Starr Forum: Heretic: Why Islam Needs a Reformation Now

[@LisaKinoti]

I love how calm she stays even when being attacked verbally. And her responses are so mature and intelligent. She doesn't get emotional and erratic. 🤔 I could learn a lot from this woman.

[@u82zar]

Ayaan was fierce in there while keeping her composure. So much hate by the audience. Regarding the guy who said he was more American than anyone in there. It is frightening that he is unable to answer the question. It goes to show the mentality.

[@Masowe.]

in islam critising Muhammad is punishable by death so nomatter what, Muslims never openly answer anything negative about him or Allah

[@npatel7775]

The women in hijab is just giving lecture. She is not asking question.

[@beat1riz]

She's blaming it on the "foreign policy" lmao

[@inaaranur1611]

@@beat1riz But She is not a scholar of Islam She only has her experience and that is deeply wrapped in the culture of her people. There is a lot that is conflated with Islam but is actually what people have brought into Islam from their own background and called it Islam. These things are not from the Quran Ex Muslims who do not know Islam any more than an outsider, do much damage spreading misinformation due to their own cultural views FGM for example has nothing to do with Islam ! It is from their own background in African countries and they then in their Own ignorance believe it is from Islam She is an intelligent woman but she is still very ignorant about Islam as her experience of Islam comes from what her own people practiced Before they became Muslim As for her saying 19 men carried out 9** when even Americans know that That was impossible demonstrates her ignorance

[@carmenismyname]

@@inaaranur1611 Abu al- Malih ibn `Usama's father relates that the Prophet said: "Circumcision [الْخِتَانُ - khitan] is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women'." Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75; Abu Dawud, Adab 167. Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision [الْخِتَانُ - khitan] in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: "Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband". Sunan Abu Dawud 41:5251 An old woman from Kufa, the grandmother of 'Ali ibn Ghurab, reported that Umm al-Muhajir said, "I was captured with some girls from Byzantium. 'Uthman offered us Islam, but only myself and one other girl accepted Islam. 'Uthman said, "Go and circumcise [فَاخْفِضُو - khaffad] them and purify them."' Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 53:1245 Etc etc

[@oliknowles7645]

@@inaaranur1611 hahaha. “Ex-muslims are causing damage by spreading misinformation” No buddy. Muslims are doing that themselves

[@kiwitrainguy]

She took 4 minutes and 45 seconds to "ask" her question.

[@jayrosen6663]

She has been my hero, since I first knew of her story!! She has taken an amazing journey!!!!!

[@nmejias370]

The fact that there needs to be an armed security guard behind her, speaks volumes. Great speech as always.

[@henryisotrope2917]

I've never seen Ayaan take on so many hostile questioners at once. She did great. The most bellicose audience members were ones who self identified as Muslim. Irritating grand standers

[@jhljhl6964]

Since Islam is considered the supreme religion, how can it be reformed?

[@jenholmes4033]

All religions believe they are supreme, so get over it! Islam is the worst, closely followed by the Roman Catholic religion

[@jenholmes4033]

Generally I thought the audience were pretty good bearing in mind their age.

[@b.m.t.h.3961]

@@jenholmes4033 At least catholics have evolved and don't kill people if they leave the catholic faith etc many Catholics marry non Catholics with no issues or problems. Catholicism is no where near as bad as islam, not by a long shot.

[@ronaldk.sitlhou2914]

@@b.m.t.h.3961 i agree

[@nutsbutdum]

What a courageous woman!

[@qaarulxiram4077]

Not Even Wrong wat a lier..n ignorant person.

[@baileysnights3479]

interesting that she mentioned the bloggers in Saudi and Bangladesh , its awful that in 21th Century things like that is happening.

[@stj8614]

Watched this many years ago and it’s still just as powerful. Meeting this great lady is definitely on my bucket list the level of strength displayed is hope 👌

[@ryanthornton8038]

It's better for her to teach the ignorant, rather then those who already understand what she is saying. I want more people to get her perspective.

[@AA-ul9qh]

If we're talking adults, one cannot reach the ignorant; they're ignorant because they're not teachable, either because they lack intellectual capacity or because they refuse to learn!

[@FactsOnlyPlease.]

@@AA-ul9qh Or just maybe the knowledge was not readily accessible! In many cases, how do the ignorant know what they do not know!

[@CHAS1422]

Phenomenal! Erudite, coherent, succinct, articulate and persuasive are only a few of the terms I can apply. She is an amazing person and speaker. "Evidence" is the word she used most effectively. Thank you Ayyan for being you. Indeed secular, free, constitutionalism is a fragile thing. We need to be aware of, and in reasoned defense of it's tenets. There are many powerful ideologies that seek to bend those precepts of free culture, to empower their own narratives, or hold dominion over those freedoms altogether.

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

False actually a poor Muslim family in a Christian country Ethiopia with Somali background sending their child to learn in Netherlands to have the ability to help them in their poor colonized Africa then she getaway without saying thank you father or i will take car about my beloved family then the right wing employed her as a tool to mock minority Muslim people in western countries with no degree in Islamic theology bravo good job jourden you are racist

[@CHAS1422]

@@readquranandlearnaboutisla592 Islam is a race? Then Atheism is a race. Islamic Sharia calls for the execution of Atheists only for their beliefs. By that logic Islam is racist.

[@gildamarini623]

I love love her way of thinking and her answers to the questions

[@jenholmes4033]

Let’s hope for the sake of peace, love & empathy Ayaan can make a big difference & inspire & motivate lots of young people

[@StefanBile]

The most infuriating part was how her opponents consistently spoke AT her, as though she is a mere outside scholar of Islam and not someone who lived under it for 34 years.

[@SS-kp7hw]

living under something doesn' make you an unbiased expert.you only ever see your side of it.even a donkey knows that.and these people went to school...?

[@inaaranur1611]

But She is not a scholar of Islam She only has her experience and that is deeply wrapped in the culture of her people. There is a lot that is conflated with Islam but is actually what people have brought into Islam from their own background and called it Islam. These things are not from the Quran Ex Muslims who do not know Islam any more than an outsider, do much damage spreading misinformation due to their own cultural views FGM for example has nothing to do with Islam ! It is from their own background in African countries and they then in their Own ignorance believe it is from Islam She is an intelligent woman but very biased and she is still very ignorant about Islam as her experience of Islam comes from what her own people practiced Before they became Muslim As for her saying 19 men carried out 9** when even Americans know that That was impossible demonstrates her ignorance

[@lahaza6515]

@@SS-kp7hw She lived in it AND she's lived out of it. That's a lot more than most people who talk about it can say. If that isn't enough then exactly what IS enough experience?

[@anaesthesia1549]

@@lahaza6515 She did not live under Islam. She lived under Somali culture practiced by her parents grandparents and the society around her. Many of these practices are against Islamic teaching but for an outside observer , because practitioners are Muslims, these practices appear part of Islam. A searcher of Islam should search it in the scripture ie Quran, not in Muslim behavior which, a lot of time, may not be Islamic at all. As to her living out of Islam, she was never fully in. From the outset she was an opportunist whose aim in life was “to follow American dream” according to her own admission. And in the post-9/11 world there was nothing as shortcut as “exposing” Islam as an insider to gain the attention and sympathy of people of right wing and so called neoconservative political thought. They also needed an articulate figure with a narrative that could help them carry out their geo strategic designs in the Middle East and beyond. So, in a way, her Islam bashing is essential for her to achieve this stardom she is currently enjoying in the West in general and in the US in particular.

[@AC-mp7cx]

shes not a scholar of islam

[@chinkeebiao3978]

My respects to Ayan. You are a voice of reason in these troubled times.

[@anaesthesia1549]

When it comes to Islam Hirsi Ali replies are those of a dishonest cretin.

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

False actually a poor Muslim family in a Christian country Ethiopia with Somali background sending their child to learn in Netherlands to have the ability to help them in their poor colonized Africa then she getaway without saying thank you father or i will take car about my beloved family then the right wing employed her as a tool to mock minority Muslim people in western countries with no degree in Islamic theology bravo good job jourden you are racist

[@blip62]

MIT is the tops....thanks for inviting Aayan

[@MarkSHogan]

The nice young man doesn't know much about the Koran and that may be common and a large part of the problem.

[@adrian14643]

thanks for the upload, this really helped answer questions i had and this woman is awesome, very straight forward w/facts and speaks without emotion.

[@inaaranur1611]

She is not a scholar of Islam She only has her experience and that is deeply wrapped in the culture of her people. There is a lot that is conflated with Islam but is actually what people have brought into Islam from their own background and called it Islam. These things are not from the Quran Ex Muslims who do not know Islam any more than an outsider, do much damage spreading misinformation due to their own cultural views FGM for example has nothing to do with Islam ! Much of what she attributes to Islam is Not in Quran and is a twisted view of Islam in their ignorance It is from their own background in African countries and they then in their Own ignorance believe it is from Islam She is an intelligent woman but she is still very ignorant about Islam as her experience of Islam comes from what her own people practiced Before they became Muslim As for her saying 19 men carried out 9** when even Americans know that That was impossible demonstrates her ignorance

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

False actually a poor Muslim family in a Christian country Ethiopia with Somali background sending their child to learn in Netherlands to have the ability to help them in their poor colonized Africa then she getaway without saying thank you father or i will take car about my beloved family then the right wing employed her as a tool to mock minority Muslim people in western countries with no degree in Islamic theology bravo good job jourden you are racist

[@FactsOnlyPlease.]

@@inaaranur1611 What makes some people so afraid of dealing with reality & true? Does one really have to be an expert / a scholar to state their experiences!

[@cinnamongirl5410]

I love her. I know quite a few Muslims who outwardly go thru the motions.. but inwardly no longer believe.. but they can't tell anyone. It's an awful thing to know especially when some are so young. She is speaking for more people than people know. **She obviously has some angry people dogging her heels though, while consumed with their own self righteousness. (I didn't visit Egypt.. i lived there, and anyone who has knows there is a hell of a drug problem there as well. That is not something belonging only to western nations by far).

[@soso2044]

this Ayaan speaks the truth i was born in such culture and i agree

[@joedias7946]

I am not from a culture that grew this person.i still accept The reasoning of this person. What she saying is better than Islam. I would prefer to submit to her not Allah.

[@davidhynes7850]

One cool lady---The fact that she needs constant protection says it all about Islam.

[@anaesthesia1549]

David Hynes She put entire Muslim community to danger by her lies and is still free. Chelsea Manning truthfully informed about murderous US policies and she is behind the bars. Says it all about American hypocrisy.

[@StefanBile]

@ayoub laarouchi 😭😭

[@LS-td3no]

@@anaesthesia1549 ...And are you not glad we helped to defeat the ISIS caliphate?

[@anaesthesia1549]

L S That’s a laughable claim. Iran and Hezbollah with the help of Russia defeated the ISIS. America and its Middle Eastern allies including Israel resisted Syrian army and its allies - Iran, Hezbollah and Russia. www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-israel-just-admitted-arming-anti-assad-syrian-rebels-big-mistake-1.6894850#article-comments www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/01/trial-swedish-man-accused-terrorism-offences-collapse-bherlin-gildo www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/israels-geopolitical-gut-check www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would--islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/ besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/destruction-islamic-state-strategic-mistake/

[@Mouncefelasri]

@@anaesthesia1549 She said only the truth I confirm all she said as a native Arabic speaking Muslim.

[@davidcayden]

very brave ... I wish there were more like her..

[@pacopaco1943]

This is the bible Exodus 35:2-3 “Work six days, but the seventh day will be a holy rest day, GOD’s holy rest day. Anyone who works on this day must be put to death. Don’t light any fires in your homes on the Sabbath day.”

[@maltazar1011]

@@pacopaco1943 after chistianity reform barely anyone follows the old Testament, we gotta preach love, in a religious reform nothing is written by men, when chistianity was reformed the things that threatens the society and freedom were just taken out of consideration, nothing was added.

[@pacopaco1943]

@@maltazar1011 first with all respect you have no idea what you talking about Bible need tht not Islam do you know when we heard someone's aging this the first thing we think about is who the hell are you to say Islam reform it like go to German and blame everyone for Hitler

[@maltazar1011]

@@pacopaco1943 well I'm not trying to attack anyone's faith, and i know that are a lot of good and peaceful muslims, the issue that creates most of the slamophobia in my view are the explicit things in the quran that promote violence or at least prejudice to apostates, homosexuals, and people how earn their money with sex. Again ,i know not all Muslims are violent or prejudiced ,but taking this topics out off the mainstream understanding of Islam would definitely diminish the fear the western world has with muslim integration in our society. (I don't think islam necessarily propagates misogyny but a lot of people do because of some verses)

[@pacopaco1943]

@@maltazar1011 OK I am sorry but you wrong Bible did that it's not Islam its politics only thing didn't control is Islam they couldn't they want us to surrender in the west that what going on do you watch news does days everything giong wrong look does things you say did see them with you own eyes

[@nishikantdange4924]

Everytime i watch Ayaan she inspires,me by her honesty, braveness and courage to speak truth...n d audience being from MIT..they still don't ACCEPT WHAT IS TRUE...

[@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS]

She is a proven lier. She lied about her story to get refuge status. Poor lady have to keep the ruse going.

[@bishnuchatterjee90]

Just like you won’t accept the innumerable number of things that are wrong with your religion

[@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS]

@@bishnuchatterjee90 what does that have to do with this instance of a lier being exposed? Just because you like what she has to say doesn't mean she can lie about her experience.

[@stoneruler]

@@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS Everyone tells lies in their lives. Are you going to claim you've never lied? She did what she had to do to get out of that situation, not honorable, but neccessary.

[@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS]

@@stoneruler she condemned 2.2 billion ppl. Not they think its okay to murder 2.2 million.

[@arber7486]

More power to you Ayaan!

[@Jesuslily]

To the very pretty Muslim lady with the first question (speech).. please, do go to Iran, Somalia, Pakistan etc. and try to live there for a few years under sharia. Please.. be honest. You want to follow Muhammed. Then go to the countries that really see him as a role model. You enjoy the rights of freedom and egalitarian rights in a country like America based on Judeo-Christian values. Muhammed was not a good man.. please be honest. You are a woman. How can you belong to a ideology whose founder was a ruthless killer, a polygamist, a person who slept with children and had sex slaves. How? Dont equate your american values with the values of the quran and haditth.

[@staples1204]

Who ever said Iran follows Muhammad?

[@jameslow2780]

In my opinion ,any set of thoughts/ideas or value system need to change or progress in accordance with present time in order to improve. Otherwise, it becomes out of date.or obsolete.

[@martinsesama3462]

Ayan is a legend. She has the ball of steel.... It's so sad that even MIT students who are supposed to be rational are hostile to rationality.

[@kashlolong2641]

I used to hate her but not anymore. I hated her past but she has moved me now. Truth shall prevail!

[@emmae9924]

Kash Lolong What's changed within you?

[@madhavi108]

Kash Lolong why would any decent person ever hate her?

[@aminereba]

@@madhavi108 because she is a religious demagogue. If she debates a real Islam expert, she will sink.

[@amallukose1485]

@@aminereba yet she still prevail

[@joelschama1735]

I cannot believe that after all Aayan has been through the first student told her what she thought she needed. As an atheist myself since birth I have never once yearned for a higher being because we all create our own meaning in this one life and that is all we need. I feel very bad for Aayan having to deal with Islamic pushback to seek an imagined mythos of a supreme overlord when she just spoke about the importance of escaping just that very same type of indoctrinated slavery. 😢 😡

[@FactsOnlyPlease.]

Believe what you may, but one chooses to be atheists! BTW just as you did not choose to be born, you do not get to compartmentalize a concept / an existence of great importance that preceded you, whether you accept it or not!

[@divyankpandey3431]

Ayaan is a true gem❤️🙏🏻

[@razzhernandez6772]

It is impossible to reform the un reformable.

[@iainrae6159]

Perhaps, but worth debating. The Catholic church lost much of its power after the reformation.

[@coolDude-fc7kl]

Islam is very conservative. It needs to be secularized

[@Drewtazy]

People say how Christianity has done terrible things (which is true) but you can't compare crusades in the 12th century to Islam in 2015-it shows how little reformation there has been in Islam compared to Christianity.we have moved on from the Middle Ages and have NO need to follow any religion-let alone one as barbaric and backward as Islam

[@staples1204]

Christianity hasn't been reformed, it simply died.

[@adrianmajoros5409]

@@staples1204 That´s why it is the most popular religion with more than 2.4 billion christians all around the world? Strange logic...

[@1nf0calypse]

Islam does not need a reformation, it needs an enlightenment. What we are experiencing right now, that backward, literal interpretation of Islam is a reformation. A reformation is about revisiting the roots and basic tenets of religion, enlightenment is about the role of ideas, ideologies and religion within civil society.

[@majimoto75]

Love you Ayaan. You are the greatest !!

[@amallukose1485]

Such beautiful presentation, clam and straight to the point. Big problem that i have with these modern muslims are they are more concerned with the image of Islam, than addressing the problem.

[@brian-us6vw]

MIT accepts stupid students with a good grade and a boring prof? Poor Ayaan Hirsi

[@brian-us6vw]

@corretor647 Looking at the standards of students... no lol.

[@TrianandaTjan]

Amazing Ayaan,very controlled emotion WOW just WOW.

[@abukhamis9329]

QURAN QUOTES :- 32. They want to extinguish God’s light with their mouths, but God refuses except to complete His light, even though the disbelievers dislike it. 33. It is He who sent His Messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, in order to make it prevail over all religions, even though the idolaters dislike it....

[@jmvs5294]

the true religion of truth doesn’t have to kill anyone to be in power

[@jayrosen6663]

When extremism enters any religion, it's time for a Reformation!! When organized religion was given too much power, we got The Dark Ages!! No rational person wants to go back to that!! At least, I hope not!!!

[@hermithefrog629]

Sura 16:15 : And He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and rivers and roads; that ye may guide yourselves; Sura 21:31 : And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive Guidance. Sura 31:10 : He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; Mountains do not in any way stop earthquakes. Mountains are in fact the result of the same tectonic movements that cause earthquakes. So if anything, earthquakes cause mountains.

[@imotherearthxoxoxo2949]

such a brilliant person!

[@Laser82]

She lies about most of her former life and she later admitted she lied about most of her early life in an interview. She is a sick individual riding on the backs of tru refugee's. She discuss me.

[@inaaranur1611]

But She is not a scholar of Islam She only has her experience and that is deeply wrapped in the culture of her people. There is a lot that is conflated with Islam but is actually what people have brought into Islam from their own background and called it Islam. These things are not from the Quran Ex Muslims who do not know Islam any more than an outsider, do much damage spreading misinformation due to their own cultural views FGM for example has nothing to do with Islam ! It is from their own background in African countries and they then in their Own ignorance believe it is from Islam She is an intelligent woman but she is still very ignorant about Islam as her experience of Islam comes from what her own people practiced Before they became Muslim As for her saying 19 men carried out 9** when even Americans know that That was impossible demonstrates her ignorance

[@thetruthorossa118]

One of the best people for intelligent and how she delivers this lady will go down in history as one of the best people in are history hope USA gets behind her ideas for everything that we value

[@kdas2223]

We need 1000 ayans in every city of world.

[@gilbertotejeda3964]

These young students are no rival to the lecturer. Neither of them.

[@chrisg307]

As a moderator, Mr. Tiermann (sp) is past his 'sell by' date; not much help in question control. Also, seriously disheartening to see 'the best minds of a generation' students full of rancor and not at all common sense; bullies all. I wish I had her equanimity, intelligence and grace under pressure.

[@Nina-sg3ho]

The audience lol "I am not interested in that" when the hijabi was delivering a speech ...:)

[@bishnuchatterjee90]

That was extremely rude though

[@joedias7946]

Who cares if you don't hear or Listen to a woman. I hope you Listen to a woman does not wear a hijab and interesting..

[@prashantshastry6877]

That's Powerful 👍👍👍

[@naazk2031]

Keep fighting for what you believe, we r with you.

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

False actually a poor Muslim family in a Christian country Ethiopia with Somali background sending their child to learn in Netherlands to have the ability to help them in their poor colonized Africa then she getaway without saying thank you father or i will take car about my beloved family then the right wing employed her as a tool to mock minority Muslim people in western countries with no degree in Islamic theology bravo good job jourden you are racist

[@lahaza6515]

The security guard was like "finally, something I want to hear more about." He was probably old enough to remember 911 & may have even been in the city that day.

[@Drewtazy]

How do Moslems answers this question? ,” Will you take out certain verses in the Quran or do you accept the Quran in its entirety ? “

[@staples1204]

We say "we will not and cannot take out any verses nor would we like to."

[@aminereba]

@@staples1204 The reason is that the Quran is the only book in history that no one has been able to contradict and is valid for eternity. Just learn to understand it. That is why of the list of converts there are those who hated Islam and created a political party to destroy Muslims but after reading the book, they converted to Islam, in Netherland and Germany. But I have to agree that in some countries, local culture and Islam mixed and that is what created these confusions, on which Ayann feeds herself.

[@humanrace6224]

@@aminereba there are different version of quran

[@carmenismyname]

@@aminereba hmm you sure about that ?? Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. .... Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom." (Qur'an 18:86-90). And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit. Quran 21:33 It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed. Quran 25:53 Etc etc

[@farheenshanilshah7804]

after 4 years of growing islamism and radical islamist we see 12 journalist open fired (Charlie Albedo drawing cartoon of prophet) ;i can confirm religion grows intolarance in its follwet

[@stevewildeagle965]

What a Heroine for common sense and decency, and ultimately Love amongst Islam she is. Shame the indoctrinated and blind, will Always follow the easier path, rather than follow her along the path less travelled.

[@SS-kp7hw]

she is a coward...her stratospheric rise has only been allowed because she denounces what the West love to hear

[@xtrajently]

"I'm from Boston and I don't kill people! Got you!"

[@marziehmazloumi8275]

Ayaan is amazing.

[@usmanyarima4825]

Ayaan, may God guide you to the right path.

[@cedricmissonnier]

Not the Islam God for sure

[@osirismalu3394]

felicitation mademoiselle

[@enso7890]

Incredible poise, eloquence and courage.

[@Laser82]

She's the biggest lier going!! She never feed a civil war and she was caught on camera admitting it.

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

False actually a poor Muslim family in a Christian country Ethiopia with Somali background sending their child to learn in Netherlands to have the ability to help them in their poor colonized Africa then she getaway without saying thank you father or i will take car about my beloved family then the right wing employed her as a tool to mock minority Muslim people in western countries with no degree in Islamic theology bravo good job jourden you are racist

[@AC-mp7cx]

sure

[@blackbird6330]

We all need to study more and speak up more

[@staples1204]

You're right abou that!

[@RUSure-jm9rp]

The situation of the blogger that was jailed in Arabia sounds just like what the U.S. along with the U.k. with the help of Sweden, is doing to Julian Assange. All three are so called modern secular countries.

[@hdakahidef]

Good point

[@gtkrk9539]

She definitely is not "controversial". She is absolutely up to the point. And correct. "Controversial" - read stupid - are her critics, including most of the intellectuals and politicians of our times.

[@sandhu7909]

Okay so I was thinking about writing a comment on how most Muslims in the room and being defensive to Ayaan BUT I think this is what Ayaan and everyone like her wants. Ayaan wants to stir the hard conversation between Muslims, as in what's wrong with Islam! People always get offended, like mostly Muslims did in the room, when someone speaks against something they love whether it be relegion or anything else. It is something similar with comedy these days. A comedian can make all kinds of jokes in his set but when a joke cracks up about something people hold dear to, they get offended. For eg: No one gets offended to holocaust jokes now! Because one who personally experienced it, is not listening to the jokes. But if you joke about gender or any sensitive topic people loose their minds!

[@shatest8920]

The problem might be tolerance .intolerence creates violence

[@iainrae6159]

Nothing religious clerics fear more than a beautiful educated woman, who employs rational enquiry and critical thinking to demolish priests deluded man made supernatural religious claims and dogma.

[@cedricmissonnier]

What strange questions from some of the public... They seem to not be a fan of critical thinking.

[@Philip-bk2dm]

I object to the term 'the best and brightest.' I know too many intelligent people who can hardly be classified as 'best', unless it is wealth and privilege that defines them as such.

[@steveadams9289]

Her words have made me read the entire Quran and Hadees and specially after Medina Once I have done that I will once again bring out points with more precise thoughts As she has two main points the various groups and Muhammad after Medina

[@heisenberg9739]

It's good you go straight to the source. But you need to understand it too. This may be a little difficult for you. She thinks we worship Muhammad. We don't. We worship one God that's it.

[@michaelweber5702]

I thought the 26 yr. old man who wouldn't answer ( the second 'questioner' ) is a good example of the thin skinned , easily offended person that is so concerning to freedom loving citizens or subjects in the West...

[@Abby.A9959]

Many love Ayaan because she can speak well and projects the "idea" (to those similar to herself who are against a certain religion/race) that she is an expert on that subject matter. It is obvious that she has made a career out of agressively criticizing a religion/people from many many countries that she has never been to, with much bias and has painted 2 billion people from this faith, regardless of nationality or race, with the same "brush across the board" - and sadly has acquired fame and fortune out of it too. A bit odd, I dare think! That if she is happy to have left it, then why not just move on and live your life? But then the money and fame would not have rolled in that easily!The information that she releases regarding this subject matter is mostly distorted and based on many half- truths as well. However, she has acquired the "art" of being able to speak well and captures a blind following of many, who choose to ignore her shady past and rise to fame and fortune, at the expense of many innocents, especially refugees of war torn countries who are desperately seeking asylum! We've reached the times- where people are in awe of someone who is teaching hate and prejudice at the expense of humanity!

[@ImmigrantsRus]

Very well said. I noticed that she often accuses Muslims of "victsmhood" while she herself built an empire out of victimhood. It's all about money, she found a niche and surrounded herself nodding zombies with preconceived bigotory.about islam and who will never question her.

[@sawedoffshoddy9488]

Wow! Look at what famous people in history have said about the prophet Muhammad (may Allahs peace and blessings be upon Him) what has she done besides gain recognition off controversial issues. Bernard Shaw, Napoleon Bonaparte, Ghandi, the list goes on.

[@harveyking5038]

muslims will never like her. cant believe shes still alive.

[@Irene-m9n8b]

A great presentation by madam. And yet ideologies can not be reformed.But one can reject them and adopt more humane ideology. An individual or a small group of people can do it. But 57 nations or any one of them can do it, is highly improbable.

[@milvassilatos3525]

It is surprising that within the walls of one of the top ranking technology and science research universities, people may spend so much time and energy debating passionately about religious matters. Religion is neither science nor philosophy as philosophy historically (originally) encompasses all bodies of knowledge. In the twentieth century philosophers generally no longer raise questions about God. Religion, provided the scriptures (any scripture) are taken at face value, conveys fundamental scientific and historic inaccuracies. I understand that to some people religion is a ''cultural thing'', and there is nothing wrong with that. If religion is only valid as a ''cultural element'' into which some people find comfort, why spend time and energy debating the veracity of Scriptures claiming being God's revelation. Why not study religions, within such an academic environment, as a field of comparative, objective secular investigation. In doing so, why limit ourselves to the Abrahamic religions. Several people in this debate proudly claimed being Americans. Why not study, also, the numerous Native American religions and myths.

[@KrishnaBhat1988]

1:17:35 - that's how a butt hurt looks like!

[@tylerdurden2832]

Her response was amazing

[@ajaohadiyat4269]

The first contributor had done Ayaan eloquently and correctly. Listen to her.

[@kevincloar2443]

The lady who made a whole long irrelevant speech instead of asking a question

[@abdulkadirhussein5796]

Ayan hirsi her face to change before everything

[@ayseltoksoz5698]

Ayaan ❤

[@jeffburnham3117]

A reform of Islam would be nice, the Quran however is a book that has existed in heaven for ever, created by Allah and passed to Mohammad by the Angel Gabriel. - So devout Muslims believe! Reform of that is obviously impossible, unless we could get in touch with Allah and ask him to retract his teachings and commands. Ayaan is truly a wonderful woman ♥️

[@seanjohn3226]

Are all the students in the callege Muslims?

[@markxseng9626]

Religion is from God to human being revealed by a prophet, and only a prophet has authority on what is from God, which mean reformation is impossible

[@conniead5206]

I suggest you look up the definition of religion.

[@Alun49]

So many very poorly constructed questions from the audience. I do not insist that they agree with her, but I am disappointed at the poor quality of the questions she had to field.

[@roberthvistendahl8635]

Do I need to write? Here?

[@aveeplanet7268]

No. It needs to go. Ban it.

[@joelschama1735]

No, Richard Dawkins NEVER said secularists killed more people than the religious. He's not that stupid.

[@wescolumbus621]

MIT is so fortunate to have had someone like Ayaan come to talk, share her insightful knowledge, grace and patience. Any Ivy League U should should go out of its recent way to engage high-caliber thinkers with the intellect and experience like Ayaan's to spread level-headed liberalism and rehab the deeply concerning faux-liberalism which is threatening free, critical thought within the academy. Though opposite side of the idiotic Race coin, the CRT and Submission cocktail is similar to the spread of the shallow, idiotic and, eventually, tragic 19th century German Arian-Semitic Race "Theory." Q is can we still avert another shallow-thought unfolding of a "banality of evil?"

[@jefftube58]

Reforming Islam will still leave you with Islam - the religion to nowhere.

[@ARmohammed1445]

Why she's is so obsessed about the reformation of islam, it ain't gonna happen not now not ever.

[@gildamarini623]

Well, there are some Islamic terrorized between those refuges, and also what guarantee that those refugees will keep Americans value without trying changing the western value to Islamic value and trying to bring the sharia law and all these evil values to the west.

[@sv4527]

Hope the Christians don't want to bring back the crusade era. Hope everyone learns from history and don't repeat the same mistakes . What did not work then , will definitely not work now.

[@Saidoromo2024]

I wish ayaan can come to Minneapolis Somalia

[@belindaelisa5618]

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[@karenlowe4412]

Our young women need her example of what it means to be a woman.

[@jonilarsen-haikarainen8733]

The world needs more people like Ayaan!

[@AC-mp7cx]

no it doesnt

[@spearhead5940]

yes,it does without a doubt caring no damn about who don't !

[@tasniacho26]

I read this as: Why Muslims need reformation now I understand why you make the arguments that you do and I can see why you'd hold your stance but I think this title is incredibly misleading and is just playing the game of enticing and engaging content to the detriment of a suggestion of way of life (Islam) that is incredibly nuanced, adopted by incredibly nuanced followers or submitters or members etc... thank god for free will! I hope you find a sense of peace and contentment in your life

[@justjustjustify]

her knowledge of Islam is only one side of the coin, she does not know what Islam and Prophet himself suffered from the people who were around him , and what they did to his family by hijacking the religion

[@emmae9924]

justjustjustify alright, but the point is it's 2017 and it's religious norms today

[@marcusgarvey9726]

justjustjustify prophet is the most dangerous man ever the creation of humanbeings /6 year granddaughter as wife the man is sick and his god is a monster and Islam is a nonsense and no logic backwardness and brainwashing Muslims to hate

[@ravisukdeo4014]

👁

[@KyriaNunNuit]

If that woman giving that speech of hers, who was basically just agrandizing herself and filibustering for 95% of the time had listened at all to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, she would have heard that Ayaan supports all Muslims who strive for honest change within their communities. Instead, she came at her with the same closed-minded, belittling attitude that all believers the world over have, who think they have found the only right and proper and true faith. Namely, that Ayaan's purportedly still being "lost" and "hungering" and "searching" is the only reason why she is not a believer yet and puts forward facts that challenge her belief. It is sickening to see that such a lack of open-mindedness and clarity and such selfish self-elevation and bias is present in what Ayaan so politely and graciously lauded as "the best of the best" of academia. What a bitter disappointment some of those questions must have been to her. If so e of 5gesr people ate an example of America's brightest minds, the situation is far more dire even than Ayaan has pointed out.

[@AA-ul9qh]

With religion having been their salvation (to their minds), the convert, especially if from a tough/ unpleasant background, is always far more of a religious zealot. & Sadly, that is why extremist Islam is able to recruit from the West's disenfranchised & neglected youth.

[@MrJahan71]

Who is paying your money to fight against Islam

[@almostafa4725]

Zionists

[@marvelfan2514]

God

[@roberthvistendahl8635]

Aayan is going to succeed in her dreams

[@hdakahidef]

That old man was on point

[@TheBelegur]

While I think all reasonable people can agree that the barbaric ideology known as Islam needs reform. I sincerely doubt Islam can be reformed. There is nothing in any of their teachings that are remotely like the teachings of Jesus Christ. This is to say there is no sermon on the mount, nothing about love your neighbor as yourself or pray for your enemies. So, on what foundation would Islam be reformed?

[@sadiamohamed8485]

You don’t know what you are saying

[@TheBelegur]

@@sadiamohamed8485 So, tell me based on what teachings can Islam be reformed.

[@johnforeman634]

The guy who’s more American than anyone in the room? What an incredibly stupid thing to say. Years have gone by so I’m sure he must cringe at the fact that the younger him said that. Because, of course, he is not. No where near.

[@RUSure-jm9rp]

You say Islam is violent. Please show me a religion, a country, a secular society or a group that is an example of peace to compare it to.

[@gardenerr.o.m7828]

She don't have respect for this intellectual group, did she said school?😑why she doesn't let American Muslim to voice up , and she give answer which not related with the question. Please have respect for the group, I don't think of she so brilliant and run for qualification examination to enter MIT, I believe she won't pass, if a person judge you by your age, the person doesn't respect for you and looking down on yourself. Here lies Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the person who loss her identity and take religion as the cause of her can't live freely and take western lifestyle as her God and religion, she also make money based upon fake statement, lies and false accusation towards other religion. Hope everyone knows why she ran from Netherlands. She will do again this time in the states ,also a bonus by importing person like herself and her culture, and her immorality disgusting ideology.