UFC 285 Reaction: Ariel Helwani ‘Blown Away’ by Jon Jones | The MMA Hour

Ariel Helwani wraps up UFC 285 and the memorable wins by Jon Jones, Alexa Grasso, and more. The team also discusses Ciryl Gane's lopsided loss and whether he was rushed to the top of the division, predictions for Jones vs. Stipe Miocic, whether or not Jon Jones vs. Francis Ngannou will ever happen and the disrespect to Ngannou's legacy and skillset, Alexa Grasso's win over Valentina Shevchenko, the potential for an immediate rematch, Shavkhat Rakhmonov's future in the UFC, and more.
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[@trevorcovey5365]

it’s crazy that some people saw jon fight for the first time saturday lol

[@sknockout]

You’d think Ariel saw him fight for the first time the way he was dismissing him

[@ramonbriones4487]

​@@sknockout he hates him lol

[@mohammadzaman1225]

That’s me 🙋‍♂️

[@Rick-bi9fw]

​@ramonbriones4487 I don't think he hates anyone besides dana brendan and now paddy

[@BowlOfLifeNutrition]

Seriously 😁

[@Santoroz]

When Jon started slapping himself, I knew Gane was in trouble.

[@2ClutchCorey]

Literally tho 😂 got that ‘the goat is back’ feel real quick

[@PresidentEvil]

I was thinking the same thing 🤣

[@stephenday5320]

That was the only beating he took

[@m.a6141]

What ped? USADA are the one that said he was guilty and after that said he is innocent and the amount in his body aren't giving him any advantage. so why we don't believe USADA when the clear fighter name. And the rules of usada have change and the amount that JBJ had are not a problem any more. And for GSP argument.. he never tested by usada and his body look like of someone who use steroids. ask Chael next time and hear what he saying about GSP and steroids

[@BowlOfLifeNutrition]

😁 I Feel You

[@sportsfan_913]

Dare I say that was the best week of Jon Jones career? All week he shined. He seemed like a new man enjoying life to the fullest. Then he goes out there & does THAT? In a new division? Unbelievable. Truly.

[@MrTaggeN99]

I still believe his capture of the LHW belt was the best week of his fighting career. But this is a close 2nd, if one doesn't know that story I highly recommend watching/reading about it.

[@Rowsy91]

Guy became the face of the UFC just like that 2nd highest paid guy after McGregor i believe and definitely the face of the HW div I think people already forgot how to even spell Ngannous name hes such old news lol

[@StuffAndMemes]

Not really, doesn’t change the fact that he’s on roids and hits hit wife

[@MrTaggeN99]

@@StuffAndMemes Totally true, still his performance is impressive, and do believe me I care not one bit for Jon Jones the person he should probably be in jail or doing community service. But the rich and powerful aren't treated the same.

[@jesseedelman5736]

thats facts

[@johnmcbane1016]

The newer fans had to see it....he is the most complete fighter ever but on top of that he has mental strength & fight IQ that is second to no one. His problems outside of the octagon are the only thing that has kept it a "conversation."

[@michaelsullivan4566]

@@christopheryuda4029 word

[@adesanyasrighttit8791]

@@christopheryuda4029 Fr don’t know why people became so sensitive about slapping a hoe around. Used to be common practice

[@hundohan3280]

Props to him but there’s a reason you don’t hear him calling out pavlovich and Curtis blaydes and others. Gotta go on a clean run to be the goat. The previous roids don’t count but this is a good start

[@YORKIEBOY123]

​@@christopheryuda4029Who beats women? Jones?

[@lollol-vf1ci]

​@Hundohan he wanted to fight the top 3 ranked heavyweights lol he probably doesn't have much time left in the sport so why would he go for lower ranked fighters who don't have as much recognition? Francis who was the champion but left the ufc and then stipe most title defenses who wasn't available to fight yet so the best thing was Gane. You look like a hater man other than his outside troubles and the ped problems no one has done what he's done

[@REH86]

It's crazy to think Valentina shouldn't get an immediate rematch. She's been a dominant champion, active, and was *winning* the fight until she got caught. She absolutely deserves the rematch.

[@goodfellas1001]

She was getting pieced up this fight. She does deserve a rematch but there were holes in her game in this fight.

[@REH86]

@@goodfellas1001 Of course she wasn't having a perfect performance. I don't think anybody would claim that. However, she was absolutely winning the fight up until she got caught in a rnc that she couldn't escape.

[@DoubleD144]

She didn't look dominant in this fight. Grass looked as good or even better with her hands. She deserves a rematch though for sure

[@henrisheridan7787]

@@goodfellas1001 @Robert Valentina was up 2-1 on Judges scorecards before the choke - she was winning - but she was also taking quite a bit of damage & prob was up on points due to her takedowns

[@donsq4306]

MMA is a crazy sport 1 loss Will make fans turn against you. This is why some fighters try to market themselves. Once fans love you it does not matter.

[@The_RealDon]

Now imagine what he would do to Izzy lol

[@iamjp1]

izzy was smart to duck that one lol jones would've mauled him

[@stevenmishos]

I'd like to see Colby vs Shavkat, but Colby needs somebody he can verbally spar with in the lead-up so I'd prefer Colby vs Khamzat.

[@Rick-bi9fw]

Colby is going to avoid Shavkat at all cost. 😆 people thinking colby is this guy that will tale on anyone is laughable. He only fought usmam because he had the belt amd you get paid more.

[@bingle12765]

@@Rick-bi9fw I agree Colby is too cautious when it comes to his career he isn’t a total out and out fighter that will fight anyone, He picks and chooses his opponents

[@Rick-bi9fw]

@@bingle12765 100% he was asking for poirier who started at 145. It's literally embarrassing seeing him talk about guys wife that started his career at 145 and can't stop takedown at 155. Colby is a joke.

[@emanuelsantos5925]

Man, Colby is my favorite fighter and he's an elite fighter but he must fight those top guys with winning records.

[@bplayerr1]

​@@Rick-bi9fwthats all he does, avoid, avoid, deflect, hide

[@TUBESTEAKNIG]

New fans need to remember that when you have a title defense or championship fight you're fighting either the top dawg himself or the top contenders not some random guys. That makes Jones' undefeated record even more impressive than comparing it to someone else with a similar record at a glance.

[@pgreenx]

That and the ped charges, wife slapping, gun charges oh and the hit and run.

[@joshuaslowey71]

​@@pgreenx clearly just talking about his record not his controversies. Glad you felt smart though

[@pgreenx]

@@joshuaslowey71 I agree. But new fans should know what kind of guy he is

[@PetePools]

Great points. Jon fought champions just not contenders!!!

[@_KaiRos-11]

I think Ciryl was a perfect matchup for Jon. Ciryl has no ground game and Jon’s a master Wrestler

[@xoxoprod4167]

I was more nervous for Jon Jones them Jon Jones, that’s how crazy this fight felt

[@joshconran2998]

Right

[@andrique1]

I started sweating during his walkout

[@henryhooker1579]

@@andrique1 bro he looked nervous asf during his walkout to me atleast

[@billj4525]

@@henryhooker1579 For sure, but there's always nervousness before fights for all fighters, but it had been awhile, so maybe he was bit more nervous than usual.

[@malachirichtmyre4114]

I love how shavkat did the standing choke that reminded me of jones vs machida on jones comeback fight

[@PersianSelection]

7:48....this is it right here. I think newer MMA fans have no perspective just how out of this world that run was because they weren't there.

[@stevencoardvenice]

Same thing with Jordan haters. They didn't see his Bulls knock off all these top teams in the finals, so they just claim he didn't have any competition

[@oldironsides4107]

Jon was in the ufc after 8 months of training mma. Won the titles than 2 years later. You’re just not going to see someone do that again.

[@PersianSelection]

@@stevencoardvenice Yeah, MJ was truly special too...I think there is a case for Messi in soccer as well. It's almost like some people were born to do certain things, Jon Jones is one of those guys.

[@BowlOfLifeNutrition]

Jon came back like someone new on the scene! A Prospect And A Prodigy }

[@guillermonaranjo4537]

His Belfort fight was my favorite of all time. I remember watching him tear through sho gun and I bet on sho gun. It was like something I've never seen before. Dudes the goat

[@_KaiRos-11]

You bet on Shogun n that fight. Yikes. Sorry looking back on it Shogun was obviously way past his prime and surprised he beat who was it Machida, Shogun took the belt from?

[@guillermonaranjo4537]

@caro4324 looking back on it yeah lol but at the time he had a draw with machida then ko him and at that time all light heavy weights were kinda passed their prime LOL

[@tatro222]

People seem to forget the ciryl was beating Francis in all aspects of the fight until he tried the leg lock and then got laid on. Jon took ciryl down with ease and did what Francis couldn't, he advanced positions and got the sub. Jon would smoke Francis too. Very scary how good Jon is.

[@mrspiff6955]

MMA math isn’t a thing kiddo. Ciryl was being a fanboy with Jon. He lost before he stepped in the octagon.

[@thejuggl3r442]

​@@mrspiff6955Fuck you talking about? 😂

[@user-uo7vf3ne9w]

Agree bro, jon would kick nganou's knee caps the same way he dun rampage, hiper extended da hell out his knee caps and never was the same,

[@shroomgod1990]

During the whole week Jon was saying what there weak at and he exposed it.

[@steviegreenthumb4720]

@@mrspiff6955 This isnt MMA math this is you guys not understanding the actual skill gap between Jon and literally everyone else close in weight.

[@Jimmy-es8bc]

It feels absolutely great to have Jon back.

[@cameronparkes6629]

I predicted Jon by decision 5-0. I thought he would have Gane on the ground within the 1st minute of every round and control him. Didn’t see this happening

[@DH-vy8hw]

It will ALWAYS be Jon vs Jon!

[@Satsuionly]

Jon is 2-0 against his wife man never loses

[@Rick-bi9fw]

​@@Satsuionlydamn u people stay living in the past. So weird.

[@jawa7401]

@@Rick-bi9fw it literally was not that long ago. Can’t deny his goat status as a fighter but that doesn’t excuse his shitty fuckups outside the ring. He’s been given an actual ridiculous number of chances.

[@diluted8]

​@@Satsuionly wack

[@robelmekonnen1564]

That would be the ultimate superfight. Jon vs Jon hahaha

[@unsub6737]

It's crazy to hear people dismiss an immediate rematch for Valentina when in the next 30 days we'll see an immediate trilogy for Usman and an immediate rematch for Izzy and nobody is complaining. Why not Valentina? Bc u like the contenders that are upnext, have year end bets or like the other former champs better.

[@trayyoutube]

Anybody that says no immediate rematch to a 7 time champ is smoking crack rocks

[@Bravesbasebizzle]

@@trayyoutube she couldn’t sell 1 seat for a show 😂 ufc a business and she brings zero

[@nichola10901]

They should definitely run it back, on of my favourite womens fights I’ve ever seen

[@flyingmonke]

@@trayyoutube cause Valentina is a boring bum who has no fans. Alexa now has a nation behind her.

[@Nedeljko333]

@@Bravesbasebizzle And other girls in the division bring more? Brain dead

[@2DizzyBoi]

Man... It feels like UFC 4 when your career is about to end. Never stopped being a fan of Jon 2013-to now, there is no other UFC GOAT. GSP is 2. Any other honorable mention is simply just great. There's great & there's GOATS. Enough room for everybody 🎉🎉🎉

[@BrandAccount-ec2rx]

true gsp is #5 for me but Jon is #1

[@2DizzyBoi]

@@BrandAccount-ec2rx damn #5? Who the hell you got ahead? 😢

[@TBE99]

Overrated GSP isn’t even top 5 lmao. Gsp tapped to strikes, got koed by a midget and tapped like chicken 🐔 in the weakest era of the welterweight division

[@ErnieTheDestroyer]

Anderson silva and demetrious Johnson

[@ErnieTheDestroyer]

Gsp cherry picked bisping nd that annoyed me because I love bisping and then he ran away again and he lost against Johnny hendricks got a robbery and ran if it wasn't for them 2 things I would probably personally rate gsp higher he aint that old he can still fight there is no reason for him to not still be fighting other then being scared anderson silva went on for to long and dj did not get beat by cejudo but it was a close fight and that robbery destroyed the performance for cejudo

[@NHBSQ871]

I can kinda understand the "ring rust" aspect of Ariel's prediction against Jones, but c'mon. As someone who makes a living off of analyzing MMA, he should've known Jon had a pretty clear path to victory. He's one of the best MMA wrestlers we've ever seen, going against a guy that is LOST on the mat... a French Kickboxer with not even close to Jon's experience...

[@ligance]

Do people even realize Stipe is nearly 41 years old, and was knocked out twice in his recent fights?

[@grimeythree4294]

Stipe doesn’t seem to realize either 😂

[@FKTHESYSTEM063]

His leg reach is shorter than Jose Aldo’s. Weirdo.

[@gyrfalcon7332]

Loved the perspectives you all shared about burying Francis Ngannou. We MMA fans are a fickle bunch.

[@zingerstronger9]

Kinda buried himself …

[@iamjp1]

@@zingerstronger9 indeed

[@conflict7269]

Jon Jones has the ability to bring all types of fans of UFC back out old school to new school he has that effect especially with the old school fan

[@matthewcharboneau733]

I think Jon wants to fight and beat Stipe then call it quits. I don't see him wanting to fight Pavlovich or Curtis Blaydes or anyone else. The only other fight he'd take at HW is Francis but I don't see that happening. If he beats Stipe then his career and GOAT status is set in stone and everything after that I think is too risky, unless he just destroys Stipe then stays around and destroys a few more people

[@KINGD2001]

Fax is want em to fight n beat stipe and get a super fight with Francis or Brock or sum then retire

[@jawa7401]

Then he drops to WW and takes the belt, then LW, then Feather bantam and Fly and becomes the Champ Champ Champ champ Champ Champ Champ

[@matthewcharboneau733]

@@jawa7401 you never know. A motivated Jon is a dangerous Jon and damn near unstoppable

[@Jay-pd9kc]

@v cam he says he’s a girl, then some hardcore leftists can’t say anything

[@AM1media]

​@@jawa7401MMA triple champ haaaa

[@Kruppes_Mule]

A stat I haven't seen mentioned by any of the talking heads is that Jon is the first "double champ" to have also beaten another "double champ". That's going to be a tall order for anyone to do again.

[@kevinbazarek]

wait but he wasn't double champ back then lol. not taking anything away from Jon but these things aren't exactly retroactive

[@daviddesorcy]

His family was in the Octagon for him, this was a huge night for the Jones family.

[@stephaniegordon834]

His family has always been at every one of his fights, his earlier fights you can hear his mom screaming "Get him Jonny" before she passed away

[@redeyexxx1841]

@Chris Dern Nope there's zero proof of DC taking PEDs. The reason DC says Jones is best because he had like pictograms which is an extremely small amount to significantly alter the course of the fight.

[@goodfellas1001]

​@@redeyexxx1841 ... There is no t in picograms... How big do you think molecules are? You think a 747 is going to be in a blood sample? I guess Jon Jones is the type of guy to only take enough steroids to not help with his performance...

[@redeyexxx1841]

@@goodfellas1001 Well now the amount over 100 pictogram are made legal. So ofc what Jones had wouldn't make a significant difference. Even DC said Jones beat him twice in an interview.

[@bigvsouthphilly2156]

​@@stephaniegordon834 rip momma jones

[@romagirk5927]

As an MMA fan the start of this year has been 🔥

[@Cornell90]

No it hasn't. UFC lost it, they needed this card so badly. Before UFC was big, so all the events before UFC 100, they were all fire. Every card was insane. Now UFC has more fans then ever, and the product keeps sinking. They needed Jon back badly. UFC has been on a decline for quite a time now.

[@davidagiel8130]

The best thing about the fight is the way he went straight forward and didn't stop.

[@josephbauman1793]

All the hate gone after one fight. Amazing

[@m.s.2916]

Khabibs record isn't viable, he defended the belt 3 times thats not goat status in my eyes. Bone's record obliterates that, just on title defences alone, aswell as Izzy, Nunes, Shevchenko, aldo, Johnson etc. Defending the title i think is key for goat talk and all these fighters have done it more than 3 times.

[@TheRulersBack18]

yea, the khabib fans hate to hear it, but that's a fact. he could've been on the goat list but he retired (which is obviously his right). part of goat talk is turning away contenders as you age and younger/different opponents get in there, and khabib didn't do enough of that to pass jones, gsp, johnson, etc.

[@sochioranmyaku]

It’s also the fact that he went 13-0 in the most competitive division in the sport. There’s only a handful of fighters that have a longer winstreak than that, and all of those guys either lost and had that winstreak snapped or had no contests that split the streak. He’s not the greatest but people keep pretending that it’s not remarkable. There’s something to be said about being completely undefeated and making out unscathed.

[@Intoboom126]

I am a fan of both Jon and Khabib but there are some delusional mfs. Khabib and his father have said Jon Jones is the greatest fighter ever and gifted by God. Who are fanboys to say otherwise 😂

[@felipebenavente7795]

U right!!! Truth

[@PresidentEvil]

idk what type of mental gymnastics these casuals do to think Khabib is anywhere near the GOAT, the dude doesn't even have the most title defenses at LW 🤣🤣

[@ProducedbyPDot]

withing the first few seconds before the low blow , i smurked seeing how fast jon got across and layed a jab right away pushing gane back , it said alot so fast to me

[@dylanhardy9584]

You know it was a good fight week when Ariel isn't crying about life

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

😂😂😂 you ain't lying tho

[@Feeds_]

It’s hilarious that Colby now has the two scariest dudes in the division wanting to smash his face 😂

[@jeremybilly2376]

I didn't think anybody notice the "dana knows about making mistakes" line 🤣🤣🤣

[@SonOftheBattleCry]

I remember back in 2011 I was 14 years old going to BWW to watch my favorite fighter shogun rua whoop jones I was so sad to see how easy jon ran through him I cried and then I wanted jones to lose every fight he defended the belt but when I became and adult and studied more I realized jon is a once in a lifetime fighter and I am so greatful to have witnessed his career and for him to come back and win the title easier than his first one was amazing I’ll always root for jon

[@emprodabobplays]

That first Gustafson fight was straight out of a Rocky movie... Top 5 greatest match ever 🔥🔥🔥

[@Intoboom126]

7:30 totally agree. But this fight makes his goat status so much more future proof. I don’t see anyone ever overtaking him now like with MJ or Ali. People might get close, but from here on out, people will only be able to claim goat statuses of their era in the future, not the sport as a whole.

[@Dagnaldinho]

Ali isn’t the GOAT. He’s just iconic.

[@DCshandle]

That’s what I think about Silva and gsp. Simply legends of their era they’d be smashed in todays competition. I think jones is the true goat

[@matthewcharboneau733]

When Jon beats Stipe there shouldn't even be an argument anymore. Jon is the GOAT. He's beat HOFer after HOFer. With USADAs new rules, Jon really hasn't failed any tests.

[@ligance]

Stipe is 40 years old bro

[@Jay-pd9kc]

@@ligance glover texeira was just champ at 40 so what

[@someguy4046]

Y'all keep moving the goalposts he's the youngest champ in history, most title defenses, longest win streak, undefeated, beat so many HOFers, won belts in 2 divisions that are far apart in weight and made it look easy. I get it Jon isn't exactly a saint but if we're talking purely about MMA there is nobody even close.

[@wheelchairmafia9685]

Jon jones should be fighting sergia or blades

[@parmar__12]

​@@wheelchairmafia9685tell that to dana, dana is hell bent on giving stipe title shot

[@noelperies8406]

I love listening to the passion that Ariel has for MMA. Thanks brother for everything you do in this beautiful sport

[@wundergt1590]

Yes bro, thank you Ariel.

[@TheRulersBack18]

god, what i hate about media members like ariel who haven't taken the time to learn anything technical about the sport they're covering is their immediate move to 'X looked intimidated!' ciryl hit jones in the nuts the same way that the south african kid kicked his opponent in the nuts. there was a slight level shift and gane wanted to kick jones in the inner thigh area but it landed on the groin. it's ok to just say that gane was completely outclassed in grappling, we don't have to act like the guy who stood across from francis ngannou was intimidated being in the octagon with jon jones

[@opiates8777]

Ur not very smart, gane definitely wasn’t intimidated by Francis 💀, gane is insanely better on the feet and Francis’ only weapon (that gane expected) is a power shot from his hands, Jon had about 100 more ways to be effective in the fight bro, and is the consensus goat 😭 he was intimidated and it makes total sense why he was

[@jackhenry6743]

the goat

[@constantineandreu9377]

STIPE DOESNT HAVE A BLOODY CHANCE👌

[@Rick-bi9fw]

Why cuz gane is the worst wrestler at heavyweight?

[@larryvalencia7991]

What ????? Do not underestimate the 3x world champion!!!!! Stipe always underdog nothing New😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-ze6ob3cs7m]

15 victories in UFC championship fights is the most impressive stat ever.

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

It was an amazing performance

[@tidefanman1]

As dominant as Bones looked, he DID look NOTICABLY slower. Maybe it's age,ring rust, weight gain, WHATEVER, he's looking AWESOME. Let's see Stipe, cause THAT guy won't be afraid

[@felipebenavente7795]

Totally agreed i did saw that as well...for 2 minutes tho but i did see that

[@jawa7401]

It’s crazy because he’s only a few years older than Gane but looks like he could be his dad. All those drugs man.

[@wasupfool5692]

Baloney lol, he ducked under Ganes punch and took him down perfectly,

[@tapsunofficial]

Stipe will get run through man stop it he’s too old and washed now

[@AidanCulverREAL]

@@wasupfool5692 Not “baloney” striking he looked slow and sloppy

[@YORKIEBOY123]

One of the best shows on KZbin this is man, only just found it.

[@SloppyJoel_]

Long live the king

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

You're gonna find out how big of a weasle Ariel is too soon😂

[@Human-ll5yv]

All those things on top of being considerably injured. wrestling is the best base for mma , period

[@gertrudeslepsch6482]

I watched many best but your the best best best ever in very proud of you just to let you know I never doubt you when I heard you coming to fight again God bless you 🏆 Champ

[@TBE99]

Jones was so dominant that people would equate a below than average last 3 performance as a loss when in reality it’s just the underdog bias. Same thing other dominant athletes like Floyd, Khabib, Islam and Andre Ward had to go through.

[@parmar__12]

Islam🤣🤣 That man barely have 3 good fights calm down

[@TBE99]

@BigAveBluegrxmeyl60c Lmao CASUAL...... privileged calzaghe fought nothing but bums and two senior citizens. Ward cleared the whole division and won the super six world boxing. Ward destroyed great hype #2 p4p Kovalev twice and became the #1 p4p and lineal champion. You know nothing about boxing

[@TBE99]

@BigAveBluegrxmeyl60c Never mention an all time great like Andre Ward to a bum senior citizen crusher and can crusher like privileged Calzaghe LMAO.

[@willyschitumba5914]

Andre Warde is arguably the greatest super middleweight of all time kid. The only case for Roy Jones is the longevity, but his competition level had drastically gone down in his last 10 years. Warde KOd prime undefeated Kovalev in his last ever bout. Calzghe’s best wins were against grandpas on losing streaks so his wins don’t mean as much.

[@oldironsides4107]

BigAveBluegrxmeyl60c Many things wrong but I’ll just address the last part. You discredit wards resume but you’re touting calzaghe resume?

[@THE-CHAMPION-HAS-A-NAME]

I was just thinking, how dumb is the idea of Izzy and Jones now 🤣🤣

[@chillycityyadig]

Ariel, I can't believe you thought the French guy was going to win. Natural talent will always prevail. 3 year layoff and he smoked that French guy. And he will smoke Stipe, because Stipe has a lot of flaws, and had been put to sleep several times. Bones is the 🐐, respect that.

[@GonzoZener]

In every sport there exists a warrior spirit and in MMA the vulnerability of 1 on 1 competition is displayed in the raw. Every professional athlete looks up to the full performance that John Jones displayed and so do all sports fans. John Jones is on an all new level.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

Jon*

[@Journeyman2585]

I've always found the PED argument very lackluster for a couple reasons. The first being that pre-usada, more people were on them then we'll ever know. The second is more important, and it's the fact that PEDs don't make you a skilled mma fighter. That comes from hours on hours of practice, determination, drive, etc. Jones is by far the best mixed martial artist of all time thus far, and that's just the way it is.

[@wheelchairmafia9685]

Jones tested positive for clomid and had single digit testosterone levels, I don’t think under the PED argument very well so the guy 100% confirmed cheat having blockers in his system but Yes you have to be skilled mma fighter but If someone taking EPO give a clear cardio advantage in a 5 round champion fight. For example Skilled fighters like Usman where gassing out in 3 round fights, then he starts taking EPO and had 5 round cardio development his late career.

[@adamberry7982]

​​@@wheelchairmafia9685 I totally agree. He tested positive, there is no GOAT status, no debate, end of story period! What really bothers me is that no one in the media doesn't call him out on it. That's just my opinion y'all

[@newworldgrover8588]

@@wheelchairmafia9685 my brother I’m not a fighter but while on GNC bought testosterone boosters I had to take estrogen blockers too. Jon is correct that you can also find these same blockers in generic cialis. You guys have mythologized USADA so much for making everything illegal. Half the crap that the average Joe uses is illegal to most fighters. USADA tested the generic cialis and found the sample tainted. You guys know the story but avoid the darn details. Estrogen blockers DO NOT make you a great fighter or even a good one. For a fighter estrogen blockers provide no significant advantages except it’s seem as a masking agent to possible steroid use. Glad Jon who that lawsuit agains USADA.

[@justanotherguy9300]

Even when Jon jones isn't on PED, he sti wins in great fashion, the guy is the GOAT in all lists

[@ultimatefighttalk5525]

A motivated Jones is incredible, he disposed of Gane so easily its almost unbelievable. I am glad I got to witness the new P4P champ in his prime since he started in the UFC and his reign. I am not surprised he is back to P4P No1

[@tinoheat728]

Absolutely good take. Jones was genuinely in harmony

[@cannabass5729]

Jones and volk are the best we have on the roster.

[@tapsunofficial]

Just Jones atm

[@johnschultz8906]

It's weird because I almost feel like it was a let down we waited so long I wanted to see a little more but the goat is definitely back

[@zackposey4939]

The fight between grasso and schevchenko is the headline we should all be talking about in my opinion I'm just saying that pretty much everyone knew what was going to happen with gane and Jones maybe not as emphatically as it went but the outcome was a foregone conclusion to the majority of fans but almost nobody myself included saw grasso coming out on top

[@victorguerra5982]

That grosso back take almost looked like a video game lag when you press the button and they force the animation lol

[@ramonbriones4487]

Hey Ariel lookin forward to the Jon jones interview 😀

[@od4121]

Pretty sure jon hates Ariel these days

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Did Ariel put the domestic abuse hothile after his Jon Jones take like he did when he cried about Dana's situation for an entire episode ?

[@JayRRR-gb1lo]

Right.

[@Romanus-]

Nah Jones beating his wife bloody is fine by Ariel. One slap by Dana of course needs multiple hours dedicated to it. Idk how people don’t realize what a snake Helwani is

[@MakingGainz]

Why is Palovich not being mentioned?

[@stevieadams781]

Ariel, your passion is intoxicating. I really enjoy your show. I also love that you’ve caught the Darts bug. Keep up the great work, Fella.

[@beardedtiger]

Ariel I appreciate u for being honest but never ever go against Jon Bone Jones he has always been a killer he just a lil nicer now lol

[@PresidentEvil]

the GOAT of GOATs

[@killroy2221]

I think it has everything to do with maturing, getting his mind right, and having his life In order. even with his life a mess outside the octagon he was amazing. this the most dangerous version of jones

[@Unclesteve16]

Literally the best ufc card I’ve seen in a LOOOOONNNGG TIME!!! 🎊

[@davidrobertson4186]

I thought Jon Jones looked nervous when he getting ready to enter the octagon and I was also nervous for him. I was so happy to see him win and climb onto the cage and look out into the crowd.

[@The.Golden.Door.]

Everybody's Nervous going into that Octagon. Some just hide it better than others.

[@oldironsides4107]

Especially when his walk out started. He was totally different. Then the tape distraction. Had all the signs of jones finally losing.

[@pilot8220]

@@oldironsides4107 Lmao no it didnt

[@oldironsides4107]

Pilot82 Usually he’s screaming and woooing. Jumping around. Saturday. He was saying yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Monotone. Took him a while to loosen it. I don’t think you watched it. Compare Saturday to any fight ever

[@martysmith2851]

To be honest, Gane was a legitimate fight for Jones, but Stipe is 40 years old and pretty much retired, so after Stipe, who is there that is a big (probably career defining) fight for Jones? NO One, thats why I think Dana and The UFC failed massively not making the Jones Ngannou fight (no matter what his boxing demands were)... that's the only fight I actually wanna see.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

I don't really care to see the Stipe fight imo , it's only there for Jones legacy I doubt it's gonna be competitive either , id rather see Jon fight the winner of Pavlovich and Blaydes at least they're young and hungrier than Stipe

[@martysmith2851]

@@drunkenmmamaster419 Yea, but I have no interest in that fight either. Jones is at the end of the best MMA career there has been, he's the best ever and it should be Stipe and then Ngannou and then ride into the sunset as the greatest.

[@woahblackbetty7691]

Go back to LHW and cleanup again. Imagine Bones vs Hill or Jiri

[@559bounceHER]

He said "puk u got me"😂😂😂😂

[@lamakicker69]

I hope Jon goes full Tom Brady mode where just becoming the consensus GOAT isn’t enough, need to get put such an incredible gap between you and the next guy that it’s seemingly impossible that anyone will ever catch you.

[@Richptoptier]

Never have i felt such honor. Thank you for this opportunity.

[@Radar101music]

I was fast brother, but you were faster

[@sandykv1653]

27-0

[@mr4real83tv]

He reminded me of Machida Jones!!!

[@BDtheZero]

The issue is that the sport is so young that the P4P champs automatically get into the goat conversations

[@kiezersosay49]

Nice 180 ariel...isn't it hypocritical that you don't criticize JJ for beating the crap out of his fiance in front of there kids for not giving him 10 Gs for the strip club, but dana and his wife have a slap match and its the end of world...

[@Maximus90277]

Diff is Jones fiancé deserved it

[@enriqued8220]

​@@Maximus90277 sounds like you deserve it too lol

[@shroomgod1990]

Jon should definitely 100% fight stipe. It will just add to his legacy with minimal risk. I think it will take longer to beat stipe but he will be dominant. He could just keep going but it feels like he has every right set off in the sunset as the true GOAT! Damn man we will never see another like him.

[@dharris1084able]

Jon has always been my favorite.. I used to wish he would fight Anderson but Anderson would have to move up for that… I really hope we get her for a least 3 more fights… he is 🐐…. Also I like Izzy to but please 🙏 Izzy I think you would become stronger if you trained with Jon and not a box office brawl

[@raytylerofficial]

Jon outclassed Gane and wasted no time getting rid of him. Gane came in with a solid game plan and lots of preparation to defend Jon's takedowns and keep the fight standing. However, Jon basically knew what Gane's game plan was and stayed a few steps ahead and anticipated his every move, essentially negating Gane's game plan. Jon's striking, fluidity, and reach stifled Gane, and then the wrestling was too much for him to stop. Easy win for the GOAT.

[@unknownunknown3692]

This literaly didnt happen. Spoken by a true fanboy perspective. Gane didnt even react to the pressure. He litarly let himself walk to the cage then threw way too little to keep jones away. Jones takedown was quick. When gane was down he couldt lock him cuz gane was defending himself by putting his chinon the chest which is the thing u do to evade a chokehold. He stood up by lifting his chin from the chest which u NEVER do was a huge rookie mistake. He did this by standing leaning slight forward which lets to the chin coming free from the chest and and neck applieable for a choke.. Jon react on this mistake (credits to him) by putting the chokehold and thats it. It was a rookie mistake.. Gane way to nervous

[@SonOftheBattleCry]

They didn’t even strike at all Jons fluidity?? What ? They didn’t even strike at all jon threw a kick and a punch and then slipped the right hand and got the take down

[@unknownunknown3692]

@@SonOftheBattleCry bro this is a fanboy. He sees things we didnt see.

[@raytylerofficial]

​@@SonOftheBattleCry ...there were 19 strikes thrown before Jon took Ciryl down FYI. They were on their feet exchanging for over a minute before the takedown. Guess you didn't see that part 🤣

[@raytylerofficial]

​@@unknownunknown3692 You clearly know next to nothing about MMA. Silly "unknown" KZbin commenter. What a joke. 🤣 Keep in mind they threw almost 20 strikes before Jon dragged Ciryl to the ground and tapped him out.

[@jonsnow5907]

Francis is not that good. He’s a power puncher and super strong and athletic. He had good coaches around him and that’s about it. His reasons for leaving never fully made sense and in hindsight that’s looking more and more like it was the wrong decision.

[@SupernaturalBeingsofEarth]

Basement! Yea right! I'm sitting here looking out your beautiful view just behind the legend.

[@TheBareKnuckleHour]

How do you join the live chat?

[@xATown23xGaming]

They already missed having the Africa card, so they can't miss this one either

[@NaderRahy]

my personal goat is anderson silva because of the way he won. he took chances and he gifted us with matrix like finishes.

[@michaelgaryscott7886]

The new generation of MMA fans had no idea who Jon Bones Jones is. They do now. Stipe was a GREAT champ. But there's absolute LEVELS to MMA and Jon is at the top where he belongs.

[@dachurchofeppie850]

John is gonna take Francis down in the Clinch and from caught kicks. Threaten the double and overhand right. Double Is available late in the fight. Jones is ALL kinds of trouble for Francis. Francis hits really, really hard and is a terrific athlete. Lights out is ALWAYS a possibility.

[@grimeythree4294]

Luckily he’ll never see Francis in the octagon

[@WernerRachtman]

Lets just say that Ariel burnt the bridges with Jones

[@flixcean]

😂. figured there’d be no JBJ on the mma hour from now on. ariel would ask a question and jon would give him the mike bohn “next question please”

[@ramonbriones4487]

That bridge was burnt and demolished years ago lol

[@ufcfan88]

What he do?

[@Maximus90277]

@@ufcfan88 probably called him a steroid cheat

[@Herc11355]

This why you are the best in the business. Look at that passion!!!

[@davidshore4811]

I didn't watch it live but I could see from the the highlights it had the buzz of the Connor days

[@christopher6133]

People forget Francis lost to Derrick Lewis AND Stipe. But he’s the greatest heavyweight? Cmon guys. Y’all being silly

[@KINGSOP2000]

He said this tho? Everyone believes Stipe is the heavyweight GOAT but if Francis keeps going he could be and if he were to beat Jones he would be the GOAT absolutely. Also his Derrick Lewis was barely that and it was barely fight but I love how you haters love to bring stuff like that up that looks indefensible when you look at the context for 2 seconds

[@christopher6133]

@@KINGSOP2000 3-2 in his last 5 fights 😴

[@dontfearthereaper2887]

People are ditching Ngannou cause the bum doesn't want to fight, he's got like zero damage compared to other fighters and still he won't fight

[@gertrudeslepsch6482]

Hello John Jones , first I saw your fight I'm very very very impressed and I told myself you always going to win and this Saturday fight and you you make it fast to finish this guy is so amazing and an belieble my gosh i was screaming and I said to myself I knew it you going to win I did not doubt you

[@emiliocian8337]

Jon Bones he is built different ,it's built for be the one. PDS? He is born for become The GOAT Bones.

[@wheelchairmafia9685]

Ariel I’m a man or honor and integrity then Why is Ariel praising a wife beater after what he said about Dana last month

[@snorky222222]

He's praising Jones fight performance, Einstein

[@johnbrown-cv2lr]

Shove your integrity up your butt lame idiot

[@wheelchairmafia9685]

@@snorky222222 simping Ariel

[@beardedtiger]

Is it just me or was Gane way over rated he has no ground game just like Francis has no ground game Jon would beat both of them easy

[@TheRulersBack18]

gane has a clear hole in his game, but that doesn't make him overrated, it makes him flawed like...just about every fighter in the ufc. his striking is the real deal, and that, the movement, and the athleticism are the things ppl speak about when rating gane

[@Romanus-]

@@TheRulersBack18 true but I think most people expected that his grappling would improve. It looks like it hasn’t whatsoever

[@TheRulersBack18]

@@Romanus- i absolutely agree with this. it's pretty clear to me that gane either needs to switch camps or make some additions...ngannou wasn't prepared for stipe's grappling (under fernand lopez)...gane wasn't prepared for ngannou's grappling (under fernand lopez)...and gane wasn't prepared for jones' grappling (under fernand lopez). iirc imavov didn't look great grappling either, but i'll have to go back and watch his fights again to verify. it's clear that camp has an issue with preparing heavyweights for grappling, gane's gotta do some work. would LOVE to see gane with city kickboxing or something

[@mathemagicalk9]

6:05 Sums up the story pretty quick 😂

[@StephenSalaz]

You were singing a different tune on Bill Simmons poddy woddy

[@Satsuionly]

Since we hate Dana White for slapping his wife after he was assaulted first how about you read the police report the day Jones was inducted into the hall of fame Ariel. If that’s too much work for you I’ll give you the Cliff notes he beat his wife to a bloody mess in the hotel room the sheets were blood stained her lips and jacket were blood stained. They’re DAUGHTER asked the security guard to call the police bc her mom was too afraid to her words to the security guard was “How long do we have until he’s out”. Now let’s make a full show dedicated to a ACTUAL women beater or can you just finally state your hate and negativity towards Dana White and the UFC.

[@ronaldbbx631]

Well said!!!

[@TheRulersBack18]

they're BOTH actual woman beaters, idk how to break it to you

[@Satsuionly]

@@TheRulersBack18 premise is still the same he makes a show about Dana yet praises Jon. You can’t pick in choose like that unless you admit your bias and vendetta

[@TheRulersBack18]

@@Satsuionly he's not praising jon as a person, he's praising him as a fighter, that's two different things. by your logic, dana should've stepped down or something since 'you never come back from hitting a woman' or whatever his actual quote was. i get your point, he could've talked about jon in totality, but this specific moment isn't the time for that. did he ignore when jones hit his fiance in 2021? if so, then your point makes sense

[@ronaldbbx631]

@@TheRulersBack18 your not breaking anything to anyone

[@aeep1999]

If you’re against domestic abuse like you were against Dana, you won’t have jon jones on your show.

[@TheRulersBack18]

there's no way jones was coming on the show regardless lol

[@rrai-]

Fiance is back with him. U dont know shid about their relationship. Mind ur business

[@Maximus90277]

His fiancé released a statement saying she doesn’t mind being slapped once in awhile , it keeps her from acting too wild .