Sanford is a carry type exp laner, notice how the dominant games of echo/tlph is when sanford is popping off on carry heroes with sanji. When sanford is on tankers he doesnt do much
@yo-lo6jc7 күн бұрын
Onic is missing a good exp for like 2 season and they haven't really gotten better since butts downfall. They really need a good flexible exp like Sanford or Edward
@erickolimsoapking23137 күн бұрын
Edward pffft
@-DA-ONE-7 күн бұрын
What happened to butts
@Lawlietsherpa7 күн бұрын
He got transferred to Honor of King for Onic@@-DA-ONE-
@Vsm4267 күн бұрын
@@-DA-ONE- retire
@caspyyyy7 күн бұрын
This is not Sanford's meta though. Onic's exp did good.
@tsugum_i7 күн бұрын
Its not a bad idea too because sanz and sanjis playstyle is quite similar. What made sanford so good was when he could be super aggresivr with sanji. Imo they won m4 because of the san san duo
@Riri-oj1zs7 күн бұрын
They won M4 because all of them are superstars. lel.
@yamisukehiro39907 күн бұрын
personally i think it was because of yawi and benny. The way yawi just spoon feeds the team with his chou was crazy along with the aggressiveness and risky plays that worked out for them
@jonazz9007 күн бұрын
@@yamisukehiro3990Sanford and Sanji did great job on that tournament they play so aggressive, karltzy is also not impactful on kills but in team fights and objective he did well. Yes yawi give some set ups and Benny is the finisher but overall Sanford has the most impact on every game they did in m4 that I observe.
@Riri-oj1zs6 күн бұрын
@@yamisukehiro3990 No. It was because the entire team are composed of super elite players, all of them being the best in their respective roles. M4 Echo is the only team in history which you can say every member was the best in their position.
@Poa20246 күн бұрын
Stull going to be san-san duo but sanford and sanz 😂
@Eng-rd6je7 күн бұрын
Sanford made Onic drop lutpi 😂😂
@MonkeDonalds7 күн бұрын
Nah it's more like lutpi made onic drop lutpi
@dia_kiyoko217 күн бұрын
And Flaptzy made Onic drop Butts 😭
@jayvee85027 күн бұрын
@@dia_kiyoko21I don't why they gave up on Buts. He was good. Only problem is when he face APBren he just crumble but on other teams he is good.
@dia_kiyoko217 күн бұрын
@@jayvee8502 Onic was also on a loss streak during S13 when Butts was still there. Consequently, they promoted Lutpi and it worked until playoffs. For me, both are good locally but not in international level. Onic need to scout more talents. Just don’t get EXP import becoz there will be a lot of adjustments in the long run.
@jayvee85027 күн бұрын
@@dia_kiyoko21 I think Butz just needs time to figure it out. He might be tilted from AP Bren trauma.
@Kazunori11047 күн бұрын
Yawi and Sanford to FNOC is like bringing the Echo Express to the Sonics.
@salamca7327 күн бұрын
Sanford in Onic is an unstoppable force 😮
@mr.Inoriii7 күн бұрын
umm... idk about sanford tbh. he's an amazing exp laner, but onic id's exp laner is basically the slave role, you do all the boring and dirty work so that the other 4 can carry. if it was edward or kramm, or even kirk (if he somehow wants to go to id after 1 season with onic ph), then it could work... sanford? maybe less effective as people would've hoped. remember he's a carry type exp laner, not someone you put a hylos on
@Justin-qo3sz7 күн бұрын
He did good slave work in echo during this assassin meta but echo bennyqt Karl can't carry that's why they lost. He is flexible is just that echo other 4 are underperforming
@jericko0097 күн бұрын
It's sanford bro, come on 😎
@mr.Inoriii7 күн бұрын
@@Justin-qo3sz im gonna be real, i do think in this meta the other 4 tlph players are better than the other 4 onic id. so for sanford it might actually be a backward move.
@mewtrysiker33207 күн бұрын
@@mr.Inoriiijaypee is not better tho. And benny has lost his game after msc
@leianime93957 күн бұрын
i think what fnoc really need is a good shotcaller and captain which butts is
@BLinX神5 күн бұрын
Exp is not Onic's problem. Exp in this meta is not an ex factor that's why Bren with Flap and Echo with Sanford didn't dominate MPL PH.
@shahid_85757 күн бұрын
It's either like buying another kairi or just gonna end up like yawi😂
@axevalkyrie98447 күн бұрын
Honestly speaking, Onic ID need a very good fighter lane
@XIXiSuede7 күн бұрын
That would be a cheat code pls do not let it happen 💀
@Hunyelo7 күн бұрын
What about GOSU Sanford or Todak Sanford
@salamca7327 күн бұрын
Ayo what 😂
@mr.Inoriii7 күн бұрын
MV sanford 🔥🔥🔥
@Justin-qo3sz7 күн бұрын
Gosu is a joke since m1
@alemansprototypeguy7 күн бұрын
TDK is actually performing good right now
@zzzz82817 күн бұрын
Bro, it's like another nathzz situation right there😂
@salimsakifff67037 күн бұрын
Onic really needs a strong XP
@naphiuzumaki41737 күн бұрын
0:22 what the hell was that 😂
@OXONAKEPI7 күн бұрын
Yeahh😂 I had same thought 😂😂
@naphiuzumaki41737 күн бұрын
@OXONAKEPI 😂😂
@maryamatv46167 күн бұрын
It's actually a good idea
@russellbumak6 күн бұрын
Yeah that’s worth it, he’s one of the best exp who can replace Butts so far
@Grey_Fit7 күн бұрын
More like Nathzz since Emman was there, but Nathzz is living on USA maybe if he was really into being PH import in Indo
@jayvee85027 күн бұрын
I think not. I think he just wants to be with his Family in NA. Going to Indo is doing the opposite.
@Kazunori11047 күн бұрын
His family are already migrated in the US. I think this is impossible.
@r-jayrosasenadelapena40147 күн бұрын
It is time to Sanford to go for the big money cuz he had already a championship in Mseries and mpl
@Alchemist-qz7zm7 күн бұрын
People keep on saying that FNOC's problem is their EXP laner. That is because they don't deep dive into every aspect of the matter. In my opinion and ONLY in my humble opinion, the root cause of the problem is their midlaner. His emotions are extreme. When you see a player that couldn't stop spamming recalls when he's winning, best believe somthing else is spamming in his mind when he is losing. If a player couldn't stay calm when he's ahead, don't expect his judgement to be sound when he is about to lose. I saw how he trembled and had a face so pale after a match with Blacklist International. He has top tier mechanics but too bad his nerves needs to stabilize a little bit.
@user-lp6xn6jl8w6 күн бұрын
Maybe, but after watching the playoffs with Geeks, it's definitely their xp. He keeps overengaging or goes in solo and dying, resulting in a snowball or throw from their massive gold advantage. They win early but lost cause of their Exp, rezzz throws
@Alchemist-qz7zm5 күн бұрын
@@user-lp6xn6jl8w Some top tier players have a few blunders too. Just like Skylar turret diving alone a few seconds before the Lord spawn but RRQ's shotcallers including Skylar didn't panic and made the right decisions so they still won that particular game. Well, maybe TLID just didn't know how to capitalize and punish. 😆
@user-lp6xn6jl8w5 күн бұрын
@@Alchemist-qz7zm I was neither talking about RRQ nor TLID not about blunders. Everyone makes blunders but Rezzz threw the game they were WINNING. In an important match too. Not just once, nor twice. He did it multiple times especially when they had gold advantage and winning. When it mattered, he was respawning and they threw
@Alchemist-qz7zm4 күн бұрын
@@user-lp6xn6jl8w I know. Just read my reply to you again with a little analysis this time.
@Febb.017 күн бұрын
Sanford/ Sanji and yawi, kairi is enough... I don't care who is the gold, Lezzzz gooooo TNC
@rawrzytv3377 күн бұрын
If FNOC gets sanford, give them the M series and MPL ID championship already 😂
@esdeathchan43547 күн бұрын
Nuh uh
@jericko0097 күн бұрын
If its right, they did really good decision
@randomguy88007 күн бұрын
Wait they really bought Sanford?
@AshikurRahmanRifat6 күн бұрын
They have been lacking a good exp for 2 seasons
@HubetoYepthomi7 күн бұрын
Sanford in onic pH will dominate the whole era 💀💀💀
@athiherobert28437 күн бұрын
Wat was that uahhh ( mourning) sound around 22 sec of the video .. reply if any one know?
@lgamingnp36127 күн бұрын
Breaking nnn with this one🔥
@mlbbcafe37037 күн бұрын
It's MIRKO donation notification
@athiherobert28437 күн бұрын
@mlbbcafe3703 wtf !! 😂🤣
@RigelZM7 күн бұрын
They need to let albert go. Hopefully geek fam can get albert., baloy and albert last 2 season of their career
@HxH2637 күн бұрын
Bro that's actually a good buy
@blackleaf79666 күн бұрын
soooo ... indo teams are nowPh teams in disguise? xD " if cant beat them ... IMPORT THEM"
@tissotzy7 күн бұрын
Why would they get Sanford? He doesnt match onic playstyle, he’s better as a carry type exp. If onic wants to import exp I think Heads would be good and probably cheaper aswell
@Faceless21-4K7 күн бұрын
Transfer kelra to ONIC ID..then damn....Kelra,Kairi,Sanford,Sanz,Kiboy legendary.
@Riri-oj1zs7 күн бұрын
Only 2 import players are allowed.
@jayvee85027 күн бұрын
Onic PH is already good now. A very strong contender for M6. Why risk going to Onic Id?
@vrpo2k7 күн бұрын
@@jayvee8502 so they can once again shout indo pride while hiding behind dem imports lmao
@user-lp6xn6jl8w6 күн бұрын
I don't think that will happen. Kelra and Onic pH are absolute monsters right now
@Xhocobutternut7 күн бұрын
Fnoc problem now is Exp lane
@Justin-qo3sz7 күн бұрын
Sanz problem also he and sanji cannot shine in assassin meta
@jayvee85027 күн бұрын
@@Justin-qo3szSanz lost his touch when Butz was gone.
@Febb.017 күн бұрын
Pano na lng noh if ... C kairi gawan ng movie ? Dba npka angas? Kahit c Karl pwde na pwde din dba??? Moving on Kay kairi, pwde2 tlga gawan ng movie tong bata nato. Based sa buhay nya, kasi nangarap, nagsakripisyo at nagtagumpay. Ganda kasi ng kwento ng buhay nya, nagsimula sa wlang titolo.. Nagpunta sa indo upang pangarap ay mabuo.
@OurMLBB7 күн бұрын
Kelra followed by Kingkong are more likely to join FNOC before Sanford... Kelra will join FNOC either in 2025 0r 2026... and keeping in mind the reason Fanatic Onic PH Bought Kingkong from TNC...on Yeb's advise, it's possible Kingkong will replace Kiari and CW will be replaced by Kelra
@HxH2637 күн бұрын
His talking about Onic I'd not PH
@OurMLBB7 күн бұрын
@HxH263 lol..how stupid are you? You don't even know who FNOC are...shame on you!! Please educate yourself before making statements on KZbin... seriously atleast learn the names of MLBB teams before talking about MLBB teams. There are no Onic ID or ONIC PH. Only FNOC and FNOP. So if you want to reply my comment..read it till the end you.
@Grey_Fit7 күн бұрын
😂
@OurMLBB7 күн бұрын
@@HxH263 You are a special kind of Stupid. Stupid People like you are the reason MLBB community have toxicity and Stupid. You know nothing about MLBB. Not only that you don't understand what you see, hear amd read.. Please learn basic MLBB knowledge before you make MLBB statement on the internet. But first of all learn the names of MLBB teams.
@OurMLBB7 күн бұрын
@@HxH263 Dude you don't even know the names of MLBB teams. You have no right to talk about MLBB.
@Justtrollme6 күн бұрын
Xp laner and coach lack of onic
@charlesnefariousfrost51097 күн бұрын
We'll gonna be have sansan duo in m4 to sansanz dou in m7 😂
@VoydVelasco20 сағат бұрын
After ECHO lost to ONIC ID in MSC. Echo turns to Sanford Esport/TLPH.
@lalnunhluahlua84827 күн бұрын
onic change only exp they need to look gold mid and rome too
@liquel16037 күн бұрын
They could have picked Nats for free, or even Edwards. Onic is rich though so they can buyout Sanford.
@aiproduction98002 күн бұрын
It's time for kairi to go back to ph, kairi kelra yawi in 1 team tnc the best option, starting from bottom, make it way to playoff and mpl ph champion, iesf for ph, msc and m-series before their prime fade away
@jospotato97904 күн бұрын
Please let this happen
@acehunt04037 күн бұрын
So Sanford Sanji is no more😢
@kimosabehmar16717 күн бұрын
Let's go fnoc sanford
@aasports89247 күн бұрын
OnicIDs problems are their sides. Both exp and gold
@arruhunahya75937 күн бұрын
their mid too honestly, sanz is inconsistent nowadays.
@yulianaqsa10937 күн бұрын
Yo wtf is that 0:22 moan
@mlbbcafe37037 күн бұрын
MIRKO donation notification 🤣
@melchordeguzman90207 күн бұрын
Dapat palit mage at goldlane ang fnop id ehe
@prohibitedchaosgaming84697 күн бұрын
00:22 what was that brah 😂
@mlbbcafe37037 күн бұрын
It's MIRKO donation notification 🤣
@Loveisamyth47 күн бұрын
Seriously...is this real
@MoatiAier7 күн бұрын
Is it true guys
@raffaelganza67007 күн бұрын
Butas naman lagi si Rezzz sa Exp lane? Jusme🤦
@alemansprototypeguy7 күн бұрын
All FNOC needs to do is GET DAMN ANTIMAGE BACK
@YauSuhaimi7 күн бұрын
NO. he used to be one of id strongest exp alr, but his arrogant. If i remember correctly he doesnt take critism from his own team and even from coach..always try to find reasons to defend himself when making a mistake. (From evos analyst who brought m1 with evos) This is a team play, ego like that could be a bomb for your own team.
@jhamiersantiago-me1dh6 күн бұрын
Get nathz
@juantamad2297 күн бұрын
That's cheating.. i hope they dont allow that
@tissotzy7 күн бұрын
Why would they get Sanford? He doesnt match onic playstyle, he’s better as a carry type exp. If onic wants to import exp I think Heads would be good and probably cheaper aswell