MMC Backdraft & Maketoys Hellfire Comparison

[@thunderforcegr]

DUDE YOUR VIDEOS ARE NEVER BORING! I LIKE THE SMALL BRAKES YOU DO IN THE MIDLE AND PRESENT YOUR FRIENDS AND STUFF

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Thanks man!

[@ActeonEtharius]

Great to see these two together - I'm happy with my Hellfire, but by Odin's beard that Backdraft is bloody good as well. What a world we live in...

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Right?!

[@JackpotToys]

Thank you for pointing out we are fortunate in our options and have an abundance of great toys. It's easy to forget that when we get nitpicky about a swivel not being here or a ratchet there, when this stuff is just super fun no matter what. I'm an official guy but wanted to give this as I do all your reviews a watch. Great vid as always!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Transformers fans don't realize how spoiled they are sometimes lol

[@travissall]

Appreciate the mention of the Alberta wildfires man! Born and raised in this province so that was hard to watch. There's still a long ways to go in the affected areas but all the donations went above and beyond with the help of fighting the fires then with all the displaced people, who a great deal are back on their feet or getting there. Made my call on MT's version easy, get a great bot and donate a bit more to help my own home province. I am grabbing the MMC Grapple for a mold change between the two, I love we have options like that as collectors!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Yea man. Serious situation there

[@Wartator]

Thanks for this comparison, it's a great thing for people on the fence about getting one or another and you made it very clear what are the differences.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Thanks for watching!

[@Wartator]

You're welcome, you were recommended by several 3P collectors in my country and I'm happy I subscribed.

[@SuperFireDagwon]

This is a great video. To be honest your vid was one of the things I used to decide between Hellfire and Backdraft so I appreciate that. I hope you do a similar review with the two Not Trailbreakers coming out. I'm really torn between them and an in-hand review would help a lot instead of just a bunch of still comparisons. Thanks again!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I think I'm more torn on those two than any other options before

[@SuperFireDagwon]

I decided on Hellfire as my MP shelf representative due to overall design and cost vs Inferno (saved about $45 vs Takara). Planning on getting the Grapple from the Inferno mold unless Wrestle drops in price as well so 'Inferno' and Grapple will be similar, but still some variance. But those Trailbreakers are going to be a major bit of frustration trying to decide.

[@Protoinks]

Solid review. Good stuff. It's hard to really pick and choose sometimes, and we have so many options now that it can feel a bit overwhelming when you are stuck in a tight collector's budget. You want to get the best representation of that character, but you don't have a lot of money to mess around with multiple buys/figures either. At least that's where I'm at. I think I'm going to sit back a bit longer before making my final choice. Thanks again, Mr. Skullface.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Totally hear you there man

[@drewc9169]

thank you for the side by side. it helps to see your options compared

[@MythsAndHeroes]

My pleasure

[@dillontaylor3323]

Mr. Skullfacé -- Excellent comparison. Thank you. I would enjoy seeing more comparison videos like this in instances of competing 3P (and MP) toys on the market. Thanks again.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I try to whenever possible. And thank you

[@eyescovered]

Good comparison. I have MMC. You definitely need to do another one of these videos once XTB and Takara have released theirs.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

im not sure ill get the chance to look at XTB but ill be looking at the MP

[@WoogieBoogie03]

Loved you playing the PS4 with a controller that wasn't turned on. Beautiful.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Use your imaginationnnnnnn

[@TrevorToonArt]

I think you've convinced me on the tinted windshield thing. Clear only does make sense if we are seeing an actual vehicle interior.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

YESSSSSS give innnnnn to the tinted windshield theory (next I'll work on getting you to fall in love with the painted windshield approach. But baby steps.)

[@TrevorToonArt]

Haha.

[@KJ-tz7vc]

My takeaways from this video: "It's just not the longest unit, so to speak." "It can't move too freely or it'll be flying out all over the place." "Cattywampas!"

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Hahahaha all true words of wisdom

[@Mechanic618]

Thumbs up for the asian transformation assistant bit.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

That's my buddy Joe kW. A truly wonderful human being.

[@1andonlyhoncho]

It's a wonderful time to be collecting transforming toys.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Amen

[@samuelmartinez4700]

mmc vs maketoys, had the same issue when they both made nova prime. i couldn't make a decision so i ended with both.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

A man after my own heart

[@samthompson2568]

Ah that's a tough comparison to do, both really good and I almost want to merge them both together lol. I would find it really hard to decide if it was just between these two. As you say though we are pretty lucky to have so many great choices. Hope the family are doing well!!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

We're... Adjusting lol

[@Magikknight76]

Great comparison!!! Like you said there are pros and cons with both figures and they are both good pieces. It's Damn near impossible to tell someone this wins over this. Me personally I prefer the Make Toys Hellfire but my friend likes the other one. Different beats for different meats. However before I buy either I'm going to see how the Takara version turns out.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Absolutely man.

[@gundamfan2020]

Out of inferno, grapple or hotspot I always liked grapple. essentially all the bloody same to a degree. But this guy i feel don't get the love it deserves and seeing the g1 with these still looks great. Even the Takara is hit n miss for me. Great break down video tho mate for someone maybe torn on a purchase. You help so many with making the right choice with objective views. more videos like this in a playlist would be good. Keep em coming I speak for everyone i think when I say we appreciate the time you put into enjoying your own voice ha ha Sorry for essay I'm not on Facebook 😔

[@MythsAndHeroes]

my pleasure, thanks for watching

[@jakobwilcyn7437]

Man I wish I could afford the Hellfire version. I really want one of these, I know hasbro is stepping up lately so hopefully I'll be able to get a a afford deluxe inferno from them eventually. Although if I had the spare cash, Hellfire would be on my shelf hands down no hesitation. The color on it is perfect all it's missing is truck numbers and reflectors. I would love to see a repo labels set made with one of the 9/11 department numbers where their members lost their lives that day to pay tribute to them. Also an American flag attachment to go on the back even if it has to clip on to the ladder would just be the icing on the cake.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

A "343" version and I'd buy this all over again my friend.

[@SuperFireDagwon]

I picked up a Hellfire off Ebay for 85.00 shipped as the owner was getting MP Inferno to replace him. You might see more HF's and BD's go up as inferno gets closer to release.

[@jakobwilcyn7437]

+SuperFireDagwon I'll keep my eyes peeled for one. I really do want one.

[@Eseres80]

Though Im not actually collecting 3rd party figures, this is one of those times were Im questioning why I don't. Both of these looks damn amazing in both modes, and Im not even sure if I could choose one, without probably regretting why I didn't pick the other instead LOL! So Im once again happy that I've let the "official Takara Tomy MP" -restriction I've put on myself dictate which one I'll buy. But even though I only collect the Takara MP's for my display, I've recently cought myself wanting a TF that I can play with while watching TV. Just a good one that takes a while transforming and is a bit complicated, but isn't a fragile piece of mess or a big, expensive Metroplex -kind of deal... The Inferno on the left here, that looks like a good one, and at a $100 that doesn't sound too bad to me. But Im getting the Takara MP, and I don't want two of the same character in my collection :P Any suggestions for a good one that we for sure won't be getting in the Takara MP line? Like the Bay-formers? I have the movie leader class Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Sentinel Prime and Starscream figures. Anything in that direction? Nothing too small though, because they're usual way too easy :P

[@MythsAndHeroes]

You never know. I will say that if ft releases their hot rod I'll be selling my Takara one

[@Eseres80]

Bobby Skullface L Why? MP-28 ain't that bad? I have both MP-09 and MP-28, and they look great as a Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime representation. But I've been thinking of starting kind of a TF MP "mirror" collection. Get one 3rd party representation of each of my offical MP's :D I've seen a very cool looking 3rd party Optimus coming up soon! That one looks dope! Might get that one and, yeah, that FT "Hot Rod" look good too!

[@unicron99999]

I don't think hellfire has a more "real world firetruck look", especially not by far. I see what you mean about the ladder but you can see obvious arms on the sides of Hellfire's truck mode like the G1 toy had. I don't think chrome diamond plating is "maybe the only thing Backdraft's truck mode did better" either. I like that the doors open so tiny figures can ride inside, the cleaner look, chrome horns on top, functional stabilizers, and tinted windows better too (some of which you mentioned right after saying the chrome plating was maybe the only better thing about Backdraft's firetruck mode). Not trying to pick at your video though, just saying my thoughts. I really liked this video. Overall very informative comparison.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

UNICRON 9 that's cool man. You like what you like. And like I always say, if you like it, you win. :) the good news is there isn't a bad choice here

[@unicron99999]

Bobby Skullface Yep they both do look really cool. Takara's does too, but I guess I'm more wanting one that reminds me of the G1 toy I had and loved as a kid and fits with the MPs I have.

[@RedRanger2001]

Maketoys Hellfire and Wrestle make a good stand-in for Earthrise toys while Mastermind Creations Backdraft and Girder are close to MP-33 and MP-35, even though Backdraft and Girder are slightly taller than the official Takara Masterpiece ones...

[@IamRavensong]

You did it!!! All hail Bobby!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Thanks for watching

[@CardboardBots]

Thanks for the comparison.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

my pleasure

[@PjangoStudiosChuchin]

Getting backdraft, especially since its 55.99 on bbts

[@RCCrawlerz209]

I think I like Maketoys Hellfire at best. Something about it just looks simple enough to transform, has that right amount of complexity that I like. Whereas with Ocular Max Backdraft, isn't too bad, honestly, I could roll with it, could mess with it a few times. All in all, just depends on which one a person likes better. Plus, if I were to pick one, think I'd prefer Maketoys at very best.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Not a bad choice to be made :)

[@RCCrawlerz209]

Not bad at all. 😎

[@jonlangs8189]

What's up Bobby? Great video as ever. How come you never extend Backdraft's....hand cannon tip? That sounded wrong haha. I gotta say I love BD. I've played with HF but he doesn't scratch that itch for me. My only real complaint with BD is I have stress marks on his "box" around his head where the slider is, yeeeesh quality control anyone? Being Canadian I do love what maketoys did with the proceeds from HF. That's good karma.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Totally agree with the karma bit. I've had some bad luck with stuff breaking on me so when it's a loaner I try and manipulate as little as possible lol

[@akaBPhife]

What's up Bobby? Long time no see. Glad to see you're still on it. Man I never liked these molds.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I've never been much for quitting ;)

[@quintintabura919]

I agree that the Maketoys back end is a bit of a pain, but I enjoy it. It's the winner for me, but not by much as I also love the MMC. In my opinion, either way, the collector wins.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Totally agree

[@THEWATCHERISLOOKING]

I like the make toys truck but love the mmc robot mode. I hope the make toys releases their grapple like that I'll get the best of both worlds. If not I'll get the next offering.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I hear you

[@poloskier1967]

Man that skit had me in damn tears😂😂😂😂😂

[@MythsAndHeroes]

How kW was in the house!!!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

+Bobby “Skullface” Skullface L joe*

[@MultiJamesman]

Nice. I like my MT version but I find the back wheels are never level and that frustrates me, and I snapped a piece on my Wrestle trying to forcibly level out the same problem (easily fixed). Plus I needed to pledge a couple things for the MT releases. Agreed with robot mode proportions, I passed on MMC because the robot looks awkward IMO, especially in the middle

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Definitely hear you on that

[@chestfullosixes5808]

I am a clean cut guy. I am not into the line-work design, it has what turned me off warbotron and gen toy. I think you said the fans toys wierdwolf was a little plain and I think it is on the money. It is interesting what people expect and prefer, keep up the great work!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I can appreciate both but my tastes vary from day to day lol. I think the bigger they are the more I appreciate the line work. I think it gives the illusion of an even bigger bot. Like warbo bruticus

[@chestfullosixes5808]

+Bobby “Skullface” Skullface L While you are here Bobby are you going to do a comparison between maketoys and fanstoys hound if you still have the pair? I was looking at the pair today and have similar view points to this very video. The fanstoys one is a little bobble head and the maketoys has the thunder thighs, yet both are good. I don't think I could pick one over the other.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

+ChestfullOsixes I would have definitely done that if I had both, but my gundog was a loaner and I no longer have the good man. But it's a very similar situation to these two. Impossible to make a bad choice.

[@chestfullosixes5808]

+Bobby “Skullface” Skullface L Cool man cool. We have a big "fight" coming up between MMC/Ocular Max and Badcube with the trail breakers and hoist's t's tsstsss, this will be interesting, both looking good so far.

[@johngavin1175]

Good video. Im glad I subbed.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

thanks man, and welcome!

[@Superdimensional]

Maybe I missed it but you didn't talk about the face sculpts

[@MythsAndHeroes]

It's possible

[@astartespete]

I made my bed with MMC on this one long ago, and I'm perfectly happy. There's not a bad choice here which is an amazing situation to be in for a character who's not really on the A list. Trailbreaker wars tho man, that's one I didn't see coming! Early thoughts? Great job, thanks Bobby.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I'm slamming my head against the wall on that one. I think I need more pics and size comparisons.

[@crusher1432]

Will you be getting the X-Transbots Inferno? Because if its crap I wanna see you lay into it. (Hopefully it won't be though :D)

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Lol only if someone sends it my way

[@greenweeaboo8924]

When Joe Was Doing Those OFf Camera Transformations What Game Were You Playing?

[@MythsAndHeroes]

A game of pretend lol

[@greenweeaboo8924]

oh ok thanks

[@AdriaCalais]

Oh and congrats! And good job getting your daughters name past the missus.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Many thanks

[@aaronmauer7225]

I cannot wait for maketoys megatron

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Ditto

[@RetroRobotRadio]

I want whichever is largest, so I will wait and see how big X-Transbots ends up.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

We'll have to wait and see I suppose

[@professord8888]

Dito. I need the biggest one. I was convinced to go with Wrestle finally, based on Bobby's video saying between him and Hellfire, Wrestle has the best paint. So I will probably go with Takara for Inferno UNLESS Xt is way bigger and gets good reviews.

[@hin6461]

Okay, so 4 decent inferno's then, cool. And when were we getting a decent Jazz again?

[@MythsAndHeroes]

i think 4 have been announced now? Generation toy, toyworld, transform and roll out and maketoys

[@hin6461]

Really? Thats great! Good to hear.

[@constantinople610]

wow I didn't know I bought a transformer for a good cause. In that case it was a pleasure to have purchased him. That's..... "hot" lol.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I see what you did there

[@professord8888]

This is premature, but so far based on images, do you think Badcube or Ocular Max are gonna do better with Hoist and Trailbreaker. Again, if they are both good, I'll get one from each company.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

waaaaay too soon to tell. i have to do some serious soul searcing on those

[@garydavidprinceable]

if I had money to burn, I think I would buy the MMC one for robot mode and the MakeToys one for alt mode.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Money to burn would certainly be nice

[@DMSL2007]

I'm not a real MP collector i just bought a few (read: too many), so i am not going to buy any of these, nor the official one. All i want now is Jazz. If i had to pick one i would prefer getting Tallferno over Chubferno.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I want a jazz as well

[@LS-jk3fk]

i hope you guys are enjoying these: J4zz from Generation toy and maketoys downbeat as well as (probbably my favorite even though i dont have it yet, but it lookks cool) TnR Hova (MP jazz)

[@quintintabura919]

Too bad we couldn't take the best of both and make one solid figure. Maybe X-Transbots or Takara will tackle that?

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Time will tell I suppose. The good news is so far there isn't a bad option.

[@quintintabura919]

Indeed

[@DataSlam]

Based on the prototype images I'd say XTB's Dante is going to crush it over these two and Takara's version.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Their reputation is the only thing holding me back there

[@BIGLARRY100]

+Bobby “Skullface” Skullface L 3 words... Dante will break

[@AdriaCalais]

I was so overwhelmed with choices that I'm just not getting one. Who the hell is this guy anyway? Bwahahahaha. Seriously though. I applaud maketoys for the donation. Definitely A+ thing to do. I still like MMC look better. Official looks too plain. Sadly I haven't liked a thing since they moved Hasui off the line. (Easy choice for me on Trailbreaker and Hoist. Rounding out my OTS collection just like Justin) :)

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Hahahh still gets me

[@VRHyoumaru]

I think I like MakeToys more, but it's still Inferno, an otherwise background Autobot (maybe not so much as Grapple but still). I would say I'm surprised he's getting a Masterpiece, but so did Tracks. Why hasn't Jazz gotten one I wonder.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

License issues with Porsche I have heard.

[@VRHyoumaru]

...crap, guess that would explain why one of my favorite autobots gets so little love toy-wise.

[@THEWATCHERISLOOKING]

Mcc Inferno,. Mts Grapple for me.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

THEWATCHERISLOOKING nothing wrong with that

[@TabbyTimeOut]

At sixty bucks Backdraft wins!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

evilash3373 if price is a priority then absolutely

[@TabbyTimeOut]

It's far from the only factor but it was just enough to nudge it above maketoys. I love maketoys firetruck mode.but in bot mode it just missed the mark for me. Takara Inferno is a no go due to the lack of detail at that price point. I give them credit for the engineering.

[@CNFunnyJon]

Not a good idea having them together. One farts the other is fire, oh man. Game over! XD

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Everyone loves a good fart joke

[@CNFunnyJon]

Except for women. XD

[@MrFennstar]

Mr skullface,you seem like a fella with his finger on the pulse,what happened to Warbotron?where did these guys go?

[@MythsAndHeroes]

They transformed into generation toy and transformission

[@2007suprasport]

Oh! Wow!...I didn't know? You didn't do your own Transformations! All this time.

[@nightwingnum1226]

The winner is the g1 one.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

By default always ;)

[@JasonSawyer]

For me, MMC wins - MT is too stocky for my preference, and the face is just....scrunched and weird. Not looking forward to the Trailbreaker/Hoist battles though. Hope your wife and newborn are doing well!

[@MythsAndHeroes]

They are and I'm torn there too

[@bdaddyjames011976]

I get when every company makes there own Dino bots. Or Megs or op. I get fifty versions of those guys. Look at me getting bitter. Lol. BRB have to go yell at some kids on the lawn

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Old man swag

[@luispena4142]

forget those toys, takara masterpiece inferno is gonna destroy both of them😎

[@MythsAndHeroes]

Luis Pena unless it's more like tracks and less like soundwave

[@kingragnork]

It didn't.

[@luispena4142]

masterpiece inferno will be better then all of them

[@MythsAndHeroes]

It just might be