MLB's Experiment With Their First Female Broadcaster Is Not Going Well

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@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
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@scottwaldo
@scottwaldo 2 ай бұрын
Julia Morales(the sideline reporter for the Astros) commentated one of the Astros games and did a better job than her 😭. It’s not that women can’t call games it’s just that they chose a bad first one
@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
She needs some work! But hopefully with time she’ll improve. Certainly we’re other (perhaps better) options though
@deestrick5712
@deestrick5712 2 ай бұрын
A Breggy Bomb!
@doodchappin
@doodchappin 2 ай бұрын
Just came down here to say this, and I have Mrs. Astros jersey and she signed it for me too. Absolutely awesome lady that doesn't feel fake and forced like every politician and most of these commentators.
@Alex.Jensen
@Alex.Jensen 2 ай бұрын
If this was a Man would he get "time to improve"? Nope. He would be fired. This must be that gender equality I hear so much about.
@ketch0_041
@ketch0_041 2 ай бұрын
@@Alex.Jensen you must not know about the White Sox commentators then but that doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to push so you must not care.
@bransag23
@bransag23 2 ай бұрын
"Hey Siri, it's not your night" is even more funny to me because of just how good he's been against the A's this year
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 2 ай бұрын
Her iPhone or iPad probably took offense to that ;)
@parkercrossland410
@parkercrossland410 2 ай бұрын
I feel like I've boiled down the issue pretty well. She's so caught up with trying to be a broadcaster that she stops being a baseball fan invested in the on-field action. Doesn't really matter what the context of the game is, she just wants to get her quips and zingers on air. It's like people who are in love with the pageantry and theatrics of love without being in love with the other person. Good commentators sound like people who, if they got the day off from broadcasting, would buy a ticket and go alone to watch the Tuesday afternoon day game anyways. They love baseball, commentary just happens to be a strong suit for them. Kavnar is in love with commentary, baseball is just the medium she expresses it through. That distinction can lead to those weirdly timed or questionably phrased moments.
@jimhyman8544
@jimhyman8544 2 ай бұрын
Well said. 👍
@carlosaguirre9834
@carlosaguirre9834 2 ай бұрын
Very good comment. And I think this applies to my team's announcer, John Schriffen. He also seems too caught up in trying to be a broadcaster who stands out that it comes out all wrong. I feel like Cavnar has a better chance of working it out, though. Shriffen is too confrontational and stubborn, on top of not understanding the actual game.
@brisket5588
@brisket5588 2 ай бұрын
Spot on. It’s why I move Phillies broadcasting booth. All of those guys just sound like your local fan at a sports bar talking about the game. It’s fun and they get just as excited as you when stuff on field happens. Along with getting just as frustrated with players and umps when they’re struggling. It makes the game 1000x more enjoyable and fun to watch
@chrislee1195
@chrislee1195 Ай бұрын
This actually feels like a very accurate description for her. Maybe being the only woman doing this is also making her feel like she has to stand out in any way she can. Just leading to all around awkwardness. I remember not being a fan of her commentating while watching the a's play my twins
@kayakerdude3727
@kayakerdude3727 Ай бұрын
Nailed it. Perfect explanation of what is wrong with her and what she's trying to do - Just so forced and doesn't sound even close to how a person who is well versed in and loves baseball talks or acts.
@flyinghawaiian007
@flyinghawaiian007 2 ай бұрын
8:00 "Someone with 0 connection to this team growing up, she probably wasn't that invested". The A's aren't even that invested in the A's these days...
@marcus813
@marcus813 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry so much about any childhood-era connections. Dewayne Staats has been the only full-time TV play-by-play announcer my Rays have ever known and he didn't have connection to any Tampa Bay sports franchise that I know of prior to that. I think it's more about being a good announcer than any childhood connections and Cavnar has plenty of room for improvement.
@Salsuero
@Salsuero Ай бұрын
...or ever.
@Sunny31310
@Sunny31310 2 ай бұрын
I think this is just the A's doing a shitty job per usual, I'm sure there are a bunch of capable women out there.
@TheSolidSnakeOil
@TheSolidSnakeOil 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Whenever they make a move, in anything, it's always half-assed.
@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
And she could be one too, given some time I think
@jace_albers
@jace_albers 2 ай бұрын
​@madethecut No she doesn't care about baseball there is no way to overcome that
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 2 ай бұрын
@@jace_albersdid she tell you that? 😂
@jace_albers
@jace_albers 2 ай бұрын
@@poindextertunes I've heard her yawn on a rundown double play
@markchalled3976
@markchalled3976 2 ай бұрын
She sounds like she is a beat behind the action and trying to catch up with something catchy. Joe Buck is still the worst.
@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m no Joe Buck fan myself
@_mokaleek_
@_mokaleek_ 2 ай бұрын
I think that's the best summation of her announcing, especially with her homerun calls.
@Kdizzzzz9999
@Kdizzzzz9999 2 ай бұрын
I feel like I’m the only one who likes buck
@mondoseguendo6113
@mondoseguendo6113 2 ай бұрын
Michael Key is pretty awful too.
@catlove64
@catlove64 2 ай бұрын
Yo, Joe Buck is a king what r u saying
@jritechnology
@jritechnology 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, Joe Morgan was getting a bit too long in the tooth at the end. You could see the lights going out....but his love of the game was what he had to keep him going. Dude would have died 10 years earlier if he didn't have that job.
@Hiiizenburg42
@Hiiizenburg42 2 ай бұрын
Perfect comment. 💯
@Dominos-el7qr
@Dominos-el7qr 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, on the whole Morgan was really good, much better than the insufferable McCarver.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 2 ай бұрын
​@@Dominos-el7qryes. Him and Joe Buck were insufferable.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 2 ай бұрын
his commentary aside, the guys actual voice was perfect for broadcasting imo
@Salsuero
@Salsuero Ай бұрын
This is how I feel about Vin Scully. At the end of his career, he was making obvious mistakes that we all just shrugged off because he was so beloved and still plenty capable. But he would ramble a little sometimes and get names of players wrong and you just kinda knew he was to a point where his age might be pulling him down. Sometimes it's better to leave on top, but that's hard for people who don't know when they're cresting the peak and starting down the other side. No one wanted Vin out. But father time was calling and life is certainly not fair that way.
@shermanngjazz
@shermanngjazz 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if the A's hired her on purpose just to make the fans stop tuning in the games on TV.
@RedRaiderLobo20
@RedRaiderLobo20 2 ай бұрын
🤯
@Salsuero
@Salsuero Ай бұрын
They would imply some kind of working strategy. The A's do not believe in such things. They more likely thought she'd be a "first in baseball" for them and that it might inspire more people to be into A's baseball... while, true to form, screwing it up in the process.
@OhOneNine
@OhOneNine 2 ай бұрын
As an A's fan, it's unbearable. I listen to the away broadcasts.
@naturallawman2965
@naturallawman2965 2 ай бұрын
I listen to Chris Caray on the radio
@paulthomson2466
@paulthomson2466 2 ай бұрын
Of all MLB broadcasters, the best was Bob Uecker, he was the best at muting the mic at the critical point on mic: "The pitcher throws a heater and its strike 3! You're outta there!" Mutes mic "Look at the boobs on that babe! Holy Cowabonga!" On mic: "And here comes the manger, looks like this pitchers night is done!"
@nunzi83
@nunzi83 2 ай бұрын
Cool story….. Artie Lange told this one better
@Nonsensicl
@Nonsensicl 2 ай бұрын
Or…. Vin Scully
@VisibilityFoggy
@VisibilityFoggy 2 ай бұрын
Ahh, yup the Artie and Norm MacDonald story from spring training. Uecker got mad at Artie for telling it on the radio, but forgot Artie's name by the time he found out lol.
@DodgerProdzz
@DodgerProdzz 2 ай бұрын
Vin Scully
@lakoncers13
@lakoncers13 Ай бұрын
I’m a pretty big fan of John Miller, but that’s probably because I’m a Giants fan
@rpn1717
@rpn1717 2 ай бұрын
I’m blessed as a Mets fan with a fantastic broadcast team. Gary Cohen is the gold standard.
@robertobradford3968
@robertobradford3968 2 ай бұрын
Is he that annoying guy with the stupid "See! You! Later!" shtick when someone hits a homerun?
@Zyron22
@Zyron22 2 ай бұрын
That's the nationals broadcaster, I do say that the Mets broadcaster is kinda annoying.
@semicharmedlife311
@semicharmedlife311 2 ай бұрын
Gary Cohen is one of the best in the business. #fact
@JG54206
@JG54206 2 ай бұрын
I’m a Yankees fan but Cohen and Darling are an excellent broadcast team. I always like to hear their commentary during Mets highlights.
@semicharmedlife311
@semicharmedlife311 2 ай бұрын
@@JG54206 Appreciate that. We are blessed to have them. 👍
@ImTheDudeMan471
@ImTheDudeMan471 2 ай бұрын
I have tried to listen to other broadcasters but, the team of Don Orsillo and Mark Grant for the Padres colors the game "vivid" for me. Passion, emotion, color, strategy, instruction, some goofiness, humbleness, charm. The closest I can describe it is the movie "Big". Adult professional men having passionate fun doing their jobs. It's like having 75 years of MLB experience and seen through a 13 year old boy playing Little League.
@dixonlee8086
@dixonlee8086 2 ай бұрын
Orsillo was partnered with the late, great Jerry Remy on Red Sox broadcasts for many years and that duo was fantastic as well
@fastpitchwhiz
@fastpitchwhiz 2 ай бұрын
Great summation of what it's like with Don Orsillo and Mark Grant calling Padres games. These 2 are the best in broadcasting and a joy to listen to!
@OttoErotic69
@OttoErotic69 2 ай бұрын
As a lifelong Red Sox fan I definitely miss Orsillo
@farmerlarbear2244
@farmerlarbear2244 Ай бұрын
I’d have to agree. Even though I’m a Dodger fan. Joe and Orel great too. But even after 8 yrs, the Dodgers games just don’t quite sound right w/o the greatest to ever do it behind the mic. RIP VIN. Sure wish he got to see Shohei in Dodger Blue.
@27Riverdale
@27Riverdale 2 ай бұрын
Jessica Mendoza does color commentary on some Dodgers games and she’s not bad. Calling play by play is another level though and takes a lot of charisma
@cs1458
@cs1458 2 ай бұрын
Is she maybe just distracted thinking that a bird might fly out of her coworker's beard?
@Salsuero
@Salsuero Ай бұрын
Her coworker? At least her coworker has an investment in the team seeing as he's a former ace pitcher for them. She's distracted by the thought of having to do play-by-play and sucking at it -- for a team that no one likes -- and trying too hard to get fired, but she's so bad at baseball, she doesn't even know the A's usually only get rid of actual talent. She fits right in!
@dooshkid
@dooshkid 2 ай бұрын
Cheryl Pounder is an example of a phenomenal woman's announcer for a sport, she actually understands the sport and truly loves it and it shows. She played and managed at a professional level so she knows when big moments are happening and when certain nuances that the average fan would over-look. The A's announcer is the total opposite of that.. and that's why it doesn't work. But I mean, she's the A's announcer... good luck being passionate about THAT franchise.
@jabman025
@jabman025 2 ай бұрын
Alexa Datt for the Cardinals is good, I could see her doing well as a color commentator ......... I am just going to say the A's suck at baseball..........in all aspects
@DoItLikeDat450Splat
@DoItLikeDat450Splat 2 ай бұрын
as a Rockies fan, the few games she did for us were ok, she definitely seemed more comfortable in Colorado, but lol people acting like announcer jinxs are real
@forwardthinker4139
@forwardthinker4139 2 ай бұрын
Shes boring and lacks genuine enthusiasm..... but the biggest thing is when she does show some emotion it comes off as fake and corny
@maytownbrendi
@maytownbrendi 2 ай бұрын
Having had the privilege of listening to Dave Niehaus and Rick Rizzs my entire fandom, I have to say that almost NO ONE else sounds good to me. That being said, it takes talent and you can’t throw any broadcaster in there and expect magic to come out of their mouth. Dave Sims is a great example. He 👏🏻 is 👏🏻 TERRIBLE 👏🏻 So much bias toward east coast teams, jinxes the Mariners every game, is not on top of any interesting baseball content or statistics. Aaron Goldsmith is an excellent example of a broadcaster that took a job to advance their career and turned it into GOLD. He not only exudes a love of baseball, is a student of the game, and has a perfect broadcast voice, his calls are ON POINT and so entertaining. This video has made me so grateful for (most) of Seattle’s broadcast crew. Even Gary Hill Jr is better than most other teams broadcasters
@adamspivey
@adamspivey 2 ай бұрын
Why do we feel like we have to walk on eggshells when criticizing a woman who is bad at her job?
@KeiladamsShorts
@KeiladamsShorts Ай бұрын
Because society and the media would see it as sexist
@adamspivey
@adamspivey Ай бұрын
@@KeiladamsShorts I agree. It was more of a rhetorical question.
@KeiladamsShorts
@KeiladamsShorts Ай бұрын
@@adamspivey Ik
@MyselfTheThird
@MyselfTheThird Ай бұрын
TBH there's so much bad faith banter when it comes to women existing in a public facing role already that when a woman who is genuinely not that great at her job comes around, no one wants to associate themselves with the assholes that get mad at women just for existing.
@JuiceboxDesmond
@JuiceboxDesmond Ай бұрын
She's easy pickens. Go criticize some men
@elite-lf3bv
@elite-lf3bv Ай бұрын
3:15 to skip ad
@Curly_Maple
@Curly_Maple 2 ай бұрын
Dang, stop speed reading. Inflection, enunciation, and pausing are necessary for good communication. This sounds so unnatural and grating.
@IceHockeyJedi
@IceHockeyJedi 2 ай бұрын
Then why are you here? Go watch something else.
@johnnyboy55
@johnnyboy55 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like he has a mouthful to those sunflower seeds.
@sporer_
@sporer_ 2 ай бұрын
@@IceHockeyJedi i think he likes the content and is trying to offer constructive criticism to make it even better. Maybe a little terse w/the first sentence, but the sentiment is accurate. At one point, I checked to see if I was on 1.25x speed with how fast he was going. It was a bit briskly paced.
@ryanferguson9249
@ryanferguson9249 Ай бұрын
I’ll never forget when one of the A’s players hit a home run and she asked the other announcer, “If it goes over the wall, is it a home run?”
@stevena7945
@stevena7945 Ай бұрын
That was fake dude lol
@kayakerdude3727
@kayakerdude3727 Ай бұрын
I would have said 'no! The other player can have the stadium janitor or a fan throw it back and it's still in play.'
@randylevy
@randylevy 2 ай бұрын
Wow, that was bad. If you stepped away from the screen for a minute you'd barely have any idea what was going on in the game. Maybe she should have honed her craft in the minor leagues?
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 2 ай бұрын
Suzyn Waldman (and others?) has entered chat.
@psychorabbitt
@psychorabbitt 2 ай бұрын
The Yankees deserved Suzyn.
@cs1458
@cs1458 2 ай бұрын
Waldman growing up a diehard Sox fan is the icing on that cake.
@pikapal91
@pikapal91 2 ай бұрын
“Roga Clemens is back. Of awl the dramatic things.” She’s not that great
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 2 ай бұрын
Suzyn Waldman is on radio. This deals with television play by play.
@DrAnarchy69
@DrAnarchy69 2 ай бұрын
@@psychorabbittyou’re right, she’s a fucking LEGEND
@nickgavis0305
@nickgavis0305 2 ай бұрын
Lol “anything I can do I can do better”
@BenSchmerler
@BenSchmerler 2 ай бұрын
I think most announcers make some pretty bad calls at times, and she's new, so I think people are being a little harsh. The A's situation is awful and that energy around the team has got to make the job harder. Seems like she wants to do well so I just think everyone should chill. If you are an A's fan and this is what you are upset with, you are focusing on the wrong place.
@cs1458
@cs1458 2 ай бұрын
Not a single A's fan exists to read this comment.
@buuddha77
@buuddha77 2 ай бұрын
Being new isn't an excuse, to be a MLB broadcaster she has to have experience calling games, and she does. Also, a bad team doesn't give any excuses for horrible calls. Im guessing you don't listen or watch baseball consistently, because the announcers are everything when it comes to the sport. Just look how beloved the Legends are. If I was forced to listen to that every night, I would watch on mute and refuse to listen to the radio.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 2 ай бұрын
​@@cs1458we exist. I'm one of them. And we are many. Ive talked to many A's fans in my life inthe area I live in and they're usually Bay area transplants or remember the team from the 70s. We're just long suffering thanks to fish sticks.
@BenSchmerler
@BenSchmerler 2 ай бұрын
@@buuddha77 Dude I've seen plenty of sporting events and the amount of bad calls and announcers is astronomical. Do you know how many times I had to listen to Tim McCarver and Joe Buck call a game with inane commentary? And those guys weren't just calling random A's games, but the World Series! Not every announcer is Vin Scully or Jon Miller or Gus Johnson etc. Most of these people have "broadcasting voices" or played the game and just say whatever comes to mind, and often times it's not that insightful. So yeah, I think we should cut this person a break who is literally just getting started in a bad situation.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 2 ай бұрын
@@cs1458 we exist man. Believe it or not. Been an A's fan since I was a kid. Fish sticks has deleted the fan base tho.
@jimboscooter432
@jimboscooter432 2 ай бұрын
Jeez I feel bad for A's fans, that voice is brutal
@robertobradford3968
@robertobradford3968 2 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. It's one thing for someone to correct the way they comment games. That can be corrected. It's another to have an annoying voice. That's can't be corrected. I wouldn't be a good commentator because no team would want the guy narrating the game to sound like a penis. 😒
@nativepangea
@nativepangea 2 ай бұрын
Mel Newman on Orioles radio does a great job, she has a good presentation that is informative and she is to the point. She talks balls and strikes, averages and is ready at many times with a situation relevant statistic. On TV she is given sideline reporting tasks, which I don't think many do that very well since it's a nothing-to-accomplish job.
@hatertime
@hatertime 2 ай бұрын
Hasn't Suzyn Waldman been color commentary on Yankees games for 20 years?
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 2 ай бұрын
Radio though on WFAN 660/101.9.
@szlava3641
@szlava3641 2 ай бұрын
She is the play by play person on Yankees radio
@marklesniak8038
@marklesniak8038 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I can't figure why her name is left out of it either. True, she's not play-by-play and she's on radio not TV, but sometimes she'd pick it up for Sterling and narrate for a couple of batters. You could even make the argument that radio is harder than TV since there's no visual accompaniment. Honestly, she's not terrible, she's just mediocre. Better than Joe Buck for godsakes!
@hatertime
@hatertime 2 ай бұрын
@@marklesniak8038 Joe Buck is far and away the worst sports broadcaster. Suzyn Waldman is not my favorite on the radio either but she's been a mainstay for a long time
@Salsuero
@Salsuero Ай бұрын
Color commentary is the difference. Play-by-play is a different beast. Color can be literally any entertaining banter that gets you from pitch to pitch. There's a lot less stress on just being naturally yourself -- if you're natural self is someone mildly entertaining for one reason or another. Play-by-play is about the game itself and very specifically so. You don't even need to know baseball all that well to be a color commentator. You can pick things up along the way, but your job is just to fill the space between pitches and to not be boring while doing so. They often have interviews of players, celebrities, even bring guests in to fill that role. But the play-by-play is always done by someone with a certain set of skills, and a true love for and understanding of the game. Some people are so talented at both things (cue Vin Scully) that they can call the entire game alone. But not all play-by-play announcers are able to be color commentators or vice versa.
@christopher19894
@christopher19894 2 ай бұрын
"Touch 'em all Joe." --Tom Cheeks. Best call of the best moment for any Jays fan.
@kayakerdude3727
@kayakerdude3727 Ай бұрын
RIP Tom Cheek - Jays fans were so spoiled by the outstanding duo of Tom & Jerry on radio, one of the best baseball teams ever assembled, and championships during those years - The best days for Jays fans were those.
@ariswerdlow1411
@ariswerdlow1411 2 ай бұрын
she set women back in brodcasting decades.
@anthonygenovese7578
@anthonygenovese7578 2 ай бұрын
She could be friends with raygun.
@Notalent1337
@Notalent1337 2 ай бұрын
Anything done purely for the purpose of representation is bound to be dogshit. Women can, and should be broadcasting games, but they need to be women who are actually better than or equal to their male counterparts, not just because they have different genitals.
@kingflumph5968
@kingflumph5968 2 ай бұрын
Isn't that a little bit unfair to say? There have been plenty of bad men broadcasters, are they setting men back in broadcasting decades? One example of a person doing a bad job should not mean anything about the whole set of people who could do that job, right?
@sporer_
@sporer_ 2 ай бұрын
oh stfu with that hyperbole, no she didn't. it's her first year ffs. such an overreactionary sports culture, it's so bizarre. she isn't amazing, i'm not suggesting she can't be critiqued, but the over-the-top pearl clutching to suggest she set women's broadcasting back is ridiculous. the first of something isn't always great. just relax
@alarrim29574
@alarrim29574 2 ай бұрын
@@kingflumph5968yeah but she’s the first. If the first of anything sucks then it usually fails or holds them back. The first movie in a franchise sucks it ends the franchise, and I hate to say it but if the first black man to play in mlb didn’t play like Jackie Robinson and played like trash then he likely would have set them back in sports for years. Its not the same as when the 50th black ball player sucks or the 50th male commentator sucks
@rodrossi9749
@rodrossi9749 2 ай бұрын
My wife absolutely despises her..... NUFF SAID !!
@jl3059
@jl3059 Ай бұрын
Same as hockey. Thats just what we needed. More girls who sound like their 12 yrs old
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 2 ай бұрын
Kristen Watson is a pleasure. I’d love to hear her in a booth.
@marcacurso7756
@marcacurso7756 2 ай бұрын
I think people like the big personality homer commentator the best. The other models just don't work term like the emotionally detached, commentators who talk about themselves all night, commentators who don't know when to be quiet, commentators have their nose in a stat book all night and the boring legacy commentators. I would take an increasingly drunk Harry Carey in a heartbeat over most of todays commentators.
@Eirik_Bloodaxe
@Eirik_Bloodaxe 2 ай бұрын
Idk as a Boston fan, all I hear is absolute disdain for big personality homer commentators from the rest of the internet.
@Zyron22
@Zyron22 2 ай бұрын
Don Orsillo is the goat 🐐
@ryanvannice7878
@ryanvannice7878 2 ай бұрын
A problem with any "first" hire is that the hire is more about the "first" than it is about the job. The problem that follows is that anyone that criticizes the job performance can easily be tagged with the "anti" tag (anti-woman, anti-black, anti-gay, whatever) even when the criticisms are objectively fair. And the "first" is protected from fair criticism and doesn't get the feedback to improve their performance. The tiptoeing and qualifiers you had to do diluted the legit comments you had about the job she was actually doing right now.
@furioussherman7265
@furioussherman7265 Ай бұрын
Calls like 5:50 are the reason why no matter how badly the Blue Jays underachieve, I will always be thankful for Dan Shulman and Buck Martinez up in the booth. I genuinely hope Cavanar is able to improve her craft and get better in the future, but for now it feels as though her substandard calls are the icing on the cake with regards to the pain that A's fans go through.
@Curbjaw
@Curbjaw 2 ай бұрын
I saw another video in my feed about her titled "the most hated announcer in baseball" Which says a lot since the announcer before her said the N word on live TV
@silentaces732
@silentaces732 2 ай бұрын
Don't make excuses, She's terrible i rather mute the TV and do my own play by play.
@JonEffinZoidberg
@JonEffinZoidberg 2 ай бұрын
She is to women in broadcasting as Danica Patrick was to helping women drivers get more positions in racing. Just the wrong person promoted for the wrong reasons.
@maybe4not
@maybe4not 2 ай бұрын
Is it so wrong to not want to hear a woman's voice for just a little bit?
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 2 ай бұрын
Her voice is simply not a pleasant one to listen to, its very grating. I realize she can't control that but still. I dont really think most people care if an announcers a woman, theres already many of them actually, its just THIS one... plus she doesn't seem to know the game well. She would be a great sideline reporter.
@matvail2002
@matvail2002 2 ай бұрын
I don't dislike Jenny Cavnar as a person, I think she really wants to do well, but she did not have a ton of experience in play-by-play before. The question is will she get better with time? Doing play-by-play is a lot about having a radio voice. Play-to-play in baseball is a really difficult job if you want to be good, there are less than 100 people in the industry who have the skills and the tempo to do it at a major league baseball level and you usually need to have experience doing it at a lower level. And it's not a man or woman thing, some women can do quite well at that job. It's just that Cavnar is the first.
@jaerockchalk3216
@jaerockchalk3216 2 ай бұрын
i think of Tom Cheek Calling Joe Carters 9th inning walk off Home Run to win the World series in 93 .
@todd4317
@todd4317 2 ай бұрын
"Touch 'em all Joe, you'll never hit a bigger home run in your life". Never a Cheek fan, usually came off as a bit of a blowhard to me. That said, this was, in my opinion the greatest call in baseball history.
@SmappleMcWingers
@SmappleMcWingers 2 ай бұрын
Ok, but now you have to do a video on how good Melanie Newman is.
@Salsuero
@Salsuero Ай бұрын
It definitely doesn't sound or "feel" authentic. I would love to enjoy a woman who genuinely has a baseball voice. She just seems to be trying to make the calls she thinks she has to... trying to inject energy because she knows she's supposed to... not because she actually has any to inject. You can tell when someone isn't personally invested. It doesn't help that she works for a dead-end team that doesn't inspire anyone. But if you're paid to do it, give it what you've got -- 100%. Based on what we hear, her 100% is just kinda meh.
@8bitpro85
@8bitpro85 Ай бұрын
11:22 that was hilarious 😂
@mm2d0wnfalling
@mm2d0wnfalling Ай бұрын
fr
@RyanMariners
@RyanMariners 2 ай бұрын
She isn't the worst of all time, but she's far from perfect. It is only her first year, though. Maybe she'll get better as time goes on. Who knows.
@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying!
@doodchappin
@doodchappin 2 ай бұрын
I'd say they should hire some trash for the Mariners and see if you change your tune, but your teams batting average is already doing that LOL
@taqiyyaconcarne6908
@taqiyyaconcarne6908 2 ай бұрын
Maybe we can treat women equally by actually treating them equally.
@jimboscooter432
@jimboscooter432 2 ай бұрын
I couldn't listen to her voice for a whole game.
@aloysiusdevadander19
@aloysiusdevadander19 2 ай бұрын
Doubt it
@chrisc765
@chrisc765 2 ай бұрын
For me Scully was by far the best. a legend. You dont realize how much you like a particular announcer until you switch cities. Im a huge rays fan but, now live in ohio.I really miss Dwayne Staats calls
@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
Scully is probably the best in my book too!
@mnplumberman
@mnplumberman 2 ай бұрын
True, Twins fan here and since Dick Bremer and Bert Blyleven retired after 30 years, I just haven't gotten used to the new guys.
@kennyg1358
@kennyg1358 Ай бұрын
Why didn't she work her way into the job by doing Minor League ball for ten plus years like most men?
@sdelmonte
@sdelmonte 2 ай бұрын
She seems pretty average, with some attempts to be livelier. She should grow into the job. And complaining about a jinx is nonsense.
@aureumursa1833
@aureumursa1833 2 ай бұрын
I'm so thankful for Kruk and Kuip in San Francisco.
@chrisnussbaumer9516
@chrisnussbaumer9516 2 ай бұрын
They hate the Dodgers and I hate the Giants but I appreciate and respect their commentary.
@robertobradford3968
@robertobradford3968 2 ай бұрын
@aureumursa1833 We're lucky to have not one, but two excellent sets of broadcasters: Miller and Fleming on the radio, and Kruk & Kuip on TV. By the way, fuck the Dodgers!
@deepzone31
@deepzone31 Ай бұрын
@@robertobradford3968 Miller is my favorite of all time. You guys are blessed.
@steveripp666
@steveripp666 2 ай бұрын
Like everything else now, it's about the boxes you ckeck, instead of your qualifications for the job.
@mnplumberman
@mnplumberman 2 ай бұрын
I don't care if it is a man or woman, but you need 3 basic things to do this job. Knowledge, the right flow, and to sound good on TV/Radio. A high voice will never sound as good as a low voice, and it throws me off. There is a reason Radio announcers had booming deep voices, and it wasn't because of discrimination. It was because that is what sounds good. You can just feel if an announcer is flowing naturally, or trying to sound like an announcer. To me, she seems like she is trying to sound like an announcer on these calls.
@wizard1687
@wizard1687 2 ай бұрын
And that is a reality that will get swept aside all for the sake of an agenda. I grew up in the 80s, so lower, particularly gravelly voices ruled the radio waves. You can mute television, but not the radio
@marcus813
@marcus813 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Rays fan and I miss Jenny Cavnar's comments about Jose Siri. I don't know what she was thinking about there.
@Rastafarianinja
@Rastafarianinja 2 ай бұрын
Wait, you mean to tell me MLB fans hate Joe Buck too? How did that man get a job in sports commentary?
@jamesfilisky555
@jamesfilisky555 2 ай бұрын
I think his dad was also in commentary so he had an easy in
@robertobradford3968
@robertobradford3968 2 ай бұрын
He's a popular guy. He's hated by 2 fan bases.
@deepzone31
@deepzone31 Ай бұрын
Nepobaby.
@brighamsunday2768
@brighamsunday2768 2 ай бұрын
Huge A's fan here. I watch all the games and have enjoyed her performance. She is not my favorite, I prefer the Braden/Caray option, but I think she has done fine.
@brighamsunday2768
@brighamsunday2768 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand the hate
@brighamsunday2768
@brighamsunday2768 2 ай бұрын
I know some will not want to hear this. But I do feel there are some elements of misogyny associated with the negative feedback. It just feels that way.
@bingobongo8701
@bingobongo8701 2 ай бұрын
​@brighamsunday2768 not really, sure some don't like women bit 99.99 percent of the people that don't like her is because she sucks, bringing up sexism is a little childish
@ThumbFollowMe
@ThumbFollowMe 2 ай бұрын
@@bingobongo8701 I would say that saying she sucks is childish. What does that even mean? She knows her stuff, she does her homework. You have to have more than just, she 'sucks' to claim she is inept at her job.
@brighamsunday2768
@brighamsunday2768 2 ай бұрын
@@bingobongo8701 Yeah, not buying it. Saying she sucks sounds like a cop out and seems much more childish than claiming sexism. Why does she suck? What evidence do you have for that. She knows her content, she has stats, she does a great job. I am listening to her right now - she has got talent. I would still put my eggs in the sexism basket for all of the haters.
@_not_sure_
@_not_sure_ 2 ай бұрын
it's not the MLB's experiment. it's the A's experiment.
@androidrulez444
@androidrulez444 2 ай бұрын
When you hire for diversity, you can't fire for incompetence
@davidthecardcollector
@davidthecardcollector Ай бұрын
Lol, dam she was awful, it's like having a random fan call the game.
@sociosanch3748
@sociosanch3748 13 күн бұрын
"Hey Siri, it's not your night" As a Rays fan, that was one of the high points of the season.
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Ай бұрын
Her broadcasts are terrible. She should have acclimated in the minors or college ball before jumping right into the majors.
@menta1case182
@menta1case182 2 ай бұрын
Those calls you used as examples in the beginning were not good. She doesnt give details of whos head the ball went over, her cheeky sayings and her tone are just not good. Those things can be improved upon if she gives it more effort. But no one is immediately excellent at something new so I would say give her some time. Maybe she can get it together.
@madethecut
@madethecut 2 ай бұрын
Most definitely can improve!
@charlesgriffiths750
@charlesgriffiths750 2 ай бұрын
But how does she make her voice interesting to listen to?
@raiderfanforever999
@raiderfanforever999 Ай бұрын
Hostile fanbase?!?! The A’s community is NOT hostile. We are passionate and loyal.
@williamcoolidge9884
@williamcoolidge9884 Ай бұрын
Not for long...
@johnmanning7620
@johnmanning7620 2 ай бұрын
Gary, Keith, Ron. Goats
@Mbarnstein62891
@Mbarnstein62891 2 ай бұрын
She should learn from Melanie Newman.
@joelglanton6531
@joelglanton6531 2 ай бұрын
Suzyn Waldman on WFAN Yankees radio is the only good female broadcaster and I don't see that changing any time soon.
@MrGgffggffggff
@MrGgffggffggff 2 ай бұрын
Greg Brown and Bob Walk are legendary in Pittsburgh
@patrickkanas3874
@patrickkanas3874 2 ай бұрын
Is she reading a script? That's what it sounds like
@ChopperFlip
@ChopperFlip Ай бұрын
We all hate nails on a chalk board as a voice either female or male.
@freedomfromreligion1701
@freedomfromreligion1701 Ай бұрын
Front office hates fans
@matthewandress1229
@matthewandress1229 2 ай бұрын
To me this lady always sounds like Dee on It’s Always Sunny. She isn’t great to listen to, but she thinks she is and tried to find ways to make us listen to more of her. I remember a game where she struggled to come up with a way to call a homer and referred to the home run as “a four base hit.” I’m not allowed to suck this bad at my job…
@sparkyfister
@sparkyfister 2 ай бұрын
Representation isn't necessary
@shpfro
@shpfro 2 ай бұрын
Never heard her call a game but she can only get better. The Phillies have stuck with Tom McCarthy and he's never been ok. Good luck, girl!
@TheOrganFlame
@TheOrganFlame 2 ай бұрын
That awkward moment when it's "sexist" to criticize Jenny Cavnar but not sexist when you completely void your bowels all over Joe Buck.
@JackieDaytona1776
@JackieDaytona1776 2 ай бұрын
I have no connection to the A's and would do better. I was shocked to hear her background, it doesnt sound like she understands the sport at all
@Chris-s6y5e
@Chris-s6y5e 2 ай бұрын
She makes Suzy Waldman sound like Ernie Harwell.
@briankeller2733
@briankeller2733 2 ай бұрын
What it sounds like is when a lower market team gets a national game and it’s clear the announcers haven’t paid much attention to them throughout the year. Rooker is having a fantastic season but she sounded surprised everytime he went deep in this video
@sporer_
@sporer_ 2 ай бұрын
Melanie Newman with Baltimore is fantastic!
@sdt01o1
@sdt01o1 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure she'll get better... Jerry Remy wasn't very good when he started out, albeit as an analyst as opposed to the play-by-play announcer, but he be found his voice and became a widely loved fixture in the broadcast booth. I'm sure you're right that A's ownership cheaped out on their broadcaster hire and now Cavnar is unfortunately bearing the brunt of the trolls.
@JosephDalton-xc1iw
@JosephDalton-xc1iw 2 ай бұрын
I miss Jerry
@BuccaneerBruce
@BuccaneerBruce 2 ай бұрын
I listened to her when the A's played the A's. It was such a stark difference between her and Ryan Lefebvre and Jake Eisenberg. I do wonder if the A's being such crap and the energy around the team and her being a rookie make it that much worse.
@tboneoutdoors688
@tboneoutdoors688 Ай бұрын
In Colorado she did player interviews and other things like that. She was liked, so when she did play by play here, people were kind and didn’t bash her too much even though she was terrible. She has already established herself as a likable personality in Colorado. Go to the A’s where she is unknown, people are judging her on her play by play skills, and it’s pretty bad.
@Underpantsniper
@Underpantsniper 2 ай бұрын
Doris Burke is a good commentator and sports analyst for the NBA.
@NickMachado
@NickMachado 2 ай бұрын
You can't be serious. Doris sounds like she's never blown her nose before.
@Azaism
@Azaism Ай бұрын
Did we forget Gayle Gardner and Suzyn Waldman did TV play-by-play in the 90s?
@AlwaysPutnWork
@AlwaysPutnWork 2 ай бұрын
This was a tough topic but you handled it well 📈
@lynnerose7891
@lynnerose7891 22 күн бұрын
I hear ppl saying this same stuff about Bob Costas. Ppl pretending that it’s “sexist” to criticize her when these examples exist are crazy. There aren’t examples like this for Costas and he barely announced baseball anymore.
@EricaBrazzell
@EricaBrazzell Ай бұрын
she’s not an “experiment” she’s done on camera work since 2009 she’s earned the job and more and this title is incredibly disrespectful to her and her work
@MartinMaxiepada
@MartinMaxiepada Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 shush
@williamcoolidge9884
@williamcoolidge9884 Ай бұрын
If she has experience why does she suck so bad?
@michaelraphael2160
@michaelraphael2160 2 ай бұрын
The problem women will always have with play by play is that if they don't get excited enough during a big play, they will get called out for not being into it. If they get too excited, they sound like a hysterical banshee. Men instinctively think something is wrong when women raise their voice.
@Roysorb
@Roysorb 2 ай бұрын
Growing up with Skip Caray he had some great moments but he also had horrible, hungover days. People didn't scrutinize him outside of jokes. People gotta learn their job.
@DutchVanDerLinde-sx1ox
@DutchVanDerLinde-sx1ox Ай бұрын
In sports in general, but especially in baseball, it seems like there's pressure for broadcasters to have a "signature phrase" and causes them to do these cheesy lines that they try to force importance on.
@emeraldaly7646
@emeraldaly7646 2 ай бұрын
I used to watch Rockies games a lot, and I thought she was great as the "sideline reporter" for them.
@tater_tot_yt
@tater_tot_yt 2 ай бұрын
Melanie Newman
@mistermaykul
@mistermaykul Ай бұрын
1:27 Joe Buck is not a color commentator he’s play-by-play
@jibathus
@jibathus 2 ай бұрын
I think if she was born and bred A's fan she'd probably be more passionate, so maybe if she ever got the rockies job it'd be better. As for the fact she's a woman, means nothing, but whoever the woman Apple TV had last season (if its the same woman my opinion is so skewed) and I don't know if she's still there this year is awful. That woman talks like she's never seen baseball before. Extra note: as a Brewers fan I feel a bit spoiled, Uecker and the TV team (BA, Rock etc.) are all great. However, when you hit the post season..... Wow. Press mute. Every game is diabolical nonsense. I'm so glad I can choose the audio on mlbtv.
@connoromalley4004
@connoromalley4004 Ай бұрын
"Sweet sassy molassy take out your checkbook and pay grandma for the rub down." -Jenny Cavnar probably
@Mo_Ketchups
@Mo_Ketchups 2 ай бұрын
I’m a longtime fan of your channel, such as it is. But this was so … wishy-washy, I came out more concerned about your stream of alternating takes on her than her as a topic here. 😵‍💫 It’s like 12 mins of contradicting every blast on her w a devil’s advocate excuse for each. “Have a take, don’t suck.” 👀🤷‍♂️✌️
@TonysMusic1974
@TonysMusic1974 2 ай бұрын
Suzun Waldman has been calling Yankees games full time for dedcades
@williamcoolidge9884
@williamcoolidge9884 Ай бұрын
And she sucks too.
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