NEVER SEEN A CO2 SYSTEM LIKE THIS BEFORE! Unboxing The All New Dennerle Carbo Soda M200

[@MJAquascaping]

What do you guys think of this CO2 system? Would you consider using it yourself?

[@mesterh6402]

Literally useless since it has no solenoid. Probably costs less to buy everything from amazon aswell.

[@luiswicho5301]

@@mesterh6402 I disagree. Don't say it's useless bc it doesn't have a solenoid valve. And buying things from Amazon won't be less expensive.

[@adrianradu2332]

I see a lot of talk about this being inefficient because of a lack of automatic valve... I would say you can work around that with a manual system... What I do to prevent that on my manual CO2 system is I never truly turn it off when the photo period is done. Co2 does build up overnight, but never in dangerous amounts. I've tested this in my tank + the oxygen levels and I never got readings below the maximum level of oxygen on the test. Plus, you always have a CO2 buildup ready for photosynthesis as soon as the lights turn on, even if you do remember to turn on the system a bit later. It is not perfect, but it does offer you a wider margin of error. Keep in mind that the main factor in this equation that leads to algae blooming is still the light. What that means is that if you do not have enough CO2 built up when the light period starts in a high tech tank, so for example if you were to turn on the CO2 system at the same time as the light, then a lot of the light for the first 1 hour of the period will be used to feed the algae, since there won't be enough CO2 to stimulate photosynthesis enough. By keeping it on overnight but nowhere near full blast, then you allow for a CO2 build-up that can efficiently be used during the next photo period. Evidently, having a lot of plants helps, especially floating plants. Another way to effectively work with a manual system is to perfectly balance the level of CO2 both during the day and night, so that it never goes over 20-30 ppm, but this is a lot harder as it requires rigorous testing to see which bubble counts works best and even if you find that sweetspot, it will never be the same because the pressure in the cannister changes with time and the counter will not read the same when the bottle is close to the end vs when it was new, so you will have to start adjusting again.. Another way is to include an Airstone to provide aeration at night and keep the CO2 running as you normally would, but I would worry about the PH here so I do not fully recommend this method... One disadvantage that you will never be able to cover without a valve, is cost effectiveness... You always end up wasting CO2 like this unfortunately and it begs the question if a proper CO2 is not worth it more in the long run, especially one with a rechargeable bottle.

[@rutsoluo]

Considering there are people hooking up the 5-20 pounds canister to the Sodastream machine to save cost, I would say this alternative although convenient it is less cost effective. Also there is a concern of end of tank syndrome because of the single gauge, you don’t have worry killing your fish when you make soda. I hook up a 10 pound canister and I can forget about it for 3 months.So I wouldn’t go cheap on the CO2 regulator.

[@endlerpoeciliawingei]

Hello, one question, neo difuser or twinstar difuser? Thanks

[@3v1Bunny]

glad to see Pusheen is enjoying the hobby with you. I won't use it ... I would like a timer and for the base size it is just as big as a 2kg tank ... ok it is slightly less high ?

[@micharlawiet2971]

saw the video some time ago, then bought the system because of your video and am very happy about the puchase, the plants are happy and I am happy, thank you!

[@sunlounger29]

The „Hiwi CO2 Anlage 425 Profi“ has a solenoid included in the set and with 159,- € it’s even cheaper than the Dennerle product.

[@richardwaldhouse8067]

Very interesting I will check it out here in USA Arizona!

[@RizeTB1]

I definitely would consider it. That size aquarium with a CO2 set up would really make me happy.

[@peterkukac3957]

Ive been using sodastream bottles in my aquarium, I had to put an adapter on a regular reducer. I had problems with rubber sealings of the adapter and the reducer. It is an advantage that here you dont need an adapter. I would buy a solenoid anyways.

[@SmartCollector19]

Looks good but i think a solenoide valve is a must...

[@xXIronSwanXx]

Solenoide is super important so I have to agree with this

[@MJAquascaping]

Yes I agree

[@aryah1513]

I know soaking the diffuser (without using it) helps it function better when you DO use it. I think without doing this it causes channeling and if you raise the co2 level too fast it might even cause a crack or it might stretch out the channels with pressure.

[@md.iftekharahmedkushal5623]

MJ doing very well. Your video always amazing to watch.

[@MJAquascaping]

Thank you so much 🤗

[@haitch04]

Looks well made as you'd expect from Dennerle, no solenoid is a big issue as to buy one makes the package expensive compared to others. I used to have a soda bottle system years ago, not sure if it's still the same but after buying the first bottle I could exchange the old bottle for a full one at very low cost. I just wonder if the Dennerle marked bottle that comes with the set could be exchanged when empty, or would a new Soda Stream branded bottle have to be purchased?.

[@daniellex8686]

thats a rly cool system

[@TanksAndTooMuchTime]

Dang, wish this came out earlier. Could have put it on my Christmas list.

[@luiswicho5301]

Hi pal. Yep, I've been using Sodastream CO2 system for a while in both of my Nanos. In a 45p 36L lasts for 10 months. It's the cheapest system. Where I live I can find it in almost every store. I use the Aqua-Noa pressure reducers. They are well made with a needle regulation too.

[@briandixon4931]

I think its a great co2 system and it looks attractive easy on the eyes does the job no mixing required should be a more available on amazon

[@Grey_Ghost_GX]

Looks like a very nice product

[@emberframe6994]

yep soda stream is available here as well

[@CoralMan24]

love Dennerle products you got a great helper, your cat was trying to connect the tubing up lol I agree about the solenoid being in with the kit maybe they will add it after seeing your review :)

[@jamesbrancopratt3820]

Another thing that the product is missing which you didn't mention is the dual stage display. Where you get a working pressure but also residual pressure in the bottle. There are two major things that bother me, as you mentioned, the solenoid valve and also the missing 2nd display.

[@KentAJDK]

Thats looks like a great solution. I might be buying on.

[@mauritiusexoticfishrv6574]

Yes I would consider but tell me one thing if I skipped an explanation. Is is refillable or disposable bottles?

[@MJAquascaping]

refillable

[@williammcdowell6257]

refillable as an exchange

[@mauritiusexoticfishrv6574]

@@williammcdowell6257 mean you can't refill the same bottle but change it

[@williammcdowell6257]

@@mauritiusexoticfishrv6574 You exchange at the shop, then the soda stream company refill the bottle.

[@ericrudy2504]

I like everything about it except that there is no solenoid as you pointed out. I have 3 tanks that have CO2 and turning them on and off everyday would be annoying.

[@williammcdowell6257]

Running CO2 art 30% of the photoperiod level even-outs CO2 levels and helps control BBA in my experience and results in no more CO2 being used, though CO2 levels a couple of hours before the lights come on can be too high if care isn't taken.

[@Hazylittlething]

Is there any way to plug it into a light schedule setter so it comes on when the light comes on and shuts off when the light shuts off?

[@jeanmajor354]

On what side do you install the air stone when you install co2 in a aquarium

[@hendrikwirtz8418]

The concept is great but Dennerle should also sell just the pressure regulator, so no Soda Bottle and Diffusor. After the Bottle is empty, you receive a full bottle without the logo. I think the soda bottle is pointless, it just increases the price of the product. Please publish the pressure regulator separately for like 70€ and it's fine.

[@TanksAndTooMuchTime]

I agree with the thought of them selling the regulator separately, but without a solenoid, 70€ (~$80) seems a bit high to me.

[@hendrikwirtz8418]

@@TanksAndTooMuchTime Yes, that is a high price. I would putchase it for 50€ with the adapter but these German manufactures are quite expensive. Some manufacturers sell the soda stream adapter for 15€.

[@luiswicho5301]

@@hendrikwirtz8418 yep, cheap Chinese crap products. You can have it for 15 bucks.

[@luiswicho5301]

@@TanksAndTooMuchTime you'll never find a regulator with a solenoid valve that costs less than 70€. Stop dreaming mate.

[@TanksAndTooMuchTime]

@@luiswicho5301 I just said 70 *without* a solenoid seemed high. You don’t have to take personal offense to comments, my friend.

[@emmanuelgutierrez8616]

Awesome, can't wait to get in U.S. 5 years later.

[@slinkyscapes8530]

Nice and compact 👍🏻👍🏻 great video Mark 🤙🏻

[@MJAquascaping]

Thanks 👍

[@b.s.r.krishnasingh1169]

@ MJ Aquascaping could you please differentiate between CO2 Soda Stream System and general CO2 System? Thank you.

[@motoworldkolkata8800]

Which fertilizer are you using in your tanks please share ?

[@MJAquascaping]

Masterline 1 and 2

[@thequiltedkitchen]

Interesting , we do have a soda-streamer and yes easy to get them…. I’m very interested…as a beginner this is doable …thanks

[@cedric_scape]

Really great! I have been using SodaStream bottles for 3 years, it's the best way to get cheap CO2 for Nanos Tank, I use it with the CO2 Art adapter, it's much bigger , well done Dennerle👍

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah you are one of the few people who I knew that are using SodaStream!

[@ifinicle]

So, I came across an organic option (which I'm sure you've discussed already), but it's the "Exhale - Homegrown CO2" bag. It's a natural bio-production of C02 using the output from mycelium-based strain which produces CO2.

[@ol8719]

Without solenoid it makes no sense and it is dangerous, too. Is the blue Dennerle cover around the cylinder fixed? What shall I do with the bottle once it is empty? Or can I put the cover over the new Soda Stream cylinder?

[@rara5212]

Good question!

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah the blue cover is fixed 😅 So you have to get a second bottle, which already makes the whole thing less attractive. And the empty bottle with the dennerle cover has to be refilled

[@ol8719]

@@MJAquascaping a reducing valve with solenoid and high value metal bubble counter makes 40€. The adapter for Soda Stream is 10€. The Dennerle diffusor around 15€, a used cylinder already filled is further 10€. So, including a hose, for around 80€ you have a professional CO2 system.

[@sebastienmalo6554]

I have a sodastream bottle whit adaptor in backup if m'y 5 lbs tank run empty and i think its a Nice size bottle to work whit small tank

[@jordyb8487]

173,- for a bottle with a nice layout but you have to deliver it in the AH/Blokker and get another looking one. Those cost around 25,- A diffuser is 10,- Airline is 3,- Returnvalve 3,- regulator 40,- So total maybe around 85,-. Instead of paying 173,- go the extra 12,- for a complete set from planted box with a solenoid in it and a normal CO2 bottle.

[@jurgie]

But where do you find a regulator that fits on a sodastream bottle?

[@MauweeWauwee]

@@jurgie why would you even consider sodastream bottle?

[@williammcdowell6257]

@@jurgie In the UK some of the big aquarium on-line CO2 companies supply adaptors they are not expensive, but in the UK supermarket exchange schemes for Soda bottles are not especially economical, and I doubt the stores would take a Dennerle branded bottle.

[@williammcdowell6257]

@@MauweeWauwee In the UK most aquarium shops charge very high prices for exchange on refillable bottles and refilling operatives tend not to welcome ordinary consumers, they tend to be 'trade only'. In the UK we generally resort to fire extinguishers which are then taken to local government run waste sites and are then recycled, refilling is often expensive and very inconvenient and again mostly for trade i.e. fire safety firms. SO this may prove both convenient, not terribly expensive and greener.

[@MauweeWauwee]

@@williammcdowell6257 that is absolutely not true. From 2017 to 2020 been living in Warrington and never had a problem with co2 refills. It was even more convenient then here back home because I bought bottle from same company from where I was buying my refills so they were only exchanging my bottles without waiting or anything 10£ each. Very good service. Clean, friendly, fast and even deliver to your door.

[@rickyabdullah4758]

Nice unboxing

[@MJAquascaping]

Thank you 🤗

[@marcmelein6285]

Mooi systeem. Net de Dennerle aangeschaft.

[@BB-bv6uq]

Looks super easy

[@TankTastic]

Similar to us using paintball tanks. Great for smaller tanks!

[@JordanStirrat]

I have used sodastream canisters for a long time on some of my tanks and use an adapter. Its a great idea for a product! The only things i think are missing on this system is the solenoid which could be added i guess but also a valve on the regulator itself so that you can activate the canister pin after its connected. Having to quickly turn the regulator to avoid co2 going everywhere would seem scary to new hobbyists possibly Also normally sodastreams can be exchanged at shops to a new bottle for a low fee but I assume you they wouldn't exchange the dennerle bottle so this may be another additional cost in the long term

[@Necrosias]

Great that Dennerle jump on that train. I got two SodaStream bottles with a HIWI regulator. You can buy them on Amazon f.e. But it is great, I just have to walk 5 minutes for a new bottle and dont have to drive 40-50 minutes to get a refill.

[@josipmatic1912]

Hi, is it still working good for you? I planned to buy fzone regulator mini dual stage, and put the sodastream adapter, but the support from fzone told me that sodastream does not have enough PSI pressure.

[@Necrosias]

@@josipmatic1912 It works very Well for me, I have a Video in my Channel about it (in German language)

[@melsATL]

Muy interesante. Y fácil de conseguir los recambios.me crea la duda de donde iría y como se pondría la válvula solenoide. Es muy importante para que no haya exceso de co2. Un saludo!

[@Jvdg3m3nt]

The only real benefit that I can see to this product is that it attracts a consumer base who has not yet tried CO2 but are familiar with Soda Stream products. In this case, it makes setting up a system much less scary and more achievable. I don't see any reason as to why an experienced aquarist would use this product as opposed to getting a solid two stage regulator, hosing, and diffuser. The biggest flaw in this product is the lack of solenoid valve. Having to turn this on and off manually is a pain and for new aquarists, increases the risk of gassing off your fish due to the risk of forgetting to switch it off (assuming tank aeration is less than desired), as well as staghorn and other algae outbreaks due to inconsistent CO2 levels that come along with manually setting the CO2 each day and slightly different times.

[@MauweeWauwee]

That's the answer I was about to write. Thnx for saving my time ❤️

[@adrianradu2332]

What I do to prevent that on my manual CO2 system is I never truly turn it off when the photo period is done. Co2 does build up overnight, but never in dangerous amounts. I've tested this in my tank + the oxygen levels and I never got readings below the maximum level of oxygen on the test. Plus, you always have a CO2 buildup ready for photosinthesys as soon as the lights turn on, even if you do remember to turn on the system a bit later. It is not perfect, but it does offer you a wider margin of error. Keep in mind that the main factor in this ecuation that leads to algae blooming is still the light. What that means is that if you do not have enough CO2 built up when the light period starts in a high tech tank, so for example if you were to turn on the CO2 system at the same time as the light, then a lot of the light for the first 1 hour of the period will be used to feed the algae, since there won't be enough CO2 to stimulate photosinthesys enough. By keeping it on overnight but nowhere near full blast, then you allow for a CO2 build-up that can efficiently be used during the next photo period. Evidently, having a lot of plants helps, especially floating plants. Another way to effectively work with a manual system is to perfectly ballance the level of CO2 both during the day and night, so that it never goes over 20-30 ppm, but this is a lot harder as it requires rigurous testing to see which bubble counts works best and even if you find that sweetspot, it will never be the same because the pressure in the cannister changes with time and the counter will not read the same when the bottle is close to the end vs when it was new, so you will have to start adjusting again..

[@luiswicho5301]

@@adrianradu2332 I agree

[@N5Addiction]

Do you need a ph controller if you use co2 with shrimps? I have shrimps dieing everyday im using too much co2 or too much en ph swing

[@MrDavez]

Very nice through job. Once they see this vid,, I'm sure they'll make the changes!! ;-) I agree, maybe they should sell 2 kits,,, 1 with and 1 without a solenoid. or a Solenoid as a stand alone upgrade. Enjoy the easy, relaxing content of your channel, it's what I watch when my tank lights are off! Cheers.

[@mattthanabalan6640]

is this cheaper than regular co2 refills in the us at the local welding supply?

[@colinl854]

I've looked on a website and a solenoid for this system is £65 which is nearly half the price of the main unit! pricing policy gone a bit wrong I think, or a cynical get people hooked then slam them with sky high price upgrade when they realise they don't need co2 at night. It's a nice neat unit I was seriously considering buying this until I saw the price of the solenoid. I'm going to continue with my baking soda and citric acid system for now.🧐

[@Tig3rKen]

Well this is ok but something better on the market also working with sodastream bottles - Strideways Pro CO2 Regulator AND the Plus for multi tank setup... I am buying mine in a few days and cant wait...

[@envywolfe]

Question. Are they refillable bottles ?!

[@MJAquascaping]

Yep!

[@Lucasio24]

Is there a solenoid you recommend for this product?

[@Garv723]

Modern design nice! but OCOPRO has had something on offer for Sodastream bottles for a long time. At least in Germany

[@MJAquascaping]

Didn't know this brand, but looks good 👌

[@mauricematla8379]

Looks line a decent product. Wich one would expact from Dennerle OC. Not sure i would use it. Because my home is about 400 Meters away form a wine/liqour place were i can get regular cilinders. Also much cheaper that the LFS. And would i want to i can get it form a industrial gasses place about 10 minutes cycling by. But i agree it would be a Nice option for small tank likers that do not have such easy acces.

[@1Venger]

Yeah great design but the missing solenoide valve is a deal breaker.... The kit should come with the solenoide as a stable aquarium cannot be guaranteed without one.... imagine having to switch it on and off everyday precisely to the minute....no way.... lol...

[@ros7754]

Usually these come separate right? I know that they are only included in the more expensive sets, but you can always buy them separately as well (inline)

[@praisethesun4997]

@@ros7754 Usually part of the regulator.....attached directly to it. But you could get an inline solenoid. They are about $30 USD....or you can get the one with the ADA logo on it for $130.

[@adrianradu2332]

What I do to prevent that on my manual CO2 system is I never truly turn it off when the photo period is done. Co2 does build up overnight, but never in dangerous amounts. I've tested this in my tank + the oxygen levels and I never got readings below the maximum level of oxygen on the test. Plus, you always have a CO2 buildup ready for photosinthesys as soon as the lights turn on, even if you do remember to turn on the system a bit later. It is not perfect, but it does offer you a wider margin of error. Keep in mind that the main factor in this ecuation that leads to algae blooming is still the light. What that means is that if you do not have enough CO2 built up when the light period starts in a high tech tank, so for example if you were to turn on the CO2 system at the same time as the light, then a lot of the light for the first 1 hour of the period will be used to feed the algae, since there won't be enough CO2 to stimulate photosinthesys enough. By keeping it on overnight but nowhere near full blast, then you allow for a CO2 build-up that can efficiently be used during the next photo period. Evidently, having a lot of plants helps, especially floating plants. Another way to effectively work with a manual system is to perfectly ballance the level of CO2 both during the day and night, so that it never goes over 20-30 ppm, but this is a lot harder as it requires rigurous testing to see which bubble counts works best and even if you find that sweetspot, it will never be the same because the pressure in the cannister changes with time and the counter will not read the same when the bottle is close to the end vs when it was new, so you will have to start adjusting again..

[@praisethesun4997]

@@adrianradu2332 Another option is to add an air stone on a timer set to come on when the lights are off to oxygenate the water. But, I think a big reason to use a solenoid is to save money over time. You'll use 1/3 the amount of co2...assuming you use an 8 hour photo period.

[@adrianradu2332]

@@praisethesun4997 Totally agree with that, it's one of the downsides that using an electric valve covers, but unfortunately, for many simple manual CO2 systems like mine, electric valve is either not included or not possible due to the lack of a depressurizer... If I tried to put a valve on my small kit (and I did try that) the result will be that the lining blows up in an hour after the valve turns on, from all the pressure buildup...

[@legionaquatics]

Will these be for sale in Canada

[@MJAquascaping]

I'm not sure sorry

[@MrChickenselects]

I have no idea how to get co2 other than at my local paintball shop which will refill tanks or at the aquarium store in my city which is pricey.

[@five2112]

This thing looks pretty nice I must say, there are some definite aesthetic choices in their design which win out over other more stereotypical CO2 systems I've seen. Curious how long it would last for, maybe I just drink a lot, but man, my Sodastream goes fast. xD

[@adamgray7185]

I use soda stream in my aqua scape 65 liters and it lasts 3-4 months, just get any regulator and buy the $10 adapter, easy

[@vick5987]

I live In the USA !! How can I purchase this

[@nubi7652]

i hope you review dennerle bio co2 60 .

[@berndtwiest4571]

Mooi product, die ultra diffusor bevalt mij goed.

[@Ekster77]

Ik heb ook 2 van die ultra diffusors, maar na een paar keer schoonmaken in verdunde bleek, liet het keramische schijfje al los. Hoe maken jullie ze schoon? Gerda

[@ronenpatlis330]

Hello bro 😎 Now I can change my nano cylinder 👌

[@magdalenagaton2737]

Is it available in Australia 🇦🇺

[@MJAquascaping]

I don't think so sorry 😟

[@TahmidHaque]

Have you used the Dennerle 6 in 1 water test kit?

[@MJAquascaping]

nope 😊

[@jezusquistus]

Hi Mark I have only seen a few of your videos but I really like them. Watching them made me wonder if I could pull of an aquarium with no glass cover because we have a cat that owns the whole house. In this video I saw your cat assisting with the tubing. How does he or she react to the little interesting fish in your aquaria that are not closed at the top? Our cat would be fishing all day I think 😂

[@aquadesignsbymlt4769]

What Solenoid do you recommend? Is there an attachment available to refill the Dennerle bottle? I refill small portable oxygen tanks from a larger tank. Can we do the same here? Thank you.

[@derspinne]

Nice video as usual. But I can't get one in Canada. No one has it or wants to deliver it even from German as it will be not cheap. Many CO2 regulators on Amazon are quiet awful 😢.

[@AQUAPLANET128]

Informative video👍

[@MJAquascaping]

Glad you think so!

[@happybubble4863]

Hi! Ik heb dit systeem aangekocht en ook een solenoid apart, maar ik weet niet goed waar en hoe ik deze moet installeren, heb je toevallig enkele tips of weet je waar ik hier instructies voor zou kunnen vinden? Ook zag ik na 1 nacht dat er geen bubbels meer te zien waren in de bubbel counter, dus geen idee hoeveel co2 er in het aquarium gaat is dit bij jou ook gebeurt?

[@RGBLL]

Soda stream bottle cost about €13 for me it’s cheaper to have the Colombo system refills cost less although the Colombo is €20 more at purchasing

[@fabioprata9539]

So, the bottle are always one way. This one that comes will end on the trash 🗑?

[@MJAquascaping]

They can be refilled

[@omzdubz]

How can i buy dennerle products in canada?!

[@NebulaMK]

I like it. Doubt I’ll like the price.

[@Palafraza]

Hi, im running soda stream at the moment and you can have nice regulator with adaptor for more than half price of this one. It is nice design but as you said no solanoid so you have to spend more money for this price i would expect better.

[@josipmatic1912]

Hi, is it still working good for you? I planned to buy fzone regulator mini dual stage, and put the sodastream adapter, but the support from fzone told me that sodastream does not have enough PSI pressure.

[@MrVili83]

Salut mark comme d'habitude video super cool et très intéressantes après j'utilise des extincteurs pour éviter les frais d'argent mais celui ci présente beaucoup d'avantage le seul problème ses qu'il n'y a pas d'electrovanne. Ses dommages. Mais ton in boxing reste intéressant. A bientôt. Hâte de voir la prochaine vidéo.

[@ruudvoeten]

Hoi MJ, after your video decided to order one for one of my 2 tanks. Great product. Already think of order one more. Great tip how to fill the diffuser with water. Thx

[@mimiUK1970]

Does anyone know if you can fit the Dennerle solenoid to this set up?

[@ddivesh2709]

how long would this lasts

[@MrVili83]

Et passe de bonnes fêtes de fin d'année et t'es proches.

[@ValentinaW49]

Can this be purchased in U.S.?

[@jackkathryntucker8867]

Would you recommend a particular solenoid? I'm new to it and one site says the tubing could pop so I'm a little confused

[@eliyasdgl]

Excellent

[@TheHarish17]

A complete 2kg CO2 system with Dual gauge and solenoid valve in India just cost around 94 euros

[@stefan00123]

Hoe is deze hervulbaar en wat heb je hiervoor nodig ? Alvast bedankt voor je reactie ✌

[@angry_morbo]

Very nice kitty )

[@ivank8174]

Are u doing any promos on this?

[@MJAquascaping]

No just unboxing and testing

[@amragiza]

Great content .. I would like to see twin tank experiments , maybe against bottle filled with co2 inside the tank like nature tropical fish store found in aquarium co-op video

[@kubkeee]

In my country they just hand to you new soda stream bottle and take the old one back😅

[@MJAquascaping]

Yeah same here, so the one with the dennerle logo you would have to get refilled the traditional way 😅

[@ibrocka]

What is Max pressure because sometimes u need more than 1,5 bar ? U said nothing about the DVC Technik it makes a double chamber pressure reducer unnecessary when it works like dennerle says.

[@willemvantoor3721]

Mooi systeem. Ik heb 500gr fles, co2art systeem en 75 liter cube. Hoelang zou ik hier ongeveer mee moeten doen ? Bubbelspersec ?? 👍

[@MJAquascaping]

5 maanden zou wel moeten lukken. Maar is afhankelijk van hoeveel CO2 jou bak verbruikt

[@kemalgunes1519]

Nice item, but a little bit expensive...

[@tadcsds]

It is a wonderful idea but for 175€ there are other options that are cheaper and better

[@TrynePlague]

Hey, I got a question. Do you have any issues with your cat and the tanks? Or do you just not leave the cat alone in the tank room(s)?

[@MJAquascaping]

No issues at all. Sometimes they drink from the tanks, but that's all

[@TrynePlague]

@@MJAquascaping Oh alright:) I was execting the worst hah

[@fiqsik]

priice..i see on some sites its costs aloot, around 180E depends on shop. for that priice u can have easly normal co2 system with 5kg bottle wiith solonoiid and PH computer. ..way overpriced. :( but looks rly good .

[@tracys_plants]

Was so excited till you said no solenoid. Oh well. I’ve been using soda co2 bottle for years (love the Soda Sense program, you mail in your empties and they send you new ones and label)

[@hardouindenis9530]

Good idea, but without valve, it's a no buy for me. I have a Chinese sodastream with valve. it's working perfectly (for less than 40 euros all included. and 2 euros for the sodastream adaptation). The good point for the Chinese product : you could also use it with fire extinction bottle ! A good idea, but need to do a V2. By the way, thanks for your test about the "colombo" co2 homemade system. I buy one on aliexpress for the single day (64 euros, all included for the 2 liters double). A very, very good product !

[@mj-vo4me]

i think its cheaper to buy a paintball c02 setup 🙂

[@sammora470]

Co2 supermarket have a similar product but I don't think the quality is as good

[@chiljon]

A bit expensive and like you already mentioned no option to turn off at night, better to buy an adapter for your normal regulator/solenoid from CO2Art the Pro-Series CO2 Adapter - Paintball / Sodastream.

[@MarcoB.]

Hi there! :-) I use Sodastream CO2 now for more than a year. I would not want to change it. It's just perfect for me. I also use Sodastream for my drinking water. But I do not use a prebuild set. I bought my regulator from HIWI and the rest like I wanted it to be. I really do not like dennerles idea of black CO2 hoses with white lables on it. Bad design in my opinion. And for us design is important! ;-P

[@MJAquascaping]

That's cool! How much does a refill cost you?

[@MarcoB.]

@@MJAquascaping I buy cheaper zylinders than the original Sodastream ones. Here in Germany we have "Sodastar" from ALDI Süd. There I pay 5,99 € and it's no extra way to drive because I buy food there at same time :-)

[@MJAquascaping]

@@MarcoB. that’s perfect 🤩

[@newbird777]

@@MarcoB. that's good to know. Where I live (Berlin), I guess I only have Aldi Nord, but hopefully they sell Sodastar, too. I never checked before, as I don't own a Sodastream. But I will consider starting to use co2 for my aquarium that way.

[@josipmatic1912]

Hi, is it still working good for you? I planned to buy fzone regulator mini dual stage, and put the sodastream adapter, but the support from fzone told me that sodastream does not have enough PSI pressure.

[@Crustahuis]

Een vulling van een orginele sodastream Red je niet voor 5 euro. Zelf vullen Kan een optie zijn.

[@AlTyler138]

I use a sodastream with an adaptor, on my third bottle and it's been great. 1 bottles lasts about 3 months at 1bps for me. Shame it doesn't come with the solenoid though, that will be a deal breaker for most. Also that nice packaging you mentioned is ruined by the time you open it and see all the cling film...

[@gouzios1]

too expensive.Had ordered in parts complete set 2kg for less than 160 euro online. 2kg, with solenoid and shipping. I have a soda-stream and would love to buy the system for 100 euro maybe, or only the regulator if sold as part separately for half. As idea it is cool. btw they sell adaptors for these bottles to use with norm regulator.