MIT Science Reporter - "Landing on the Moon" (1966)

[@larryjohnny]

He almost took out the host when he demonstrated the landing gear leg, lol..

[@lesaber251]

Almost broke his kneecaps, lol.

[@shirleeeyyy]

@@lesaber251 I just saw that! that's hillarious, the reporter didn't know how to react but with a nervous laugh....... The arrogance of nasa dude......Anybody else after saying explosive would've added "Stay clear!!"

[@bejarano1960]

I can assure you that the MIT reporter was told precisely where to stand, well before the demonstration. He probably had a mark on the floor indicating where to stand. The reporter was prepared for what would happen. Anyone that assumes that the engineer was just taking a chance that he wouldn't nail the reporter in the nuts, isn't thinking beyond the end of their nose.

[@shirleeeyyy]

@@bejarano1960 yea as i watched more of these i realized every question and answer were well rehearsed.

[@bejarano1960]

Not surprising when one considers that MIT was a partner with NASA (MIT designed and built the Apollo guidance computers), I'm reasonably certain that NASA funded the film, and probably wrote the script. Regardless, it is still an informative and educational film, made at a time when very few people had any knowledge of the space program.

[@Designandrew]

I've seen so many modern apollo documentaries and not one of them went into as much detail about the LEM as this one did. Great stuff!

[@ddegn]

It was really great to see inside.

[@jshepard152]

People are dumber now.

[@CivicTypeRGT]

Where is the moon rover???

[@joojoojeejee6058]

@@CivicTypeRGT The design wasn't ready yet in 1966 and it wasn't used at all in the first Apollo missions.

[@appletongallery]

I’ve probably seen about 100 vids on the faking of the Apollo missions- for those who found it was a hoa*x - we have fun too with the documentaries.

[@allgood6760]

Awesome!.. I saw Buzz Aldrin speak for an hour here in NZ in 2010 about his experience ON the Moon and in space.. thanks from NZ 🇳🇿🚀👍

[@E_Legal_Alien]

Kia Ora from Phoenix Arizona

[@allgood6760]

@@E_Legal_Alien Same👍... from Wellington 👍🇳🇿

[@SAWats]

Buzz, still going strong!!

[@itsover6082]

His experience in a basement you mean?

[@allgood6760]

@@itsover6082 No not in a basement.. his experience as a fighter pilot, a test pilot and an astronaut 👍✈️🚀

[@DMBall]

This is the best examination of the LEM I've ever seen. I wish it had been broadcast more widely before the landing itself.

[@LourivalConceicaoSilvaJunior]

hello, im from Brasil Agree, but i think that iby then, this video ts a top secrect, , , i thinkr be carefull, .

[@mikehoffman2102]

Yeah good thing it never really went to the moon because the astronauts would be dead.

[@adriansherlockdamondark.1094]

@@LourivalConceicaoSilvaJunior The project was not secret.

[@sandrosfregola5896]

​@@mikehoffman2102yes and the earth is flat of course

[@alanfake9572]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqrLiZWbm7SAoZY@@sandrosfregola5896

[@pixoariz]

MIT certainly was on the leading edge of TV kinescope recording technology. The 'Science Reporter' transfers are some of the best I've seen.

[@magnetmountain33]

Wow well done for that one how to put in a backhanded comment like that fantastic yes you’re right they were great at taking stuff with air fix models

[@brianarbenz1329]

John Fitch was wonderful! He does the best job of conducting an interview of anyone in that period of typically stiff presentations. He knows just when to intervene with a simple question to keep the viewers from feeling left behind by jargon, but he doesn't overdo it. He lets the tech people talk. I had never seen these MIT Science Reports until the youtube years, though I was a space-minded kid in the mid-1960s. I'm not sure if these aired on TV. I know one of our stations would air the NASA-produced "Aeronautics and Space Report" issues, often during baseball rainouts as time filler. Those were good, but these are the best!

[@Mike_Greene]

yeah right

[@GeneralJackRipper]

I remember in Tom Kelly's book he talked about building the LEM mock-up, and how they wanted to demonstrate the landing gear extension, but they had to cut a gouge in the floor to make it happen, now on this old video, we see the gouge in the floor where they did just that. Really ties it together.

[@EnlightenedPatriot1]

It looks like that mock-up made it to the moon mission. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXSmYaGCZ9-ao68

[@Agarwaen]

@@EnlightenedPatriot1 so you're neither enlightened nor a patriot

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@EnlightenedPatriot1 It looks like you need a life.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@EnlightenedPatriot1 Oh wow, you're a flattard!

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@Agarwaen Did you notice its join date

[@SueBobChicVid]

It's great to have these old documentaries saved and accessible to us common folk.

[@jugganuat6440]

I was done when I saw suebobchic it's at that point I ruled out common sense

[@MrDaiseymay]

yeah, the best comedy on tv

[@OverTaxed42Long]

Too bad common folk have no common sense and no ability to think critically. I guess the propagandists think if this tripe was good enough to work back then it's good enough for today and the last sixty years.

[@eventcone]

@@OverTaxed42Long You're surely talking about the people who get caught up in ridiculous conspiracy theories regarding subjects in which they have no expertise.

[@dirkarse7784]

It was all lost...now found again.

[@demonicsweaters]

this is just amazing, thank you for sharing

[@raxxtango]

Space program employed over 500,000 people in the 1960's and sparked the development of high-tech industries of the 70's and through today

[@Bobbelobben]

raxxtango too bad they accidently lost the technology then...

[@reel60frames45]

raxxtango lets look forward to next landing. I just ignore everything and will continue to be neutral on the whole thing of fact vs conspiracy until the next manned mission. I've been waiting for this since I learnt of the last mission that was in the 70s...

[@SuperEcotech]

that's what it was all about....jobs,and developing and testing new technologies..... in looking for info on the life support systems,I believe that's gonna be the key to proving or disproving the success of the missions.....

[@scottfirman]

And yet flat earthers still insist we didnt go. FOOLS!

[@vvanderer]

it must have cost a fortune to pay them all off to keep quiet about the hoax

[@michaeldrago6999]

I like how John Fitch did not realize how close he was standing to the landing strut - he was surprised when it came so close to kneecapping him

[@literallyshaking8019]

I was just about to mention that. They could’ve warned him first lol

[@michaelboso9355]

😂 holy cow! That guy just about got totally smashed! SNL should spoof this.

[@gordyfurr]

Harharhar That was close to being painful!

[@tomstamford6837]

@@gordyfurr Yet he was surprisingly calm as it extended. You would expect anyone to have jumped back as soon as it was released and coming towards them. Unless they had rehearsed it or this wasn't the first take?

[@MagnetOnlyMotors]

Would have made for a good law suit. 😅

[@david-ky7rt]

Very interesting video. Amazing, the technology, so advanced for that time period, everything thought out. All geniuses were involved with the building of the lunar module. Absolutely brilliant.

[@xplanenation2865]

Really? Were you paid to say that? Just asking - the lunar module is a physical impossibility

[@david-ky7rt]

@@xplanenation2865 what are you talking about??, you don't even know what you are talking about, just like sleepy Joe.

[@DontJustStandThere]

@@david-ky7rt What he's talking about ... FYI ... that this whole thing is total BS. A hoax. If you'd pull your head out of your ass long enough to get a sufficient amount of oxygen, THEN try to research from an objective vs. brainwashed perspective, MAYBE like the rest of the population with triple digit IQ's you'd quickly realize this was IMPOSSIBLE at the time AND be able to retain that info long enough to retract your idiot comments on YT. Hell, worth a try anyways, right?

[@david-ky7rt]

@@DontJustStandThere you don't know what you are talking about. The lunar landing were REAL, 6 successful lunar missions, REAL, you need to wake up, all these conspiracy theories , ridiculous !!, It's REAL, WAKE UP.

[@dougraney3127]

My father worked on this program. His part of the project can be seen @ 9:30-10:30. We watched the launch, moon approach, landing, moon activities, moon launch and splash down on black and white tv.... I was 6 when this was filmed.

[@rawveganterra]

@doug... Is your father in this video?

[@dougraney3127]

@rawveganterra no he is not. They worked on the fuel delivery system on the descent and ascent boosters at Redstone Arsnel in Alabama.

[@TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

My father-in-law worked on the program too. Who was your father​@@dougraney3127

[@jameskelly1680]

This is the first and only video I've ever seen showing the leg deployment downlock mechanism. I'm also looking for a similar video showing how the Skylab I Apollo Telescope Mount turned sideways and locked into place. Anyone know of such a video?

[@dennisdeal3323]

The attention to detail and how to utilize every inch of space is awesome. The sheer amount of thought it took. For everything to work together in a small space is sheer genius.

[@Bernievidtime]

Fantastic to find these treasures available. Got anymore? Thanks!

[@christophermiller3581]

Thank you MIT Sicence Reporter for sharing this documentary.

[@krytios1]

Absolutely love seeing these gems. Amazing engineering and thought from brilliant minds.

[@larrylarry1]

One of the bays in the descent module held the lunar rover they drove around, in later missions. Most missions also made the ascent module crash into the moon, after they dock after the landing, to measure the moon’s insides with the seismometers left at different landing sites. Nice time capsule of that time.

[@justrosy5]

Thank you for posting these tapes! They make a great introduction for anyone who wants to really start learning about space flight! Obviously, they aren't modern, but that's OK! They still teach the basic principles, and they also help us modern folk understand the challenges and the special moments of that era in vivid, well understood detail. It would be great if there were a 2019+ version of these tapes too! You could ask various well known reporters and even comedians (to make learning entertaining for those who are more socially inclined) to step into the role of the host we see here! That way, people interested in all of this can further cross-compare yesterday and today, to see the changes and those things that are timeless principles. Hope that makes sense! I'm really enjoying all of this! Again, thanks for posting these converted tapes!

[@ahmetmutlu348]

Elon should watch this and add features of this device to spacex rockets ;)

[@magnetmountain33]

You guys are worse than a bunch of natty bodybuilders

[@james-faulkner]

@@ahmetmutlu348 If The Muskrat watched this he would then claim he invented Lunar landing. He might say that yeah he was like the first you know to think about it you know like land on that rock up there. Nobody had any idea how to do it until like him, ya know. The same way he invented tunnels and bricks. I will say this about the Muskrat, white-South African.

[@NicoleSatchell-k8b]

what an amazing insight of the design of this remarkable spacecraft.. LEM up-close and personal, this documentary is a gem.

[@AC-ih7jc]

I used to volunteer at the Cradle of Aviation Museum, and I think I remember that the LM simulator ended up there. You'd be surprised as to how much cool vintage space stuff that now resides in a museum was rescued from a landfill... Yes, we get all misty-eyed about the moon landing _now_ but 30-40 years ago, interest in such things was _very_ low. I and my friends were the oddballs

[@rong1924]

Tom Kelly talking about the simulator doing thousands of calculations a second. Now game consoles do tens of trillions of calculations a second. And… Holy crap that was TOM KELLY!

[@Madasin_Paine]

How come Grumman qualified? Think Texas MIC... no bid contracts under Ike JFk LBJ Nixon Sell it on alien demonic invasion and The Reds Rackets! News benders BBC Ca 1960s TV

[@WHATISTRUTHTV]

But apparently the technology has been lost to get back to the moon 😅

[@richardbrown1189]

John Fitch is a great presenter and interviewer. The way he builds information for the viewer into his questions is masterly.

[@blue04mx53]

fantastic thanks for posting this valuable archival documentary. Why isn't this running on the NASA channel?

[@djmkultra]

Impressive interview. The reporter was intelligent. Rare, with modern reporters.

[@danielt6689]

These were the days when content was valued over entertainment.

[@twizz420]

It's an internal MIT report. They had stupid reporters in the 1960's as well.

[@donster692able]

Funny I didn't catch that.

[@eetunimee3883]

Robert Wilson ...It must be pre "Operation Mockingbird"..

[@uploadJ]

@Eetu Nimee re: "Robert Wilson ...It must be pre "Operation Mockingbird".." It was a day and time before Flouride was added to the water. /sarc

[@edal61]

Relevant then as it is today, invaluable information about the process. Thanks so mucho for this video.

[@chrisbolland5634]

Imagine being a kid in 1966 watching this. They wanted to bring you along to the moon and show you as much as possible what was happening, it's amazing. The frankness and openness with which NASA worked is commendable especially during the cold war.

[@Mike_Greene]

comment sounds bot-y

[@chrisbolland5634]

@@Mike_Greene Ha! Wdm?

[@Mike_Greene]

You'll not get it. First off this is exactly the type of ish that is shown to children and is the reason why they can say they blew up the Moon and you'll not question the validity of it

[@chrisbolland5634]

@@Mike_Greene ...What the hell are you talking about? Who 'blew up the moon'? Are you mentally okay?

[@DeputyNordburg]

@@Mike_Greene Human: I believe in UFOs and Illuminate Lizard People, and the moon landings were fake! Bot: Is there any real believable evidence of that? Human: Your a tool/bot/NASA assassin! Whoops I need more periods....

[@ChristLink-Channel]

How come they don't make documentaries like this any more? Very clear, well explained, detailed, complete, well narrated, good questions, ... just outstanding! Such a pity that today's efforts are so feeble and useless.

[@monteceitomoocher]

Agree, they assumed a level of intelligence in the viewer that's missing today, it's great that these extremely clever people could take time out to talk to us about their work without any patronisation at all.

[@MattExzy]

People don't even talk this good anymore. Everything now has to be big, bold, loud, noisy, flashy, bright, or else people might lose interest from their Tik Tok-level of attention spans. Our technology has greatly improved, but people have gone backwards.

[@marklivas990]

what an amazing insight of the design of this remarkable spacecraft.

[@RS-ji2ui]

Great documentary thanks for posting.

[@highspeedgaz]

Fantastic , all questions answered in full and understood ,even for me who was a small boy at the time .

[@appletongallery]

It’s a lie.

[@ct6502c]

@@appletongallery

[@chezboi8843]

@@ct6502c I bet it was those 100% lead paint chips

[@anodine_org]

@@appletongallery - How can you say that! Prove that it was a lie!!! It was millions of lies!!! 🙂

[@TastyBusiness]

Wow, this is early enough that the LEM mockup still has a round hatch out onto the porch.

[@chrispenn715]

Good to see some of the development work that went into the project - that LEM mock-up looked very heavy! :-) For example, the cases for holding experimental equipment looked to very thick and bulky. - Also interesting to see some of the early design ideas - eg the exit hatch for the moon excursions was round in this version and seemed to have hinges - rather than the smaller square panel on the real thing. Fascinating stuff!

[@ClausB252]

LM underwent a weight reduction program before the landings. But structures still had to be strong enough to withstand the 4G launch environment.

[@iamchillydogg]

This is one of the most informative space pieces I've ever seen. 🤓

[@appletongallery]

Misinformation. We didn’t go to the moon.

[@EnlightenedPatriot1]

"Infamous" you mean? kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXSmYaGCZ9-ao68

[@angr3819]

Thank you. Appreciated.

[@noe616]

Amazing report.

[@BsUJeTs]

Sweet video. The technology of the 60’s. Amazing, scary and lifting at the same time !

[@canbest7668]

So true!

[@arelortal6580]

At 23:44 someone lifts one of the horizontal panels that covers the back of the computers and retrieves a paper bag with some sandwiches and a coke

[@kenbaker2850]

I don't see where they stowed the moon buggy on the Lem, or on the Apolo Space Craft? 5:23

[@blackhawk7r221]

Not on Apollo 11. Look at later Apollo LEMs that actually carried a buggy.

[@ComicMelon]

The LEM was redesigned later to allow for a folding rover, docus are avaiable if you google them, there's around 80,000 film scans, and over 200,000 documents available for the public to see.

[@leonardgibney2997]

The thought of being out thousands of miles in space in a vehicle not much bigger than a telephone cell l find terrifying.

[@rocki1016]

…terrifying and “literally” unbelievable lol! We never went to the moon doofus.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Three years before the actual first landing, but still forecasted it accurately in most respects. I think they pictured only one astronaut actually stepping out of the LM, but apart from that, it seemed very close.

[@Mike_Greene]

and that isnt suspicious

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

@@Mike_Greene Perhaps is, to a certain type of mind. Then again, maybe most of the choices for how to do big things are pretty obvious.

[@enochianwolf]

yes very scripted

[@jackkomisar458]

Imagine coming 240,000 miles and landing on the Moon, and one astronaut staying in the LM the whole time. No doubt the astronauts hated that idea.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

@@jackkomisar458 I think two male and two female astronauts sounds like a lot more fun. Even if there's no sex.

[@AllieJ123]

So glad I found this video I had referred to this as the Lunar Excursion Module and I was told that I was incorrect that it was simply th,e Lunar module. My brother-in-law worked at Grumman called it the LEM so at least I know it was called that at one time and I’m not crazy LOL

[@rolandsuhr145]

Well actually they kept calling it the LEM throughout the program, but started spelling it the LM after the Apollo 1 fire. "Excursion" seemed to sound too light-hearted.

[@brianarbenz7206]

This is from the Go-Fever days, when Project Apollo excited everyone and and kept us filled with anticipation. We kept hearing we were going to go to the Moon, and we believed we would, yet we couldn't imagine it actually happening. It was the decade when the unreal became real. Wonderful time to be a child.

[@gonzogeier]

Yes it's the time of the space science fiction! 😉

[@youngsamuel1]

Many children still believe this garbage. But hey we got velcro and spandex from it

[@jugganuat6440]

Brian arbenz it's very sad as a child I also believed Christopher Columbus discovered America until I learned otherwise.

[@nebtheweb8885]

@@youngsamuel1 Garbage? I really hope that was a sarcastic joke intended to portray the opinion of an idiot rather than an opinion of an actual idiot.

[@nebtheweb8885]

@@youngsamuel1 and we are supposed to believe a conspiracy nutjob like you? Are these rules written down somewhere, because the hypocrisy makes them difficult to follow. So, some conspiracy crackpot nutjob on KZbin made a few conspiratard videos and now you are one of the chosen few who knows 'Da Troof' huh? Space is fake? Lol. You must be a flattardian.

[@altamiradorable]

The landing gears of the LEM were manufactured in Montreal!

[@robertoalvarez3533]

1966 and the LEM door was still round! Project Apollo is still amazing today.

[@ApolloKid1961]

When the astronauts actually started working with the LM, they soon noticed that their life-pack could not go through the round hatch.

[@ramongonzalez2112]

Excellent. Just what I was looking for.👏

[@appletongallery]

A lie in beautiful black and white.

[@ct6502c]

@@appletongallery No one cares about your nutty flat Earther conspiracy theories.

[@anodine_org]

@@appletongallery - a nostalgic lie is always more romantic 🙂

[@EricIrl]

The real ones were actually made of tubing covered in fairly thin aluminium cladding. Grumman were awarded the contract in 1962 and started designing immediately. The LM went through many design changes although it was almost finalised by 1966. However, some of the images in this documentary show the LM with a circular forward hatch. This was changed to a square hatch in the final design.

[@EricIrl]

No Lunar Lander EVER crashed. You are probably referring to the Lunar Landing Training Vehicle (LLTV), two of which did crash. These were not lunar landers. They were training devices built to train astronauts in some of the characteristics of the real Lunar Module. They were MUCH less sophisticated than the real LM and were operating in a far less benign gravitational environment so, when they went wrong, they went wrong very quickly. In fact, NASA did not really want the astronauts to use the LLTV but the astronauts insisted. The real LM performed like a champ and indeed, saved the lives of the Apollo 13 crew. The people at Grumman should be rightly proud of the LM.

[@justcurious7614]

+Milt Farrow Try fact checking before you commit to total nonsense. Ericlrl's post is correct in identifiying the LLTV as the vehicle you mistook for the LM. There were several hundred flights in these vehicles with Neil Armstrong taking some 50 or 60 of those flights himself. Only 2 crashed with the one you have a fixation on was the one being flown by Neil Armstrong in mid 1968. This crash was not due to a design flaw but a pilot error. Bill Anders flew the rig just before Armstrong and he forgot to inform Armstrong that he had operated the crossfeed valve that bled propellant from the RCS tank to the main engine tank. The result was that the LLTV ran out of RCS propellant in midflight. You are propagating the malicious propaganda of the moon loon hoax conspiracists!

[@sol2544]

I can't imagine why they would change to a square hatch, isn't that more vulnerable to strain from pressure difference?

[@justcurious7614]

The change from round to square was to allow a crew suited up in the A7L spacesuit with the PLSS backpack to ingress/egress. The pressure difference was only 3.5 psia and with 3 EVAs would only go through 3 cycles of decompression followed by recompression besides which the four corners had a very generous radius of curvature.

[@sol2544]

Just CuriouS Ah, forgot that they lowered the pressure because of pure oxygen. Good point

[@sblack48]

Early version. You can see quite a few things that changed, like the round hatch. It seems almost comical that they tried to fit a guy wearing a square backpack out of a round hole. Any toddler could gave told them that was wrong! But it’s always like that when you are in a hurry trying to solve very complex problems. And really the LEM was an engineering marvel and performed flawlessly and saved the apollo 13 crew by doing something it was never designed to do. The Grumman team had reason to be very proud, despite how they were portrayed in the apollo 13 movie. It looks naked without the mylar foil.

[@mako88sb]

Yes, I read Tom Kelly’s book about designing the LM and when he first heard about the Apollo 13 incident he headed straight to Grumman hours earlier than the usual start time. He was going to start calling people in but was amazed to find them already showing up. Quite the commitment by everyone. On the other hand, over at North American Aviation, they all seemed more concerned about finger-pointing who’s fault it might have been.

[@DeputyNordburg]

Before moon walking the astronauts in suits poked their heads out the top round hatch to survey the area around the lander. They did not have the PLSS at this point, but were connected to the LM via umbilical cords. The side hatch was "square" but had rounded corners. They better accommodated the PLSS, but of course there astronauts had tools, cameras and sample bags to haul out and then in some cases back in. So the square hatch made more sense.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@DeputyNordburg That happened on Apollo 15 only.

[@rolandsuhr145]

Actually the front hatch was originally designed as a second docking port.

[@sblack48]

@@rolandsuhr145 that was probably axed as part of the massive weight saving effort

[@planpitz4190]

Always had great admiration for the Grumman company manufacturing a great range of dependable products from the LEM ,to Navy aircraft ,even Aluminium Canoes .Watch the great movie Deliverance were only the Grumman vessel survives the adventure ! Best ever product placement.

[@bringersbob]

amazing how this has been preserved!

[@titiparisien5915]

Great historical document. Thank you.

[@r.koopman9307]

LEM up-close and personal, this documentary is a gem

[@johnfisher7143]

My goodness. Their lives depended on that tiny ascent engine working flawlessly to get them off the moon. Imagine hitting the go button and nothing happens. I’d have been having nightmares about the possibility of that.

[@gb-jg1ud]

Given in 1969 a car might not even start reliability in the winter...

[@dongraham4760]

The ascent engine used hypergolic fuels which means they (fuel and oxidizer) ignite on contact with each other . The astronauts if needed such as the electrical actuation of the engines did not work , they had actual access to manual valves that on turning on like a tap they could start the engine.

[@ComicMelon]

That's actually the beuty of the design, it was like sitting on a bomb, it was simple as hell.

[@smittymcjob2582]

my heart was pounding when they were standing inside the LEM talking about the landing process.....

[@slave_K]

7:08 the repoter almost got his knees broken, wow. Space science is a dangerous stuff.

[@kdshak4904]

Nah. He was just startled. Please note the white painted box was used to mark the boundary of leg movement. The reporter is clearly standing at the edge but outside the box’s boundary. 🙏🙏🙏

[@WildBillCox13]

Beautiful. Thanks for posting., Liked and shared.

[@mikemurphy8714]

This may be the first video documentation of the general public first realizing the moon landing would be televised.

[@cynical9822]

amazing how far we have come. and yet not.

[@uploadJ]

But, look what Musk can do ...

[@PygmalionFaciebat]

@@uploadJ Musk even didnt put one single man in space ;).. a thing the russians already did 60 years ago.. with no computer at all in the spaceship ;)

[@uploadJ]

re: "Musk even didnt put one single man in space" OK Karen.

[@PygmalionFaciebat]

@@uploadJ Wrong answer - i am european - and my native language is german. I only now vage, that ''Karen'' is kind of a modern insult on the internet (in the american space) - but i dont know exactly whats about it. Unless you think, everyone is an american, you need to explain it to me, ok Ohrwaschlkaktus ? ;)

[@bradstewart7007]

@@PygmalionFaciebat Assuming you posted this before May 2020? If not, you're mistaken.

[@TheLocoUnion]

Interesting that they believed that one astronaut would remain in the LEM to “maintain communications”

[@uploadJ]

I've got to think that I would want to come out of that LEM and walk on the moon too!

[@WilliamHorsley1962]

Tech was more touchy back then but thank goodness he was able to walk on the moon

[@johnkean6852]

@@WilliamHorsley1962 You mean tech is perfect _now_ 🤔 its crapacious never works as it ought

[@carabela125]

He had to stay onboard and keep the motor running in case they needed a fast getaway.

[@johnkean6852]

You travel 250k miles but don't even peep oit the doorway to have a quick look or get your mate to let you slip out for 5 minutes to touch the surface or relieve yourself of claustophobia? THAT'S UNBRLIEVABLE

[@christophermiller3581]

Thank you MIT news reporter for sharing this news.

[@macplumber]

Used to have an aluminum canoe made by Grumman. Best canoe I ever had. 🤔

[@dirkarse7784]

Wow, and it didn't sink.

[@dconfused9919]

Grumman makes the postal trucks

[@michaellyne8773]

Aluminium does not protectagainst the radiation belts! Barriers of lead, concrete, or water provide protection from penetrating radiation such as gamma rays and neutrons. This is why certain radioactive materials are stored under water or in concrete or lead-lined rooms, and why dentists place a lead blanket on patients receiving x-rays of their teeth.

[@jshepard152]

@@dconfused9919 Ah yes, the Grumman Long Life Vehicle (LLV).

[@Emdee5632]

Episode 5 (''Spider'') of the HBO 1998 documentary TV mini series ''From the Earth to the Moon'' describes the design and construction of the Apollo Lunar lander.

[@yassassin6425]

An excellent episode.

[@tm502010]

Awesome video.

[@bradleysmall2230]

For a project of this scale and cost, every part would be manufactured and have fit tolerances of a few thousandths of an inch. Highly precise mechanical manufacturing techniques were available at the time, allowing the fabrication of things like precision optics, avionics, and watch-making. Every fastener location would be precisely calculated to minimize tension, shear, and stress loads, based on a mathematical load profile model, not randomly taped or glued, nailed, or riveted at random locations. There is not a professional engineer in the world who would permit the possibility of a fabrication phase that would let obviously unskilled and sloppy technicians just wing it at the last minute. It makes no difference that “panels don’t have to be have to be that precise,” as some have opined, the design process would automatically result in the consistent, and highly optimized placement of every part. There would be no use of tape, let alone pipes only half-wrapped! Sticky tape is made from gummy (liquid state) glue. Any liquid, exposed to a vacuum, 200 degree+ temperatures, and intense UV radiation would immediately boil, or vaporize. Also, the design would never allow for gaps - anywhere. Any gap is a potential for unknown objects or particles to enter locations which could change the weight distribution, or result in unplanned thermal or chemical conditions, and would have been designed out the realm of possibility in the first draft. Even a small possibility of something being even slightly dislocated from a precise location would be unacceptable, as this would represent an unknown, which would require much more complexity in design. For example, in this case, the engineering design fabrication procedure must have specified something like “now just put tape wherever it looks like something might shake loose, or Lord knows what could happen!” Of course this is absurd, but the engineering design process would necessarily have to account for such a ridiculous fabrication variations, and would require an analysis of all the possible places that the fabricator might in fact place the tape, and how those possible tape placements might affect thermal and stress characteristics. It is far easier to simply specify exactly where everything needs to be fastened, as one would expect. And WTF are they doing protecting metal struts from the sun anyway?? There are plenty of other exposed metal struts. And why are the thruster assemblies different, ? (see the right side of the NASA-linked picture) and why are there more than what is necessary to provide orientation control? Or, to save on weight, why not have one gimbaled thruster per corner, and aim it in the right direction, using a gravity, acceleration, and altitude-actuated control system? The analog control systems technology to do this had been used in rocket guidance systems for decades. I could go on listing absurdities for hours, as could any first year engineering school drop-out, (as could any mechanic, or manufacturing industry worker, for that matter). I’ve never been a moon hoax conspiracist, but if this picture is one NASA actually claims is taken on the moon, it is absolutely certain the entire program was a fraud. If there were something beyond absolutely certain, it would be that.

[@eventcone]

Which picture are you talking about? If you are going to say so much about it, at least identify the picture in question.

[@eventcone]

No link or reference to that picture?

[@phreephallin]

@@eventcone nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/image/ap11_lm_as11_40_5927.jpg

[@m9078jk3]

Yet it was done with the amazing perfection and technology of Y-12 assisting for critical components so the entire program was not a fraud.

[@michaellyne8773]

Omg! What a lot to read, but I read everything you typed, and everything you mentioned is absolutely correct, on the moon one astronaut said it looks unreal..lol maybe because it was and also what he said was in whistle blowers code? Even if I was offered £1000,000 I would never get aboard that tin can!! Looks good theoretically but in practice...not a chance! Thunderbirds springs to mind also space 99 hate to say it but Russia were first into space while nasa was still trying to get a rocket off the ground! When the Russians launched sputnik. It frightened America! As being frightened of extinction if the truth be known! All this was going on at the height of a cold war! Barriers of lead, concrete, or water provide protection from penetrating radiation such as gamma rays and neutrons. This is why certain radioactive materials are stored under water or in concrete or lead-lined rooms, and why dentists place a lead blanket on patients receiving x-rays of their teeth. Yet apollo missions went with aluminium! Give me a break. Very interesting reading thanks again.

[@SwingingChoke]

For All Mankind is probably one of the best series I’ve seen in a long time. The detail in the show is incredible. ( it’s a series of if Russia beat us to the moon, the show follows the historical time line with a mix of an alternative history that occurs as Russia does not loose the space race and continues as a superpower into the 21th century. )

[@ysakgul]

I have never heard about this gantry structure at 21:37. I thought they had only a jet engine based model for an flying version of the LM that can simulate moon gravity on Earth. Maybe they gave up the idea of this gantry later?

[@DeputyNordburg]

The gantry structure is one of 5 different simulators they had for teaching different things. This one was far safer to operate and a good place to start. The jet engine based simulators the LLRV and LLTV were far more real, and far more dangerous. The gantry is still there btw, you can see it from the road and they use it for various things.

[@2Oldcoots]

The reporter asks penetrating questions and the contrast with today is stunning.

[@bonanzatime]

Philip Dennis Absolutely.

[@DL-kc8fc]

A wonderful movie. I'm an Apollo fan. On the simulator -60FPS was not good for landing. :)

[@mk1st]

That test pilot probably saw Armstrong land on the moon a few years later and thought "I could have done that"

[@bradstewart7007]

Yeah, I suspect the test pilot was also a developer of the system. I'm sure he saw Armstrong as an end user.

[@anodine_org]

He rather thought - "ok, it's fake."

[@wanderingfido]

HOLY CRAP. Check out what he says starting at minute 4 and 33 seconds: "Even though manned exploration of the moon isn't scheduled to occur until the END OF THIS DECADE, the hardware for project Apollo is already being developed..."

[@almostfm]

Yes. The assumption was that we'd get to the Moon in 1968 or 1969. But it takes years to develop the rocket and all the spacecraft systems.

[@u2mister17]

almost- Careful, you are replying to a wasted mind. It is heartbreaking that the left has no use for achievement or brain power of any kind. They are very good at using slaves emotions though. Fido- You can be much more than a battery.

[@justcurious7614]

+almostfm No! No! No! The whole Apollo stack was quickly constructed out of balsa wood, tissue paper and dope the day before. The engineering clueless just do not understand the timeline planning behind such a huge project. The liquid oxygen tank that exploded due to faulty electrical wiring that nearly destroyed the Apollo 13 was already manufactured and stockpiled in mid 1968 two years before the disaster. There was enough hardware already manufactured to extend the Apollo moon landings beyond December 1972 by two when the Program was axed.

[@Kapindur]

Idiot. Your an idiot. I'm at a loss for words. idiot will have to work. Idiot. Im going to be sick

[@briandenley]

@@justcurious7614what dumbass planet are you from?

[@gerrittenberkdeboer7763]

They spoke so clear. Answerd accurate... Love it

[@DeputyNordburg]

They should have used funny accents!

[@jimmymurphy7789]

WOW - Such a great accomplishment for Mankind ! 😃 Thank you for posting.

[@ckruberg]

54 years later, this undertaking was, as a professional engineer, insanely complex. Gobsmackingly impressive.

[@erc9468]

Exactly. I’m amazed by the vast, complex infrastructure that was built to train, test, rehearse the whole thing.

[@KimberlyMitchell-jf7nv]

@fallenofftop7181lol😂😂😂

[@elvisburgerking8675]

and faked

[@kevinpittman2517]

faked? go to your nearest observatory and ask to see the lunar landing sites with their telescope.... then come back here and apologize for being raised stupid. @@elvisburgerking8675

[@robertromero8692]

@@elvisburgerking8675 It's you who are a fake.

[@genesisdominus]

at minute 25:50 it looks like since back than, they already had a digital processor fast enough to display messages on a cathode ray tube.

[@Nottsboy24]

Absolutely fantastic 👍 i love science ☺

[@dks13827]

Fascinating documentary. I remember all of the Apollo program quite well.

[@daffidavit]

so do I. This is amazing and explains a lot. Absolutely amazing.

[@johnnyyuma9326]

It was FAKE in 1969, and it is FAKE today. No one goes to space...EVER! Never have, never will. WAKY WAKY, Wake up stupid morons!!!

[@pepecohetes492]

I do too. We were living in Puerto Rico when Apollo 11 took place, and stayed up all night watching live pictures, which were in itself also a new thing. Fascinating, there was hardware built to go 2 more missions but they were cancelled. Cheers.

[@justcurious7614]

+Johnny yuma Well there you go! You'll just have seek solace by taking out your instruction booklet, Mr. Rowbotham's "Zetetic Astronomy For Beginners", and get stuck into some serious science won't you. at least then you can forget about all this NASA nonsense.

[@jrogertrudel6356]

dks13827 - Yes, so do I. Problem is, they were all faked here on earth and we were all fooled in believing we had landed on the moon.

[@brad-bx3mt]

Tom Kelly of Grumman put forth a great book, "Moon Lander" as an excellent how too. The presentation alone to NASA, in attempting to gain the contract for the LEM, was a work of art after the initial "Can We do it?," was answered.

[@kitcanyon658]

Agree that was an awesome account of their challenges of getting that craft built.

[@jonnyjetstreamer997]

Looks like they ended up squaring off that entrance door for more space suit clearance

[@joevignolor4u949]

Sort of. It was to allow the rectangular back packs the astronauts were wearing to fit out the door.

[@kichigaisensei]

This looks and sounds like a Twilight Zone episode. Even the tantalizing music is spot on.

[@JustJaidenism]

Yeah, The Credits Music.

[@LuciFeric137]

Beautifully recorded

[@raulrrojas]

And all that complex equipment worked good at first try, during first mission. Amazing.

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

From the safety of the studio in arizona😂

[@paulzuk1468]

It wasn't the first time, or the first mission

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

@@paulzuk1468 it is the first time and the first mission that launch human from moon surface.(and the video of the launch look seriously fake) Moreover 5 next consecutive mission that launch human from moon surface went on without incident.(not counting incident during the trip to the moon) usually other kind of space mission has about 30% failure rate. There has been evidence of prior tests but on different craft, and no human launch at all

[@paulzuk1468]

@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 By that logic, every human achievement ever undertaken was fake. There were *multiple* test flights of the LM (both crewed and uncrewed) as well as countless simulations undertaken before Apollo 11. Apollo 10 tested every phase of the flight except for terminal landing. You're just wrong. And no, "other kind" of space missions don't have anything remotely approaching a 30% failure rate.

[@ABC-oz5zy]

@@paulzuk1468 You have no idea what you're talking about. Apollo 11 WAS the first time the moon lander was used; with no successful tests, no less. Trying to land the lander on Earth ended up crashing the lander.

[@Spsr555]

Even in 2023, this massive amount of engineering, hardware and electronics is very impressive.

[@jtowens-masonry3359]

and still fake

[@Rock-x5s]

if you are 5 years old

[@TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

It sure is. MIT was a big part of it. Thank you, Nerds. LOL

[@SAWats]

The conspiracy nuts don't realize it would have been harder to fake it. Like not one of the 400,000 persons that worked on the project never told. Lol. That is the only thing that couldn't happen. I guess all the Astronauts and thousands of engineers and controllers were great actors too. Lol

[@wildboar7473]

@@SAWats Well well sane man, you are full of realizations 👍 (if only the Dr's, Phd's, Professors, Medias Debunkers could also realize >> nuts)🤭

[@mikemurphy8714]

I was like duuuuude, I wouldn't stand there if I were you" when he was releasing that landing gear.

[@SeattlePioneer]

Fifty four years after the lunar landings and no one else has come close to duplicating this accomplishment. The only noteworthy innovation has been landing the booster rocket for re use ---that's quite nifty!

[@tomstamford6837]

Repeating what? Flying to the moon? Plenty of craft been sent there, many have landed. If you're talking boots on the ground? They did it 6 times and got their funding cut. No one else needed to prove anything, it had been done. Oh... reusing boosters? Well, the shuttle had been reusing boosters since the 80s, hardly an innovation!

[@roger72715]

7:12 was amazing

[@KevinWRay]

My Favorite Episode of FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON #5 "SPIDER" Absolutely, as the Dr. would say "FANTASTIC."

[@Alainjean127]

Very insightful, and pasionating!

[@nickzwa]

doctor: "So how did you break your leg"? reporter: "A spaceships landing gear hit me as it was deploying" doctor: "how much morphine was he given?" ambulance driver: "he has not had any " doctor: "Ill call for a psychiatric consult then"

[@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703]

OK, but what about my broken leg, doctor?

[@gordonpanther7766]

Great little film! I like the calm feel of it - no jumping here and there every 2 seconds. And I really like the presenter's approach: asks questions, listens to answers and information (and let's us listen to them). Compare to modern general TV, where presenters are more like Mike fucking Tyson in the ring in their tone and approach, and demand at least equal noise-making time to the experts or guests they're speaking to! Perhaps I'm being a little unfair - this was a 'science and tech' interview, and I suppose those still have general decorum and deferment to the expert being interviewed today. But I bet even the general shows and interviews had this touch of class and decorum back then. If only conspiracy claimers (we shouldn't dignify them with the word 'theorist') would fasten their jaws shut for an hour or two, engage their ears and brains and actually watch informational films like this (or read a book, or etc etc), they'd begin to learn enough basics to actually form a meaningful, informed opinion (and, happily, the correct answer!). Sadly, the world of today is becoming ever-more full of village idiots. Anyway, good stuff. I'm currently reading Earl Swift's "Across the Airless Wilds" - about the development of the Lunar Rover used on the final three Apollo missions. Very interesting so I'm going to get the "Haynes Manual" on the rover for some more tech detail. What a fantastic achievement that entire programme was - it showed what a large group of people could do when they put their minds to it and worked together. Joe Public needs to take heed of these examples and do a bit more of that 'working together', instead of sticking heads in sand, looking the other way, blaming politicians for everything, and taking no personal responsibility for this planet beyond what they are legally or socially ordered or shamed into doing. Well - if we want this magnificent human journey to continue much further, anyway...

[@mczeljk]

I think the reporter never would have imagined that 50 years in the future there would be still idiots completely in denial of this marvellous achievement

[@joojoojeejee6058]

Most of which are probably just trolling for fun or their Dear Fuhrer, Vladimir Putin.

[@SamyThai-p4m]

« Achievements « bro c…come on

[@tierneylogan5943]

It is indeed a marvelous piece of cinema…

[@JP-kk5vw]

"And these boxes here are filled with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. "

[@themc6281]

That reporters leg almost became peanut butter and jelly.

[@jerryseinfield]

And Tang!

[@cjjuddaustralianartist]

I can relate to all this. Very similar to the refrigerator in my kitchen.

[@TheBigley]

Where do they store the batteries, where is the air conditioner, where do they store the breathable oxygen, how do they put on space suits in such limited space, how do they determine altitude when landing???

[@eventcone]

Why not look it up?

[@justcurious7614]

+TheBigley You didn't really expect your questions to be answered in the KZbin comments section did you? You could download a copy of the Lunar Module Familiarization Manual LMA790 Volume 1 which was used by the astronauts themselves to get their heads around the LM and its operation. Wikipedia has some great entries. All you have to do is intone the sacred word G-O-O-G-L-E G-O-O-G-L-E.

[@justcurious7614]

PoloponyAZ16 What about the 3 huge parachutes?

[@37VQV]

Thats not on the LEM thats on the CM

[@justcurious7614]

+37VQV You are a party pooper! PoloponyAZ16 had it all worked out in his mind's eye that everything was in the LM. Why spoil his pet 'unassailable' proof that the Apollo missions were 'obviously' impossible by injecting facts into the discussion?

[@bruce92106]

I thought I'd seen every documentary on Apollo, et al, by now? This one eluded me!? Its very good! See this kiddies, America did all this back on good ol 1960s technology of the day! And engineers scientists and technicians which sadly,, are gone. We seem to have lost a lot of what we had more of back then. Patriotism. Determination. Werner von Braun. Cigarettes! I didn't see the AGC screen on the LEM dashboard?

[@Blackadder75]

you still have those smart people, but they work for google and apple etc. the greater goals seem to be gone.

[@jamesjeson556]

At 13:44, showing hookups for breathing. Did astronauts keep spacesuits on in LEM?

[@eddievhfan1984]

They usually kept them on during early lunar missions, just in case it was necessary to suit up real quick in case of a micrometeroid impact or something like that. Later on, especially during extended lunar missions, they could take their suits off for more comfortably sleeping.

[@jamesjeson556]

Kyle Tekaucic So since they could take suits off, the LEM was pressurized. 15 psi? What percent oxygen? They ate regular food in LEM with suits off I take it. With suits on ate through tube?

[@eddievhfan1984]

@@jamesjeson556 Closer to 5 psi with pure oxygen, same as the CSM. That's enough to keep the astronauts alive without having to use larger tanks and the like. Food's spot-on, mostly. While suited up, the astronauts had access to a potable water bag and fruit bar wrapped in rice paper through the insider of their helmets. There's also a port on the side of the helmets to allow things like drinking tubes to be inserted, but that was rarely used.

[@wesfrazier5739]

I saw a exact replica at Cape Canaveral in the seventies of the LEM, it looked like a movie prop then. It still does.

[@valeriegriner5644]

Yep...and they just spent MILLIONS of DOLLARS in Houston to "recreate" MISSION CONTROL...bragging that they even used the same wallpaper and carpet from the 1960's. WOW! What a great way to spend money(even if it was donation-funded).

[@michaellyne8773]

Nice one.

[@anodine_org]

@@valeriegriner5644 - Nop, they spent MILLIONS of DOLLARS to plant a flag, take a few selfies in front of it and broadcast live the whole show on the whole planet! Seven times in 4 years (with one fail). After two years people was borded so the add a few millions to film a lunar rover rodeo drive 😎🤠 PS: so many millions, what is better a fail or a fake? 🤔🤓

[@wholenutsanddonuts5741]

Only one man on the moon. The other sits in the ship.... waiting? Can you imagine Buzz Aldrin just sitting in the LM and not going out with Armstrong?! Me either!! ;)

[@ReneSchickbauer]

Can you imagine landing on the moon (with all the risks involved) but having to stay inside and not allowed to actually walk on the moon? Me neither. NASA would have had a very tough time to find astronauts willing to do that.

[@anodine_org]

@@ReneSchickbauer - You can imagine landing on the moon? And ... . . . . . . . . just joking. 😂😂😂

[@GerardHammond]

this is so good

[@FortyHumans]

I know eh what a tight show I wish it were resurrected, “MIT Science Reporter 21st Century Edition now 28:38 streaming on NASA tv+ “ That sounds doable

[@blindbrick]

I remember playing astronaut with a vacuum cleaner on my back and a big cylindrical cardboard washing powder box on my head.

[@newforestpixie5297]

blindbrick blindbrick we used the yellow plastic film from around the glass “lucozade” bottles as a visor-and wandered around the school playground in slow-motion . I still think it’s a miracle how only one problem was significant considering the million things which could’ve wrecked the missions ...best wishes to EVERYONE on this site 😀

[@blindbrick]

:-)

[@coffinman5007]

NASA used cardboard too.

[@Jandejongjong]

blindbrick blindbrick Well sounds legit. You had more techno stuff then the Guys on apollomission;)

[@marlinbartel4859]

Mom would give us the dry cleaning bags and say "go play space man".

[@mattc3169]

The glory days of the US space program and Grumman