Geartorial S1:E14 - Vintage MXR & Univox EC80 - Eddie Van Halen

[@ronrobins3513]

Univox EC80 @ 8:35

[@peterb7435]

That wreck sounds amazing

[@MOBontv]

thanks Peter! Appreciate the comment and the watch. I love that amp too. Probably bury me with it, ha.

[@neddistanz]

the vintage flanger sounds much better than the reissue to my ears

[@MOBontv]

same to my ears. Interesting though to hear the comparison. Thanks for watching

[@erichughes1166]

In 1988 or ‘89, I recorded a demo with a band called Henchmen’s Oath at a studio in Union or Elizabeth NJ. called Lilypad Recording. The owner/engineer was named Fraug. He was the only other guy who had a Trainwreck head that I knew of . I recorded two rhythm tracks with a Yamaha SG 2000. And the solos with an Epiphone Strat copy. It was a nice guitar head.

[@MOBontv]

oh cool. Glad you had a minute with one. They are truly magical with the right speakers and cabinet

[@stipeur]

Great series, thank you Matt

[@MOBontv]

Meastro Fuzz thank you!

[@nickm.9474]

Marshall’s are too rare. I’ll just use this Trainwreck here. 😆 Great video.

[@MOBontv]

haha, thanks Nick! Appreciate it

[@trismahaffay2813]

This is awesome! I want to add..Ed's was a EC80 4tubes.com/2-SCHEMATICS/Music-amps/Univox/ec80.jpg Not the EC80 "A" ...check out the schematic there is a very interesting difference that could of had to do with the early tone that NO ONE talks about.. , i had one and hooked the input and output up wrong one night, WHAM! Eddie tone!

[@MOBontv]

Ahh!! Another piece of the puzzle! Thanks for the info. My is definitely a pain, doesn't wanna work all the time. But I guess considering its age and it was really junky back then too. But still a fun junky. Thanks for chiming in

[@trismahaffay2813]

@@MOBontv no worries!!! yes...this is quite the puzzle...i'll add a very good friend of mine who is not a guitar player..but a amp tech had to hand deliver some output transformers to LA studio. Turns out is was Van Halen's rehearsal place. ...he walked in and saw the amp rig...had a blond fender bandmaster plugged right into the input of the Marshall. True story ! He has the VH invoice and check signed by David Lee Roth...I have a copy.

[@RobertFairweatherMusic]

Nice playing.

[@MOBontv]

Play Amazing Guitar thanks so much. Appreciate you watching

[@BillDerBerg]

There was no method to EVHs madness he was a relatively working class musician trying to get his money's worth out of what he could afford. Factory second guitar parts a cheap Japanese Explorer copy a bunch of relatively old effects pawnshop parts through an amp a venue in Pasadonuts sold to him because it was old, beatup, used an abused by countless other guitar players. And this was the very same gear Ed would use to record the most influential Rock debut album ever.

[@MOBontv]

true words! Thanks for watching

[@michaelfowler3187]

The flanger sounded a little crunchy is it clipping or out or calibration? Somehow it sounds more like that than it sounds like the amp clipping to me. Amazing swoosh nonetheless

[@MOBontv]

Thanks for chiming in! Yeah very possible with the open input of the trainwreck. The express wasn't really meant for pedal use but still fun to experiment.

[@davepark1827]

I know this video is old but, a friend gave me one of those Univox EC80's but it doesnt have a tape with it, does anyone know where they can be bought??

[@MOBontv]

I found a guy over in Europe that got mine working with a reload in the tape cartridge. Can't remember who he was, if I find him I'll send his contact. They are very finicky boxes for sure. I can only imagine when Eddie was using them they weren't seeing they were brand new back then. Thanks for watching and keep in touch. I wished mine worked more consistently.

[@guitarsphere]

Nice post! Did you use phase 90 or flanger on Eruption?

[@MOBontv]

Thanks! Only the phase 90 on eruption and the ec80 for the end. Just like Eddie did. Loved that guy. Can't believe he's gone. RIP

[@sergiosilva6396]

Very nice!

[@MOBontv]

Sérgio Silva thank you!

[@isaacdebroux-slone]

I don’t think you’re correct about the end of eruption being feedback from the tape echo. The echo is definitely incorporated but that final note is most definitely a dive bomb and in my opinion most of the “swell” sound he gets is the mix of the plate reverb being turned up, not the echo overloading like this.

[@MOBontv]

interesting thoughts. As far as I was told, its the ec80, not a trem dive.

[@marcusdolby1]

You are wrong. Eddie used this exact tape echo unit that was modified to do the dive bomb. Watch this video to see how he did it correctly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnelk62uf7xmn7M

[@isaacdebroux-slone]

@@marcusdolby1 I'm not the biggest expert on Eddie's gear but listening to both the demo you posted and this video they sound completely different from the recording of eruption to my ears

[@marcusdolby1]

Isaac deBroux-Slone The end of the dive sounds different because these demonstrations don’t have the console fade out that Halen had in the studio. The reverb wash was created from the EMT plate that they used in the studio after the fade out.

[@isaacdebroux-slone]

@@marcusdolby1 I understand that there is a fade out and reverb swell involved, the sound I'm hearing in these demos is so much more crude and feedback-y than the recording. This demo sounds the same to me as if somebody put an analog delay pedal into feedback and then changed the time to bring the pitch down, absolutely nowhere near as smooth as on the recording. Did you compare them side by side? Maybe the recording is a combination of a divebomb and the tape echo overloading and being pitched down?

[@massimosoddu5884]

bravo.lo simuli bene.fatto bene.thanks for this video

[@MOBontv]

thank you!!!

[@rasamerlock4042]

nice. congrats too man.

[@MOBontv]

thank you!

[@chrisfleury7883]

Ace Frehley without sunglasses ?

[@jonjennings13]

don't know if you explained what that cab is? speakers?

[@MOBontv]

Thanks for watching. Its a late 60's Ampeg V4 cabinet with pre-rola greenback 1968 celestion speakers. 014 cones. My favorites.

[@davidbuzzin426]

👍🇺🇲❤THE EARLY PEDALS : WARMER, NATURAL, BETTER SAG......AFTER THAT ALL OTHER VERSIONS KEPT GETTING WORSE & WORSE🤮

[@MOBontv]

Definitely! Can't replace the real thing or duplicate. Thanks for watching

[@lect0n7]

This dude’s pretty good, but to get Van Halen’s tone he needs but the bass at about half of where it is, treble should be twice as high as it is, and Mids should be around where they are or scooped...

[@seanqhanley]

If you can believe it, to get the tone, he'd actually need a Celestion g12m (greenback, blackback, or creamback) loaded 4x12 (like a marshall, friedman, or EVH cab), because that extra presence rolloff you're hearing comes from that Ampeg cab in the video. With a cranked plexi or trainwreck or similar amp, the mids knob adds more perceived gain and clarity, the treble knob adds the bite, and the bass knob changes the attack (it doesn't work like an EQ off a Mesa or a 5150), so the cab makes all the difference in the tone after the initial amp distortion kicks in. I'd love to hear this setup through the right cab though for sure

[@zhou_sei]

scooped mids? for van halen?

[@pastorkev777]

@@zhou_sei Eddys classic sound was mid forward for sure.

[@mikecorey8370]

Couldn't hear the phase shifters at all.

[@MOBontv]

that effect is definitely subtle. Probably the cool thing about it. Thanks for watching

[@mikebeaulieu3393]

Quit listening on your cell phone...

[@leonsnow3071]

good chops but didn't sound anything like end of Eruption echo

[@MOBontv]

thanks for watching. Eddie definitely used that echo unit. Remember at the time in 1977 when he recorded it, those tape units were brand new. Mine is a bit weathered but still gets the job done

[@thendara69]

if ya want the real deal,get an ep3; dont bother with univox,they'r crap

[@MOBontv]

they are! I have a video with an ep3 I still gig with. But the end of eruption was definitely an EC-80. I can only hope that when they were new, they ran better for eddie.

[@papawx3]

While I respect EVH and what he has done to inspire an entire generation to play guitar, his style just never suited me. Most 80s guitarist don't. I guess that makes me an old fart. I prefer earlier styles. Of the 80s guitarist, I'd say SRV was by far the best.

[@BillDerBerg]

SRV was a Hendrix clone... why would you consider him more worthy of praise than an Indonesian kid from Pasadena who built his own guitar out of second hand parts and made the only debut album that changed both the way guitars were played and the way guitars were made for basically a generation?

[@BillDerBerg]

@@mulfss yes and grew up in Pasadena