What Sweet Baby Inc SHOULD learn from the Stanley Cup

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For years now, media companies like Sweet Baby Inc have been trying to cater to a diverse market but their latest outing, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League flopped and caused a lot of controversies with gamers. Meanwhile, the Stanley Cup, a product made by a company that has catered to outdoorsman and construction workers for 100 years suddenly found itself as the hottest new accessory for women even though it was originally considered a flop. Is there anything companies like Sweet Baby Inc could learn from this? Maybe.
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[@gregwilliams4926]

Remember when people used to create diversity characters without trying or shouting to the heavens they're better than fictional straight white men? Stanley Cup is not what I expected as an example, but very educational.

[@pepita2437]

And they didn't try to sell their characters by lying that their character was the first ever 'insert diversity' one. XD Remember that post that one of the SSKTJL developers made? It was told in the post that Deadshot appearing on the cover was the first time a black person was put on the cover of an AAA games. People started posting AAA games which had a black person on the cover in the replies. ;P

[@magistersolis.3750]

They still do go to Anime Sou Sou No Friren is diverse and has a good story.

[@rev3274]

Nerd is about to show here.. but when I grew up Star Trek DS9's Sisko and Voyager's Janeway were both incredible actors. They didn't need to brow-beat you constantly with the race or the gender of the individual, they showed it through the merit in what they did. Those are just two very simple examples.

[@dresdenlancer9012]

"Are you telling me I can't use this to kill a rattlesnake?!" I'm dead. The indignation in your voice was perfect, J.

[@humrH2360]

For some reason, I read that in RussianBadger's voice. Naturally, that was followed up with a "Sign me THE F***. UP."

[@death_reaver6638]

3:57 this is her basically just confirming that she was never told "No" as a child

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

Yup

[@cts1234567]

Was not expecting to learn why stanley cups became so popular in a video about sbi, but it did explain why sbi is so terrible and what should be done to break into new markets.

[@AL-ws5yi]

I like your calm take on this issue.

[@thaipankatima658]

If they had only changed the enemies of the Suicide Squad to the Syndicate instead. Imagine fighting off Ultraman, Owlman, and the other evil heroes. The reception of the game would've been so much better. We could've partnered with Jester and alternate versions of villains. How cool would that be!?

[@QTRemnant]

It would also have lined up the comics since Waller dealt with earth 3 a while ago (like last year or something). Definitely wouldn't have to hear people complain so much about something bad happening to their precious justice league (Pure Sarcasm since the problem is quite clearly way bigger than that).

[@ShamanSage]

but that would require them doing research and reading, not just watching that lame movie and we all now how anathema they are to "research"

[@TheLunarLegend]

I've been saying the exact same thing, the writing probably still would've been garbage but at least they wouldn't drag fan favorite characters down with it.

[@dresdenlancer9012]

Conversely... use suicide squad members that can actually fight the justice league like Dr. Light, Parasite, and Enchantress...

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

That’s literally just LEGO DC Super-Villains.

[@Underworlddream]

If they want to add diversity to get more different groups of people they should hire "A Teir" Writers and Creators. Not Tumblr Reject to write self inserted.

[@desmondanimus1454]

Well, you know what they say, birds of a feather flocks together.

[@elriano1]

I think they believe that it's impossible for people to write characters of other races and sexualities. We see this happening a lot with actors now where if an actor isn't the same sexual orientation/race as the character they're portraying there's always a backlash from these people even if the casting is spot on.

[@ArtemisMidnightVT]

That's what I've been saying! Companies like SBI aren't Writers and they're not Creators, They're not even that creative! they are Tumblr Rejects who bully cartoon, movie, TV and video game studios and comic publishers into publishing their Power Fantasy Self-Insert Fan-Fictions. Sure, I like to write and share my fan-fictions and fan-art, but at least I don't throw a temper tantrum like a psychopathic toddler just because my Head-Canon is not actual canon. I Don't! I make Fan-Art and Fan-Fiction for fun! Something the SBI Mafia loves to ruin for other people with fear and intimidation tactics.

[@humrH2360]

@@desmondanimus1454 More like "Misery loves company." These people are pathetic excuses for human beings who got hit with that reality upon becoming adults. But instead of getting the hint and growing the hell up, they decided to dedicate themselves to turning society into their own struggle session. The worst part is that, with the state of the Western entertainment industry as a whole, along with the looming threat they present outside of which, _their efforts are being rewarded._ It just shows how society has grown weak by allowing overgrown toddlers to bully it into letting them control the course of culture.

[@SaiyanInTraining]

Imma custodian who never heard of Stanley products. I literally just looked over at a few of the teachers' desk and they all have them.

[@VerdantRange]

This is the first I've heard of the Stanley brand cups. When I saw the title of this video, I thought it would be about what Sweet Baby Inc could learn from The Stanley Cup, as in the hockey trophy.

[@npcimknot958]

I actaully end up buying Stanley cups cause of the negative wtf videos .. thoguht it was funny but it was exactly what i was looking for and they are low key really cute haha. End up from laughing at a stupid fad to buying it lol

[@ghoulchan7525]

@@npcimknot958i mean if it fills your need as a cup. it's not a bad thing to have.

[@EquesTron]

That was a cool story about Stanley cups. I have one myself with a flip straw, and fits nice and snug into my car cupholder. However, since it can't kill a rattlesnake, it's just a solid 8/10 cup.

[@mjtannertwins]

The rattlesnake thing is truly disappointing but I do like the cups too. I have one too, the one with the regular straw and it really is convenient and cute but how can Stanley have a century of "try to break it, I dare you" ads only to make a cup that you're not supposed to break?

[@phantom-ri2tg]

@@mjtannertwins I am a bit confused. It said the lead was a problem only if the cup broke. But you never said the cup would actually break. Also no assaulting innocent snakes.

[@plumaDshinigami]

Apologies, but there's no saying this without sounding rude: do you honestly think a company which admits to use mafia-type intimidation to change and take over games is willing to learn? SBI is on a level of cartoonish evil which was often seen in parodies and has gone beyond satire.

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

I hope M is okay…

[@olympusthedarkone83]

I’ve been asking where M is forever now

[@hippoman3814]

It's like when companies try to appeal to kids, by dumbing down the stories, not realizing little kids will love deep stories or edgy bloody stuff, because the adults love it. So in trying to appeal to a new demographic, they instead make media no one wants to watch

[@dwarfdigger135]

Literally this

[@samueltitone5683]

As someone who has worked with both teenagers and elementary schoolers, can confirm. They are edgy little shits.

[@metronome8471]

Stanley never called me any type of ist and Dakota Johnson didn't blame the fans. That makes me respect them more.

[@Somewhat-Sinister]

Probably the only channel on YT that'll have a calm collected take on the issue. It's good that people are passionate, but it can lead to outbursts or people not taking them seriously. This was an amazing way to compare and explain it.

[@oskar6661]

The problem with all movie studios is that they're not hiring writers, directors, filmmakers, cinematographers, etc. They're hiring rabid activists...who don't see a "female" audience or a "male audience", but their perceived and desired "activist audience". Due to where they live and work, and their echo-chamber social circle, they actually seem to think that the rest of the normal world lives inside their weird little space. A normal woman is 10x more likely to go see a Marvel film with someone like Jason Momoa in it...than Brie Larson.

[@vagrant2863]

Also important to note that Sweet Baby was the one to organize the controversy initially and has tons of connections to less than scrupulous people. All the mass media types are going to bat for them despite how they have no leg to stand on. It truly is Gamergate 2.

[@LadyOmbre3]

Thank You for this video. I didn't know the whole history of the Stanley Cup. You made such great points. Yes, this a great example of how to increase your customer base. Don't insult or belittle them, just create a new and invite them to the party to share.

[@RaspK]

8:40 Something I only just now found out (while looking into the topic of viewership out of curiosity, by coincidence) is that *_that_* scene *_was_* an insert, and that test audiences hated it so much (N.B.: even the people working on the film were uneasy about it), that we ended up with a build-up sequence to partially make it seem more justifiable. All those earlier sequences featuring those characters were added *_after_* they were told the scene was terrible.

[@nkohler5601]

According to Sweet Baby Inc themselves, they were brought on late into the game development qnd were only did small things like the character Bio (so calling green lantern a narc and Lex Luthor gushing over Wonder Woman is all them). The main story had all ready been completed and mort of it animated. So while there is some criticism to be placed at Sweet Baby's feet. Most of it was Rocksteady games

[@ZanyCartoons]

I think the John Stewart hate was more about him being a cop more than him himself since Green Lanterns are technically considered "space cops" and Deadshot wrote it himself that he barely knew the guy.

[@John-fk2ky]

If he barely knew the guy he should not have been ABLE to write a bio. Actually, the whole idea is kinda stupid because there’s a 99% chance that unless forced to as part of the Suicide Squad almost none of the Justice League members’ individual rogues galleries would ever hear of, never mind encounter a hero other than their own (Batman being Harley’s and Deadshot’s, Flash being Captain Boomerang’s) except in a news report. If they were going to do it at all, Lex should have been the sole author for the simple reason that he has very good reasons to know as much about the JL as he can.

[@man_enough955]

I'm one of those who grew up with "Justice League the Animated Series" and have grown respect towards John Stewart.

[@kelpietales4503]

​@John-fk2ky looking how they had Lex write Wonder Woman's bio... still think they would have messed it up.

[@kap1618]

I get that, but any grown adult should know why the phrase "one of the good ones" targeted towards a black guy is racist.

[@GuiltlessGear]

I think people are hesitant to admit that media is essentially a product, so no one else would think to compare stanley-or should i say, the buy guide's- marketing strategy to sweet baby inc's. very clever, J.

[@kelpietales4503]

What's also sad is that DC Comics has a sort of "Stanley Cup" character that would fit in the more female driven Magical Girl/ Miraculous audience in Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld. She's kind of like Shazam/She-Ra hybrid with a gemstone aesthetic and even had a flying unicorn, too. She's usually brought out every once in awhile for DC to do something with like recently had a YA novel and DC Comics mini series, but nothing never really took off. Maybe if she got a cute cartoon other than the DC Nation miniseries from years back and fashion/action doll line aimed at young girls who like Magical Princesses it may prove more successful than having Amethyst flop in cape comic market or rely too much on "Wonder Woman in High School" media even though I did like both versions of DC Super Hero Girls. Hell, IIRC Amethyst was suppose to be a toy line that came with comics and while the toys didn't go anywhere, the pretty art saved her. But the real deal breaker is the actual talent behind the project that knows and likes what they are doing and won't be ready to insult people who don't agree with them like The Buy Guide. And even without Kevin Conroy's passing, the whole game feels like a mean-spirited tear down of superheroes while saying the bad guys are cooler, which has been going on for ages. Theres also something "special" how they have their blackwashed Deadshot insult an original and beloved black character in John Stewart.

[@Tail_sez]

Oooh, me and my aunt have wanted an Amethyst movie for years! So happy to see a fan of the comics out in the wild! Sadly, I think a movie would be terrible, given the state of the live action film industry...

[@Demolitiondude]

Stanley is more if it ain't broke don't fix it. Entertainment more accurate current year Entertainment is doing the principle skinner meme. No the kids are wrong meme.

[@notgonnapay]

Wow, that was a great analogy, J. Instead of giving girls films they would like, they just re-skin male characters as female and expect girls to love them. I, for one, would love to see magical girls make a comeback. Unfortunately, I feel like a lot of people would consider them sexist (they’ve been calling Sailor Moon sexist for nearly a decade at this point).

[@SpectrumPOV]

It's impressive how much research you put into these unique videos.

[@mk_wizard]

PS: The thing people need to understand that at the end of the day... some products really are going to attract the same consist demographic no matter how much times change. Like another KZbinr said, it's like if Cover Girl suddenly decided to switch gears and make products (including make up) for men. It's just not going to work. The main audience for fashion is and always will be women and not because people are bigoted or sexist. It's because numbers and facts say so. Most men do not wear make up nor do they want to take up wearing it. Sure, you can make aftershave, moisturizer and beard wax or something, but it will never even reach half the quota the make up women buy. It's the same thing with comics. The main demographic consists of dudes. And for the record, I'm a woman who loves comics and even WRITES comics who has long since accepted this. The big difference here is that the gender, race, religion, etc. of the character doesn't matter to the main demographic. They just want the MCs to be cool and for the story to be great. They don't want political statements, to watch their favourite characters be humiliated or become disposable, or feel like the comics are shaming them for being what they are (I don't think anyone enjoys being made to feel that way when reading a book or watching a show/film). It has nothing to do with being anti-diversity. A large majority of these dudes are liberal leaning themselves and are cool with the MCs not being like them. Right now, the industry really can do better and needs to graciously accept this.

[@ARC-0606]

Facts! It's definitely has driven me away from a lot of big name brands in the comic book industry (aside from the old moon knight and old Spider-Man Noir) it's why I have mainly been going to the independent ones. It's as one of the channels I watch says "They hate doing this job they'd rather be doing something else" which many have said they hate it and their audience. It's also funny might I add they think that oh it's some new concept having a certain race, gender, etc has never been in any sort of big name brands whether comics or movies. An example of a good well known superhero who's a woman is OG Wonder Woman. She had her flaws and has gone through struggles and character development. She's also a good example of a strong bada$$ woman. Like just make new good characters. That go through character development. That have weaknesses. That struggles. Because I can't relate to this almighty perfect can do no wrong characters who look down on people. And the fact some companies think someone can't relate or even see themselves in a character that doesn't look like them is absolutely dumb. Also if you have comics published can I ask for the name would love to check it out when I can.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

Stanley's example was successful because they didn't do it at the cost of their original customer. Like you said they've been in business for over 100 years and you don't drop customers that loyal for anything. For whatever reason gaming companies are convinced they can't get new customers without telling the original ones to go to hell; like They're allergic to money or something.

[@Tony_409]

For Sweet Baby to learn, it has to admit it was wrong which will never happen

[@animezilla4486]

So sweet baby was wrong about everything and those complain about them are always right I believe sweet baby inc wrong about something the same could be said about those who are complaining against them they are not always right either

[@magistersolis.3750]

@@animezilla4486Hey it’s you so how it been. Are you tired yet talking and not listening bud. For the rest of you the situation is simple Sweet Baby Inc. Made many bad games consumers gathered up to share the games they made (using their own company webpage game listings) Then Sweet Baby like Babies cried after everyone started smelling the accident they had. Then cried to daddy Comic journalists and gov. to bail them out attack the consumer. Then decided to start taking pot shots at a beloved anime manga creator of DRAGONBALL! Right after his untimely passing. So yes they can be in the right. In their DREAMS!

[@peter_griffith522]

​@@animezilla4486if hating whites if fine than that's racist asf.

[@Noqtis]

When was Sweet Baby Inc or any of those wokies right? They kept repeating how Marvel is a banger because the first movie did so well. How right they are you can see looking at marvels 2. It's the same with the games sweet baby inc worked on. Sure some didn't bomb since they stood on the shoulders of previous titles. The ones who didn't bombed. So either Sweet Baby Inc. makes those games worse by putting a focus in development on things that don't improve the game or Sweet Baby Inc. does nothing and is a complete waste of money. If they would improve games. The games they worked on would have some quality to it but in reality companies without a focus on DEI are making bank in the industry. The hype a stellar blade is generating is bigger than the hype god of war and spiderman could build up. Friggin spiderman vs. some chick no one knows. Because spiderman is woke and stellar blade is based

[@nowherefool5869]

not gonna happen. in their minds they believe that one can never be racist against whites, nor can anyone ever be sexist against males or straight couples. Sweet Baby Inc are very much anti-white, anti-straight relationships, and anti-male.

[@KingOfMumbles485...]

Disney: Everybody do the FLOP.

[@MechaNintendoMast]

I would have never thought to compare these but you made the best take I've heard yet.

[@CEWIII9873]

MJ You have a passion and a gift describing how successful marketing serves a need to customers. Your excellently connected the Stanley cup to contemporary issues. My father had an old Stanley cup he loved and took with him to work nearly everyday. Your info-doc on the success of the Stanley cup was SO good I stopped what I was doing to pay attention until you were finished. Bravo. May I recommend focusing on these in the future? Good luck.

[@timmygilbert4102]

Funnily they nailed 💅 it with Wandavision the scarlet witch tv series, then dropped all the ball everywhere

[@KperaOfficial]

correction: kevin conroy's last role WAS in suicide squad, he was supposed to make some voice lines in other projects but he died before recording for anything BUT suicide squad. RIP kevin conroy

[@Fafnd]

Take a shot every time stanley is mentioned lol.

[@mihailos8701]

Thanks for a great video. I'm especially grateful for you telling the story of Stanley success, because I had no idea it could've been like that, and because it's actually very inspiring for people like me, who can stick to specific interest, for one reason or another.

[@collin2049]

Great video, I had no idea how extensive Stanley history is!

[@freman007]

Thank you for the interesting history of the Stanley Cup. I'm not American so I'd never heard of it. I do have a pair of Crocs though. They're very comfortable. No accessories though.

[@man_enough955]

This is about 20 minutes of: 1. Give the customer what they want. 2. Give the customer what they want. 3. Give the customer what they want.

[@christscrackers647]

Hollywood in general needs to learn how to connect to its audience once more and provide them with an actual product they WILL enjoy. Provided they can actually decide who their audience really is.

[@animezilla4486]

The problem is audience and Hollywood don't not want to try to meet in the middle

[@christscrackers647]

@@animezilla4486 Uhhhh... I think you mean the "Don't want to try to meet in the middle" there dude. And yeah they don't, because Hollywood in general keeps reminding us as the audience that they hate us.

[@thatsnotoneofmeatsmanyuses1970]

Some of Stanley's stubbornness had a lot to do with why they were still making durable quality products after 100 years. I suspect those days are over, or soon will be, now that they are selling to color/style collectors.

[@LordPlagus777]

You're assuming they're capable of learning in the first place.

[@nived3211]

Esg doesn't just taint a single product. It sinks entire franchises and companies.

[@nowherefool5869]

wow. you have such a unique take on this Sweet Baby Inc fiasco. i like it.

[@wesstewart9212]

Great take on this topic! I've seen several of your videos over time and now I've subscribed.

[@grein545]

Sounds like a separate game titles / IPs / original franchises is in order. But given the out of control budgets of AAA titles they try to appeal to every demographic with one title and fail miserably. Seems smart to par down budgets and spread the risk across a larger number of titles that try to appeal to different markets, rather than the monolith title

[@TheOtakuNinja69]

I like both superheroes and magical girls.

[@Gigabowser20]

I seriously love your videos, you are so analytical and present things in an interesting way that even if it is a topic like this I don't care about, I still end up finding the videos interesting. Keep up the good work! Seriously considering becoming a channel member soon once I am able, and that's something I don't do often! Anyways agree with most of this once again. I didn't know that the writers for suicide squad were different from the rest of Arkham but that explains the terrible writing, especially with

[@ricomannen2502]

Speaking of Magical Girls. Have you heard of "Gushing over magical girls" it's a really good anime that puts a spin on the magical girl genre and gets really interesting later on

[@draykohunter6805]

👀I see what you're trying to do here

[@ricomannen2502]

@@draykohunter6805 It's not for any malicious purposes

[@fakhrirasyad547]

Whats it about?

[@ricomannen2502]

@@fakhrirasyad547 In short: "Utena Hiiragi, a girl who wishes to become a magical girl herself, is approached by a mascot character named Venalita, who transforms her not into a magical girl but a general of the evil organization Enormita. Despite trying to get out of it, Utena is blackmailed by Venalita and forced into a fight against Tres Magia."

[@disappearingangel4972]

It's a little on the mature side tho

[@QTRemnant]

I've been trying to stay away from anything and everything with people talking about Sweet Baby Inc because I couldn't care less about them, but the title was too good to pass up.

[@wendyhotchkiss7772]

It’s not just the movies that are failing; the merch is struggling too. There are mountains of Wakanda Forever Shuri-Copters sitting unsold in discount stores everywhere. 🚁😢

[@dragoonfirestorm1171]

That was an interesting segue going from showing clips of the Marvel franchaise created by Stan Lee to then start discussing the Stanley cup. The rise in popularity of the Stanley cup must have been confusing at first to hockey enthusiasts with the name already existing for the trophy named after lord stanley of preston.

[@taurusteelpan]

Another good example of your Stanley Cup scenario (which ironically is related to comics) is the Young Justice series. I believe the series was originally on the Cartoon Network and did well but NOT with the intended demographic of young boys, but instead with young girls and older men/women. Understandingly it was problematic because the network wanted to market merch for boys, so the network cancelled it (which led to the network creating Teen Titans Go!). With a few years of advocacy (especially ironically from mostly older male comic fans) Netflix bought the rights to the series and made a few seasons of the series successfully.

[@plungecastnz]

Hey, MJ Great research and thoughts on this comparing the two.

[@blurrydawgo5403]

1:40 Well, it seems we were mistaken - the new Crisis on Infinite Earths movie is the last performance of Kevin Conroy as Batman… and thank god for that, really.

[@geekyphoton5584]

J, this was a very interesting, informative, and entertaining video!

[@xtreme1002003]

A very interesting video. I like how you broke down the Stanley situation and how their problem with their Quenchers was solved such that it became a success that they would have never dreamed of it becoming. That said, I don’t like the fact that people refer to it as the Stanley Cup because I’m a big Vegas Golden Knights fan and Quenchers aren’t THE Stanley Cup.

[@Burns_RED]

Hey, J, are you or M familiar at all with Pretty Sammy? The parody magical girl anime?

[@Dr._Nicolas]

hmmn reminds me of the by gone era of things for girls and things for boys, movies for teenage girls and movies for boys, and movies for women and movies for men, you know actual cinema where everyone had their own thing to enjoy, but seems like they find lets say "romantic comedies" too misoginistic and tried to get into the superhero market as if your romance fan would like seen a superhero movie just because mark rufallo is there. Anyways original works always better.

[@ixiahj]

That's an interesting point about Black Widow. If they wanted diversity, why didn't BW get her own movie? They wanted Captain Marvel for some reason. Maybe their definition of "diversity" isn't the same as most people think it is.

[@tell-me-a-story-]

Quencher cup- “It’ll quench ya! Nothings quencher.”

[@EpixAndroid]

This Suicide Squad game sounds a LOT like the plot of LEGO DC Super Villains.

[@scasimir1000]

A great idea. Take the new black widow as she's hunting to find her sisters the real taskmaster cubs into play who's been working with shield. He's pissed that they made a Walmart $5 bargain bin version of him and now he's going out hunting killing every black widowing get his hands on as well as killing the knock off. You can make it a story where the New Black widow is racing to save as many of her sister's as she can with the bare bone resources that you has compared to taskmaster who has the whole shield backing them up even though he's technically altering and lying about what he's doing. So essentially the story is black widow has to go up a mountain to get her task and goals done or taskmaster is sitting halfway up on the restimating her and that can be his downfall.

[@acrapid7845]

The story of Stanley Cup is crazy, people are crazy, world going in a trash because we want that nice toy.

[@shooterdownunder]

Since I live in a country full of venomous snakes I should probably get myself one of those Stanley cups

[@nowhere529]

Gexit = Gamer exit, just walk away and play retro games instead, they are better anyway.

[@DArealCHAZZ]

Boycott, all games play older games until these companies closed their doors.

[@Ichi.Capeta]

Everyone can learn from something and they would do it. Why? Because mistakes can be costly. It is just a certain group have an idelogy or agendas while trying convince everyone else that they don't.

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

People talk about how the woke can learn, but learning requires intelligence.

[@AL-ws5yi]

Ouch, burn!🔥

[@FreighttrainDaniel1225]

I think zombies are gonna get canceled because they don’t have functioning brains

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Some do learn. It just takes a lot longer. Like the kid that got held back a grade however many times.

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

@@KeybladeMasterAndy When they learn, like Bill Maher and JK Rowling, they stop being woke.

[@John-fk2ky]

@@bunnywithakeyboard7628 Bill never learns. He can’t mentally grasp that everything he disagrees with in terms of woke stuff was generated by the stuff he supports.

[@Handles_AreStupid]

Got it, they should put forced lead into games...

[@Suspence008]

I love your narration. 🙂

[@skaven969]

captain marvel should be a magical girl

[@guilherme5094]

3:50 She's in a public place speaking to a bunch of people and saying how she likes to commit the crime of extortion, yes, that's extortion, and no one in the audience stands up and says: Well madam, that seems wrong! I'm going to call the police." And personally if their service were truly needed, there would be no need for threats.

[@user-hj8oh9kh7v]

Her benefactors are actual criminals ! What do you expect

[@roam980]

14:35 imagine how the conversation that woman would have in jail "So what are you in here for?" "I stole cups" 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

[@justinvideo5367]

Thank you!

[@crownedshyness9656]

With that title, I’m confused & intrigued.

[@blackdragon5274]

Honestly, nothing has been successful because it was diverse, but in spite of it

[@Match25]

And then there's the fact that you're not only do they cram In these characters they talk down to the character that everyone likes.

[@JamesScholes]

Trying to appease the modern audience is like chasing unicorns...

[@sonicroze]

I thought that was a neat story about the cups. I don't have a Stanley one, but I've been gifted a couple knock-offs.

[@KingOfMumbles485...]

Sweet Baby Inc needs a time out.

[@trashydrifter7557]

Perfect representation!!!!

[@Dragonkid1801]

I have no idea what the Stanley Cup has to do with video games, but let's see how this video goes

[@npcimknot958]

Know your target audience vs forcing your views on an audience you don’t kow at all.

[@ObIitus]

Never attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to malice. They knew exactly what they are doing, pushing the message even if it costs them audience.

[@Total_Malarkey]

There isn’t any hope for a company like Sweet Baby. They’re stuck in their own ways and won’t do anything to change their behavior, instead blaming gamers for their failures.

[@tell-me-a-story-]

Why are all super hero stuff for adults these days? Kids don’t even get to have kids stuff anymore. And they’re all so derivative. everyone is a parody of Superman or a child of Batman.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Regarding the Green Lantern bio in Suicide Squad, I assume one of the squad members wrote it? It seems like it was written by a character.

[@John-fk2ky]

They are, but it’s by a character that was RETCONNED to being black calling a black space police officer various negative things. Compare that to Wonder Woman, praised by Lex Luthor of all people in VERY OOC terms.

[@liljenborg2517]

I'm not sure these media companies are trying to expand their audiences (especially comics). They're explicitly trying to REPLACE their audiences. Current year comics writers are pretty out-in-the-open about their belief that classic comic heroes are "Nietzschean power fantasies" whose fans are "nerds" who can't get a girlfriend (admittedly that's a bit redundant, there, the core definition of a nerd is a male whose hobbies are so inherently "uncool" that no girl would date them). They're trying to appeal to the "modern audience" the _know_ is out there. Somewhere. They showed up for Barbie, didn't they? Eventually . . .

[@dannysmi7162]

What? A nerd just means someone that’s knowledgeable and enthusiastic about a subject. It’s a neutral term.

[@wieldylattice3015]

Word of advice, the metal pipe impact sound effect is a bit out of place when out of sync with an impact. Try to sync the audio of the effect with the exact frame an object makes impact, otherwise it comes off as misplaced

[@user-ow6kq1ll9l]

I’ve noticed that M is missing in videos lately? Has she burnt out and became a redactor?

[@Burns_RED]

Both look like a scam to me

[@npcimknot958]

That not the point.. The point is.. the marketing for stanely knew their target audience and shaped themselves or that audience - aka the pastel colours, making it more trendy vs sbi forcing the audience to change for them

[@Burns_RED]

@@npcimknot958 I know what the point was. Both of them are still scams to me though.

[@Cationna]

I know next to nothing about gaming, but why is the company that consults on sexism, racism, inclusion, and things like that called "Sweet Baby Inc"? I'm struggling to find any connotations of this phrase which aren't problematic, is that... the point...?

[@chengliu872]

Sometimes companies choose random names, idk why. For example, there is a chain of stores in my area that sells sex toys and the like. The chain is called Castle Megastore and at least one location is shaped like a castle. Idk what a medieval theme has to do with sex toys, but it must be working considering they have at least 3 locations.

[@DH-xw6jp]

​@@chengliu872 it's to disguise their true intentions. If you have a bag from castle megastore, nobody will assume what is really in the bag unless they are also a customer.

[@AretaicGames]

The difference is that no one ever thought that old-style Stanley thermos bottles were an evil that must be eradicated without mercy.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Honestly the whole sweet baby inc controversy is just a mess that I just want to move on and forget it even happened.

[@John-fk2ky]

To be honest, that’s not a smart idea, seeing as how the people behind that company exist and want to destroy gaming, or at least gaming that doesn’t fit their definition of DEI. Closing your eyes and ignoring it doesn’t make the problem go away.

[@animezilla4486]

​@@John-fk2kyI disagree first of all is there any proof that sweet baby inc to destroy gaming. If you don't like their games that's totally fine but don't you think this is getting out of hand the controversy you're acting like sweet baby inc broke the law or something which they didn't so let me ask you this you are starting a war is that a smart idea

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@animezilla4486 I agree this is getting out of hand literally.

[@mazkeraid4039]

Regardless, they deserved to be called out because no matter how minor, they should keep their mouth shut. But yeah, we got bigger fish to fry.

[@scasimir1000]

You make a lot of sense and unfortunately when it comes to these companies who are being blackmailed half of them by tactics of the Pacific company that we are going to treat like the Harry Potter villain. Logical sense doesn't work anymore

[@darktenor4967]

Love the Stanley cup example, however, as you note Stanley didn't go on a big hate campaign against their original customers, IE men, or try to stop making all their old stock and completely change their entire ethos. Most people have no problem with things targeted at men or women, and especially not at things that appeal to both, most men have no problem with female characters or diverse characters. however, for myself I'm terminally sick! of all my entertainment being produced by people who hate me for how I was born! That's why these days I don't read/watch anything produced after 2017 without a strong recommendation, and that goes double if words like "diversity", or "empowerment", are used. Oh, and as a male survivor of female sexual abuse, the scene with Harley quin makes me, ----- mmmm, lets just say angry and leave it at that, since if I try to put what I really think, and what I think should be done with the writer of that scene, YT will definitely ban this comment!

[@edrosa3485]

Unique take. That infinity war scene was spoofed by The Boys.

[@TheBengalDragon]

This is very well put. It just goes to show that if you want more diversity, then don't FORCE IT or else it becomes INCOMPETENT diversity which is counter productive, as then, people will see those marginalized population being represented as incompetent and not as good as their previous itterations. From a psychological stand point, this is almost DESTRUCTIVE to many people's self esteem and self efficacy. I'm going to share this with a couple of people.

[@mk_wizard]

They ought to be ashamed.

[@Ergeniz]

If they had shame, they wouldn't be doing this in the first place.

[@knightwolfpro4494]

As yes Madam Web.... Fans "We want to see a Spider-Gwen Movie Sony: How about we give you Madam Web plus a bunch of knock offs. (I know most of them were around before Spider-Gwen) On a related not to my comment, if they had done a Spider-Gwen movie like 5 or 8 years ago, they could have used Dove Camereon to play her because she looked enough like her and was already voicing the character in that one animated series.