Cedar Point TOP THRILL 2 Updates, SIREN'S CURSE Update & What's Next For The Park? - with Tony Clark

[@SuperForearms]

my kids and I loved going on it as well. We had platinum passes and we got invited to a preseason opportunity to ride it. It was AWESOME

[@KnightrideThrillz]

im so glad to hear that TT2 is on-track to be open again this year on day 1! i got to ride it two times before it closed and i was bummed to not be able to ride it again but now im super hyped!

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@KnightrideThrillz 🤞🙌

[@adamdragster]

This coaster is extremely important and special to me because the original coaster was my number one overall coaster. It debuted the same month and year I was born (May 2003). My first ride was in 2012 and I was terrified. But after riding it the first several times, I fell in love with it. I was extremely impressed with the reimagined version and it still is my number one overall. I rode it 30 times in the short time it was open last year. I was very disappointed about this whole extended closure but I have faith that Zamperla will redeem themselves and get this right. Although I like Top Thrill 2's experience better than the original, I liked the original coaster's theming better, such as the ARMS DOWN, HEAD BACK, AND HOLD ON! and real Dragster sound effects. Literally the best experience of my life!

[@PETESTA]

I’m going in June this year and hopefully I can finally ride TT2 and Sirens Curse, this is probably the most excited I’ve been! Can’t wait!

[@huddyr1112]

Great video 🎉 Thank you for some real information on TT2 Instead of the negative clickbait the usual Coaster channels are posting. Refreshing

[@MarcusLeshock]

I’m just asking questions! I do love many of the coaster channels out there though.

[@maddmaxx46]

I'm really digging your videos. Thanks for all the great content! Subbed

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@maddmaxx46 thanks for subscribing!

[@damonappel]

Wow. Really good scoop interview, and great questions!

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@damonappel Thanks for watching!

[@michaelkucharski4251]

Zamperla will come through, they have too much riding on it. Even if they have issues this year, I assume it run a good chunk of the year will continue working to perfect it. They have the talent and capability to make this happen even lack the track record. Sirens curse will be amazing and glad to see as well. Looking forward to 2 new credits, its been a very long time to have 2 new credits at a Cedar Point as I go frequent enough to ride before the next one is built.

[@gibiati8295]

lol yeah why would anyone doubt zamperla. Besides the 1000 reasons to doubt them.

[@MarcusLeshock]

I hope you’re right!

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

Yeah on the bright side CP felt embarrassed so they added a brand new coaster🤣

[@robw5741]

TT2 is not a new credit, and if SC opens before iron rattler, it will have the record, but regardless it has the record in north america

[@michaelkucharski4251]

@@robw5741 I count TT2 as a new credit because the ride experience is different. Different launch, different ride experience, new track section..credits are subjective.. Powder Keg, isnt a new credit if you had buzzsaw falls? do you count batman clone as individual credits or one? That is the same ride experience even though the location is different. I am sure I have credits some dont count as credits, and I might not be counting others that some do. It doesnt really matter because I am not in danger of having to validate a record as there are many people which much higher numbers

[@caseyalan7813]

Great video, Marcus. Thanks for the updates!

[@ParkVisions]

Thanks for the awesome interview Marcus, really enjoyed listening to all the news!🙌

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@ParkVisions thanks for the watching!

[@jameshammer3765]

I agree with Tony, a log flume needed in the park (not necessarily in Snake River spot). Fun to get a splash and a little wet, not so much soaked.

[@mikes6457]

A modern flume like Catapult Falls would absolutely rule. Ill marathon that all day if I can

[@Coaster101]

Great interview! Appreciate the information.

[@Mforcebob]

Very excited for the upcoming season!!!!

[@MarcusLeshock]

Me too!

[@BlayBlair]

the old log flume is a great childhood memory of mine, but maverick is a truly amazing successor, so we all know CP will build something great where they took out a former icon.

[@MrKsanders1985]

Don't forget this isn't Cedar Point owned by Cedar Fair anymore. It is now under the Six Flags umbrella. The days if record breaking coasters and attractions are over. No more competition. Its ghetto Six Flags.

[@tigerrocks503]

@@MrKsanders1985Actually Cedar Fair still owns it, they are the ones in charge of the whole Six Flags entertainment Corporation as former Cedar Fair higher ups are running the Six Flags name

[@texasbbq3191]

I was an Operations Manager at Cedar Point for a little while and Tony is being very honest here. Here’s the deal, the park will never reveal everything that happened to TT2. (This is my experience talking here). If we started tossing out all of this jargon of everything that was a problem, the media will blow it out of proportion and tarnish Zamperla, Six Flags Entertainment, and Cedar Point into the ground. In fact I have an example, I know you Marcus were with us in 2018 for the Steel Vengeance media day. On the first operating day to the public, the ride had an accident where trains bumped into one another. We got it re-opened that night! Stuff just happens and things have to be adjusted. If we say “there was a manufacture concern, the ride will be open as soon as they clear it”. The media leaves us alone. (What really happened is this). The block brakes and final trim brakes on the brake run were experiencing warmer temperatures for the first time since commissioning and the ride was operating at higher speeds than anticipated, when a train was coming into the brakes and about to stack out, it skidded further than intended and made contact with the train in front of it. If we say all that, the media will take that and go “brakes fail on Cedar Point’s new attraction” and now it’s all over. That isn’t what happened though and the ride manufacturer (RMC) and even the designer were all on site and made the adjustments that same day and we were rolling again. Zamperla’s issue was to the point that remanufacturing trains essentially takes a lot of time. There’s a ton of math and physic’s involved. Again, if the park says more than they have…the media would kill it 😂 I hope this was a little bit insightful, but Tony is right. The amount of testing and the number of eyes watching the ride when it’s being commissioned is rigorous. The Ohio Department of Agriculture is ruthless (as they should be). Those rides really are some of the safest in the entire world. I’ve spent a lot of time when I worked there during the off-season and after the park would close for the day, I know how hard those maintenance folks and ride manufacturers themselves work.

[@Frankenberry]

I feel like that cuts both ways though. When you refuse to give information, people (especially on the Internet) tend to assume the absolute worst case scenario. It gives people the chance to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Seems like the better idea would be to give a detailed account of what's wrong and how you're fixing it .. than to just leave people frustrated and speculating.

[@texasbbq3191]

@ You’d think, but whenever we would be transparent…guests and media still made assumptions or made their own story up anyway with their buzzword headlines. It’s no different than how the mainstream media is today. It was determined in a meeting that there’s zero benefit to continue to be transparent. That’s why since the merger the company is doing things (like closing old rides) without warning because the coaster community and the general public that do pay attention are going to be mad for the sake of being mad regardless. One of my duties was to pretend I was a guest. I’d get in line and strike up conversations with the general public dressed in regular street clothes so I could get their opinions. Didn’t matter when we told them more than necessary. The human mind wants to naturally assume the worst and be negative. So why tell people?

[@MarcusLeshock]

Thanks for your insight!

[@timk987]

Great commen

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

WOW. Notice how much the train shakes on the final launch at 0:54 and the trains/wheel assembly was the thing they didn't engineer properly 😮

[@TGH1966]

Thnaks for the update Marcus.

[@MarcusLeshock]

Thanks for watching!

[@jackluver19]

My friends and I are going to Cedar Point this summer and I hope to ride TT2 and I'm super excited to ride Siren's Curse!!!

[@Paolo_DLR]

Enjoying the recent content!

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@Paolo_DLR Thank you! I appreciate it!

[@sairosekk]

I rode it. It was wonderful. I cant wait until it returns

[@dirtthunder1638]

We are planing on being there in early June. Hoping Sirens Curse in open by then!

[@MarcusLeshock]

Me too!

[@amusement420]

I rode TT2 at one of the preview days. It was very shaky side-to-side on the return track and somewhat going backwards. The top hat was nice to go over again but the wheels are so large you feel higher over the track than TTD the O.G. TT2 is a very slow launch and doesn't make it up very high for a "rollback". I have one true rollback stalled from the top of TTD. It felt like my back was going thru the seat gravity wants you out of it. The seat backs were much thinner on TTD since TT2 is built to go backwards 120mph. The rear spike I liked on Wicked Twister better since it twisted & stalled (and could watch All Wheels Extreme in the stadium). TT2 lockers were free on preview days. The locker attendant told me there's 660 of them by TT2, $3 for 2hrs, $5 for 4 hrs, $2 for every hour OT. If it breaks down, they turn the timer on their phone to make up for the time. So that's not a large up charge such as SlingShot , however the TT2 ride experience would have to be better for me than what I experienced on preview day to pay to play so-to-speak. TTD was my all-time favorite ride. TT2 can't match the TTD initial 0-120mph zip of the cable launch that was the whole point in the first place. TTD was more of a "Top Thrill." It's nice TT2 was well-received and merch was selling well.

[@xxbobsetsfirexx4269]

I missed the last 2 seasons after a decade of being a pass holder.. So im.gonna have 3 new coasters to ride this season. Can't wait for this summer.

[@MarcusLeshock]

Wow that’s amazing!

[@songstressmiku3676]

I also was one of the few who got to ride TT2 during the 8 days it was open. I'm glad to hear that it was Zamperla that made the decision to shut it down not Cedar Point.

[@Frankenberry]

Breakdowns and maintenance issues happen... That's to be expected. What bothers me is how Cedar Point (and the whole company for real) Just REFUSE to just come out and tell us what's going on. It makes things that aren't even that big of a deal seem sneaky or nefarious. I just feel like it's a terrible way to do business.

[@OGeeSUSA]

100%

[@eddieholt8222]

I am so eager to ride TT2, Siren's Curse looks great too. Tony trolled you about snake river's plot.

[@MarcusLeshock]

He always does haha

[@eddieholt8222]

@@MarcusLeshock Sure seems it. He seems to like teasing fans, which is fun. I was disappointed there wasn't a tease in 2024's Christmas vid.

[@carmob7499]

Already booked my Breakers Hotel for opening Day . Can’t wait to Ride TT2 🤙

[@jamesmcmanus1206]

Big risk

[@terraw3814]

Thank you for the update! Dragster will always be moody & that’s okay. She’s a wild child!🎢

[@Spike-sk7ql]

I agree with Tony on the log flume. There isnt much that i agree with him fully on, but this is definitely 100% behind.

[@dindog22]

I hope two new coasters in the same season will mean shorter lines for the other major coasters

[@hollyibanez5415]

The ride was awesome. rode it opening day. but i did notice how it wobbled . but it was still bad ass.

[@woody71692]

Been doing body language and hospitality all my life I heard, felt and vibed doubt all through that interview about tt2 from Tony.

[@AnotherSwissYoutubeUser]

Zamperla decided to improve something, yet all the Toxic coaster elitists continue to bitch about it.

[@tigerrocks503]

Reason they whine is because Cedar Point didn’t go with Intamin who has greatly improved and are assuming Cedar Fair still doesn’t want to work with them and Zamperla was not ready to work on something this big and the only big coasters they have made are crap like Volares.

[@Curt_Randall]

Siren's Curse might steal Maverick's thunder. It looks to be similar, but even more wild. And it has heartline rolls. The original Maverick had a heartline roll also but was removed before it opened.

[@ronaldhartfordjr8299]

I’d love to see cedar point put more flat rides and rides for people who don’t like coasters balance the park out. Make park improvements renovate midways. Put More lights up.

[@amusementvillage]

Yeah Tony wants a log flume. That would be awesome the park really needs one

[@Da_knee7]

First trip to CP!

[@brian99xt]

I still say they missed the theming on Siren.... they should have called it Chtulu or Ktulu (or The Call of Ktulu). Between the haunting music (and it's many covers) and amazing artwork, it just seems like it could have been a more epic feel to it. Unless, and i'm assuming there are, copyright issues. And if that's the case.... I can deal with Siren. Edit: also, the photographer side of cannot wait to get great shot of people's faces on that drop! I've said for years Valravn is the most photogenic drop, and this one i think might be better! Perfect photo spots all over, esp directly below the drop! 📸

[@gyme6077]

I dont think tt2 gonna run again. I heard it was off center but who knows. I got 3 rides in in its last few hours.

[@chadenglish4169]

I would like a log flume too.

[@Zerobar78.]

I got to ride TT2 twice the day before it shutdown, it was great but it sure would be nice to know something, anything as to what happened with the ride closing. It seemed fine the day I rode it. Either way I’ve already renewed my season pass!!

[@Cheezbat]

I’m right with Tony there…the park has no flume rides anymore. They could really use a new log flume concept….maybe a Mack water coaster…just something water related like that.

[@tigerrocks503]

He’s right. Cedar Point has had so many log flume rides in the parks history yet now they are down to only one water ride in the dry park now being Thunder Canyon. They lost: Mill Race (1963-1993) OG Shoot the Rapids (1967-1981) Flopped revival of Shoot the Rapids (2010-2015) White Water Landing (1982-2005) And now Snake River Falls (1993-2024)

[@anderfrank1]

@@tigerrocks503 Really hoping for a GCI or Gravity Group coaster in the newly cleared plot. Would be ok with them replacing Thunder Canyon with a log flume or water coaster.

[@MarcusLeshock]

Are you being serious or are you making fun of my question too? 😂

[@kennethboozer6148]

I feel blessed to be one of the first riders in 2024

[@MarcusLeshock]

Me too lol

[@MTDeVries93]

Same

[@SleepyAirplane-yi4mp]

I live in Ohio I have a session pass to cedar point and I still have not rode top thrill 2

[@camorton2345]

I rode dragster when it 1st opened and it tooknmy breath away as well as Kingda Ka

[@Jeff321]

I might just wait until the fall to hopefully be able to ride both.

[@MarcusLeshock]

Maybe less crowded then too!

[@Kason0va1228]

That was the reason they closed king da Ka lol had to take the parts from that to save face lol

[@themeparklunatic1996]

All parks need a log flume I desperately wish Magic Mountain would get a new one with how hot it gets there it just makes sense especially since their ripping out all the trees

[@HockeyGUY66871]

I also got to ride it. I think it was way better than the original Dragster.

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@HockeyGUY66871 both are/were awesome

[@HockeyGUY66871]

@@MarcusLeshock for sure. The reverse launch is my all time favorite launch. I like it more than the original hydraulic launch,

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

They should have torn that thing down YEARS AGO and left Wicked Twister open. Cedar Point is definitely going in the wrong direction. And they need to get rid of Tony Clark too.

[@jourbittle]

Yo just wondering what is your like position in the community? Are you just a solo journalist or do you like work for a specific company or something?

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@jourbittle I’m a reporter/anchor on the WGN-TV Morning News in Chicago. I cover theme parks for one of my beats.

[@jourbittle]

@ ah that’s awesome! You planning to be at Winter Chillout this year by chance?

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@jourbittleNo I can’t make it … and didn’t get tickets anyways haha

[@reedspace8267]

I'd like a log flume concept that reuses the Mill Race name... but actually races.

[@OhioValleyPAVideo]

@OhioValleyPAVideo 0 seconds ago They had a log flume ride and they took it out. I don't understand what the purpose of tearing out SNF and Frontier Fling was if they weren't going to put Siren's Curse there. And now they have no main stage or celebration plaza anymore. Unless that's what they're going to use the Snake River Falls area for.

[@jerseyharlot]

So then why did Kingda Ka close... ?

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

Because it was a major maintenance headache as is Top Thrill Dumpster. Hopefully that thing is next. Absolutely a money pit and was a debacle on Day ONE

[@eugenemullins4095]

What is your oroblem on this site. Hey Marcus. STUFF HAPPENS! WHY IS THIS EVEN AN ISSUE? All of these complaining, nagging oeople on this site. The ride was not safe. Cedar Point fixed it and now its safe. THATS ALL! DAMN!

[@josealbertoromero8653]

The project was planned for sixflags Mexico, why was it withdrawn from there?

[@davidwells7081]

i want that shirt

[@chitlins73]

What did he say about opening date for Sirens Curse?

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@chitlins73 right now they are just saying “early summer,” but also added that you will likely see it testing in May

[@johnboy1064]

No Tony you just caused Great Adventure to lose the King. Long live the King!

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

It's pretty crazy cedar point went with a prototype again after the TTD being a prototype and bought into Zamperla saying it would be more reliable. Crazy to think TT2, 20 years after the far more complex TTD, was down considerably more than TTD ever was it's first year. Genuinely shocking. Zamperla is entirely at fault, but you can't blame them for figuratively and literally selling TT2 to CP. Of course they're gonna say they can do it more reliably thats part of every bidders pitch that pitched for TT2.

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

Zamperla inherited a nightmare with Top Thrill Dumpster SBNO for close to 3 seasons. The amount of money to maintain that thing is criminal and after the THRID incident on that thing it should have been torn down.

[@dangamber5707]

Great video! TT2 is great and it will be proven this year!

[@MarcusLeshock]

Thanks for watching!

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

Top Thrill DOWNTIME. Get rid of that thing

[@AirplanesAndAirtime]

you should have asked (or at least tried to get an answer, if he isn’t allowed to say) what is gonna happen in the future with six flags and zamperla. If they will continue working together or not.

[@michaezell4607]

What's he talking about SC being only the second tilt coaster in north America when aside from this installation no other tilt coaster currently operates in north America?

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

I’ll believe it when I see it. How many times has that train been taking apart?😂

[@XDwarrior7713]

So it is confirmed about the tilt coaster where is not supposed to go to Cedar point so they took it😊

[@huddyr1112]

What are you trying to say? Read your comment...or maybe I'm reading it wrong but what are you saying

[@anderfrank1]

yep was supposed to go to Six Flags Mexico

[@rgmitsos5]

My mind goes to dark places too

[@MrAlanisrox69]

1. They would never admit it wasn’t safe to ride. 2. They would never admit it won’t be ready to open this summer - they want to sell passes, tickets, etc. 3. Honestly he backpedaled there a bit, “hopefully trains by March. And then testing, certifications” etc. …that’s a backpedal. It won’t be ready opening day.

[@sherryswisher8911]

Look they are doing their best to save this very special ride. Cedar Point could have just closed and dismantle it like its sister ride. We need to give them time yo get this right for decades of service. People just need to get a life between rides.

[@coastercrush3635]

Whatever dude, your just a yes man

[@rolandmorrison8352]

Me and my sister got to ride it May ,1st last year....Fun Ride ‼️

[@MarcusLeshock]

It was awesome!

[@camorton2345]

I wish forn 500ft coaster is that possible in the US ?

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

That's not happening

[@camorton2345]

@timothykaczmarek5871 why won't it ? If Ka was that high I'm sure it is possible

[@billchief397]

Sirens looks like an airtime machine...sorry steel v. You been out air timed.

[@dindog22]

look at Tony all stylish with the new glasses

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

He's a tub of goo

[@dreamy.reader52]

Great interview! This makes me more optimistic for Top Thrill 2!! 🎢

[@AirplanesAndAirtime]

He seemed to get really nervous and standoffish when talking about snake river falls. He tried to move on quickly. I think they got something big planned there he isn’t allowed to talk about.

[@MrKsanders1985]

Zamperla will continue to mess up. They don't know what they are doing.

[@tigerrocks503]

@@MrKsanders1985 Do you work for them to prove this?

[@shanepetyko8004]

What about ka? They ripped it down to market tt2 and it sucks.

[@Bnizzofashizzo]

Let this be the last day of you avoiding rehab. This comment didn’t even make sense. Most people in the general public have never even heard of six flags, New Jersey or Ka. Those two have nothing to do with one another so how on earth you thought that it made sense to bring it up here I’ll never know.

[@shanepetyko8004]

@ most people have never heard of six flags then why would cedar point take there name as six flags corp. instead of cedar fair. Also , to reference rehab is completely unnecessary and honestly shows your Ohio class. lol.

[@shanepetyko8004]

@ seriously I'm talking about rollercoasters and you tell me to check into rehab that's sick sounds like you need help.

[@Bnizzofashizzo]

@ rehab, sir... Rehab...

[@eugenemullins4095]

You know. Why dont ALL OF THESE people on this site complaining and whining like crybabies, Cedar Point should LET ALL OF THESE PEOPLE RIDE IT. JUST FOR YOU! WHILE ITS BROKEN. Cedar Point is a fun, safe park...where people enjoy themselves and DONT ALWAYS WHINE. STAY HOME!

[@money200476]

I hope it doesn’t take 10 years to ride it! 😂

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

With 2 trains, being a new attraction and Cedar Point's horrible operations, make sure you went to the potty before you get in line. Kings Island's operations are soo much more efficient than Cedar Point. I was an employee at Cedar Point back in the day, and if we weren't getting 'numbers' on our rides, heads WOULD ROLL under the Park Operations higher-ups, who really paid attention to that stuff. Back when Cedar Point was #1 in the industry, sadly not anymore.

[@raulsanz603]

This one is for my fellow Tony Clark and whole Cedar Fair (Six Flags) for stealing Siren's Curse from SFM: 🤬🖕

[@KingsDominionfan50]

Blame the government.

[@raulsanz603]

@ The government told them since the arrival of Six Flags that they wouldn't get any permissions to deforest. When SFM didn't get the approval to cut trees in order to install Sirens Curse SFM made an official statement that said they won't cut any trees, "the park found a solution and the 25th anniversary unique coaster will be placed in other zone in the park". A month later the new owners of the chain (Cedar Fair) announced that a new coaster will open in its favorite park Cedar Point because that park is lacking coasters (17) and SFM have a lot of them (9). Then Six Flags announced that Mexico now won't get any attraction to its 25th anniversary until 2026 when we will get a Family Boomerang and then SFM just turned off the comment section on all its social medias, what a solution! Someone is lying here SFM didn’t have a real solution or Six Flags (Cedar Fair) just said Fk 0ff and give us that coaster. In this video Tony Clark says "another park in our system could not build it so we were able to take advantage of that" which is pretty convenience when you have surveys that tells you that people want that exact particular type of coaster while in Mexico people are desperate for a Family Boomerang.

[@chelseafn104]

Tony should have been fired many years ago! Cedar Point hasn’t been the Roller Caster Capital of the World for many Years!

[@JamesSchubert-xz9iy]

This will end up being the worst merger of all time. Two poorly run companies, combined into one AWFUL one!

[@KingsDominionfan50]

Cedar fair “poorly run” is something I’d never hear but k

[@sairosekk]

​@KingsDominionfan50 right? I've never heard such a quote

[@JamesSchubert-xz9iy]

@KingsDominionfan50 Any company that would merge with a dumpster fire like Six Flags, is obviously in BIG trouble!!

[@MrKsanders1985]

The ride sucked. Sirens Curse is lame. A hand me down coaster

[@MarcusLeshock]

@@MrKsanders1985 That’s a pretty awesome “hand me down” lol

[@tigerrocks503]

@@MarcusLeshock Ignore him Marcus, he’s just being a negative nancy. -w-