Miyamoto Iori VS Saber | Fate/Samurai Remnant

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@phongimist4977
@phongimist4977 Жыл бұрын
For real, Iori might be one of the strongest Masters in the Fate franchise, man have been keeping up his own with many Servants, fight alongside and against them almost on equal terms. Even using a Noble Phantasm with two swords to defeat his master's counterpart. What a beast.
@justayoutuber502
@justayoutuber502 Жыл бұрын
Mind you, this Iori was trained by the two greatest swordmasters of the time, both Miyamoto Musashi and Sasaki Kojiro, he truly is one of the if not strongest living swordmasters in his time.
@iskandaraslar-pf3iv
@iskandaraslar-pf3iv Жыл бұрын
Iori has been train under musashi like of course if human musashi could keep up and kill multiple servant same goes to iori
@MrNone-d5s
@MrNone-d5s Жыл бұрын
This is what i have been thinking
@10001vader
@10001vader Жыл бұрын
@nameunknown8441 Even if she *could* be a grand servant, I'm pretty sure you need to be summoned *as* a grand servant to get that level of power.
@qstar1237
@qstar1237 11 ай бұрын
@nameunknown8441 technically speaking female Masashi cannot ever be a grand saber candidate since she. kinda exist outside of time and thus can never achieve the age or fame needed to ascend. Also because of some other stuff that I won't spoil. The male Masashi could possibly be grand saber though.
@soralight_x
@soralight_x Жыл бұрын
Given the circumstance of this boss battle, it would had made more sense to had made Saber Playable & Iori be the Boss instead.
@алексейпугачев-л9й
@алексейпугачев-л9й Жыл бұрын
You not wrong.......theme wise Iori is an evil one here that needs to be stopped but gameplay vise this fight would not be epic if we played it from Saber's perspective.......
@marcusvinicius3298
@marcusvinicius3298 Жыл бұрын
@@алексейпугачев-л9й Tbf, Iori by this point in the game is so freakish strong that it would actually be a real challenge even if we fought him as Saber. Void stance is disgustingly OP.
@Ozzieapologist
@Ozzieapologist 11 ай бұрын
On the other hand, it was your decision as the player that brought Iori to this outcome. It’s fitting that you experience the consequences from his perspective. Going against Saber was your choice just as much as it was his.
@gee_kaz
@gee_kaz 10 ай бұрын
@@OzzieapologistI think you’re right but for me i can’t stand the “winning in game, but losing in cutscene trope” lol. Idk maybe they could make two different outcome and like a decision on which character you want to use in the final battle
@ideal5535
@ideal5535 7 ай бұрын
For the person reading this message I hope you are doing good, I want to share this in a lot of comment sections so it can reach everyone possible including you so please read until the end: God loves you a lot and he wants you to be saved and happy, nothing in this world like money, fun or popularity can fill the emptiness in your heart, only his son Jesus who died for you can fill you who might not nothing know about him. He knows you more than yourself. You who turned your back to him, he is still waiting for you with his arms open to receive you again. You who fought against him and have done things that are unforgivable in your eyes, he will always see you as his son and he already paid the price for all your sins. Even if the world doesn’t forgive you, all that you need is God and everything will be alright, so trust God and no one else. Repent from your sins and never go back to them, and the most important thing is that you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior with your voice and your heart, when you do all these things, pray to God and read the Bible(Christian Bible not a Catholic since the Catholic one might’ve changed the word of God to something that it is not God’s word but men’s, so read a christian Bible) so that you get to know God. Follow it’s word completely, because some people might say that the times and things have changed, but God never changes, the Bible says that the heavens and earth will pass but his word will never pass and that means that the things God didn’t like back then he still doesn’t like today. So don’t let anyone tell you that now you can have sex before marriage or something like that just because everyone does it, because the Bible says that wide is the path to destruction and many walk through it. When you pray, ask God to guide you so that you always walk in his righteousness and so that he gives you strength so you don’t fall to sin, and don’t just say I am a Christian and never read your bible or end up not praying because being a follower of God means building a father and son-daughter relationship with him. Fast and pray and be his son not only in words but also in your actions. Today God has showed grace to you who might be depressed, empty, are being hated or hates, or maybe you don’t receive genuine love this is even for you who enjoys or is comfortable with your current life. Whoever you who is reading this is, know that God is calling you to give you a future and a hope in this life and in the eternal life. Trust him, because he loves you so much that is beyond understanding, and the time is short. After you finish reading this message you might die or Jesus might return, so be ready and follow him, for today he stretched his hand to you because he loves you and cares for you and he doesn’t want you to go to hell, so please go to him, it will be hard because living for God means denying yourself and the things that you might like, but it will be the best decision you will make in your entire existence and I promise you it will be worth more than any of the things that you don’t want to let go of. Make the right choice, because today God has stretched his hand to you who he loves so much that he even died for knowing all the bad things you have done. That is how much love he has and will always have for you. I don’t know you but you might be going through hard times, so keep these words in mind that God gives hope to the hopeless and he heals any wounds including the ones from the heart, and he can do the same for you regardless of anything. Thank you for reading, God bless you always❤️
@kieranwrightstone2199
@kieranwrightstone2199 Жыл бұрын
Have to say Iori could have turned out like Kirei with this ending, before the Waxing Moon Ritual the only thing keeping him going off the deep end. The log book outright stating that and he generally could love and form friendships yet was second to his desire to master the sword, yet his sword philosophy was to understand others to cut them down at anytime. The new game plus route I feel is him as he said, letting go of the excess and embracing his inner self more. With this ending letting go of everything and deciding to plunge Japan in war over the Grail to have an era to have a life he could flourish in the ‘right age’, failing cause as Saber pointed out he didn’t truly understand them. Dying to a single thrust while expecting a Noble Phantasm. Saber during this route expected this outcome I would say around when he finally cut off the excess and wasn’t surprised when he revealed his true goals, but didn’t want for this to happen. Iori in the end died lamenting he couldn’t adjust to a peaceful era, but found solace in dying and considered Saber a friend. Still in the end he left Kaya alone, perhaps for the best she didn’t know what her brother would have done. Looking as I unlocked this ending first for new game plus and than Flames of Resentment afterwards I think unlike Kirei he comes to while accepting his true nature never embraces it completely and accepts being in the wrong area while accepting to destroy the Grail. I think the Flames of Resentment’s ending on the new game plus route best exemplifies that, smiling while carrying Kaya as a new day dawns and he returns to a normal life with her safe. While probably still frustrated at the conditions of a peaceful existence, growing to tolerate it more if it will keep those he cares about safe and probably find opportunities considering how much he has grown in the war. Maybe there will be more details when the DLC episodes release, but we will see.
@Jame-zz4tu
@Jame-zz4tu Жыл бұрын
I hope DLC expand on normal ending more. Of course Waxing moon already end but somehow it only route that we don't see aftermatch of the war
@deyvantwo5426
@deyvantwo5426 Жыл бұрын
Haku pfp spotted
@orrthehunter
@orrthehunter 10 ай бұрын
@@Jame-zz4tu Well we got something like that now but in Fate/Grand Order. The Fate/SR event for Fate/GO is a direct continuation of the Bad Ending route storyline showing the consequences of Iori's wish in the Bad ending here.
@anghainguyen9951
@anghainguyen9951 9 ай бұрын
​​@@orrthehunterwell can said his wish come true since he can fight fucking Earth- chan and the ORT..😢.
@ideal5535
@ideal5535 7 ай бұрын
For the person reading this message I hope you are doing good, I want to share this in a lot of comment sections so it can reach everyone possible including you so please read until the end: God loves you a lot and he wants you to be saved and happy, nothing in this world like money, fun or popularity can fill the emptiness in your heart, only his son Jesus who died for you can fill you who might not nothing know about him. He knows you more than yourself. You who turned your back to him, he is still waiting for you with his arms open to receive you again. You who fought against him and have done things that are unforgivable in your eyes, he will always see you as his son and he already paid the price for all your sins. Even if the world doesn’t forgive you, all that you need is God and everything will be alright, so trust God and no one else. Repent from your sins and never go back to them, and the most important thing is that you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior with your voice and your heart, when you do all these things, pray to God and read the Bible(Christian Bible not a Catholic since the Catholic one might’ve changed the word of God to something that it is not God’s word but men’s, so read a christian Bible) so that you get to know God. Follow it’s word completely, because some people might say that the times and things have changed, but God never changes, the Bible says that the heavens and earth will pass but his word will never pass and that means that the things God didn’t like back then he still doesn’t like today. So don’t let anyone tell you that now you can have sex before marriage or something like that just because everyone does it, because the Bible says that wide is the path to destruction and many walk through it. When you pray, ask God to guide you so that you always walk in his righteousness and so that he gives you strength so you don’t fall to sin, and don’t just say I am a Christian and never read your bible or end up not praying because being a follower of God means building a father and son-daughter relationship with him. Fast and pray and be his son not only in words but also in your actions. Today God has showed grace to you who might be depressed, empty, are being hated or hates, or maybe you don’t receive genuine love this is even for you who enjoys or is comfortable with your current life. Whoever you who is reading this is, know that God is calling you to give you a future and a hope in this life and in the eternal life. Trust him, because he loves you so much that is beyond understanding, and the time is short. After you finish reading this message you might die or Jesus might return, so be ready and follow him, for today he stretched his hand to you because he loves you and cares for you and he doesn’t want you to go to hell, so please go to him, it will be hard because living for God means denying yourself and the things that you might like, but it will be the best decision you will make in your entire existence and I promise you it will be worth more than any of the things that you don’t want to let go of. Make the right choice, because today God has stretched his hand to you who he loves so much that he even died for knowing all the bad things you have done. That is how much love he has and will always have for you. I don’t know you but you might be going through hard times, so keep these words in mind that God gives hope to the hopeless and he heals any wounds including the ones from the heart, and he can do the same for you regardless of anything. Thank you for reading, God bless you always❤️
@GamerJosh2611
@GamerJosh2611 Жыл бұрын
Man... this ending feels the most fitting, but I can't help but feel bad for Kaya
@ryoukokonpaku1575
@ryoukokonpaku1575 10 ай бұрын
I really felt like Code Geass, I could already see a similar distraught scream from her at that end scenario similar to Nunnally when she saw Lelouch. Really felt bad Kaya on this ending too but I agree this ending felt the most complete.
@Darkdoom999
@Darkdoom999 11 ай бұрын
I beat the game today and crying my eyes out. Iori wasn't wrong. He was just at the wrong time... Same as Yamoto.
@алексейпугачев-л9й
@алексейпугачев-л9й Жыл бұрын
No wonder Gil found interest in Iori.....he really is just like Kirei and Shirou in a way.......... this game story wise really feel's like was using unpublished script's for character's and plot point's......maybe if we had Illya's route we would have Shirou who would also want eather for grail war to continue or for Angra Mainyu to be born since it would replicate the tragedy that happened to him 10 year's ago.Iori just like Shirou died and was reborn at that day and mentally was reliving it over and over.Hear me out:when did Shirou even said he want's to save the world? He always states that he want's to become a hero of justice but why? Kirei proposed that he could use grail's power to turn back time or to stop human's suffering,but Shirou think's that it's wrong for him to achieve his goat so easily but maybe that's becuase that's not what he wants? Maybe Shirou felt jealows of Kiritsugu when he saw his face at that moment,the face of someone who felt fulfilled destite being so broker so perhaps if Shirou followed Kiritsugu's footstept and did what Kiritsugu felt was right perhaps he also could..................that's why Shirou does not walue his life,if he can't become hero of justice there is no point of him to live! But of course there is not all that it is to those character's,it's just one side of a coin.
@Nothingness4907
@Nothingness4907 Жыл бұрын
It's not at all about how easy it is or not It's that it's basically denying the suffering of all those people If You change the past what about this present? What about everyone who died in this world? They would just disappear, sure, another version of them would be saved, but what about the original one? Is it right for Shirou to just settle for them and ignore the original ones like that? He'd rather keep suffering to make their death worth something It wasn't jealousy, it was admiration Shirou don't value his life because he don't think he deserve to be saved It's a nice theory though
@apieceofblueglassmoon2288
@apieceofblueglassmoon2288 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. Comparing them, Iori and Emiya all could have picked something different from the path of their dream for Shirou, and desire for Iori. They both didn't value their life that much since there was nothing like that in what they want to do with their one chance to live. In the end for each one of them, Shirou could have many to realise many things about his dream, Iori Miyamoto only had two paths to follow, and only one path truly embraces his desire. In the end of the New Game Plus's option, Iori in his last moments decided that there was nothing left to hide, there was nobody else he can cut, and he couldn't no longer follow his desire as Saber "broke his sword". He now can finally proclaim that he thinks of Saber as a True friend of his lifetime, seemingly apologize for giving up everything between them to follow his desire. As Saber understands him, letting him speak his final words knowing that he wants to speak out his feelings. To say that, there is nothing more of that desire but the dream of having a True friend. For this thought, that might be the only regret for Iori that he couldn't understand his True friend as that person understands Iori dearly, "Sorry, that this is the end for me here, that I couldn't ever realise, that I have a True friend for the path I took. Sorry, Saber." Iori Miyamoto, a sad ending that was. But that was the only thing that could have happened at the end of his life, so I'm glad that Saber was the one to do it, the one who understands him in the end.
@sophielarchlight1450
@sophielarchlight1450 Жыл бұрын
May it be true ending I still don't want to make Kaya sad
@MicKChanchan
@MicKChanchan Жыл бұрын
The true ending making yui, saber , kaya and me sad .
@grimgrimxv9380
@grimgrimxv9380 Жыл бұрын
Now this is the best ending. It was sad, but it was great. Iori goat.
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 10 ай бұрын
As FGO crossover shows, this seems the most canon ending (multiverse bs be damned)
@jikitamurin8708
@jikitamurin8708 10 ай бұрын
Iori is similar to Kirei, both of their nature thrive on chaotic time, they seek them, they wish for them If the only things that made them different from each other is that Iori is capable of loving
@nanamichiaki2657
@nanamichiaki2657 Жыл бұрын
In one way, I think Iori was satisfied by dying in Saber sword skill which bewitched him. Saber also decided to kill him after sensing the calamity he will face and cause in the future if he was left feeling alone in the peaceful world which doesn't fit in with his mindset. (It is so sad though, doesn't that just mean that while Saber understand him, Iori himself did not understand Saber enough hence why he lose)This make me wonder...Does the good ending really a good ending for him? I mean the player was the one choosing the option but it was not like it was his desire because he may suppressed himself to make a good choice for everyone. The peaceful day may just make his mind gone real bad in the end because he desire a more dangerous life and what will happen if he snap one day?
@raisedbybears1991
@raisedbybears1991 Жыл бұрын
*Iori
@phantasosxgames8488
@phantasosxgames8488 Жыл бұрын
all 3 endings comes from a prune timeline , so it legit don't matter. But the thing of "Ray of Hope" and "Flame of Resentment" is that they are endings in which his blade thirsts , but Iori himself is satisfied that Kaya is safe Flame of Resentment specifically have Rogue Saber writting a sermon to Iori , to help him regarding his "thirst" , to be akin to an oni , but even been one , he uses his wife as an example that onis can be good and morals even with said "thirsts". All 3 endings are "an ending" , not "good" or "bad" or "true". In the end , each ending had Iori sacrificing either his morals or his thirst. It really exemplify that he was simply born in the wrong era.
@Stellarheim
@Stellarheim Жыл бұрын
He did not really mean it. But the temptation to fight Saber was just too great.
@hetaresgaming7771
@hetaresgaming7771 10 ай бұрын
Miyamoto Iori... you were born in the wrong era.
@sadge_png
@sadge_png Жыл бұрын
Iori be like "I want to murder you" (affectionate)
@omegajyj2732
@omegajyj2732 Жыл бұрын
i swear to god this game is just fate/homoerotic swordfighting
@алексейпугачев-л9й
@алексейпугачев-л9й Жыл бұрын
well it is a game about samurai's after all......
@nailigniststarzear6689
@nailigniststarzear6689 Жыл бұрын
consider other ending end up as He living pointless live without anyone to fight and become living corpes(or so I heard)...this one is true ending Win Grail war then Met epic end with this own servant sound like good Heroic spirit backstore
@MugdhaMahdiShams
@MugdhaMahdiShams 11 ай бұрын
There is no true ending.
@ExoticGamer465
@ExoticGamer465 Жыл бұрын
If this choice of ending had a slightly good in it like Iori doesn't want to destoy it yet all because he'd not gonna see saber again, he'd would've want a sparing match and whoever wins gets to destory it. That way would've smiled to the end. But still I have no dislike to this ending nor the others.
@cter9291
@cter9291 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I was curious about this ending and I am surprised, Iori really does resemble Kirei. May Jesus Christ be with you.
@ThermalVoid
@ThermalVoid Жыл бұрын
Wow! Iori can use Swallow Reversal !? 😲
@haroldnecmann7040
@haroldnecmann7040 23 күн бұрын
Tsubame gaeshi?
@ThermalVoid
@ThermalVoid 23 күн бұрын
@haroldnecmann7040 Yes.
@Sigma_Looksmaxxer
@Sigma_Looksmaxxer Жыл бұрын
6:40 Saber's wife reincarnated as Iori's sister: B-Bro.... THE FUCK YOU FLIRTING WITH MY MAN!
@falerob1
@falerob1 Жыл бұрын
Whats the theme that plays in this boss fight i tried to find it but the closest one i got was "where the sword takes you"
@LoneReach
@LoneReach 11 ай бұрын
In case you haven’t found it yet it should be Sword and Confidants
@Likeacentipede
@Likeacentipede 10 ай бұрын
sound like One Punch Man OST XD
@ahmadirfan668
@ahmadirfan668 5 ай бұрын
Different master ,different story,it's fate.
@pqulxv3810
@pqulxv3810 11 ай бұрын
Maaannnn.... I hope we get a pseudo servant of Kojiro in Iori's body with the six blade tsubame gaeshi...
@simpledeukae5613
@simpledeukae5613 10 ай бұрын
🤌
@Likeacentipede
@Likeacentipede 10 ай бұрын
the best ending
@akai9-ball404
@akai9-ball404 10 ай бұрын
Iori would betray his servant just to fight her😂
@zeryuouros4411
@zeryuouros4411 2 ай бұрын
A bit late but that's a he
@fateriddle14
@fateriddle14 Жыл бұрын
What's your equipment stats? Normal attack up?
@DongEnhancer
@DongEnhancer Жыл бұрын
I would love to know the name of the song that plays during the beginning of this fight.
@HirotoShion
@HirotoShion Жыл бұрын
Why were we even playing as Iori in this scenario? Why were we given one fixed ending for this route?
@dbzmods6429
@dbzmods6429 Жыл бұрын
What was sabers wish?
@dogsai
@dogsai Жыл бұрын
Understand his wife feeling and he understood in the end
@ribstein7714
@ribstein7714 Жыл бұрын
I think you're mistaken in your reading. Saber's wish was unrelated to Ototachibana-hime. we can know the wish you suggest can't be the one Saber is reffering to in "entreat the darkness" because the Ototachibana-hime digression is optional. This means it is possible to have saber say their wish was fullfilled in this ending without having "fullfilled" it. It was a lovely coincidence that Ototachibana-hime was chain summoned with Saber but that isn't why they answered the summons. from the very beggining, before they knew that Ototchibana-hime would be summoned: they knew that their wish didn't need the grail and pretended to have forgotten it. Saber's wish was to have a friend. they found that friend in Iori. This is the importance of Iori saying: "but haven't I been blessed with a true friend?". This is not something he himself values greatly but he knew saber did and thus affirmed them: that he too viewed them as a friend. Notice that right after this affirmation is the scene where saber states that the grail was not needed to have their wish fullfilled. Notice also that saber Is crying in this scene as they smile. Saber crying is an important element. this can be shown in a monologe saber has with themselves earlier in the game. In this scene: Saber remembers Ototachibana-hime's sacrifice and the vow Yamato Takeru made that day: to never cry again. "on that day, at that moment... I first knew real tears. I knew plenty. and I knew sorrow. I realized sorrow was all I earned from killing them - the Takeru brothers - in those distant lands. and then, my tears ran dry. Oh, dear wife of mine... never would I cry again." but as with the afformentioned scene and the very scene where Saber says this: they do cry again: "or so I thought, until today. why, Iori? just thinking of how my days with you will come to an end, I get so-----" This Is drawing a clear thematic parallel between Iori and Ototachibana-hime. So what is that parallel? They both treated the bloodstained prince as a human, as someone worthy of affection. The story of Yamato Takeru presented in fate is that of an Isolated man who died with no friends or family, alone and unfullfilled. Let's take a look at some descriptions and quotes to this effect. The following are some descriptions of takeru taken from their in game profile: "accoding to the dream that Iori saw of Saber's former life, this hero was lauded for butchering many a man, but was in truth isolated and forlorn." "outcast by his family, friendless and bereft of his beloved wife, Takeru slaughtered people, kings, and even gods as he continued on his path. After his long journey of conquest, his lonliness growing with each battle, Yamato Takeru's spirit became a white swan, soaring through the heavens." notice the explicit mention of "friendless" and overall driving home of Takeru's isolation. In life Saber's former life "[..] There was but one who could stand to be near me. someone who held these tainted hands", that someone being Ototchibana-hime. In Saber's second life: that someone is Iori. we actually have dream of Iori's, showcasing Takeru's wish. That scene is labled "a wish" in the library of the game and is described as such by the game: "Iori dreams of someone losing the people they hold dear, a dream of one who walks alone, cutting a path through burning flame." in this scene we are shown the sacrifice of Ototachibana-hime but that isn't where the scene ends. It also shows the betrayal of Yamato Takeru at Yakidzu where he redirects the flames set against him with his sword's divine power. another example of being isolated. They say this in the scene. "what did I shout on those plains-- when i drew the divine sword in the inferno. what did I shout? what did I curse? what did I wish for?" what Saber cursed was their isolation. what they wished for was to have someone they could call a friend. That was the wish Saber held in their heart and why they answered the summons in my opinion. ps. the materials of saber also explictly call saber Iori's friend as the first descriptor of the character and describes that even though saber at first regarded Iori as weak and thus wanted to toss him aside: they grew to appreciate him.
@japz321
@japz321 Жыл бұрын
Having a true friend, iori fulfilled it
@HitsujiMamoru
@HitsujiMamoru 11 ай бұрын
@@ribstein7714 And I think Iori calling his name when it matters in the other two endings was enough for Saber to understand Iori saw him as a friend he can put his trust in. A duel to the death was unneeded for that. In all endings, Saber's wish was fulfilled. Now I want an ending where Iori's dream is crushed AND where he can continue to live on. That way, Saber won't have to cry for a broken bitch but a healing fool.
@usernotfound1191
@usernotfound1191 8 ай бұрын
Imagining iori as a lostbelt king should he have succeded is a fun thing to think about knowing this world is a lostbelt already
@iskandaraslar-pf3iv
@iskandaraslar-pf3iv Жыл бұрын
For a boss fight this kinda disappointed me how easy to remember the pattern is....but i dont mind But i do find fighting 3 lynel and 4 ganon is far harder than this fight
@kibathefang6022
@kibathefang6022 10 ай бұрын
It's against Saber. We are familiar with all his moves because we've been fighting with him since the start.
@iskandaraslar-pf3iv
@iskandaraslar-pf3iv 10 ай бұрын
@@kibathefang6022 eyup
@umu8912
@umu8912 Жыл бұрын
is this not the bad ending?? Bro turned into Shura.
@Thomazbr
@Thomazbr Жыл бұрын
That's how Iori truly is. Until the DLC changes anything, this is the True Ending.
@GnosisZX
@GnosisZX Жыл бұрын
Iori was being true to himself living as he wanted not as society dictated
@stephengreenslade6279
@stephengreenslade6279 Жыл бұрын
It's not the true ending, the True ending can only be gotten in NG+ which fills in some things that were missing in NG. The true ending's final boss is Chiemon in some weird hellish form.
@Rilo99
@Rilo99 Жыл бұрын
​@@stephengreenslade6279i got that ending on first playthrough so you don't need NG+ for that 😅
@lorenzo4493
@lorenzo4493 Жыл бұрын
Flames of resenment is the "true" ending
@lukeg6833
@lukeg6833 3 ай бұрын
I can’t beat her XD help
@bluelion3008
@bluelion3008 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's such a thing as 'true' ending in this game. I think that it follows the same principles as the Stay Night trilogy, so there's no "true" "good" or "bad" endings, it's just a path that the player follows
@DarkKnight-mo1yl
@DarkKnight-mo1yl Жыл бұрын
You mean the same F/SN that has true, good, normal and all other kinds of endings?
@bluelion3008
@bluelion3008 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkKnight-mo1yl There was never been confirmed that Stay Night has any real "true" ending
@DarkKnight-mo1yl
@DarkKnight-mo1yl Жыл бұрын
@@bluelion3008 You don't know what you're talking about. Canon ending and true ending are not the same thing. VN has 3 endings explicitly referred to as True End. Those are intended endings of their respective routes, not canonical ones.
@bluelion3008
@bluelion3008 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkKnight-mo1yl If that's what you want to think, then fine. I'm not going to get into an argument over this
@DarkKnight-mo1yl
@DarkKnight-mo1yl Жыл бұрын
@@bluelion3008 Bro what? It's not a matter of what you or i are thinking. VN itself refers to those endings that way.
@yep1486
@yep1486 Жыл бұрын
Lori do be a clown, lmao
@anthonychessar7179
@anthonychessar7179 Жыл бұрын
After everything, i only have one question: did we REALLY need to play the game again just to see that Iori's an asshole? Why did game basically HIDE this when it should have always been there normally? It doesn't feel right to have Iori be basically be a generic protagonist the whole game, only for him to all of a sudden morph into a bloodthirsty asshole in the late-game of another playthrough. Its really stupid and it should've just always been there. It makes the main character seem "off" or inconsistent due to having NO trace of bloodlust in that 1st run. They feel like completely different characters when he probably shouldn't.
@fateriddle14
@fateriddle14 Жыл бұрын
Did you fast forward all the conversation? Literally everybody is commenting on Iori has another layer to him, and the dark back story of Iori is the first thing you see every chapter. If anything is inconsistant, it's the other endings.
@anthonychessar7179
@anthonychessar7179 Жыл бұрын
It should have just been there normally, and not just sprinkled in on some other playthrough. This "layer" was slapped on all too suddenly.
@jairomelchor8024
@jairomelchor8024 Жыл бұрын
Bro literally just either rushed his first playthrough or did not gave a fuck about all the clues the other characters had about Iori, specially Musashi. The guy was never a generic goody two shoes. The characters just constantly talk about Iori hiding something all the time. It isn't some asspull at all unique to this third ending.
@Daniel-di5ml
@Daniel-di5ml Жыл бұрын
The hints were always there, even on the first playthrough. Ng+ just adds even more.
@sonicfraisheya4028
@sonicfraisheya4028 Жыл бұрын
my reasoning would be that for first playthrough, if you arrived at the good ending, means you have successfully maintained the peace of Edo, and Iori dream is broken. but he lives in a time of peace despite his desire to fight and kill. which already has been alluded to in the first playthrough and the final scene. we as the player going through ng+ is giving him what he wants , more fighting and killing and the game rewards us with the iori that doesn't want to end the waxing moon, because he will no longer be satisfied living peacefully. YOU as a player are the one who feeds iori desire for killing and fighting and so the rewards you with this ending . he fought what he considers the best swordsman in the world , lost and defeated ,but with not a single regret . he .might have loved kaya as a sister, but his desire for bloodshed and swordsmanship is above kaya in this particular ending .
@Emperorwolf999
@Emperorwolf999 Жыл бұрын
what exactly causes this? what a stupid ending...
@soralight_x
@soralight_x Жыл бұрын
You get this only in NG+ if you choose the Option "Not to destroy the waxing Moon" at the end of the game. Choosing the other option unlocks the game's True Ending.
@Emperorwolf999
@Emperorwolf999 Жыл бұрын
@@soralight_x then this isn't the true ending?
@soralight_x
@soralight_x Жыл бұрын
@@Emperorwolf999 No
@AT_1045
@AT_1045 Жыл бұрын
There are 2 route caused by the options in Chapter4. Each of them has an own end in the route, and both of the 2 ending will destroy the Waxing Moon. Then, only for new game+, both of the two route will have a new option before the final chapter of the route to choose that destroy it or not. If you choose not to destrory it,the last bosses of those 2 route will kill each other, and this THIRD ending will be caused no matter which route you choose in chapter4. So, this ending is a new game+ SECRET ending.
@rabbss830
@rabbss830 Жыл бұрын
​@@soralight_x yes this is the true ending, dont lie.
@bluelion3008
@bluelion3008 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's such a thing as 'true' ending in this game. I think that it follows the same principles as the Stay Night trilogy, so there's no "true" "good" or "bad" endings, it's just a path that the player follows
@filipbruzzolo8747
@filipbruzzolo8747 Жыл бұрын
you're kinda right but also kinda wrong since the game happens in a pruned timeline, meaning that in the end, the timeline will be gone in each case
@Beasthart
@Beasthart Жыл бұрын
@@filipbruzzolo8747 Well if we think, Iori in the real world die at 65 years old, so each world where he dies before reaching his old age are separated from the ph and got pruned.
@phantasosxgames8488
@phantasosxgames8488 Жыл бұрын
@@Beasthart it's not only that. In Real Life , Iori was in his 40s , as a high-rank vassal , in 1651. Not only that , Iori was part of the shogunate during the Shimabara Rebellion , been the explicit reason of his meteoric rising as a vassal. With him and Yeomon been the ones that spread the Book of Five Rings and mantaining Musashi's Dojo. SR Iori is in his 20s , meaning the character literally was born later than PHH Iori. And is a Ronin , rather than a Vassal.
@bluelion3008
@bluelion3008 11 ай бұрын
The point I was trying to make, is that just like the Stay Night timeline has three different routes, which is hard to tell which one is the true timeline of the Fuyuki's Holy Grail War, Samurai Remnant does also has no true ending like that.
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