What If Poland Became A Super Power? | Alternate History [OLD]

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Monsieur Z

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@DJJablonsky
@DJJablonsky 6 жыл бұрын
Ah the polish-lithuanian-russian-swedish-norwegian-turkish-greek-prussian-finnish commonwealth
@MaleCowsMilk
@MaleCowsMilk 6 жыл бұрын
Iowa Android I would like to hear its national anthem
@myohmy9000
@myohmy9000 6 жыл бұрын
Who wouldn't want to live in P.L.R.S.N.T.G.P.F.
@g0d3mp3r0r
@g0d3mp3r0r 6 жыл бұрын
A.K.A the biggest blob
@magentamappinganimation9532
@magentamappinganimation9532 5 жыл бұрын
+a couple of freezing Asians
@ezon02-j77
@ezon02-j77 4 жыл бұрын
The Plrsntgpf commonwealth
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 6 жыл бұрын
All the way down to Korea? Damn. Would have been amazing to expand East, attacking isolationist Japan. Winged Hussars vs royal Samurai? Come on, that would've been amazing :D
@_Killkor
@_Killkor 6 жыл бұрын
At it's maximum land size, Poland would look like a giant lobster monstrosity, ready to consume the entire western Europe XD @ 3:30
@_Killkor
@_Killkor 6 жыл бұрын
nom nom nom, kurwa XD
@KarasekUS
@KarasekUS 6 жыл бұрын
That would have been no conquest. Hussars for sure.
@megaponful
@megaponful 6 жыл бұрын
Poland would be the Russia of it's age.
@_Killkor
@_Killkor 6 жыл бұрын
megaponful _Law of the Universe #4146:_ There will always be at least one (1) Slavic nation, which owns the greatest territory out of all the other nations. No exceptions. _Law of the Universe #4147:_ Don't question the rule #4146. Just accept it.
@Dziki_z_Lasu
@Dziki_z_Lasu 6 жыл бұрын
Stalin once said that establishing communism in Poland is like saddling a pig, so this part is wrong. Poland since the midle adges had nobles democracy system. In the late XVIII-th century Poland became modern democratic constutional monarchy - the main reason that all three neighbouring powers, stuck in medieval feudal system, combined forces, also with Targowica anti reformatist Polish movement and Poland disapeard from a map, until...Napoleonic wars. Most probably France and Napoleon would became alies with Poles like in proper timeline, and together fight with Brits. BTW. Russians would fight back Poles even with orthodox consent, to this day you can read in old orthodox churches there "God save us from a fire diseases, floods...and Poles", so apearently we ware not nice at all, so this timeline is not so likely ;)
@ГригорийГ-ч4н
@ГригорийГ-ч4н 5 жыл бұрын
...became modern democratic constutional monarchy - the main reason that all three neighbouring powers, stuck in medieval feudal system... ---- Two words. Liberum veto.
@matthewd.d238
@matthewd.d238 4 жыл бұрын
I mean the first time they tried establishing communism in Poland. It didn’t end too greatly for them.
@Dziki_z_Lasu
@Dziki_z_Lasu 4 жыл бұрын
@@ГригорийГ-ч4н One word: majority Check yourself
@Wendeta-hq2cp
@Wendeta-hq2cp Жыл бұрын
Communism was unpopular in Poland thanks to its association with the Soviet Union, which was the successor to Russia, which Poland hated. Poland will become communist without Russia. Also the reason Poland helped Napoleon was because it wanted to be free from Russia. A free Poland would not help France, especially not an expansionist France. and it sure as hell won't agree to the continental system, since there's nothing liberal minded about that. That's the reason Napoleon lost in the end, after all.
@benhooper4080
@benhooper4080 6 жыл бұрын
Every time Mister Z makes a new video, a new universe is created based on the video. Therefore, Mister Z is a universe creator.
@kentuckyfryedstalin
@kentuckyfryedstalin 6 жыл бұрын
Fascist America he also creates parallel universe in doing so. He is a universal parallel universe maker.
@fowlae4414
@fowlae4414 6 жыл бұрын
*ADAM AND EVE*
@fowlae4414
@fowlae4414 6 жыл бұрын
I mean those universes still exist but no one cares about them
@Jkatharsis
@Jkatharsis 6 жыл бұрын
Polish would never chose freedomly a communism.
@childrenofthesun471
@childrenofthesun471 5 жыл бұрын
@@seasalt489 no they wouldn't.
@ja_m7488
@ja_m7488 5 жыл бұрын
Sea Salt no they wouldn’t
@LuckyClovers72
@LuckyClovers72 5 жыл бұрын
Polish are so anti communist you can’t even deny it
@안호성-p6z
@안호성-p6z 5 жыл бұрын
They won't choose communism in our timeline for sure, but even in all the other timelines where Russia never rules poland nor become communism (and forecibly enforced communism to Poland) as well? Not quite i say
@RoderickVI
@RoderickVI 5 жыл бұрын
There is only 3 countries on Earth that would never choose Communism voluntarily: Poland, Switzerland and Iran. And I'm quite sure this channel has made 2 our of those 3 voluntarily communist before. Utterly unrealistic.
@theonefromenceladus
@theonefromenceladus 6 жыл бұрын
What if China was split in a similar manner to North and South Korea, with a Communist North mainland and the Republic of China in the south mainland? Not sure how logical it is, but I thought the scenario would be interesting.
@theonefromenceladus
@theonefromenceladus 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Doge Ooooh! Good point.
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Wait...I think I already did this in the What If China Became Nationalist video. Will need to check!
@theonefromenceladus
@theonefromenceladus 6 жыл бұрын
Monsieur Z Ah! I believe you did. My bad, thanks for letting me know.
@edmonton20084
@edmonton20084 6 жыл бұрын
Well that's essentially what happened if you consider how the Republic of China ended up on the island of Taiwan.
@ILove2EatUranium
@ILove2EatUranium 4 жыл бұрын
It did. In fact it never unified.
@noviammapping8226
@noviammapping8226 6 жыл бұрын
POLAND CAN FINALLY INTO SPACE!!!!
@johnniebee4328
@johnniebee4328 6 жыл бұрын
never!!!
@karozielo2945
@karozielo2945 6 жыл бұрын
In 1978 Mirosław Hermaszewski first Polish man in space congratlations you lose life ;)
@gryffith1378
@gryffith1378 6 жыл бұрын
Civ?
@0plp0
@0plp0 6 жыл бұрын
The first in space and on the Moon was Twardowski xD.
@ほだ冕匙ぇ
@ほだ冕匙ぇ 6 жыл бұрын
polen can into superpower but no can into space :(((
@holdenon437
@holdenon437 6 жыл бұрын
#BasedPoland #PolandStronk
@theindianconservative8746
@theindianconservative8746 6 жыл бұрын
I hope poland does become a superpower Poland must save europa
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 3 жыл бұрын
They did it before, they might do it again.
@neond6740
@neond6740 6 жыл бұрын
You have been a part of the spark that generated my love of alternate history. Thank you.
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Aww, that means a lot, pally. :)
@neond6740
@neond6740 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm trying to become an alternate history writer myself, and I often listen to your videos to jog my mind when I want to create a scenario.
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Well, let me know if you ever need a hand. :)
@neond6740
@neond6740 6 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what would happen if Austria-Hungary was recreated, and they fought in World War 2 under the leadership of the Habsburgs.
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept. That's a tough case, as Austria and Hungary wouldn't be exactly what they used to be, and it may be difficult to get the people excited for the Habsburgs in an era dominated by Fascist and Communist ideologies, that'd be the only forms I could see it happening, and it would likely end up a German puppet if it survives Anschluss.
@spicelord6616
@spicelord6616 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept, i always like to see that you have new alternate scenarios, keep it up!
@alexalexandrov7767
@alexalexandrov7767 6 жыл бұрын
The polish lived in a democracy therefore there version of communism would be a democracy maybe like rosa Luxembourg described. Russia communism was only violent and authoritarian because that’s what Russia’s people knew
@mypointofview1111
@mypointofview1111 6 жыл бұрын
There is a saying that the further east one travels the less civilised the people are
@greatestfoolever2744
@greatestfoolever2744 6 жыл бұрын
What if the lack of a protestant reformation lead to a larger united front against the ottomans in 1683?
@MaxTheCat-eh5ts
@MaxTheCat-eh5ts 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is a gold mine and every new video is one ton of gold
@sashacook9078
@sashacook9078 6 жыл бұрын
This was amazing! You should write more on this alternate history
@noaha.b.8197
@noaha.b.8197 6 жыл бұрын
Can Poland now into SPACE???
@noaha.b.8197
@noaha.b.8197 6 жыл бұрын
I just realised how many people already commented that... POLAND CAN INTO SPACE!!!
@karozielo2945
@karozielo2945 6 жыл бұрын
Yup in 1978 Mirosław Hermaszewski first polish men in space
@VforArt
@VforArt 6 жыл бұрын
yes it can, info confirmed by photo: vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/polandball/images/5/50/Wiki-background/revision/latest?cb=20170417203051
@antonkwanton5620
@antonkwanton5620 6 жыл бұрын
No, we Poles will never into space.
@twistedrudolf
@twistedrudolf 6 жыл бұрын
Who cares. Space is stupid.
@eoinnofallamhain8936
@eoinnofallamhain8936 6 жыл бұрын
I know I posted this before but not sure if you seen it. What if the Ottomans won the italo-ottoman war over Libya and the balkan wars?
@jamsky1558
@jamsky1558 3 жыл бұрын
Any reason why this movie can't be viewed in Poland? Why is it limited here?
@thomasczerniakiewicz
@thomasczerniakiewicz 6 жыл бұрын
great video. i hardly ever see stuff about poland and cause I'm polish I'm happy you did a video about it
@nathanpellerito7013
@nathanpellerito7013 6 жыл бұрын
In that universe, I foresee a "re-establishment of empire" video for Poland: 1. Establish economic ties with Western Europe, and prepare the economy for war 2. Invade neighboring states, slowly moving southwards 3. Start pushing for a European Union 4. End up in conflict with Russia and win 5. Create a European Union, with Warsaw as the judicial capital (most realistic outcome) 6. Start pressuring Arabian countries to join, by giving Muslims plenty of rights and shit 7. Rinse and repeat until Europe, most of Asia, and Africa are under Eastern Union control 8. Invade the rest of Asia 9. Draw closer to America 10. Annex everything, first with USA and spreading across the continents 11. Into space (ik this is shit)
@historyrhymes1701
@historyrhymes1701 6 жыл бұрын
What if thе bulgarians captured konstantinopol in 1913 or 922
@historyrhymes1701
@historyrhymes1701 6 жыл бұрын
HI :)
@historyrhymes1701
@historyrhymes1701 6 жыл бұрын
And we could havе taken it if probably Romania joinеd thе balkan war
@thequantitychannel1299
@thequantitychannel1299 6 жыл бұрын
Constantinopol***
@thequantitychannel1299
@thequantitychannel1299 6 жыл бұрын
Also I major what if could be if Bulgaria allied with the Arabs in 718 and took Constantinople.I think that might have made a major shift in power not only on the Balkans but Anatolia too.Furthermore , I think if this were true that Islam would have much more problems spreading into Eastern Europe
@hyperbolic4606
@hyperbolic4606 6 жыл бұрын
Bulgarian empire mapping lol
@malaysianmapping9767
@malaysianmapping9767 4 жыл бұрын
Germany, Austria and Russia: *confused screaming*
@cmplex_m
@cmplex_m 6 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the flags? I would like to have them.
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
I make them, welcome to my website; thezetaworkstudio.wixsite.com/monsieurz/concept-art
@cmplex_m
@cmplex_m 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very nice!
@ficmon7225
@ficmon7225 6 жыл бұрын
poland stronk
@krzysztofrypa8685
@krzysztofrypa8685 6 жыл бұрын
4:14 "i cały misterny plan w pizdu"
@naukanaukowo9671
@naukanaukowo9671 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@jamesmurphy2828
@jamesmurphy2828 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea video
@uhuhuhuhuhuh3537
@uhuhuhuhuhuh3537 6 жыл бұрын
Has he done a Charlemagne-Irene of Athens marriage video yet?
@thetigerking2613
@thetigerking2613 6 жыл бұрын
So Poland in this timeline is Russia.
@beliarek4595
@beliarek4595 6 жыл бұрын
Anti Imperalist yes, but catholic modern some like western europe
@hanz2904
@hanz2904 5 жыл бұрын
@Sarmatan Lehitus TBH I don't think they would invade Russia in this scenario and let Russia be a gloomy country in the east borders wouldn't have changed much however Poland would try to keep Russia alive since it cannot handle such a big nation on itself Prussia would never rise in the east only in the west do yeah
@holydoggo4822
@holydoggo4822 6 жыл бұрын
There is this minor whit noise static in your mic, besides that, great video!
@ymj4256
@ymj4256 3 жыл бұрын
Why would the central Asian border be the same
@mercurius7022
@mercurius7022 6 жыл бұрын
TAK
@endurovro
@endurovro 6 жыл бұрын
Taip
@kamoinar1905
@kamoinar1905 6 жыл бұрын
Pency McMuffin it means yes in polish
@charlesdawson2928
@charlesdawson2928 5 жыл бұрын
(5:12) What ideology?
@emilygerstung8733
@emilygerstung8733 6 жыл бұрын
Poland can into space!
@Perririri
@Perririri 2 жыл бұрын
Normie
@wingedhussar8492
@wingedhussar8492 6 жыл бұрын
This alternative history of Poland is very well thought out and absolutely possible if the cards were dealt that way to Poland, but they weren't. And they didn't align in Poland's hands that way for one absolute reason, namely the nation of Poland, the Polish people, are ruled by the Father of Jesus, God, and God seeks to hone the Poles into a people exuding the Christian way of life through truth, honor, and righteous. Without the struggles, the suffering, and all the other highs and lows the Poles have gone through, you would not have the heart & soul of a Pole right now. All I can say is go to Poland and meet the everyday ppl. You will be taken aback by the kindness, politeness, and general good nature of the common Pole. This honor to be a Polak and exude these traits of honor and Christian love is passed on from generation to generation with each generation understanding the Will of God and His Love presented to man by Jesus Christ. Yes, negative traits in individuals exists. I'm not saying every single Pole is a saint. Poland has its share of thieves and murderers, but it's a much smaller demographic compared to the rest of the world. It can be compared to Japan and other oriental cultures in which honor amongst the family is above all. You shame the entire family when you do something immoral. So, God will continue to mold His followers into the kind of men Jesus would be proud of. The history of Poland made these people and it will be very interesting how they have come to the world stage with their unique honor and see how they grow in the world with Jesus as King of Poland.
@g0d3mp3r0r
@g0d3mp3r0r 6 жыл бұрын
If Poland and it's people are so good then why is it that where I live almost everyones Polish? and they're always so rude? Just because your Polish and nice doesn't mean all if you are
@zpetar
@zpetar 6 жыл бұрын
Poland is great country with great history and great people. But they always had one huge problem trough their whole history The are sandwiched between 2 other great nations. Germans and Russians.
@carlosclinche492
@carlosclinche492 6 жыл бұрын
Mister Zed great content but I am wondering could you do a video about Fillers 1919 plan to make a break throught on the Western Front if Germany decided to cling on even thought they were exhausted.
@ggkproductions1632
@ggkproductions1632 6 жыл бұрын
What If The Sino-Soviet Split Led To A Sino-Soviet War?
@somerando3718
@somerando3718 6 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly do any videos about South America like if gran Colombia did not fall apart for example
@Goonwithatireiron823
@Goonwithatireiron823 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Z, you should do an alternate future mapping video.
@limboonsiew5552
@limboonsiew5552 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mister Zed, just an idea for a what if. So what if the Malacca Empire (which was an empire that united all of Peninsular Malaysia and Singapore) capital didn't fall when the Portuguese attack?
@bugbuster8598
@bugbuster8598 6 жыл бұрын
Whats that music in the background?
@gigi-bl5yu
@gigi-bl5yu 6 жыл бұрын
What is the song during the part of communist poland pls Somebody tell me!
@trollthem7725
@trollthem7725 5 жыл бұрын
why this vid is blocked in Poland?
@danukil7703
@danukil7703 6 жыл бұрын
0:32 Uhh, not quite. The Polish authorities pressured Orthodox Ruthenians (Ukrainians) to convert to Catholicism (that pressure is what led to the foundation of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, as a compromise for Orthodox who wanted to keep their traditions). This in no way makes them unique or worse than other powers though. The Russians pressured many Ukrainian Greek Catholics to convert back to Orthodoxy, and even in America there was in the past significant anti-Catholic sentiment.
@milobem4458
@milobem4458 4 жыл бұрын
Most Polish kings before the Vasas were tolerant of all beliefs. There were Jewish and even Muslim communities with full religious autonomy. Jagiellons themselves had Orthodox relatives throughout Lithuania and Ruthenia, and people intermarried often. Even after the Reformation, when the western Europe was overrun by religious wars, Polish protestants practiced openly. The Brest Union happened because the Orthodox bishops wanted the same political priviledges as their Catholic peers, namely seats in the senate, and Zigismund Vasa, being a fanatic was happy to offer them a deal - enter a union with Rome and you have it. There wasn't really any Polish authority to pressure anyone, because at this point the Commonwealth was already an anarchy, albeit still somewhat functional. Each noble ran his own estate as he pleased, and I'm sure some of them were pressuring their subjects, but that was not a rule of law. Building and maintaining churches was an expensive practice, so the most common mean of pressuring the populous was simply the nobles funding the churches they preferred.
@szymonpiechowski7073
@szymonpiechowski7073 6 жыл бұрын
Songs used please?
@jamesgeorge7579
@jamesgeorge7579 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like every one of your scenarios ends up with one country absolutely dominating the whole world with ease.
@alexanderazzopardi5681
@alexanderazzopardi5681 6 жыл бұрын
Polski can into space
@degenerate3288
@degenerate3288 6 жыл бұрын
Alexander Azzopardi Yes Yes it can
@darth1nsidious726
@darth1nsidious726 6 жыл бұрын
What if the Burr Conspiracy (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_conspiracy) happened
@mrchoo3456
@mrchoo3456 6 жыл бұрын
Poland is In a quite peculiar situation,it’s history is way more interesting then most people give credit
@samuelyawful
@samuelyawful 6 жыл бұрын
The Winged Hussars are here!!!
@hussar1512
@hussar1512 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@aryansingh2459
@aryansingh2459 6 жыл бұрын
3:24 Now that is the coolest Hussar EVER
@notabene9013
@notabene9013 6 жыл бұрын
Poland has already reached space: Mirosław Hermaszewski.
@Perririri
@Perririri 2 жыл бұрын
Normie
@furrybacon1512
@furrybacon1512 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Z, where did you get that awesome Poland flag? Can I had it?
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's on my website, follow the link in the description and go to Concept Art.
@maximilianoramos4366
@maximilianoramos4366 6 жыл бұрын
Your right, Monsieur z. I did think of WW2 when you mentioned Poland in the video. Anyway it’s snowing outside, goodbye!
@jjuu3286
@jjuu3286 6 жыл бұрын
NICE !!
@zaqwerty22
@zaqwerty22 6 жыл бұрын
I cant agree with few ideas. For Poland would be bether attack Germany not Ottoman Empire. After conquer them Poland would make them a puppet states with would be a barier between Poland and France. Napoleon wouldnt standard a chance against Poland and UK together. Being a main Empire on Europ would give Poland economic dominance. Fast economic growth connected with minerałami from Russia and food from Ukraine would give Poland to big adwantage against of aby other country.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 6 жыл бұрын
Communism would have never came up in poland come on tht was stupid
@titothesecond2001
@titothesecond2001 6 жыл бұрын
Polan can into spac!!!!!!
@kamoinar1905
@kamoinar1905 6 жыл бұрын
XxTheVelikiBosnaXx lota space
@endurovro
@endurovro 6 жыл бұрын
XxTheVelikiBosnaXx Don’t forget Lithuania, It was one of their kings that created the commonwealth in the first place (Jogaila or what the Poles would call him, Jagiello).
@abyssstrider2547
@abyssstrider2547 6 жыл бұрын
XxTheVelikiBosnaXx Ayyy fellow Bosnian!
@karozielo2945
@karozielo2945 6 жыл бұрын
Poland was in space in 1978 ;)
@hardstylebastar
@hardstylebastar 6 жыл бұрын
Ploand invented space in 1582 Mikołaj Kopernik (Copernicus) .Heliocentricism
@sunzi7466
@sunzi7466 6 жыл бұрын
interesting! greets!
@maciek_k.cichon
@maciek_k.cichon 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, Poland as forerunner of communism and the world without USA thanks to it, as the map showed? You've made my day!
@josepedrodasilva4651
@josepedrodasilva4651 6 жыл бұрын
Can into space!
@LiezAllLiez
@LiezAllLiez 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing that bothers me about this vid (apart from the suggestion that the Commonwealth would use communism to unite or rule anything that is..) is... you called Poland a young nation. A young nation? Formed in 966 and STILL young?! Christ! How old do you have to be to stop being called young? lol
@the_astrokhan
@the_astrokhan 6 жыл бұрын
Poland's downfall was lack of centralization which made the kings impotent, unable to effect reforms and ultimately unable to control the magnates who effectively ruled as per their own motivations. What it boiled down to was that the royal coffers were almost perpetually empty and thus the kings could very rarely conduct any measure of reforms, let alone meaningful ones. With the addition of Muscovy, already being a far more centralized state and Sweden, a state where the king was truly the head of state, into the commonwealth, one could assume that the position of the king would be strengthened enough to force through political and economic reforms. With the Polish-Lithuanian-Muscovite-Sweedish Commonwealth fully controlling the Baltic grain trade, it would multiply the new commonwealth's economic prospects exponentially. Leading to an ecomomic and demographic boom. The PLC already had a very large population by the standards of the 17th century. With the application of the same benefits to the Muscovite lands, one could argue for a population growth similar with that experienced in the fringes of the PLC in the early 17th century, in other words, a population boom. The only thing keeping the area from truly becoming a center of growth was the geopolitical interactions between the PLC, Muscovy and the Tatars which essentially forbade any stability. Now, with a common front presented against the Ottomans and their proxy state, the Crimean Khaganate, the area would see far more prosperity. Not only that, but finally, an effective strategy could be undertaken to check if not undo the threat of the Tatars seeing as both the PLC and Muscovites no longer have to worry about the other and so they could combine their efforts. Not only that, but the PLC alone fielded 60,000 at Chotyn in 1621 against the Ottomans. And they won. With the addition of the Muscovites, one could envision a possible army of 100,000 if not more. That is, by all accounts a check against Ottoman power. Furthermore, the Russian empire effectively started westernizing in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. In this scenario, that modernization occurs in the very early 17th century. Also, in the 17th century, the PLC, Sweden and Muscovy (Russia) spent vast resources fighting eachother, preventing their own development and pillaged each other mercilessly. To give a better perspective to the matter, Poland's population would not recover from to pre-Deluge levels until the 1770's and one only has to visit museums in Stockholm to see how much they plundered the PLC. Unification would create the inverse effect. So let me recap. by September 11, 1683 (siege of Vienna) we have a Commonwealth that, although still politically not as centralized as Louis XVI's France, still has has the ability to effect Political and Economic reforms. It would have a population of over 30 million, matching that of the Ottoman Empire and eclipsing that of any other European state. It controls the flow of food in Europe (the baltic grain trade) and has a military that can go toe to toe with that of the Ottoman Empire ( PLC could field up to 88K men in 1688, Russia over 100K, Sweden a further 30K). That is all up to 1683. Keep in mind that Prussia came about as a direct consequence of the deluge. That would not happen so the Prussian lands would come under sway of the commonwealth. That is again, millions of citizens and wealth. The policy of religious tolerance would have a twofold effect. Internally, it would allow ideas to spread and a far more liberal Russia than historically represented, potentially curbing some of the crippling insurrections that it suffered in the 17th and 18th centuries as it would grant people more freedoms and greater happiness. Which in turn would see a boom in it's population and economy, allowing for faster and earlier colonization of Siberia. On Sweden's side though, it would probably prevent it from entering the fray in the 30 years war. Significantly curbing Sweden's prestige and territorial gains. As well as not allowing for French subsidies. That would probably cause the Catholics in the HRE to have the upper hand in that conflict, strengthening the imperial crown. In such a scenario, it is conceivable that France would actually have to get in on the fighting for real this time and that could be a nasty protracted war. The Commonwealth, as it did in reality, would sit it out, religious neutrality demands it. It would happily send mercs though. Lots of mercs. With Western Europe in dissaray, it would stand to reason that the Ottomans would see that as an opportunity to strike at the HRE. Again, the PLC would have no choice but to intervene. Not only it's only real rival is seeking to expand it's power, but also religious neutrality has it's limits. In this case, Islam is not part of that agreement. There would be mobilization. The Ottomans could not win against 60K at Vienna, Mohacs and Zanta. They would fare no better against more. The Ottomans would be pushed back earlier and harder. They would be hard pressed not only in central Europe but also on the steppe. That amount of pressure could lead to internal pressure, rebellions and further accelerating the decline of the empire. The benefactors of this would be the Commonwealth and Hapsburg. Who would claim Hungary at that point is hard to tell. The Austrians would obviously do as they did historically and do their best to repeat it. The Commonwealth on the other hand, would have far more of a stake in establishing dominion over Hungary. Not only because of historical ties but also because it would have the means to do so this time around. In this regard, it is not impossible to see a Commonwealth incorporating the reunified kingdom of Hungary. In any case, with the lack of any other rivals in the vicinity, the Holy Roman Empire would be stuck between France and the Commonwealth, which by this time could very well be a behemoth in terms of population and wealth. As is often the case of a nation stuck in between rivals (as happened to the historical Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) it would see itself squeezed in a vice, fighting wars against France and the Commonwealth often times at the same time. Fighting against wealthier, bigger and stronger opponents on multiple fronts can only have one outcome. Eventually, the borders of France would reach deep into the Reich as would these of the Commonwealth, desiring to incorporate Bohemia, Bavaria and Saxony for their wealth. Going any further than that would be far too speculative. Would there even be a French revolution? What would the war for Spanish succession look like? With Germany missing as a catalyst for world wars, would the US rise to dominate the world? Would there even be a need for a Karl Marx? What would Europe look like with two dominant forces controlling the continent? Would we see a form of a cold war? How would England interact with the mainland, seeing as it's ruling monarchy has been pretty much German since the 18th century. With France arguably far stronger in this timeline, would the French have intervened to help the Jacobites? Would then the Commonwealth side with the British Empire? How would the Italian peninsula look like? They were always spared intervention because of power dynamics but would it apply now? Would Poland into space? And they say hindsight is 20/20. Looks pretty murky to me.
@thomaswatson1739
@thomaswatson1739 6 жыл бұрын
Please do video if Huey Long and Governor Eugene Talmadge of Georgia teamed up to run for president
@icyguy2547
@icyguy2547 6 жыл бұрын
What if George McGovern became president?
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Not too familiar with McGovern, what's so special about him?
@icyguy2547
@icyguy2547 6 жыл бұрын
He was against the conflict in Good Ol Nam, and was the stereotypical modern american liberalist (the state should benefit the people). He summed himself up by saying: "I seek the presidency because I believe deeply in the American promise and can no longer accept the diminishing of that promise. ... I make one pledge above all others-to seek and speak the truth with all the resources of mind and spirit I command. ... I seek to call America home to those principles that gave us birth."
@BlueBird-wb6kb
@BlueBird-wb6kb 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice map to me
@holdenon437
@holdenon437 6 жыл бұрын
A nice map is a sexy map.
@emineico6258
@emineico6258 6 жыл бұрын
What if oliver cromwell's commenwealth of england survived, or his son was competent?
@alexalexandrov7767
@alexalexandrov7767 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do some videos on anarcho communism or anarcho syndicalism
@richardharris3423
@richardharris3423 6 жыл бұрын
A Polish Russian already went to space....before many other astronauts did. And it was a Polish engineer Mr. Bakker who built the Moon Rover.
@myohmy9000
@myohmy9000 6 жыл бұрын
What if the Yinon Plan was put into place?
@omega9216
@omega9216 6 жыл бұрын
there is a problem here Poles ware allways against Communism and we ware forced to it so the last part of this video doesn't make sense
@kacperq1987
@kacperq1987 6 жыл бұрын
Why you use modern politic maps?
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 6 жыл бұрын
We suddenly went from an elected kingship to an inherited kingship. Please explain.
@MonsieurDean
@MonsieurDean 6 жыл бұрын
Found that a little odd too, but from what I gather, his son just happened to be elected after him. Like Bush.
@piotrlanga9840
@piotrlanga9840 6 жыл бұрын
You oversimplified things and made your prediction waaay too far going, actually communism rised for low class as an opposition to russian Ceasar and Lenin would have never rise up if not the proper circumstances. And actually Marks was not the inventor of fully mature Communism. Sorry for possible language mistakes, i am not a native speaker.
@Wiktorino1984
@Wiktorino1984 6 жыл бұрын
Pojawiłby się, Lenin był supportowany przez specjalną grupę i car był pretekstem. Czy byłby to Lenin osobiście czy inna osoba nie ma znaczenia. Ta rewolucja i tak by wybuchła to był syjonistyczny plan.
@villager8154
@villager8154 3 жыл бұрын
Good Ending
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 6 жыл бұрын
in this timeline it would be the first to reach space, because they're so huge that they research it first out of their own size
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 6 жыл бұрын
it really doesnt matter what tech slavs have because poland would have a population big enough to fund a shit ton of research
@davilimalol4612
@davilimalol4612 6 жыл бұрын
What if the sino soviet split never happened
@cieslik7564
@cieslik7564 6 жыл бұрын
1:10 It wasn't just that it was all over fake news of false Dmitry, like that that poles killed Tsar etc.
@TheWalfadr
@TheWalfadr 6 жыл бұрын
2:58 Constantinople*
@tiredtotality4145
@tiredtotality4145 6 жыл бұрын
imagine winged hussars without horses and lances but with bike and m249
@jaydenburgher2651
@jaydenburgher2651 6 жыл бұрын
What is charles v never broke his empire
@cezary150199
@cezary150199 6 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Poland o7. Amazing video :3. May ask for pin? :P
@josephsmith9724
@josephsmith9724 6 жыл бұрын
7:06 wait POLAND CAN INTO SPACE
@keithkania3810
@keithkania3810 5 жыл бұрын
“We were on the verge of greatness, this close!”
@안호성-p6z
@안호성-p6z 5 жыл бұрын
Why do I see so many people shouting Poland will not choose communism? This isn't OTL and it seems like Poland has all the presquites to be communist here: -Becoming great power = very industrialized = high proportion of proletariat -Lost lots of land and prestige = ready for revolution -Has Karl Marx
@fristnamelastname5549
@fristnamelastname5549 6 жыл бұрын
Russia: I got the Biggest Empire. Alit Polish Commonwealth: But can you do this?
@Просточеловекмира-и7з
@Просточеловекмира-и7з 6 жыл бұрын
Russian Empire was bigger
@Aracelerii
@Aracelerii 5 жыл бұрын
This is our dreams come true, Change my mind.
@myohmy9000
@myohmy9000 6 жыл бұрын
What if the Rashidun Caliphate failed to expand?
@Garling18
@Garling18 6 жыл бұрын
What if the Intermarium came into existence?
@Perririri
@Perririri 2 жыл бұрын
From Riga to Odessa
@greatjob9999
@greatjob9999 6 жыл бұрын
These later historical figures like Napoleon and Marx could very well never have been born if history was completely different.
@muhammadabdullahhanif8860
@muhammadabdullahhanif8860 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make 'What if Ottoman Empire repel Polish force in 1683?'
@flameovea3294
@flameovea3294 4 жыл бұрын
The good ending
@jozefkozon4520
@jozefkozon4520 6 жыл бұрын
For this piece with communism everything would be within probability. Not less, I do not think that after reaching the widest territorial spread, destabilization occurred. Napoleon, without Polish volunteers and Polish cavalry regiments, would have been inferior in size, while the Empire could be invited to a coalition against Napoleon, which could have tragic skits for him. In addition, it should be remembered that the creation of a kind of combined form of culture and tolerance could cement expressed state creation. The expansion would go hand in hand with the system, custom and philosophy. With time, the nobles would come to the higher-born from the occupied territories, expanding the empire's capabilities, and the social model would give these people a reason to keep the empire as a whole. In addition, over time, China would also be occupied, India would also be watched. One should remember about the ideology of the Polish nobility, which in short was considered to be the descendants of the arias, which could integrate them with the Brahmins. On the way, Persia and Pakistan would look nice for such a bechemota. After they entered the region of interest of the British Empire, which could end poorly for the British, considering the terror they sowed at their colonies, and because of promises of respect for the customs and position of the local aristocracy that would go with the Polish Empire. Along the way, there would probably be social changes, but the number of nobility would not have fallen from the level of ten percent that lasted throughout the sixteenth century. They would be educated and tolerant people. If in its time Marx did not go bankrupt or marry another woman, he would sooner support the empire, because it would be the hardest way to realize his final vision, that is not what the communists were saying (which was only a prelude) and the situation in which a man he works as much as he needs to be able to create the rest of the time. It is a fact that both Marx and other philosophers of that time saw Poles as the ideal nation.At present, when the values ​​of the old Polish nobility, which in time turned into intelligence, the old ideals, unfortunately, have gone to the angle supplanted by the rustic notion of definitions and customs, promoted somewhat by the Red Russians. Returning to the topic, after the time span, a large part of the British empire, would change the ruler, while the red jackets would be in retreat. It is possible that it would be suggested that joining the US to the Empire, which, considering the mentality of people at that time, could be called probable. In this moment the Empire enters the nineteenth century. The British are in retreat, while IP covers the flag of most of the globe. Only the unexplored territories, British and Spanish are sovereign (if they did not trigger a Romanization war directed at an empire) and Japan. The Wright brothers are developing the plane. Maria Sklodowska-Ciri discovers radiation. Ciołkowski develops an air-conditioned plane, cheap airship with a metal hull, rocket carriers and the entire theory of space travel. In addition, other Polish inventions should be added, as well as those made on the territory designated by the empire. At the beginning of the twentieth century, the bases on the moon would have been a monument. Do tego kawałka z komunizmem wszystko było by w granicach prawdopodobiństwa.Nie mniej, nie sądzę, aby po osiągnięciu najszerszej rozpiętości terytorialnej, doszło do destabilizacji. Napoleon bez polskich ochotników i polskich regimentów kawalerii był by słabszy liczebnie, zaś Imperium mogło by zostać zaproszone do koalicji przeciw Napoleonowi, co mogło by mieć dla niego tragiczne skódki Ponadto pamiętać należy o tym, że stworzenie pewnego rodzaju połączonej formy kultury oraz tolerancyjności mogła by cementować wyrażony twór państwowy. Ekspansja szła by w parze z systemem, zwyczajem i filozofią. Z czasem, do szlachty dochodzili by wyżej urodzeni z zajętych terenów, poszerzając możliwości Imperium, zaś model społeczny dawał by tym ludziom powód by utrzymać imperium jako całości. Ponadto, z czasem, Chiny również zostały by zajęte, również Indie były by obserwowane. Należy pamiętać, o ideologi pochodzenia polskiej szlachty, która w skrócie uważała się za potomków ariów, co mogło by zintegrować ich z Braminami. Po drodze, Persja i Pakistan wyglądały by ładnie dla takiego bechemota. Po weszli by w region zainteresowania Imperium Brytyjskiego, co mogło by się zakończyć w słabo dla brytyjczyków, zważywszy na terror, jaki siali na swoich koloniach, oraz ze względu na obietnice szacunku dla obyczajów i pozycji miejscowych arystokracji, jaka szła by z imperium Polskim. Po drodze, zaszły by zapewne zmiany społeczne, jednak liczba szlachty nie spadła by z poziomu dziesięciu procent, jaki utrzymywał się przez cały szesnasty wiek. Byli by to ludzie wykształceni i tolerancyjni. Jeżeli W swoim czasie marks by nie zbankrutował lub ożenił się z inną kobietą, to prędzej by poparł imperium, gdyż było by onno najkrudszą drogą do realizacji jego końcowej wizji, czyli nie tego co głosili komuniści( co było tylko preludium) a sytuacją w której człowiek pracuje tyle ile musi, aby móc tworzyć przez resztę czasu. Faktem, jest, że zarówno sam Marks, jak i inni filozofowie tamtego czasu widziało Polaków jako naród idealny. Obecnie, kiedy to wartości dawnej polskiej szlachty, która z czasem zmieniła się w inteligencję, dawne ideały niestety odeszły w kąt wyparte przez wieśniackie pojęcie definicji i zwyczajów, promowanych poniekąd przez czerwonych rosjan. Wracając do tematu, to po kródkim czasie, Spore części imperium Brytyjskiego, zmieniły by władcę, zaś czerwone kurtki były by w odwrocie. Możliwe, że zaproponowano by przyłączenie się USA do Imperium, co zważywszy na mentalności ludzi w tamtym okresie, nazwać można prawdopodobnym. W tym momoęcie Imperium wkracza w dziewiętnasty wiek. Brytyjczycy są w odwrocie, zaś IP okrywa swoją flagą większości globu. Suwerenne są tylko terytoria niezbadane, Brytyjskie i Hiszpańskie (o ile nie wywołali wojny romanizacyjnej skierowanej w któreś imperium) oraz Japonia. Bracia Wright opracowywują samolot. Maria skłodowska-Ciri odkrywa promieniowanie. Ciołkowski opracowywuje klimatyzowany samolot, tani sterowiec o metalowym kadłubie, Rakiety nośne oraz całą teorię podróży kosmicznej. Ponadto, należy dodać inne polskie wynalazki, oraz te dokonane na wyznaczonym przez imperium terenie. Na początku dwudziestego wieku, bazy na księżycu były by już zabytkiem.
@masterkony
@masterkony 6 жыл бұрын
that's more like it
@funkykoval9424
@funkykoval9424 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Polish mate, and this is scary dude
@LumenArty
@LumenArty 6 жыл бұрын
5:28 Why does the US own most of Canada?
@dymsza
@dymsza 6 жыл бұрын
I think you have capture a important point. The political system of commonwealth was not sustainable and would collapse sooner or later.
@konstancjan8951
@konstancjan8951 6 жыл бұрын
What if the Teutonic Order didn't exist? Or didn't unify with Brandenburg? Would German unification never happen?
@halv5370
@halv5370 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a suggestion: what if the 2008 recession turned into a depression
@welcometothemilkhotel4802
@welcometothemilkhotel4802 6 жыл бұрын
Finally Poland do can into space
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