The NEW Garmin Edge 540 & 840 || What You Need To Know!

Today Garmin is announcing the long awaited Edge 540 and 840 cycling computers. It’s been 4 years since they’ve updated their most popular series of bike computers and in this video we'll go over everything you need to know.
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[@ArchHokie06]

My Edge 820 lasted precisely 1 hour 51 minutes of my 2:30 half hour long ride on Saturday before it went to emergency battery saver mode. I've been anxiously waiting for this day for over a year 🤣🤣

[@mlegrand]

Awesome! I'm super glad you don't have to wait any longer. There's a discount code in the description of this video if you want to try it. Keep me posted on what you think Mark!

[@fitgearhunter]

Dude! I'm so happy you got them pre-release!

[@mlegrand]

Well . . . sort of . . . 🤔

[@peterjonmueller2637]

Dope video! I watched DC rainmaker, GP lama, and Spirtive Cyclist vids before yours, but I appreciated your matter of fact vibes and definitely feel your style makes it worthwhile to watch your vids . Thanks!

[@mlegrand]

Wow, that’s some good company right there. Thank you for watching and the kind words Peter!!!

[@The_Minuteman_Project]

Incredibly helpful information. Thanks Matt.

[@mlegrand]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@pavan20100611]

You need to make more” Unboxing Videos”. The Apple Watch Ultra and now this Edge- They are sick. Amazing video as always :)

[@mlegrand]

Maybe I can make something like that into a short. Those seem super popular. Thanks Pavan!!!

[@PacificNorthWestsBestEvents]

Great video. I tried to hold off getting a 530 as long as possible. My in-laws got me one for Christmas. I’ve been loving it. Not sure I need touch screen or solar for the type of riding I do.

[@mlegrand]

Good call. Glad you have a good cycling computer currently. There will always be a need later in the future but hopefully the 530 works for a while. Thanks PNWBestEvents!

[@georgesoto5436]

I know this review was a year ago, but it’s a great video/review of these devices that I’m about to purchase. I’m most likely going to get the 540 since I’m just started to get into cycling. I’m like that dude from the UK, I’m in PNW, so not getting the solar. Thanks for providing this detailed product review!

[@mlegrand]

I probably say this in the video but I think the 840 is a better option because the operating system seems designed around touch but either way, you're going to love either of these devices. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@anigorr23]

Thanks for the discount code! Just bought a regular 540 🙃

[@mlegrand]

Hope you enjoy it! Drop back by and let me know what you think once you've had it a bit. 👌

[@adammillsindustries.]

I ordered the 1040 but after Ray said the 840 is the sweet spot I changed my order. 840 is awesome and I like the choice of buttons or touch screen. The 1040 is nice but the size is just a bit too big for a race bike. It’s been a tough choice as the 1040 kept coming on sale for close to the 840 at times. We don’t want solar in the UK. Peace!!! 😊

[@mlegrand]

We have similar weather issues here in the PNW of the United States. 840 is a great option. 1040 might be good for those that want the larger text on the larger screen. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@gainknowledgeandinsight]

Yeah I went with the 840 after watching many videos. I was tempted to get the 1040, due to larger screen for me to use Trailforks - but the more I thought about it on my mountain bike it just seemed too big and I was afraid to get it snagged on something. I haven’t used it yet but I’m sure I’ll love it. 😍

[@BlueLineRider]

Thanks for this upload, I am buying one. My 520 still works but the new feat. Seems worth it!

[@mlegrand]

Hope you enjoy it! You'll have to let me know what you think after a few rides. There's a discount code in the video description if that helps. 👍🏻

[@ryneanderson8470]

Thank you for this great review! I like the idea of the 840 having touchscreen and the buttons. Do the buttons on the new 840 have the same poor feedback as the 530? Sometimes you can't even tell if you've hit the buttons on the 530, especially when wearing gloves. I like how you get a clear click and feel on Wahoo computers when you hit their buttons. Thanks!

[@mlegrand]

The buttons feel better on the 540/840 to me. Maybe even better than the Wahoo side buttons? It's hard to judge the clicky-ness.

[@ryneanderson8470]

@@mlegrand This is helpful. Thank you for the reply! I appreciate the time and attention to detail you put into your reviews.

[@samuraioodon]

Slow is the way to go. Are the connect iq features for free? Like the wind direction or the stamina potential?

[@mlegrand]

Most items are free or free with options to pay.

[@timk.3746]

Thanks Matt for a great review! I would love to know more about a comparison of the top end computers (edge 840, wahoo, hammerhead). Personally, I think 500 euro's for the edge 840 is quite much, but I would love to hear your opinion on this, also compared to Garmins main competitors.

[@mlegrand]

Great suggestion! I'll start working on something like that. It'll be a good while before I have it done. Probably 2-3 months of testing needed. But as the weather turns, I should be able to get lots of riding in. I agree with you (and I think I mentioned it in this video) Garmin's mid -tier is now significantly more expensive than the high-end devices from other companies. 🤷‍♂️

[@charlesmansplaining]

@@mlegrand The IGPSport BSC300 has tons of great features and is almost a 3rd of the price. Garmin will not be my next computer when I replace my 830.

[@mlegrand]

@@charlesmansplaining - Looks interesting but I need something that has cycling radar capabilities.

[@bonn1771]

Love this and climb pro update without being a route planned

[@bonn1771]

Oh I am still looking at 1040 solar.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, I'm not great at planning routes. I typically just start rolling and figure something out. 🤦‍♂️ But I do love the Climb Pro feature.

[@bonn1771]

@@mlegrand same depending on how I feel

[@2041096]

Comparisons to wahoo computers. Trying to decide which to buy. Thanks for all the great content

[@mlegrand]

Coming right up. I'll compare the 540 to the Bolt but a lot of the comparison points could apply to a general Wahoo vs Garmin comparison. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@edutoro11]

If I would update my bike computer right now I think I would go to the Hammerhead Karoo.... it just seems better. What do you think Matt???

[@mlegrand]

I really like the HH Karoo 2. It's a great device but I think the hardware is getting a touch old. You *might be disappointed with the battery life. I have high hopes that HH will update the hardware on this device. That'd be exciting!

[@DialedCycling]

Excellent video, Matt!! 👏👏

[@mlegrand]

Thanks!

[@troycollett8540]

I currently have a 520 and yeah the battery is going so I def go to decide on either the 540 or 840

[@struanmills5710]

I'm in a similar situation. Would you consider either a Wahoo or Hammerhead unit instead? Or are you liking the new Garmin units?

[@troycollett8540]

@@struanmills5710 yeah I like them

[@mlegrand]

Troy, keep me posted on what you end up going with and how you like it. I hate that the prices are going up but there's a discount code in the description if that helps. 🤷‍♂️

[@struanmills5710]

Thanks for the video Matt. All very useful as I'm looking to upgrade from my Garmin 520 plus as the battery doesn't last for bigger rides. Would you be able to do a comparison video to the Karoo 2? Great part of the world you live in. A few years ago now I cycled down the coast from Port Angles to San Francisco. Fantastic and would love to get back to that corner of the world again.

[@mlegrand]

We love it here. I'm just north of Portland. I'd love to do a long multi-day ride down the 101 but we'll see. There's a lot to explore out here. The next video that I have planned is the 540 vs Bolt V2. But I think the main difference you'd notice with the Karoo 2 would be battery life and size and weight. If you're considering the Karoo 2, I'd probably start wondering about Karoo 3 timeframes. I don't know anything but the Karoo 2 is getting a bit old and a multi-band GPS chip would be nice to have in here because it has better power use optimizations. Thanks Struan Mills!!!

[@Cycle_Smith]

Thanks for the great review and resources. Liked and subscribed!

[@mlegrand]

Thank you Cycle Smith! Let me know if there's anything in particular you'd like me to cover here. 👌🏻

[@robydek5747]

Ther's only one thing that i prefer different, the Form Factor ! The extra size is for the solar, the size of NON solar can even better than this. I came from 830, and now i prefer NON touch, the sweat and rain made me change my mind

[@mlegrand]

The worst is sweating down on the bike computer and having it change metrics. 🤦‍♂️

[@sccxvelo]

Just found channel. Thanks for the info and advice. Looking at a new cycling computer for CX/ mixed surface rides, roads to trails, as my cateye stealth evo gps tracking is going out. So I am looking at new cycling computer after many years. New to the live mapping computers. Agree the 840 is too much and on touchscreen can issues when wet you said in another KZbin post on the new Garmins. Went to college in the redwoods so have a little experience with rain and touchscreen plus lacking sunlight for weeks on end. Split between lezyne mega xl , wahoo bolt 2, and Garmin 540/840 as I have sensors already. Hammond has power- battery use issues. So down to 3 or 4 computers to choose from. Trying to pick the best choice.

[@mlegrand]

Hi SCCX Velo, I just posted a 540 vs Bolt v2 that might help. If you mountain bike, the 540 is probably a good option. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4HNZJSJaZ6CZ9E

[@saitoyukio]

hi I have a doubt, about stamina, can you use this feature without power meter? I did not find this information, I think the watches do not have it, nor the Garmin site has this information, it would be important, because 540 is already expensive, if you need power meter, then it is not viable to buy, I wanted to use stamina and climing pro, thanks man

[@mlegrand]

It needs to base that fatigue details on something. I think it can just use heart rate but I don’t think I’ve tested that. Many of Garmin’s new watches have the same Stamina feature. Fenix series, 955, 965 for example. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@hugoliria]

I'm super happy with my Edge 830, but after seeing the new features that the 840 offers... I don't see the need to upgrade. The battery lasts a lot and there's no need to change it yet. Great video Matt! As always!

[@mlegrand]

Good call Hugo! Hopefully that 830 last a really long time.

[@robydek5747]

I switch from 830 to 540, and the upgrade it's consistent. (GNSS, dem calibration, new UI, new climb pro, than stamina and more minor featuee)

[@BCE7454]

Awesome review. Now need to decide if I want 840 or 1040. Which would you prefer?

[@mlegrand]

I’d probably go for the 840. It’s pretty much a trade off in price and screen real estate.

[@tiagumalex]

Adding two "wishes" into the "What I wish were different" section: - First the easy and cheap to do. Reduce the size and amount of branding on the devices! We already paid the hardware, no need to also advertise the brand all the time (or pay us to do it!). This applies to Garmin and most other brands also. Running shoes brands are even worse... Most cars have less exterior logos than most running shoes! C'mon just reduce slightly the branding size, it will even get a more premium look and overall better aesthetic. - Second the not so easy to do. Having square corners in the displays, when the device itself has round corners. I understand the technical constraints and budget issues, but it's up to their design and engineering teams to find a solution for it (if needed keep the square corner but add a very small mask on top of it). Looks like inserting a square in the round shape... just because it's possible doesn't make it right.

[@mlegrand]

These are great recommendations. I used to tape over the branding on my bike computers and I still do on my camera. I don't get paid by Garmin so why should I be advertising for them. Plus anyone who's looking could figure it out really quickly. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@KyleWigginton]

Thanks for this review, it is super helpful. Subbed! My question for you what does integration look like between your Apple Watch and garmin 840? If I don’t have a garmin watch do I still get the garmin benefits or am I better off with a wahoo? Trying to understand comparisons between vendors and integration with Apple health and Apple Watch ultra. Thanks!

[@mlegrand]

Thanks so much Kyle! I think you could go with either the Wahoo or the Garmin. Neither require a watch. There are some minor cross over benefits to having both a Wahoo watch and computer or Garmin watch and computer but I wouldn't stress over it.

[@ordiple]

Thanks for the great review. Just received my 840 and noticed that the charging port cover doesn't seem to fit snugly and securely, and it opens just too easily with a very gentle flick. Is it normal for this generation with USB-C ports?

[@mlegrand]

Mine opens pretty easily but I wonder if you have one with a manufacturing defect 🤔 Mine feels secure. I’d see if you can stop by a bike shop and do a quick comparison.

[@alaaalkhatib2432]

would you recommend 840 vs 1030 plus? I was leaning more towards 840 but now the price of 1030 plus with the bundle is cheaper than 840 without bundle. what do you think

[@mlegrand]

Personally, I’d go with the 840. I *think it’ll be more likely to get software updates longer into the future. The 1030 is bigger if you’d prefer more screen real estate. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@hiddenname613]

Thanks very interesting video! Do you know if training status and acute load is also going on x30 devices? I have a forerunner 255 and I would like to blend running and cycling data in Connect

[@mlegrand]

I don't know those details. I'm very unsure as to what features will trickle down but my gut feeling is that all of these new features are going to be reserved for the new devices. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@Tomzzzzzz]

Just upgraded from a 520 to the 540 but not liking it so far. My biggest pain point (besides the hard to press buttons and non-intuitive interface) is that the 540 does not automatically power down after disconnecting from the charging cable. With my 520, once I removed it from charging it gave me a 15-second auto power off countdown and then turned itself off. With the 540 lacking this Auto Power Down feature requires me to perform an additional 3-clicks of hard to press buttons to power it down. WHY? This is so annoying. From what I've discovered online, this feature was removed starting with the 530 and users were pissed off then. Now it's carried forward to the 540. Why would Garmin not include an auto power down feature after charging? If I take a turned OFF device and plug it to charge (which it then turns on) and then its completely charged and removed from the charger, it should return to its OFF state. That is only LOGICAL. I can see how lacking this feature its possible to forget to power it down manually and then wake up the next day with a dead device that remained on all night.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, that's super frustrating. I find it odd that this 540's UI is so oddly not button friendly. It's like it was 100% designed for touch screen and then they were told at the last second to "make it kind of work for buttons" and then removed the touch screen. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@kevinsiner]

Is the red area (solar part) very noticeable as you ride?

[@mlegrand]

It's not something that's bugged me on this device. I should have shown some ride clips in here that might help with the visuals. Personally, I think I'd go with the non-solar just to save the $100. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@kithinders1086]

The units/cassettes look was really pleasing! I haven't bought a head unit for a long time, but I swear the 1030 cost $550 MSRP when I bought it. Now the smaller 840 costs that??? Wooooof. This sport is getting more expensive! Do people ever tease you for having three or four computers mounted at one time? MORE DRONE MORE DRONE STUFF!!! The graphics on the measuring part is absolutely killer. The size comparison is a nice touch. Great work improving it. IS "CHAPTER TWO" a Jurassic Park font!??? That's incredible. The Cycling Ability bit... I saw what you edited in there "You suck as a cyclist." Made me laugh! Do you think it is a noticeable difference in production costs to make a device with no buttons versus buttons? DC showed the solar is a little big of a gimmick. I support your recommendations! Oooooooooooooooooooooooohhh, wireless charging! Oh my gosh, yes on replacing batteries. That would be incredible! Half I reason I never use my head unit is because I'm saving it! I know, that's a stupid explanation, but I stay by it! The out front mounts look sooooooooooooo coool. So I'm not alone on price shock! These are all great ponits, the Hammerhead 2 looks much more attainable now. Most interesting!

[@mlegrand]

I love putting a cassette in these shots. I've done it before and it'll be in my next video which is 540 vs Bolt V2. I was going for a retro feel with those chapters. I'll try something different next time. 👍

[@whaleshark2625]

I feel like this is a real miss from Garmin. As a Fenix 7 user, why should I upgrade my head unit?

[@saucydolla]

You using the fenix as a bike gps? Or do you have a 530 or something similar?

[@whaleshark2625]

@@saucydolla I have the Fenix and then also a 1030, but don't actually need to record activities on the 1030 as I'm always wearing the Fenix.

[@mlegrand]

I prefer to have a screen out front on the bike. But for you, having the 1030 out front and the Fenix 7 showing a lot of these metrics is a pretty complete system. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@xenonsens]

I have an Epix 2 (same software as Fenix 7), so I could eg buy a 530 (for half the price of 540) and use it with a chest strap during workout, and then sync with Garmin Connect and see all the advanced metrics like Training Status 2.0 in the Epix? That would be awesome.

[@rinky_dinky]

HELLO i am a mountain biker, who have ridden for so long perfectly fine without one ... what could owning one of these help me ?

[@mlegrand]

Mapping of trails. Keeping track of distance, speed and time. Garmin Connect would also provide a lot of recovery metrics. 🤷‍♂️

[@rinky_dinky]

@@mlegrand thanks 👍🏻

[@YellowFlashTheHokage]

Can you transfer data from a edge 530 model to a edge 540?

[@mlegrand]

I think most people will have everything living on the Garmin Connect app and website. But you could take all of the .fit files and drop them into the folder structure of the 540 and you'd have the history of all of your 530 rides on the 540.

[@vidkulovec1519]

hi, thanks for great videos... I have a question: Can you have ClimbPro without planing a route on explorer 2, just like on 540/840? I am in between buying Explorer 2 and 840 - 240 € vs 460 € it is a big price gap... thanks for help.

[@mlegrand]

That's a great question and I don't know the answer. I don't actually have an Explorer 2 to test. I know that the Climb Pro update is coming to the 1040 but I haven't heard about the Explorer 2. I would think they'd be able to do it. It's a very similar base UI. 🤞🏻

[@vidkulovec1519]

@@mlegrand thanks for answer.

[@IggyNelix]

😂😂 Did anybody else catch the "Cycling Ability" at 9:37? 🥺

[@mlegrand]

Why does Garmin have to go and call me slow like this?

[@tl924]

The prices are insane.

[@mlegrand]

And they sell a 1040 solar edition also 😬

[@King-pi2zx]

To have such big bezels in 2023 is actually ridiculous 😂

[@mlegrand]

That's actually a really good point. I should have mentioned that in my 'what I wish were different'

[@kieranocallaghan1164]

I would agree. Garmin are making big profits on these units as screen and body are so basic

[@galenkehler]

The bezel is where the bulk of the solar charging is. The usable screen part only contributes a small fraction of the solar charging.

[@mlegrand]

@@galenkehler - There’s still a large bezel around the higher capacity photovoltaic solar trim. It’d also be interesting if the non- solar options were slimmer. I’m sure it’d up the manufacturing cost but I’d be curious to see if people would prefer the look. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@galenkehler]

@@mlegrand I personally don't have a problem with bezels. The border obviously helps with visibility, especially when the ground is bright, and its not obstructing your view of anything relevant when you're riding.

[@Kzuke]

I'd be interested in a comparison of the 840 vs. the 1040. I'm in the market for one of these touchscreen computers with amazing battery life to replace my 520+ that runs out after 4 hours nowadays...

[@mlegrand]

The 840 and 1040 are very similar. I think it comes down to if you want that extra screen real estate. Thanks Zuke!

[@gasolinewine801]

The gram weenies that need to lose 30lbs will be put-off by the solar options.

[@mlegrand]

But I don’t want to skip dessert 🍨. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@rg31404]

Those look like they were designed 10 years ago.

[@mlegrand]

Ha! 😂 - I wouldn't mind seeing a slimmer bezel here. 🤷‍♂️

[@JFomo]

Terrible font in this video. I could barely read which was the 540 and 840. Get some studio lighting of you're going to keepnusing that silly font moving forward.

[@mlegrand]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@MD-tr1yv]

Ugly. Love garmin watches but wahoo has much better looking bike computers

[@mlegrand]

It'd be nice to see Garmin slim up that bezel a bit. 😬 Thanks MD!

[@NoName-nk8sc]

You are a hardworking and creative person. You have detailed everything, even the measurements and the smallest details. This indicates your creativity and the strength of the content you provide. You deserve support. Continue. We love you from the Emirates.❤

[@mlegrand]

Thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement!!!

[@sidspears3117]

wahoo screen is much better))and all this laggy garmin whistles didn't cost that much)

[@mlegrand]

Good feedback. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@PatisserieRoyale]

Great review Matt! It would be great to compare karoo2 vs garmin 840 in term of size, feature etc...

[@mlegrand]

Maybe 840 vs Roam vs HH Karoo 2? I’ve also been wondering if/when there’d be a Karoo 3. 🤔

[@donromildai]

Importing routes from Ridewithgps still the same where you need to copy route and manually add to the Garmin new files folder?

[@mlegrand]

You can still do it that way if you prefer to but you can also have RWGPS automatically synced with Garmin Connect and then select a course from the Garmin connect app to send to the device. Here are some details: support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=NaHPJietLh1JONP2sz5DdA

[@ivanporada8634]

Hey Matt great review. One question though-is it possible to get navigation to a places on edge 540 without entering the adress by using the "around me" feature. You know just like on Forerunner. Just scroll to suggested place enter and Edge will navigate? Thanks

[@mlegrand]

Yes, that's an option right on the device. You could search and navigate towards something. Thanks for checking this one out Ivan!

[@sgtted7580]

I live in the Uk, so no point in getting the solar version at all. The no solar is the way to go.

[@mlegrand]

There are low power devices like the Garmin Instinct 2 that I recommend solar. But I think in this case, it's probably a skip for me.

[@lhzsdgsfbvv]

Endurance specialist. . Which is just garmin calling me slow 😂 Be proud on your endurance qualities dude!

[@mlegrand]

😆 - It doesn’t stress me out too much.

[@NerdTouchingGrass]

i wish they would not charge $100 for there pretty basic charging mount which seems kind of insane to me...

[@mlegrand]

Yikes! Yeah, I’d love to see a push to make these things a bit more affordable. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@JeffreyLieberman-cs5bm]

I would like to see a comparison between the 840 and the roam v2 and know which would be better for you and why.

[@mlegrand]

I have a 540 and Bolt V2 coming up on Monday. A lot of the points will be valid for an 840 vs Roam comparison. But I really like the idea of making that comparison video also. 👌 Thanks Jeff!!!

[@kimwarner6050]

Yes the price seems high. I bought a bolt v1 for 150, to try it out. I love the buttons on the top. I'll probably buy the regular 840. At least I'll get some money back from REI. Please do a comparison with the bolt v2 vs 540.

[@mlegrand]

Sounds good Kim. I'm on it (bolt v2 vs 540). I think you'll like the 840 if you end up picking one up. Keep me posted on what you end up doing and how you like it. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@troycollett8540]

Yeah but that is the bundle I think

[@RealMTBAddict]

Been using a re-certified 530 for almost a year after another 530 for 2 years before that. Been waiting for the 540 to come out, and the USB-C is nice! And the multi GPS band is awesome too! I think the solar is a gimmick though.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, I think I could live without solar. Keep me posted on what you think of the 540 or 840 if you ended up with one.

[@RealMTBAddict]

@@mlegrand For sure. I have the Instinct 2 Solar, and that provides 10% charge daily while I work outside. 26 hours with the 540 will be sufficient. Since a lot of my trails are in trees the sun wouldn't provide much power anyway.

[@Tygr04]

Great video review, you helped me decide whether to buy the 840 solar version or the standard... I agree with you, I will buy the standard version👍😊

[@mlegrand]

Good call. 👍 Keep me posted on what you think of it once you’ve had it for a little bit.

[@endo52]

I switched to Wahoo Bolt because the alert from my Varia Radar was too low to hear on my Garmin Edge. Has this improved with the newer models? Anybody know

[@mlegrand]

I haven't noticed a louder speaker but I also don't have any specs on it. I should have some footage of cars passing from behind and the radar going off. My next video is the 540 vs the Bolt V2. I'll try to make sure there's a clip with audio from the two in that video. Thanks Endo52!

[@endo52]

@@mlegrand Thank you look forward to the comparison

[@mlegrand]

@@endo52 - As I'm working on this next video, yes the Wahoo is still much much louder than then Garmin. 😬

[@asenchristov245]

Unfortunately, the strava live segments are almost useless if you want to keep your rides private. What I mean is that you cannot race your own PRs. After contacting Garmin they sad that not being able to access your PR on your device that actually recorded it is a feature, not a bug. 😞

[@mlegrand]

Hmm, that's an odd response. Something sounds a bit off with that. Maybe a slight mix up in communication. 🤔

[@asenchristov245]

​@@mlegrand No, no miscommunication. Let me quote Garmin support email: "Unfortunately it is by design that private activities do not show up in the segments". And when I asked for this to be fixed: "Unfortunately after talking with engineering this is by design and unlikely to be changed anytime soon." You can try it yourself, as result of making an activity private (or shared only with your friends) you will not be able to access your PR on your device that actually recorded it.

[@shirtlessGraveler305]

Yes, please do a comparison between the wahoo bolt and the Garmin 540.

[@mlegrand]

I’m already working on it. 👌 Thank you!!!

[@seanvk]

Happy with my Karoo 2. I’ve avoided Garmin bike computers for a while due to not liking the UI and issues with sw bugs and the touch screen. Informative review, thanks!

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, I love the Karoo 2. Not that it's without issues. But they were doing ClimbPro without downloaded routes about a year ago. 👌🏻

[@trannel73]

Also in love with the Karoo II. But I really enjoy the Training status feature on my Fenix (as a runner). Currently riding with my Karoo + Fenix, which is kind of annoying. But I really appreciate the training suggestions and when doing 150k on the road bike, and getting a hint "hey. Please do some training" on the Fenix the day later is kind of bugging me xD

[@mattwild1847]

So now that Garmin have just released these new models how long before they stop sending updates for the 30 range, I'm looking at a new gps unit to upgrade my old Bolt v1 and like the battery life of the 530 plus its £60 cheaper than the v2 Bolt but do they stop updates etc after newer models are released??

[@mlegrand]

That's a good question for Garmin. My guess would be that you'll still get basic bug corrections for a while but I wouldn't expect features to migrate down to the older devices. But that's just a guess. Keep me posted on what you end up with Matt and how you end up liking it. BTW, Bolt V2 vs 540 video coming up and I noticed the Bolt V2 is $280 now. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mattwild1847]

@Matt LeGrand 530 on sale £200 Bolt available for £249 at the moment. Been lucky enough borrow a friends 530 to try. Seems ok has everything I need,miss the ease of set up. But once it's set up all good. Screen is OK but have seen it next to a v2 and makes it look very poor. Got a few weeks before I need buy so hopefully Wahoo bring an update out which everyone keeps talking about on the v2. Cheers for the reply.

[@mattwild1847]

@Matt LeGrand ended up going for the 530, due to battery life. So far so good, screen is ok(wahoo better) syncs quicker than wahoo(need open the app 1st to connect phone) garmin does it Auto which helps when on the commute as phone is always packed away 1st. Getting use to swapping screen takes a bit of practice. Only took a few days, mapping is OK. Lots of data to play with and was £200 so cheaper than the Wahoo.

[@mlegrand]

@@mattwild1847 - so actually think the 530 is a good call. Especially at that price. Thanks for the update Matt! 👍

[@mrparrotman03]

Cheap, easy and functional

[@mlegrand]

I don't know if I'd call them cheap. But I agree that these are very functional. Thanks Mr. Parrotman!

[@krisvanaut]

Do you know it has integration features to work with the Garmin sports watches?

[@mlegrand]

There are some integration points with the sports watches. For example, there's a triathlon hand-off feature. There is also the amount of acute load that will be synced via Garmin Connect and the watch to help better track recovery needs. I'm sure there's more but I typically tell people that they don't have to stick to a Garmin computer just because they have that brand of watch. I mix match frequently. Thanks for the question Kris!

[@krisvanaut]

​@@mlegrand Thx. Mat, i mix and match as well, that was not my question. I was interested to know the differnces because i consider to upgrade from my edge 130 bike computer

[@semihcalhan4659]

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[@mlegrand]

You are very welcome.

[@semihcalhan4659]

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[@mlegrand]

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[@charlesmansplaining]

I have an Edge 830. I don't need to know anything really.

[@mlegrand]

But Charles, the title says “Need To Know!” With an exclamation mark and everything. 😆 Thanks for watching anyway.

[@charlesmansplaining]

@@mlegrand I may have spoken to soon. My 830 has been going wonkers lately. The device keeps changing data fields by itself and sometimes just starts blinking on and off. It's done this about 6 times in a row or the last 6 rides. The glass looks like it's lifting around the edges now. So I ordered the 840 non solar just the device but with tax and all it still came out to about $480. That's was a tuff pill to swallow but gotta have it. It should be here today and judging from this video I will probably like it better because of the buttons. I really don't care much for the touchscreen but I'm sure in some cases it will come in handy.

[@mlegrand]

@@charlesmansplaining - Yes, I think this is the best option from Garmin currently. I think you’ll really like it. Keep me posted.

[@charlesmansplaining]

@@mlegrand It took me literally a entire evening to get the computer set up. It is not as intuitive as I thought it would be. Some things from Garmin Connect Sync'd but eliminating most of the baked in data screens was a chore. Setting up the data screens, which I typically needed 4 screens, was a nightmare. And one common complaint from people who left reviews on the Ride With GPS instructions site had the same issue I had where I couldn't get the thing to pair and kept giving me an ERROR 2 result. I never gave up and got things sorted finally. I like the appearance of the screens better than the 830. During setup it seemed to me the battery was losing charge pretty quickly, I hope that isn't the case when I get to do a ride. And it seemed to take a long time to get to 100%. I still have a ways to go to find out what navigation is like on the fly, it was nearly impossible on the 830. IMO this bike computer does way more than a cyclist needs and could be a potential danger if you take your focus away from the road to play with all that functionality.