Triforce Vayne is BROKEN. Here's Why.

[@uploadexe6915]

because of you i always except a "but the adc dies anyways" even during long videos

[@erikn.9180]

before it was removed i loved to go frozen mallet on vayne since you got 700hp sum ad and a slow, imo it was a perfect 4th item for kiting and surviving back then

[@KenaPKK]

I miss frozen mallet vayne :(

[@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940]

it was op. point and click slow like nasus without cd but weaker? extremly unfair

[@KenaPKK]

@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 yup, that's why they removed it. no one said it was balanced. also frozen mallet didn't slow attack speed

[@t3mp0rary151]

bring back frozen mallet yasuo top

[@CostelloDamian]

RIP frozen mallet Vayne :( those were the days

[@ghosthamster6521]

I like to go tanky on veigar as well. I think any character with built in damage, just doesn't need to build damage.

[@m3zuss]

Like people been playing shielbow/kraken rageblade + full tank items for ages. Triforce is just busted for quite some time

[@choko8707]

Another reason to go for durability runes on your second page is that you can rush berserker's greaves before your first item, which is super valuable on auto attacks based adc like Vayne or Ashe. While most of adc loves to save 300g on the boots, other just need them faster

[@CostelloDamian]

Exactly that. Berserker's are always the first item I build on Vayne. You get about 300g worth of stats from def tree anyway.

[@primem9824]

I really appreciate these videos really helps adc players find those characters they wanna learn n go far with

[@louis9232]

for sure i gotta start building more defensive items on adcs, even one tank item goes along way against getting popped by the enemy team's carry

[@letherobr3178]

hey, do you have any comments on fleet flootwork max Q first Vayne's build? i have heard about it but i never saw someone doing it

[@MissFortuneDaBes]

I don't think it's optimal, but I also haven't looked into it much yet

[@Alzzael]

@@MissFortuneDaBes i've been playing it most of the time : better lanes better win rate too, with either statikk or Stormrazor

[@MangaGamified]

Try it and tell us

[@wingman4902]

cant wait for tri force(among other items) to be nerfed instead of nerfing vayne or making it work differently for ranged and melee

[@timcan4176]

When KZbin videos started having 4+ ads each, it was time for adblock

[@Jasongy827]

I want to master one champion that encompasses most situation like a jack of all trades for adc.

[@paulopettoruti7030]

Os kog a goog triforce user? Could a triforce tank kog be viable?

[@rex9412]

riot seeing Vayne building bruiser and tank items. it's fine. zeri builds 1 bruiser item. riot: time to delete the champion.

[@choko8707]

Zeri's kit makes her so good in pro play, while both are terrors in solo queue, Vayne solo target damage makes her easier to balance in pro play

[@rex9412]

@@choko8707 yeah but i don't give 2 shits about pro play cause the game they play isn't the same one 99.9% of players play. i think you should nerf for pro play but why the fuck does riot want every champ to be viable in challenger?????. like garen and lux shouldn't be so over stated that they can be played at high ranks when 95% of players aren't going to be able to dodged 100% of lux's q's and e's cause getting hit by 1 q and you die past 1 item and boots at the latest if not earlier. and i just don't get how garen being able to be brain dead as to someone with 5 games of league can do well with him. like im not good but I would say I am pretty average at the game with most of my matches that I feel like I am not stomping but not getting destroyed tends to be high silver low gold. but that's more of a guess cause the match maker puts people anywhere form iron 2 to masters.

[@VeeZzz123]

and who is this player? on what region?

[@vitin3817]

what do you mean by "map pressure" with statikk shiv? and do we buy it or stormrazor because of her q auto damage?

[@ghhlx9863]

you can push map pressure with statikk because it buffs wave clear insanely hard, allowing you to do more on the map

[@vitin3817]

@@ghhlx9863 is statikk shiv and stormrazor good on vayne because of its magic damage on her q too?

[@AlienSliker]

why randuin if you can do frozen heart? i dont understand, randuin is heavily nerfed

[@jaydenannett1486]

Crit resist, hp and the active slow for even better kiting

[@CostelloDamian]

IMO Ravenous Hydra is massively overslept item on Vayne in plance of Static Shiv. It gives you wave clear and lifesteal while providing most AD in the game and 20 ability haste which is the most effective best bang for buck threshold.

[@hayato...]

I've seen Vaynes with titanic hydra instead

[@CostelloDamian]

@@hayato... It's not bad but you need to stack hp to makr it worth buying and does not provide lifesteal. I think tank vayne it's more of a meme smurfing build though

[@rokasb9441]

I feel sad for that draven from the replay.. can't even cut through milio's shields

[@shadowraith10]

Okay but can I do this for Aphelios? I'mma try Triforce Aphelios later.

[@pedrinbalafina4122]

Thanks, I play lots of vayne, and I'm good with the champion, so am I with other champions that I mastered but the thing is... I don't know why they work and that's the main reason why I'm stuck in my elo, so explaining the WHY of why does that build works, why this champion works with this and that, the WHY is really important, and there is not enough content explaining that due to the game having 100+ champions. Thanks again, and goodbye.

[@Flo-lr9sh]

i saw a vayne with yumuu and one shot enemy team

[@gytis321s2]

Movement speed movement speed movement speed. Try building Try Force + Whits End + Phantom Dancer lol... you like on permanent Ghost.

[@ryugaroxas]

iI literally just test this in Ranked as first time vayne and I carry the game with 20 kills and MVP XD

[@MangaGamified]

did u went Statik Shive or Kraken

[@ryugaroxas]

@@MangaGamified i go shiv just like the video because although kraken more damage but shiv clear wave way faster which is vayne biggest weakness. Vayne Q and R also stack shiv way faster than other adc so it's easier to proc shiv in combat too and shiv damage is pretty huge . I first time vayne so i go with fleet though. Not lethal tempo like in video . Cause my sup is pretty weak so fleet help a tons with laning phase and vayne mobility help stack fleet with shiv way faster too

[@antonioc.6901]

i dont liked it that u dont showed much of hre laning phase and thats the most important part of her!

[@MissFortuneDaBes]

this video was more about the new itemization. for a longer lane phase segment, you can see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWmaepmBhs6Xjqssi=V-T85hBOlMGqj0IV

[@Glomshade4Life]

it doesnt matter what u build if u know how to play.

[@merelneeikbengeenkerel5806]

i think triforce kogmaw should be good (again) aswell just like in the old days.

[@cheyhey2170]

why would it be good on him?

[@aohjii]

cuz kog can trigger triforce passive very easily with his ult@@cheyhey2170

[@KenaPKK]

@@cheyhey2170 he uses all the stats, his ult lets him proc sheen on cd, and he deals even more dps than vayne (so he can build a tankier, like her)

[@cheyhey2170]

@@KenaPKK his dps is based on having 2.5-3 as with lethal and his W on, not "forced" by using Q a lot. he also needs his botrk early on and for 2nd item rageblade is just way more dps than trinity. the hp is nice honestly, but he cant utilize sheen as well as it looks on paper. the dual pen is also insanely good on him from rageblade passive rageblade is just much better in comparison

[@KenaPKK]

@@cheyhey2170 we know rageblade is more dps. it's more dps on vayne too. your question was why is trinity good on kog. it's good for the reasons i stated and is worth using if you want to trade some damage for extra health and movement speed

[@NightridingDoom]

Something that is missed: on Kaisa also makes very good use of defensive items, be it ap or ad. Despite being lategame hypercarry, she only needs nashors tooth for damage. (E max kaisa is strong early as well). Getting triforce or goredrinker first and then nashor doesn't hinder you at all and gives you everything you need.

[@choko8707]

But the video is about vayne

[@NightridingDoom]

except the part where they mentioned kaisa@@choko8707

[@michealman264]

Nilah diff

[@crystalrage]

so this is why there are vayne adcs losing in all my games

[@KenaPKK]

Don't share the secrets! :)

[@Dyna1One]

I don’t agree with Lethal Tempo, if you want to be aggro, go for HoB it’s great right now and if you want consistency, go for footwork. You need something that gets you through the early game whether that’s offensicely or defensively, and then build from there. Vayne’s always been great with tanky builds, used to love randuins/fon to shut down their main damage, though the W nerf after top vayne has hurt it quite a bit on that front but made the Q max so much stronger on bot

[@MyNameIsKairos]

I can't find HoB to be a good choice overall unless you have an aggressive support to take advantage of the Bounty Hunter and Triumph runes to snowball.

[@Dyna1One]

That's definitely a matter of personal preference (just like how people enjoy tempo) It can be very oppressiveif you're confident in your ability to efficiently trade and snowballs heavily early IF you can make it happen, though definitely not a consistent choice unless you're gapping the enemy botlane.@@MyNameIsKairos

[@MangaGamified]

I used to have fun with Tank Vayne, anyone remember Raegblade, DD, Bork, Wits end, and other stuff Vayne? Years later I had fun with ADC mundo(but still tank items) until they removed Bami cinder on AA. Currently there's nothing fun with League anymore except when RGM's come.

[@Dyna1One]

@@MangaGamified I personally played a lot of tank vayne before I quit back when Runes Reforged happened, came back in April and it's definitely a lot different from how it used to be. Though I am definitely enjoying it a lot, the game did have more fun builds and freedom. RGMs are really fun though and excited to try out Nexus Blitz!

[@duckbytetoast]

for agressive lanes i pref going pta and sudden impact, hail of blades always feels kinda weird

[@leeroyj7300]

ppl getting vayne to build tankier? yeah its time to uninstall unless riot addresses this and forces her into full dmg

[@Moretrailsmorecamping]

please quit sharing strengths, going to get my champ nerfed