MkLeo (Byleth) vs Zomba (ROB) - Ultimate Singles Winners Top 16 - Crown the Third

[@thinmanjones5000]

When Leo is up 2-0, but there's 13 minutes left in the video 👀

[@brewynespinal1178]

i thought the same as you 🤣

[@awxii_]

Leo is about to have an entire villain arc slowly unfold after Zomba called him "mickeyleo" 😂😂😂

[@oscarcalles4117]

What does Zomba mean by that? I don’t have twitter.

[@Yo_soy_Annna]

Same, I want to know the lore. Can you explain?

[@theflashgordon193]

Funny enough it's plausible way of interpreting mkleo. I don't blame him

[@awxii_]

@@oscarcalles4117 Something being mickey mouse which basically means something being fake/bad and silly.

[@awxii_]

@@Yo_soy_Annna So basically when Zomba fought against Leo before Crown at BOBC5 he won against him 3-1 and Leo got sent to losers. Leo lost the tournament at 9th to Kameme on game 5 dropping out of the tournament. In reference to how Leo's results were getting worse and more inconsistent over 2023, Zomba tweeted "how the fuck did Leo lose to me 😂" and in response Leo said "If I play good there is no chance u beat me imma be real, but good stuff!" and then Crown came up after that and Zomba made a tweet with a Mickey Mouse gif before fighting off against Leo again which means he thinks he's not trying and he's basically clowning on Leo just for fun and games and to nudge him up a bit. Zomba put his tag as "mickeyleo" when fighting against him and then Leo lost after Zomba reverse 3-0'd him as seen in this video which leads up to now to where he still thinks Leo should be doing better than he is and that he's sandbagging.

[@mynamejot8623]

Zomba winning game 4 due to not one but two platforms moving at the right time is crazy

[@VishnuKumar-nt5oy]

I screamed at the backair

[@nathanlevesque7812]

winning bc the option Leo went for didn't factor in the plat movement, and bc the option Zomba went for did factor it in

[@sonny5164]

​@@nathanlevesque7812 It was purely luck

[@subzero9889]

​@@sonny5164The plats always move at the same time, technically a factor you can account for, therefore not luck

[@gianz2066]

​@@subzero9889 it's not luck if he accounted for it. But we don't know if thats the case . I have my doubts, but to each their own.

[@TheKABE09]

So Zomba just reversed 3-0d the king of reverse 3-0s all while using the tag mickeyleo

[@isgamer-8732]

Yep he shattered the cookie jar and ate Leo's stocks

[@juanluisaguirre2960]

@@isgamer-8732 I see what you did there, nice!

[@slice768]

Mickey Leo is absolutely insane. It’s even worse that he got reversed 3-0d

[@luismendez8241]

Mickey Leo is the opposite of game 4 Leo

[@alyxrjames322]

Lmao zomba with the MickeyLeo

[@Fillet_O_Chris]

Is there an inside joke for this or something?

[@cawwhhs6487]

Waiting in this too

[@mathwizard296]

It means Leo is part of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse

[@Fillet_O_Chris]

@@mathwizard296 😲

[@pabloarambula4627]

​@@mathwizard296 what does this mean? Is there a reference to losing in the show or what's the deal?

[@rie442]

I love the ripple effects the 2020 finals have cus MickeyLeo tag is hilarious

[@thekingbradable]

This loss was a bad look for Leo. Zomba can talk all the trash he wants to now I can’t even be mad lol

[@jamesgreenwood1703]

The Leo ego is rare but he f’ed around and found out

[@carltonmensah349]

Not hating or anything? But does Zimbabwean have any gold medals?

[@gibran8959]

@@carltonmensah349 Leo lost so

[@deanoor9391]

Yeah the medals don't matter if he STILL lost

[@carltonmensah349]

@@gibran8959 Lel not even talking about Leo I’m talking about zomba..😆

[@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569]

I swear, this beef between Leo and Zomba is making competitive Ult so entertaining to me as a spectator. Something I've always preferred more with spectating competitive Melee is how you'll see much more rivalries and beef between the top players. I feel like it's a big reason why Mango and Hbox are as popular as they are. As long as everyone is aware that the beef is nothing personal and all for fun, then a lot is added to the viewing experience whenever matches between 2 beefing players come up. Which sadly might be a big ask for this community. I just hope Leo supporters and Zomba supporters can keep it civil and not do something stupid like sending death threats to the other player.

[@2FadeMusic]

And if it is personal, then it's even more fun. Like that Salem vs Leffen set lmao

[@theflashgordon193]

It toxic for me but I get your point

[@JorgeMorales-xv6qx]

I mean zomba is a little kid .. lol Leo dokt be starting beef with people like that Zomba does talk a lot of shit for someone who ain’t top10. Zomba will NEVER what MKLeo did . No one in ultimate will

[@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569]

@@JorgeMorales-xv6qx First of all, I'm pretty sure Leo actually did start the beef when he made some passive aggressive reply to a tweet Zomba made after beating Leo at Battle of BC. And 2nd of all, even if Zomba isn't a top 10 player for the ranking season, he's certainly been playing like one for the last few tournaments. At the very least, he's been doing better than Leo, which makes talking shit not seem as stupid imo.

[@Ya-cat1111]

@@JorgeMorales-xv6qx might as well fix your grammar before talking trash on people who are way better than you

[@bonahldoh]

Leo missed a lot of stocks and punishes, also rolling a lot. Zomba stayed calm and secured his game. It is what it is, hope they can face each other more often

[@nathanlevesque7812]

he's always been a roller

[@seansolo3583]

@@nathanlevesque7812especially with byleth, helps compensate for bad runspeed

[@HellRiver92]

too many nairs, that’s what Zomba was punishing a lot

[@JamesBilliam]

reverse 3-0ing with the tag "mickeyleo". Yeah, we're in the best timeline.

[@ExcellentSunset]

Dumb comment

[@garrett4820]

Leo laughing and shaking his head after every win into getting reverse 3-0d was way too satisfying to watch

[@JColeGlazer754]

Haven't seen tournaments in a while but I've seen a lot of people be happy that Leo didn't win, is Leo hated now?

[@myoblivion420]

​@@JColeGlazer754 It's just trash talk/banter. People take this shit to seriously 😂

[@xanander4693]

@@JColeGlazer754 Calm down. We all love Leo but sometimes it’s funny seeing ppl get humbled.

[@JColeGlazer754]

@@myoblivion420 what's the context tho? As I said before, I haven't watched tourneys in a while so I dont know whats going on in the scene as much as I used to, but why does zomba have a mickeyleo tag?

[@JColeGlazer754]

@@xanander4693 idk why you're saying calm down, im not mad it's a genuine question. Like I said, I haven't been as involved in the scene as before, so I dont see how wanting context equates to me being mad

[@dripfoe_3307]

Laugh to get bodied😂

[@heikorudiger3258]

always has been a true combo trashtalk into getting bodied

[@gdmrhotshot3731]

MKLeo said that this was his most embarassing moment in his career

[@Oggre]

If Leo wants to win again he has to gain weight lol

[@gerardoortega323]

13:51 bruh the game 4 platform saved zomba from dying right there. For once Mkleo wasn't the one with the plot armor

[@theflashgordon193]

Who is mkleo ? You mean mickey Leo ?

[@juanluisaguirre2960]

Damn not the laugh to reverse 3-0 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@deanoor9391]

Leo's ego was like the saiyan pride in dbz....everything all good until they underestimate their foe and get bodied like vegeta did on a regular

[@Walufkinblast]

Damn rob stole two stocks in just a moment just using side b, that was amazing

[@Weebfox]

The game 4 platform was crazy

[@Molten-Throne]

Hell of a comeback by zomba. Leo played well, but it feels like byleth relies on some degree of chance. The consistency is the problem with them. In my opinion.

[@tuckersalm4338]

I think you’re right with the degree of chance and kind of 50/50s. Makes being consistent much harder I would think, constantly either guessing or trying to predict where they di, tech chasing the down smash on rolls. Byleth is a great to good character and Leo pilots them exceptionally, just a decent amount of guessing or predicting on some options. No competitive experience at all so I very well could be way off I just enjoy watching

[@Molten-Throne]

@@tuckersalm4338 nah I think you hit it on the head, from everything I’ve seen. When Leo using byleth makes the correct reads it’s godly, and kills opponents so early. But if he’s wrong or misses slightly, the games get away from him. Also it seems like nair isn’t very safe in shield, which is so big for Leo’s byleth it really hurts if he’s missing nairs and getting punished for it.

[@N0GG1N]

Byleth is one of the most consistent characters in the game. This is just untrue lmao.

[@N0GG1N]

The primary aspect of a character that makes them either consistent or inconsistent is their kill power and Byleth has arguably the most consistent kill power in the game.

[@Pateissier]

​@@N0GG1N wow I guess ganon is the most consistent character then

[@nydeity9100]

Shouldn’t have been laughing. That is karma.

[@andrewsanchez9360]

Didn’t MKLeo once said “ No One can beat me in a game of 5 “ crazy .

[@michaelwu7678]

When did he say this? Sounds very implausible considering he has lost many best of 5s before

[@sryberg16]

⁠@@michaelwu7678 he said it at the Ludiwg invitational, where he told Ludwig at the beginning of tournament he was going to sweep

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@sryberg16 Funny considering that while he did win the tournament, he was never taken to a game 5.

[@Yo_soy_Annna]

I've seen many people cover the Sparg0 Versus MKLeo set, but I think people should be talking about this game, as well! I N C R E D I B L E

[@joshua_krieger]

Zomba played amazing!

[@diegojaraestivill5620]

Amazyngs footstool to down air, thats what a very advance techniche , zomba is in another level D:

[@johndavidco8501]

Can't believe Leo got reverse 3-0'd

[@oliviaestevez8083]

Because in game 4, The moving platforms saved Zomba first, & then got him the kill.

[@antmancometh]

I know the whole Mickey Mouse thing is meant to be disrespect/playful smack talk but like…what does Mickey Mouse actually mean in this context? I’m a bit slow to the smash vernacular

[@cooperm4185]

In 2020 the NBA played all their games at Disneyworld due to COVID, so people called the Lakers winning a Mickey Mouse victory since there was no crowd (which can have a huge effect in basketball)

[@rie442]

​@@cooperm4185 the fact that it all derives from there and I see it all they over in the smash scene is so funny to me

[@sumothesmilingshibainu]

​@@cooperm4185 hasn't "Mickey Mouse" been a slang term for easy for a long time?

[@thekingbradable]

It’s a reference to NBA bubble where everyone called the Lakers championship ring a Mickey Mouse ring. Basically saying “yeah that didn’t count”.

[@francoisturcotte3982]

It has nothing to do with basket ball you're reading too much into this. Its all about Mickey mouse being a goofy ass character. Basicaly zomba is calling leo goofy and not treatening, much like a cartoon character whon thinks he's tough but is in fact a joke.

[@johnbingham5693]

1:42 could someone please explain how that killed? He didn’t even enter the “bubble” phase, he just got hit and was in the blast zone. Didn’t even meteor smash.

[@miguel1199]

He might have been DI’ing down?

[@Alexrun902]

The blast zone is reduced to killing you at the bubble area if you're in hitstun or have high enough knockback when you reach it. Byleth just got a strong Down Air.

[@sergiooliva2517]

What a comeback! Zomba adapted so well! He is the best!

[@darkdraconis]

He had the best luck lmao. First the platform saves his life by moving and then secures the kill by moving. Literally carried by platform and Rob lool

[@sergiooliva2517]

lol whats next? #banThePlatform #banRob #banTheLuck , he is just a great player!

[@darkdraconis]

@@sergiooliva2517 what do you mean what's next? Rob is cheese af but there is no reason to ban him nor did I say "ban him" OFC he is a great player a really really good player anyone who thinks otherwise has no clue about comp smash. But literally everything I wrote in my first comment is 100% factual, care to disagree?

[@darkdraconis]

@@sergiooliva2517 I don't quite remember the major but leo won the final neutral which lead to the kill and tournament win due to exactly what happened to somba, platform luck at least people back then Recognized it as such LUCK now you wanna tell me soma didn't got super lucky twice in a row and was carried by his cheese ass character?

[@Daniel-uy1sv]

@@darkdraconis A cheesy ass character Leo tried to pick up (but couldn't make it work) and constantly practices with MKBigBoss. Leo got outlucked and outskilled.

[@カイロ温かいから好き]

いつも心にミッキーレオ

[@vanRules92]

Bien merecido el Leo por andar de presumido y confiarse de mas en las primeras 2 rondas, La habilidad de Zomba de canalizar sus emociones y regresar para ganar 3 rondas seguidas estubo muy cabron.

[@minatonakizame3226]

Si eso fue el único error, ya que el R.O.B de zomba si bien no es malo, tampoco es el mejor, leo debió de manter la calma y ver el patrón al qué siempre recurría zomba al regresar a la plataforma y castigarla, eso le hubiera dado la victoria sin duda alguna

[@acronix-053]

La cuestión es que Leo sólo se burlaba mas no se confío simplemente zomba lo supero como ya a venido pasando con todos los tops desde génesis

[@OscarBrewer]

The good think about this is that we were able to see MkLeo vs Sparg0 in losers bracket.

[@isaiahwilliams8454]

Commentators always d eating off of leo

[@ZeusThend]

He's gonna need to change that tag to MickeyZomba 😂

[@jj5jj5]

16:35 that was clean af

[@sailgoat4733]

Say what you will but zomba straight up outplayed Leo that last game, and Leo is my favorite player so no bias

[@sitalabudha104]

I wonder what leo will have to say after losing to zombo TWICE

[@usern4metak3ns]

mkleo donating games lol... thank you for your donation mkleo

[@nydeity9100]

Nah bruh. Keep dickriding but he lost and he was trying.

[@carlitoscanjura3230]

At least for this I could see Leo vs spargo but… how Leo lose against rob 😮😅

[@randompickle5522]

Big fan of Leo's joker couldn't understand why u didn't switch to joker man switch ur opponents rhythm n capitalize with faster play

[@lando1296]

14:41 WHAT THE!!!

[@leonardobalderrama1301]

The gyro was still offstage

[@nemi9217]

13:51 14:41

[@susero616]

Leo got leo'd 😂

[@xanbarclaps9090]

Is there any other game or franchise that is dominated by only a few people? Why is smash like this?

[@evadekiryu5060]

Depends on your definition

[@gibran8959]

Other games are played by teams, so no. But this is the same case for basically any fighting game.

[@kimeriksson7445]

These commentators aren't what we wished for but hey, the games were great.

[@t_bone_4]

I really wanted Leo to win

[@KingAndy9Real]

Zomba my goat lets goo

[@avery7939]

Disney new character

[@theincredibleillmo9385]

Hahaha, leo haters are bien pendejos. It’s funny to see a lot of bots and rat bots behind the phone.

[@sebbytron]

MICKEYLEO

[@erictisdell131]

If mkleo plays joker and rob he’d be really good he’s just gotta stick with those 2 though

[@andresdelbusto2184]

Man I feel like Zomba made game 4 look close (Almost went out of hand) so Leo would pick town and city again

[@goldman1996]

There is a difference between "disrespect" and "disrespectful." That tag is the latter.

[@HeavensMystery]

It's just admiration. He doesn't know how to express it fluently, but beating Leo means more to him than he knows how to properly deal with it.

[@Taylorperchasemccarthy]

He’s been “beefing” with Leo for the last couple weeks. After he beat him at Battle of BC, he tweeted asking basically “how the fuck did I just win that” and got Leo’s response of “ok but if I try you stand no chance, ggs”, imo the most disrespectful thing out of this budding rivalry because it downplayed Zomba’s win as “Leo wasn’t trying” if it was serious on Leo’s part. They played a $1k money match on Hbox’s stream this week, which Leo won 10-7, which I’m sure stirred up Zomba’s spirit, and today, with both of them playing genuinely well (Zomba out of his mind, Leo a slight return to form), Zomba still won. The tag may have gotten Leo a bit upset, but mindgames are a part of fighting games, it’s why taunts exist in the first place. Getting your opponent mad is a valid strategy, and that’s part of why Sonic and Steve can do so well on top of their crazy kits. They shook hands after the set too. Let Zomba talk his shit, this might be the new age Leo Tweek rivalry (given how one sided that’s been for the past two years), and I’m all for it.

[@manny55taqos]

Zombos luck on game 4 was insane

[@cooperm4185]

​@@manny55taqos agreed but that one is actually on Leo, he shouldn't have picked Town and he definitely should not have gone back

[@nicholas930]

​@@Taylorperchasemccarthy that rivalry always was one sided tbh (tweek vs Leo) just is the other way now

[@bigbrent224]

Now there isn't a single timeline of events where Leo dropped a set against ROB or Wolf with Joker.... WHY doesn't this man choose Joker where he has seen great results? His Joker is even better than it was. He is obviously great with Byleth but like bruh....

[@kemmybelleuwu]

I dont know

[@enemyskill4286]

stop making excuses

[@gibran8959]

'cause if he looses with joker then there isn't gonna be more excuses. "yeah I lost 'cause I wasn't even trying", "I didn't even pick joker", "I have a girlfriend", "I'm not even trying". Leo always bring some excuse and his fans have even more excuses, the main one being "He didn't use Joker".

[@DavionLane]

Joker loses to rob and zombgoat is the best rob

[@wwefan12398]

@@DavionLanezackray prime was best rob. watch his set vs leo, best set ever

[@pureawesomeness7431]

Where did all these haters appear from? 😂 Now they calling the GOAT ‘Mickey’? Is MkLeo the LeBron of Ultimate?

[@meorwss]

Zomba my goat

[@sinfinite7516]

Zongoat! Or Zomboat?

[@jwil2trill425]

Rob is so jank

[@JB-90]

Aaawwwww even if zomba wins this tournament doesn’t make him the best players just saying

[@owenicewater9704]

Mickeyleo

[@iluminaciondelcielo.995]

No mamen, Leo ya no trae nada. Un Rob random le remonta jajaja

[@acronix-053]

Zomba es bueno y Leo ya fue superado por la mayoría ya solo falta que maister y kola le ganen todos los demas ya lo hicieron

[@Daniel-uy1sv]

Jsjsjsjs Zomba no es un ROB random, es el mejor ROB de USA

[@growthzack9542]

Pain

[@city0616]

MkLeo purposely lost just to eliminate Sparg0 🤣 🤣

[@ralf1644]

The third time leo wins

[@jeremiahtannehill8870]

Zomba better than Spargo???????? Or when Leo tries there is a massive difference in the level he plays if he gets the runback Zimbabwean is getting packed up

[@jamesgreenwood1703]

Leo said he would smack Zomba up next time they played in bracket but guess who lost 😅

[@Barsee23]

zimbabwean?

[@kemmybelleuwu]

@@jamesgreenwood1703He said that last time when he played aegis. Leos ego is shattered rn

[@jamesgreenwood1703]

@@kemmybelleuwu I think he needed this so he can start actually trying again

[@drgeo2643]

Zomgay

[@jwil2trill425]

Who wears short shorts? 😂

[@jamesgreenwood1703]

Aren’t you the one watching him compete 😅

[@jwil2trill425]

Actually im watching leo bc i main byleth tard.

[@kisameh420]

@@jwil2trill425 bro Fire emblem is for bud light drinkers

[@jwil2trill425]

@@kisameh420 for libtards like yourself right? We dont drink bitch beer down south

[@danielrogers6862]

Shoulda went Joker

[@mzubuki]

Love Jesus, pray for wisdom.

[@pyrex8]

I could beat mkleo in a set, not cuz he’s trash or anything but he plays the easiest smash game ever

[@evadekiryu5060]

Huh?