Mixing Analog Drums with Outboard Gear

In this video I mix down 12 drum tracks to a stereo mix with a few pieces of outboard gear and no plug ins. Yep, Outboard only! you will hear that a select few pieces of outboard gear applied lightly to these tracks creates a full, punchy, Drum Mix without having to stack a dozen Plug ins on each track.
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Steve

[@55jemmz5]

You just taught me so much. Thank you.

[@anthonyellis5517]

Absolutely fantastic , thank you for your videos, subscribed

[@MadACeTeeMack]

Awesome watch and the best I've seen on KZbin ❤❤❤

[@BeatsImmortal]

Thanks for all the great content. I really enjoy watching your process and learning some stuff. Keep em coming :-)

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thanks man I really appreciate it!

[@mrsayang]

That is really a great help, to watch you working. Nice work flow. I like your drum sound very much. I still have a TASCAM Model24 mixing desk for my drums, but I want to go for analog outboard gear (mic preamps, mono comps, EQ´s and 1 bus comp) in a rack and some parts in a 500 series lunchbox, combined with a Universal Audio x16 and Logic Pro. Great to see that kick and snare compression works great with the DBX 160, makes me confident to buy the DBX 560 comp for my kick and snare. I will check out more of your videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@TimOost]

Awesome to watch and to learn! I will try this workflow on a multitrack. What an incredible studio you have but it seems the real big thing here is the quality of the recording. With just a few moves you made it sound so good! Very interesting to hear and watch you work

[@inakihernandez2554]

Wow man! Amazing! I have never seen someone go through their mix+workflow the way you did. Please keep up the good work!

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thank you so much!!!

[@UdayDutt]

Wow man! Great👍 helpful for even a beginner👍 keep uploading more👏🏻🙏🏻

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thanks you I will put more up!

[@JMCarita]

Great drum sound. Congratulations Steve!!!!

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thanks Joao!

[@Blissy28]

Huge Drum Sound! Great thinking regarding the top down compression on drums! and Great sounding Kit

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thank you, I’ve been doing the top down approach for a while sometimes I don’t feel the need for any more compression on the drums after dialing in the drumbuss compressor. It depends on the song.

[@RaulCerna]

Great video Steve! Keep it up!

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thanks Raul!

[@ivangil-silva2044]

This man is a genius

[@malcolmpalm]

Great mix review, as always. The console EQ low-end boost sounds nice and fat. I like what the Xfilter is doing on the mixbus too.

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Yea for sure that console we low end is Inductor based I really like it on kick, bass, and guitars. I love Eylsia!

[@malcolmpalm]

@@RiotHomeRecording ((Googling inductor based EQs))

[@saintjames7387]

this is how music is supposed to sound. phenomenal.

[@leo_brum]

Everybody should watch this

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thanks Leo

[@schance1666]

hey bud, great vid!! i liked the format of it and how you walked us through what you were doing. drums sound dang good. and... yay faders, buttons and knobs!!! I was wondering if you were gonna pull the kick-trick on the pultech; thick for sure - sounded great. And that xFilter kills it, too. Looking forward to the upcoming vids you mentioned.

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thanks Flynn, I bought couple new pieces to help make the video making process easier including a stand alone High Definition recorder to assure all audio samples you hear on the video will be direct feed. This was my first time using it. It definitely made the process easier. I’m still waiting on my better camera but it won’t be too long before I get it. Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it. More vids will be posted soon. Steve

[@nicolatorri6325]

I am a rock drum player , awesome good job , very cute

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thank you

[@daddydanny5588]

great ... i love yr mixing desk its awesome

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Me too, Thanks Daddy!

[@buddhikachathuranga9202]

Hello Steve! this is cool man.love it.I would like to know what was the console been mixing with????

[@jeandista]

COOL video. What would you do next? Print the whole stereo DRUM MIX to the DAW, right? Would you do any automation manually while printing (VCA, reverb send etcc)? It would cool to see the next part...

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Thank Gianluca, I have other videos up with me explaining how I automate faders during a final print, how I apply verb, etc... this was just a quick drum mix demo. Thanks Again Steve

[@julianpedro3215]

Steve, I have a tascam m50 with 12 channel and 8 bus. The compressor and reverb effect, where I put? in the same buses right and left of 12 track drums or another two bus apart? thanks!

[@STUDIOONE229]

Barefoot speaker and atc 😉👍🙏

[@julianpedro3215]

Wath reverb use? Excellent soud!

[@robloyst4514]

How the heck are you getting kick and snare to punch so much? I can’t get any drum vsti to punch that much!

[@Paul_Hinton]

Awesome, thank you Steve. Is the reverb being sent from the whole kit including the kick? Sounds warm!

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Yes I have an Aux send set up that I can dial in the verb to each track as wet or dry as I want, then I have a stereo return from the verb coming back to two channels of my console that I have panned hard Left & Right. I can then ride the return faders up & down during different parts of the song to add more or less ambients with the verb. Thanks again Paul!

[@Paul_Hinton]

@@RiotHomeRecording thank you 🙏

[@dunbinhad]

I have a question for you about your Allen smart compressor. I have one and am interested how you have the side chain buttons pressed in. Do you have a cable plugged into the side chain in the back? How are you using the side chain? Thanks man love your videos and your channel. Very cool and helpful.

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Yes I have the Y cables that hipass at a fixed 150hz. I always leave it engaged.

[@dunbinhad]

Sweet thanks man.

[@STUDIOONE229]

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[@brianmclendon1647]

Love your drum sound man, how do you keep the cymbals from being splashy and harsh? Is it the 1272’s being dark, the player, cymbal type, mic used or EQ? If it’s a combination of all which contributes most to the sound your getting?

[@RiotHomeRecording]

I would say yes everything plays a part in the sound of what your hearing on the overheads. There is no eq on these particular overheads. What I think is very important is the way they’re mixed with the rest of the kit. Once that’s right it will help combat that splashy sound you’re talking about.

[@RiotHomeRecording]

And yes I prefer the 1272’s on overheads and that’s what I use 90 % of the time. They’re just so fat & warm. It doesn’t just make the cymbals sound great but the entire kit.

[@e.apollis2877]

would like to know how a diital mixer would sound in this regard

[@380stroker]

Do you keep the overall mix hitting 0vu at the master bus?

[@tpiper1021]

2500 parallel or on the drum group? Sounds killer

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Yes it is on the DrumBuss I’m returning it to a pair of channels that are hard panned left & right. I then mix the compressed drumbuss with the other drum tracks to taste. Thank you

[@TheZacharyMartinShow]

Analogue is so much better

[@Mixingmachine774]

did you use parallel processing ?

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Yes the api 2500 is on Drum Buss being returned to channel 25 & 26 those faders are blended back in to the drum mix for parallel processing. 4:15

[@Mixingmachine774]

thank you .I think If you make live mixing videos with your console people can watch your videos more. rock mixing or pop mixing videos etc but that's my opinion .

[@robloyst4514]

Are you using software gates?

[@RiotHomeRecording]

Waves SSL Channel!!!

[@Rhuggins]

What console is this?

[@RiotHomeRecording]

1976 mci 428 Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l17co5JrnLGajqs

[@modernmabuse]

Is this how 90s eurodance songs were arranged?

[@JulienRaynaud-ie8qg]

You a

[@brianmclendon1647]

Dude those cymbals sound beautiful, did you do anything to keep the harshness down or is it just the cymbals you used?

[@RiotHomeRecording]

This session was a while back. I remember I used a pair of Akg 451e’s from the 70’s into a pair of old Neve 1272’s. No compression or eq.