I got my hands on the all new Ford Focus ST for a week, but did I notice more flaws in the car after a longer experience with it, or, was it even better?!
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@michaelb96644 жыл бұрын
Your reviews of this car are by far the best reviews I’ve seen, including those from any professional journalist. These are the first real believable impressions of the car I could make any valuable judgements from. Thank you 👍
@michaelb96644 жыл бұрын
Car Focused you’re welcome!
@blackflagpirate34444 жыл бұрын
The new shape is growing on me but the old design will always be in my heart Gary 🏎💨💥💨💥
@iain88374 жыл бұрын
I have one...well a Focus! Company car, 120ps automatic diesel! But, I love it! Great fun to drive hard, no body roll, sharp front end, paddles, and just feels built for the twisty roads. Then on the autobahn I set cruise to 80mph and get 55 mpg. Love the head up display too. Can imagine the ST would be such a great drive, it’s not all about bhp and 0-60, that’s where Ford got it right. Had plenty performance cars in the past, but family life changed that! The new Focus is such a nice car.
@Baroldinho14 жыл бұрын
Had mine 4 weeks now, EPIC CAR Traded the mk3 ST for it and WOW, what a difference this is, I’d say the mk3 ST was just like a really fast focus, but this thing is something else !
@benw55614 жыл бұрын
I agree! I’ve just bought one and it’s leagues apart from my mk3. Anybody questioning the price needs to drive one to see where that extra cash has gone. I paid roughly 5k more than I paid for my mk3 and that’s with a pan roof, less that it would have been more like 4K more and it’s a lot more car for 4 grand extra in my opinion!
@aviewthroughthelens4 жыл бұрын
Had mine for just over a week, replaced my Mk8 Fiesta ST which was good already, the Focus is much better. Sport mode all the time for me!
@JohnDoe-tp8mc4 жыл бұрын
Just looking at doing this after having my MK8 for a year and being labelled a “fucking idiot for buying a two door when we have kids” by the mrs 😂 hoping I love the focus as much!
@simontaylor32114 жыл бұрын
Love the production values on this video mate. Great work as always 👍
@zane55984 жыл бұрын
Picking mine up tomorrow afternoon, can't wait! I agree with you on the looks though. I wish there was a still a three door variant, maybe it's just my age...
@zane55984 жыл бұрын
@diamus100 I've gone with the blue. I love the orange but I don't know if I'm brave enough to live with it for 2-3yrs... Hope you can order one soon!
@bailey1252 жыл бұрын
11:30 Although it's a great car stock, modifying it is so much fun. I mapped it using mountune's m330 map and it was the best decision I've ever made. It's still very balanced and usable and subtle when you want to drive it normally. It feels so much more responsive, it's more powerful and torquier. I also recently got the m365 map and exhaust. Now it has another good boost in power and performance. If anyone has a stock MK4 I highly recommend getting an m330 map.
@fantasyproduct10422 жыл бұрын
What fuel with the m330? Does it affect warranty?
@bailey1252 жыл бұрын
@@fantasyproduct1042 I just use standard 95 octane on both m330 and m365, no issues. Insurance isn't affected by much surprisingly. Warranty should not be affected as far as I'm aware.
@mick652912 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting the m330 remap on my ST but with fuel prices going through the roof lately in the UK I've held off. I'm getting 25mpg generally on a mix of roads up to about 33mpg on the motorway. What can I expect with the m330? I think the extra 50hp of fun and the better torque will be worth it though even if it makes it more thirstier 😂
@bailey1252 жыл бұрын
@@mick65291 I've been using the m365 for about 4 months now (and was using m330 for about 4 months before). In my opinion both m330 and m365 hardly use any more fuel than stock. I'm currently sitting at 29.5mpg average (towns, cities, country roads, etc...) and I don't exactly drive "slow" everywhere haha.
@mick652912 жыл бұрын
@@bailey125 thanks a lot for the reply. I think I'll bite the bullet and get out done
@H8XME4 жыл бұрын
Just traded in my st3 fiesta awaiting delivery focus st!!🥳
@v13wes4 жыл бұрын
Two great reviews of the Mk4... Just put my order in for one in black.. cant wait to get it out there
@teamkint3 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and yours Gary...picking up my ST early January and your video was a huge factor in my decision...looking forward to more content in ‘21👌🏼
@CarFocused3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🎅🏼🌲
@JMaverick19854 жыл бұрын
I love my Mk8 fiesta ST, couldn’t afford one of these! I just dread the day we have to have electric cars 😭
@painauchocolate23954 жыл бұрын
I too have a mk8 fiesta st and it seems to me that this focus “feels” about the same in terms of how eager it is. I’ve heard from a few owners already that the additional weight balances out any power advantage this mk4 focus st has over the fiesta. The fiesta sounds a bit better too I think.
@black.diablo.m24 жыл бұрын
Great review mate; some really good insights. Thank you for sharing it with us. Hard to gauge of course, how it compares to the Mk3 Focus RS. Got to tread carefully there I guess, eh. Anyway, I'll check one out for myself when they arrive in NZ next year sometime.
@MrIcarebecauseyoudo4 жыл бұрын
I think my mk3 ST is also very sorted. Think in general you don’t want to mess to much with a car that is already sophisticated. Less is more and and Ford just makes very exiting cars.
@Koli064 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the review and agreed with the conclusions. I've now had mine for ten days, and this my third Focus ST is by far the best. I also agree with the comment about the synthetic sound; it's the only thing I don't like. (Oh and mine doesn't have any rattles!)
@lukasmuigg18054 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nice Review. Just bought one and i love it :)
@leonmason774 жыл бұрын
FYI mate, I took mine in for the rattle in the door card and it turns out there is a fix kit available (Sound deadening foam basically). The cause of the rattle is the window regulator. The Ford technician told me that it was a bit naughty that they released this from factory without fitting the kit, but hoes guess was that they were hoping that some probably wouldn’t notice it and then it saves them having to repair every car.
@mischifischi Жыл бұрын
Can you give some more infos on this fix kit please? Thank you in advance mate 🙏🏼
@johnmurton70484 жыл бұрын
Another great,down to earth review!,top stuff☺👍👍👍
@micklawrence26304 жыл бұрын
Got the Milltek Resonared gif back on mine Gary and I think it just gives it that more deeper sound with better pops and bangs in sport mode .... think it sounds perfect now , understand what you say about modifications but I fancy a remap to around 300-320bhp .... and I think the chassis/running gear is more than capable of handling that .... great vid again .... top work 👍🏼
@tubalee3849 Жыл бұрын
I have orange fury st mk4 all stock and now considering resonated milltek. Tell me is it worth it? Is any louder than stock? More pops and bangs? Stock is almost too quiet for me and it bangs just when i flooring it very hard.
@jasoncannadine15534 жыл бұрын
Top review mate. Really enjoyed it. Wish I could afford one they look mega 👌🏼
@FalconXE3024 жыл бұрын
I think the 5000 RPM is where the Variable valve timing comes in hence you get that extra push in the back. As your son would tel you... VTEC...!
@tracktimevideos51644 жыл бұрын
If a car ever needed a facelift this is it.
@CharlieboyTop4 жыл бұрын
Track Time Videos just needs front splitter I think
@tracktimevideos51644 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieboyTop and some sharper looking headlights and a different bumper.
@FernandoRodriguez-uu6fj3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very interested in one at the moment. My only doubt is its bad turning circle. The garage where I park is a bit tight and this would be my daily..
@depeche72894 жыл бұрын
Great video...still thinking of trading in my RS MK3 for the ST. But also thinking of waiting for the next RS.
@Techpeak20124 жыл бұрын
What did you do? Seeing as there is no new RS coming now that does had cancelled it
@depeche72894 жыл бұрын
@@Techpeak2012 I still have my RS MK3. I have started to take it to a racetrack and that was too much fun to trade it in for the ST. But I guess the ST will be fun also on a racetrack and I like the ST so will see what I will do later.
@25952204 жыл бұрын
love the video, if i could afford one i'd defo buy one , keep up the good work on the videos. :)
@chrisorr39193 жыл бұрын
I have a mk3.5 ST, hopefully they are doing a planned facelift on this as i think i might buy a mk4.5
@nevilbounds57624 жыл бұрын
I'm running the diesel. Absolutely love it!
@neilwatt54974 жыл бұрын
Hello Nevil. I've just got the ford focus 1.5 ecoblue st line x and for a daily driver is spot on couldn't ask for more. Which diesel engine are you running pal? .. . . .
@grassyknoll96474 жыл бұрын
Iv got a MK3 diesel in white! Such a cool car. I want the new RS tho when it’s out
@nevilbounds57624 жыл бұрын
@@neilwatt5497 It's the 2.0 Eco Blu 187 PS engine in the new ST diesel. 52 mpg average and really pleased with the performance.
@neilwatt54974 жыл бұрын
@@nevilbounds5762 Hello Nevil. I so so nearly brought the same model and apart from the look of the car the engine and the twin pipes are etched. Well enjoy your motar! I'll keep enjoying my magnetic metallic grey paint estate but I must admit that it doesn't look like a estate. Safe driving 👍
@neilwatt54974 жыл бұрын
@@grassyknoll9647 Nioe car Grassy. What engine do you have they have them from 84bhp to 247bhp? Either way the inside of it is nice and even the lower powered focus grips like s##t to a blanket! Lol 😂
@doctorrobert604 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting such a nice driving review! Only problem I have with it....we do not get this in the States! Ford in their infinite "wisdom" has killed all cars except the Mustang. While the Mustang is popular it is not for me. I hope Ford wakes up and brings the Focus back at some point. Really miss the hatchback form and SUVs are not for me either. Hope you are enjoying the heck out of your RS.
@SamAustin4 жыл бұрын
Looks a great car overall. Biggest problem for me is the price......its waaaaay to expensive to justify ! Surprised you didn't mention that. Fast fords should be cheap IMHO. Its 90% of the reason why the Fiesta STs have been top of their class so ford should have done the same for the focus particularly with the car market the way it is at the moment. Closer to I30N money would make sense. Great video though as always though 👍🔥
@SamAustin4 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused Thanks for replying. It does look like great fun......certainly more positive feedback than the last Focus ST. If it was your money, knowing the depreciation on new cars, would you invest in this compared to others in the market?
@SamAustin4 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused I am with you......Good thinking :-) Thanks for responding and keep up the videos !
@stevemk4st6494 жыл бұрын
Just signed the paperwork on a Black ST with PP, HUD and wireless Charger for £20 a month cheaper ( PCP ) than my 17 plate ST3 was 2 years ago. No one pays list price DO THEY!!!!
@SamAustin4 жыл бұрын
@@stevemk4st649 I saw a few on Auto trader well below list. With car sales really poor atm it's good to see. A ST in orange for £24,950 seems more like it to me ! :-)
@steveallan33064 жыл бұрын
Great review as always from an enthusiasts perspective. Would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on the i30N.
@steveallan33064 жыл бұрын
I have a hunch you will like it! I had a Mk3 RS Edition for 9 months but unfortunately couldn't live with the veering steering any longer - a real shame as some cars don't seem to have any issues at all. Here's hoping Hyundai UK can sort something out for you! its nice to be back in something that's fun but isn't trying its best to throw me off the road ; )
@JoeMaranophotography4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha your car reviewer voice over voice is amazing Gary 😂
@carnutzomari3 жыл бұрын
Good video 👌🏽 how do you compare it too the mk3 focus ST ?
@mlukubone71344 жыл бұрын
I’d change the exhaust tips, the diffuser and possibly remove the fake noise
@gerrydays19094 жыл бұрын
Focus always was a great ford 😃😃
@istevieee4 жыл бұрын
Would you rather have that or a fiesta st though?
@bob6168able3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent content.!. If you have to choose between the ST 2020 Vs Type R Vs 2019 RS which one you go for?
@CarFocused3 жыл бұрын
As an all round daily driver? I’d probably say the RS!
@lastexile11874 жыл бұрын
Given the kerb weight, does it feel heavy/heavier than the previous gen focuses? How would you compare the adaptive suspension to the VAG DCC system?
@p8hre4 жыл бұрын
I love my Fiesta mk8 ST3 but I miss the practicality of the bigger focus... seriously considering when I change. Top review as always 👍
@jimmyjt164 жыл бұрын
Too expensive imo. An st for 35k (well spec'd) not thanks. What happened to the peoples super car? Ford are taking the piss with the price.
@xIcarus2274 жыл бұрын
I got an offer back from my dealer for 30.5k EUR in my country for full option minus sunroof. The list price for it was 37k. It's not the first time the list price on Fords is bloated, if you're interested in the car just ask your dealer for an offer. I reckon you can get one for 30k which is a bargain.
@benmulleady72664 жыл бұрын
Picking up an ST wagon on wednesday with a few options and it was 32k iirc.
@mournfulmaurice20094 жыл бұрын
One thing is scaring me off the Mk4: here in german forums there are huge quality and reliability issues: automatic box that let the car move forward when you put it in R, light clusters getting cracks in large numbers, rattling exhausts and stuff like that. Mk3 seems to have been better qualitywise, which is a shame as Mk4 looks and feels even better.
@mournfulmaurice20094 жыл бұрын
Definitely. And I guess Ford will somehow fix stuff....either by countermeasures or facelifts.
@alanpinnt4 жыл бұрын
Wish it came to the US.
@petersothern29094 жыл бұрын
it's a shame many European hot hatches don't go to the US
@STEVEBHPDEVON4 жыл бұрын
Gary I was rewatching your rs drag races with your mk3 and the moutune 1's etc, how about when the summer comes back to do mk2 rs runway drag races cheers steve 👍
@STEVEBHPDEVON4 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused that will be brilliant cheers steve👍😀
@STEVEBHPDEVON4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant car, brilliant vid keep it up gary cheers Steve 👍😀
@TTGT20004 жыл бұрын
So what do you prefer mk3 RS or mk4 ST? Overall but also brake it down on driving experience, performance, quality, usability etc. Cheers.
@SizzlingStu4 жыл бұрын
I've had the ST for 2 months now after handing back my RS after 2 1/2 years. I don't regret it at all with this being my main driver, if its a weekend car the RS is better. I do miss the AWD system in more slippery conditions but other things make up for it. The ST is a good 10-15% more economical during my commute and much more comfortable in standard mode but it comes alive in sport mode. The ST needs the performance pack and I like the HUD which I didn't actually care about but I got a great deal on one that had it. The wireless charging however is crap, the phone just slips on/off constantly and you get notifications every time.
@mrlv81264 жыл бұрын
We need the next RS MODEL NOW......
@blackflagpirate34444 жыл бұрын
Not doing anymore apparently 😢
@BigBeets4 жыл бұрын
Mr LV next year part hybrid got some serious power plus got more of a body kit on it like the mk2 lairy looking!!!!!
@karenlynneashby96884 жыл бұрын
Hey I've got the mk3 RS don't want them bringing out a new one just yet!
@stevekeane37513 жыл бұрын
Good videos mate. Would you have the fiesta st or focus st as a weekend car?
@CarFocused3 жыл бұрын
Fiesta as a weekend car as the Focus is the better daily.
@BenWarrington754 жыл бұрын
is the seating position low or are you still sitting on the car in typical ford focus fashion?
@billx42663 жыл бұрын
You should test the ST auto version
@peugeotfan86343 жыл бұрын
9:49 there is strange noise like from gearbox or it was just the turbo ?
@robertdonnelly20544 жыл бұрын
Why did it have an RS at the beginning when it is all about the ST?
@LeoTeddyLol4 жыл бұрын
Does that centre console still move about from cheap build quality?
@johnogden89234 жыл бұрын
I love this car but I think to get a good spec it is very pricey, in my opinion
@xIcarus2274 жыл бұрын
Ford's list price is not accurate as usual. I got an offer back from my dealer for 30.5k EUR for a full spec minus sunroof. The list price was 37k.
@subratakumardas65324 жыл бұрын
Ford should bring the Ford Focus ST hatchback to India 🇮🇳. 2020 Ford Focus ST hatchback luks damn sexy & dope 🔥💓💎
@mohammedbostan94674 жыл бұрын
it is exactly like a bigger fiesta st good car but needs better deals.
@Philbyyyy4 жыл бұрын
Why does Australia get different headlights?
@TekkenBones4 жыл бұрын
The worst part of this car is that the regular S-line looks identical....meaning your ST won't stand out.... So tired of manufacturers doing this, they KILL the exclusivity of their sport versions.....
@stevemk4st6494 жыл бұрын
Why should that really matter. I love the fact that other cars want to look like the one they REALLY wanted to buy. Just smile as you let them passed knowing who has the better equipped and more exciting car to drive.
@TekkenBones4 жыл бұрын
@@stevemk4st649 Disagree, sports model should be unique from the slower models. This is a big contributor to why all cars today look very similar.... everybody is trying to make sporty aggressive looking cars, even if they arent actually fast.
@stevemk4st6494 жыл бұрын
@@TekkenBones But how do you make a model unique unless you just add more pointless body kits. At the end of the day its a Focus, so any other Focus is going to look similar no matter what you do. Does it really matter if its not fast? If a person likes the look of a car but has no desire for a 2.3 litre engine with poor fuel economy why can't he / she have one that they like the look of, even if that is very similar to the SPORTS version. I for one really don't care, and I will be parking my ST next to the ST lines at work.
@Adish02874 жыл бұрын
I turned the video off once he said an RS is better than an ST.. just because you have a used RS does not make RS better than ST. ST is better all-rounder. You even experienced a lot of problems with your RS MK3. A bigger turbo and a 4WD system do not make a car better as a daily.
@Adish02874 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused actually I'd pick an ST any day. By God's blessings, I can go and get an RS now but as long as the ST will be around, RS is unjustifiable! Every time you see an RS, there's at least something wrong with it. It is definitely not reliable as an ST.
@davidwithey60363 жыл бұрын
ford few years ago said won't be making RS cars again
@mark-1rc502 Жыл бұрын
How’s the Clutch ? I’m desperately trying to find out what people think of the clutch I have a mk4 I think it’s overly stiff
@CarFocused Жыл бұрын
I’ve driven a few of these cars and never had clutch issues…
@Gkoulidis4 жыл бұрын
What about the harsh ride though? What about the cabin quality?
@Gkoulidis4 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused Fair enough. Let me check the old review then. Cheers mate!
@keithstapleton78054 жыл бұрын
So when you were driving it, how did it make you feel?
@keithstapleton78054 жыл бұрын
mainman2999 then he opened his garage.....
@alanpercival64284 жыл бұрын
Eco-bang engine??????
@alexanderbrown84554 жыл бұрын
Gary would you swap your new focus rs mk2 for this St??
@JPWarrior024 жыл бұрын
I'd stop following him if he did.🤣👻
@Birmingham_racing4 жыл бұрын
PS4 are brilliant my friend has wheel spin off the line first and second but to be fair his running 380bhp in a front wheel drive car lol
@richardhaley87443 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the ST or the Hyundai n30 facelift?
@CarFocused3 жыл бұрын
I think the ST would make the better allrounder. Focus ST that is!
@bob6168able3 жыл бұрын
You was talking about ruining the car if you tune it,, I was going to fit a HPtuners Ngauge which is connected to the car’s computer and unleash more power,, so why not. ? no mechanical amendment.
@mrlionrocks4 жыл бұрын
Its a nice car but is about 5k over priced in its market. Manual mk7 gti's are a big no no, the clutches are piss weak 😕
@philiphawkins46844 жыл бұрын
I still think the Honda Civic Type R is the one to go for over this.
@philiphawkins46844 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused you should definitely try and do a comparison video, and include the Hyundai i30N, also the Renualt Megane RS (although i'm yet to see one on the UK roads).
@Buck33664 жыл бұрын
Philip Hawkins But the Civic looks like it’s been in a fight with Halfords and lost.
@RoadandRacetv4 жыл бұрын
Oooh, we have some new voice-over!
@garymorris8014 жыл бұрын
It looks great my mate has one but a load of rattles after 2 weeks ford quality bad again
@istevieee4 жыл бұрын
I actually think the build quality is good. I had a '16 fiesta for 2 years, no rattles. Then got a 30k Mini JCW '18 and had rattles within 2 months from multiple places.
@Sierra7474 жыл бұрын
I’m sure its a very good car and with a remap to 330bhp it will be brilliant but it’s not a car a desire to own it just doesn’t tug on my heart stings to make me want to buy it. It just looks a bit to dull and offers nothing different in looks to the dreaded st lines. I like the colour though but hate the screen plonked on the dash😡😡
@Sierra7474 жыл бұрын
diamus100 as it’s got a lsd I’m sure it can cope with more power. Not all cars have a screen stuck on the top of the dash. Golfs have it in the dash and I’m sure their drivers can see it and use it fine. That was a thing manufacturers did years ago ford are very late to the game I thought they weren’t going to do it but sadly the stuck on afterthought screens have arrived.
@stevemk4st6494 жыл бұрын
@@Sierra747 Sorry......and you drive a...........?
@Sierra7474 жыл бұрын
Steve MK4 ST I drive a mk 2 Mazda 3 mps. Which is basically an older version of the mk4 st as it’s got the earlier version 2.3 engine and it’s got lots of Ford Focus suspension parts etc. I just don’t see it’s enough of an improvement to spend an extra £20000 over the value of my car. Not that I see what difference what car I drive is on my opinion of a focus st!!After all it’s non mk4 st drivers ford what to buy the car. I’m sure it’s a great car but not one I long to own.
@stevemk4st6494 жыл бұрын
So the new ST has had no new development since the MK3 and they have just decided to put the MK2 Mazda parts onto a new body design. I currently have the MK3.5 ST and have been able to get another brand new car only 2 years into my current PCP for £20 per month less. I wont have paid for a service for 4 years, tyres or an MOT, or any other fault as the warranty is always there. I know everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I can't remember the last time I commented on a video for a car that (1) - I have no interest in (2) - Would never buy (3) - Have never driven. I for one have smiled almost every time I've given the ST a blast, and I know its not a supercar but when the haters pass comment, what are you comparing the car to when you pass judgement of it's abilities?
@Sierra7474 жыл бұрын
Steve MK4 ST well there’s not much point having a comments section if only mk4 drivers can have an opinion and make a comment!! My main gripe with the mk4 is its looks which I don’t need to drive one to make.
@Kskdoru4 жыл бұрын
If you say that it's only a little bit better than a GTI, then it's not that good...I mean look at the competition...Type R, I 30 N, Megane Trophy, nu much more serious than GTI's
@DavidinEssexUK4 жыл бұрын
And is it faster than the mk3 RS like ford said it was.
@jamieb85374 жыл бұрын
No, off the line the RS is much faster however rolling the difference is much smaller.
@ENGBriseB3 ай бұрын
Good are 4 year old one's just as good now.
@CarFocused3 ай бұрын
Yea they are a good purchase!
@fasthracing4 жыл бұрын
Way overpriced when you consider what RS's were sold for.
@kristianspencer19784 жыл бұрын
But it’s too expensive. Mk2 rs and £10000 for modifications.? Or if I had the money for An st I would buy a vxr8 Bathurst s. 6.2 v8 supercharged and 560 bhp. A beautiful car. And the focus isn’t.
@cmdrjinxo78464 жыл бұрын
You can get a Golf R for cheaper
@cmdrjinxo78464 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused not fully specced but 31k for a brand new one, an R doesn't have many options anyway unless you want to change the alloys, pan roof or DCC. Over 30k though for an ST, crazy, better buying a 1 or 2 year old RS.
@amirweissbrot4 жыл бұрын
AS GOOD AS A GTI?!@#?? GTIs are such a boring cars... the focus sT is a Hooligan, and fun, and joy! not dall gray... not involving... not communicationg.... as a golf GTI/R leonCupra audi S/RS...
@amirweissbrot4 жыл бұрын
@@CarFocused understood.. but when talking about hot hatches... usualy when describing how good they are, we really don't care if they can handle big things in their booth... the ST is mega to drive, and super-fun on back roads, the absolute opposite to the golf gti, the gti, will be like meh... there.