After the Fact: Griffs Galore!

[@MLPSilverQuill]

For anyone worried about voting Team Hippogriff: Please don't feel bad about using the dislike button. You won't hurt myself, the video, or this channel. I'm curious to see how the numbers will tally!

[@Mr.No-One]

It wouldn't be better to make the vote in the comment section or make survey? I see other channels to have a survey in the information icon or that works different?

[@NitroIndigo]

@@Mr.No-One In-video surveys were removed a few months ago.

[@charismaentertainer1657]

Wouldn’t it be smarter to say that your designed like that because you were born via a normal pony and griffin becoming a hybrid, while the hippogriffs haves evolved for generations to look that way?

[@katelynsauceda8727]

I was wondering would you do this for the other non-pony creatures in the series. I really enjoyed this.

[@corrinagaia]

What happens if one of us likes, both of them?

[@patrickbarnard680]

It’s no surprise that Silver isn’t welcomed in Seaquestria, he’s like their version on Jar Jar Binks.

[@RodBeauvex]

Jesus Christ, calm down there, Satan.

[@laurakiner3942]

Okay, that was mean. No one want to be compared to Jar Jar Binks.

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

Despite the ones in mlp looking more like binks

[@KororaPenguin]

@@laurakiner3942 The Clone Wars series at least gave Jar Jar a chance to shine for once.

[@laurakiner3942]

@@KororaPenguin If I remember correctly, in a deleted scene Jar Jar was the one who threw his vote to Palpatine into power where he is before Palpatine runs into Anakin Skywalker pre-Vader. So no he doesn't get any redeeming points.

[@RaphaelRavenwing]

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to receive its warmth." - African proverb.

[@An_Ian]

I love how simple and deep that is accurate to

[@supersonicheroes]

I’m a simple guy. I see Silver Quill has posted a video, I click. He’s always entertaining and informative, a rare and great combo.

[@mintyfresh2357]

SuperSonicHeroes indeed

[@theweirdochannel8735]

@I am Petitgguy I am a person like that!

[@suhanhwang9988]

I'm a simple guy. I see Astolfo. I like.

[@soonamisapphire2425]

Same with me

[@BeesMeliss]

When a GRIFFon and a HippoGRIFF get together, the result is "GriffGriff". XD

The result is either a griffon or a hippogriff because there are only bird front halves. That’s how genetics work, right? :-p

[@setsuki17]

Oh sweet Luna 🙄

[@satanbrony9235]

Why not a Hippo-on? The non-bird halves

[@redneckgaijin]

So now we know who Dexter Griff's parents were. And Sis too. Nobody tell Sarge.

[@maddiekoester7785]

I’m on team GriffGriff!

[@Jack-rf1jy]

"And that's why I ship Gallus and Silverstream" Truly a man of culture

[@nicolefritz6818]

Silver Quill: Starts talking about Ancient Greece Me: *CLASSICAL STUDIES MAJOR KICKS IN*

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

meanwhile people are making firebrand/joshscorcher references

[@nicolefritz6818]

@@BrontoSmilodon1 How dare they. I am the expert in Greece and Rome.

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

@@nicolefritz6818 But you're not brony famous my friend :)P

[@anabia8761]

Gallus is surprisingly colorful for a griffon. Maybe that's why he's outcasted...

[@teddybearkiller5271]

He's part blue bird.

[@kirinbobarcana]

Helps him stand out.

[@bumblecrumble574]

The only reason Gallus was colored more bright than the other Griffins was because Hasbro wanted a more eye-catching color for a character who was going to be important and often seen.

[@williamrendfeld3027]

I refuse to vote down, but I stand with Team Hippogriff.

[@dannicartee]

Same! I love the idea to be in the sky and in the sea!

[@Nebula1701]

Same!

[@craigkellebrww5408]

same

[@northwesternentertainmentc6399]

Same

[@charlesblades2056]

Griffon for life. OC is one as well. Silver Quill is simply THE best reviewer on the fandom. The others lack perspective and experience. My opinion.

[@efug-gx9kh]

20:03 "RUN RUN RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN. YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME. I AM THUNDER BLIGHT!!!" *I died right there* ,🤣

[@tsunsu]

I liked that part

[@pawspets3187]

Yay lightning bliss

[@spectrumscribble1498]

Yeah. But seriously, what did Silver Quill DO to make Bliss chase him in the first place?

[@pawspets3187]

Because he scare her away

[@efug-gx9kh]

@@pawspets3187 Since when??

[@nicolefritz6818]

Silver Quill: "Which is why I ship Silverstream and Gallus" Me: *INCOHERENTLY SCREAMMSSSSS* This is a good video :)

[@Mysticgamer]

I wonder what the kids'll look like?

[@camerondodge2070]

Gallbar all the way.

[@jcj268]

SHIP! SHIP! SHIP!

[@chloenieuwsma4846]

Biased much?

[@MrMarinus18]

G4 really does have a sense of epicness. Equestria feels like a legit country with millions of inhabitants and you have all the different vassal states like the Crystal empire and the various non-pony nations.

[@1tiptip187]

I hated Harry Potter fans for a long time because I loved reading mythology books and everyone assumed I was stealing stuff from Harry Potter. Because so many people assumed not just the hippogriff but a lot of lore came from it first.

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

I can only imagine their faces when they read Tolkiens work

[@mind0fash806]

as someone who grew up reading harry potter, how tf did they thing that? did they thing dragons were harry potter only too??

[@thenerdbeast7375]

I'm glad you touched on the Protoceratops being a possible inspiration for the gryphon.

[@NitroIndigo]

"The griffon became the lord of all beasts." ...Except the aquatic ones.

[@pigifi]

It only covered the land and sky. The sea is a different story.

[@laughinghyena3118]

That’s where the hippocampus came in but then it was only the ruler of the land and the sea Hmmmm OH OH Quick we need to breed a Hippopotamus with a Griffin and a Hippogriff That way we can get the land from the hippogriff The air from the griffin And the water from the hippocampus

[@BeesMeliss]

Griffons come from the mythology of my country. They're definitely and undoubtedly my most favourite mythical creatures!!! ^^

[@zaithehedgewolf4587]

The griffons is part of my family crest the last name Segovia

[@HanaLoose]

*Flutter yay* :))

[@krealyesitisbeta5642]

I legit forgot Grubber’s entire existence.

[@iamdisappointed3445]

I’ve come up with a new name for silver quill “karma magnet”

[@NitroIndigo]

"MMMystery on the Friendship Express" is a weird episode because it has members of other races as a "matter of fact" thing. I'm pretty sure it's the last time we see a mule.

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

wait that was a mule? i thought that was a donkey

[@Sweetroll_Wolfie]

It's great to have ya back, Silver! Sweet and well-thought-out video!

[@kylestubbs8867]

*From the fanfic "We're Eggspecting!":* “Eh, that was easy,” he said with a half-smile, although a little shakiness in his voice told her the truth. “I think I’m ready for something tougher.” She cocked an eyebrow at him. “Oh yeah? How about this word puzzle: what are we supposed to call half-hippogriff, half-griffons?” Gallus thought for a moment. “Okay, hippogriff and griffon both have ‘griff’ in them, right?” She nodded. “One ends with ‘griff,’ and the other starts with ‘griff,’ so there’s a simple way to combine them.” She frowned. Hippogriff? Griffon? Gallus cleared his throat. “And that would be ‘hippogriffon’-” Realization struck her. “Griffgriff!” “What?” “Griffgriff!” she declared and nuzzled her head onto her husband’s talons. “We’re going to call them griffgriffs.” “Sounds good.” He chuckled as his beak met hers. “Then they’ll be our griffgriffs.”

[@katherined]

Silver quill, how many ponies, griffons and hippogriffs have you upset over the years?

[@omegawolfbrony]

The answer to that is one word: yes.

[@tromedlovdrolmai]

How many times is probably the better question

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

All of them

[@leohino9211]

Yes

[@laughinghyena3118]

Uuuuuh *tries the count the Stars in the night sky or all the pine needles on an Evergreen tree* UUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@foxpokemonforever4775]

The name Terramar only just clicked for me. Well played, FiM.

[@brennathelunalastar7013]

This is a list of information I didn’t know existed!! Nice topic, silver.

[@dumdumm3299]

that was so interesting!! i was really glad to see you talk about the flaws of idolatry without making it into “idolatry bad because GOD IS GOOD”. just as you said, idolatry is harmful because it takes away your own merits. it transforms autonomy and willpower into subservience and inaction. when you remove the idol, the worshippers are helpless. i thought that My Little Pony was really unique in the way it told that story, and i’m thankful it didn’t turn into “we got the idol back and now all the griffons are happy again because we’ve restored status quo :)”

[@triccele]

I want to add about Gallus... he's the element of magic (as we saw him shining purple with the Tree), ment to represent that spark that you can't describe that makes you realize you have a friend. He's the embodyment of all those things you can't explain about friendship but you know are true, he's conected with the idea of bonding with others itself. ...also, his name means "chicken", it has nothing to do with anything, I just wanted to point that out.

[@Insanity_101]

Ah I do miss the banters between Silver and Lightning Bliss. It's nice to see you still making videos.

[@DavidSilverGames]

When I realize I put in a grave bit of history for Ponyfinder griffons involving a golden place in the mountains and a grand war and holy wow it fits the origin nicely for having never read it. Yay!

[@wolfgirl2979]

I want to be a hippogriff so I can both fly and swim underwater

[@ferretzim8694]

I've always held a headcannon that after the Idol was lost, various Griffon(Gryphon?) tribes left the kingdom and started competing against eachother for the title of successor kingdom. And one of these kingdoms contain the last remnants of the Grover/Guto line. At the time of the show's finale, this conflict between the nations has mostly settled down, with prince Grover VIII on the throne of one of them. It's probably never going to happen, but it would be interesting if for the next generation they did go properly beyond Equestria. Maybe have some episodes be Equestria based, then some episodes from other nations

[@MrMarinus18]

My headcanon is a little darker. That the gryphon's are violent and selfish by nature and that when the idol was gone they started to fight amongst themselves for leadership. However because of their selfishness no one could climb to the top because as soon as they would start to get ahead they would either but betrayed by one of their own or their enemies would unite against them. this went on until finally almost out of pity Celestia just took over the region. With the entire kingdom in ruins and revaged by endless wars most gryphon's had lost all pride and didn't resist her. Welcoming Celestia's order to put an end to the violence. Eventually, with equestrian might peace did come and after a while the troops retreated. Gryphonstone was promoted from a province to a vassal state. They have regained some level of their pride and not somewhat resent ponies but have no wish to leave equestria has they know the violence that happened.

[@DaylightTwinkle]

Sliver Quill: sliverstream slammed the door shut on his legacy Me: indeed she did lol

[@albussr1589]

"However, I want to clarify that they are much older than Harry Potter" That might be true, but Harry Potter was the best Medium to INTRODUCE the Hippogriff to a young Audience and the rest of the World. Also i like how they are Protrayed in the Movies

[@MrMarinus18]

The added scene in the movie builds on that. They saved Buckbeak so buckbeak saves them.

[@KingUnKaged]

I categorically refuse to dislike a new SilverQuill video, so you're just going to have to take my like and live with not knowing where I stand on the issue! :P

[@olleselin]

I can't help but think the ponies' cockiness is part of what drove Gilda mad

[@futureartist2013]

So who do we call to clean up the Thunder Blight mess? Aeon, Doc or the Rainbow Guards?

[@healerofthewaters6508]

Not letting Silver into the festivities? Pure speciesism, I say!

[@danielsvetlichny5721]

I am glad that you shown clips of one of my favourite animated films of all time, WALL-E.

[@sethcarlow8363]

thanks for the info Silver Quill

[@JWeb66]

I always theorised that Grandpa Gruff was King Guto, after losing the idol he either stepped down or was fired from being king and lived the rest of his life in miserable self-loathing for being responsible for the griffons fall from grace.

[@zzernathezebra]

This was a very helpful video, I'm actually writing a story involving alot of mythos. So this was actually a good first stop for my research into griffins and hippogriffs. Plus it's a SilverQuill video, always entertaining

[@eaglehood224]

I'm already a Gryphon so that was a simple decision.

[@ThunderDashHub]

Griffons are awesome creatures. I've always wondered where they really come from. This was very informative.

[@eshaanreza832]

"I'm hardcore like that." Good line JiJi.

[@RoninCatholic]

Griffin, griffon, and gryphon are all valid spellings. The big difference between the three is I only like the first one, and my opinion is what matters to me on the matter.

[@selectordetector6573]

SilverQuil that video rocked and good job making Lightning Bliss mad enough to turn into Thunder Blight, the fandom hasn't seen her in ages. You always know how to make the cute little alicorn mad and I hope you you continue it for a long time, unless if Thunder Blight and Lightning Bliss team up and steal your color first. Well any way good luck with Thunder Blight because I wouldn't want to be in your claws right now.

[@Kerogoth]

I think one other thing that Gabby had working against her is that she is an exceedingly competent griffon, capable of learning, if not mastering, nearly any task or skill put in front of her. That can make it very hard for Gabby to relate to others, and for others to relate to her. And this goes double for a society like Griffinstone, which was stuck in a cycle of apathy and self-loathing, which would make the griffins want to turn away from someone like Gabby who has everything they believe they don't have. This is no fault of Gabby herself, but it does make her less of an example of what griffins can achieve with a bit of hard work and friends.

[@oakenshadow6763]

I love these lessons! I learn more here than at school. Thank you for sharing this with us. I do wish they had gone with your version.

[@wynnefox]

Poor Gabby. Though I think she is very well fitted for Spike in her nature. Given Spike is such an outsider to dragon society in the exact same ways."

[@davidthetraveler1466]

Awesome, nostalgic, hilarious, and informative, all rolled into one cool vid. Absolutely fantastic job once again.

[@kirinbobarcana]

Gallus is by far, my favorite griffon in the show.

[@TheStarryArcher1213]

Thanks for sharing such interesting lore with us! You're pretty good at making these videos a nice blend of entertaining and educational. Both species are pretty cool in their own right, so I'm not sure which I'd want to pick. I just liked the video because it's awesome. ^_^

[@bumblecrumble574]

This was actually very informative!

[@pigifi]

There are also a couple reasons why Gabby wasn't picked. 1. She has a full time job being the local mail-griffon. The only times she is in Equestria is because she has a delivery there. 2. She's too old like the CMC. If she tried, she would also have been a tutor. As for the contradicting points regarding Grampa Gruff's treatment of Gallus, maybe he thinks all the letters by Gallus delivered by Gabby is enough. He didn't see the need for a parent-teacher meeting as he technically knows everything there is to know and coming over would just be a waste of time. As for why Hippogriffs never helped in the 2017 movie, they got cut out because apparently the writers didn't think that the spotlight on the Mane 6 was already big enough and would think they would "taken the focus from the Mane 6". That's an actual quote from "The Art of My Little Pony: The Movie" book, by the way. So much for friendship. We could have gotten the MLP version of the Ride of the Rohirrim. You can also use that quote to pretty much explain why anyone that is supposed competent suddenly gets hit with the Worf Effect with little to no build-up. Gods and armies are no match for the almighty authority of the Main Character.

[@haldon12]

You are evil for making me choose between liking a good video, or expressing fidelity to the mighty hippogriff! Curse your feathered mein!

[@Nazo-kage]

An interesting thing to consider is the aspect mentioned hear about Gallis not mentioning an idol in his final speech. Which is something that can be said as a good reason for why the young six were never given anything like the elements of harmony. Having something like a necklace with a gem on it that represents whatever element he follows could very well of undermined things as just being another bobble to worship. Another thing to think about is when looking into the aspects of the Griffin it becomes even more of a fantastic outcome when you consider Gilda’s best friend was a pony. The very thing that mythological books say they eat. And finally Gabby Very well might be an outlier but so was thorax and he ended up taking over the changeling hive. Wouldn’t that be interesting if grandpa gruff thanks to his old age was aware of more things than we are made privy to. Like Gaby is shown with Gruff in the hearthswarming episode so he could very well be trying to groom her to be the next ruler of the Griffin kingdom. Just a thought there.

[@cecildesist]

6:39 Astolfo! 🤩 It’s _so_ cool to see a Fate clip in one of your videos. Getting excited over something small? Yes. Having fun with it? Also yes.

[@Thegr8MC]

Griffins in ancient times: Symbols of power, protection and/or wisdom. Venerated with statues and grand tales. Griffins today: Well....Just look them up on e621 and guess for yourself.......

[@MrMarinus18]

Symbols change with the times. Gryphons look really cool without being scary so you can make of that what you want.

[@BBBHuey]

Poor Grubber... How he never remained as Tempest Shadow's best friend and faithful assistant we'll never know ^^;

[@CTStormWingCT]

The shipping will never die

[@BugsyFoga]

Griffs , Griffs everywhere!!!

[@Sonicrunner2010]

Queen Novo threw you in jail for accidentally mooning her? Jeez, what's her _Bismuth?_

[@worthlesstrash9662]

Waaaait, does this mean that the original translation of a griffin is "a hooker"?

[@Djpartypon64]

I wish these creatures existed because for me I would love to see a Griffon in real life. Sadly such dreams shall not come true :(

[@loverofbalto]

I love the hippogripphs sorry Silver-Quill. When I saw Princess Skystar and Silverstream I fell in love with them. Plus as an 80's and 90's kid I gotta say yes to them as they also become sea ponies.

[@sadlobster1]

Speaking of Lightning Bliss, I wonder what she thinks of Gabby the Mail Delivery Gryphon

[@cassiephillips9487]

watch that episode review on fob equestria

[@zeokingsilver]

well Silver Quill you have done it now you mooned the queen

[@shadowpuppet8192]

I think it would be pretty cool to be a hippocampus, actually!

[@ZionKraze]

You saved Grubber... You really are a monster. And Team Griffon.

[@mlynnjohnson6140]

Awesome 👍 work Quill can't wait to see more in the future ☺️👍♥️

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Griffs are certainly interesting and or fascinating creatures!!!

[@BeesMeliss]

They're my favourite! ^^

[@MrMarinus18]

Griphons are mostly a combination of majestic animals. They are not based on protoceratops since those did not live in Europe. They didn't even live in China at the time since the Gobi desert would not become part of China until the Ming dynasty. The Cyclops is based on ancient creatures though but they are based on mammoth which did live in Europe. Mammoths had very small eyes and no real clear eye sockets. However they did have a massive oval shaped hole in the middle of their skull where the trunk attaches.

[@ShanaReviews]

It would have been a fun shout out to Deep Space 9 if the MLP staff had given Griffins a set of rules they associate when interacting with obtaining wealth or currency, much like how the Ferengi had over 268 rules of Aquisition. I also bring this up because i recognize some similarities between Gallus and Nog, both come from a race well known for placing importance and value on materialistic objects, griffins to gold ferengi to latnum, but both went beyond that and grew to be more than what others of their race have been assocoated with, Gallus became a royal guard to Twilight and Nog became Captain within Starfleet. Both also have relatives, blood related or otherwise, who have been known for being hard to get along with, Grandpa Gruff for Gallus and Quark for Nog

[@Yenastuundepaspris55]

What's the anime being referenced several time in this video ? I don't see it in the Description.

[@DuckDecoy13]

18:51 did you just make fun of the equestrian guards that Firebrand has to deal with on a daily basis at the secret forward operating base there

[@AubriGryphon]

Hmmm... I might have to ponder that question for a while.

[@Mysteriouscommebtor]

11:35 Hey! A fellow GallusStream shipper! Like this comment if you’re also GallusStream shipper

[@LoveChickadee]

Griffon all the way!! Thanks for teaching me so much Silver!!

[@Spacebun236]

I like the line “Make way! For I was a hippogriff before it was cool!” It’s my favorite in that intro.

[@adamcheck4941]

In the movie when Twilight thought Celestia meant Hippopotamus when she couldn't finish the word when she was talking to Luna is really insulting to her character being that she is intelligent and very well read so she would no doubt known what a hippogriff is

[@nigelxd3735]

my boy Astolfo sure appeared a lot today

[@MuffinHunterX]

"That Guy" moment incoming. The expression should be " The exception that _tests_ the rule." If you think about it proves make zero sense.

[@MuffinHunterX]

Anyway could you imagine the horror if we had real-life veried griffons? Half house cat-half seagull? No one's food would be safe.

[@Astral_inkwell]

Great video Silver I’d definitely be a griffin and I also ship Gallus with Silverstream ❤️

[@justinbell2166]

Interesting video to learn from, though I was mostly wondering on what I missed over these couple years

[@maddiekoester7785]

I am on both teams, I shall be the first Griff-Griff!

[@sonicgen20]

I'm very proud that Gallus became a royal guard.

[@JasmineSwantek]

SO, Gabby is the griffon version of Thorax?

[@concordiaharmony2302]

Honestly rewatching this on behalf of the Gryphon hero coming to for honor soon ^^

[@MLPSilverQuill]

For Honor? The video game?

[@concordiaharmony2302]

@@MLPSilverQuill mhm. ^^ the idea is that it's a hero of multiple factions, like how the Griffon is a hybrid monster itself.

[@DaylightTwinkle]

9:32 and that’s why fillies and gentlecolts....you don’t mess with blissy

[@ugly-duckling123]

17:11 My guess... it's because she's a girl, and Grandpa Gruff seems to be one of those 'people' who think that boys should come first

[@thecrapnest6346]

9:43 Things went from zero to ten in a matter of seconds MAN!

[@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639]

Go! Go! Gryffindor! Go! Go! Gryffindor!

[@kiorili]

19:56 why i'm not surprised ?

[@wilyserpent]

Loved this video! Could you also do one on pegasi?

[@JakeTheArmyGuy]

I was today years old when I learned that Gallus is the scientific name for a chicken. Well played, MLP.

[@zaithehedgewolf4587]

My family crest has the griffin been part of my family for long time

[@dustincompton992]

Oh, Team Griffin, definitely. Mostly because one of my favorite characters is one. Skandranon, the Black Gryphon. He’s a special forces soldier/mage who fights against his world’s Nazi-equivalents. Of course by the end of his first book he kinda accidentally made a kaboom so big it almost destroyed everything... and due the nature of the boom it managed to echo back thousands of years later to threaten everything again. So yes, you CAN make something explode twice!

[@lt_darkseekerantique3911]

Ohhh,so that’s the difference between a Griffin and a Gryphon. 7:05 sooooo......the horse rolls a constitution save? 9:04 because the studio ran out of Budget?

[@shannonrhoads7099]

But what if we're Team Earth Pony? Asking for a friend...

[@camerondodge2070]

Much as I hate to dislike any of Silver's videos, Team Hippogriff.

[@beadedwolf22]

I'm all for Team Hippogriff! Another wonderful and interesting video, Silverquill!

[@felixw19]

18:28 you got me! Now I want to see the 360 top Bic Macintosh ships