5 Weird iPad Pro (M4) Decisions

2 week of overthinking this iPad Pro
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[@MikeLikesChannel]

I appreciate Apple letting me hang onto my 2nd gen 2020 iPad Pro without feeling like I’m missing major features.

[@naveenbandarage]

FACTS

[@djerhyjnbaptiste4030]

Got the M2 and will probably keep it for the next 5 years

[@charlesquirtoz724]

@PastelLavenderYTstop begging for subs

[@efrainSRT]

Havent had an ipad since 2017. But if i had the m1 or m2 model i wouldnt upgrade unless u really appreciate OLED

[@ungnomeuser9624]

​@PastelLavenderYTStop the cap they didn't say that your parents prolly ain't even alive. Stop begging for subscribers and earn em by making good content.

[@Witch.Dr.-HQ]

The ultimate KZbin and Netflix powerhouse.

[@shivanshukumar5942]

Warzone Mobile ?

[@byeolboi]

​@@shivanshukumar5942who the hell buys a powerhouse of a tablet just to play mobile games😂

[@shivanshukumar5942]

​​​​​@@byeolboiGamers (& Streamers)

[@byeolboi]

@@shivanshukumar5942 "gamers"😂😂

[@YouTubetail]

iPad Pro best world graphics 8k future lol 🤣

[@openmade]

You're a savior. I was so obsessed with this thing inside my head, thinking I could even replace my regular Macbook M1 Pro with it. I feel relieved.

[@SunnyWinterz]

I replaced a MacBook with an iPad Pro. 3 months later, after frustration after frustration every single day, I switched back. Stay with a MacBook. If they release a MacBook with an iPad-like touch screen and adaptable touch OS interface, then that would be perfect. But until then, stay with a MacBook for serious work.

[@hazori9551]

@@SunnyWinterz The iFold will probably be that, the hybrid fold device both macbook, ipad and dual screen in one, probably gonna cost more than the vision pro though.

[@razerx100]

@@hazori9551 The problem isn't the device. It is with the OS. If you had macOS on an iPad, most people wouldn't need to get a MacBook. And that's why, the iFold won't have the macOS either, otherwise the Macs won't sell, and Apple aren't stupid.

[@ortegaangelo]

I use an iPad for Notes, YT and for Aviation - For office use, even managing Emails sucks in comparision with a Macbook (imo) 😬

[@GFourGadget]

At the end of the day, it's a tablet with mobile software. Putting in that much power doesn't really make sense other than a demonstration of what the company can produce 🙊

[@GaryGaryGaga]

Agreed

[@MoanaMotunui-vz7rp]

Yea the iPad air is the sweet spot

[@gastontwo]

Yes that's really true, unless you're an artist or creator

[@JayBlackmores]

Only correct for non-Professional users.

[@ironwolf4555]

How will they ever sell their mac books if the ipads can do the same thing? Brilliant.

[@edwinschaap5532]

1:28 That’s not true. The Polishing Cloth is Apples thinnest product.

[@Dante-fk4yi]

Deep thoughts

[@ColdPotato]

Next year they'll improve on the polishing cloth by making it out of graphene and charging 200 bucks for it.

[@kathini]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@riccardopezzani]

Not sure, it may be close between the cloth and the Apple card 😂

[@niklasgermann]

It’s about the thinnest „device“ (with a screen), as he said in his podcast

[@hgoeldner]

I'd rather a bigger battery than making the iPad thinner.

[@pokiblue5870]

ikr. The ipad itself is already thin so why make it more thin ? Like you said i prefer thicker and bigger battery if its a tablet.

[@fredrickbambino]

More battery is always better

[@GyroCannon]

I legit laughed when Marques revealed the new thinness Apple and Samsung are having a dick measuring contest except in the opposite direction lmao

[@arunashamal]

lol...Thin devices are always better than ugly design with lot of battery life!

[@Designsecrets]

everyone would except for tim

[@ThiHaGadgets]

@marques your audio is one of the best probably the best one. My job-issued Thinkpad laptop has okay speakers but your voice is super clear and pretty loud.

[@Meggyp0p]

My current iPad Pro is from 2018 and is still working perfectly. We just got “new” iPads at the school I work at and they’re literally the old ipad airs from 2015! I’m not gonna upgrade anytime soon, but I am considering upgrading my case to something more laptop-like. I use my personal iPad more than any other device.

[@berrystraw539]

Loved the conspiracy bit. The music was the cherry on top

[@DanielMustang47]

"and... that was on purpose" lmfaooooo

[@martijnvanderwal3976]

I thought it was funny, but his suggestions made no sense. Putting the pencil on the left or right side would block the speakers. Moving the pencil to the side would look dumb and off center. And he suggested moving the camera to the side, even though he complained in the past that the camera should be centered? I think Apple. Made the right decision with still having it on the top center. It just sucks that they didn’t do this earlier.

[@Andy-rc9db]

@@martijnvanderwal3976I do get the frustration but it’s been - what - 6 years since we’ve had a proper redesign? That’s a decent run when compared with any other tech company/product. And putting the pencil on the side is a stupid suggestion - every time you drop it in the bag, the pencil flips off? And imagine the memes had they put it off centre… They’ve made the right decision and it’s tough for those who really, really, really need that pencil, but have a recentish iPad Pro. But that happens with tech products. The good news is, with Apple, we can be confident that support for legacy products will outstrip the support offered by most competitors.

[@spookydooms]

@@martijnvanderwal3976I thought he was saying move the pencil charging components to the side, not the camera

[@themaster-5209]

@@spookydooms no he did say that they could've moved the pencil to the right and the camera to the left

[@benjaminkindle1841]

I'm glad the review wasn't too negative, so Apple won't go out of business

[@OcRefrigeration]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelbalabala1076]

Thats never gonna happen.. even if apple released a complete garbage and all the reviewers completely lambasted it, the fanboys are still gonna line up at their store..

[@hurley999jb]

😂

[@venotti86]

@@michaelbalabala1076it’s a joke

[@UstAM21]

😂😂😂

[@anneward7900]

This was incredible and so thorough. Thank you! I loved the magnetic paper..so cool.

[@tiny6406]

That magnetic field viewing paper is sooo cool!! Your reviews are always unique in some way! Thanks for showing😁

[@JEDIFROMHOTH]

This video shows why MKBHD is the king. Every M4 iPad review basically spewed out the same nonsense that Apple gave in the presentation,not this guy. He took his time and came up with a completely different and unique way to give his audience his opinion.

[@manart6506]

I get that but I think the other reviews are so similar because they said what it is when reviewing the same device (those more different are from artists)… here first the point seems to be different from other tech KZbinrs, which makes sense for the KZbinr I guess. Still a good review.

[@King_SPL]

keep glazing

[@nabillarif]

not really...who are u watching??

[@Andreasytac]

Nothing here was remotely new, unlike videos that were the first to break it down, first to look at nanotexture. All this video does it count to 5 and repeat the same things that were known right off the bat

[@mopnem]

⁠@@Andreasytac Not new, but it wasn't your typical KZbin glazing / basically free marketing. He also did have some unique perspectives. I think the hate is towards the KZbin dribble, if you see one vid it’s usually enough to ruin your taste for it.

[@keithstrickland6311]

Love how humble you are and how you constantly make sure people don't run to buy what they don't need.

[@RealKyleSterling]

thats not what humble is

[@JamieKitson]

Hence why he said "and"? Like A and B, not A and A. That would be a tautology.

[@HansKeesom]

Thank you for that comment, it is exactly how I feel. Yes humble is correct, he is not making the show too much bout himself and still enough to make him like a personal friend.

[@keithstrickland6311]

@@RealKyleSterling I hope you’re having a blessed and extremely amazing day. At first I was going to ask why you felt the need to be negative, when I clearly was listing two positive attributes that I appreciate. Then it clicked to me, you may be having a bad day or I could have simply read what you said from the wrong perspective. Either way, I’d rather bring more positivity into your day than add to or introduce the opposite. So with that being said, thank you for stopping to compliment, and I hope you enjoy his videos as much as I do.

[@NocommentsNocom]

​@@keithstrickland6311can't believe you take internet people too serious

[@zuqini]

The shadow does serve a functional purpose and isn't totally unnecessary. It's quite an important visual feedback for how the pen is going to stroke, specifically for pen tips with different widths/lengths.

[@eftehassan9969]

You didn't understand which shadow he talked about. It's not the stroke shadow. There's a bigger shadow(virtual) of the whole pencil on the tablet

[@zuqini]

@@eftehassan9969 Oh wow, totally missed it. Yeah that’s kinda ridiculous.

[@vitoc8454]

3:20 -Forget the iPad, I want that paper

[@ergojosh]

As a digital artist, I SOOO appreciate the sudden dramatic music when calling Apple out on their decision to gatekeep the pencil. The tech is cool, the updates are cool! But the business moves....not cool. Apple should stick to what they did with the iphone. Make it more and more accessible so that everyone is using it. I guess maybe they decided they are already at that point which I could argue for and against myself. Regardless, I decided to save the cash for something else and keep my M2.

[@_Isaiah]

I've been waiting to hear your take! If someone did not have either, would you recommend the M2 or M4?

[@MadMeeper]

I'm personally still rocking my pre-M chip ipad for art as well - the upgrades are not really anything to write home about. Yeah they're fancy, Im sure Procreate and other big art app companies will jump on those features for the new pencil, but ultimately they're just fancy little perks and not enough imo to justify getting an upgrade when you already have a totally serviceable device. Maybe if I was looking to upgrade anyway I'd get the fancy things, but it's just..... not really that important, yaknow. It's a lot of hype for something that really isnt helping artists anymore than previous generations already were.

[@andrew_anzhu]

Obviously, Apple now thinks the Ipad pro is only for a few rich "pro" people, not for everyone. For most of people, regular Ipad is more than enough, even no need for Ipad air.

[@cakeezz]

Devils advocate here, Could it be that they had to adjust the magnets in the pencil to fit the new components?

[@naramoro]

Espcially hypocritcial regarding all the e-wast this will cause (once again!). Fortunately they omitted the plastic sticker this time around this should compensate

[@ChippyGaming]

4:32 here in the UK we didn’t get a plug with this iPad

[@jackpovah1744]

Do we know why this is?

[@GooMain]

Chippy is like an anomaly, you're literally in the places where you'd least expect. Also side note; HELLO, can't wait for Terrarias final final final final update =P

[@edmn]

@@jackpovah1744 Same as Europe. Some kind of EU regulation regarding waste. They lumbered the UK in with the EU.

[@dionysus6081]

Bet terraria runs at a blistering 60 fps on that ipad

[@kingcoherent]

Apple doesn’t consider the iPad to be a computer, so it can skimp on the plug.

[@user-lj8nm3pw1n]

MKB Awesome Video as always. Thanks for sharing Enjoyed. 💯✌️

[@johnbucki6341]

Thank you for your review. I purchased the iPad Pro M4 so far I’m happy with it.

[@QuestMinecraft]

A Dex mode for IPad which turns it into a simulated MacBook would be a game changer

[@mtolm]

Absolutely

[@Deucebigaloooo]

1000%

[@vedchaudhary1180]

Macbooks are macbooks, ipad cant replace it, gaming and creative apps can save ipads

[@Toliman.]

The issue is contamination. They can’t sell a MacBook that is identical to the iPad Pro. Not at the same kind of price. Technically, it would be easy to put MacOS on an iPad Pro. Relatively. But it would be significantly slower and prone to switching problems of having iOS apps emulated and running OSX apps at the same time. Not 5%, more like 1-90% as the OS is doing different tasks. The issue is that MacOS is a lot more power-hungry. It is not designed to have apps in the background sleep in the same fashion as iOS. It’s more like a server OS, apps can run in the background because there is memory, storage and Swap. The storage would also need to be managed differently with SSD NAND, QLC and 3D TLC mix, just due to thermal and power consumption. And battery size/capacity. The core voltage would also need to be higher to accommodate peripherals and storage, which creates more heat and bulk, dealing with power management hardware. The iPad Pro can handle 1-2 devices, but a MacBook handles wider range and parallel devices, higher wattage, more bandwidth and more ports. Simply because it has a bigger battery and a wider bandwidth allocation. If they set up a partition and double the RAM to allow MacOS to run iPadOS… then you have a worse iPad, and a better laptop with a weaker battery. The iPad is designed for low power consumption. A laptop is designed on balance for performance and efficiency. The tech is feasibly there to achieve a hybrid iPad Pro but, the battery life is not.

[@gabriel1rodrigues2]

Best argument for Ipad existance. Still don't know why is so hard to make crossover apps for two processors with the same architecture in a company that make both kernels.

[@4RILDIGITAL]

The M4 iPad Pro is a beast but I don't think it's necessary if you're already using an M1. Let's hope that software updates can unlock the potential of these incredibly overpowered devices.

[@FastEddie86]

I have the M1 and I had to go and check it out in the store and I surprisingly was not blown away. I’ll skip it.

[@99domini99]

A new iPad will only be worth if we get something to actually use the power. I'd love to run either more advanced apps (including an IDE with the ability to build and run code on the device itself) or even run a virtual machine. The iPad is such a gimped device.

[@JasonBoyce]

I’m hopeful that WWDC drops a new OS that lets you basically start using it like a laptop. I’m still on a first gen iPad Pro with no need to upgrade whatsoever so long as it’s still exclusively for KZbin, Discord, web surfing and notes.

[@kaleb9829]

@@99domini99 this! I was suprised how crippled iPadOS is for dev work especially with an M1

[@AnimationByDylan]

I’m hoping we finally get 4K cat GIFs. The M4’s potential seems limitless!

[@Obikenobi93HD]

Thank you MKBHD for mentioning about the M1 iPad Pro still being a powerhouse for already what it is and can pretty much do everything like an iPad would do for browsing, KZbin, and other tasks. At this point, if you already have the beginning iPad Pro M series chips or even M2, there is no need to upgrade an iPad unless it breaks or pretty much gives out, so I am loving my M1 iPad Pro for what it does and can still use my 2nd gen Apple Pencil

[@arnoldpodcast3614]

I’m still using my M1 ipad pro, which is more than enough for my daily needs. Always love your content, mate!

[@jeromerelayson3850]

Yeah I just don’t see the upgrade I’m tempted with the trade in program but it’s still expensive

[@peterpetersen5772]

I use the 2018 iPad Pro for SIX years now and I still feel like I am not missing anything. It looks the same as the m4 iPad and is still super fast. That just shows me what a awesome device the iPad is.

[@ryanwright93]

I was running the exact same iPad from day of release, upgraded to the new M4 iPad Pro on day one and honestly you’re not missing much 😂

[@blocktastic]

still love my iPad Pro from 2018❤

[@legosoniclover]

Same here but mine is starting to slow down and I'm thinking about buying the new one. I also really want wireless charging!

[@sjoerdev]

it shows the lack of innovation

[@MultiverseAsheville]

I just finished my comment and it’s almost exactly the same one. My 12.9’’ 2018 pro still holds up beautifully in all departments.

[@user-ji3ug4rm9e]

10:29 I love when marques wore a foil and a spooky background song as a way to………

[@happybroski2112]

2:57 ok seriously what is that black hole that is next to the camera and the LED flash (not the LiDAR in the top left but the thing in the bottom right)?

[@budokai910]

@@happybroski2112not a single reviewer talks about it so I think we’re supposed to just ignore it

[@Archchill]

@@happybroski2112it’s an ambient light sensor for the true tone flash’s new “ambient lighting capabilities” that it uses to remove the shadows when scanning documents.

[@karmen.06]

@@happybroski2112 its the light sensor for scanning pdf's i think

[@sawdust1287]

@@aidenk9320 yeah, but you have mentioned 4 holes when in reality they are 5, what about the little black one on the down-right?

[@alejandrokp8456]

You always keeping it real 🔥🔥

[@papaGword]

I love the thinness. I use my 12.8 from 2018 (super thin) for studying and sheet music at the piano. And in each case thin and light feels better. There’s never a case where I’m worried about battery life because I’m not out in the woods with it. If you actually write on the thing on a flat surface, thickness is detrimental imo

[@AakashMaddi]

Marques changing his content to stand out from the crowded tech reviewers is a change I am all in for. Looking forward to his next roast of tech products.

[@bryanmejia7882]

I'm still using my 2018 iPad Pro from before the M series of chips and it still work really really well. Apple hasn't really given me a good reason to update in almost 6 years and at this rate it might be a while before I update again. Great vid like as usual.

[@manart6506]

That’s great an old iPad holds up so well. Even my iPad Pro 2017 is still good but I will appreciate the jump in features… I would like to save money but I know I will enjoy a lot the upgrade.

[@DavidCowie2022]

Watching this on my 2014 iPad Air. The battery is a bit tired, but my only reason to upgrade is creeping software incompatibility. The 2022 base iPad is looking good.

[@mitchelllanden8486]

i just traded my 2018 12.9 pro in for the 13 m4, just because the battery was getting so bad, other than that it was great

[@wicsb2036]

Putting the pencil on one of the narrow sides would block the speakers

[@akvammen]

Huh, mine came without the brick. 13” 1 tb 🧐

[@user-hb9sl3xe4t]

so helpful review! Thanks!

[@mypetdrgn]

Great channel! Thx for your down to earth honest reviews

[@siiir1322]

Making the IPad thinner, reducing the battery capacity but keeping approximately the same battery life thanks to the M4 INSTEAD of just keeping the same thickness and giving the new IPad Pro more battery life is like the most Apple thing ever. The things Apple does for marketing just to avoid giving the IPad actual desktop programs, making sure to not kill off the MacBook lmao

[@thesahilk]

As an 13inch M1 ipad pro user since day 1, the biggest thing i want from it is to be lighter. It is a large device and get heavy to hold while watching videos and walking around, so anything to make it lighter makes it a product that easier to use for longer. I think thats what Apple is optimising for.

[@taylor92493]

It’s very Apple. And I know it’s wild, but I feel like it could be thinner/lighter. I can hold it with one hand, but it’s still too heavy for that to be perfect. It shouldn’t come at the expense of battery life or performance though. So all weird choices.

[@quadrosglenn]

My M4 11" as almost the same battery life as my m1 11" and i just wish they made it to the thickness of the camera bump and just gave us more battery. Really annoying.

[@thesahilk]

@@taylor92493 but it didnt come at the expense of battery, its still the same battery life but now lighter. You can demand more battery life but they literally gave what you asked for, thinner/lighter without the expense of battery life

[@siiir1322]

@@taylor92493 Well I believe there should be a lighter IPad, let’s call it the „Air“ and make that for your average customer that watches Netflix, reads emails and does other media consumption on it, and there should be a beefy iPad for the real professionals that work with it, have it nearly the entire time on their tables anyways and idk, the Ipad „pro“ would be a fitting name for that device I think. Sorry for the sarcasm

[@RKelly.]

After 13 years, You finally convinced me to get the nexus 7 tablet.

[@MikeLikesChannel]

Android tablet apps are utterly *dog shit*. Also can’t reply to iMessages on that. Pass.

[@Megalaoofania]

@@MikeLikesChannel ok mr. "android is bad because imessage isn't on there", go join the party next door

[@creativepicnl]

I have the 2013 version running a cyanogenmod and it still goes. 😂 lightweight, thin, solid screen and punchy speakers.

[@anony_meows]

​@@MikeLikesChannel cmon get real. the fact that it doesn't reply to iMessages is an advantage.

[@cbotten106]

Glad he inspired you to get off the mark.

[@sandmen77]

It is a helpful review! Helped me because I am sure I will stick to my M1 2020 iPad Pro

[@Termynat0r]

So great to see you mentioning you don’t need one because you already have the M1 iPad. It makes me feel save that I also don’t need it.

[@paulbrooks4395]

A note on the power brick, I've had issues where my iPad won't gain charge and only hold steady under use. Enough use will drain the battery while plugged in. A charger should always cover the maximum discharge rate a battery puts out.

[@suemason]

That might actually be an issue with your iPad, mine doesn’t do that

[@hyperhippyhippohopper]

You shouldn't be charging while in use. It can wear down one battery cell faster than the others in a process called Rapid Cycling. Also if it gets too hot it will slow down or even halt charging automatically to protect it from permanent and irreversible damage. Read the instructions on lithium ion batteries.

[@CheaterCodes]

​@@hyperhippyhippohopper while plugged in, the device shouldn't be using the battery, only charging it. That shouldn't cause rapid cycling. ofc if the power brick is too weak, then the device might have to drain the battery to cover power spikes. which is why the brick should be powerful enough to power the device on its own

[@alin116]

@@hyperhippyhippohopper what are you on about? They literally market these devices as usable with an external screen which charges them.

[@iamrobot396]

​@@hyperhippyhippohopperthey literally market the iPad as a portable Mac. Does your Mac battery die when it's plugged in. What a stupid take I mean you are apple user so I shouldn't be surprised

[@bryce9067]

I'm living for these completely honest reviews.

[@greatbathindian]

You know what would be even more honest? Mkbhd dissing apple for the overvalued ipads but endorsing dbrand which sells overpriced expensive skins!

[@mathufnn]

​@@greatbathindian that's kinda lame, but at least dbrand makes actual good products and are somewhat worth the premium

[@salmiakki5638]

That's should no be a high mark. That should be the baseline. Good marks should go to interesting and poignant point of views

[@ARC1300]

For me it should be a great upgrade and being that I’m an artist also makes doubly so.

@@greatbathindianI could see your point if skins were necessary. Being that they’re more of a customizable thing that you get for design purposes, their target audience is probably people who can afford to spend a little more.

[@thebrownthomascrown917]

And there it is..Between 5:00-6:00 minutes. The applications that take advantage of all that power is VERY thin. I'm still on the 2019 Pro and I haven't really seen a reason to upgrade. I edit on the road in LumaFusion, illustrate in Procreate and process in Adobe Lightroom...no problem.

[@gwbrunner]

Nice video. I really enjoyed your take on the New iPad Pro.

[@cherry.berry2]

0:51 1. *Ultra thin:* Probably to compete with Galaxy Tab Ultra. Really good battery life but would be even better had iPad been thicker. 2:51 2. *Missing parts:* Removed ultrawide camera. Speakers are less bass-y since less room. Packaging has no more stickers (plastic reduction) but still has a (bad) charging brick. 4:57 3. *"Computer" SKUs:* Overpowered iPad stuck between iPad Air and Macs. New M4 chip doesn't affect regular iPad stuff. Also, in the past, "higher end" iPads with more storage also has more RAM- but now higher end iPad Pros also more cores of CPU and textured display option. 8:05 4. *Tandem OLED:* Bit brighter more contrast version of what we've already been seeing. Less blooming for perfect HDR content with pitch black blacks. Regular stuff won't have much difference. 9:23: 5. *Pencil Conspiracy:* New find my, squeeze sensor (selecting tools), haptic motor (confirmation), barrel rotation, fake shadow (show location of pointer). They moved iPad selfie camera to landscape location, but because of that moved Apple Pencil magnets so that the Apple Pencil Pro is only compatible with new iPad (conspiracy). *Conclusion:* get this if buying new iPad, do not upgrade if you already have iPad. Waiting for WWDC for iPad OS news.

[@MWELASEDUBANDLELA]

There's absolutely no need to do this.

[@cherry.berry2]

@@MWELASEDUBANDLELA I was just thinking mkbhd is really good at making entertaining videos out of even the smallest updates, but how much substance is actually in the video, and how much is extended and dragged on for watch time?

[@MandeepSingh-hn4jd]

Thanks for saving my time

[@lowerding]

Wow thanks!

[@MarcosCodas]

@@cherry.berry2sometimes I want the whole show. Sometimes, I just need the tl;dw. This was the perfect video to do this. Thank you. Please, keep it up. We need more choice about how our time is spent 👌🏻

[@loicstephan3719]

10:50 they had to reaarange the components *proceeds to put a clip of jerry decimating the ipad☠☠☠😂

[@dummydummy2120]

I pre ordered the air. I had the iPad 6th gen before. What I realized these tablets are best at is Remote Desktop into a windows 10 machine running tablet mode.

[@Plantedbetta]

That shadow that changes shape to the tool is amazing can’t wait for them to expand it Little

[@betty-annbryce5963]

I will resist. My 2018 ipad is still doing all the things i need it to do well. Let's see what they do next year. Keep up the good work!!!

[@midnitestate]

That's one thing apple gets right with there iPads and iPhones. My grandmothers iPhone 8 still runs as quick as it was when it was new. They do a good job keeping the majority of the performance close dispite the spec changes.

[@DragnDon]

I bought an 11" iPad Pro back in 2018, still running strong as well. When I worked for Apple, I debated on a laptop or an iPad, well there were next to zero support calls for iPads, so I'm very glad on my choice. It only saddens me that there is no simple tool for generating SVGs. Rather maddening that unless I step up to some $160/year option, I can only create SVGS wither on my WINDOWS machine or some 3rd party website. For my uses, this is literally the ONLY thing that is preventing me from being 100% reliant on the iPad as my sole 3D printing modelling machine. Otherwise, for being 6 years old, the battery holds up ridiculously long time and unless I'm way from home, it's always plugged in.

[@handlemonium]

Engineered obsilencence haters unite! ✊

[@AchakBrooks]

I bought but thinking to return to do the same. I use it for art too. The M4 1TB 13" is snappy, some brush lag issues are gone but the 2018 had barely any issue to begin with. If working with video though, it is about x4 faster rendering and overall much smoother once you begin piling on effects in Davinci 3D Nomad you will be able to subdivide models to levels were you can get realistic pores on an "average properly topologized head bust sculpt" with the m4 vs being stuck around 5 with 2018 1TB (extra ram in this model too) which is good but still would need a bit more for realism and stability. I'll probably return and will wait to see WDC. Hopefully there will be more incentive keep by then. I can't justify the value with the price $2600USD-ish (tablet+pen+keyboard) It makes more sense to use desktop tools with their entry level macbooks using the 2018 with sidecar (which works extremely well now, lag was reduced significantly). It's Apples plan make this the option, annoyed but always how they do business.

[@nicholasmiller6144]

I got a refurbished 2018 ipad pro back in 2019 and it still feels incredibly nice to use. It helps that I don't use intensive creative apps much but whenever I dabble the performance is great. I won't be surprised if the thing is still going strong 5 years from now while they put out the M10 or whatever.

[@rawmango1321]

The thinnest and most powerful youtube and netflix machine

[@dervon9526]

Needs all that power for genshin impact ☠️

[@momospoosi]

​@@dervon9526 On the low

[@x17chan]

Sad but true

[@pokiblue5870]

it made me realize i should just buy a surface pro lol and i can upgrade the ssd storage later but the ipad pro you cant upgrade

[@kevikiru]

This is a tired cliché. Just because you don't have a use for it other than entertainment doesn't others don't! It's a great artist's canvas, prosumer video editing, audio and photo editing. The people who want one just for entertainment will buy iPad, mini and air!

[@markconroy9033]

Your reviews never disappoint! I was looking at the new M4 iPad options and totally missed the change in RAM and Cores. Thank you for pointing that out. And as an artist, I’m certainly intrigued by the barrel rotation feature on the Pencil Pro. Again, thank you for the detail!

[@Invisiblenotbroken]

I really love the new screens and you cannot beat the pencil and Magic Keyboard upgrade

[@kavishdevar]

really didn't expect that music build-up at 10:28😂

[@AbdulRehman-ew5fu]

"that was on purpose"

[@goodness2410]

Same here😂. It caught me off guard, too me by surprise. I thought I was the only one

[@presycebaez8442]

32k views in 15 minutes is insane. Crazy to think I started watching you in like 10th grade. I’m 26. Love from NC

[@frosty_ryan]

and that many views this late at night, astounding

[@Anthony-es7py]

133k Views already 😮

[@GarrisonBurrows]

Yeah, I started watching him in 7th grade, and I started my full time career this week

[@freerunnering]

97k views in 37 minutes now. It's amazing how quick his videos get views.

[@CertifiedSlamboy]

@@frosty_ryan Most of the world aren’t on the same Timezone(s) as the USA

[@user-hu8fo8gd8t]

Excellent review! Very thorough. I have the M1 11” iPad Pro and still love the picture quality and still love what it already is capable of doing. Thanks! 👍🏾

[@SamWelker]

This is iPad is absolutely wonderful for one practical purpose. Professional creative work. That being said there is only 1 unique situation where the iPad is the best for creative work and that's using Procreate. All other softwares are just better and faster elsewhere. I look forward to that changing but we're not anywhere near an ipad being a main useful machine yet. Thank you for the review Marques and team.

[@Javier-mk1jj]

I appreciate Marques, because unlike other tech channels that try to hype the reason for buying a new iPad in part because Apple ships them on to review. Marques talks about what really matters, like why make it thinner why not put a bigger battery? Why do I have to buy the new pencil? Why not make it an option not a necessity when I already have the Apple Pencil 2?

[@ScottDocAndersen]

Its a very helpful review. I much prefer your honest approach to teach. Thank you!!!!

[@XVNRX]

M1 iPad Pro squad where yall at?????

[@jkelly1701]

Great review

[@natali_vieru15]

Great review. As always. I just wish you could have checked the nano texture display in detail as well! Thank you for the review

[@TySchmidt]

True, from the side by side comparisons I've seen, it kills the saturation and sharpness. They should have done something like the S24 Ultra

[@Devory_5150]

You are the best product reviewer period. I’m a huge fan and I love the information you give the consumer. Keep up the awesome work videos sir! Shout outs from H TOWN .

[@ZiouyHiocv]

I adore your writing.

[@kaiyas-eye]

Watching this on my 2018 iPad 9.7 without any intention to update (I just love it too much)

[@mohamedzegaa]

9:50 Thats amazing, would never notice. Pretty good and beautifull feature

[@shannoncaeley]

As an artist locking the new pencil to the crazy expensive iPad (if I want the same equivalent to what I currently experience with M2 Pro) REALLY ticks me off. I could afford a new pencil, but paying 1,600 in order to just use the pencil? Nuts. And then I can’t even have my old pencil as a backup 😂.

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

This is what prevents me from relying upon an iPad as a drawing device.

[@nicholasmaguire328]

@@TomJones-tx7pb What I don't like is that the Apple Pencil doesn't work if it's not paired. Every now and then my Apple Pencil would disconnect from my iPad Pro M2 while I was drawing and stop working until it paired again. I prefer the way on the Microsoft Surface that the Surface Pen can still draw while not paired, it only needs to be paired to use the buttons.

[@PureJadeKid]

MKBHD failed to mention that the new Apple Pencil Pro also works on the new more affordable iPad Air M2. This would still require an upgrade, but you don't have to buy the highest-end iPad to use the new pencil features if you are an artist and you would benefit from those features.

[@pierrex3226]

You have to accept that if you work on apple, you will always, always be milked to the max. It's their DNA. Their valuation on wall street is such because of that.

[@jared9127]

This is exactly why Marques' conspiracy theory makes no sense-any Pencil sales Apple gains from moving the magnets are more than offset by the sales they would have gotten if they didn't have to do it. *Tons* of people would have spent $129 on the Pencil Pro for their older iPads, but almost nobody is going to spend $1,000+ on a new iPad just to get the Pencil Pro.

[@gamerboi760]

It’s amazing how you keep Apple and others like them always on their toes 😊 … Great review.

[@bryanwoolbertmusic8564]

The Jerryrig tear down was so much fun. Also this video was great too!

[@Jayvk-px7of]

That shadow details for pencil. Love it ❤

[@w32211]

Finally a video for the M4 iPad Pro from MKBHD (again)

[@benhenderson8952]

Customizing wallpapers is pretty dope

[@ricklevitt2650]

Good review with excellent insights!

[@tanvirhassan7033]

keep going with your honest review

[@MrMekishiko]

Earliest I've ever been to one of your videos man. Just wanna say thank you for all your work honestly. You're one of the few KZbinrs whose videos I actively look forward to watching.

[@moistgoat8170]

I don't currently have a tablet and have been thinking of getting one. The air would be more than enough but I'm a sucker for OLED and it keeps tempting me.

[@samarjitroy6315]

Thanks. This review helps. I also have M1 ipad pro 11. And was thinking for a bigger screen with M4. But if performance is more or less the same then does not make much sense.

[@fcmeg]

Thanks I appreciate your review. I am surprised by most of the other reviewers gushing over skinny and glossing over way more expensive.

[@DEVICMedia]

Let's just appreciate honesty of Marques, compared to other 99% KZbinrs out there making people buy latest and greatest - things that people don't even need, just so they get sponsored or are sponsored by the brand of that product. We need more healthy critique and actually letting brands know what customers want and need instead of having 10 new features that doesn't fix the main concerns that people have with the product. Well done! And yes I am also sticking with M1 iPad as I barely even use iPad - mostly when I travel, usually MacBook and iPhone are the devices I use on daily basis.

[@randominsightz]

agree. coz he can now but them without relying to sponsorships so he can say more unbiased reviews. he's also more on apple user so he is much accustomed to its ecosystem so he can discuss its pros, cons and his disappointments.

[@Tonabillity]

Sooo he sincerely thinks there is no real need for me to buy a new iPad, yet for “some” reason he’s urging me to purchase a leather-skinned iPad case. Honestly???🙄🤷🏾

[@DEVICMedia]

@@Tonabillity he sad he is using M1 iPad himself and no need to upgrade for to M4, and he recommended people to buy if have older iPad models. Which all makes sense, also the leather skin as you've seen is not only for M4 but any iPad/iPhone as well - just general ad that's added to the video.

[@Tonabillity]

@@DEVICMedia I know. I have no need to buy the new iPad if I already own a recent one. However I should buy a new leather iPad case for Reasons 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@andyH_England]

@@DEVICMedia Actually, I would recommend people waiting for WWDC before using your viewer clout to recommend keeping the M1 over the M4. The M4 has serious upgrades if you do the tests, and of course, if AI is BIG, then the M4 will be a no-brainer upgrade for real professionals (not people who buy the Pro to get the luxury features). But after WWDC, he can do an "I was wrong" M4 video!

[@somn]

Can’t wait to get one for recording music. Just hoping that Cubasis updates to something better. I am currently using Logic Pro for iPad after ignoring it because of the subscription

[@HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA]

The fake shadow seems like a very cool blend of the accelerometer sensors of the pencil and the code in the OS to read the sensors and render the shadow in real time.

[@sagshere816]

He seems much more honest with his reviews this year as compared to last couple of years, and i am loving it!

[@Jarvis2077]

Yeahhh there's no false sense of excitement or hyping boring features.

[@manart6506]

@@Jarvis2077I found these “honest” reviews weird because I loved all the little upgrades. I was expecting much less. So it chokes me (a bit) the negativity about what I found out to be so cool.

[@nikolagvozdenovic940]

Because he is now so big that they can't just cancel him. There was even recent fiasco about Marques about killing a product AI Pin from Humane. It was only because he was honest in his review.

[@milkfatpercent]

Love the audio cues on the title cards. Great job guys ♥️

[@JR-uy2nd]

Yesterday I tried the New ipad pro 11 and I was impress by how thin it was and light. It felt like it shouldn't be that thin, it was like I was grabbing a pamphlet not a piece of tech. I am not an apple fan, the way they artificially cripple their devices are criminal but this new ipad impressed me.

[@dylreesYT]

It's the display that I've been wanting since I got an 11-inch iPad Pro (2018), for which I've hated the display and preferred my iPad 4th Gen's display. The shadow is something I've not heard and is wild though!

[@jorger9182]

Finally! Been waiting for your video on this new device 🙌🏽

[@razbwife]

Thank you for another awesome review!!!!!!

[@sibinm]

There’s a very niche market for whom the size reduction (and more importantly) the weight reduction it’s important - for instance, me. I use the iPad mainly for reading/annotating research papers (like 99% of my use is this) and the lower weight is a godsend for this! Also, none of the existing e-readers come close to the writing quality+speed of the Pencil+iPad Pros, so there’s that!🤷🏽‍♂️ Plus having a good browser to look up related work, adding papers to the repositories, etc. (and even editing papers on overleaf for instance) is a big win.

[@TiagoRamosVideos]

Great video 🙏 very interesting to know that the more expensive version has so many advantages 👌

[@joekavalauskas8767]

Apple and Tim Cook are masters at pricing structures at @10:25

[@KL-xv5gj]

Greed and slowing down Apple’s innovation, Tim Cook!🧑‍🍳

[@mopnem]

Always appreciate Marques' fairer take on these products.

[@Kevin-hq5os]

I still have a 2017 3rd gen 12.9 iPad Pro and I can’t imagine it ever getting better than this.

[@Anu8ius]

Good video, but the pencil and camera being where they are does make a lot of sense: in landscape, the ipad is usually tilted to the left (case in point the stand-cases and magic keyboard), so having the pen on that side wouldnt work. The bottom side is blocked by the speakers and port, the topside has the powerbutton, which would get covered on

[@C1CB10]

Finally! a good review.

[@papadougpapadougsadventures]

I picked up the M4 13” 512 WiFi+cellular. I had a previous IPad Pro. No real differences in my use case. The screen is ridiculous, I love it. I’m leaving on an extended trip for a few years and I thought I might as well get current. $2048 is very speedy but it is my primary device for everyday use.

[@akki54000]

That foil cap was funny 😅😅 Loved the build up..

[@Grant5321]

I don’t know why but I’m kind of excited for the thin iPhone. I always liked the movement toward thinner and thinner devices.

[@mvglt]

Always love your videos Marques! ⭐

[@Fotogs]

Great rundown of the new iPad and I agree 100% with your evaluation of the "why not" thoughts of bigger battery instead of going the thinner route etc. I love the way your dive into the technology, you're still the best evaluator on KZbin.

[@pvalpha]

I have a 2018 ipad pro and I'm loathing the day when it is too old and stops getting updates. I might get a replacement when that day comes.

[@WHOPAINTEDDAT]

I legit just got the model before this couple months ago for proceeate ima stick with that one thank you

[@joesalyers]

The M4 is Apple's first full ARM V9 chip as well and supports certain types of multiplicational executions the previous M chips don't have with ARM Version 8. This is why the binned chip and the full chip score so similarly, because the benchmarks aren't testing for the new types of instructions yet. So we won't know how they really stack up until Geekbench and others update their benchmark apps.

[@ralphortiz1398]

Are you referring to matrix operations?

[@marcust123]

Real world usr tho even m1 does the exact same and m4 not much faster at all

[@jmiller6066]

It's just there's not really anything to actually use all that power on. It's still only running iOS. Even for the niche things iPads are actually good at productivity-wise like art, the new Pencil features are a bigger deal than the CPU.

[@andyH_England]

@@marcust123 Some iPad M4 reviews compare performance using real tests like FCP, and it is clear that the M4 can be much faster. Whether that is important for you is another question, but claiming it isn't a big upgrade is untrue and unfair. For people that use these pro apps the M4 will save them time and that means money.

[@marcust123]

@@andyH_England i tested it myself and i could not see a difference maybe 1 or 2 apps will take advantage of the new chip like 3d rendering etc but even then the m1 can still do that yes if you can do performance tests i did that aswel and m4 will come out on top significantly but when you use them in the real world there is not much difference at all except for the nice oled screen i returned my m4 and kept my ipad m1

[@burnte]

Just like you I had the m1 and only now upgraded. I will say the weight reduction is nice, and the screen is gorgeous.

[@DomsYouTube]

I like the funny more dramatic approach with this video

[@parkinsonlester4074]

Seeing Marques being smiley and joking is untypical and pleasuring at same time.