board open to play on is good for the game.

[@floaterfans]

Love the terrain rules! We throw little scatter around for aesthetics.

[@finaladvance5085]

when you're a big boss yoo can 'ave as many "chearleaders" as yoo want

[@bleepbloop7227]

Would enjoy watching a king of the hill type battle report, but it would have to be a once every 2-4 weeks sort of battle report in order to maintain the variety of army that is a big MWG draw

[@colinpessselato5206]

I love this format. The intro is so clean and bring back the banter. Makes you feel you are really there with you guys. The worst part is Luka's list wasnt super optimal. I totally agree with yall about obr rules. I bought into the army and refuse to play them cause it's not fun for my opponent let alone it's not fun to steam roll people. Great report guys!! I'd love to see Luka try the 5 bloodthirster list now!

[@samsilva-cairns8799]

Yeah on Friday games night my friend plays only petrified elite won like 11 games in a row. Overlords came out and now he wont play me as you cannot shield wall range abilities.

[@Blight02]

Seems to be the reaction of a lot of Petrifex players.

[@freak-op700]

amazing intro, this was amazing, thanks for all the batreps, and thanks for playing 2 of my 3 armies in this one! lol.

[@soulinite]

Great job guys, thank you!

[@scottdionbrown]

WAAAAAAAAGHHH!!! ✊✊✊

[@Phantom-38]

I want to see Stormcast next, Sigmar’s chosen must take to the field

[@ThetaRho-]

*Nagash's property

[@jamesware3370]

Really liked this new style of videos, great job to everyone at miniwargaming, I hope to see more battle reports with 40k Orks, AOS Gloomspitegitz and Orrukk warclans 😬.

[@TrippyTheShroom]

I love the idea of bringing the 3 chanters lol

[@petergilberg7839]

the unicorn shirt ist awesome! as the batrep!

[@Waagghhboy]

This channel has great battle reps. I look foward to more. 40k and warcry battle reps (Aos is cool i just dont have a army to relate to)

[@romanlyubimov9490]

Death... Totally balanced.

[@BurpAtTheMoon]

Please read the rules in detail!! Empower Nadirite Shields gives a 5+ ignore MORTAL WOUNDS, not any wounds!!! (I checked the FAQ, they didn't change it)

[@mattdowner7779]

I would love to see Katakros soon! Great Bat rep!

[@627hjc]

King of the hill sounds great!

[@tuffn00gies]

You should dance in more of these vids.

[@bigdave4859]

1/3 of a million subs! 😁

[@SpammerRapist]

That was supremely bloody (ashy) and brutal. :) Edit: good debriefing of the battle

[@TheSuperboy91]

Love Luca's Phyrexian Tat

[@danielaguirre5949]

Why do I feel like the ork boyz were out of range in the charge phase on turn 1?

[@viktorgabriel2554]

by the looks of it the power creep has gotten super high in AoS

[@BlizzardofKnives]

I say hammer, you say thrower. HAMMER!

[@thomasderuiter6584]

THROWER

[@BlizzardofKnives]

Thomas de Ruiter Hammer hammer hammer!

[@thomasderuiter6584]

@@BlizzardofKnives Thrower Thrower Thrower

[@BlizzardofKnives]

Thomas de Ruiter Hammeeeeeer!

[@thomasderuiter6584]

@@BlizzardofKnives Throweeeeeer!

[@ehaesen8417]

Awesome terrain. AWESOME!!!

[@vasdfrt]

Thank you for the batt rep! Petrifex Elite. Fex, like the T-Rexes on Matt's shirt. Not fax. LOL. It was driving me crazy.

[@mattreitz1466]

Bonereapers are way over the top right now. +1 rend and +1 save, immune to battle-shock, -1 to hit debufs, and healing units. They have everything and their units are really well costed already.

[@Liopot68]

GW should bring back the tomb kings!

[@ZiuGigi]

great painting on the megaboss!

[@justindangersmith]

could have used a shaman to yeet the Mawcrusha into the backlines a wreak havoc

[@dannybrown4305]

Loving the new battle report style, but I think you really need to resolve the sound level issues. I don't know if many people mention it, but it feels like a lot of the time I can barely hear you and then something exciting happens and my ear drums burst :P It's not a fault in my equipment either, I've heard it from a few people, and it's the only critique I have. Maybe look into personal mics during the report or something, or balancing differently maybe? All that said, looking forward to more AoS batreps soon!

[@queefbabe]

This has been doing my head in as well. I've mentioned it before but didn't hear anything back. I've had to stop watching a couple of the new reports because i can't keep up with changing the volume all the time

[@dannybrown4305]

@@queefbabe I notice it particularly in matt vs the mountain batreps, they get SUPER loud all of a sudden

[@crux7321]

Guys, great videos, but please compress the audio in your videos more. The dynamic range is crazy. I can barely hear you sometimes and other times I have to turn you down...

[@Madara-vc5gm]

Did you guys stop doing guests with the new batreps?

[@oblivion1745]

In the sit and talks they've said until they finalize their new format they're keeping things in house. The exceptions being guests like Skarri and Galcial Geek who are KZbinrs who also do wargaming content. So don't expect guests for a bit.

[@Madara-vc5gm]

@@oblivion1745 ah that's kind of disappointing

[@MrJadeskies]

I don't know who thought giving mortek Guard a 3+ rerollable save, 1 inch base hitting on 3's with rend of 1/2, shrug on 6 and resurect dead models in multiple ways was a good ideal. Mortek has absolutely shut down my iron jaws army as there is nothing I can do to kill enough models. My last opponent dropped my leadership by 7 and one dead gore gruntah took the whole unit with him. A unit should not be able to be both an anvil and its own hammer.

[@lich109]

The only unit I've seen that can reliably deal with them is that bullshit Stormcast Evocators one. If you're unfamiliar with it, after they've fought, you pick an enemy unit and roll 2 dice for every model in the unit. The enemy unit suffers a mortal wound for every roll of 4+. Even their boosted shields don't stand up to that kind of BS.

[@olractrooprev5237]

Great video giys as always! I am doubting to start ironjawz/big waagh. Are they a bit competitive right now?

[@Phetus1337]

King of the Hill idea u mention is great ! plz do it !!!!

[@richardhansen7069]

Hey really nice battle rep 👍 I really like the style. In Ironjawz first turn it looks like you guys forgot smashing and bashing I think that cost them dealy

[@glassberg5018]

The Ossiarch Bonereapers look so cool, but Bonereapers coming to take your bones for the Bone Tithe will always make me laugh.

[@kevinharkam8010]

i like the new Batt-Rep Format :)

[@bagoa2981]

That was a fucking slaughter and i loved it

[@peters6345]

Haha good to see GW is still an expert at balancing. This was pretty brutally onesided, rends, reroll saves, heal and no battleshock.. you can probably beat them with shooting and mobility. But that sounds to me like a rock paper scissors.. do all AoS players need multiple armies ?

[@ThetaRho-]

Only two bonereapers in the top 30 of a recent tournament. They have plenty of good counters, but pubstomp the unprepared.

[@peters6345]

@@ThetaRho- does Matt have a chance of beating them with any Ironjaws list?

[@ThetaRho-]

@@peters6345 yeah, but target priority is extremely important. Even if it seems like a waste, you gotta use the mawcrushas to fly over the basic bonereapers and nuke the liege kavalos and other heroes. If you let the heroes live, they generate points that allow the bonereapers to activate their abilities, like the infamous shield wall and +1 rend. As soon as those characters are dead, the reapers become way easier to deal with using aardboys.

[@peters6345]

@@ThetaRho- fair enough if it's possible to win then I have no complaints

[@jasdeepgill]

Love the new format

[@yarikhansraj5358]

Those dnce moves though! xD! What a hero!

[@mecor24]

The way they look reminds me of America’s most wanted!

[@kolorytoweoke]

I'd say one thing, 3 different type of save mechanics on Orks is too much

[@Serra7racon]

Mats T-Shirt.... Epic!

[@tracker1695]

I think if Matt would've got the double turn, it would've been reversed.

[@marconovello8020]

How did you paint the Ossiarch Bonereaper endless spell?

[@stephanpodplesky2832]

As a Ironjawz player I've had no success against OBR in the combat phase. Ironjawz with only -1 rend will not kill OBR and then just melt in return. You have to play the objectives and just send in sacrificial units to tie the OBR units up and slow them down. OBR petrifax punishes interactive combat focused armies and its just not fun to play against. That's my biggest complaint about petrifax.

[@Yarkoonian]

Matt flossing is kinda cursed. Also. Like. Kinda funny

[@Flowfully]

ok now i gotta see what bonereapers would be like against kharadron overlords with an alpha strike team of endriggers, or against a non eels Idoneth Deepkin army, or a tzeentch spell battle against a heavy bonereapers caster list

[@chrisk6448]

Great dancing gets a like! What a host

[@GhostinSinceTime]

Just gonna say this: The Petrifex Elite command ability to add -1 rend cannot stack any other weapon, so around the Motrek guard on the mawkursha, the rend should’ve been 1 as you can’t stack rend.

[@bobbysanchez1640]

It literally says “improve the Rend characteristic of melee weapons used by that unit by 1”. There is no stipulation that say it can’t be stacked

[@rossnicola10]

The audio quality isnt very good but finally some OBR batrep

[@TheKagash]

I didn’t think you could use iron jaw formations (iron fist) if you weren’t using iron jawz. I thought since you chose big Wag you lost the ability to take formations in general. Could be wrong tho

[@bakuchidancer]

Pre-nerf bringing melee army vs bonereapers was pretty horrible. Not sure does the nerf even really change. Insane.

[@KOAHUNT3R]

Army has a 3+? *laughs in Warp Lightning Cannons*

[@dr.v645]

GW makes rules that are perfectly balanced. Yep.... perfectly balanced.....

[@sirbobulous]

According to the LLV stat break downs they're actually pretty good (in the context of competitive play) for most factions. They do however have some MAJOR outliers when they get it wrong. Hedonites, new Tzeentch, Fyreslayers, Daughters of Khaine being the main ones. Petrifex OBR is apparently only running at ~50% win rate (with the caveat it is very common on the tourament scene so has a lot of mirror matches and it's vulnerable to Tzeentch who is running real hot right now so could have a depressed overall win rate). For casual play where people aren't tuning to deal with meta armies and just bringing the stuff they like/think is fun/own the imbalance can go crazy and lead to horrible match ups.

[@lich109]

@@sirbobulous I'm familiar with all the others, but what makes Fyreslayers so busted?

[@sirbobulous]

@@lich109 As a whole the army is very good at taking hits and dealing out massive damage in return. It then comes with some very potent options form its priests/wizards and can set up great overlapping buffs. It attacks well and defends well and mostly suffers from a lack of speed. However it has ways around that speed deficit mostly with tunneling units. 400pts of Hearthguard Berserkers+Tunneling priest 'alphabunkers' onto an objective turn 1 and has good odds of sitting them for the rest of the game controlling the objective and annihilating anything that tries to take it from them.

[@tonylusardi5767]

Hoooooo boy are Petrifex begging for the nerf bat. Just to good in an army that is already incredibly powerful

[@ThetaRho-]

They only had two placings in the top 30 of the most recent tournament...

[@tonylusardi5767]

@@ThetaRho- and? Also, which tournament are you referring to? With Tzeentch getting adjusted recently, Petrifex can't be far behind. I think the army on the whole is fine. But the extra tend and +1 save army wide is just to to much.

[@ThetaRho-]

@@tonylusardi5767 cancon and GW gt heat 1. Anyways, it seems to be mainly casuals making a blanket assumption about the armies strength without actually looking into what the faction suffers from. Analysts have petrifex at a 50% win rate, so rather than a nerf, the bonereapers tome needs a buff to bring the underperforming subfactions more in line with petrifex.

[@tonylusardi5767]

@@ThetaRho- I don't think you and I have the same definition of casuals who have brought up the incredible power level of Petrifex compared to other armies. Pre Tzeentch new book, Petrifix was on a steady climb to be the new boogey man after Slanesh was adjusted as well. It should be interesting to see Petrifex's return to the boogeyman spot now with the latest FAQ.

[@ThetaRho-]

@@tonylusardi5767 It's common for a brand new army to do well during the pre-adjustment phase after a battletome release. Bonereapers required a more reserved playstyle and a slightly different unit composition from what players were used to. Now that players have had experience, the bonereapers stat have fallen in line with the other factions. The petrifex elite sit at a 50% win rate according to their catalogued tournament stats, and that is fact.

[@alexandermadwrite2154]

i like the explanation and it goes faster this way but i want to watch people play the game not talk about playing

[@relictusimperator8647]

Too bad the Ossiarch are so expensive! Otherwise I’d collect them more :/

[@brucemontgomery2789]

I thought in matched play when your general is slain, you immediately nominate a new general?

[@willpollock7371]

Nope

[@John.mm93]

You do it's in the rules

[@Moteridgerider]

Did I miss it or did Luca not use the bonetithe nexus scenery rules?

[@Moteridgerider]

I correct myself - he used it in a later round, but blink too quickly and you miss it.