Breaking Down the Biggest Calls From Matchday 5!

[@beanbag_VEVO]

Who would have thought using scab refs would result in bad reffing. NEGOTIATE WITH THE REF UNION, MLS

[@evanelliott9880]

Dude yes…I was at the Columbus Crew game and the refs were ATROCIOUS, and that clearly wasn’t the only game with horrible refereeing

[@shayEspinoza]

Wrong these refs are way better

[@IAMTHEGOONYT]

PRO reffing is just about as bad to be fair. MLS has always had horrible officiating.

[@2DaBeatMaker]

No sports league does this and does it so honestly. I'm liking what I see from the MLS so far.

[@shrimpwithagun5702]

Discovered MLS just the other day and I’m addicted!

[@Zavier_Paz]

FAX THO

[@Zavier_Paz]

@igorvrandmore I’ve supported the whitecaps for so long and I just started watching them again

[@bpizzle28716]

@igorvrandmorefrom columbus and i support the crew

[@andrewrives]

liar

[@Footyshorts923]

Imagine not knowing what MLS is💀💀💀💀💀

[@teto1012]

Referee’s favoring Miami what a surprise

[@CGxFBeditzofficial]

It’s cool how the mls does these extra stuff like this. Imagine if the prem or la liga did this, refs would be cooked.

[@jacobcriss5624]

MLS does this to specifically defend the referees (especially given the labor disputes). This is not objective outside media. Wait until a truly contentious decision is made that materially impacts the result of a meaningful match, Instant Replay will *always* side with the referee in that instance.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

@@jacobcriss5624There's definitely a big bias, but I wouldn't say they *always* side with the referee in big & close matches.

[@MrCho14]

@@ianbrudnakvoss3126 So much of soccer is a judgement call so it's easy to disagree but explain why the call was okay. What you don't see is any mention of the really bad decisions on the field. You only see the plays they want to present and discuss.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

@@MrCho14I feel like this video alone disproves your point, but, like you said, it's all subjective. I think one of the best things about Instant Replay is that it facilitates these conversations--this show wouldn't be the same if not for the comments discussing the calls and pointing out incidents that weren't covered

[@mrdeeds72]

So Montreal robbed

[@pozettedozette]

Indeed!!

[@geniuss85]

Montréal got f%$ed

[@cedrikpelletier5735]

How did they missed that offside goal.... They should check automatically after a goal if the play was onside.

[@franghan]

He didnt even bring up how the 3 goal came from a ghost corner. And how on the last goal there was an illegal throw in, as the player had one foot in the field of play.

[@mssween]

@@franghan They dont call illegal throws anymore. Just go to minute 2 in Miami's first game. Me$$i clearly lifts his foot on the throwin and nothing is called

[@MichaelWalker-wu2pq]

Montreal really did. A great start for this team so far this season and this game should have been another win.

[@baxtronx5972]

Mbappe was the ref.

[@communenirondelle549]

Horrible refereeing in the Montreal game

[@BPaulthegreat]

Good to see the league kinda recognizing Montréal got f*cked over, but Courtois will still get fined for his rightful comments, and the points are still gone

[@marcoaceves7649]

They were still up 2-0 they should have finished the game regardless

[@dgh6g33gf]

@@marcoaceves7649Well then im sure you won't mind your team getting an unlawful red card next time they are up 2 goals right?

[@marcoaceves7649]

@@dgh6g33gf my team can’t finish anything. They’ll be up by 2 and then give up 4 in the last 15 mins

[@FXH02]

@@marcoaceves7649Nashville? 😂

[@marcoaceves7649]

@@FXH02 worse... Chicago

[@seattlepro7]

Would have been funny if you showed the red to Ruidiaz (on the bench!) that was rescinded. His reaction was priceless 😂

[@alero77]

Terrible calls all in favor of Chicago... AND 22 minutes of stoppage time... Despicable.

[@MrCho14]

You're going to see a lot more games with that much stoppage time given the number of VAR interventions occurring with these referees.

[@Not_a_smart_man]

The fans who claim to not see any difference between the regular and replacement refs, I’d like to hear them after this week.

[@DrDisemb0wel]

There have been some pretty horrendous regular refs, but the overall quality with the scabs is definitely lower

[@newguyiswinning]

Sooo MTL v CHI was completely butchered by terrible refs and MTL got the short end of the stick, got it

[@ericbermudez3328]

Replacement refs being ass? Who would've thought?

[@ImblueDabadeeDabada]

It's nice that an MLS employee recognize that Montreal got robbed, but it doesn't change the fact that MLS should perform an investigation and remove the referees (scab or not) from any future games of the 2 teams involved whenever they bend the result of a match to this extent.

[@jhayemdoubleyou]

Stayed away from the absolute shitstorm in Atlanta. Good choice. Don't want to show why the league needs to settle with PRO/referees.

[@Monk018_CS]

1:20 is clearly just the natural action of the arm in the slide. The rule states, "A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation", this is just the result of the goalkeeper's movement. Same exact situation as the no-call at 3:56.

[@christopherrupp1226]

these two examples are completely different in my book. I believe a natural position for a tackle is when your arms are on your sides or if you have one arm on the ground as support. The position Chicago's GK had was nothing natural. Look at how tackles are normally done and you will see that this position is not natural and makes the GK bigger

[@Monk018_CS]

@@christopherrupp1226I challenge you to slide, while keeping your arms pinned to your side. In the opinion of this referee, I agree with the no-call. But, I could also understand a referee making the call.

[@daniellizotte6110]

at 1:20

[@Targaff]

Not to mention that stating that players "take the risk in their arm position", is a misrepresentation of what the rule actually says: the risk is not that it will hit their arm/hand but that it will do so AND that they will be penalized for it. This is by no means the first time Wiebe's shown how shaky his handle on the law is, either - he did it last year with the Paes red card for DOGSO against St Louis as well. This whole section of the laws is preceded by the qualifying phrase that "Not every touch of a player's hand/arm with the ball is an offence," and it exists precisely to prevent bad decisions on the pitch and bad armchair analysis.

[@thanhnguyentruong32]

Montréal deserved better fs

[@brianscholz339]

Playing advantage and administering a caution at next stoppage of play is generally acceptable. Both CRs did well to keep play moving then administer the sanction.

[@johnmcgimpsey1825]

Absolutely! As long as the player that is getting the second caution doesn't go on to take part in the play after the advantage, why would you disadvantage the fouled team? My only problem as a ref (at a *much* lower level) is occasionally losing track of who should get the card if the advantage plays out for a while.

[@MrCho14]

I wouldn't say it's 'generally acceptable'. It's actually how referees at all levels are trained and how it is expected to happen. A referee who takes away a promising attack gets dinged in their assessment.

[@DrDisemb0wel]

On the other hand though, a set piece with one less defender could also be a greater advantage. Usually the infraction would bring one of your teammates out of play as well, but a set piece would have them available

[@SFXDreamer]

League referee here, de rules state: "Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play, violent conduct or a second cautionable offence unless there is a clear opportunity to score a goal." I don't see a clear opportunity in the Seattle game @5:35 so the ref should have stopped the game and issue a red card (2nd yellow).

[@MrCho14]

@@DrDisemb0wel Sorry. Not even close. A run of play advantage and sending the player off once that is over is much better than being one player up on a set piece from 40 yards away. This isn't hockey.

[@Crazysurferdude]

Nothing from the Atlanta United game where Xande Silva got dragged down by the neck when the play wasn't even live?

[@mssween]

My take away? No more scabs.

[@thanhnguyentruong32]

pay real refs pls

[@douglasharley2440]

these refs are 3x better than the other ones.

[@HunterVRGT1]

@@douglasharley2440 for the trash...

[@douglasharley2440]

@@HunterVRGT1 lol, you must have a very short attention span!...go back and watch one of these episodes from last year, and you'll see far more egregious errors, and more inconsistency overall. i watch 2-3 mls matches every week, since the 1990s.

[@RidiculousReefing]

Charlotte got robbed

[@matthewhayes4194]

Wiebe, it's too bad you can't mention the fact that these are replacement refs working due to a labor lockout by MLS.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

I get you, but it would get tiring hearing him mention it every week. Ideally he'd clarify on MD1 and then the audience should know, but then again most viewers should've heard about it anyways, so it's not that imperative

[@kidbrown2010]

The scab referees are getting worse by the week.

[@PAAKWAMEPAA]

Great analysis

[@harley.digital]

was there no VAR for montreal's game?

[@MrCho14]

Did you watch the segment? Multiple times it was mentioned that VAR was used to come up with the calls for that game. PK, red.....

[@monsieurdegaulle1243]

The referee did look at the replay for some of theses plays, which is why it is even more suspicious that the referee made all these bad calls (all in favor of Chicago).

[@andytretten]

When Edwards throws an elbow at about 2:10 in that clip, why isn't that a PK? What am I missing in the laws here? Seems like striking to me which should be a DFK (or a PK in the penalty area). Also, PAY THE REFS!!!!

[@maxklapacz6952]

It was awarded as a PK

[@andytretten]

@@maxklapacz6952 Oh, ok. Thanks. Webe didn't say that and I was too lazy to go check the game log.

[@purpluxed]

showed nothing from atlanta??? little suspicious if you ask me

[@Cthulhu3C]

Scab refs are killing the league right now.

[@brandonadams7837]

Attendance is up and Apple TV says otherwise.

[@luismunoz995]

Montreal should have won. Poor refereeing

[@Cthulhu3C]

For the first DC non-pk, it shouldn’t matter if he could’ve gotten the ball. Foul’s a foul.

[@willn703]

Yeah and that probably gets called anywhere else on the field and thus should definitely be called in the box.

[@keeperMLT]

Pay the refs!

[@spacepants3]

3:52 “The arm is by his side . . . To me, an arm down to the side of his body and not outstretched, that’s a natural position.” I agree. However, you did not apply that same logic in Houston’s game against SKC in the playoffs last season. Have you changed your mind or is this your agenda coming to light? If it’s the latter, then from all of us in Houston, consider my middle fingers outstretched and in an unnatural position in your direction.

[@goozerdog]

Well done 😂

[@dozyproductionss]

busquetes is a dirty player lol. Sometimes subtle and other times its obvious but, he's a big name so is given a pass by fans.

[@TC7WarThunder]

I’ve never seen wiebe disagree with the officals more, these replacement refs are not it😭

[@mickjf]

I think your breakdown at 2:25 misses that the player is in an offside position at the time of the kick. Had he got to the ball he would have been called offside. Therefore a penalty would have been the wrong call.

[@diegoturcios133]

Sooooo them not going over the 2 and 3rd goals for St Louis clearly lets me know MLS thinks the refs fucked up. If not at least the third St Louis goal should’ve been reviewed because he clearly makes contact with McCarthy inside the box it should’ve been a foul on the GK. Second game Galaxy have been robbed of three points

[@shmooveyea]

That last Galaxy play was cynical. Suarez in world cup-esq. He should get a multiple game suspension

[@furryblumpkin]

FAIR PAY IS FAIR PLAY. NEGOTIATE AND STOP USING SCABS.

[@Tdieo1]

No review of the kickout foul from Austin that wasn't whistled?

[@zachdeckerd5468]

Man I can't stand Sergio Busquets in MLS.

[@SubmachineOP]

Wheres Duncan Mcguires foul vs Atlanta United? That should have been a STRAIGHT red instead of a yellow and it didnt even go to VAR. He grabbed someone by the arm and then neck and Slapped him. Intentional Face contact is a instant red card. Conveniently atlanta still won

[@Sounder74]

Was Josh Atencios' first yellow a cardable offense? No! Don't show it, though.. keep those paychecks comin mls

[@totalEPICness88]

Goalkeeper handball would not be handball in the premier league. Trailing arms when sliding are considered normal now, and not extending your body.

[@totalEPICness88]

Chicago Fire offside no call was the correct one. Miami got no penalty because the dude was already offside.

[@totalEPICness88]

Also, dude, announcer in this video, the referees should always play advantage, unless it’s a STRAIGHT RED FAR AWAY FROM GOAL. You’re part of the problem if you think the second yellow should’ve come out right away. What if they were on a break on the counter with a numbers advantage and still kept the ball and advantage. It’s doesn’t matter what the score is, it’s the Referees job to be consistent, no matter what the situation. You’re not a Ref dude, get some league official to help you on these videos.

[@totalEPICness88]

The one where the dude was offside, and the goalkeeper blocked the cross to him, therefore taking the keeper out of play, and therefore making the offside player to cause the goalkeeper to interact with him, if if not physically. Definitely could’ve been called offside as goalkeeper interference.

[@toniela]

Dajomé was offside

[@tannerlong6014]

Why do you think that the team being fouled should be punished with not having the ability to play an advantage just because the person committing the foul is going to be sent off with a second yellow? That seems silly. There's nothing in the book about that and by all accounts should not be treated any differently than a normal advantage. punish the victim? that's crazy lol

[@MichaelWalker-wu2pq]

Andrew Wiebe, why not discuss the Atlanta United game in any way? Xande Silva was recklessly dragged down by the neck and the ref did not issue a red card even with the replay of the vicious foul.

[@brandonadams7837]

Reckless means yellow. If you wanted a red, you should describe it as violent. Using your own words, the yellow was correct. Wiebe is a league employee and during this lockout they are not trying to make the replacement refs look bad since it would hurt their own bargaining leverage. Same with Apple TV announcers during games.

[@MichaelWalker-wu2pq]

@brandonadams7837 ok, I don't know all the legalese sir. Not here to go over technicalities. Yanking someone down by the neck is extraordinarily dangerous and he should have been given a red card.

[@brandonadams7837]

@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq I don’t disagree it should have been red. The LOTG aren’t very long and free to read on IFAB website.

[@Pozzoy]

This guy in Chicago- Montreal game shouldn't be allowed to referee anymore games, ever, or be allowed anywhere near a football pitch.This is a joke. I'm Croatian, I know a corrupted or just completely incompetent referee when I see one. The guy destroyed the game

[@SirZigei]

MLS is using replacement refs due to contract negotiations.

[@Jamy_25]

@@SirZigeiit's not an excuse for a ref to be lame

[@Qandocru]

Disagree with the guy slowing down and drawing the penalty, penalty should go against him in that case. If that's wrong by rule then I disagree with the rule.

[@MrCho14]

Chicago potential offside: There's a better angle in the highlights. While I still think there's a very good chance he's off, it's so close that the call on the field should stand. DC potential PK: There's also a good chance that he's offside so the hold doesn't matter. It's hard to stop on the kickpoint in this video. As with above, maybe too close to overturn, but can't really tell with what was shown. CLT potential PK: Attacker wasn't playing the ball right before that and took the back and forth pushing a little too far. Enough for a foul on the attacker? Close. Seattle 2nd yellow and the other one: You're 100% wrong on what you'd like to see. You should be looking for places to praise these referees. They did a good job of allowing the advantage and going back to card. That's taught at all levels and what should happen. I'm actually very amazed you would take this stance. I'm disappointed.

[@daniel-by9xs]

Can you go to var to review for dogso

[@MrCho14]

VAR can recommend an on field review for DOGSO. ("go to var" is a misleading question as it's VAR who recommends a review; not the referee asking VAR to look at it. VAR looks at everything. Only certain things can they recommend being changed.)

[@13OMR]

to bad this show is recorded on sunday, otherwise there was like 5 different red cards orlando shoould have been given for legit fouls.

[@monsieurpppoopoocheck8891]

So everything for Montreal was fair but everything for Chicago wasn’t… hm

[@TrentSoccerGames]

I think he's right he explained it

[@daniellizotte6110]

It can be the case in a game of football sometimes, and the two called pens for Montreal looked like pretty spot on pens, the calls in favor of Chicago however, maybe 1 or 2 big calls where not wrong but lets say a lot of big calls that went Chicago's way where flat out wrong and VAR should have been more used and looked at to correct some of the desisions that where flat out wrong, that went Chicago's way. In the end it ended up affecting the result in a big way which is why a lot of people specifically Montreal fans are mad about it, that and the fact they had the game in the bag and should of had the game even more in the bag with that Brady red card that was not called, that would of had a huge effect on the game, even for the final 20 minutes when Montreal played down a man due to Edwards red card.

[@socialdulafo7172]

So... you're that kind of fan who thinks that if your team got 3 yellow cards, then the other team must get the next yellow card no matter what happens?

[@Bannunn]

MLS fans are going to have to get used to Inter Miami receiving preferential treatment from the referees. I mean, how would it look if they lost with that stacked roster?

[@aerondight3029]

Mommy's calling! Time to come out of the basement for once wittle baby! It'll be OK wittle one! 🤗

[@JackRobinson14]

Taylor Twellman is such a clown for saying that was a clear hand ball on Aviles

[@noahtalley4351]

Do not see how you can punish the Chicago Goalkeeper or the Inter Miami defender! Both were trying to kick the ball and get a touch before they accidentally touch it with their hand. Both were in a natural motion!

[@daniellizotte6110]

Was still denial of a goal scoring opportunity with a part of the body that is not supposed to be used in soccer. Its either the arm does not touch it and this ends up a goal, or the arm touches it and it ends a red card because without the arm that is not supposed to touch the ball 85 % sure that ends up as a goal, you dont just get to deny a goal like that with your arm and avoid a red card because it was in a natural position, that would be cheating in a way because in soccer the arm is not supposed to be even there or a part of the game. The rule for the arm in a natural position or not is when it does not deny a clear goalscoring opportunity I think, in this case it clearly does deny a goal scoring opportunity, and a situation that 85% of the time ends up as a goal. Denial of goalscoring opportunity in such a blatant case like this trumps, natural position of the arm or not, I think.

[@nathanc8478]

Third one, no red card. The ball was stopped from the leg and was going to bounce upwards. The attacking player was beyond the point where it could be considered DOGSO so it is not reviewable since no red card could possibly be thought of here by anyone who knows the laws of soccer. Fifth one, a player in an offside position cannot be awarded a penalty for being fouled. Dajome was offside on that kick. Sixth one, you say that defenders are taking risks with their actions and could be punished when you thought the GK on the third one should have seen red but here you say that the Miami defenders handball was incidental by the actions taken by the defender, negating the thought that defenders take risks by their actions. I agree with you on this one and you should have been saying the same thing for the GK one, but it shows the inconsistency in your choices of who to punish and who not to when you think the GK one is a problem and this one is not.

[@daniellizotte6110]

Third one, no red card. The ball was stopped from the leg and was going to bounce upwards. The attacking player was beyond the point where it could be considered DOGSO so it is not reviewable since no red card could possibly be thought of here by anyone who knows the laws of soccer.: No Cocarro could of easily curved his run and arrived before the defender, 85% chance that ends up in a goal, the ball was not going that wide and Coccaro was not going that fast, and was not that out of control that he would not have made it too the ball before the defender arrived and cleared the danger.

[@nathanc8478]

@@daniellizotte6110 no. He had already run past and was already raising his head in his missed shot. The ball was bouncing straight up (behind him) and not backwards toward him.

[@daniellizotte6110]

@@nathanc8478 He was running at a similar speed as the ball even after the initial deflection with the legs, the reason he runs past the ball is because the ball is slowed down and sent in anhother direction backwards, by the hand ball, take away the hand ball that slows the ball down and sends it in the other direction and he gets to the ball easily, as he only has to modify his run a tinsy bit to the side,as the ball only gets deflected a tintsy bit to the side after the first leg deflection and is still going pretty fast, and at a pretty good speed.

[@nathanc8478]

@@daniellizotte6110 the attacker was PAST the ball when is hit the hand. He was even starting to look up in disappointment at that time too. There is no way he was getting to that ball. All of that is besides the point that is was incidental contact.

[@daniellizotte6110]

@@nathanc8478 Look at 1:19 lol he is not passed the ball and note that that was when the ball already started slowing down quite a bit it was already making contact with the hand, if it does not make contact with the hand he is even more behind the ball at this moment, and even supposedly he was a bit behind which was not the case, he slows his run down gets to the ball and score easily regardless without the defenders being able to come back or put themselves in a good position to block the shot or defend him, big chance it ends up in a goal in that case but that was not even the case here, the ball would of been infront of him had it not touched the keepers hand, to the side a bit maybe but in front of him. If you freeze it at 1:19 it says everything.

[@jacobcriss5624]

Where’s the coverage of an Orlando player clotheslining Xande Silva?

[@DogeLeague]

Just get rid the VAR. what’s the point if the var refs can’t even make a correct call with clear evidence.

[@sonofpan]

You can't see Ring's arm from the blurry AF video still. It would be nice if they actually showed a replay of that moment. Thanks for trying to do though. (I am not being sarcastic here. Actually, thanks for trying to show it.)

[@jeremyrunning63]

I love this series and I learn so much from every compilation each week. However the quality could really improve if Andrew used a better microphone in a sound-proof space. The clipping and reverb of the commentary is really distracting.

[@ArgonWolf1]

Please, MLS, I'm begging you, please make this a 2 hander show again. Weibe is fine, but this show was so much better back in 2022 when it was Weibe and Daives bouncing off of each other. I'd even have less reviews if it meant more in depth discussion.

[@DxD93]

Miami is just disgusting club is allowed to break rules

[@BairesCARP33]

Miami doesn't break the rules, it's crappy officiating with all these replacement refs

[@AbedCruz]

Is Miami the only club in this video benefiting from ref's blunders? What i find disgusting here is your dishonest and hateful opinion. When other clubs benefit from them, it's just random mistakes. But it becomes rigged when Miami does. You should be grateful to have Miami in this league. Thanks to them, viewers from all over the globe are now interested in the MLS.

[@aerondight3029]

Aw you poor wittle baby 🤗

[@prozombie6768]

Wow mls calling out these bad calls. I’m shocked lol

[@MrCho14]

They basically just take subjective calls and disagree with them while saying they understand why it was called that way. At the same time, they 100% ignore discussing horrible calls which need to be addressed.

[@Crazysurferdude]

Sucks when you kill your credibility in one of the first clips. No way that's a hand ball on the goal keeper. He moved it out of the line of fire and by a random bounce it hit is arm trailing him. Not a hand ball and not DOGSO.

[@Brother_Miller]

So… the replacements are doing a good job…? Heck yeah they are. Sorry to Montreal, but many teams got royally screwed last year as well. Thanks for the breakdown Wiebe.

[@letti4285]

hell no you havent been watching the games. the refs are clearly inexperienced and its showing

[@alexweinberg7659]

In the Inter Miami game the referee made the right decision, because there were a couple of DC players offside

[@mcid.]

None interfered in that play so that's moot IMHO. Clear pen and I think the handball pk on Avila should also been given

[@MrCho14]

The only one that would matter is the one who played the ball. The others used to matter, but that hasn't been the case for many years. That said, I believe the fouled player who had the play on the ball could be offside but other angles and a good kick point would be needed to really say.

[@tilen.radovcic]

50 like

[@weatherfan1925]

Wiebe is wrong as always.

[@benjiraphael-ne6we]

Dc got robed

[@Fantastik7777]

Hello

[@speedyterrapin3442]

gotta get this guy a new mic. voice quality IS AWFUL. painful to listen to

[@MrCho14]

No problem for me to hear him. It's almost like it's a youtube thing how some people complain about certain videos while others have no problem and the other way around.

[@AbsoluteNut1]

3:00 offside. No hold.