After the Fact: Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?

[@b.ashley9222]

Just something to consider. People who self harm will likely end up hurting those who care about them through their actions. Did you ever consider that the actions Luna takes, and the resulting help she gets could relate to and express the issues of some people who aren't in the best place mentally and emotionally? If you're gripped by self-loathing and depression you will make mistakes. You will do things that end up hurting other people. This episode shows how unhealthy that is, and gives another way. Luna's actions are depicted as wrong, and her struggles are relatable. She honestly has some of the deepest issues of any character to deal with.

[@Arella17]

As a sufferer of Depression trying to shove that into her motivation makes the episode worse. Especially the "treatement" that is shown. Not years of therapy, a peptalk and hugs are what cures Luna.

[@b.ashley9222]

Arella17 It definitely could be handled better. Just about every major conflict with any psychological aspect to it is resolved poorly in MLP. It just bothers me when people don't try to understand why someone would have taken those actions. Should the writers have gone that route? Not really, since they can't handle it in the short time they have. However, they sis go that route, and it revealed something about the character, and people are for the most part ignoring that. Instead of mentioning that the resolution should have been different (say, it's defeated by her agreeing to start the path of forgiving herself, and seeking help) the entire premise is hated. People also hate HER for not dealing well with her emotions, and say that she's a horrible person for it. That bothers me considering the way people who have deep emotional issues are usually treated in society.

[@Arella17]

It doesn't help that this episode follows several others that didn't even have hints of Luna being depressed. Any mention of Nightmare Moon was more of a statement of "I understand what you're going through" rather than hints that she's suffering. It makes this whole episode come out of left field. When a fanfic author makes a more interesting story about Luna's guilt and depression that introduces it in an organic manner and doesn't cure it with a hug. Then that means this episode's writers had no place trying to write depression or self harm. Again I'm actually a sufferer of depression trivializing this disorder and the treatment of it like this episode did shows that these writers had no business even attempting to make an episode about depression or Self-Harm.

[@b.ashley9222]

Arella17 You're commenting like you're assuming that I'm not someone with experience with that as well. It's never good to make that assumption, considering the sheer number of people who have to deal with mental health issues. I personally found something I could connect to, even if it was poorly handled, so I'm able to take positives away from it. They should have done a better job with it, but I have an issue with people using this as a way to bash Luna instead of questioning the writers. If the arguments focused on what you're saying, then I wouldn't have too much of an issue, but the "Luna is worst princess evar, because blegh" stuff that I've seen after this episode bothers me. The writers were out of their depth handling it this way for sure. Instead of addressing that, though, people just say "that was stupid" or "Luna is so dumb" and don't carry on a discussion. Since it is poorly handled, it would be a great place to start a discussion about the way mental illness is mishandled in media, a discussion about self-fulfilling fears, or even a discussion about the way self-harm (even when restricted to emotional) ends up harming other people too. There's a lot of potential for good conversations, but instead people are busy using it as evidence for why Luna is "the worst" to them, and that bothers me.

[@NoirRaven]

@@Arella17 Old comment is old but my question is, how are they going to do that if she's not the main character? You can't really hint at depression anyway. Someone who seems perfectly normal is most likely to be suffering the most inside. You have depression, right? Don't you know how to turn it off for people? Most do.

[@katecullin5476]

Let's be real here. Dr. Wolf's dream may have been a joke, but I firmly believe that it is scarily accurate.

[@广林散记]

Yep

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian]

🙄 dumb wolf.

[@queenofcute72]

Kate Cullin FORGET THOSE PONIES, WE HAVE WOLVES TO WORSHIP!

[@theweirdochannel8735]

I LOVE WOLVES SO MUCH QUEEN OF CUTE.

[@theweirdochannel8735]

@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian DOC IS NOT DUMB!

[@brigidtheirish]

The hype is the fandom's problem. Just looking at the show, she's a fine character who's *trying* to be better. But she's also depressed. The revelations in this episode make a great deal of sense out of her previous appearances. She's been trying to emulate her sister. She's been exhausted from denying herself restful sleep. She's been blaming herself not only for things she actually did, but things she could've done and didn't do. As someone who suffers from clinical depression, I empathize so much. And, sure, she should've talked to her sister, but sometimes it's hard to talk to those who should be closest to us. Luna isn't thinking clearly, she's sabotaging herself without intending to, she needs *therapy*. As for the nature of the tantabus, it makes perfect sense. People with depression are their own worst enemies. Our demons are of our own creation. Our actions affect all around us. Our efforts to punish ourselves hurt those who care about us most. The tantabus being some outside force would diminish the message of self-forgiveness.

[@Doomsday-yo7lh]

I think the problem is that the Tantabus was Luna’s conscious creation . If it were some kind of being unconsciously formed from Luna’s self-hatred, it would be understandable. But Luna actually created this creature, knowing full well how dangerous it is. Also if her self-hatred really is that strong that she would consciously create a being to torture herself, it’s kind of weird that a speech managed to suddenly resolve all her issues.

[@brigidtheirish]

Except she didn't realize until after it escaped that it *could* escape. She said as much. And I doubt the speech resolved all her issues. It just made her willing to work them out in a way that didn't involve torturing herself. It made her realize that others are willing to help her, that others *care* enough to help her regardless of the potential dangers. That they think she's *worth* caring about. Just hearing that can be a huge help and the first big step to recovery for many people.

[@Doomsday-yo7lh]

brigidtheirish Well, I kind of wish that ending was made more clear then. Because it really did seem as though it resolved all her issues. I think it would have been better if the episode had maybe ended with her talking to Celestia about it. You know, someone who can tend to her and provide her with the comfort and advice she needs to begin recovery? After all, confiding in family and friends is a pretty important part of the recovery process. IDK, I’m just spitballing here. I get what the episode was trying to tackle, but I just think it could have been done better.

[@nightshroud9671]

Sucks that Luna is still in Celestia's shadow while the actual issues that led NMM to happen wasn't properly resolved there.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@nightshroud9671 Except some of the issues were resolved, or were at least being worked on. Having a holiday dedicated to her that's celebrated at night so she can actively participate, for instance.

[@DRWolf001]

My secret is out...Curse you Silver! :)

[@BubblesZap]

Nice secret there doc

[@tm_ness]

That dream generally crept me out

[@leohino9211]

What exactly is your secret?

[@terrosblue5575]

+DRWolf001 all hail the wolf *bows*

[@thewolf8660]

*bows on one knee* ALL HAIL WOLF! ALL HAIL WOLF! ALL HAIL WOLF! ALL HAIL WOLF! ALL HAIL WOLF!

[@CrimsonGuard1992]

I loved the fact that the Tantibus was a creation of Luna. It all reflects the famous saying: "We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell."~Oscar Wiljava It teaches the lesson that our suffering can be of our creation and that we need to learn to go easier on ourselves or to forgive ourselves. We can be our own worst enemy at times. That to me is a very powerful message.

[@whateveraj4496]

Demon Hunter That's so true. I don't like when people criticize that Luna made the monster. But the guilt can make you do those things, and lots of people punish themselves

[@maskofice9432]

That's true, but that's not something we consciously do. You usually don't go out of your way to torment yourself, but it does happen. From what I understand, the complaint is not that she created it, but that she consciously created it. Now looking at the line in the episode, it doesn't directly state that she does create it consciously, but it does imply that, which is where I believe the problem arises.

[@whateveraj4496]

Thats a good point. I believe that she actually didnt create it on purpose, but it was created from her guilt and took the blame for it and made her self believe it was her fault and that she deserved it. As you stated, they aren't very clear on that so it gives people some room to put more ways to put the wording

[@CrimsonGuard1992]

I respectfully disagree. We can do it consciously also. People with autism or Asperger do these kinds of things. They think differently and thus are capable of consciously tormenting themselves. From personal experience, I have consciously punished myself at times.

[@ambermargheim5726]

I liked the comic version of this episode. Nightmarity! !!!! Nightmare + rarity. I call this phrase.

[@dannykey2737]

Rainbow Dash: Where am I? Flowey: Howdy! I'm Flowey, Flowey the Flower. Rainbow Dash: AAAAHHH!

[@evc8145]

Danny Key lol

[@tiredTheorist]

NO MORE FLOWEY AVADA KEDAVRA

[@Katlove687]

YES UNDERTALE FOR LIFE

[@derpstudios7500]

and you sir have made my day

[@ambermargheim5726]

Oh and it shows how her jelosy caused the nightmare moon. Now shows her freement. It's not that she was inocent it's that she is now redeemed and yes, misunderstood because she's not evil now. Ok.??? Not...O v e r a t e d .. uugg I really said it....

[@melaniebisnath717]

Rainbow’s dream is the most badass dream except for the.....cuteness The cuteness...is...Hell

[@zsanaz007]

Puppy/Kitty/Animal cuteness is allowed.. BUT NOT BABY SHOW CUTENESS! THEY CAN BURN FOR ALL I CARE!

[@DBZgeek2000]

The fact that it cut to Frieza's hell is the best part for me

[@drakeredwingofficial]

what actually happens in MLP vs what uninformed folks thing happens in MLP

[@saraandfriends2813]

*Sees the cuteness* I STRONGLY DISAGREE! THIS IS SOOOOO CUUUUUUUUUUUTE!

[@pigcatapult]

As someone who struggles with self-harm (and that's what Luna's doing here) and intrusive thoughts: re: guilt over things that usually happened years ago and *weren't* as big a deal as trying to bring about eternal night? I'm skeptical that Luna is at fault as much as she says/feels she is for creating the Tantabus. She's a dream god living in a stealth psychological horror setting where sufficient negative emotions *spontaneously generates/invites demons.* That's how she got possessed by the Nightmare Force to begin with. The tantabus is Luna's personal windigo.

[@therook7925]

ALL HAIL WOLF!

[@irrelevantperson785]

ALL HAIL WOLF!

[@delfinal7560]

*ALL HAIL WOLF!!!*

[@shinraset]

Alle Grüßen Wolf

[@sunischhitshrestha9761]

All hail wolf

[@spaceninjabob8444]

ALL HAlL WOLF!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@BioniclesaurKing4t2]

10:19 "Hi, I'm Flowey. Flowey the…Flow…er…(eh-hehe-HEhe) You. IDIOT!"

[@dreamnight8946]

Yaaassss! That's what I thought!

[@newsance2u]

but flowly is a buttercup

[@dreamnight8946]

No he's not...

[@Speeddemon105]

+BioniclesaurKing4t2 RUN! ITS GENERATION 3!

[@ZiddersRooFurry]

+WolfDragon Assassin He's not a buttercup. He's a sunflower. Buttercups look nothing like flowey. They look like cups hence their name.

[@BronyDebates]

I'd like to add some points to the ones already made on Luna's irresponsibility in this episode. Firstly, yes; it was highly illogical and irresponsible of her to do so. But a lot of people seem to be forgetting that this is a real thing that people put themselves through when they feel guilt over something they've done. This episode demonstrated Luna taking responsibility for her sins but doing so in the wrong way. For those that go through this type of internal conflict, that perspective is extremely difficult to attain. I've seen a lot of people fault the episode for Luna's internal and external conflict. However, I believe that showing that conflict with oneself is what makes it great. Additionally, this episode demonstrated the incredibly important WHY that type of mentality is destructive to ourselves and others and it also showed all of the necessary steps to resolving it. Understanding the guilt, desiring redemption, outreach, trust and forgiveness. Luna certainly didn't know these things before this episode and through most of it. But I'd wager that she certainly does now. It's just unfortunate that these types of events are what it took to make her realize that.

[@Speeddemon105]

+Brawny Buck And that's the moral of the story! XD Great insight man.

[@lambeorolfe2009]

+Brawny Buck I agree, but the real problem here is the timing; not just in the episode's release date and the coming of the revelation itself, but also in how quickly it was resolved. Granted this is a show with a lot of budget constraints limiting it to just 22 minutes, but this is a topic that deserved a lot more time devoted to it.

[@BronyDebates]

That's a good point and all I can say is that it can and sometimes does happen that quickly when the person experiencing that guilt has a good line of support. Changing minds does happen, especially when people realize that what they've been doing is wrong and in this case counterproductive to what they've been trying to accomplish.

[@karalea9170]

true true

[@SoanosBarcoded]

A very good analysis, and I agree with you. I have problems with this same internal conflict and it is very disruptive to my life in general and my relationship with my SO. I think the episode tried its best but 22 minutes is not enough to describe main types of love (Luna's being a good example of "Agape" type). I am a living testament how destructive this conflict can be. It is not often when I find a relatable character in a TV series, but she feels like an image of me (not externally, I am a hideous freak).

[@blueneon2831]

ALL LUNA FANS FAR AND WIDE ATTACK!!!

[@bigblujay9729]

They're just a bunch of overreactioning babies.

[@thetruebloodchannel6194]

cannedcramed will *kill* him

[@elisimming5191]

*CHARGE*

[@raycom201]

Bigblujay 97 Now that’s just rude and untrue

[@raycom201]

Nathan Leifer he’s entitled to his own opinion

[@wishfulink1219]

VoiceOfReason, she isn't a bad influence, in the CMC episode she's been a fantastic role model and teacher. But when it comes to herself she is unsure and is very vulnerable. I am very much the same, to my younger siblings (ages 9 & 6) and the children I care for in my Childcare centre I'm a very good influence, however when it comes to my own life and decisions I'm not exactly at my best. Luna isn't perfect, she is flawed, but she is a good mentor for the young.

[@andrewobrien8325]

Thank you, Silver Quill you have no idea what brilliant timing you have. Today has been a horrible day, I lost something very dear to me, I just wanted to watch something that'd make me laugh and your video came up! Thank you, thank you. You sir are wonderful!

[@MLPSilverQuill]

+Andrew O'Brien I'm glad my video could add some humor. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@cinnamonsun7099]

+MLP-Silver-Quill are you going to BABSCON because I am and I wanna see you also Mai Waifu is Pinkie Pie.

[@splicetape9435]

same here, just got done with a triple shift and this was home to greet me.

[@leohino9211]

Silver I think you should take into consideration that 1minute rant on future collabs

[@alexgieser4327]

Im glad i got over this one was two good 🤔

[@user-xp8nv7qf2e]

I dunno, personally, I think part of what makes Luna an interesting character is how imperfect she is. A lot of people I know, including myself, will beat themselves up over mistakes, and I think the Tantabus was just the god-level version of that, multiplied by the magnitude of the mistake she made. Yeah, she shouldn't be absolved of all wrongdoing, that would be silly, but I don't think that wrongdoing is reason to say she shouldn't be liked. Out of the three non-Twilight princesses, I'd say she's definitely the most interesting and developed. Also, just gotta say, Tantabus had one of the coolest villain designs!

[@taddad2641]

I dunno what the fanboys think, but while luna is one of my fav characters, i never saw her as some innocent woobie. She made a msitake. She lost control of herself and let the darkness in. She is misunderstood, yes, but that does not make her guiltless of her actions. While it is clear that luna had lost control when she became nightmare moon, possessed by a demon manifested from her lonliness, jealousy, and hatred, she is still the one that summoned that demon. Yet that came about after a prolonged period of time of isolation. Perhaps some of it of her own creation, perhaps some of it from the fear her subjects had and how she did not feel recognized. Ultiamtely it seems this went on for Decades. That is why i like luna. she has faced strife and is trying with all her heart to redeem herself. The tantabus is a manifestation of a fear. That she will fall to temptation once more, that nightmarem oon would ultimately return. She hurt herself. And it was meant to be seen as that. She was hurting herself out of guilt, and it was unhealthy. And it was misguided to not try and keep taht nightmare in check. Hell i have a theory that the tantabus escaping was simply to cause luna more grief. It existed to harm her, and thus it escaped in order to cause her more pain. Awesome video and an intersting back and forth there.

[@AllistorRichards]

+Tad Dad to be honest it wasn't just jealousy and hatred that got to her, it was also the festering talk of other Ponies, who were actively scared by her night.

[@leohino9211]

She was like Sunset Shimmer. And Midnight Sparkle.

[@ZiddersRooFurry]

+Tad Dad This is why Luna rocks

[@Passports-pls]

How long did it take you to write that

[@Nuinwing]

+Allistor Richards Ermh...if I remember it right Luna became Nightmare Moon because she resented the fact that ponies were active during the day but slept trough her beautiful night.I don't remember any mention of ponies being scared of the night(pre-Nightmare Moon).

[@The0ptimus]

8:16 Dear God XD, Silver Quill's extra happy face makes everything 50% funnier

[@gingerkays7362]

The Tantabus actually kinda reminds me of the Shadows from Persona 4. It’s a physical manifestation of Luna’s deepest darkest feelings, and once she accepts it as part of her it’s absorbed into her

[@kitetenjogalladeknighttosh8863]

Now we need Luna to say "your not me!" And then boom, a Persona 4 boss

[@Dylan-rs9pm]

Mane 6:don't say it Luna:your not me

[@Babbleplay]

Pfft. Filthy Rich. Typical wealthy stereotype. He sees a problem, and he tries to make it go away by throwing money at it.

[@miriambouhlal173]

so true

[@Babbleplay]

Miriam Bouhlal True makes the best comedy. S'why I love Last Week Tonight.

[@dogguy8603]

so US domestic policy

[@Babbleplay]

dog guy So much win for you, Sir.

[@Luna-ui4kx]

Babbleplay haha

[@Sponandi]

16:33 In the German dub, they fixed this issue. Luna tells there that that she _probably_ created the tantabus, meaning that she didn't do it intentionally

[@odettefahy4568]

That makes so much better and doesn't make the lesson stupid

[@jamesdosdall8391]

As someone who watched FiM for the first time less than a year ago, I can assure you that the hype around Luna is not solely because of the fandom. I watched all 9 seasons back to back without being influenced by the opinions of the fandom, because I wasn't yet a part of the fandom yet. And when I finished this show, I LOVED Luna. Largely due to this episode. Whether you like it or not, there is something relatable about her character that has made her widely loved by so many fans.

[@yamimew2000]

Sorry Silver Quill, but your insurance doesn't cover dream injuries.

[@astaroth4418]

XD

[@minecraftmadison462]

Lol

[@RedCordPlayer]

16:00 Yes!!!! I love Luna, but "overrated" is exactly what she's been for quite some time now. I mean with all the time she's been on screen, she really hasn't done anything. She just talks about her past mistake and has helped the CMC overcome their fears and that's about it. 19:50 Umm...Voice, you might want to help Silver Quill out. His pony insurance only covers half his injuries and I don't think it covers accidents in dreams

[@gutsmasterson2488]

+Redcord CHN Put something on Cartoon Watchers already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^99

[@RedCordPlayer]

Soon. I've been really busy with my job and 8 hours a day takes a lot out of my editing time and most of my Oc designers are busy with college. And on top of all that, I've been sick these past few weeks.

[@ZegohsOfZegCrew]

+Redcord CHN Is she overrated though? Maybe I'm just disconnected from the rest of the fandom, but I've never had that feeling about Luna's role as a princess or as a part in an episode. My dislike of this episode is proof.

[@gutsmasterson2488]

Redcord CHN then have a guest or something do everything and then you edit and publish it between. You have allies, use them

[@RedCordPlayer]

I do have plans for more videos and even have some scripts finished but at the moment I have to focus 3 videos for my pony channel, 1 for cartoon watchers and there's going to be some changes after I'm done with those videos. All will be explained in an update video.

[@frostyandme3429]

Fan boys:LUNA LUNA LUNA LUNA LUNA Luna: (screams) that part was funny to me

[@DiamondToa83]

As someone who's inflected self harm on my self... I have actually connected with a pony princess. That's the reason why I actually like this episode.

[@SugaryKeko]

Personally, I think this video is a pretty good representation of self-harm. It's something you do to hurt yourself for what you perceive as a worthy cause even though it does no good to you and could cause harm to those around you. Personally it's why I appreciate the episode so much.

[@athena_the_goddesss6238]

Oh my gosh. No, I 100% understand why Luna made a Tantabus. This is how I dealt with the things in my past. I never wanted to forget about how terrible I had been, but I took an unhealthy tactic to make myself never become that again: tormenting myself over those past mistakes. Seriously, this episode came at the right moment in my life and truly made me move on. Like, it really did. 3 years later and I'm still tearing up remembering how I felt when Luna revealed she created the Tantabus, what the Mane 6 expressed to her, and how it just went away once she forgave herself and acknowledged that her efforts to change for the better proved she was already better than before.

[@elizabethbeck4071]

at least Luna has a personality. all derphy has to do is say muffins and the fandom yells and claps

[@i.m.b4398]

Derpy

[@tylowstar9765]

Muffins

[@yancisamaya5645]

elizabeth beck i like luna as my favorite princess, but as for background ponies, derpy takes home the gold.

[@misterpanic73]

elizabeth beck: pretty much.

[@thegayghost872]

She's a mascot.

[@TheAwes0meo]

I never questioned her making the Tantabus, partly because when she made it, she had just been reformed from Nightmare moon and wouldn't have known how to properly resolve her guilt. You can't expect her to make all the right choices suddenly after a thousand years in solitude.

[@nevermore7285]

A year late, but I am honestly confused why people believe Luna knew what the Tantabus was capable of. She created it with the sole purpose of tormenting herself, and so she believed that was all it could do. She never imagined how it would grow or what it could really do. I would compare this to Twilight's spell in "Bats", or Starlight's spell in "Every Little Thing She Does," a spell that worked exactly as intended at first, but also one with unforeseen concerns and issues. The thing about the more powerful spells the unicorns cast is that so far they seem to massively underestimate what a spells full potential is and what the side effects and long-term effects of a spell will be. Well, I will admit it was stupid of her to create the thing and torment herself with it; I don't believe she created it with the ability to do harm to other ponies. She believed it was trapped in her dream, and it was until it grew more powerful than she ever intended or thought it could become.

[@j.c.2240]

I had initially interpreted the tantabus (?) as something Luna created unintentionally through neglecting her mental health

[@QueenTwivineSparkle7805]

Thou dare insult us

[@RickisRetiered]

+VoiceOfReason I'm not crazy about this episode either, but I disagree with a couple of your complaints. I think people feel sorry for Luna because her story is one of a fall from grace. Most people know what she did was selfish and unjustified, and most people know Celestia was in the right to banish her (it's terrifying what a lack of sun can do to the land), but it's because Luna was once a good ruler who eventually turned into a monster because of jealousy causing self destruction. Then when she was turned back to normal, she was filled with immediate regret from how wrong she was rather than simply for being caught. Because of that, sympathy (and empathy for those who might have had a similar experience with jealousy taking over) kicked into gear for a lot of people. While Luna did know the Tantabus can harm people (she made it just to harm herself after all), she most likely didn't know it could escape her dreams in the first place. -"It must have learned of you six from seeing you in my dream." -"I saw that the Tantabus had grown more powerful, but I did not realize that power was enough to enable it to escape my dreams" -"I think it's feeding off your guilt, Princess Luna." -"If that is so, then perhaps that is how it grew strong enough to escape in the first place." Those quotes pretty much confirm that she didn't know of the Tantabus' full capabilities. Even at the start of the episode when it escaped she basically went "wait, what?" Then there was when she said that only she could move from dream to dream. That's the reason she didn't take any of the Mane Six along with her after visiting each dream. Even in Bloom and Gloom, Applebloom never stepped into the doors of either Sweetie Belle or Scootaloo's dreams, but rather watched them from outside. Though there is a contradiction from the fact that all three ended up in the same dream at the end.

[@AtarahDerek]

Luna can also create shared dreams, so the dream that the CMC shared was on a dreamscape specifically designed for that meeting. Which is why it was the CMC clubhouse. Had Luna been willing to accept help from the Mane Six to begin with, she would have created a shared dream for the seven of them to stop the tantabus.

[@7Seraphem7]

+Ricky Ray Also rarity outright pretty much tells Luna "You go follow the Tantabus, I got this."

[@thevideo-beast122]

+Ricky Ray "... Was once a great ruler... " I'm sorry, but I got the impression that Luna became evil and crazy early in her tenure of being a princess.Also, while I do agree that Luna didn't expect the tantibus to grow pass her control, that shouldn't excuse her from making something that could potentionally destroy the world.

[@koalafromtomorrow5656]

@@thevideo-beast122 apparently the darkness is a living entity

[@opalmoon3165]

What is Celestia supposed to do in the realm of sleep issue supposed to hold up the sun say oh you monsters will be defeated by the power of friendship she's the princess of the SUN literally Luna is THE gaurdian of DREAMS Celestia has NO power over anyone's dreams

[@opalmoon3165]

Key word: DREAM

[@Raven1799Games]

Well, she has power in Luna's dreams...and she's the problem...so I say celestia would be useful

[@moonlice]

agreed i mean big mac could be a Alicorn in the dream and and yet it says celestia would be no help if she was there????

[@bigblujay9729]

Agreed! :3

[@irelandaintreal2945]

Celestia could have cheered Luna on. That would make for some nice sisterly scenes.

[@Doomsday-yo7lh]

Holy shit, and I thought the Starlight fans were aggressive.

[@dominicbestakablazeshimmer9258]

findingbuglantis You have no idea.

[@catherinefairley3889]

@Maria Angelina Fernandez Salas oh hi fellow aggressive luna fan.

[@ambermargheim5726]

Um gonna sound stupid but...WHAT THE HECK IS A WIFU???????? IT IS IN EVERY REACTION VID OF EVERY.. oops caps lock.of every youtuber. What is a wifu?

[@silentshadows2963]

@@ambermargheim5726 well uh. A wifu, (fandom slang) is a fictional character from non-live-action visual media that one is attracted to and considers a significant other.

[@ambermargheim5726]

@@silentshadows2963 thx!

[@Xolcm]

Everything that Voice said about Luna during his rant is exactly how I feel about Celestia. Are we sure he didn't get his characters mixed up?

[@isiahanderson2409]

19:03 silver quill: well shut my mouth.

[@dasutanehineri]

I feel like I should comment again, I don't think I really explained myself enough.... Luna is overrated to some people, (personally, I really like her) but to others, she isn't. Some people hate her because she's 'Dark and edgy', some people love her because of that. Some people can relate to the guilt she feels, and why she created the Tantabus. I highly doubt anyone who watches this show has attempted to kill everyone and shroud the world in eternal night, but we as humans do have moments where we hurt other people, even our friends... some people are able to go to that person and apologize with all their heart, some people are able to get over the guilt they feel.... but some people can't. For some people making a simple mistake, let alone hurting someone/people you care about, can lead to feelings of extreme guilt and self-hatred. These people feel a need to be punished, and these people aren't going to go to someone for help.... why would they? They feel like what they've done is unforgivable, and whether that's true or not, there's no way they're going to talk to someone about it. I can tell you from experience. Had that Tantabus not gotten out of Luna's control, she would have continued on, each night, suffering because she truly believes she deserves it. Some people say, "Oh she should just get over it! Shes an idiot to torture herself each night!", and I gotta ask, would you say that to one of your friends who was going through the same thing?

[@nf7202]

All Hail Wolf

[@Enchie]

Reminds me of my dreams.

[@RaulDiaz-mp8ms]

+Nikolas Freiberger Dawn of the planet of the wolves!

[@Kayjoir]

+Nikolas Freiberger It's always the quiet ones

[@SuperRavensfan101]

+Tom Reis "and they'll never see it coming"

[@David-nq8cv]

followers of tyrants will perish

[@Emma-fu8mi]

18:36 If the stopping tantabus was one of Luna's duties, it would either have to have formed in the past year of cannon, or it would have escaped a long time ago without Luna guarding against it.

[@chaoticnote]

Oh... so he hates Luna but loves Gilda?

[@bigblujay9729]

Yep!

[@bigblujay9729]

All because he hate Luna? she's is a very overrated character, dude. Also I'm pretty sure Voice respects all Luna fans.

[@mastercarson99]

Bigblujay 97 if he respects us fans of Luna then why does he say that to us himself and if he even apologizes for what he said about our favorite princess cause if he does I might forgive him maybe but if he Doesn’t I will always hate him for the rest of my life.

[@bigblujay9729]

Well' that's you opinion. Your really gonna hate someone for hating a fan favorite? (not saying she's favorite princess I'm more of a Celestia fan) Dude, not everyone is gonna love Luna I'm not a fan of her.

[@mastercarson99]

Bigblujay 97 yes I will always hate him for the rest of my life and he will suffer for what he said about our favorite princess that we all respect and praise and love and we her fans would not just ignore what he said about her not in his own life.

[@EmRose.r]

I'd like to share my thoughts on this episode on a personal level. I relate to Luna. I relate to the feeling of abandonment, of trying desperately to understand why people didn't like me, in fact loathed me. I remember breaking and running away, and when I was found all the events afterwards felt like I was isolated for one thousand years. I remember starting anew, new school, new opportunities, new friends, I was in a happy place! But even still, my past looms over me, and I have dreams of the people who tortured me and I felt like I tortured them because it was the only reason I could think of that would make them so cruel towards me. I day dream scenarios and situations with them in it, again ruining my life and everything in it. Even though my friends and family know of my pain, they don't know I am still tortured by the thought that they might come back, and that I don't deserve to feel any happiness because I feel as though it's not worth it anymore. I relate the Tantibus to my thoughts of cutting and suicide. I know that it could be harmful to my friends and family if I take action to those thoughts, but I think of it anyway, because it's either that, or fall into a false sense of security only to have it ripped away from me at any given moment. I know that my friends believe in me, I know my family can help, but I feel if they help too much, they will no longer understand me. Take this, and put it in the episode, and then maybe you'll understand Luna's reasoning and thought process.

[@ms.lemonteaproductions9839]

I love how much people invest Luna's character in the fandom. The art, the music, the stories, it shows Hasbro what we the fans want from the show, to put into Luna's development as a more diverse character and to make her a better princess. And to this I thank you fellow luna fans and to you too Silver, even though some fans think Luna is overrated, but if they'd only look closer they would see what we Luna fans see, and if you are a Luna hater reading this I just want to ask you just to look a little deeper into not just the Luna in the show, but the Luna we Luna fans see. Not a Luna who wants to be Know as a princess and her duties, but a young soul who felt alone in the world who wanted for someone to know her and not fear her for being princess of the night and her older sister would not understand this. Luna was not jelous of Celestia's Day she was Jeleous of all the love she got from their subject, while she received their fear. So please just at least TRY to see what we see, read a fanfiction about Luna or watch a Luna tribute. Even if that does change your Hater prospective then at least try to see it from both sides. Great Review Guys. : )

[@ms.lemonteaproductions9839]

PS to those who thought a Thousand years on the Moon was a good idea then think of it this way. A thousand years is a REALLY long time in human standards. 3 years possibly, 20 years maybe, but A Thousands is a very long time to be alone, heck I'm surprised Luna didn't go insane. I know Luna wanted to make it eternal night, but do you think she actually THOUGHT about the problems this would caused, her mind was clouded by anger and sometimes we don't think things through when we're angery, if Luna had defeated Celestia she would have likely noticed her subjects were starving after a couple of nights and then would have eventually decided to raise the sun for them, but instead of Celestia letting her sister learn a lesson on her own, she sent her to live all alone ON A BARREN MOON FOR A THOUSAND YEARS!!!! yeah.....Really good teaching there Celestia. Really. good. teaching.

[@nightshroud9671]

@@ms.lemonteaproductions9839 Well, the NMM timeline in Cutie Re-Mark showed Equestria completely fine. So she must have thought things through. Afterall, it will contradict her goals if everyone ends up dying there. I blame the Elements/Harmony too for how Luna got sent to the moon like that honestly.

[@kristenarvoy2776]

@@nightshroud9671 it wasn’t the fault of the elements of harmony, they were just incomplete, she was using the elements on her own, and missing the most important thing needed for the elements to work properly and that was too gather the main 6 + unintentional trials of friendship and the MOST IMPORTANT PART the (well, then the realization of friendship) BUT THEN, THE MAGIC 🪄 OF FRIENDSHIP

[@123naruhina]

In defense of Luna for the Celestia portion, I understand why she never went to her. She's understanding, yes, but I think it goes beyond that. I think she's not talking to her BECAUSE she's guilty. She doesn't want to burden her sister because she feels like she's done that enough. I think many people in real life understand that feeling. When I was really sick from my autoimmune disorder, I didn't want help from others beyond my medication, even though I kept getting sick because of it. I felt like I was burdening everyone by making them do things normal people CAN do. Eventually, it got worse and they had to help regardless. I think Luna essentially doesn't want to burden her sister with her guilt anymore. (Sorry, I'm bad at explaining)

[@LostInNumbers]

The entire point of the tentabus is that it didn't help Luna but only hurt her and those surrounding her. The tentabus didn't came from some rational place, Luna summoned it as a way to practice self harm. It came from her self loathing and inability to forgive herself. She was wrong to create it, but that's what the episode is all about. Coming to understand that self destructive behavior is *not* a good thing that you should subject yourself, that it isn't the way to make amend but a self reinforcing trap. And yes it makes the most sense for Luna who have always been socially isolated to develop these tendencies. She could not confine her feeling with Celestia because she feels guilty _towards_ Celestia and she doesn't really have anyone else. She is not really that close with the mane 6, and her relationship with the CMC is too much in the same vane as that of a teacher to students. She never even attends the Grands Galloping Gala. And you know what? This is why I love Luna as a character, she is defined by her flaws, but she is also defined by a genuine attempt to rise above them. This is actually a running theme in the show and one of the main reasons I love MLP:FiM so much. all the main characters in the show are flawed, from the mane six to the CMC to spike to Luna. The stories in this show are more often than not built around the main characters fighting against their own short coming rather than against some outside antagonist.

[@cuteskeleton9381]

I think it would have been neat to see the mane five's worst fears be shown in the nightmares. We only know Twilight's and Spike's so far via Sombra but I wanna know about everyone else in the group, what do they fear most?

[@dreamnight8946]

Pinkie Pie doesn't have fears, because she's too busy laughing

[@cuteskeleton9381]

+Dream Night Not necessarily, she's been shown to have separation anxiety and abandonment issues under all that positive energy.

[@dreamnight8946]

+Alisha Dee -_- I was referencing the second episode of season one...

[@cuteskeleton9381]

+Dream Night Whoops, I'm dumb XD

[@dreamnight8946]

+Alisha Dee it's ok

[@PurpleJojoStar]

ALL HAIL WOLF!!!!!

[@shadowbladeandlightin8889]

ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF ALL HAIL WOLF

[@endercat4816]

ALL HAIL WOLF

[@octodog5907]

The only things about this episode that irked me were Twilight's, Applejack's, and Rarity's dreams, and how quickly Luna forgave herself. I've seen people who have hated themselves so much that they do basically feel the need to torment themselves for what they've done, so her creating the Tantabus was realistic to me. But they NEVER recover that quickly.

[@dawnseeker176]

+Octodog yeah but i peg that last one down to 20 minute timelimit

[@octodog5907]

Dawn Seeker Yeah, I agree.

[@MackenziiRivers]

+Octodog yeah no one forgives themselves that quickly. I know, 20 minuits isn't a lot, but I think maybe; Celestia came into the dream (because her dream was about the christal empire- pinkie was in the crystal empire at one point, maybe celestia could have been hidden on the castle's balcony?) and come down to her sister (after twilight's talk), and say something like- 'it'll take time, but with help from others, we can help you, my sister.' then the mist creature goes. And even though the creature is gone, at the end of the season (well not now so)- or next season an episode where someone asks- how is luna- and celestia says, she's doing good now. but that's just my though.

[@redbasher636]

Yes.

[@7Seraphem7]

+Octodog It wasn't 'forgiving herself' as in totally and completely putting everything behind her and now is perfect forever. Or anything. It was just breaking the mental feedback loop of guilt, shame and self hatred the Tantabus was feeding off of.

[@Nazo-kage]

19:30 Saying that she knew that it was something that would harm others would imply that she knew that he could escape if she dreamed of anybody else, when the truth is she did not. She was surprised we didn’t manage to gain enough strength by feeding on her negativity, (an element she did NOT know about) It gained the ability to break free from her dream and enter others. To her this was only supposed to be a self-contained self-punishment. But much like in real life the things you do to yourself will often spill out and affect others. In her mind what she did as nightmare moon was so horrible that she felt she should never allow herself to forget. So she would give herself the same nightmare while she was asleep and not attending to her duties. And in case you’re curious, no I am not a Luna fanboy.

[@Redrover1760]

Full Disclaimer: Biased Luna Fan but I'm 100% impartial here trust me :D You cannot critique a character for being overrated, as you have to prove they aren't a well designed character first, so ideally one should start with that. My every word keeps morphing into deep suspicion on instinct after seeing what is here, so I'll keep my comment short. You shouldn't stereotype all Luna fans, as I do not think of Luna as a waifu. I like her character archetype due to personal sympathy and like what was done with her, even if its a bit over the top at times. This is an insult to people who like Luna, not a criticism of Luna's character. List of worst "valid" criticisms of character design over "Overrated": Basic, Trope-following, Uncreative, Boring, Lazy. Obviously not the best made video I see. Try to be more objective next time and understand people can like a character that isn't well designed other than "She ma waifu". There, whether she is any good or not is completely irrelevant to my argument. Lower your guns Luna fans; objectivity has been restored. Your overrated reveal at 11:54 made me laugh so I don't even feel like hitting the dislike button. Thanks for the laughs.

[@MLPSilverQuill]

I applaud your response! It's well composed and thoughtful.

[@zetafish7347]

Late but I agree with this comment. Hating a character and thinking they're overrated for whatever kinds of reasons is simply not a critique like Voice of Reason suggests. There are plenty of characters in plenty of media that I don't like but that doesn't mean they're written poorly as it is just my personal taste. Not liking the character does not make the character themself bad. I feel like Voice of Reason's very aggressive biases are getting in the way of a proper critique here. Luna's reasons for creating the Tantabus are pretty easy to understand, and furthermore it's likely she didn't expect it to become so powerful. Not being able to see that coming is not irresponsible because Luna simply can't see or predict the future. She most likely expected the Tantabus to stay a personal thing. I'll admit that Luna's reasons for becoming Nightmare Moon are a bit flawed, but the fact that she feels so guilty shows how much she cares and how much regret she has that she feels like she needs to do this to herself.

[@sebbee8240]

If you ask me, best princess is Celestia. Don't ask, you probably won't anyway. I personally love her when she's the wise but I also love when she's like not perfect. I really feel sad whenever the fandom bashes on her for being "Cold and heartless". Honestly, there's like no reason to do that. Sure she's not like Luna but say if roles were reversed, trust me, people may like Celestia more.

[@Happymasks]

Celestia has proven time and time again that she will foist the responsibility onto others when she believes that they're better at the job.

[@ItsDaKoolaidDude]

21:20 I'll admit I legit and honestly thought Voice was going to say "no" Prolly my cynicism doing that.

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

As someone with tons of anxiety, abandoment issues, an overthinking problem and some other problems, I can sympathize with Luna in this episode. I have my own tantibus that holds me back and it just refuses to go away no matter how many times I tell myself it's all in my head. I'm far from depressed, I just over think things to the point of making things hard for myself for no reason. I don't see her as an innocent character or anything, just someone I can relate to in so many ways that it just shocking. But I did like that Luna was helped out not by her former enemies turned friends but the fillies who she helped guide. I always saw her becoming Nightmare moon as giving into her loneliness and jealousy of Celestia and this was confirmed in an episode where Luna and Celestia switched roles. Seriously, if you ever dealt with the kind of anxiety and fear of messing up and/or saying something that hurts the people you care about most then you'd understand why this episode is so important. I'm constantly afraid of saying something hurts my friends.

[@itbeem5328]

My nightmare, Sam or Dean Winchester calling me "family." Because EVERYONE knows when you are called "family" That's your death sentence.

[@Rob24Dog]

5:43 Power Ranger Dino Charge cameo of the dino charger?

[@gsamalot]

Huh some how I did not expect that to be dr wolf dream

[@shawngill9286]

+gsamalot i expected something worse

[@Springtime562]

+SHAWN GILL me too

[@masteroflag]

I thought it would just be him being two inches taller.

[@FoxofMaysville]

+gsamalot Who has not dreams of taking over the world in a 'James Bond: Spectre' sort of way. Who knows, maybe Dr. Wolf would make a good overlord.

[@thunderflare59]

+gsamalot Heil, Wolf

[@iidaemii]

Poor AnY.... Seriously Firebrand?? Antony C....REALLY??!!! Eh....Voice??

[@sunshinecrystal2001]

Doc wolf--.... WTAF XD

[@hehhhhhhhh]

When I was younger I never understood this either , but now , I understand Luna so much that she’s now my favourite for many reasons , she’s perfectly Imperfect and she’s so relatable, Luna is so strong and shows that nobody is perfect .

[@MrInpamalam]

luna is the best

[@mr.eazilymctriggered9369]

21:33 ATTACK OF THE FANBOYS!

[@SuperJames526]

8:09 - *YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!* THANK YOU SILVER! YOU ARE NOW CONSIDERED BEST HIPPOGRIFF!

[@AlltheMelvins]

Voice's logic: Luna is bad character because Luna is flawed. But I would respond to that by saying that flawed characters are good because they're realistic and relatable.

[@Speeddemon105]

+Wooden Goods I think his logic is more that Luna isn't a bad character, just being placed on too high on a pedestal for being the "tragic" character despite having rather shallow motivations for falling to the dark side. In fact, I really hate to say it, but it might even be more shallow than Anakin Skywalker. Saving the one you love by doing evil things? Understandable and plays into the trope that love makes you evil. Luna refusing to lower her moon just cause she wants attention? Still understandable from her point of view admittedly, but less sympathetic because it's not even for the sake of another. Sure, Anakin was doing it more for his own sense of self than for her as she voices her disappointment and fear of what he has become, but at least he was TRYING to save her life despite how horrible and shallow he was. Luna just wanted attention. Which is a MUCH easier solved issue in the long run.

[@Speeddemon105]

+GamerMikko So very true. Plus I still think Luna is more likeable than him. I'm just going by motivations and not actions. And I would say that refusing to allow the sun to be used at all would be really bad and cause possible death of others as well, but that would lead to a neverending debate and I don't want people to dislike me for making arguements and comparasions to something that has been flamed by every Star Wars fan under the sun. So I'll end this by saying that I still prefer Luna's character and arc to Anakins and let that be my final opinion.

[@arashiuchiha1591]

+Wooden Goods On the bright side she's not Kylo-Ren. Not looking for a discussion since don't wanna be that ass that spoils TFA but... Yeah.

[@realJoeMavro]

The problem with Luna is that the writers don't know how to do what they're trying to do with her. Megan Mcarthy knows how to handle conflicted characters. She proved that with how she handled Sunset Shimmer in Rainbow Rocks. M.A. Larson handles conflicted characters fairly well in Pennyroyal Academy. If either of them had done this episode, I bet Luna would have been handled more smartly and the story would have made more sense.

[@samanthagarber8747]

Oh silver u never fail to make me laugh

[@sonictoons2087]

19:03 silver quill: well shut my mouth 😂

[@sonictoons2087]

😂

[@sonictoons2087]

10:32 😂

[@sonictoons2087]

13:06 😂

[@doujinloverXD]

Voice of reason and firebrand should form a group called the league of Luna haters.

[@dejaypage1575]

I'm pro both sisters. I see the, as a good equalization. Of course, people seem to forget that Celestial was able to rule alone for 1000 years and all her defeats seem to be more current events...

[@doujinloverXD]

+Dejay Page True, true yes I am also pro both though I love Celestia a little bit more. I did like this episode and I do love Luna just not as much as Celestia. My point is that Voice and Firebrand both seem to dislike Luna so maybe they should discuss that sort of thing together sometime or something, though a dialouge between one person who likes a character and one who doesn't is usually a good line of discussion I found Voice a bit well abrassive during this review.

[@Znegil]

+Casey Clark Well, it would be a very very very small group, but they could :-)

[@doujinloverXD]

+Znegil I'd see it more as a support group where they could vent about Luna without it oozing into their videos as annoying rants. ;3

[@Znegil]

Casey Clark Hmm... nice one. Or maybe a house like in S5E2 with nice speakers installed... "Luna is best princess..." "All hail the moon..." "Blue is your favorite color..."

[@robscott8296]

20:21 popeye the sailor man reference

[@k-dog-g-man2516]

8:24 Silver says grandpa needs his stories

[@lydian1230]

dobby must punish himself for telling.

[@WitherGirlGaming]

I have no idea what you are talking about but as a HP fan I agree.

[@foxlove2284]

Harry Potter congratulations

[@daughter-of-loki1062]

OMFG HARRY POTTER YES.

[@toddweasly4215]

YESSSS THE HARRY POTTER REFERENCES

[@erindennissillery6560]

Rhythm Weasly o

[@attackonponyproductions4927]

2:57 Man the doc is terifying

[@renamon5658]

2:19 why is gilda dressed up as revy from black lagoon?

[@epiccthulu]

I'm sorry. With Luna creating the nightmare to torment herself, it seems like none of you are remembering the phenomena of teens cutting themselves being a cry for help. Luna has essentially been cutting herself in a realm where her sister is useless in, silently seeking penance like an old school Catholic . . .something. Seeing that Luna did this to herself adds depth not just to her character but the world they live in. Instead of hidden razor blades, it is self-inflicted nightmares.

[@mihaiionutbusu-mic1321]

21:38 This is worse than Tantabus

[@jillevers1432]

14:32 you know hearing what you said, I am part of the troll fandom and so far the recent Hulu show is holding back on the Broppy love story. It drives me insane but know the fandom is still hyped and how we show it in fanart and the special Broppy day, I can see your point in the fandom's love for Luna.

[@e2b265]

I kinda wish the Tantibus changed Twilight’s books into quesadillas.

[@James-jy3lh]

YES

[@LWolf12]

I think the problem with Luna being overhyped, and I agree she is overhpyed, is Celestia doesn't get enough time to shine in her own way.

[@deathxanamon7211]

true

[@danseyebrow263]

LUNA IS BEST PONY U SUCK

[@nedegame]

I think that's kinda Ironic, with Luna being the princess of the night and celestia being the princess of the day.

[@catherinefairley3889]

@@danseyebrow263 YOUR RIGHT LETS DESTROY THE LUNA HATERS!

[@catherinefairley3889]

@@danseyebrow263 time to raid twitter and this comment section we should go for live streams too.

[@Infindox]

While you're right, the phrase "overrated" is... well... overused.

[@randombitch4851]

Yes is Luna overrated .bat do think the story was bad? I have seen the episode and I agree!

[@andreamfairchild]

Adele Rose Mannix Manix 8

[@catherinefairley3889]

luna fans attack with replies the luna raid begins!

[@EnchantingWings1]

I think that she created the Tantabus during her time she was trapped in the moon, as a form of self-injury. And as anyone with self-harm problem knows, it takes a long time to overcome the urges when difficult times strike. I think that the episode shows how difficult it is to overcome those kinds of things, and the length of time it takes for someone to overcome said issue. Even though she has shown us that she is a wonderful guide to others, these issues often happen in the background despite the positive steps forward we've made. Overcoming self-harm and self torment does not happen overnight, and Luna is an example of this. And the show does go into those sorts of issues, as it showed Trixie's suicide attempt, Pinkie's hallucinations, Starlight's major anxiety issues, and Twilight's paranoia and where that paranoia led her. The show isn't afraid to show topics on mental health. However much people try to overcome certain coping mechanisms (self-harm, binge eating/restricting, dissociation, etc), they take time. For some, it takes years and we experience relapses. I think what's happened is Luna not sharing her struggles with either the Mane 6 or Celestia, but bottling it up (like Starlight did in All Bottled Up), which could have alleviated some of that struggle and led to Tantabus slowly having less of a hold over Luna, rather than the rushed resolution we got in this episode. I have negative feelings towards the presentation of the issue in the episode, as it took me a while to not be caught up in a self-harm cycle. A single pep talk would never suffice in any situation. I wish they spread this out over several episodes, showing Luna's progress and giving kids and adults understanding of the length of time these things take to overcome. We, as fans, would have loved to have seen steady progression and seeing how her counsel towards the CMC and Starlight has formed. What we got was rushed, and doesn't lend itself to helping anyone understand Luna's wisdom has come from. While making mistakes is a part of it, helping the audience see her on her journey of self-improvement would have added more weight to her counsel, evolved her character throughout the show, and showed her progress on working through her inner demons. Looks like I'll be busy writing this fan-fic!

[@thelonelyauthor2501]

LET US DREAM VOICE! LET. US. DREAM!

[@thebardofshale304]

10:18 Don't let Rainbow play Undertale. Flowey would drive her insane.

[@2vectors708]

Luna didn't know the tantabus could escape her dreams until it did, she had no idea that her self imposed punishment could hurt others And it makes sense that luna would want to punish herself when no one else in the world seemed to

[@nuriao1111]

HOW DARE YOU!!! LUNA IS BEST PRINCESS!!!

[@FoxGirl2003]

YOU MONSTER!!! YOU MAKE LUNA CRY!!!

[@medramonmasquedecendres2966]

Monster Silver look like a Digimon

[@Saiol1000TheCrossover]

medramon masque de cendres Hipogriffmon 😆

[@tylowstar9765]

1:42 the best quotation ever.

[@lunasbest3303]

Listen luna is the best got it and we will never hate her stop being bad and never say that again NEVER OR YOU ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH LUNA FANS AND MEEEE

[@sethmoss1898]

You threatened him with a Gaburevolver? That's supposed to be used against the Deboth Army

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Don't remember the episodes' order but...having Twilight be chased by EEEEVIL quesadillas instead of monster books, that would've been fun.

[@theironcross7557]

anyone wanna hail wolf?

[@Turvlover]

Bob Ross All Hail Wolf best therapist

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian]

No.

[@SEGASister]

1) Amazing review! 2) EEE! I see my boyfriend rainbow-fied~!

[@gutsmasterson2488]

+SEGASister nice new icon

[@MrMovix]

you had a 3) with the gun. what happened to it?

[@SEGASister]

Movix Movix001 Eh. I already did that joke in ATF: MNFBKD

[@thunderflare59]

+SEGASister Now all you have to do is find a way to "take care" of Gilda...

[@SEGASister]

Gian Song yim Apparently this was written before we became a couple.

[@YTBDonDada]

I love this episode because I think it reflects how hard it can be for people to let go of the past so they spend a bunch of time hating there self for it even though they are not the same person anymore.

[@bluedragon-bg9ue]

IM FUCKING TRIGGERED, LUNA IS BEST PRINCESS

[@sakura368]

drop the bass vinyl

[@Double-R-Nothing]

I was drawn to this video by a disturbance in the fandom. What have you done this time, Silver?

[@phantom3289]

get me my minigun its brony analyst season

[@coachlombardi9657]

Phantom_Plays115 You mean Voice of Reason season.

[@RamBeliever]

Voice: Princess Luna, as a character is OVER RATED! me: *Shrieks so loud that the lenses in Voice's glasses crack* WATCH YOUR MOUTH BUB! *faints*

[@catherinefairley3889]

WE MUST FIGHT AND GET RID OF VOICEOFREASON!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Sonic-km7ix]

Silver-filthy rich”SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY”

[@possumcat6070]

HOW DARE YOU CALL LUNA OVERRATED!!!!! Ps:I'm going to find you and ... I you can guess what I'm going to do

[@crescentglow9625]

Well you could call these safe dreams, the dull none interesting ones. I mean if there was a dangerous creature roaming in dreams to make them nightmares do you want it to be a action pack, live free die hard, dream like Rainbow Dash, or would you choose the easy to control dresses, apple, and book dreams. For me if I had any control over it would choose the safe dream. That and the only time I do get nightmares is there’s a dead body anywhere near me.

[@370H-SSV]

3:35 well looks like someone is a baseball fan.

[@fenekafox1843]

omg Dr wolf dreams about being Hitler who could've thought that one but silver himself.

[@JukeDenton]

+Feneka Fox Actually I think he was supposed to be Ernst Stavro Blofeld from the James Bond franchise.

[@thebronywiking]

+JukeDenton Or Dr. Evil from Austin Powers.

[@fenekafox1843]

Meh sounds like Hitler so I'm sticking with it but u can keep ur observation.

[@JukeDenton]

Well techincally, Dr. Evil was a parody of Blofeld so that's why I made the analogy of what I thought Dr. Wolf looked like in the video.

[@thebronywiking]

Yes, but I thought of the fact that they are both doctors.

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