MISSISSIPPI CHOCTAW/BLACK INDIANS.mpg

THESE ARE 19TH AND EARLY 20TH CENTURY PHOTOS OF MISSISSIPPI CHOCTAWS;,A CREEK; NEZ PERCE AND A STATUE OF A NATIVE AMERICAN.
PROFESSOR GATES AND HIS EXPERTS RAISED DOUBT THAT BLACKS AND NATIVE AMERICAN MIXED EXCEPT IN VERY FEW INSTANCES IN HISTORY. GIVING AMMUNITION TO THE DOUBTERS. YET, HE LEFT OUT THE UNIQUE HISTORY OF THE CHOCTAW INDIANS. MANY CHOCTAWS REMAINED IN MISSISSIPPI EVEN AFTER THEIR 1830'S REMOVAL. THEY WERE HIRED BY PLANTATION OWNERS TO DO HOUSE WORK, COOK AND YES, TO EVEN DO FIELD WORK, DURING THE TIME OF SLAVERY AND AFTERWARD,
MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE PLACED FAMILY PHOTOS ON THE WEB IN ORDER TO PROVE THEIR INDIAN HERITAGE THEIR EFFORTS ARE SCORNED AND RIDICULED BY MANY ACCUSING THEM OF NOT WANTING TO BE BLACK, WHAT SON WOULD GIVE UP HIS FATHER JUST BECAUSE OF THE PREJUDICES OF ANOTHER?
GIVING UP YOUR HERITAGE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN GIVING UP YOUR PARENTAGE - AND NO MAN KNOWINGLY CHOOSES TO BE A BASTARD.
A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, BUT EVEN A THOUSAND WORDS SIGNIFIES NOTHING WHEN THERE IS NO PROOF TO SUPPORT THEM. SO I HAVE EMPLOYED A NEW TACT IN THIS PHOTO OF WORDS PROVING INDIAN HERITAGE.
I'M INTRODUCING PHOTOS OF MY ANCESTORS IN THE MIDST OF PHOTOS OF IMPORTANT CHOCTAWS AND OTHER FAMOUS INDIANS LIVING DURING OR NEAR THE TIMES OF MY RELATIVES LIFETIME.

[@ten0785]

It's crazy how my grandmother looks exactly like this. Exactly.

[@djondjon]

My ex's grandmother resembled one of these ladies. My ex is Haïtian.

[@jalen7560]

Mine too

[@lyanimoody6554]

Mine also 😊

[@stormy-le6pb]

@@djondjon She's less than 1/4 Choctaw, thats why she looks more African than N.A.

[@catsdogsbaby8318]

Ur indian

[@ladyamazon4475dj]

I'm black and Choctaw we are from Jackson Mississippi I don't know my history but I'm ready to learn. This is something my family has never discussed!!!

[@toddmaek5436]

Talk with your elders before its too late

[@ladyamazon4475dj]

@@toddmaek5436 My family has been brainwashed.. they don't care to know!! I have nothing to start from! 😭

[@autochthonoushistory1]

Black is Civilter Mortuus.We are Americans or American Indians.

[@Civilwar.relics]

If your truly Choctaw than your ancestors were confederate soliders and that is a documented fact, I'm Cherokee white dad, full blood Cherokee on my mothers side, her ancestors fought for the Confederacy, my dad is Scandinavian, from the Sámi peoples of Denmark.

[@Hairarchives]

My family is from Jackson as well and Choctaw

[@sheilag.834]

Thanks for this! I don't know where the stupid idea that one is denying one's blackness if one acknowledges one's Native American/Indian or other than African heritage too. Black is only a racial term that doesn't reveal what one's heritage is. I believe it's from the idea that black people & Africans aren't really human & without culture. I'm so glad you shared this because it helps us to see that we are not alone. Black Americans are supposed to deny self & family & heritage. Such bull! It pains me that people yell in my face when I acknowledge my Cherokee & Chocktaw ancestors (family members) who suffered through The Trail of Tears. Peace!

[@kbull612]

+Sheela Grant Thank you. You're right, when you're of African heritage the haters come out. So I decided there's only two possibilities. Either they just can't believe there was Native American contact, or they don't know what a native American looked like or looks like. I've decided to put it directly in their faces, instead of arguing with them. I've created a video that show all the excuses they've come up with such as, its European blood, or mulatto. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apu3dXWOgt97bLM . Or, Indians don't have thick lips as if Euro blood may not change lips thickness but Indian blood does. They can say I'm lying but they going to see the truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apu3dXWOgt97bLM

[@scherrietate]

WELL SAID! I'M CLAIMING MY BLACK HERITAGE ASWELL AS MY NATIVE. CHOCTAW!!!!!

[@shirleyharris3405]

My fathers mother was choctaw, irish, and African-American. Choctaw were the 1st ones to walk the trail of tears. But when ppl seen my grandmother they would say she all white she cant be ur grandmother i would say no shes not my grandmother, shes my big mama. Thats wat we use to call her.

[@ava7163]

Yesssssssssssss - Thomas C- Jackson: El

[@lionessofel3203]

My grandmother was Choctaw and Cherokee ( keetoowah) as well. No black ancestry though that I know of. You are what you are. I am thankful there is no genealogy in Christ Jesus.

[@srdemarkes]

It's great to see these photos, my grandfather was a Black Indian from Mississippi. We know little about his hostory because he was adopted & left his family @ the age of 15. We as people deserve to know our history & ancestry.

[@prophetessskfrazier]

My Grandfather was Choctaw born in Indian territory in Oklahoma. So were conducting deep researcher to find the link from Mississippi to Oklahoma. But were in Texas. Im about to solve this puzzle.

[@humblewarrior7593]

My grandmother Choctaw and Cherokee Mississippi. The cheek bones give us away.

[@stormy-le6pb]

Any one can have high cheekbones. I've seen many white actors & actressess with high cheekbones & they aren't Indians & I've seen a lot of Blcks also with high cheekbones & they aren't Indians either.

[@NoName-gh5mq]

@@stormy-le6pb if you know PHENOTYPES then you can tell what he means, my family posses these same cheekbones

[@stormy-le6pb]

@@NoName-gh5mq I'm N.A. & was raised around Whites most of my life, & I've always heard from them that NDNs have high cheekbones & they always wanted me see their high cheekbones 2 prove 2 me they had a NDN ancestor & 2 look at a photo of someone N their family who had dark skin like an NDN. They always said, "Can U see how dark he/she is, shes the only one n the family that takes after the NDN ancestor.

[@NoName-gh5mq]

@@stormy-le6pb u are WHYYTE, stop hating Yourself

[@stormy-le6pb]

@@NoName-gh5mq I know Blcks hate NDNs with a passion but God led our ancestors here 4 a reason U can read N Acts 17:26 "And God made from 1 man every nation of mankind 2 live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods & the boundaries of their dwelling place, that they should seek God, & perhaps feel their way toward him & find him. Yet he is actually not far from each 1 of us"

[@YerfDoggyDogg]

my mother is Choctaw, we half breeds get no respect, I am still proud to be Choctaw and study my native luggage and culture!

[@DieWealthyEntertainment]

Your not a half breed the original Choctaw Indians was black. Facts

[@stormy-le6pb]

@@DieWealthyEntertainmentChoctaw were here 10,000 yrs B4 blacks were imported here N 1621, so stop the covetousness of Choctaw history N UR heart. The sin of Coveting begins N the heart & is the root of all sin. U have selfish desire 2 take away the Choctaw history from Choctaw ppl so Blacks can steal, covet, & own it out of greed 4 what Choctaw have. Covetousness is idolatry.

[@tippy550storm]

@@DieWealthyEntertainment blacks descend from imported Sub Saharan Nigerian, Igboo, Congo & black call themselves a color of black when that is not a race, its a color. What blacks are is Nigerian, Igboo, Congo & other west coast African nations. UR aboriginal & indigenous to Africa & to European since all A.A. have at least 10-24% European DNA.

[@tippy550storm]

@@DieWealthyEntertainment Original Chatah descend from Paleo Mongoloid Asian that arrived here during the Ice Ages with their own language that God gave to them at the Tower of Babel when He scattered all nations to lands He determined they should live. He led Chatah here & they still speak Chatah N land God led them to, then white imported blacks here.

[@jluvbaby]

The truth is finally coming to light for those that really want to see...

[@stormy-le6pb]

He's showing picture of his family that look more African than N.A. thats why Blcks believe they R looking at N.A.'s, when in reality they are looking at Africans that have little bit of Choctaw in them

[@catsdogsbaby8318]

@@stormy-le6pb Indians are black

[@blackumbrellagangent2926]

😂

[@DramacydalEL]

My family is from Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi. Im Choctaw/Cherokee/Washita

[@devora4809]

Cool

[@iamalemon1808]

Natives are not black. So you are mixed.

[@sonofapollo5892]

I am A lemon Natives are copper color.Different shades of color.Many you see today are $5 indians they payed for the paperwork to say there indians years ago.

[@stormy-le6pb]

@@sonofapollo5892 N.A.s are copper colored, not black. Blacks can B as light as N.A.'s when they are heavily mixed with European DNA. DNA studies say A.A.s on average have 10-24% European DNA, so many blacks aren't black like their African ancestors. A lot of miscegenation.

[@stormy-le6pb]

@@sonofapollo5892 Nope, the $5 Indian don't mean anything. Its just a slur hateful blacks have for the original First Americans & Whites.

[@Dremelody10]

My family is Mississippi Choctaw/ Carolina Cherokee. It's okay some of those people look like my family member

[@ava7163]

likewise. Thomas C-Jackson: El

[@ramsfire]

Great Sammy Davis Jr. Track in the background....Excellent Collage of images of our folks representing the Full Spectrum of the Tribe.

[@godjewlz1381]

My great grandmother was Choctaw and Chickasaw from Mississippi

[@ricosuave7362]

Im from Louisiana and to this day native americans and black people have a very close bond that goes back to the early 1700's. A lot of slaves escaped to Indian reservations and they took them in.

[@kmk2555]

Carl Eleck He has the right idea, though. Before the Rolls, Natives and Blacks and Whites collaborated together, especially where trade was booming on the Mississippi. It was technically, France in the 1700s. But there were Native and Black collaborations between families, marriages, and in general, children. My wazhazhe great great great grand-parents are from such unions from Mississippi unto Ohio, Illinois, Missouri and Kansas. fact check

[@kmk2555]

KM K Also blame the American social studies classes from kindergarten until today. I grew up in a part of America where we were socialized from youth to not respect Native people or their cultures, and when we did, it was just an appropriated aspect of deep Knowledge that white, paternalistic elite hegemony used to prop itself upon, just like America is propped up by the genocide of Native and Black people in the U.S., as well as the disenfranchisement of anyone who could not exist in at the small, safe, privileged space atop the pyramid of systematic destitution.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

+Nicole N Tell them

[@elainebmack]

Not so. It is being proven that there were Blacks in the Americas long before Columbus. They were explorers and settlers, not slaves.

[@theanswer7354]

lori jallissa springberg4 this IS a part of our culture history and genetics. why would you want to deny it? some Black people CAN trace their roots back to native americans. if you can't that's fine....however don't cast doubt on those who can.

[@leightonsslimeplace2741]

I belong to the Vancleave Live Oak Choctaw from Vancleave Mississippi. I know I have Choctaw, black, and white. I am so very proud of my ancestors no matter what color they were. They have made me who I am today. A'ho

[@kbull612]

+Elois Hartsell As am I.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

Good for you.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

1956stormy Aho is also an NDN collective greeting.

[@catsdogsbaby8318]

I belong to the mason black freeman simenials my whole family is black of skin

[@catsdogsbaby8318]

We were part of the trail of tears so we ended up In Florida and became indentured and awarded 4 aches in wychula

[@patricklucey8850]

If you have Chockaw within or without.....I am an Irish person, and we will never forget your relief.

[@ava7163]

I love you for it!!! Grandmother born in Mississippi - I believe in my spirit that my Great Great Grandmother was a Choctaw Indian - Ellen Johnson (1840s-1913) but I have no pictures of her but this helps me to at least imagine that one of these ladies may have looked like her. Thomas C-Jackson: El

[@vashtifrancis8580]

Where did you get these photo's? My great grandmother's photo is in the video

[@blackumbrellagangent2926]

The five tribes who enslaved Black people-the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole-became known to whites as the “Five Civilized Tribes.” “These people are trying to assimilate and figure out where they fit into the racial hierarchy of the United States,”

[@jamessanders6788]

Wow

[@kbull612]

There were Black slaves of Choctaw and Cherokee tribal members who were born of European heritage. They not only owned slaves, but sold out their own tribes so that they would be large landowners in Oklahoma(Indian territory). Some in these tribes fought for the Confederacy because they were slave owners. Indians only been in the americas from 12 to 20 thousands years. I have seen that video, but it speak of freedmen. Not all Choctaws or Cherokees went to Oklahoma. I descend from those Choctaws.

[@itsaboutthetruth2010]

I'm a DOCKERY from Mississippi and ik we are Choctaw. .

[@devora4809]

Cool

[@native7689]

It will be likely u r choctaw if u r half ok

[@ms.titianabab7133]

You’re mixed with part Choctaw half breeds.

[@terricooperjohnson2594]

There were some of the Dockery family that moved to N.Y City. Specifically Queens NY.

[@nikimbacollins2163]

My great grandmother on my mother's side was full blooded choctaw. She stayed in a tent even when she move north to Chicago. Long beautiful hair. The resemblance of the beautiful choctaw people remind me of my grandmother and some of my features

[@senghbeh]

One of the greatest lies in history has been told to the so called African American. We have never left turtle island(America) This is heavy material and good very good info, but to each his own.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

If your African American you came from Africa fool.

[@senghbeh]

***** That term has only been around since 1988. Who were my people before 1988 and the 1900's Sherlock, since I'm the fool? I never would say that I'm not from the African diaspora, but lets talk about Africa. What country in Africa recognizes the so called African American as its people historically and is offering them reparations, land and a way back to Africa Genius?

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

+super Ant You have Native ancestry?

[@senghbeh]

***** And I see that you don't like black folks. Your very violent. Typical sheep mentality.

[@senghbeh]

Yes sir. I have indigenous ancestry, but you seem too acidic to build with.

[@poeticmindshifttv7568]

My great grandmother was Indian. God bless her soul sweet Lady...I have family from Pocahontas, Mississippi wish I had more knowledge about where I come from

[@ItzDavughna]

King Kendrick if she was then you are too when are we gonna get it of what they did to us

[@ervinwheaton6953]

My grandma is from Pocahontas also and grandfather is from Madison

[@Hairarchives]

@@ervinwheaton6953I got family that’s from Madison county MS that were Choctaw

[@kijihigh6826]

Here in North Carolina, many many of the dark skinned people have beautiful hair. The hair is not long but it has a silk soft texture. It is not like white people's hair. These black folks hair is beautiful!!! and manageable. I believe they are native, Aboriginal Indians with lovely features. In fact the black folks here in North America are very nice looking people. My eyes are blue and I have dark skin. I have a disease called severe alopecia in my hair so it is hard and difficult to know it's texture. Many of the light skinned people here have terrible alopecia. So there is not much hair in abundance in there parts. But Choctaw and Cherokee definitely runs wild here.

[@kbull612]

Whosoever do mischief against my videos has offended me. If it be their heart that desires this, then evil shall consume their heart. If it be their intent to offend me, then evil shall reward all forevermore that is their intent. For these are the measures that YOU said is due them.

[@larrybyrd1970]

A year ago, I attended the family reunion and I received a binder with 200 years of the family's documented history, WOW11. I believe, that if you can not speak your own tongue, then you have no identity. I would like to encourage people to take a look into you.

[@QeenBee-cb5xs]

My great grandmother had old photos of indigenous people who had similar images like my family. But over the years I tried to find them. A few years ago my cousin told me that the photos were destroyed in a fire. I do however see my mother and grandmother and my children faces in these pictures. Thank you.

[@choctawmaidenflorida2155]

First Choctaw Nation Chief George Hudson is one of my ancestors. From what I know he followed the trail of tears and carried his mother, who died on the way, to Oklahoma. His mother was full blooded Indian and married a white man. My heart hurts for what happened to those who were here when Europeans moved west. It is shameful our world, since ancient times, is and has been so barbaric around this entire globe to all peoples one to another. We are all of God. Love one another . Peace.

[@beam6229]

That dude is white no matter what u say he is European because his father is white

[@beam6229]

No we not you white people are devils

[@TheRealMensChannel]

Interesting video. I'm black, my mother is black. Her mother was 1/2 Chocktaw and black. My grandmothers father was named Lewis Miller and I was told he was full choctaw who did healing work. My grandmother owned land in Arkansas. My fathers father was French and Cherokee. I'm not claiming anything native. I'm black or African American. That professor gates just worships white blood since his father looked very white. In watching his video he was the darkest of all the children which caused his inferiority complex and spawned that silly documentary he did. I believe it was the chocktaw and several other tribes who lost everything because they sided with the south and tried to own slaves. After the war their land was given away. But that was gonna happen anyway with Whites xenophobia back then. Very few native tribes will accept a black into the tribe. The government turned them against us. Look at the Cherokee nation. That woman that ran it won't accept anyone. I think from my dad's side I would qualify? But she ran the blacks out last I heard not that I would want to join. I would look stupid and silly trying to be something I'm not. I respect their heritage and I have my own. Usually racial insecurity in blacks cause us to want to run to another group if we have a little bit of their blood in us.

[@kbull612]

What is misunderstood is I have never indicated I wanted to join or enroll in any tribe. Professor's Gates accusation was that Blacks had no Native American blood because it was no time in history for Blacks and NAs to be in contact with each other except prior to the 1776 Revolutionary war and during the reserving of the 5 civilized tribes. My point has been that in Mississippi, there was over 5,000 tribes that never left there. There are reports taken by WPA workers whereby Whites state that Blacks and Indians cohabitated and those were the only friends one or the other had. Whites wood fool with neither one except late in the night in their slave quarters. There is 1885 news account in Mississippi called, the Carroll county courthouse massacre', that describe the atmosphere between Blacks mixed with Indian blood and Whites. My grandmother told us about the 'place where the people meet', long before I'd ever heard of pow wows and reservations. She nor my other grandparents of NA blood ever wanted or attempted to join the White man's imposed prisons. The only reason some tribal members brag about having a paper trail to a reservation is because they don't understand the ramifications that caused them to be listed on reservations. But, if they find glory in being introduced to their tribal heritages because of that White governments attempt to obliterate from the face of the earth, then good for them. Some Indians were able to survive with some of their culture in tact and live in the White man's world - including that part that involved slavery.What professor Gates has done was not against Native Americans, but against a fallacy created by Whites. I ran into it in other countries as well, such as Japan. It is a simple fact they have passed on in this country for centuries, that is no race would ever sleep with African apes. Look how many racist repeat Professor Gates bull in their arguments. He refers to the historical facts of White slave owners producing children with our Black grandmother as 'master creeping to the slave quarters'. But, call it impossible for the Choctaws that remained in Mississippi and African slaves that was forced to remain in Mississippi to have produced children. He differentiate in slaves belonging to Whites and Native Americans. Maybe he should have taking the time to find out that those Native American slave masters were nearly full blood EUROPEAN! Are those Blacks that are descended from these masters obliged to dismiss any NA heritage they inherited from them? What Gates is spreading are lies. He loves to espouse the bull that Blacks hardly ever test above .9% in Native American DNA results. If a Black family first introduction of an Indian ancestor was in 1865, which is the true separation of Blacks and Native Americans, in 1965 that would be 100 years. If that Indian was 100%, which is very doubtful, that would be about 5 generations for a person born in 1965. in normal inheritance, the person born in 1965 would only be 1/16th to 1/32nd in NA blood quantum on paper. In dna, as it is today, it is likely to have inaccurate correlation between actual blood quantum and dna results when you reach a 1/4 blood quantum. I myself trust photos more than dna because it is proven through photos of old chiefs that at 1/8th blood quantum all features of NA is absent. There are people that have a Native American haplogroup and there is no Native American dna found in their results. Pictures don't lie as Gates do. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apu3dXWOgt97bLM

[@kbull612]

It definitely seems that way. I never seen nothing like him.

[@BIGTASTEMUZIC]

your story sounds simular to mine my grand mother is 1/2 choctaw her father willie wheeler was a healer

[@TheRealMensChannel]

Willie Wheeler. English name like my mothers grandfather had. I heard they tried to become like white folks and act like them as well including owning slaves as to how they lost their land when the war ended.

[@BIGTASTEMUZIC]

awesome might have bro but i know willie wheeler wasnt a slave owner he was a root worker and he married a choctaw woman which was my grandmothers mother. they fed people working for slave owners and provided a place for them to sleep room and board .considering the fact that she was indian she was allotted land to do that . my naaga

[@mountain36wolf]

this is a nice compilation of photos. thank you for showing my 3rd great- grandfather, chief moshulatubbee of the choctaw nation. he's the one holding a pipe in one hand and a feather fan in the other hand.

[@kbull612]

+massage therapist Thanks. He was the first Choctaw image that looked Native American when I found a historical account of the Choctaw chiefs in Mississippi. In our Mississippi history books in school, Greenwood Leflore was our only image of a Choctaw.

[@glennford5346]

thank you for your input on this subject.....a lot of people don't know of the dark skinned Indians from all across this united states. I am a descendent of the Leflore/Chism families so I know , somewhat, the history of the Louisiana Choctaw.

[@dredreson420]

Real Choctaws were black

[@denepride2910]

Enough with the fantasy that's all it is just fantasy guess Blacks are ashamed of their real heritage so they leech themselves on to Native history and history of warriors. Never saw any Blacks fighting back in Battles in America other then being slaves or servants for the white men...plus Blacks were given citizenship in 1868 and Native Americans were given citizenship on their own land in 1924. Blacks should talk about that more Instead of skipping that part of history... Blacks are not Natives.

[@chucky7237]

Say dark, if you have to, because black is african & choctaw and other indigenous tribes were mistaken for africans/moors & had to fight the problem. Indigenous isn't color based like European and African relationships. .. ( color based prejudices exist only because of white people mixing with indigenous culture. Don't perpetuate the problem when indigenous )

[@neshre170]

@@denepride2910 Black people are natives. There are nothing to be ashamed of that's why we are so hated.

[@stormy-le6pb]

Jeree Smith DNA don't lie. People do. Real Choctaws are Mongoloids not Negroids. African american Negro's are Negroids not Mongoloids. African American DNA test proves that every one of you have European DNA, so therefore all of you should be calling yourselves "African European American" or "Black White Americans", or "Negro European Americans" or "Negro White Europeans". only 1 n 20 Negro's have any Native american DNA so the whole lot of you are White people not Native Americans.

[@NaturalSelection1776]

@@stormy-le6pb DNA definitely lies because it's one invented by people who have a agenda at hand and they tell you it's for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES, and cannot be used in a court of law. Second not all American Indians or Aboriginal misclassified as African American don't all have European blood line stop engaging in the white lies meant to separate us one from each other and 2 from the soil which runs through every Aboriginal of this land.

[@CopperAboriginies]

My family is from Alabama,Tennessee North Carolina and Georgia.

[@ronniejohnson317]

My great grandmother was Chocktaw. My great grandfather spoke to her as they were in town at the same time. She smiled at him and her father hit her. Paw Eli apologized and that made it worse. Her father told to leave and Paw Eli brought her home. She never saw her family again but did have two pairs of twins, and three other kids. I have family somewhere and don’t even know where.

[@RebirthwithLaTonia]

Really glad to see this. My people were Choctaw in Port Gibson & Natchez. I'm always looking for more on The Choctaw b/c my father kept up with it but died 7 years ago with lots of information.

[@helenwalker9150]

I have enjoyed reading a lot of your comments I came on hear because I to have great grandparents that are Choctaw and I’m trying to see how to go about finding the ancestry. I lost so many family members between last year and this year it really made me want to go back and see what or who is left out there .

[@hannahleia834]

I am a Indian I am brown.

[@jaqueswilliams5192]

Hannah leia my friend is mixed native but isn’t brown. Quite pale actually

[@cynthiawright9982]

@@jaqueswilliams5192 what's your point

[@ninpobudo3876]

@@jaqueswilliams5192 dumbass

[@lotylelemon8617]

this is where my family's roote are on my mother's side

[@aiynx3674]

#OKLAHOMA

[@gerardford5707]

Aii indigiounous people in America were black. just like Australia. the Dawes rolls only included 5 incorporated tribes.

[@nashvillegrl2384]

honey, i am ohoyo chatah, i even have a CDIB. my people are not "black". we are red.

[@jcbentleyalley154]

gerad Ford yep most of Deez ain't even real indians

[@jcbentleyalley154]

nashvillegrl2384 so called Blacks are red just different shades

[@oneprettycookie7446]

@@nashvillegrl2384 chahta has black to. My dad side from Louisiana.

[@WildMoonChildStyle]

Facts!!!!

[@diamondndaroughTM]

DEUTERONOMY 28 READ IT

[@doloresclairborne8791]

Je ne connaissais pas ces blacks indians merci pour ces belles photos et pour Mr Bojangles que j'ai toujours plaisir à écouter.

[@noingabo]

I keep the Choctaw Native Spirituality!!! NANISHTA!!! WE CAME FROM NANI WAIYAH!!!

[@rancettaali]

Interesting...thank you for incite.

[@kbull612]

Right. Thanks. Going to definitely look that up

[@erickasimonewat]

My Great Grandmother is Victoria Marie Jean Baptiste of Avoyelles Parish! I love this!!

[@asktheanswer424]

*heart chakra awakening*

[@kbull612]

I've been researching mississippi records for nearly 30 years and i have never seen any filipinos. Only chinese.One way to tell if your relatives are mississippi indians is to ask them if they knew the name of a dead relative. If yes, then ask them to name that person. If they refuse, then there is a chance they are Ms indians. Ms indians will not mention the dead unless they 'have to'. Also, an indian will or would've said they were indian, especially to a grandchild. No guessing needed.

[@matthewmann8969]

Affirmative "The Five Civilized Tribes" were tough and rough slavers for the most part

So called Black people are not black anyway there is no such nation be come from tribes in america and every other continent we are thousands of years strong

[@NativeAmerican10]

Chief Joseph we are here people Mississippi band yazoo city

[@kbull612]

Vashti Francis i forgot to answer your question. The photo in the video I got from my grand uncle Sammie a few years before he died in the 80's. Amazingly I have no photo of him. If you need any more info just ask.

[@danahoward3259]

Im the Robinson Williams Butler in jackson Mississippi and Star.. It was 13 of them my gmom the last to go 6yers ago great video

[@Nassah_15]

Beautiful video. I’m subscribing

[@0810louise]

choctaw

[@Dussmasterzero]

The reason why eskimos are whiter than the more southern tribes is just because of the cold and its warmer in the southern areas that's it. It doesn't mean Africans crossed the Atlantic that's dumb. Africans didn't go anywhere but Africa

[@robinwilliamson7942]

"M, I, crooked letter, crooked letter, I, crooked letter, crooked letter, I, hump back, hump back, I." Said by my mother quite often when i was a kid. But ive never heard anyone else say this. My great grandmother was Choctaw, from Mississippi. Maiden name was Nelson. Then Fanny Nelson martied a Smith, white or black unsure. Fanny ended up in Oklahoma, had children by Smith, my Granny was Blanche Smith. Born 1904 in Oklahoma. I was told in Ida, Ok. No birth record.

[@Dwtfuw4life]

My family is from Mississippi on both sides of my mother and my father I was born and raised in Greenville Mississippi

[@e.mtucker6366]

😍 my family is Mississippi Choctaw

[@corythescaryexplorer]

U is black why do y’all black peoples think y’all Indians we got different hair bones everything different then y’all so stop being ignorant

[@kbull612]

Well thanks Vashti Francis. The woman in the hat is also my great grandmother. If you go to my video CHOCTAW INDIAN BLOOD claim vs 23andME DNA TEST, you will find I put many of her children on that one.One of your grandparent may be on that one. You will see in that video which is my grandparent. But I'm not going to take a chance on guessing which one of them is your grandparent. Anyway I don't have photos of all of them but maybe one of them is yours. But if I had to guess I know which 1. Lol

[@prenticeshalamar4706]

Interesting My mothers side of the family descend from mississippi. Little known history Choctaws were sold into slavery by the neighboring Chickasaw to the brits. According to my family history I was able to trace my native ancestry back to slavery. So I believe we were some of the unlucky ones that were captured enslaved and actually classified as "black". It was done by "look" back then and they didn't have a designation for natives at that time you were either white or black.

[@glendadrinkwater1015]

I am Choctaw from oklahoma & Alabama Roots ! i see the same Strong face in my own facial features, my Great Grandma full blood Alabama,My Grandma 1/2 Oklahoma,My Father 1/4 from Okla & I'm 1/8th from U.K. My Mother English.I'm so Proud of My Native American Heritage >>>------------->

[@CopperAboriginies]

We're Amb Indians and their Native Americans big difference.

[@Windycitykiid23]

That's crazy cause my family is from Mississippi and I swear that girl at 3:44 look like she can be my sister.

[@kbull612]

Windycitykiid23 Lol. Well she might be too old to be a sister, but a relative possibly. She was my maternal grandmother.

[@kbull612]

I agree with you. but i also agree with many things - but thanks for keeping it focused.

[@georgeinadriver4191]

Amazing the very first picture that you ban look like my great-grandmother, I seen another picture in here that look like my mother. Where Mississippi in Choctaw and Chickasaw. Thank you for sharing your video💞

[@kbull612]

Georgeina Driver Thank you.

[@Ashamed2BHere]

Yowani Choctaw!!

[@kbull612]

Great grandma's mother was Mary Thornton, her sister, (Mary} Florence married A. B. Mims; and she and her sisters were raised by William and Elizabeth Lockett. The children were very young when Florence died, so I don't know if they were ever aware of their mother Florence. Sometimes thats the way things happen back in those days. All this was from about 1880's to about 1913, so you might have to ask around to see if it helps any.

[@erickasimonewat]

kbull612 do you know the Jean Baptiste family? This is my maternal family

[@CopperAboriginies]

Smiling, Sammy Davis jr.

[@lesliewilliams4915]

My grandmother told me we had a black man in our family before she past away. I was always treated different my whole life. It's what's inside that counts.

[@kbull612]

Now that you know these photos belong to me, the question is, where did Hebrewisrealitememph get the photos of my great grandmother and grandmother for his video?

[@lesliewilliams4915]

Beautiful brothers and sisters

[@fredgardner2870]

love yourself. make peace with your past

[@kbull612]

Choctawmaiden 25 years ago I found a picture of your ancestor in a library book about native americans. About 10 years later i was given a photo of my gr grd mother by my grd uncle.That night when I was putting her photo in my family search records I noticed she looked like your ancestor. I showed him to my mother and she said he looked like her gr mother. I then put the two photos side by side and she smiled and walked away. There is where I left it until I decided to do this video last year.It

[@kbull612]

You are absoulutely correct. But don't omit the fact that 1-The choctaws took up owning slavery in an attempt to remain in Mississippi by giving in to the European culture that was swallowing up their lands and culture. 2- Most of the Choctaw slave owners were mostly White. They reinvented the Indian race in order to remain in control by redefining what an Indian is, "A socialized race, not a race by blood," Under that rule, they & their descendants should be classified as White Europeans! Maybe

[@jacquelineholts4801]

I might....be.....choctaw....this is sooooooo exciting..same features as my mother and her dad's great grandmother....wow lol

[@iamhethatlivethandbreathe7581]

Here because my wife is choctaw

[@tracymatarazzo9881]

Stories show Cuba and florida once attached and to south america, also said is the huge land mass in Atlantic that attached us to Egypt and africa w/ floods that took it away, That some ppl came from the north and why those tribes resemble Asians & the US easterners resembled latin-african-asian mixed looks, They found tobacco in the tomb of Egyptian king, the bow & arrow are world known. Much indicates trade and travel. The Choctaw were heavy corn farmers & largest tribe in all the Americas

[@chuckwilliams7718]

My GG Grandfather was Greenwood Leflore. He signed the treaty at Dancing Rabbit creek. He signed the treaty, not because he thought it was a good idea, but the President told him that if he didn't sign, the "Indians" will be unilaterally moved without any written promises. I looked up the census about 1910-ish and noticed my G-Grandfather who was noticeably a very dark complected man and obviously native, marked a 'white' family on his census with his wife and my Grandmother as the child...

[@tracymatarazzo9881]

The way I have see it via growing on Miccosukee who require 50% blood for government hand outs instead not wishing to share cannot ever grow their tribes, How I really see is this; those who wish to be in a tribe and be part of the certain tribe with the ways, cultures and languanges should be accepted as such.

[@bjperry3709]

My dad was born in Mississippi in 1933. His mother was Choctaw and his dad was Black. He said my grandmother was a great woman of faith and they branded her cheek with the letter 'R' for Reynolds plantation. I'm having trouble finding out more about her on Ancestory website. They didn't keep record back in her days per my dad.

[@imfromthemagnoliastatemiss2244]

I'm full blood Indian born and raised mississippi indians are not ack

[@KalanyMightBeADawg123]

My great grandfather and great aunts/uncles are on the Dawes Roll and they were dark like me. My grandmother is a fullblooded Choctaw.

[@georgeinadriver4191]

check on family search.org, I was able to go back as far 1850. you can even find proof of birth, death, marriage and sibing. and a bit more. they keep the census. some of my records came from the National Archives and Records Admin. I was able to go back five generation on my mothers side, however I was only able to go back two on my mothers father side. Happy searching

[@ItzDavughna]

Black isn’t a race

[@iamalemon1808]

Bouvier really? There are Choctaws that’s are light

[@kbull612]

I appreciate that and agree with you.

[@kbull612]

jdrobnson for beginners is family. The older the better. But ask one question at a time when talking to older relatives. Only ask a new question after they have finished talking.Get names: gparents, uncles,aunts, cousins. Places they lived and born. Age or birth years. Age at death or year. Knowing nicknames is a must.List stories told by the indian side of the family.esp concerning snake and human. TRUST UR FAMILY IF THEY SAY THE INDIAN IN THE FAMILY SAID IT WAS SO. Pics will inspire ur search

[@isrealraw4486]

I come from the Portee family who is also Choctaw. Our roots are Florida, Mississippi & Carolina

[@karlcarlysle462]

Choctaw/ Cherokee/ Blackfoot/ Lakota-Sioux

[@ladyamazon4475dj]

My grandmother just told me we were Choctaw from Mississippi how do I find out and where do I begin to look

[@yungpoloo1974]

My grandmother from meridian Mississippi but she never told me what tribe she was from

[@kbull612]

No I can't recall of hearing of him. My great grandmother was Alice Walker. She had 3 sisters Florence, Ada, and Francis. Florence married AB Mims, but dont know who Francis married. They were the only 2 that I was told stayed out your way. Ada lived in Meridian until she move to Minnesota. But the 4 of them was raised by an uncle because their parents had died. I heard them speak of a male relative living out there who had owned the old house they was raised in but didn't mention his name.

[@katherinenessmith4625]

I can't find out my 3 x Great Grandpa John Page's real name, he was born in Mississippi in 1822 but they sent him to a Choctaw school in Kentucky and gave him the "white" name, never keeping records of his real name. I am so disgusted. I have my CDIB card but I can't go back any further to look for my ancestors. I really like your post, we are all related that are Choctaw. Bless You:)

[@kbull612]

Katherine Nessmith thanks. I see why you're having trouble. You will find some information about your great grandfather at ancestry.com. It seems John Page went from school and went to Indian Territory there after. It says he was teaching there when he was around 21 years old, which would be around 1843. What I found is he lived 1822-1876. He lived in the Mosholatubbe district and died suddenly at a Mr. Morris Adams' home. He was a preacher, a translator, a Choctaw delegate for 1866 treaty, and a Major for the Confederates during the civil war. He came home to find his farm had been destroyed. He had a granddaughter named Nell Page. Unfortunately, I don't think your great grandfather would have needed to fill out an enrollment application, because he seemed to have left Mississippi with the Choctaws. There is a monument erected for him located in Pocola, LeFlore, OK. He was wealthy and owned 5 slaves. End of the war he was near destitute. The worse part to hinder your search for family is the monument erected for him states that he was an orphan and people paid for his being sent to school.This is his photo:

[@katherinenessmith4625]

Thank you so much, this info is all I have been able to get myself, I just haven't been able find out his real name before he went to the school. I don't know if he truly was an orphan (I don't trust someone who would change his name) until I find out who his parents were. Thank you for telling me about the statue, I didn't know about that one. My sister and I are going to take him and my Grandmother x 3 flowers at the cemetery and a couple of beaded items I made.. You are a wonderful person:) Have a Beautiful Day:) Kathy

[@araya1]

lol, at you two having this full on conversation about having long lost great grandmother who moved to Ohio. I just came on here to see what the choctaw natives looked like. My step dad is from northwest Mississippi and his mom was half choctaw.

[@ricardowatson8504]

Were they the Quinn's?

[@karenmeggs]

In Mississippi if you were a slave, you're record would say: your name and that you were a property of Miss.

[@xrigtrk]

My dads mother side is Choctaw,so we are Choctaw,black and white.my mom side is from Tennessee and Mississippi,I'm a Tennessee/Mississippi American.

[@blackmist2015]

Hey Im 1/2 Native American Choctaw Mississippi. I also have many Traits of A Native American Such as Long Hair darkish skin but my cheekbones are extremely high. Most of the things said in this video are true.

[@kbull612]

was then I learned chief george was a choctaw.Then this last week I learned of him carrying his mother after her death. What's more amazing is he and my gr grd mother were born in the same mayhew area in 1883. I had no knowledge that there had been a choctaw mississon in mayhew until I read about your ancestor last week. In my video 'Reflections of my Native American Ancestors' I had already put them side by side again. We sure are quite barbaric toward one another in such a small world.

[@kbull612]

tr jones. My paternal grandmother was from Montgomery county, Ms near Duck Hill and Elliot Station area. my maternal grandmother and her mother was from near Oktibbeha, Ms near Mayhew. Both places were in the area where White religious people initiated building Choctaw Indian schools to teach them how to live in the White man's world. Just before they started making treaties in order to take their lands.

[@kbull612]

THANK YOU.

[@kbull612]

Indiablack6 thank u. U win. Since there were so many other races biding for the affections of the indians in south carolina, i guess there were no opportunity for blacks and indians to mix there. Glad to see the white man's attempt at limiting african american and native americans to their definitions of who and what our ancestors worth should be is still working. The white man's experts were right, we africans are too ignorant to understand being descendant from more than one race of people.lol

[@ELdaScorpioMoor]

NAAA AINT NOBODY PLAYING

[@kbull612]

i understand the concept you are thinking and you're correct. Yes some choctaws lived on white plantations, but they weren't taken in unless full time cooks. The choctaws kept to themselves, but hired themselves out to white farmers on seasonal occassions. In other words they weren't housed and fed like the slaves. They were more like migrants workers in their own land if you can believe that.This was during slavery 1830-1865 and afterward1865-1914. They faired worst than slaves in some ways.

[@gmagic57]

My father's grandmother was half Souix Indian in Toledo Ohio, That makes me 1/16th, he and myself are darkskinned african-americans, his mother's maiden name was shoecraft from Fort Wayne Indiana, Real Simple.

[@Lanie-sl9ne]

My family is from Coffeyville Mississippi and they tell me where Choctaw. The 1st person's picture even though it's male resembles my grandmother a whole lot. Her name was a Estella Kelley our dad was Ed Kelley.

[@nthnpark0]

Also,the Ancestrybydna tests came with these things called "confidence intervals" (the later tests don't have these) which are like "ranges"

[@walterc.charlescampbelllll8485]

we are one native