Chinese Diesel Heaters GETTING BETTER?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

What an important feature for your heater? ( besides heat ) the small remote control? Phone app? Better accessories in the box , Something else? I want to hear. Maxpeedingrods seem to be pretty open to taking feedback which I could pass on.

[@EXYUTV]

Too bad they didnt implement only fan mode, this way yo can get fresh air without heating....

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@Djole Djole They do have a fan mode I showed it in the video. At 20:31

[@EXYUTV]

@@MispronouncedAdventures my bad, didnt watch carefully :)

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@@EXYUTV no problem it’s only a very short scene . I was surprised to see it as a feature I’ve not seen it before on one of these

[@EXYUTV]

@TryNDoxMe There are people who made a copper tube "coil" around the exhaust with a pump for heating water.

[@mange2]

My last Chinese heater lasted 3 years before the fan bearing started pulling the fan blades out of alignment which threw up a fault code which prevented heater from working. I just bought another one for £100 and simply replaced it.. I never even had to replace the pump, filter or pipework. £100 every 3 years is a bargain especially because I live in my van full time.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I agree the same. They last for years when properly installed, and then you can buy a whole new unit for the price of a single spare on the more expensive western units

[@718racer1]

I simply changed the bearing as soon as I heard a noise. Bearings are cheap on Ebay.

[@americannumber2]

You can buy the parts for cheap. I have all the components for backups. Every 2 or 3 years replace a few things. Only cost me less than $100

[@Bear-cm1vl]

If I may suggest, change to the pump that comes with the new heater when changing the heater. This type of pump moves a specific amount of fuel with each stroke, what you hear as a "click" when the pump is running and that fuel delivery is matched to the burner speed, so using another pump may or may not match the burner and a mismatch can cause the burner to run rich (slowly causing soot buildup) or lean (causing improper light off, flameout and, under worst conditions, overheating of the chamber and glow plug). Personally, I would keep the old pump as an emergency backup.

[@leejohnson6173]

@@Bear-cm1vl all the different brands of Chinese heaters I have had in my semi literally all have the same pump.

[@surfingcuriositywaves4046]

On the first priming, the pump is dry (unlubricated). A good tip from youtuber John McK 47 (great series on these heaters, look him up) is to put a few drops of light oil directly in the pump before hooking up the hoses. Then your pump will not be running unlubricated during the long first priming session. The alternative is to vacuum start the fluid through the long hose by mouth or other contraption.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

These pumps are all prelubricated at factory / tested you get a decent amount of liquid come out of them long before fuel gets there

[@Bear-cm1vl]

These fuel pumps are metered injection, also known as "stroke" pumps and do not have rotating components, so dry running is not as important, however putting some diesel fuel into the pump before startup will help seat and seal the inlet and outlet valves, as well as help the pump achieve a better vacuum on the inlet line and draw fuel more effectively with each stroke.

[@stianstave76]

To vacuum a fuel line, use a spray bottle trigger.

[@jameshunt2141]

the little bits of metal left over from casting the casing are called flashing or flash. you get the same with all types of casting and they should really have removed them like your having to

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Ah thank you, I knew there was a correct name for it! I just wanted to call it overcasting or something as I for the life of me couldn’t remember the correct name. But a agree it normal but should be cleaned up a factory.

[@appalingbehaviour]

​@@MispronouncedAdventures Hullo Alex, regarding the fans, I have a noisy 2kw heater which I suspect needs the fans balancing. Do you know how I can identify which bit of the fan needs to be defaced, attacked and mildly mangled like the fans in this model? Love the vids. Many thanks

[@eisenschmeisser3959]

I like my chinese heater, as simple as it is. No fancy bluetooth, only nice heat :-) For 120 EUR an absolute van life game changer. But.... the fan mode seems to be nice ! BTW: The 80´s Atari-Game voice, that comes out of the control unit is annoying AF...

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

The one I use in my van was £84 and a normal black controller ( which I have replaced with an afterburners controller) but it’s been great. The voice it’s totally not needed, but at least they actually added an English option, as well as just the factory Chinese it comes set too. 😂 Having a fan motor is definitely something which others don’t have

[@rudivandoornegat2371]

Yes, I'm in agreement with you. I also like the tool kit and this is the most no nonsense controller I've ever seen on a parking heater. The cardboard air intake for the furnace is it's weakest selling point. The low quality fuel line and brackets are normal for this price range. One small improvement I could imagine is if they would separate the temperature sensor from the display. And an on/off button for the display, as some people don't like the light when they're sleeping.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yes, cardboard intake and fuel line are negative. Which is annoying a lot of other Chinese kits to come with the normal aluminium coated one and hardline. Completely agree with those other points. Heater core temperature & fan rpm seem to be very easily accessible on the controller, which is mostly unnecessary for day-to-day use. Easy access to the room temperature would be more important. It definitely would be great to have a display sleep button as well.

[@gerardjurgens2670]

I had a gasheater in my caravan with an external exhaust to the roof, a monoxoyddetector as well but I never liked to put myself to sleep with the heater on! I like this unit as it runs on the same fuel as my vehicle. The only downside to me is the constant fannoise

[@gbear1005]

​@@gerardjurgens2670because of the low heat content, and the risk of carbon buildup and condensation the exhaust should ALWAYS be going down, straight down being the best.

[@kellymelrose8527]

ive just mounted my pump outside .. stretched a few elastic cords across the chassis and fixed in place with cable ties ...took a bit of time to get everything just right but it working very well... and nice and quite inside

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

That’s one of the ways of mounting it. mine is mounted on its mounting just loosely to the vehicle on its rubber mount so very little noise gets transferred through. The main issue is when people bolt them tightly to the vehicle, and the vibrations are transferred easily

[@theonlywoody2shoes]

I fully agree with your concerns regarding the cardboard intake tubing and cheap fuel line. One more “negative” for me is the straight through exhaust/silencer. The genuine Webasto ones have a twist in the pipe as it enters the silencer box, and you can’t see straight through. The genuine ones do create a slightly higher back pressure (not an issue for the heater) but are so much quieter imo. Great review video thanks.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah, I’ve seen quite a few variations of the silencer. The spring straight through. And the one with the curve in. This one, however, being a straight through spring, but filled with what appears to be fibreglass is a bit different. Surely that’s going to disrupt the ability to suppress. Green fuel line disappoints me and i’ve never seen a kit before with cardboard tube in

[@DB-yj3qc]

I bought one last year to install in my travel trailer replacing the propane one that quit workingafter2 years. I've yet to install it. So about a month back I got a link for a slightly smaller and case ready to go one cheaper than the previous one. I ordered it and about a week ago I ran it for about 10 hours off of a paired set of 36amp Lithium Ion batteries. It used around 3 liter of diesel fuel. For what I've paid for both and some spare parts I'm not even a third of the price of Wabasto fuel heater. Let alone all the problems that I've heard with some of them.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

For the price of them there great. I find my diesel average is around 180ml per hour and just over 2000 hours run time on mine.

[@ProjectCamper]

Totally agree with the green fuel pipe and hose clips, absolute tosh, really looking forward to getting my hands on this as the afterburner kit hopefully won’t be needed. 👍👍

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

It’s a shame they’ve not yet improved those in the kit. I’ll still be using my afterburner and current heater. But if those options weren’t available to me, I think this heater is currently the one on the market with the most features.

[@wilco157]

The green pipe is an upgrade..it's not like the old black connecting pipe. Also the steel in tank pickup tube... is useless..! instead of leaving the bottom of the tanks moulded tank output....they have drilled it out .. rendering it useless... Absolutely one of the best diesel heater reviews I've seen ... many thanks 👍

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’d always seen the steel pipe ups for plumbing your own tanks. the hardware for the moulded tank comes with is inside the tanks

[@awesomesauce2935]

11:23 that filter is probably to go in the fuel tank on the input hose to 1) provide weight to keep the intake tube at the bottom of the fuel tank and 2) filter out course debris that may fall in the tank from getting in to your fuel system.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Could well be, I didn’t try that, but it might be too small for the diameter of the greenhouse.

[@chrisstewart4823]

No, it's a water separator. Water falls to the bottom and is drain able via the bottom valve. Very common on diesel fuel systems. Fuel tank feeds the water separator/pre filter and then you have a second filter after that followed by the pump.

[@awesomesauce2935]

@@chrisstewart4823 It very well could be, it looks very similar to a fuel pickup prefilter in a chainsaw which also works as a weight when you change angles.

[@hubrisnaut]

This is very interesting. I have retired friends who are customizing a cargo van for long road trips. I will let them know about this heating option.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

They’re great option for diesel powered vehicles.

[@hubrisnaut]

​@@MispronouncedAdventures Despite being given this unit for free, you gave an honest appraisal which I appreciate. subscribing I am single, semi-retired and will be fully retired in a few years; seriously considering customizing a van to go on the road (I'm to old for my dream of a sailboat). I live in America and there are a lot of places to explore.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@@hubrisnaut I appreciate that comment, I accepted the unit because I do like playing around with diesel heaters and wanted to see what was new in development, but just because it’s for free doesn’t necessarily mean they’re getting a positive one. Lucky for them. I did have good points to say as well as one or two bad ones

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@@hubrisnaut definitely in the states, you have a vast and wide ranging environments to explore

[@kamikazekunze]

Heck our Espar was nothing but trouble along with the high altitude modules going out. Threw it in the trash and am running a Chinese unit without issues. 👍🏻

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Sorry to hear you had issue with the espar. I’ve not been about to test the altitude stuff. But they advised it does altitude adjustment automatically

[@kamikazekunze]

@@MispronouncedAdventures that would awesome. We spend most of our time between 5,000’ and 9,000’ in altitude. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

No problem! Would be had to test that altitude here anyway! Our highest point in the uk is only just over 4400 feet / 1345m

[@Bear-cm1vl]

Nice review Alex. If the new heater's controller is ramping the fuel pump speed and fan as the space nears setpoint, it may have a PID control algorithm, which adjusts the fire rate based on how far the current temp is from setpoint, how much heat the unit is designed to produce and how much time the unit is taking to reach setpoint. These controllers may have a full shutdown mode but the response is covered up by changing the setpoint for testing, so you may want to use the heater without making setpoint adjustments and see if still goes several degrees above setpoint and overheating the space. On the cheap controllers, I have set up a separate temperature control to take command of the "On/Off" function and cycle automatically when the temperature gets 2 deg F above setpoint, but it requires accessing the original controller's electronics.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Thank you for the detailed comment. Unfortunately this unit doesn’t have on / of shutdown cycle option. I also haven’t seen must evidence of the heater adjusting it’s fire rate to maintain a set temperature. Just ramping up and down. my personal Chinese heater with an afterburner controller does both of these. But it is nice seeing more improvements

[@Bear-cm1vl]

@@MispronouncedAdventures would you share sourcing and part numbers for the upgraded controller, please?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@@Bear-cm1vl unfortunately it’s not as easy as a part number. It was a github project made by an Australian called the “afterburner” for Chinese diesel heaters. there is a good Facebook group ( advanced afterburner Chinese diesel heater controller ) , the creator made, and through that you can learn about the unit and where to obtain one ( or build yourself)

[@Bear-cm1vl]

@@MispronouncedAdventures very good info and I will look into the groups and the project. Looks like it's time to heat up the soldering station and prepare a PC board! 👍

[@syncrosimon]

Great video Alex, it is so clear that the Webasto / Eberspacher units are massively overpriced, and a new one of these units you are testing is still cheaper than a diagnostic at a Webasto dealer. It’s the 21St century version of self sufficiency, now you have to mend a nd repair yourself rather than grow vegetables!

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I agree whilst the quality of the western kits is very good. The price is very very high. and doesn’t seem to be able to be repaired by the end user or has a spares which are reasonably priced

[@iandennis7836]

As I understand, a few years back webasto and eber were fined in total €67m for price fixing, but their prices remain high.....

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Oh wow, thats no small fine!

[@iandennis7836]

@@MispronouncedAdventures they could afford it......

[@pauls466]

You do a fantastic review. Just one thing Running them on low even all winter long will NOT soot them up if the air to fuel is correct.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I agree, I’ve run mine for 2000 hours and most of that on low. No issue

[@micah_noel]

Damn, I was also hoping it would turn off when at target temperature. I get overheated every night on the lowest setting. I actually duct all the heat towards the cab so it can defrost my windshield hopefully before I get overheated in the back of my van. Hopefully they’ll upgrade that some day.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I was hoping to same as I know a lot what that feature. I did message their hardware team about it, who knows maybe at somepoint they will upgraded it

[@easylife6718]

Same here ..I'm to hot .its wasting diesel..I'm thinking buy eberspacher

[@coreybabcock2023]

Get a after burner

[@chrisb5839]

​@@MispronouncedAdventures The Hcalory diesel heaters shut off.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@chrisb5839 indeed there newer models do, I’m hoping to get one of those to place with. That particular model I think was just coming out when I reviewed this one

[@zenzen9131]

Great review :) with respect to the paper ducting, I would personally have the air intake feeding from air inside the van and just have the exhaust going to the outside :)

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Unfortunately it’s not safe to have the combustion intake from the inside of the van. If you even had a issue with the heater and it’s fan failed or exhaust became blocked there is a risk of exhaust gases coming back out of the combustion intake

[@casparv]

Also you'd be having it move warm air from the inside to the outside, meaning there will be a cold draft from outside to inside as well.

[@davidconner-shover51]

this lowers the pressure inside the vehicle, introducing drafts, and, more importantly, potentially sucking in the exhaust. most modern heating systems no longer do this at all, bringing in combustion air from the outside for this very reason

[@zenzen9131]

@@davidconner-shover51 Very good point David :)

[@diesel-technology5507]

Just seen the casting on the heat exchanger inside it, absolutely no surprise what so ever 😅

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Pretty common to see across many Chinese heater brands is the flashings not cleaned off.

[@1898nc2]

I live on a 45’ boat and I have two that have run about 5 months a year for 5 years now and I have not had an issue. You just need to make sure to run it on high for a bit if it has been on low to long

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Aye. No Issues with mine. 2 years with about 2000 hours on, no issues when install well and used well

[@nomadchad8243]

I've had one in my garage for five years (since the beginning of this nonsense) and it's still going strong. I've gone through 3 fuel pumps buy that's it.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’m putting just over 2000 hours on my current one and the same. No issues at all. Great units when you get a good version

[@nomadchad8243]

@MostOfTheInternetIsFake that's two machines one in the trailer one in the garage . One was my fault ,one just stopped working and the other I think got water in it and sat for a season. Yes and no but it's good to have a spare kicking around.

[@Dav-S5658]

Du-Bro extra large tygon fuel line for the win. Yellow color, semi clear, very flexible and easy to route, top quality material, 4mm inside. Yes, expensive.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah, definitely swapping to a decent fuel line is important.

[@Dav-S5658]

@@MispronouncedAdventures Agreed! This Tygon type fuel line is in common use in the power equipment world, BUT the 4mm ID required is not. I have searched and searched. The only manufacturer that I could find was Du-Bro. I bought a spool of it, but you can buy 10ft lengths from many suppliers. It is used in the hobby world. Worth the cost. I think the hard tube works too, but then you have to use some soft tube for every connection. All those joints make me nervous! Also, the hard tube is really hard to route in tight places. I end up with with loops that hold hold air. I have heard the argument that you need the hard tube to prevent stretching of the fuel line during the pulse. The Tygon line is thicker wall, so less possible issue with that. The fuel run in my system is pretty short, so even the cheap green line never actually caused any issue for me.

[@jamesduffus4455]

I have been running a 8kw as my primary heat source in a 27' gulf stream for going on 4 years the first one lasted two winters running full time the first winter was a learning process i did run out of full once caused the pump to run silent there after towards the end of the second winter pump was loosing power it was a struggle to keep it running hot fan bearing started failing so it got real loud if you have a pet its important to run a furnace filter if the fan isn't kept clean it will throw off the balance causing it to fail. so the pump and blower is why i replaced the first one the brand is auto parts. the second one was a brand called vevor an exact match to the first one other then two things the controller and that green fuel line controller is very similar to that one except no bluetooth i didn't like the UI so i stuck with my original same with the fuel line my original came with a hard nylon fuel line so i stuck with it the vevor is on its second season running great last year it got down to -26f with a wind chill of -56f this year its already seen 20f and its not even november yet it runs great i go thru roughly 5 gallons of off road diesel a week to heat a 7'Hx8'Dx27'L space thermostat set to 20c. fyi don't ever run the pump more than 2 seconds without fuel it will cause permanent damage and will need to be replaced early these pumps have a tolerance of +/_ .002" just like an engine bearing without oil it gets cooked fast

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Great heater, most of the time the only difference between different companies is the ECU/controller and the accessory ( fuel line, exhaust and so on ). Some of those are definitely better than others. I have seen some kits come with hard line fuel line and other still that green stuff. I can see the importances if you have pets to have a filter over the intake side. My current one has done 2 winters and just over 2000 hours of run time. Fan bearing makes a little noise. But now I have a spare for my second arctic trip

[@tylerfisher7819]

I like these so much, I bought 2. My favorite controller.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

They are great when you have good versions!

[@tylerfisher7819]

@@MispronouncedAdventures I live at a high elevation. These are the only ones that keep running right for me. Since the fuel pump works off the altitude.

[@kevinjones3900]

I got a big syringe and pushed the diesel to the pump. No long wait on prime . Plus the pump does not run dry .

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

When mounting these in vehicles so there is a lot more pipe, I’d pull the diesel through opposed to wait for the priming

[@wshelley123]

Useful review yet again Alex. I don't think it really adds anything new from the sound of it. The original heater has a thermostat mode and a fan speed mode. The most annoying feature as you pointed out is that the thermostat does not actually turn on/off the unit - it just controls the fan speed. This would be fine a large space where you need constant heat. But I've found a 30 minutes is more than enough in a transit sized van. I was fed up of waking up cold turning the heater on then turning it back off again when I had dried to a crisp. It sounds like you've also got the advanced controller which I seemed to remember costs around £100. For what it does its probably worth its weight in gold....but just before I bought one I spotted someone has managed to get an Arduino to interface with the heater. Minutes later I had rigged it up had the Arduino controlling heater. The documentation and code was a little bit rough around the edges so I updated it and published some improvements for others to play with. You keep your existing controller and splice in the add-on. The key thing this does is turn the heater off if it gets too hot and restarts it when it gets too cold - simples. github.com/wshelley/Chinese-Diesel-Heater-Advanaced-Temperature-Controller

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I wasn’t aware of an Arduino-based aftermarket controllers, I do love a good bit of tinker!!. yes, I have a afterburner for mine. So I have all the features could possibly want including the sought after turning off and on via thermostat, however, the Afterburner thermostat in Liner Hz mode is incredible, almost perfectly your target temperature, and possible for automatic shutdown, if it exceeds it, even on the lowest setting. plus lots of other features. Expensive at £100 about two years ago And I only paid £84 for the original heater, but as you said it’s totally worth the weight in gold. The core unit on this heater is effectively the same, nothing groundbreaking there. I would say the robust Bluetooth app ( which is only local access ) is pretty good and new if that’s something people want. However, I’ve never seen a ventilation or fan mode before with no heat on any other Chinese diesel heater, only on Autoterms Going to check out that project !

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Good looking github project. Interestingly, ECU, compatibility issues does seem what is going to become more and more of the issue, the same with the afterburner project, newer heater models are coming out with different ECU’s , which are not compatible. That being said a replacement ECU is only around. £16 on eBay, just need to find the right one

[@chasemartin4450]

That looks AWESOME! My friends and I had a feeling that the Chinese weren't pulling any crazy encryption schemes or whatnot on their control interface, and this proved us right. Will definitely be putting together a custom controller (or probably just a custom ECU to add native support for an oxygen sensor) when I do my van build.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

There are multiple different communication protocols across the Chinese diesel heater manufactures. The afterburner controller which Ray built only works for one particular protocol which he spent a great deal of time figuring out, that protocol can found on a number of completely different designed ECU’s PCB designs. Best of luck with your project.

[@ParedCheese]

Maybe a gravity feed above the pump would speed up the priming a bit? Just raise up the can until its flowing.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

With the style of a dosing pump, I don’t think it would help too much in the priming process unfortunately. Having a fuel source higher than the pump & heater does has effect in the long-term, but I don’t think it will help too much in priming.

[@saeedhossain6099]

great video, but that blue filter is a dewatering filter, as diesel passed over water contaiminants should fall to the bottom and can be drained off.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Ah so two jobs in one, water contaminants and Physical Contaminants. Better than the smaller type many of the other heaters come with

[@AJ-qn6gd]

Nice of the Chinese manufacturers to leave final finishing and quality control to the customer to do !

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Haha yes. I’ve seen many of these heaters, some I find fine, less so. Whilst I was given the unit for review, does it mean I’m gonna give it a good one or not be honest. I thought the quality control on that casting wasn’t great so I made a point of it

[@AJ-qn6gd]

@@MispronouncedAdventures A fair and balanced review 👍🏻 I thought, you really can’t knock these units for the price.

[@TheMajictech]

I’ve also had great luck with vevor brand ones.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’ve heard good things with the quality of Vevor

[@phillallen01]

Nice i may have to upgrade my unit ive had it 6 years now with no problems at all and i even run it on low quiteba lot i taken it apart to see what it is like inside with nothing to clean so it put back together and run again hopefully for another 6 years but i may just get one of these units

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Happy with my with 2 and a bit years of run time and 2000 hours+ Going to service my current one soon to look at the bearings

[@charlies418]

Top Tip: use marine grade 304 stainless steel jubilee hose clips. More expensive but last a lifetime!

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’ve swapped to the high quality exhaust clips on my personal heater, far better than the rubbish, which most the kits comes with

[@TheMajictech]

I’ve had a warmtoo brand one in my 5th wheel for 3 years, not even so much as a cleaning, trouble free. (Afterburner controller installed about 1/2 way through)

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Similar to me. I have the older Maxpeedingrods heater in the van with a afterburner installed. Not had to do anything to it and it’s got just over 2000 run hours now

[@Plastipede]

Who were the makers of the better, non Chinese heaters that you mentioned? I couldn't understand when you said them.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Autoterm ( was Planar )

[@MotorhomeDIY]

I went with the super silent pump from James browningsmith absolutely amazing no noise at all any speed it’s in a waterproof box you can screw under the floor

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’ve seen quite a few photos and posts about that pump. Impressive looking bit of kit

[@MotorhomeDIY]

@@MispronouncedAdventures it’s brilliant mate My diesel heater is under the bed in the garage area of the motorhome so the noise was very loud lol Upgraded to the pump and silent at last 😂 Very fast to prime too

[@rodgersmith4116]

Can you confirm MaXpeedingrods ACTUALY are the manufacture this heater as they are an AUTOMOTIVE parts supplier.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Night heaters are automotive parts so it would make sense, They have always been made for Vehicles particularly trucks. My older heater which I’ve had for quite a few years is also Maxpeedingrods. And my Conversations with them and feedback I offered does make it appear that is their product with parts like the ECU, Controller, Case and so on. Other components will be made by suppliers.

[@SuperbikeSurgeryTV]

The rod is for the plug socket, how else do you think you are going to turn it 🤔

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

You are correct, I have used it a number of times now when stripping heaters. It can also be used to insert the new gauze / atomiser. The previous glow plug removal tools I’d seen you could use a spanner or socket on the hexagon all end of it.

[@overlandbyrover]

follow up questions. how is the range on the bluetooth? do you think if the motherboard and controller are purchased separately, they can be installed on the older model heaters as an upgrade?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I would of thought if you got the ecu and controller could be swapped if wanted

[@stevee8698]

I wanted to pass my exhaust flue through the top of a radiator and out through the bottom of it then outside; all downhill for moisture draining. What do you think ❓

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

For a bit of waste heat recovery? Only issue I could see is the restriction the radiator might cause to the heater exhaust, potentially effecting heaters burn and causing it to spot up quicker

[@mitchellcamps7595]

The thing that really sucks about this new heater is that they are no longer compatible with the Afterburner made by Ray Jones. The Afterburner is an amazing addition to the CDH

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yes I agree, I have used the Afterburner for 2 years now ( also the reason I haven’t used this heater ) but a ECU Compatible With afterburner is becoming rarer it’s seems with heater

[@mitchellcamps7595]

@@MispronouncedAdventures You're right, it is becoming hard but not impossible! I found a couple Amazon listings yesterday that look to be compatible, ran it by Ray and he said it looks to be compatible as well.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’m hoping to find a eBay listing of a individual compatible ECU so I can just order them. To have a back up ECU or two. Preferably the same PCB design to the one I currently have.

[@cwalke32477]

Do they make these in anything smaller? Say maybe a 2kw unit? I have a small cabin cruiser sailboat, that one if these would be awesome for, but 5kw is going to be bit much

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

There is also 2kw version as well

[@tedzehnder961]

Casting "flash" can cause those areas to have a spike in temperature as this thin material will be hotter or heat up unevenly.Rough casting surfaces collect residue easier.Don`t know if this would make cleaning more often or not.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Makes sense to me. Some of my heaters do have the flashes cleaned, some don’t

[@Rickyclimbschoss]

Great review, just saw this after purchasing one. Can you send a link for a new fuel lines you would recommend? And mounting plate (turret mount you said?) to put on top of a sub floor for installation? Definitely a neebie here and looking for some advice so I don’t have to redo this installation process more than needed. Thanks again and keep up the videos!

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Fuel lines I used “www.butlertechnik.com” it’s a British company and for turret mount I’d recommend eBay. There are lots of different lengths. So you’ll need to measure your floor depth and then a bit extra

[@davelees8022]

I used normal rubber fuel line prior to the pump. After the pump the fuel line needs to be narrow bore and stiff to maintain the pump pulses for fuel atomisation.

[@Miles7955]

Looks pretty decent, though honestly very skeptical about needing to create an account and give them access to your location and WiFi details, for an item that should be competently stand-alone from the internet.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

It is possible just to deny access to location data in the app. The only functionality I can see is for weather data if you want to use automations.

[@nexpro6985]

that so-called fuel filter (the blue and clear one) looks like a water trap used for small sprayguns and airbrushes.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I would agree, the mesh on the inside is as about as fine as you the smaller normal inline filter you seen in other kits.

[@mikefranks4528]

I got an Error 3 after a couple of clicks of the fuel pump. The voice on the controller said to check for a short on the pump, or some type of circuit issue but the book says otherwise. pump was obviously working, so no short or circuit issue there. I checked the glow plug, and all of its wiring is perfect not sure what else it could be; maybe a bad board straight from the manufacturer. just my luck. 😢

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Might be a bad board unfortunately. Error 3 I would have thought was glow plug and. Error 4 was pump. How have you tested the glow plug? direct 12v feed?

[@SpoonerTuner]

They need to add a "Frost Mode" to turn itself on and off at set temperatures like the Afterburner controller does. That would be a game changer.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah I’ve been using the afterburner for 2 years now. Could be without it

[@MotorhomeDIY]

I just want to comment on this because the Hcalory diesel heater I think it’s the hc-A22 now does this I also have the afterburner My diesel heater packed in and upgraded to this I was told to get by a friend It’s Bluetooth with auto cut off when reaches temps 24 hour timer to 7 days It’s brilliant I have the silent pump fitted that James browningsmith sells Look them up if you haven’t already

[@SpoonerTuner]

@Sean W oh nice! Ya, I wasn't aware of those heaters. Found them on eBay just now. Looks like only the Bluetooth versions have the automatic on/off frost mode feature. I also found another company that has the frost mode feature, and their controller is also Bluetooth but looks different. They use an orange case and the company name is written on the side MAX PeedingRODS

[@MotorhomeDIY]

@@SpoonerTuner yes buddy they have to be Bluetooth . My new one is actually 6-8.5kw I have only seen this type on the app Banggood

[@MotorhomeDIY]

This price has gone up 50 quid in a few weeks 😳 that’s how popular they have become This guy called David who tests the best heaters did a review on them He said it was his best Since then the sales sold out straight away I did notice the price went down on pre order I have mine on the lowest setting It very effective very hot but doesn’t use much battery on lowest either My best buy to date for the motorhome with the silent pump from James browningsmith Amazing honestly

[@joblessalex]

The only thing that'd make these worth keeping is a set of real Japanese bearings, a burn chamber design that's easy to clean, or a burn chamber that can't soot up, a glow plug that won't fry and is easy to obtain, a thermistor that won't die, and a control module that's far from the heater so it won't ever fry. Oh yeah, and a silent pump. Brushless low power fan would be baller too.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Burn chamber sooting up more to do with how the heater is used and installation than design. After all, the design is the same as the eberspacher D4. As for control module, Webasto, Eberspacher, Autoterm and Chinese all place to ECU on the heater as hall effect sensor for the motor speed is based directly on the PCB. Wouldn’t mind better bearings

[@joblessalex]

@@MispronouncedAdventures Yeah. That's not great. Having the module right against the heater is burning up the components much faster than if they were far away from the heat source. Moving the module away from the heat and changing to a brushless motor with no sensors would make eliminate all failure points. A design where you could separate the burn chamber with say a single set screw and a 20 degree twist and pull motion to easily clean the carbon would be awesome. Where I live the fuel is super crap. You get maybe a season between rebuilds. A two part design that could easily pop apart to scrape clean would make it unkillable. The thing would last 10+ years or more with all these upgrades. Working on building the ultimate one right now. Should have all that, afterburner controller, and water heater. The heater to end all others. Lol

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I use the afterburner myself on the main heater I have installed in the van best upgrade ever. I always thought having the ECU mounted on the heater was the ultimate failsafe in case of catastrophic failure. Frying the ECU would stop the pulses to the fuel pump. Definitely interested to see how your project turns out

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Curious, how are you doing? Hot water on your project? Downstream of the heater with something like Bobilvans or using the rarer version of the Chinese diesel heater, which has a air and water jacket?

[@joblessalex]

@@MispronouncedAdventures I'm probably going to use the China heater with the water jacket. Have a separate tank for hot water and circulate it through the heater until it's at desired temp. Just using it for showers. Maybe if I get fancy I'll do a heat exchanger and hook it to the engine to preheat.

[@shawncell1247]

the pump first then filter, pump low as you can but just barely above tank just in case of leak . but best for pump to be below tank

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Definitely not pump before filter. The whole point of the filters protect everything downstream of it from contaminants.

[@patrickday4206]

It seems crazy that they haven't made something similar to the afterburner yet as it's really not expensive on a large production scale.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I am also surprised by this. But then again, it might be the van/camper/motorhome market and those who are actually really interested in the very particular options of the afterburner are so minimal in the grand scheme of things, it’s not worth the effort from the production point of view. Or no one has feed back to them.

[@hubrisnaut]

What is the "afterburner"?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@@hubrisnaut a custom aftermarket controller project an Australian guy. Add so much incredible functionality to the units, including a perfectly working thermostat, frost mode, remote Internet access and so much more

[@hubrisnaut]

@@MispronouncedAdventures.. I worked on fighter jets in the military so I was thinking it was type of heater combustion using the same principal... lol ...

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Haha don’t worry. My RAF mate also looked at me inquisitively when I named it that. I do agree that the name is somewhat confusing!

[@rvvanlife]

Yes, You, can, buy a whole new unit for the price of the spare parts of the expensive, the problem is, is that you will need to have that spare unit on hand when the installed unit goes bad. In freezing weather, I much prefer the peace of mind from a reliable heater

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I don’t often find reliability to be issues with a good supplier. But I can also see your principal. I know many people have swapped out western brands for Chinese ones and vice versa

[@andrewcordery9052]

What was the second thermal camera you were using? The flir phone accessory was a bit disappointing when I tried it and that looked much cleaner. Didn't see it on your Amazon list. Thanks 😊

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

The FLIR will looks disappointing compared to the other unit as it’s a 8 times price different. FLIR units like that one are limited to below 9hz ( 8.7 frame rate ) for export reasons. Thermal sensors with frame rate higher than that count a dual use military / civilian hardware and need a export license to remove from the country of purchase. My second camera is a Puslar Axion XG35 thermal monocular which is 60hz and a lot higher resolution. It’s a waterproof unit, Im still trying to sort the license to take it from the UK. It’s primarily designed for recreational, hunting or wildlife spotting. also has a 5 m minimal focal distance, unlike the flir so I had to stand quite high back

[@CallaFab]

My Ecoflow Delta would not power up or power down my 5k diesel heater. The heater pulled more than 10 amp( up to 14). But it would run it after it was started.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Odd, Ive ran a number of diesel heaters on startup and on the River Pro 12v socket for hours. I didn’t know the delta and pro have a different in the socket . The Pro is a max of 136w ( 13.6v @ 10A ) but looking on ecoflows website the Delta socket is only 13.6v @ 8A ( 108w )

[@anotherbrickoutthewall9237]

Excellent video, does the screen of the control light stay on constant?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

That’s I’m not sure. I’d need to check but I think they are always lit

[@anotherbrickoutthewall9237]

@@MispronouncedAdventures thanks for the reply I was wondering if it would draw much power as I only have a 100amh battery and don't use it as much as you Vanlifers....

[@anotherbrickoutthewall9237]

@@MispronouncedAdventures hi I've just finished fitting this heater and the control screen is not coming on.. I have put the multi meter to the power supply for the screen and its reading 0.53volts does this seam Wright and the display screen is broken? Or is there not enough power getting to it? You're advice will be really appreciated.. Thanks in advance

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

0.53v sounds like a fault reading from a loose connection. I’d check all the connections. On the screen but also the main wring loop incase something is loose in the main plug

[@anotherbrickoutthewall9237]

@@MispronouncedAdventures OK thanks again I'll go check now 👍

[@mikepierce1724]

Rust quick them clamps last under the hood of trailer truck in Salt snow for years but is neat

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah the clamps they supply are chap. They hardly clamp and rust in no time

[@Diarmaid1985]

Have you had a look at afterburn. You seem to interested in automation do MQTT control would fit well if you went for a full van controll system. My preference isn OpemHAB but HomeAssistant is also an alternative

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

i didn’t mention in the video, that whilst I’m using an old version of the Maxpeedingrods heater im using it with an Afterburner and been using it for almost two years now. Which is the main reason I’m not installing this one, just testing it and having it as a spare. ECU’s which are compatible with Afterburner is getting rarer. For me, I also wanted to see if anything on the market is even compatible to the afterburner yet, it’s not

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

A number of people recently I’ve told me about looking at openhab and homeassistant. I’ve current got a free pi so I could take a look

[@Diarmaid1985]

Year a good example of the home automation systems is that you can drop the multiple apps and hubs a single ZigBee dongle will control al the 'smart' Lidl, hue IKEA and aqara products and allow rules based on the victron and many other things. Just from watching your videos I think it will be right up your street. Also fantastic videos and super informative. You've done your research!!!!

[@redkid72]

After researching a lot, I came across this video. Decided it was a good idea to try maxpeedinrods out. I never received the diesel heater at all! Think I'll give them a miss and try to order some other cheap Chinese diesel heater

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’m sorry to here that is the case, in the past I used their Amazon or eBay stores

[@redkid72]

@@MispronouncedAdventures I used their website! I'm now back to square one and stuck. Any other heater recommendations

[@nystro0m]

Is fan mode from air pipe outside van or inside intake on the heater unit?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Recirculating internal air

[@ezyjack826]

why don't you use an 8kw unit? I'm planning to use a diesel heater or two in my shop that is the size of a two car garage. I'll try one first and see if I need the second one or keep it as a backup. wondering what your thoughts are about an 8kw model? btw, really enjoyed the video. 🙂

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Hey. I don’t use as it would be be way to powerful for my van. But 8kw unit generally they don’t exist. There are a number of Chinese companies which sell a 8kw. But they are a 5kW body just on higher setting ( which is actually based off the eberspacher 4kw body ).

[@ankerjorgen]

In stead of letting the fuel pump do ALL the priming it´s possible to fill the filter and the hose manually :-)

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Normally I just suck on the pipe till I get a mouth fuel of diesel. If it’s installed in a vehicle and a few metal of fuel line

[@makuru3395]

My experience over 35 years with Webasto diesel heaters has shown that these devices last around 8000 to 8500 operating hours. In the truck of my mobile home, in the trailer and in the Ford van. In the meantime, the third Webasto has been installed in the Ackerman mobile home, built in 1977. I would like to travel with it for another 20 years. I don't buy Chinese firecrackers. my safety is important.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I’m not really bothered by brands ( apart from the Chinese area because there is a wide ranging of qualities. good & Bad ) if I’m honest, I’ve played with Webasto and eberspacher ( I have a Webasto Thermo top V as an engine pre heater, which is an excellent unit. ) but Webasto and eberspacher are overpriced, after all, they did get fined millions of euros in the Europe for price-fixing I have also used autoterm and I personally prefer them above everything else. The Chinese made one’s design themselves is just is the same as the Eberspacher D4 so the design itself is good, and the components usually bearings, ecu or accessories fail. Unlikely to have any type of catastrophic failure. Budget is the more important for the people and normally what dictates what brand they go for. Long-term safety of well fitted Chinese units, I don’t see as the problem, long-term reliability on the other hand is different.

[@gabrielsansar6187]

i married a chinese girl.. she is both fiery and crackers

[@escapetherace1943]

it's a diesel engine not a space rocket you goon

[@PlatisTobbe]

SO very good review of this china diesel heater. The app seems to be fast and problem-free. I'll put it on the wish list I think... if I think I can mount it. Thanks!

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah, I think it’s a rather good version to be honest. I guess most people don’t really care, too much about metal casting quality, balancing of internal fan and so on. the far more important for most people is just have a user interface controller & app. That they are both easy to use and of good quality.

[@PlatisTobbe]

@@MispronouncedAdventures Thanks! ☺

[@paulrobinson3528]

7:00 whats the symbol of the mountain and 167m?? Is it Alpine setting?? I'm 400 feet above sea level. My Maxpeedrod heater is showing 300m

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

One of the features of this heater is automatic altitude adjustment. However, I would say 167m was not particularly accurate to the location when I was filming ( I was lower ) . But I haven’t been able to properly test it

[@paulrobinson3528]

@@MispronouncedAdventures i switched on my 5kw Maxpeedrod all in one on yesterday for the first time and it was showing the same alttiude as yours so must be a default setting maybe?, gives out good heat though. Need to sort the exhaust out, the silencer has a small hole in the side of it letting fumes out, it stunk. Other reviews all have that hole.

[@gregoryg.campbell3874]

Did I hear you say that you have an air intake from the outside? I'm just using the air from the inside of my RV and suck it through the heater is that gonna bring me any difficulty? of course exhaust is plumbed to the outside

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Air intake as in air intake for the combustion side need to be on the outside, if they was every a issue and the heater stopped exhaust gases could potentially come out of the air intake. Air in take for the hot air side should be on the inside

[@gregoryg.campbell3874]

@@MispronouncedAdventures i am good then i was referring to "conditioned" air intake and not "combustion" air intake nice video thanks

[@vin9976]

Hey how can I get the thermostat INSIDE my camper while the heater is 1 meter away?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

The thermostat ( temperature sensor for the thermostat is inside the controller. Mount the controller where every you like, wires can be cut and extended if need be

[@MrPaddyelvis]

Hi, what thermal imaging cameras are you using please?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I used two in the video. The one with temp data is Flir pro one LT and the high resolution one is a Pulsar Axion 2 XG35

[@That_Ultra_Guy]

Was told there's a fan only mode for the summertime do you know how to enter that mode ?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

It’s can be done via the app ( select on drop down menu ) or on the controller, but I don’t manual on me and can’t remember how / which buttons to access it

[@That_Ultra_Guy]

@Mispronounced Adventures im waiting on my order of this to arrive your video helped me decide which one to go with thank you

[@BinderThomas123]

Great review which gave me enough info so I have now bought same. I also powered with a Victron charger as it seem you did in the review, but mine simply shut off the power abd in the display it says 'U 12v'. Have you seen this on your setup?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

In the off mode I do believe mine also shows U 12V. Did you make sure the Victron unit is set to “power supply” mode and not “charger mode” on the Victron Bluetooth app?

[@BinderThomas123]

@@MispronouncedAdventures tried this today, but unfortunately not solved the issue, so I will just run it attached to a battery and the Victron charger.

[@bparker6442]

hey Alex, did you ever use this MSR unit with the afterburner?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Not this particular Maxspeedingrods unit as the ECU is incompatible. My two year old maxspeedingrods unit on the other hand is what I use

[@Refertech101]

I have heated my house with Chinese diesel for 2 years now, 1 had a fan bearing issue, because I left it too long it took motor out so my fault, so I got new motor put in high quality bearings and now it is in the basement. I leave the atomizer out, they don't seem to do much other than plug!

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

It’s good to hear I know a few other people who have heated houses with them. Good job replacing the fan motor. I see a lot of people does buying the new front half of the unit because they end up cracking the fan trying to replace the motor

[@AndreasPaukner-Ruzicka]

Hi, I just recently purchased the mxr-1f heater and it work pretty well in heating modes but I cannot find a way to switch to fan only mode. The app also only shows smart mode. What do I make wrong ?

[@docbarham2431]

Thanks Alex!😊

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

No problem at all, hope it helps you make a decision if you’re after one

[@scotnorth]

Great video What make model and price.Thanks

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Thank you, there is a link to the unit in the video description

[@overlandbyrover]

how is the display on the controller? I have the blue controller with the red lcd remote and the controller display is horrible. can't see it at all unless looking directly at it, and also horrible in sunlight. makes it very hard to mount in the vehicle cabin.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yes, I agree as I said in the video that direct sunlight outside I had difficulty viewing the screen, internally I didn’t have too much of a problem seeing it

[@llspragulus]

Are you able to turn these so the intake and exhaust sit horizontal versus vertical?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

You can side mount the unit but from the understand only if the glow plug remains on the top side

[@jesterwaterwizard2917]

I have the same unit connected to a new liesure battery , same procedure as yourself , keeps blowing fuses , came with 15 amp fuse gone through 4 now I’m hoping you might be able to help me … desperate now cheers in advance

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Does the fuse blow immediately or random? Or when something happen like first turn on the unit or turn off

[@Flash1857]

Good run down and review, thanks

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Thanks for watching!

[@LisaKerryTravelAdventures]

Will this heater still work without bluetooth please?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yes, the Bluetooth is only an extra feature if you want. There is no need to use it if you don’t want too

[@nexpro6985]

If a Chinese app demands access to your files, camera, location etc. say no and uninstall it immediately. The Chinese government has access to the data of all Chinese companies. There is absolutely no reason for a heater app to know your location.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Not going to disagree about granting access to unnecessarily data and what happens to data and who it’s used by . The “Location data” on the app is used for weather data. The app is more for home automation than just the heater on its own ( other none heater things can be added ) . Weather data can be used for home automation’s. Or can be disable in the app or in your phone settings for the app

[@jaaayg2791]

can i extend the positive and negative cable on a diesel heater loom

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yes, I often cut out the majority of the original power cable and replace it with thicker cable to decrease the issues associated with voltage drop or if I need it to be longer

[@jaaayg2791]

@@MispronouncedAdventures thankyou !

[@nielsdelrue7242]

Now waiting for a heater like this with water heater in The first air end water heaters are stil not made like this If you have more info let me know 😊

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

There are a few versions of the Chinese made air heater which have the hydronic loop/water jacket also around normal heat exchanger. IV to play with one. Although it is best to remember, those type of heaters are not for heating water directly they are for heating a coolant loop. And then, to have a heat, exchanger to get hot water if required.

[@nielsdelrue7242]

@@MispronouncedAdventures yes i saw some video's I want to make a close loop system with coulant en radiator that lay in a second 80l plastic tub But these chinese water end air heaters , i dont like the controller. You cant program a temperture or so Just turn a knob in 5 different levens. It wil be so much more perfect to set i want 35° water end 20° air end run it like this Maybe i want to much 😁

[@x-land-camp415]

It don´t work with the EcoFlow River Pro on 12V properly. Last Week we got -10°C, the power delivery of the River Pro cut of many times at pre heating.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Odd I’ve run off mine and a 2kw, as well as a autoterm 2kw off the 12v port on my River Pro and Jackery 500. But interesting you should point this out as another channel called ”David Mcluckie” had the strange occurrence of originally the heaters running off the 12 V ports on his portable power banks, and then the same heater later on not running off 12 V ports and overloading the ports. There had also been some change in some of ports as well with portable power bank being 10A and some 8A output. I’m sorry that that doesn’t help you, there seems to be variation.

[@x-land-camp415]

@@MispronouncedAdventures I now have a 15A 230V power supply from victron, no problems in the future. Needed it for many reasons. Greetings from northern germany, thx for your video.

[@dannynova3412]

The FIRST thing to do to make them better instead of an app is a better fuel line hose .

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I was surprised and disappointed as I said in the video to see the green fuel line. I’ve seen many other brands came with white hardline now a days .

[@Gmanxie]

Hi Alex, I seen @urbanvanlife had to use a special hose thing to tap into his fuel tank underneath his Ford transit and he mentioned you have him the tip. Is that something I have to buy separate or will everything to in the kit ready for install straight to the van fuel tank? Thanks

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

It’s a kit you need to buy extra. www.butlertechnik.com/eberspacher-ford-transit-mercedes-vito-fuel-tank-pick-up-e7193-292199017193-p1702

[@Gmanxie]

@@MispronouncedAdventures I have a vivaro sportive 2019 swb. I’d still need a kit for that model van? Thanks mate

[@ianpierce1888]

Alex I'm curious to know if this works with the Afterburner controller please?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

This unit will not work with the afterburner by default as it’s a incompatible ECU. However you can ECU swap the to a compatible one. The Facebook group for the afterburner is a good place to learn about what ECU’s / controller will work and which won’t

[@Transit-mk8-camper]

@@MispronouncedAdventures thank you for your quick response, I'll take a look at the group

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

No problem

[@psholmes717]

So is this still really a 3.5k heater like all the 5k/8k labeled Chinese heaters? Has any Chinese company produced a real 5kw heater yet?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah indeed it is. I never understood why they all call it’s a 5kw, after all it’s designed on the Eberspacher D4 unit ( like all the Chinese units ) . Which the give away is the name the is “4” . For the 8kw yes and no. I know it used to be the case almost all the 2kw, 5kw & 8kw we’re all actually the 5kw ( real 3.5kw-4kw ). A lots of 8kw units still are 5kw body. But I have seen some labelled 8kw Chinese units using a far larger unit than the 5kw unit.

[@bennystokes8481]

hi there do these only work and set up via bluetooth? i dont have an app phone and was hoping to do it via the controller manually? thanks if you can help.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

The Bluetooth part is only a “extra” / add on. You should be able to do all the normal set up via the controller without it

[@shiyujiang6936]

Installed my last weekend, no error code but it, neither the fan or the pump started, checked all power and they all connected and reached the logic board inside, but the display shows 0.00v, I now suspect either my LCD switch is faulty or the logic board is--- My LCD display is very hard to view, brightness is very very low.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Definitely doesn’t sound right to me I will check the connections in the premade plugs to see if any of the cables are loose. If not, I would speak to who supplied it and get a replacement. Hopefully you get it sorted.

[@baddriversaustralia1821]

@@MispronouncedAdventures test all cables and their after sales team is very helpful and offer a new internal logic board--- However I am not sure who the LCD display is so dimmed, will update once replaced with success--if the logic board is indeed the source of the problem. Your review is very informative and helpful, I should have pilot tested it before fixing it to the camper floor though. Comparing to this expected core fault of controller board, I am very surprised by their attendance to my enquiry online, friendly and helpful as well considering it is only 200 AUD.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

@baddriversaustralia1821 glad to hear they were helpful. I did find the display not the most bright in direct sunlight, but rather clear at inside the van. Glad to hear their after sales department was helpful.

[@SR20FTW]

Can these be set up on a timer? Say to come on every hour for a target amount of time?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

You can set timer for it to come on but I don’t believe you can set A particular duration might be wrong, but haven’t tested that far in timer.

[@SR20FTW]

@@MispronouncedAdventures Interesting. I have a water shed I'd like to keep warm during the winter, but I'd like to to come on for short durations just to keep warm air pumped in every hour or so for about 15 mins.

[@sil8127]

Do you not find your back door seals leak given the carpet is in there?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

No because I particularly made sure there is no carpet on the metal area which is where it seals. I outlined the door seals areas from the interior before I applied the carpet.

[@antonispap]

Do you know how to access advanced settings and change fan speed and fuel injection frequency? Thanks

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I haven’t found the advanced menu with the PIN code like on the older black controllers for tuning . I’ll take a look and get back to you

[@antonispap]

@@MispronouncedAdventures thank you very much! Keep up the good work!

[@wallacegrommet9343]

How about a brushless fan motor? The QC on the new model looks yucky

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Not taken the fan motor apart before. I know the western brands and the Autoterms use brushless motors. Amongst the Chinese manufacturers there are so many different producers of range quality and Price I’d imagine as a mix of brushed & brushless amongst varying companies I wasn’t particularly impressed of the quality control on this particular casting.

[@DonHavjuan]

Buy cheap buy twice. Yes. That's exactly what you should do when the alternative is spending 5 or 10 times more.

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I agree. The prices of the western models are extraordinarily expensive. The option in this case to buy cheaper and buy twice it’s quite an appealing option

[@garysollis5949]

Hi . Hope you think about the right tyres or have snow chains now you know what it's like up here .. we are changing ours over in the next week or so ..looking forward to watching your next journey up .. good luck .. are you starting soon or next year .. cheers .

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

No problem with the tyres I’ll be using the same again, however, I might buy a new set of ko2 on the rear as I done 30k with them now, I did 6000 miles in that winter trip with them. The only slips were when it was getting towards spring and warming up and melting and refreezing . If you’re there for the transition period between autumn and winter or winter and spring, the hundred percent studded tyres are needed, way too much ice around. Depths of winter is compressed snow and crushed ice which is covering the roads which is more about the tread on your tyres over studs. I’ll be picking up a new set of chains when I’m up, but even when I got bogged down the van in the deep snow, I had no problem getting out. I’ll be heading up the first week of January. If you are heading up soon, good plan on changing the tyres, what are you looking at putting on?

[@garysollis5949]

I live up on the Barents sea coast . East Side. Been here since 87 .. along from north Cape towards kirkenes.. Jan and Feb are the worse for storms March April plenty new snow .. Will be watching 👍

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I would also say I’m generally going to be avoiding the coastal areas of the north! As coastal as always more moderate temperatures and more likelihood for ice. More of the interior

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

That being said kirkenes and Vardø where on the potential cards if I’ve got a weather window and I think it’s safe.

[@deathbyninja11]

Can you program the fuel/air mixture (fan spd vs hz) like you can with the old controller? I am interested in being able to tune it further and no one has talked about that much on YT yet for these new ones.

[@johnnysweekends]

It seems all the engines are the same. I don’t see a lot of difference. Just the case and housing and accessories are different

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Pretty much. The design is more or less the same across the board. I wouldn’t call them engines though.

[@johnnysweekends]

@@MispronouncedAdventures that is what I have noticed, just the case and everything else differs. How ever I think it would be termed as a engine since it is a internal combustion type like a “jet engine” verses a motor more commonly used in the electrical aspects. But now a days they are both used interchangeably..🤷‍♂️👍🏼

[@bennystokes8481]

connect a wind turbine in front of the fan for some free electric..you can buy them micro turbines and they can be used in water..heat to electric recovery perhaps.? youve seen them avertised where they throw them in a stream..

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Unfortunately wind turbine in front of the vent wouldn’t work for power recovery. As the air being moved from is electric motor fan side of the unit

[@moo3852]

I use mine 24/7 for almost 5 months at a time.... 3rd year now

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Good to hear. I use my current one for over 2 years most of the winter. Great units

[@uptowndisco2]

Hi my all in one version just arrived today , not yet unpacked or opened so cant give my thought yet , but I did read another reviewer saying the green line is not the normal cheap one that hardens over time , but is an upgraded compound for fuel use , it does have a name but I cannot remember it lol , I do already use diesel heaters but looking forwards to trying this new one , as mine is the all in one heater I have ordered the 230 volt mains to 12 volt adapter but not arrived yet .

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

That’s interesting to hear. I’ve never heard of that before myself do you know is who is Video that is? . Comparison to some of the two-year-old plus green hose reels I’ve got lying around it seems identical in every way colour, texture, softness but if that’s the case and is a new compound / material that is great news, as it’s very easy to work with. I’ve just seen a lot of the other heater kits, dropping the green hose and replacing it with hardline. The Jubilee clips are still rubbish however 😂 But I think it’s a good heater kit overall.

[@uptowndisco2]

@@MispronouncedAdventures sorry I have watched so many I forget who now lol , I have used in the past the green line it was in use for 2 years without degradation so there might be differing quality supplied in the kits ? fittings , I have a new Lavaner brand heater in the box as well , the supplied fittings for it are all much better with proper exhaust clamps and thicker supply wiring , the Lavaner heaters are priced a bit higher than the cheap ones but cheaper than the expensive ones

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

Yeah, I have heard lavaner are considered some of the best in this area quality wise

[@hslot3276]

12:59 is that a bloody water filter with a valve at the bottom that you can press to empty the filter ??? that doesnt look like a fuel filter to me . i see m on ebay sold as water filter hmm ok if the mesh is small enough below 50 micron that could work im curious can you put some water in a cup of diesel shake it upp and see if it does seperate the watter and collects it at the bottom ?

[@MispronouncedAdventures]

I do agree, but does have a very very fine mesh filter sheet inside which is comparable to the in-line filter I’ve seen in other kits. Is there any reason it can’t be both?

[@hslot3276]

@@MispronouncedAdventures Nope no reason but the blue collor just shouts water to me and not diesel like yellow . The reason i asked is Mr funnel sells funnels that have a mesh filter of 50 micron and that seperates the water molecules from the diesel/gasoline it lets the gasoline/diesel thru but it stops the water molecules and collects them due to the fine mesh filter. So if that filter is 50 micron or smalller and you have water in your diesel wich is hydroscopic it should collect the water at the bottom in the filter housing . thats why i asked does it seperate the water from the diesel ? :)