Mizuno JPX923 Forged vs Pro 223 Which one is the BETTER Choice?

[@NotSoFakeTaxi]

That’s it I’m buying the 223. I’ve been playing the JPX 900 for the past four years. They’ve taken me from a 20 handicap Down to a five. Now that I just want to get more of that feedback I think it’s going to be awesome. My ball sticking is probably the strongest part of my game. I feel this can help me get scratch !

[@Dave-di6vb]

Been waiting for this one Jay, thanks, great stuff, going to get fit for 223 this week.

[@TheeNickyT]

This is a fantastic comparison. Based in facts with some “feeling” mixed in as opposed to the other way around - much appreciated!

[@TimLeonard-d5m]

Brilliant analysis. Going with the 223 based on this video.

[@mitchellchodzicki1080]

This is the review I’ve been waiting for! Great review! I got fitted for the 923’s. I tried the 223’s and they felt great but the fitter recommended the 923’s because of the touch more forgiveness. He said “on a good day, I’m gonna love the 223’s but on a bad day I’m gonna want to quit golf.” 3-4 weeks out but I’m in Canada so I’ll have to wait until April to try them on a course!

[@AskGolfNut]

Feel sorry for you guys where the snow is crazy and has stopped many from playing. Here's to warmer months rolling in asap 👍

[@dpdp971]

My experience with the 223's is similar to what Jay found, and I agree with his general rule that if you're missing way off the face you need more practice and potentially lessons. I've played G Series Pings and don't find the 223's harder to hit for me. Sometimes I have a bad day and it doesn't matter what club I'm using. (I'm a 9 handicap) The 223's feel so good to me I'm fine giving up 5 yards or so of "free distance".

[@Dave-bf9qu]

Thanks for this review, any chance you could compare the JPX 923 Tour with the MP 223?

[@acemakerjay]

Great review Jay. I have the 900 Forged and the 923's look really nice. Love your technical expertise. You really delve into the numbers.

[@deanbowditch7329]

Great content as alwsys Jay. Ive always been a Mp guy . Just moved on from Mp 30s and bagged the Mp 225s and couldnt be happier. You are truly one of the best on KZbin and i value every review that you put out. Keep them coming !

[@Beadlesabout88]

Great review. Interesting data and you keep my attention all the way through. Thanks for all your work in preparing and sharing. Keep up the great work Jay.

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad you enjoyed the video as all of my other content is every bit as enthralling 😉😊😊👍🏻👍🏻

[@icetrey2468]

Love the reviews/comparisons. Especially quantifying the forgiveness of the clubs. Would love to see it on the Cobra lineup. Particularly the King TEC hybrid, Forged TEC irons and the King line of irons.

[@hunghorse31]

Just watched this and appreciate the review. I am coming from a GI MX300s and hit the 223s and love the feel. The misses aren't too punishing and feel is awesome! Thank you for reassuring my new purchase!

[@AskGolfNut]

That's ok, glad you enjoyed the video 👍

[@johnwalsh1737]

Another great review, also enjoyed the live session the other evening.

[@AskGolfNut]

Pleasure to have you a part of it John 👍

[@SteveSmith-zz4ih]

Thanks for these, very honest reviews, pity other reviewers weren't on the same page, personal opinion.

[@AskGolfNut]

Hi Steve, I haven't watched others content, what has been the findings or lack there of 😊

[@SteveSmith-zz4ih]

@@AskGolfNut Just some reviewers are over the top "Fan Boys". plus very few if any put up the off center data, yours is more comprehensive and very easy to comprehend.

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks Steve, appreciate your words. Have recently tried expanding reach into the likes of twitter and Facebook and have been trolled by a couple of very opinionated idiots that just want to spit venom rather than give any constructive feedback, so having the positive words you utter means a lot 👍👍👍

[@Scunchburn]

Even though I'm not in the UK anymore still love watching your videos and using the drills you taught me! Keep em coming!

[@douglasmoore8033]

Thank you Jay! Content is fantastic, love how you review equipment.

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks Doug for your kind feedback 👍

[@TRIKushbeachside]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the 919T vs 923T still has to be done! Plz 🙌🏾

[@stevewimmer9758]

Nice job. I'd like the free distance but I already bought the 223s 😆 😕

[@joemckibben9457]

Fastastic review. Extremely helpful thank you.

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad you enjoyed the video Joe 👍

[@iCharlie93]

Hi Jay, really enjoy your reviews. Looking forward to whenever you're able to test the new 24x range, particularly the 243s... any idea when this might be? I'm currently gaming the 919 Tours but feel I could use a bit more forgiveness in my next set, in the longer irons at the very least with my miss being predominantly toe-side. The 223s or upcoming 243s may be the winner but coming from the JPX side of things I could easily see myself going 923 Tours combo'd with the Forged or perhaps even the 243s. Preference would be a straight set without messing with the lofts and thereby the bounces, in which case the 243s apparently going 2 degrees weaker (34 deg. 7 iron) might just be spot on. Will have to get fitted in the new year when they're released I suppose!

[@Foregrlz]

I tried both 923f and 223 .....I'm slower than you carrying 7i about 153 with each .....923 was lower launch and spin and also lower decent angle....so for me the 223 was purchased getting same yardage carry with higher apex and really good feel

[@AskGolfNut]

Definitely the better choice for you 👍 👍

[@ImaBearOk]

I fitted into 921 forged and moved out of them after becoming a better ball striker. The pulls were too punishing, especially at 95mph club head speed. I’d lean towards 223 for better strikers. Great review.

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks very much for your kind feedback, with a 95 mph head speed, there's definitely not the need for added distance irons, you use them and you'll be hitting 7 iron off the tee over 200 yards 😊

[@firstname7330]

Forged 923 seem like a good fit for a junior getting into their first set of OEM heads.

[@AskGolfNut]

Yes especially as they a more sensibly lofted than some irons for the junior with increasing head speed. Mizuno offer a huge range of shafts that will ensure the junior gets the right shaft option at the right time 👍🏻

[@CacheCropp]

I have the JPX 900 which I know you love ;). I am drawn to the look and feel of the hollow body irons, but as a lefty, I can’t try the Pro 225’s. I’m intrigued by your statement that the 223’s are equal if not better in forgiveness on the extreme misses. Very surprising. I too would love to see how the Cobra Forged Tec and Tec X compare to the 223 and JPX923’s.

[@stevemcvay2220]

How about the 223 vs PXG 0317 T vs Takomo 201!?!? Would LOVE to see that review! Really looking for the softest irons in that category! 💯💯💯👍👍👍

[@Doinitwell007]

Love your comparison videos can you do a video of what you think are some of the most forgive player cavity and blade iron against the new cobra line thanks I think that will be a great vid cheers

[@GOLFADDICT65]

great review..cheers from Canada

[@AskGolfNut]

What's the weather like over there? 😊

[@GOLFADDICT65]

@@AskGolfNut well where i am right now is about +4 celsius BUT we are expected to get 20-30 cm of snow this week and temperatures of -30 Celsius ....no golf for awhile...dang it

[@AskGolfNut]

JC that's cold ❄ I won't swap if that's ok 😊

[@GOLFADDICT65]

@@AskGolfNut don't blame ya...lol...hoping to be golfing by the end of March or middle of April...sooner the better

[@JoeyLeclerc]

Living in Quebec, Canada myself I can feel your pain Vernongolfer!

[@smilingeyes72]

Would much like to see a comparison review between the JPX 923 forged and the Wilson Staff D9 forged.

[@JoeyLeclerc]

Thanks a lot Jay, this is the one review I was looking for. Results are a bit of a surprise, I think I had ruled out the 923 forged a bit too fast. How much of an improvement are the 923 Forged over the 919 Forged? I know they're 2 degrees stronger but other than that?

[@AskGolfNut]

The 921 was an evolutionary step over the 919 and the 923 over the 921. Its not quite as much of a step up as the Hot Metals but first and foremost I'd say go test them out. Go for a fitting and see what shaft you are in now and what specification of head. Look at the data sets and see where the gains are to be had 👍👍

[@JoeyLeclerc]

@@AskGolfNut Will do for sure, I think we have a Mizuno rep. coming in March... can't wait! I will probably get to test the whole clubface, just not on purpose like you :) thanks again!

[@duncanjones2404]

Hi, love the vids. Can you test maybe an old iron like jpx 825 pro (yes my gamer) against the mp 223 to see how they compare in all departments including feel and your expertise forgiveness. As thinking 223's could be for me. For info I swing 88 to 92mph with a 7 iron. If can't do your opinion on differences would be very much appreciated...

[@Zippy-the-Bearcat]

Would love to see that comparison also and had my eye on replacing my 825 pros with either of these…. great feel and one of the best sole grinds. Keep up the great reviews!!

[@michaelscore6763]

Okay, if i had the chance to get a 14 club Mizuno full set, i would takes a set of of 221 from 4 to wedge, a fli hi 3 iron, a clk 2 hybrid or a 5 wood, a stz 3 wood andere driver, a 51 St 22 gap wedge, a 58 Lob wedge St 22 and a grindworks or evnroll blade putter.... But if the 221 is not elective then i have the decision between 223 and 923 tour (!!) and this would be close to decide for me.. I think i would take the 923 tour because they suit my eyes more. But i prefer the 223 before the 923 forged.... But I never will get the chance to choice a Mizuno full set.....

[@craigtalbot9316]

@AskGolfNut I'm using 923 hmp but jumpy numbers is an issue and lower spin, would forged be much different or 223? Like the standard distance of hmp but not the jumpers 🤦‍♂️ thanks

[@myopenmind527]

Now I wondering if I could get away with a full set of Mizuno Pro 243s when they are released. Obviously there will be a change (marginal improvement) in looks/ feel / performance from the MIZONO PRO 223s. I guess I’ll have to get fit nice they are released. I’ll have to give you a call and set that up early 224 before the start of the 2024 season.

[@AskGolfNut]

😊 More info on 243 coming on tonight's Live Stream 👍🏻

[@myopenmind527]

@@AskGolfNut looking forward to that!

[@Rd-bi7vr]

I have been playing the mp 69s since 2011. I am a 10hc. Will I see a benefit from moving to the 223 pros? Thanks

[@rbassdo]

Between the ZX5 and the Mizuno 923 forged, which sounds and feels better to you on equal strikes? Thanks!

[@jusbringit]

will you be comparing them with the srixon zx5/zx7 mk2?

[@AskGolfNut]

Just need to source them to test with and I'll be hard on the comparison work 👍👍

[@jefftaylor9250]

Great review. I really wanted to get a set of Mizuno's this year but I just kind of slotted in between these 2. 223s didn't give me the distance and honestly just wasn't a fan of the look or feel of the forged. I ended up getting some Homna 757vx's and WOW. They give me the best of both. Distance and forgiveness of the forged, feel might even be better than the 223s and better looking than both IMO. I would love to see you do aJapanese head to head with the Honmas, Mizuno's and the new srixons.

[@jeffbaker2903]

223’s feel way better.

[@robertbencangey6207]

I think going forward you should do a disclaimer at the start of the video and say I call Mizuno Pro “MP” 😜

[@anthonysaych980]

Are you comparing Pro 223 against Jpx tour

[@AskGolfNut]

Wasn't going to but can be persuaded 😂😂

[@anthonysaych980]

👍

[@stevebebbington2507]

Hello mate, do you think age should come into your thinking when choosing between these two sets of irons once you get older?

[@AskGolfNut]

As seniority hits us all at one point, I'd always be thinking about taking the one that will encourage launch as much as possible. Being totally honest if it's that, then I'd probably go the HM Pro. Springy face and lower further back CG 👍

[@mcnillerandsons7906]

Did you compare 223 to 923 Tour? I thought those were more like for like.

[@AskGolfNut]

The 223 and Forged have quite a lot in common, very similar technologies in the 2 heads, where the Tour has more in common with the 221 blade. 👍

[@NickOnPar]

Who would you say can play the modus tour 115 stiff? As far as swing speed, handicap etc.

[@paulgouge1896]

Modus 115 has a softer tip than 120, so should launch higher. Handicap is irrelevant, recommend you get fitted, the Mizuno DNA swing analysis is spot on. I did my own research and liked the Modus 120 and that was 1 of the 2 top recommendations from my fitting.