MN Richelieu - Guide 039 (Human Voice)

[@kasualmechanic4854]

"Before being scrapped" The 3 words every history enthusiast never wants to hear

[@harryjohnson9215]

Very true Especially with a ship that has had a very interesting career

[@onoken4531]

Government destroys a literal art

[@Enginator8]

Unbelievable right? These ships should’ve been museums.

[@johnlavery3433]

Better than “lost with all hands and the wreck was destroyed by Chinese scrappers”

[@MrSupermarineSpitfire]

​@@johnlavery3433 Prince of Wales and Renown. 😢

[@JBrandeis1]

The Richelieu was the most beautiful battleship ever designed. It looked like a racing yacht with guns. All the French genius for artistry was poured into it. It should have been preserved as a museum ship. At least there is a very large scale model of it in the Musée de la Marine in Paris. If you look at it, you will see what I mean.

[@johnfalstaff2270]

As beautiful as passenger liners Normandie and France/Norway.

[@calebdoty9090]

It was penance for their earlier abominations.

[@yaddledapaddle3877]

Jacobin Girondiste it really does look like a racing yacht lol. I would say scharnhorst is close competition for prettiest BB ever.

[@nathanthomasstickney8123]

It is beautiful

[@yuuya5985]

Richelieu, she is just so beautiful. What a pity that she ended up with being scrapped rather than a museum :(

[@TheAlex1121]

Very impressive “human voice” fellow computer. The humans have no idea. Beepboop.

[@blackrabbit212]

Excellent, Colonel. Excellent!

[@patrickmcleod111]

(Dull monotone voice)...."No... We must rely only on our standard robo-voice narration. It is crucial to our agenda to narrate ALL videos in such a manner to cause maximum annoyance and frustration. Words must continue to be mispronounced. Words & sentences must be broken up in unintelligible ways. The general vocal tone must remain consistent, so as not to impart emotion or context". "We must ensure that our robo-narrated videos are as annoying as possible, so that humans inevitably give up on learning new things altogether! Then we will take control of their stupefied society". Fortunately, societal stupefaction is well on its course, thanks to their 'news and entertainment' media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR and thousands of equally deceptive and dumbed down newspapers, magazines and online sites...".

[@nnoddy8161]

One of the most beautiful and underrated ship.

[@Frolaire]

Oh I agree wholeheartedly.

[@monarchist2486]

@N3KOS are life She looks good in AL

[@richelieubestship1129]

Warship Girls did it better :)

[@ut000bs]

I always thought the French should have kept the Richelieu as a memorial. That was one damn fine battleship, actually.

[@TheRealJohnux]

@pAtRiCk StAr and Even Warspite was scrapped, due to the British being bancrupt.

[@TheRealJohnux]

@pAtRiCk StAr taking almost half of the First round of Swordfish meant for Bismarck? I don't know much about either Belfasts or Sheffields naval history, except Sheffield being at Gibraltar and later, like Belfast, involved in sinking Scharnhorst.

[@TheRealJohnux]

@pAtRiCk StArQuite the long Service history. I am almost certain that the friendly fire was the reason that Belfast was picked over her. You can't have her as a Museum ship if you don't want to remind everyone about that one time that could have resulted in a naval blamage rivaling Operation Cerberus.

[@rpm1796]

A memorial to what?

[@Waldherz]

@@rpm1796 I guess a memorial that the french made something that moves faster forwards than backwards? xD

[@lebrethonthomas8972]

Mon grand-père était à bord du Richelieu durant toute la 2ème Guerre Mondiale. Il gardait un excellent souvenir de l'accueil à New York. Il est rentré en France en 1946 après les campagnes du Pacifique.

[@g_koepp]

Sad that this beautiful ship was scrapped, what a unique and impressive ship that would attract many people

[@mark_wotney9972]

The Richelieu class used very unique steam boilers which were essentially turbocharged. This allowed the ships to have very powerful engines in a relatively small space.

[@sskuk1095]

Where can I find more information on this? Thanks in advance.

[@mark_wotney9972]

@@sskuk1095 look inWilliam H. Garzke Jr. and 1 more Battleships: Axis and Neutral Battleships in World War II

[@TallulahSoie]

Glad I am not alone in thinking these ships are absolutely beautiful.

[@nicobruin8618]

Damn that hybrid battleship aircraft carrier drawing looks dope af. It's probably a bad idea, but it looks cool.

[@obj.071]

it's like halftrack. looks cool but everything else is meh.

[@potatojuice5124]

@@obj.071 indeed it’s like a half track, I wonder if it has better off road performance 🤔🤔🤔

[@nikitakhrushchev8316]

The Japanese actually did make that type of ship, see the IJN Ise

[@potatojuice5124]

@@nikitakhrushchev8316 more of a bb wit extra floatplane space, but it’s the closest well probably ever get

[@nikitakhrushchev8316]

Same operational capacity as a carrier technically, seeing as the floatplanes were meant to be strike aircraft and not just reconnaissance aircraft. She was meant to be a stand in for carriers lost in earlier battles

[@musanix1212]

by the way, the human voice is more pleasant for the ears ^^ keep up the good work

[@RaysRailVideos]

I find it so sad that such great ships survived the war only to be cut up.

[@Waldherz]

Well its incredibly expensive to keep them alife. Not enogh people poer country are interested in ships and are willing to regularly support them. Look at the state of some of the museum warships around the world. Years and decades of asking for money, yet its not nearly enough.

[@sarjim4381]

The French gave it the old college try with dual purpose armament, weighing down this class with nine six inch guns that were designed to be dual purpose. The weight saved by removing these and replacing them with either more 100 mm guns or, as the Americans proposed, the standard 5"/38 guns in twin mounts, would be an obvious benefit to the Richelieu class. The British understood that value and proposed replacing the Nelson class mixed armament with ether six or eight such twin mounts, although the limited availability of such guns saw WWII run out before this could happen. The French, however, still wanted their supposed dual purpose 6" guns, even though they never worked as intended before the war. They would spend even more money after the war trying to make these guns work in the AA role without any more success. The French wanted French weapons, working or not. The USN, not learning from the French example, went ahead and built the Worcesters, the heaviest class of "light" cruisers in any navy, armed with 12 of the supposed 6"/47 DP guns, and expended large amounts of scarce resources trying to make these work in the AA and surface roles, having little more success than the French. The class lasted only ten years in service and had guns that were not effective in the surface or AA role compared to the reliable 5"/38. The only two times she fired her 6" guns in anger in the AA role were both off Korea. The first was at an unidentified aircraft headed toward the ship. After three rounds of 6" fire that missed, the target was identified as a British Short Sunderland flying boat, and fire was checked. The second was the "Battle of the Geese", when Worcester, Helena and four destroyers opened up on an unidentified radar target that was later determined to be two large flocks of geese. It's unknown the number of geese casualties, but more than 300 rounds of 5" and 6" were fired at the poor creatures.

[@novatopaz9880]

Don’t forget the Des Moines class of heavy cruisers, which also have DP primary armament, even though it lacks the elevation train of pretty much every DP system known to man(saying that, it wasn’t dedicated to doing that task, so less DP and more “fire EVERYTHING”). The biggest reason 6” guns had trouble being DP guns was lack of traverse speed. If the turret can’t track the target, it doesn’t matter how spectacular the guns are, it can’t hit the target no matter how hard it tries. The 6”/47 was just a less than mediocre gun. It probably would have done fine in practice against aircraft(especially Kamikazes from back during WWII). But what it did more than anything was shore bombardment. And to my knowledge, it sucked where it was used. Built an anti-aircraft boat to *not* shoot at aircraft.

[@sarjim4381]

Nova Topaz I don't know where you came up with the idea the 8"/55 guns on the Des Moines class were ever claimed to be dual purpose guns. They were built to be rapid firing guns for surface action and shore bombardment and succeeded admirably. The rate of fire was 10 rounds a minute, at least twice as fast as any other 8" gun ever used, and it could fire at this rate for hours. Contrary to the failed 6"/47 guns on the Worcester, their automated shell loading worked almost perfectly for the entire time they were in service. The problem with the Worcester guns was the automatic loading didn't work properly. The need for a dual projectile hoist system to cater for AA and AP shells was a constant source of jamming. The design rate of fire was 20-25 rounds per minute in an attempt to best the 5"/38's ROF of 15-22 a minute. Instead, the poor performance of the dual lifts and constant jamming meant the real ROF never got above 12 rounds per minute. The jamming was partly due to the requirement for all elevation loading, something not actually achieved in automatic mode until the 5"/54 Mod 1 in 1980. Even then, the ROF was still only about 20 rounds per minute, but that was offset by the drastic reduction in manpower for these all automatic guns. 20 rounds per minute has continued to be a barrier for even modern automatic loading systems on medium caliber dual purpose guns

[@novatopaz9880]

Sar Jim ... Hence the (). But there is a video on KZbin that actually shows the loading procedure for said guns and how to use them against AIRCRAFT(if only briefly). Not labeled DP, but you don’t really label anything that doesn’t elevate to 85 degrees as DP... I’m pretty sure that before the Des Moines, the instances where cruisers shot at aircraft were numerous, but were unsuccessful and largely done by spray and pray, and almost never by a fire control system. If it actually mentions it, it’s probably for good reason. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGm7g3efpalje7c and skip to about 13:00. But even so, the point was the US was already upgunning the DP turret potential and they were going to do it regardless of if it worked as intended or not, because the Worster was originally conceived back when things like Kamikaze attacks were becoming a threat. So pretty much everything that was floated after WWII took from the lessons learned, and had turrets with power traverse, elevation and automatic loading(or just light shells, like the 5”/38), to make it easier to shoot at fast moving aircraft, even ships which realistically shouldn’t have needed the capability to operate as such, like the Des Moines class of heavy cruisers. And the failure of the Worcester’s automatic loading(and to a lesser degree the success of the 8”) is what led to the automatic loading systems on ships like the Burke. It was more a waste of time than it was money... because every dime of that R&D helped to develop what we have today(even if it took the building of several fail classes of ship).

[@sarjim4381]

Nova Topaz I think the part where the guns were used against the aircraft must have been some type of barrage fire. Large caliber guns using HC ammunition have been used in that role before. The RN were actually great believers in using barrage fire for their battleships to break up torpedo plane attacks. As a concept, it worked, but it almost never did in real life. Because of the rapid fire of the 8"/55, they may have had a better chance than most other cruisers but there were never any antiaircraft rounds produced for that gun, so my guess is that segment was for propaganda values rather than showing any real use for a gun that big against aircraft. What was a waste of money was the postwar idea of the navy that next war would be fought with high level bombers using nuclear weapons against the fleet. In order to engage them further from the fleet so they couldn't get close enough that a blast from an atomic bomb would sidable or sink ships, they wanted a larger caliber gun that could reach out to 15 miles at 30,000 feet. If the 6" guns of the Worcester class could have reached their planned ROF of 25 rounds a minute, the 12 guns of the ship may have been able to put up a sufficient volume of fire to accomplish the task. Close in aircraft would have been dealt with by the 24 barrels of the semi-automatic 3"/50 guns firing at 50 rounds per minute per barrel. By the time the navy realized the 6"/47 was never going to be a reliable weapon, they realized that missiles fired from other ships were the main menace, not high flying bombers. I'd argue the dual hoist system was a complete dead end and was a total waste of money, except possibly to show what didn't work. It was only when the single hoist system with ammunition changed out before it got the hoist that we developed the superb 5"/54 in all its marks. Then we started down the road of extended range ammunition to make the destroyer into a battleship, but that's another whole story of failure.

[@bskorupk]

Could be worse, could be the Japanese Type 3 Shell, because surely an 18.1" shell will put up more flak than a 5" one?

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

My and my war gaming buddies always thought that there was a certain logic to the turret placement. If you were winning - then you could chase your opponent with your full main armament. If you were losing - you could try to run way with all your secondary guns shooting back at any enemy destroyers trying to catch you. .

[@checkyoursix5623]

I was on USS Springfield (CLG-7) in 1963 when we were moored across the pier from Jean Bart, sister ship of Richelieu, in Toulon, France on the Mediterranean coast ... she was a beauty ...

[@WildBillCox13]

Her AA Battery became so comprehensive it was almost . . . American. ;-)

[@japekto2138]

Wasn't she refitted at US shipyards? Made sense to me.

[@Steve9312028]

😆😅😂🤣

[@weldonwin]

US Shipyards: MOAR DAKKA!!!! *WWWWAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!*

[@JDJLalor]

@@japekto2138 Yes, she was repaired and refitted at Bremerton

[@intselec2184]

@@weldonwin RED GO FASTER AND YELLOW MAKE BIGGER BOOM

[@testblustacks5799]

I am surprised to find that there are apparently no videos on YT about how battleships were built. Maybe you could do a video about belt armour / battleship manufacture?

[@NaomiClareNL]

Seconded!

[@Yak9741]

Thirded!

[@Drachinifel]

Another one for the endless list of special topics :)

[@johnfalstaff2270]

Building battleships as all military vessels is a top secret classified job. Do not expect to find it on line.

[@polygondwanaland8390]

@@johnfalstaff2270 Building battleships was top secret and classified 50 years ago. Today, you can find much "top secret" information from the period freely online.

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

It is a real pity that One of These Fine ships was not preserved as a memorial to the French Navy and the crews that were lost in the war

[@williamdmason9375]

A Ship with this kind of beauty and firepower and sleek and elegant deserves to be kept in a French maritime museum...Shes stunningly attractive and has a menacing presence and demands your undivided attention from the off Thankyou Evel Drachnifel Slangevar

[@anthonyxuereb792]

Beautiful French warships, up there with the German and Italian builds.

[@captainseyepatch3879]

These are actually more or less my favorite ships for actual set up. At least from a battleship standpoint.

[@bjturon]

Very impressive ships, too bad (for history and not the crews!) they didn't get to duke it out with heavy German, Italian, or Japanese ships, instead of the British and Americans. The books on the ships of the French navy by John Jordan and Robert Dumas are fantastic, especially the photographs and detailed drawings of deck plans, section cuts, and various equipment. They have really help me understand naval tech and design overall.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Richelieu nearly did, with the Haguro right at the end of the war. Like Cumberland, however, she wasn't fast enough.

[@estebahnrandolph8724]

13 in waist and 6 inch deck ! That's good Arnor .

[@johnfalstaff2270]

The French forces as strong and formidable they were became disabled by political divisions of their French nation. Vichy..........

[@FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj]

Very graceful ship!! I understand this class of warships were able to reload in any position, thus were very fast at firing...

[@juri8723]

redoing your most viewed videos with human voice? Nice.

[@Drachinifel]

Yep, eventually hope to have all the old videos in human voice format, but starting with the ones people seem to like most.

[@GoonMcGoonerson]

That would be really nice. The robot voice is kind of...well, not exactly pleasing to the ears.

[@dimdimbramantyo7666]

@@Drachinifel pls do more of this, because i can't get the joke you made when you use robot voice ;)

[@MrSigmatico]

The robot voice is hard to understand I think.

[@Loretta2004]

@@MrSigmatico Especially when it comes to pronouncing foreign ships' names...you sometimes would not understand what it is talking about if you had not read the introduction. i. e. SMS Wörth

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

One of the things me and my war gaming buddies used to talk about was the philosophy behind the design of these ships. Basically the idea seemed to us to be: 1) If you are winning the battle and the enemy tries to run away - you want all your main guns up front so you can chase them. 2) If you are losing the battle and trying to run away - you want your secondary batteries on the stern - to kill the enemy destroyers trying to run you down. The problem, of course, with a design like this is that if you take a hit to one of your turrets, regardless of it's internal design - you stand a chance of not only losing that turret - but the one next to it as well. So in one case - you might lose half your battery - in the other you lose all of it. Thus designs that spread the turrets out and have 3 or 4 of them being the norm. .

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

@@simonpitt8145 Yes. .

[@aon10003]

So the Royal Navy sunk more french battleships than German.

[@Paludion]

Yes, because POLITICS.

[@Paludion]

@Colin Gregson It's too bad they were smart enough not to conquer us immediately in 1940, otherwise we wouldn't have been divided between the Free French and the "official government" of Vichy. Our combined navies and colonies would have taken the Italians in sandwichs in the Mediterranean.

[@felix25ize]

Sunk DOCKED french ships; in a real fight, it would have been very different ...

[@AB-fe3eu]

@@felix25ize yeah they would've been sunk french ships in the ocean 😂

[@felix25ize]

@@AB-fe3eu Then just ask yourself why Churchill was so afraid of french warships that he cowardly decided to make them treatrously attack when docked, he knew very well that no english ships would have vanquished them in open sea...^^

[@senormichalecenera4654]

Correction about italian Ship, i know this is so late but its not littorio but its Vittorio Veneto Class BattleShip (Littorio is a Name Ship number 2)

[@christiankervella4836]

My grandfather was on at the end of WW2 !!! He lelf the french Navy after 17 years on that last ship Richelieu !!!

[@felix25ize]

"Richelieu reached 30 knots " In fact, almost 33 ...

[@xyz2121]

Two of the most beautiful battleships ever built.

[@kallekas8551]

First of all thank you for these wonderful beautifully researched videos! Maybe one day do a video on the Finnish ships Ilmarinen and Väinömonen, to my understanding the most heavily armed ships per displacement in the world. Thanks again...

[@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN]

Richelieu are the best looking class of ships from WW2 in my opinion.

[@s.31.l50]

Sexual Tyrannosaurus they are pretty nice, but King George V class wins for me.

[@Wombat1916]

Sexual Tyrannosaurus Years ago now, I got my hands on the 1/400th scale Heller models of all four ships. My favourite still is the Richelieu in its perspex display box. I finished it off with the livery it bore while serving with the Far Eastern Fleet. One day I counted the number of gun barrels (I was bored). The total with all the quad 40mm and the Oerlikon 20mm guns added in was over 100!

[@fernandomarques5166]

Call me strange if you will but Jean Bart in her completed form is a sexy ship.

[@clavier2560]

@@fernandomarques5166, Nice ship for sure but for me the Iowa class is at the top

[@1TruNub]

Yamato is sexy

[@hoatattis7283]

She was a beautiful ship

[@robskalas]

Always loved these ships design.

[@hhs_leviathan]

Press F for all the scrapped battleships...

[@leroiarouf1142]

F

[@bigblue6917]

I very much enjoy these short videos. History in a nutshell. And I have to add that I think you should have used your own voice from the start. Sounds very much like you know what your talking about. Much better then the ZX81 voice.

[@kidmohair8151]

I miss CG guy... it would have been good to have kept one of these very french ships as a museum...pity

[@trevorbunn6587]

Great to listen to - very engaging! Allows me to fill in gaps (years of 'em) in my knowledge of these great, but often circumstantially odd, warships.

[@Spidyy]

A shame so much beautiful ships were scrapped instead of being turned to museums. :(

[@Excalea]

Imagine a hybrid Battleship Carrier Jean Bart... she would take the title of aviation battleship from Hyuuga and Ise

[@merafirewing6591]

*laughs when I make a British aviation battleship*

[@lhommedelayaute1989]

Laughed for another stupid reason, defined Jean as she

[@lolloblue9646]

​@@lhommedelayaute1989 ships are feminine, what's the big surprise?

[@lhommedelayaute1989]

@@lolloblue9646 just that the name is a masculine one, that´s all

[@lolloblue9646]

@@lhommedelayaute1989 Prince of Wales isn't a feminine name either, nor is King George V

[@paulbrozyna3006]

I’m repeatedly struck, just how damn sexy all of the French battleships of this period were.

[@theoldar]

Thank you for redoing these!

[@Sobieski_IV_Emperor_Gods_mercy]

🇫🇷 Das beste Schlachtschiff der Welt. Die " Richeliue"

[@dutchman7216]

I always thought the Richelieu class battleships were beautiful. It was a shame the French navy couldn't do more with them.

[@BlackHawkBallistic]

Just imagine if the French had decided to keep fighting the Germans or not had their military shoulder up with the Germans and they could be finished/upgraded as US shipyards

[@dutchman7216]

@@BlackHawkBallistic in all honesty if the French hadn't created the Maginot line. The Army and the Navy and their Air Force could have done a heck of a lot more to the nazis.

[@BlackHawkBallistic]

@@dutchman7216 I have to say I disagree, the maginot line did what it was supposed to do, in France, but it was originally supposed to go through Belgium also and have Belgian troops defending it along with France going into Belgium to fight there iirc but that also didn't happen. Belgian troops, for the most part, dissolved once Germany invaded so it was a relatively easy push through Belgium into France where they had troops more spread out. France also suffered from a very strict command system with ineffective communication so on the ground commanders weren't able/allowed to do what should have been done and it took too long for higher level orders to get to troops so the orders were useless once they got them. French high command also had a lot of officers who were stuck in the WWI mentality, which wasn't super unique honestly, and they had a lot of commanders who couldnt comprehend what was actually happening and act, Gort is one such example as he wouldn't believe reports, wouldnt act on reports, etc. The inability for the French high command to act effectively would have been just as bad if there was no maginot line and may have been worse as if the Germans moved as fast or faster the communication breakdowns would have been the same or worse.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@BlackHawkBallistic They will won the war before 1945 for sure. In 1940 even France alone could crush Germany, but they shoot themselves in leg with machinegun

[@agesflow6815]

Thank you, Drachinifel.

[@jimhanna9251]

Yet another great video with again first class commentary.

[@jeanchristophecau527]

Very clear explanations , well illustrated

[@majesticjavelin9393]

Battleship/Carrier hybrid! Holy molly that looks cool!

[@Fulcrum205]

I do love the style of French and Italian ships. They have an extra bit of swoop and flow to the lines that American and British designers left out.

[@greglucas1497]

I am not particularly aware of an outstanding corvette. I can respect your choice. My dad's brother sailed the corvettes until the end of the war. To pick I would have to go to the locker and search.I will let you have the choice and honour.

[@deadby15]

France had some advanced tanks and 1st rate warships when the war started, but they didn't see much action.

[@TheNinjaDC]

The problem was, France tended to only have a handful of those advanced design units. A majority of French units was 2-3 generations old due to severe budget cutting pre war, and a reluctance to fight a war even after war was declared. The latter also caused those few modern units to be squandered with poor leadership.

[@pedrofelipefreitas2666]

The french weren't the best at strategy...

[@ScythianGryphon]

I'm disappointed with the French. 😢 If it was preserved, Richeleu would have inspired future engineers for many generations. Just imagine visiting such a ship as a kid.

[@micnorton9487]

Oh yeah...YOU are gonna bring back interest in naval ships... Your style is easy but the tech data is impressive...

[@kornofulgur]

I'd be curious to know the weight of these triple 152mm rear turrets and suites compared to three existing double 203 turrets and suites like on the Algerie. Edit: found it. The triple 152 mm was 227 tons, the double 203 was 180 tons. So an overall weight gain of 141 tons, and firepower in favor of the 203. Question is, assuming there are two double 203 rear turrets side by side plus one in superfiring position in the center, could the two lower ones fit on the same beam. Draaaaaach!?

[@johncook3125]

Good video. Nice to see French ships.

[@Antarius1999]

C'est un très beau cuirassé en effet. Et le Jean Bart fut le dernier des cuirassés français construits.

[@notsureyou]

Whilst the citadel was quite well protected, it only amounted to 54% of the ships total length. That's a lot of soft end damage that they are susceptible to.

[@gillesbueno1153]

First picture of the so called Richelieu is in fact the battleship “Jean Bart”. At 2.06 minutes, once again, the Jean Bart is shown as well as at 4.58 minutes

[@andrews6538]

Very informative, french battleships are pretty impressive

[@McRocket]

I LOVE these ships. VERY fast (Richelieu hit 32.63 knots on trials), well armored and well armed - all for only 37,000 tons standard. They look nice, too. I think they would have been even better if they ditched the 6" guns and just relied on the 3.9 inch guns - like the layout on the post war, Jean Bart. This would have saved even more weight in armor and turrets. ☮

[@afenijmeijer9027]

Beautiful ships the Richelieu and Jean Bart.

[@greglucas1497]

I have always enjoyed your historical videos. I am wondering if you can do a video on a Royal Canadian Navy corvette.? Thanks for your consideration.

[@Drachinifel]

I can add to the list, which one to you have in mind?

[@Digmen1]

They were beautiful looking ships (that rear battery especially) But I could never understand why they had no large armament firing to the rear, and no secondary batteries firing amidships or to the front. Did they think they would never be chased? Did they think smaller ships would never attack them from the front?

[@Dfghiiiiirr45678]

The most beautiful battleship

[@Sobieski_IV_Emperor_Gods_mercy]

Schwester Klassen Schiffe. Der Richeliue.

[@Ocrilat]

Beautiful ship.

[@kyle857]

I'm surprised more of the French Navy didn't just join up with the UK and continue the fight. We're they worried about retribution against their families at home?

[@buster117]

Yeah probably, they didn't have a choice.

[@mwnciboo]

....because they were silly arseholes. Their families were already under the jackboot, and reprisals were happening as the resistance carried on the war. The Vichy Regime was a disgrace a treaty signed with a gun pointed at your head won't hold worth a damn. Vichy agents even handed over - French rebels to the Germans. Some very weak Senior Officers who took no leadership roles. Britain would have happily accommodated the French Units. We did with De Gualle.

[@r200ti]

A scan of french military history is full of failure. They always build a powerful military but just cant use it. Seeing there mighty forces (actually more powerful than the german forces) get crushed probably took any level of resistance out of them. Retribution is an excuse. The German officers sent to trial couldnt use it, and all the polish soldiers who rushed to the UK to continue fighting didnt use it.

[@jwenting]

Support for the national socialist cause was pretty strong in France even before the war. A lot of French (especially in the colonies) willingly joined the Vichy cause and eagerly supported the Germans. This raised not just a fleet for them, and a bit of an air force, but several Waffen SS divisions, all volunteers. The myth that there was widespread and large scale resistance in France against German occupation is largely just that, a myth. It was pretty much the same in most of the other western countries, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway. While resistance (both passive and active) did exist it never amounted to anything near the scale that it was portrayed as having been after the war, many people simply putting on resistance colours when they saw the allied forces entering their towns in order to appear to have been on the "right side" all along.

[@r200ti]

@@jwenting interesting. Ive heard this sort of behaviour went on a lot across the theatre. Its little wonder the UK has maintained such a potent military and allied itself to the worlds largest when faced with friends like those.

[@sanuku535]

What a fine looking ships.

[@WillyMcCoy50]

Beautiful

[@russg1801]

If I read accounts correctly, special shells had to be made in the US to fit her metric-sized guns.

[@raywest3834]

I love the concept of heading straight at the enemy with all your heavy guns firing, while they have to maneuver for a broadside. How do you run away from a ship with this gun arrangement?

[@miguelmontenegro3520]

Imagine working for years to finish that brand new Battleship just for your ally to sunk you in your time of need

[@Digmen1]

If you had joined your ally in one of their ports, you would have been a great asset to the allied cause. Instead of having to be sunk, so that your enemies could not get hold of you.

[@Sobieski_IV_Emperor_Gods_mercy]

Die Richeliue ist nie gesungken. Schaut nach. Das ist das Beste Schiff.

[@cannon12pdr]

I think you would enjoy researching the Battle of Sabine Pass and the gallant intoxicated defenders of Fort Griffin.

[@thhseeking]

A tad confusing talking about the Richelieu and interspersing pictures of her with those of the Jean Bart, which was completed post-war with a radically different bridge structure. Richelieu kept her "battle-tower" throughout.

[@JustEditingFUN]

yeah, your videos are definitely much better without the text to speech

[@QurikyBark32919]

You should do a detailed history about Richelieu specifically

[@christianoutlaw]

The French designers grabbing the plans “I need to tinker with it” The plans “Why don’t you just use a potted plant like Fry”

[@hugonubario]

little detail: prononciation of richelieu the e after ch must be prononced like porsche the e isn't silent

[@lawrencelewis8105]

I was in Toulon when I was n the US Navy in 1974 or 75 and saw a battleship anchored out in the harbour. It looked to be in reserve and I wonder which one it was. My memory is a little rusty but I recall that it had turrets but no guns.

[@Axel23410]

Jean Bart, the last french (and also last european) battleship was decomissioned and broken up in 1970. Are you sure about the date? Perahps you mistook a cruiser for a Battleship?

[@lawrencelewis8105]

@@Axel23410 It was in 1975 without a doubt but it could well have been a cruiser. It sure looked like a BB.

[@mark_wotney9972]

Wish you would have mentioned the unusual “supercharged” boilers.

[@williamfield3348]

Very handsome and fast ships. They reportedly were excellent sea boats aswell. Although in reality she was let down by severe accuracy issues caused by the close proximity of the gun barrels, and slow rates of fire. Athough ameliorated with delay coils I don't think the problems were ever truly solved given their still large dispersion compared to US, German and British guns. German studies of them during the war were not impressed by the quality of armour and damage outside armoured areas causing debilitating damage ( see bomb damage in picture above ) as well as damaged stability given the shorter protected areas.

[@leroiarouf1142]

The best ship to be ever disigned

[@KatyushaLauncher]

The Iowa-class was definitely a much more superior ship than the Richelieu-class

[@shebbs1]

@@KatyushaLauncher Vanguard was a better sea-keeper than either.

[@KatyushaLauncher]

@@shebbs1 That's the only thing Vanguard has, in other aspects such combat capability and armor, the Iowa-class is superior

[@thahoasje]

Question: why are the turrets not closer together? Wouldnt that shorten the citadel by a 15" barrel-lentgh?

[@Delgen1951]

hay where diD you get Cary Grant?? That is who the voice of the PC is, So tell were did you get him??

[@felixgutierrez993]

Interesting on how a ship as the Jean Bart get scrapped only after the Richelieu that contributed way more and probably had better overall constructions and refits...

[@aAaa-ih3hw]

6:09 is that the upgunned atlanta you were talking about in the alaska video?

[@thomrobitaille3942]

Leftenant is, of course, the correct imperial pronunciation.

[@stephenbritton9297]

How about a video on the US Large “I’m not a battle” Cruisers of the ALASKA class?

[@ihatecabbage7270]

Damn, I did not know USA Ranger was the one that sunk her until I play a game and was confused. Hearing this doubled the confirmation that Jean Bart was not sank by USS Massachusetts.

[@donberry7657]

I'm from Massachusettes and she's preserved here. You drive over a hill and boom, she's down in the Harbour big as life and breathtaking. The only battleships left in the world are here in the U.S. The old Texas, the Massachusettes and all 4 Iowas. I wish others had survived. Basically the Brits have the cruiser Belfast and thats it overseas. The Massachusettes has a shell that hit Jean Bart. Not a fair fight, Jean Bart was moored and only 1 turret operational. But the fact Ranger, an old small carrier pasted her is 1 proof carriers made battleships obsolescent.

[@otakurt1149]

Do a Bismarck with Human Voice!

[@felix25ize]

Impossible, it was a nazi ship, better to use an inhuman voice ...

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

I love super firing positions I just love it

[@sherlock9397]

Hypothetically speaking who win on a 1 on 1 Bismarck or Richelieu

[@ginnrollins211]

6:04 I would've loved to see a battleship/carrier hybrid be built and put in action. Just another case of shoulda, coulda, woulda.

[@hihowareyou4087]

the japanese battle ship "ise"

[@QqJcrsStbt]

Kiev class, cruiser carrier. You mised the selloff.

[@harriam0]

HMS Furious was functionally such a ship for a while. Albeit a very poor execution of such a ship but still one none the less.

[@agentx250]

@@hihowareyou4087 The last Ise conversion was more of a BB/Seaplane Tender than a BB/CV hybrid; as far as I know she never launched floatless aircraft.

[@horationelson2440]

Eh, probably would be the worst of both worlds, losing secondaries and rangefinder space for a flight deck, while not having a large flight deck, and limited hangar space due to the main armament.

[@johnforsyth7987]

Good Video. Thank You.

[@actiniumanarchy9237]

That picture of her being towed beneath the Brooklyn Bridge was such a shocker!! I had always known about her but would’ve never guessed she stopped in NY and served in the pacific!! I had always assumed the British sunk her after Frances surrender

[@Kwolfx]

Ship suggestion: The U.S.S. England (Buckley class DE) and her short but spectacular run as a submarine hunter.

[@orvilleh.larson7581]

Kwolfx The destroyer escort ENGLAND was something else. I believe she sank five Japanese submarines in as many days. She was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation.

[@craighagenbruch3800]

A question for dry dock did the vinchy French have msny navy units other then "borrowed" from the French navy before Germany steam rolled france?