No wonder everyone loves those motors! Thats insane gains for a simple off the shelf flash man!
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
It's by far the vehicle I recommend the most when folks are looking to purchase a new car. Amazing power with easy bolt ons, super practical every day car, and inconspicuous as well.
@NyksWyldMynd4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I love seeing real world results compared to the claims.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@033Fritz2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing claims & having even better results! Lol
@Shelly.McFearson5 ай бұрын
STOCK: 255 WHP, 259 WTQ STAGE 1 LOW TQ: 302 WHP, 305 WTQ STAGE 1 HIGH TQ: 299 WHP, 326 WTQ Great video! Your welcome lads haha
@bblover4ever19844 жыл бұрын
Dave I love this. This is the type of stuff we wanna see. Keep up the awsome work and vids. 100 percent support brotha.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Not sure who this is, but greatly appreciated. Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the support.
@bblover4ever19844 жыл бұрын
Its Nick Jackson Dave.
@spencerhoff73733 жыл бұрын
Guess that would explain why 21 year old mk1 TT 1.8T blasts around the way it does and saddens many other car owners around town... and thats not even with the k04 upgrade. Love to see it
@casweeden3 жыл бұрын
I wish everyone could make their dyno videos exactly like this one.
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that.
@Bran_robbie4 жыл бұрын
Basically a stage 2 Mk7 is about as fast as a stage 1 Mk7 Golf R . Simple guys. Great Video btw 🔥
@toooes4 жыл бұрын
(AWD is really the distinction of R v. GTI)
@trip14 жыл бұрын
hell yeah brothers!! Nice editing Clayton
@ctmfc12874 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@All4forlife4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, love my Stage 2 and the few bolt ons you did. I gotta get over to get that dog bone insert you sold me on.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Stage 2... yeah another different animal. :) Thanks for the comments, we're trying. Oh and no problem!
@chrisclow68854 жыл бұрын
Awesome video fellas! Nice to see how the claims compare 👍
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@TheSurfRyder4 жыл бұрын
Great job with the video! Great to see the actual #s you get what ya got if all is healthy. Love to see TDI results for Malone
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, unfortunately I can only do HP on diesels at this time. May upgrade at some point if more diesels want to put them on the rollers but at this point the cost outweighs the benefits of the odd person who'd want to dyno them.
@road_2_pow_r3 жыл бұрын
the last 2 minutes were the best...... the front wheels drives!!! thanks for a great video
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
👍
@monya916744 жыл бұрын
According to VW specs the MK7 Golf R has 292hp. I spoke to APR and was told stage 1 would bump me up by 60-80hp on the low torque version. Now I don't know what to believe? I love my R but without a real Dyno you can't tell.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
This is wheel HP not Crank, and this is on 91oct. Not 93 which is more common. If you watch the video and the results you will see we've actually gained more HP then what APR claims. ;)
@se16634 жыл бұрын
Nice to see back to back. Bloopers were fkn hilarious. 😂
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. 🙂
@sdfilmfolks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude. Well done video. Exactly what I needed to know.
@brdpit Жыл бұрын
I love how modest APR is with their numbers. Great company that's local to me here in Alabama.
@Lovely_planet2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the channel so much
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ysmababe69264 жыл бұрын
love the vids, keep up the good work :)
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
@williammedina85172 жыл бұрын
Man I loved the end bloops, been watching y’all for a while now, I’m a golf owner my self and been wanting a dyno tune so bad. But I have some issues rn with spark, everything was good and I’m rebuilding it from a fire, keep it up bro! Btw where you based out of?
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad to entertain. lol East Coast Canada.
@johnmoser26894 жыл бұрын
I want to see some content on that caddy I understand it's got a Vr6 tucked in there.... nice
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
You’re in luck. We have 3 videos on our channel on it!
@jaimejm.49484 жыл бұрын
Nice video men! Great and cleans numbers before and after. Stage 1 looks great...what can we expect about stage 2 with bolts on!? 🤤🤯 Greetings from Mexico ✌🏽
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, if you see the recent video of the IS38 GTI... we see basically the same numbers out of the stage 2 R as that's basically that same setup.
@jedediahsmart5694 жыл бұрын
61 wheel for a flash is insane! Maybe I should flash the wife's S3, lol.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, these cars should not be running around stock with all that can be had out of a tune. Even on 100% daily drivers.
@n0ly774 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports These Golf R's can safely stay in stage 1 all day ! I myself have a 17 R DSG. I can't wait for an EQT, IE or APR stage 1 !
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
@@n0ly77 great cars for sure.
@sonofnothing5 ай бұрын
With awd, won't whp be lower? All respective of the percentage of jump between maps, but still lower
@COMotorsports5 ай бұрын
Nope not really. The AWD is only active when there is slip in the front. So on a proper linked AWD dyno there is no power going to the rear anyways.
@sonofnothing5 ай бұрын
@@COMotorsports boom! Thanks. It has haldex right? That's what I have in my Volvo.. Should have known
@ryanking28624 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the results would align better to APRs results if you were able to perform the same tests on an All wheel dyno? 🤔
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Not sure I follow. We seen comparable gains to what APR claims, infact a bit more.
@ryanking28624 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports I forgot to mention. This is great stuff man. Love these tests. Just curious if taking the rear wheels out of the equation makes a difference in drivetrain loss. Possible a reason why you numbers seem higher than APRs??? I have no experience tuning with a dyno. Just love learning how this stuff works...
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
On a haldex vehicle little to none I'd say based on how it works.
@steve_the_designer3 жыл бұрын
Great comparo. I just tuned my TTS with Unitronic Stage 1+ (TCU too). Would love to see this comparo for Unitronic.
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
We don't offer that software here so the only comparison videos we have are folks when switching.
@martymontana78024 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that!!!
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked.
@n0578284 жыл бұрын
I have a club sport 2016 GTI with APR 1 Mad!!!!
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, enjoy it.
@fredygump55783 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know how much power I am losing from not upgrading my intercooler. Today was unseasonably warm, and I was surprised by how sluggish my car felt compared to how it performs in cooler weather (50F vs 80F). I have APR stage 2 on my 2016 GTI....stock except for downpipe and southbend clutch
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Power to be had with an intercooler upgrade. More importantly though less heat soak, which means run after run you won't notice it like you did today. That's More important to me as it keeps it consistent.
@maxapollo14 жыл бұрын
Is that your shop Dyno
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir.
@acefighterpilot4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts regarding crank walk on the 7R with an aftermarket clutch? The stock clutch in my car cannot hold stage 1 low torque.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
I've seen it happen, but also seen plenty without issues.
@acefighterpilot4 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports Any common factors? I noticed the thrust washer revision changed in 2018. I have a '16.
@garym.28793 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a TIGUAN ALL WHEEL DRIVE
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Like converting a FWD Tiguan to AWD? No, those vehicles are a dime a dozen around here in AWD so it wouldn't make much sense.
@eastwell5 ай бұрын
Nice
@hawaiianpunch20v4 жыл бұрын
These numbers be exactly the same with the haldex plugged in ?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
With the Haldex unplugged it's still turning the front axles, front angle drive, and driveshaft. This is the exact same way it is when driving on the street 90% of the time. The only time the rear axles are powered is when there is slip on the front tires. So lets say you did a pull on the highway in 3-4th gear with Haldex plugged in... and did a pull in 3-4th gear with it unplugged... the car is going to accelerate the exact same because the AWD is not going to engage as there would be lots of traction. So the answer is yes. We unplug it for safety so there's no chance of it engaging the rears.
@hawaiianpunch20v4 жыл бұрын
Gotcha I figured it was some fake awd trickery 😂
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
@@hawaiianpunch20v Nothing fake about it. These are primarily FWD vehicles until the front wheels slip.
@hawaiianpunch20v4 жыл бұрын
CO Motorsports yeah I was kidding the guy at DAP made a video of hadlex awd he kept calling it a fake awd until the end when he said it was an alright system lol
@hawaiianpunch20v4 жыл бұрын
I like the Golf R, I’m in the market for a newer car to daily and I’m kind of leaning towards one of these or maybe just a Silverado 😂
@RK-ql8ue3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a clutch recommendation for MK7.5R? Seems like many of the options have lots of bad reviews. I was leaning towards an ACT clutch, I am still stock but would likely go with APR’s high torque 91 tune after the clutch is broken in.
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
You only hear the bad of clutch stories, keep that in mind. We've used CM and SB the most, however we do use DKM a bit as well.
@learnthinkamal3 жыл бұрын
Is a dsg tune required for low torque 91 file or can the stock DSG handle the additional torque and adjust to the extra power?
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Stage 1 for most providers does not require a DSG tune.
@sky18024 жыл бұрын
this 7R stage 1 power figure is almost similar to stage 2 hpfp on the 6R. 😥
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
The 7R is a beast of a car.
@robertweaver92683 жыл бұрын
Love the channel
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment. 👍
@HashBrown99Gaming2 жыл бұрын
How reliable would you say the high torque stage 1 tune is on a stock build with the Apr intake??
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Just As reliable as the car is.
@TheEliooile3 жыл бұрын
Have you compared 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for those same profiles?
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
No, but typically APRs numbers are on point and they have a lot of that data on their website. Which most don't.
@nevercedes20704 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t having it FWD on the Dyno vs AWD change the numbers ?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Nope, if it does its so minimal. We've dynoed plenty of MK7Rs as well as MK7 GTIs with IS38 Golf R turbos and the numbers are near identical between the two.
@LC-vp6dz3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can 6 speed manual take low torgue map?
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
The transmission isn't the problem, it's the clutch. Transmission is fine for high torque+.
@dibtojyoti104 жыл бұрын
isnt the golf r rated to 290 hp? why is it 259 stock? is it due to the 91 octane?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Factory measures are at the crank, these are wheel horsepower numbers. General estimate is about 15% drive-train loss when comparing wheel hp to crank hp.
@oviss59463 жыл бұрын
Can you flash back to stock from stage 1 ? W/O The dealer knowing
@oviss59463 жыл бұрын
@The Insufferable Tool Thank you
@eloygabriel094 жыл бұрын
Can you do this same video but with stage 2?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
We are not paid for these video's and they're not sponsored. So we do video's as opportunities come up. If that opportunity comes up, or if you're interested in supporting the video we'd gladly make it happen.
@philliprollman7421 Жыл бұрын
I just got a mk8 GTI and it came out of factory with 241 hp and 270 torque im considering doing a stage 1 tune where do you think my numbers will be thanks.
@COMotorsports Жыл бұрын
Any of the major providers like APR, have the data on their website.
@nicholasmanns4 жыл бұрын
Can the stock clutch handle stage 1 low torque?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
It can...but for how long, not quite sure. A lot of it depends on driving habits really.
@TheFlyingPLiner4 жыл бұрын
I've been on stage 1 high torque for two years 30k+ stock clutch with no issues. I drive the car like it's a rented mule too (no dragstrip passes though) and it doesn't slip at all.
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingPLiner Some luck out for sure, but I suspect your day is coming. :)
@TheFlyingPLiner4 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports oof, don't say that 😛
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingPLiner truth hurts. lol
@zo6jonbrooks4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 A4 quattro what hp/tq gain would I be looking at and would it be worth it in the long run?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth it, without question.
@precisiondetails30034 жыл бұрын
Check out their website... goapr.com The numbers should be very similar for a stage 1 tune. 256 hp and 301 lb ft torque on 91 octane
@blizteredthumbs79113 жыл бұрын
so, its a 2.0t ea888 ... same engine as my audi quattro. your first pull was 250 stock, 305 ish stage 1.. so apparently my hp is 211ps ...why is that? over all mass of vehicle? what's apr claim on 2.0 tfsi cdnc audi quattro b8.5 @27k miles?
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Depends what year Audi you have. This is the gen 3 engine, which is technically EA888.3 not EA888.
@blizteredthumbs79113 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports 2013 buddy
@blizteredthumbs79113 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports b8.5
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
@@blizteredthumbs7911 not the same as this. Your engine would essentially be the same as the MK6 GTI.
@blizteredthumbs79113 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports where would you find the stamp that states ea888 1,2,3? I know where chassis, colour etc is all located, approval number etc, but where would it state the engine code other than cdnc Like what you state. I suspect I'm ea888 2 ? As it's the facelift from the b8
@sirfurnish38283 жыл бұрын
How come your mkr only 250hbp in the UK my golf r made 310bhp standard 🤔
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
WHP
@jaken528 Жыл бұрын
That's what's up
@a914freak Жыл бұрын
OK VW states that the 2016 Golf R has a factory HP rating of 292 What's the deal? Your pull only put out 257.
@COMotorsports Жыл бұрын
You need to read what the difference is between wheel HP and crank HP. There is a difference.
@a914freak Жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports Ok so vw is stating 292 crank HP -10% for FWD is a 30HP loss
@COMotorsports Жыл бұрын
@@a914freak do more homework
@Nazk4104 жыл бұрын
Whats 61 whp in bhp?
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
The general rule of thumb is add 15% so in this case... it would be right around 70bhp.
@Nazk4104 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports ohhh ok thanks. Also why are the dyno numbers so low? Is that because its a 2 wheel dyno? Because a golf r with a 70bhp increase should be around 370bhp not 302... Thats the bhp from factory lol
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
@@Nazk410 not sure why you think they're low. They're right where they should be. VW says between 265-310 crank hp depending on trim/package. We got 255whp adding an average of 15% to that brings us to 293hp. Which puts it right in line. The key to this though is a dyno is a measuring tool to measure gains....and gains we got. :)
@Nazk4104 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports ohh sorry my bad i thought it was 255 bhp not whp i misheard you🤐. Anyway great video keep up the good work😊
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
@@Nazk410 thanks. Appreciate the feedback. 👍
@yotawilly27453 жыл бұрын
2 funny guys glad you still enjoy it all a Hilarious
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. 👍
@kyulee27582 жыл бұрын
why would anybody go with low tq file? do you need more mods if you wa to go with high tq tune?
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Clutch primarily
@kyulee27582 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports i see. so even on DSG? High tq file need dsg tune as well?
@ls6stroker85020 сағат бұрын
i bought the APR Ultralink thinking that they have tunes for my golf R they only have stage 1 but advertise that they have many tunes for my car
@COMotorsports19 сағат бұрын
@@ls6stroker850 they do, stage one with multiple octane files, they also offer stage 3 files for their turbo setups, and if you're outside the US they offer stage 2 files as well.
@ramirogarza44162 жыл бұрын
i want a CO Motorsports shirt that just says "the front wheel drives"
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
lol One of one.
@ark-mark18 ай бұрын
I take less than 4 to 60 mph and if I use only gear 2 i can get from 0-75 in same time. Rolling start from 10 to 75 it´s 3 seconds or less. Quite a numbers for a 10 years old car with 90 thousand mails driven having pedal to the medal when not stuck in traffick.
@magic51382 жыл бұрын
good work but bruh those gloves oil gloves on the steering wheel 😕
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
If theyre not leaving dirt on my bright silver keyboard on my laptop then they're clearly not dirty enough to put dirt on a leather wheel.
@bblover4ever19844 жыл бұрын
Omg I roared at the credits. Baaahahahah.
@entity12632 жыл бұрын
Wonder what gains 93 would be? Nice vid
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
slightly higher. I believe these are SAE correct runs also which do measure lower than most who use STD correction.
@entity12632 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports Very cool! I was looking into IE for my stage 1, however I really don't think you could go wrong with them or APR.
@CharlotteK20082 жыл бұрын
So your still making less than a standard European spec car due to 91 fuel…. Amazing how much difference fuel makes. Great video 👏🏻
@gregoryneal28524 жыл бұрын
The dirty gloves. Great video though.
@MRSTYFFakaLloydDStiff1 Жыл бұрын
Noice
@ark-mark18 ай бұрын
They are better. My Polo R WRC with apr stage 1 promises 315+ hp and 450 Nm and stage 1+ aka same but with apr fuel pumps would give 370+ hp. Ì won some better Tesla S model, not plaid but still on a rolling 20Kmh to 190Kmh . Tesla having about 180 at the end of the straight. It was about 300 meters or less. It propably has 350+ and with fuel pumps would go over 400. Their estimates are either bhp or seriously down estimated.
@ark-mark18 ай бұрын
We have shell 99+ octane on pump so that might bring some difference. WTF I have more im my Polo R. Don't ruin that engine with 91 MAN! Get e85 program or better gas.
@COMotorsports8 ай бұрын
Sort of impossible to do when it's not available. 😉
@ark-mark18 ай бұрын
@@COMotorsports How? What an earth? You should order some additive octane raiser or perhaps methanol water injection? And on top of racing fuel, atleast in europe you can order a barrel of pump fuel from shell. Our 99+ even has a drop of nitromethane on it on top of some other additives that are inspired or used by the fuel they use in formula 1 Ferrari.
@ark-mark18 ай бұрын
@@COMotorsports But again another proof of how much VAG engines can handle variation in fuel. Is it state dependant or whole country or just your town. hmm... Where the drifting guys get their fuel... Rob Dahm orders his e85 by the barrels.
@IKenexPSN3 жыл бұрын
91 octane? damm thats terrible. the budget fuel near my house in 97 and the good stuff is 99.
@HenkkaWRC3 жыл бұрын
RON vs. AKI. In America they measure octane differently using AKI. Rest of the world use RON. 91 AKI = 95 RON and 93 AKI = 98 RON.
@HenkkaWRC3 жыл бұрын
So yeah, it's sad that they don't have 98 octane (ron) available, but it's not terrible since they atleast have access to the "normal" 95 octane (ron) fuel. That's what most cars require at least.
@raptorviewsuav44809 ай бұрын
Can't help but cringe at the dirty gloves whilst touching the interior....other than that, useful vid
@COMotorsports9 ай бұрын
You can relax, no interiors were harmed in making of this video.
@halfhappy1172 жыл бұрын
dirty gloves in a nice car... wow
@COMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
It's ruined for sure now.
@apache45414 жыл бұрын
That cool not prefect horsepower because you live Canada 487 m (1,598 ft) high sea level , turbocharger compresses the air flowing into the engine. ... The air is thinner at high altitudes than at low altitudes; therefore the air running into the engine is also less dense than usual, and less effective at burning fuel. This means less horsepower. if you live in south America. if I live in Austin it would be 489 feet elevation of any city is the term given to denote how high the location is in relation to sea level. Austin, Texas, has an elevation of 489 feet (149 m), which is typical of most major cities more horsepower hungry thick air.! cool facts!
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but we leave at sea level. I can pretty much throw a rock into the ocean from the shop. :)
@apache45414 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports hehe why not !
@ivdubgti3 жыл бұрын
Clown Ass APR popping motors since 2012.
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
You realize that APR has more cars tuned in this world then any other company...by A LOT. They're the leader in the industry for a reason, and that's due to providing great product. There's very few products on the market that compare to their quality and fit and finish. We know this due to having most product in VW/Audi world in our hands to actually see the difference. Say what you will but as someone who's used it all, not just 1 or 2 products I speak with experience.
@ivdubgti3 жыл бұрын
@@COMotorsports Leader in the Industry? LOL Sorry But Cobb AP and e tuners have taken over.
@COMotorsports3 жыл бұрын
@@ivdubgti if you think COBB is on more VW/Audi's then APR you're living in the dark sorry. APR has been in this market for 20+ years, also APR can be purchased at the dealer with warranty. Although that may not mean much to you and I, that's a lot of customers before the car even left the lot. I've been doing this a long time, whether you like it or not, it's facts.
@Japplesnap2 жыл бұрын
@@ivdubgti lol....so wrong. APR has been and still is the leader in tuned VAG cars.
@auditt-s-line94334 жыл бұрын
It’s stock. Completely stock. But it has this this this this and this. But it’s totally stock. lol
@COMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
This video is about HP gains....the engine is stock. There are no power adders on this aside from the tune.
@auditt-s-line94334 жыл бұрын
CO Motorsports I know. Just funny how he stated it’s completely stock but then stated it had mods. Then it’s NOT stock.
@uchiha_d1334 Жыл бұрын
How reliable are these cars really when making this much Hp?