Model scenery: barbed wire and trenches (and a tip to prevent warped bases)

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This video tells you how I made my trench scenery for WW2 wargames, as the barbed wire. It also gives a useful tip about how you can prevent your bases from warping after you add ground texture to them.. It also gives you my recipe for ground texture.
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Model scenery: barbed wire and trenches (and a tip to prevent warped bases)
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[@moonasha]

I don't make any of these model things or play minis games but goddam I like these videos

[@tgchan]

Same here xD but I love how much work is put in these little details! I would love to come over to Lindy and play this game with him but do it alone? big no no xD

[@katelikesrectangles]

tgchan I enjoy that it's a balance between details and practicality :)

[@DutchBlackMantha]

I'm embarrassed to say I was waiting quite a while for the list of things Lindy doesn't bother with.

[@arjay232]

DutchBlackMantha I've been waiting a week so far.

[@jamesforgie6594]

Heh, he really doesn’t bother with them.

[@TheAmusingMe]

If you heat the aluminum with a gas torch (or stove top) it will oxidize and darken, might give a more 'seasoned' look, although a bit of rust colored paint would still look nice.

[@mh1ultramarine]

and here I was filling tiny bags with sand

[@Kava_Gus]

+Michael Hughes historically accurate af

[@MatrixPanda]

+Michael Hughes Haha, You deserve an award for that historical accuracy...Where they tea bags by any chance? I wonder how well tea bags would work...

[@CrizzyEyes]

Good God, how fine was the sand!?

[@gundenordstrom8123]

+Crazy Eyes I'd assume it's something called fech-fech. it's a sand that's as fine as talcum powder

[@MrHendrix17]

@@CrizzyEyes that's the trick, use coarse sand and you'll only need a few grains per bag

[@tetsubo57]

Never leave home without a rucksack full of trenches.

[@ironpirate8]

Just don't put your wallet in your pocket if it's full of foxholes.

[@johnbunyan5834]

tetsubo57 . Why not put these rather frail trenches, men, barbed wire etc. in a few cardboard boxes and place them in one’s estate car, instead of squashing then up in a rucksack ?

[@mikeadams3722]

For the foxholes, you could glue the men onto a small piece of thin plasticard and slot that into the foxhole. Then when the men move on, you just take them out so you don't need separate models for empty foxholes. One more thing, have you considered adding a spoon of sand to your basing mix (Tetrion + PVA + poster paint), that adds realistic dirt texture and paints up really well with a bit of dry-brushing.

[@Cal6009]

You can also get corrugated cardboard by peeling apart the layers of basically any cardboard box.

[@glorvalmacglorvas171]

sooo your barbed wire is made of barbed wire basically

[@Grej2]

it is actaully sharp

[@ishashka]

The kind of mesh you're using is called expanded metal. I used to work in a factory that made it, but only for two and a half days. Why? Because the edges really are sharp. Dangerously sharp. And the thinner, the sharper. *WARNING, GORY STORY AHEAD* That meant we needed to wear thick leather gloves when handling it. On the third day, I was loading a roll of thin mesh into a straightener (big, scary machine). The edge caught my glove and pulled it into the machine. It ripped the skin on two of my fingers pretty badly, removed one of the fingernails, and on the other finger crushed a tiny bit of bone on the tip (the nail got also split in two along with the skin underneath it, so it had to be removed to make place for sutures). Luckily, the nerves and tendons were untouched, so now I'm left with two pretty scars, one slightly misshapen fingernail and one off-center fingertip. I can still play the piano, so it's not bad. Also, watching the fingernails slowly grow back was fascinating. So yeah, don't mess around with expanded metal. Especially around heavy machinery.

[@Trustme722]

Take standard cardboard. Pull off one side, leaving the bit in the middle completely attached to one of the sides you pulled off. The resulting effect is perfect for making corrugated type metal

[@bilkyasko]

You can get crafting crimpers that give a corrugated effect to paper and card. You can also get wavy crimpers too for a basic wave effect. It's good to know as many methods as possible for making something, I think - you can ensure the best effect for what you want to do that way.

[@betholschowka8865]

I've made corrugated sheets (for fairy gardens) using aluminum (U.S. spelling) soda cans. I cut off the tops & bottoms, then into a flat sheet. I have a good number of knitting needles, so I use them, alternating one under, one over the aluminum sheet, then press them close to each other in as flat a plane as possible. You might even be able to vary the size or depth of corrugation by using different sizes of needles *Double-pointed needles work best, as they do not have a head at one end that causes them to lie at an angle.

[@adambailey2500]

You know lindybeige, people watch other people play tabletop games like Warhammer 40k, so you could show us one of your games.

[@Getz-Da-Chompy]

Wow, I've followed this channel for a good 5 or so years but I never knew that Lloyd had made terrain tutorials too! There's always something new to find on this channel

[@TheStugbit]

To make my wargames I usually play on the floor making quilts and blankets as the ground. Hills and such are made by putting any kind of cloth or even the model boxes under those blankets. For the bushes I use green painted cotons mushes and I bought some Lego trees and pines trees for the vegetation. Houses, bunkers and such structures I make from balsa wood. I usually keep the plastic soldiers in it's original individual bases. It somehow gives me more flexibility to shape attack or defense groups, I think.

[@TheOnlyXuLander]

Lindybeige, the moment you pulled out the UHU I couldn't stop laughing, as an architecture student I am required to make copious amounts scaled models, I probably have the receipts to support the fact I've spent over $250 AUD on UHU alone this year (not as much as the amount on Balsa wood though)

[@zerobuddha]

personally have never been interested in making the stuff or playing it, but somehow find it quite addictive to watch, keep it up bro

[@AakeTraak]

BEIGE!

[@steveholmes11]

Extremely cool. I've seen the mesh used for wire fences, and grilled (Urban scenery). Berbed wire is an excellent innovation.

[@eostyrwinn5018]

A trick I learned to fix card that warped from PVA glue is to just coat the backside of the card in PVA as well. Once it fully dries, it warps back and flattens out the warping caused by the glue only being on one side.

[@edi9892]

Amazing! On the first glance I thought you had a commercial model but everything is made of simple materials.

[@r.bonham767]

If you peel apart cardboard, then you can use any revealed ridgey texture for that corrugated metal sheet look. Thin card words better-- particularly, coffee cup sleeves. You can also make little accordions out of 'em.

[@superstrudel]

For my bases, I used plastic sheets, but it was hard to cut : To me, your "UHU trick" is a revelation! Thank you very much

[@Whitpusmc]

Why can't I dig into my dining room table?

[@RandyKalff]

Because you don't have a shovel that small, obviously.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

Well if you want permanent holes in YOUR table, go right ahead... XD

[@Zippity181]

I know you'll never see this but the tops of disposable BBQ's are almost the same as your aluminum mesh. I imagine it would be harder to cut but it's nowhere near as shiny and would look very good if you first used the BBQ, so you got all the warping, discolorations and little bits of ash, adding an extra dimension and weathered look.

[@davidlowe1256]

I admire your work with models. I could never do anything like that though, so I’ll just stick with my legos.

[@radrev.7818]

I'd love to see a video of you playing a game of Crossfire.

[@florbengorben7651]

Someone should make a World War One wargame. Lindybeige has the stuff to do it. These trenches and barbed wire are amazing!

[@carbon1255]

There are plenty. Not many people play them, trenches exclusively are actually not so interesting or varied for war gaming.

[@florbengorben7651]

Carbon 12 cool. could you give me the name of Somme? ha see what I did there

[@michaelwellner1333]

@Lindybeige, I think a solution to the Empty Foxhole has been found, if you reverse the base, using the underside as vacated, then using paint, slightly textured, you can have both Foxes from the one "FAFFING" Hole...General Rid Stump!!!

[@Visigoth_]

Apply some "Ink Wash" and dull that aluminum! your scenery looks awesome :D

[@jamesatherton1853]

Can you make some more historical videos or Lloyd Rants videos? I really enjoyed those.

[@jaysbob]

Really interesting ideas. digging these videos. Thanks Mr. Beige.

[@fnordiumendures138]

Surely one could find some plastic mesh of the same shape, paint it metal, and not cut one's fingers every time one sets up the table.

[@lindybeige]

Yes, I have known people use plastic mosquito screen mesh.

[@patrikhjorth3291]

+Lindybeige Mosquito screen mesh (if you get the right size and type) actually looks surprisingly like barbed wire, and it is non-shiny. The aluminium mesh you have used looks excellent for razorwire, however. Actually being sharp only adds authenticity ;-)

[@dELTA13579111315]

@@patrikhjorth3291 I hate razor wire lol. I used to work for a shipping company and one time a flimsy box with a spool of razor wire in it rolled down into me (luckily I was prepared for it, though had no idea what was inside) and the razors had cut their way through the box and some got caught on my shirt

[@patrikhjorth3291]

@@dELTA13579111315 I don't think any sane person _likes_ razor wire, that's kind of the point... Also, shipping it in a flimsy box sounds like a workplace injury waiting to happen. Whoever put it in that box should be made to carry it themselves.

[@ev6558]

@@patrikhjorth3291 Any box becomes flimsy when the people shipping it handle it like it owes them money.

[@Draculord666]

Loving all these terrain videos, keep it up.

[@mikeadams3722]

OK, the number of people misunderstanding the word "revetted" in the comments is getting annoying - Lindy's pronouncing it correctly, just Google it.

[@ryanmerlino1003]

the corrugated iron in trenches was more common in British & Commonwealth trenches which means Commonwealth trenches are easier to identify if found.

[@drachenmaull]

Very usefull also for other tabletop games, thanks for sharing

[@warhammerworld1689]

Great Video👍🏻May I ask, where did you get the Crossfire Figures from👍🏻

[@Xanatos712]

An elegant solution.

[@JonasUllenius]

Was hoping this was a video abut how they did use the trenches and wire and how they did tackle them in fighting :)

[@soerenwizard]

To prevent cardboard from warping when using water based paints, you can prime it with 'dope' (a cellulose based paint).

[@dackelachtbeinig2830]

Thanks for the tips!

[@youtuechar]

I know the video is pretty old... but i used some thin plastic sheets (about half a millimeter) as bases so they won't bulge do due moisture.

[@Nutter-l3s]

Will you ever do a video of you playing a game or two? I like what we have now, but just want to see a full game.

[@littlesherlock2313]

The trenches problem could be addressed by having the ground thicker all around, therefore instead of digging into your table, you dig into the "ground" on the table top. Of course, your idea works just fine too. And is less work I imagine.

[@smitty3624]

Could you do a series similar to your one on "ironclad" about a film called "arn: the knight Templar"? I saw it and thought it was pretty good, but wanted to know how historically accurate it was.

[@JohnMiller-zr8pl]

That phrase at the ending 😁

[@frederickharriman9779]

You are a LOT of fun. Keep it up!

[@Zappygunshot]

Another way to make trenches look alright is by making modular terrain elevations (just use cork or something like that) that you can move around and create gaps in that you can then sink a trench into. Not particularly useful if you want your troops to dig a foxhole on the fly though. Imagine having to move all the land around you in a 150 feet radius just to dig a hole the size of a pond...

[@daverino2577]

Amazing creative video

[@JHouse4]

Lindybeige: have you tried putting the aluminium in a bath? I'm thinking bleach and salt might work, or something with a similar effect, maybe plus a little dye? And you could use corrugated cardboard for that iron. And for the entrenched figures, why not just make figures from the bust up on their own, so you could put them in any trench and have the full height copy for when you move them out? That way you don't need to duplicate any trenches.

[@lindybeige]

It's the figures that take the time.

[@dixonj41]

Hey Lloyd, could you please do some videos on the Roman Miltiary? Specifically Post-Marian? Cheers!

[@jamesfranklin5541]

If one uses a spray bottle to mist one side of corrugated cardboard from any old box, the wer side pulls off, leaving a great corrugated iron

[@ElizaberthUndEugen]

Good idea. I feel kinda stupid now having tried so many less obvious solutions that didn't work half as well.

[@IRAMightyPirate]

3:50, you win everything.

[@mrfourtwenty8506]

I like how the barbed wire was functional

[@TheTrueReiniat]

Interesting fact about UHU, its from a German company, and for some reason its always in spanish, no matter what country youre in.

[@riverbank7971]

mesh- also good for making realistic looking leadwork on period windows :D

[@blackoak4978]

For barbed wire I go with two thin wires twisted together, primed and painted(a matter finish for the primer and a wash for the paint works well enough, and if it chips it's just a bit that's not rusty). The barbs on barbed wire really wouldn't be visible at the scale of the game, so there is no reason to actually make *barbed* wire

[@TheLeem666]

love you Lindy c:

[@Bigbacon]

god I remember doing something similar with battletech so long ago. Our table never looked this good though and we did it all with Styrofoam.

[@LoOnyCal]

you can also pull one side of a sheet of cardboard and instant corrugated sheeting

[@rainyvideos3684]

Lindybeiege I got a question. Is there anywhere that you'd reccommend where I can get my own terrain without having to make it. I'm considering getting into minitures with either Crossfire and Bolt Action and I want to see if I can just get premade terrain too start with.

[@OhMyTwitch]

These are great! ..but have you ever thought about doing a different terrain, like a winter or desert set? Also, would that affect the gameplay at all?

[@lindybeige]

I did consider doing Finnish Winter War, but I decided that having to make everything in a snow-covered version was just more work that I was prepared to do. I know of one scenario that has rules for movement in deep snow.

[@manfallsoffchair]

Lindybeige What about switching the leafy trees out and then covering everything with some sort of fake snow, like the kind you can sprinkle on the bottom of christmas trees? Maybe a few frozen puddles. A bit of vacuuming may be involved when you want to change the season, but vacuuming is fun.

[@katelikesrectangles]

Lindybeige Is there something you could use for temporary snow, which you could put over existing scenery, and then peel it off when you're feeling summery?

[@MDWolfe]

just fyi you can make better barbed wire with two sets of painting wire (for hanging) one smaller gauge than the other, wrap the thick one around a pen or pencil tauntly to make it spring, then the thinner one you slowly wrap about it. It has the right color from the get go and no actual risk to stabbing yourself or hanging on things.

[@eog0579]

Dear lindybeige could you tell me what scale figures do you use please?

[@roundishwhale]

A toast advertisement before the Video..how disappointing...I expected a Tea advertisement ;-) 2:44 well to be precisely you can dig the holes in the Table, but it would be quite a nuisance

[@daver5120]

Lindybeige!

[@1verstapp]

>focus Ave, another channel, has voice-activated focusing, ''Focus, fuck you!'' it generally works...

[@Abaddon3x7]

for the corrugated metal trenches, open cardboard up, take the top layer of brown paper off, and the layer under it it is corrugated.

[@AshleyBlackwater]

Can't upvote this enouth, easiest way to get the stuff, and you can get longer sections of corrugated card that way

[@hissingweasel]

My trench board isn't modular but it looks cool. I used a sheet of insulation foam and cut into it

[@lindybeige]

That can work, but it isn't an option for someone with no estate car to move things with.

[@Multra]

If you want to texture your sandbags get some cheesecloth and press it against the material.

[@lindybeige]

Yes, this can work, I've tried it, although my fingerprints often do a fair job.

[@maxpayne2574]

The boy that never grew-up with rucksack full of trenches a bike and dreams of being dungeon master

[@britishrailways4810]

I find that the top of chicken wire works well as barbed wire. I caught it on my finger and it cut my finger in several places.

[@Mewobiba]

Any suggestions for making 1/285 or 1/300 scale terrain?

[@ScrollsAdventures]

It's too bad that trench comprises wouldn't work with rulesets that use true line of sight, like warhammer 40k. I really like the look and design of that. When I made terrain professionally I made a trench table at one point. It was a bit of work, but surprisingly affordable. Here, I've got pictures if anyone is interested :) nekoheehee.deviantart.com/art/Trench-Warfare-Gaming-Table-195011802

[@TheMinidow]

if your opponent can't agree a trench is a trench and grants cover in 40k, find a new one, he's not going to be fun to play against.

[@ScrollsAdventures]

TheMinidow You could use these trenches as they are, but I think most people I've played with would say it's a shallow trench and only grant partial cover, and not much of it at that. On top of that, models can obscure other models, so if you're pretending that they are deep into the table then you have to consider how deep, how much they cover models behind them, and if they are shooting at someone outside of the trench, where do they draw their line of sight from. It effects a lot more rules than just "it's a trench, if gives a cover save of this much" It's really an issue of how line of sight and cover works based on model hight.

[@CustomLime]

If you are playing with 7th edition rules if you are within the terrain piece you get the cover save. Just agree that trenches count as "Ruins" in terms of determining cover and you're good to go.

[@MyGamerforlife]

I think the emphasis on "rivet" is on RIV.

[@LightAndSportyGuy]

WOW! Someone found an actual use for that mesh garbage that doesn't work for auto body repairs!

[@RobertShyanNorwalt]

You can make aluminum iron colored with drano

[@guest426]

Your wire obstacle, and all obstacles really, should be beyond grenade range. That way, the enemy can't simply lob grenades at you from the other side of the obstacle. It's doctrine today, but I'm sure it comes from way back.

[@emokid1091]

Your true calling is that of the Blue Peter presenter

[@edward_jacobs]

Have you tried making chain-link fences using the tabs on soda cans? (I'm not sure soda would be called in England, I would assume it's pop or maybe just "fizz juice") You can use the tabs to make chainmail armor too (albeit very tedious to make)

[@paulbriody297]

You know, I actually waited to read the things you didn't bother with until it clicked, hehe.

[@jorunholm9060]

Specalasasion is the key

[@KairuHakubi]

I love british brand names, I don't know what it is about that

[@РоманГогешвили]

WHERE do I buy the corebook/whatever original rule compilation there is? All I can find online is additions n side materials. ffs

[@Direwoof]

Have you ever heard of bolt action? That's what I play and its like the game you play, I think you would enjoy it.

[@Earthenfist]

I think that Polyfilla is basically spackle?

[@lindybeige]

Just Googled for that, and it seems that the answer is 'yes'. Wall filler stuff. Looks like plaster.

[@tomryder3641]

Lindy, try an ink or watered down brown/coppery/red or something over the wire. Will look tops.

[@blackoak4978]

Tom Ryder still need a primer though, washes don't like bare metal

[@thehajduk6451]

I think you could've also added and put more sand bags on top of those that you already made in order to make it look even more like treches.

[@TheLateRepublic]

I think these could be useful for Warhammer 40k

[@MerlijnDingemanse]

I just use triplex wood for the basings

[@jonp9285]

try using oil on the wire and rub it off

[@Zappygunshot]

+derp derpington Best to do that before cutting it though. Less snagging and self-inflicted injuries.

[@NugsSlugsBugs]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@MarvelDcImage]

I use chiclets gum for sandbags - well the alternate universe version me who actually makes models uses chiclet gum rather than this universe's me who just imagines making models one day but doesn't really.

[@brianfoley4328]

What do you mean I can't carve trenches into the Dining Table....am I in trouble ?

[@garouHH]

If you want to find the Private, I know where he is, I know where he is, I know where he is...

[@TheFish711]

What about making figures that can be separated in halves at the hip or stomach and the top could be placed in a "trench" that now doesn't need to be raised too much and when the figure moves they can simply be put back together.

[@AshleyBlackwater]

Could always make the trench walls a bit higher, it doesn't look that out of place as long as the depth isn't more than half as high as buildings and trees around it

[@thehypergamer9873]

the ending

[@h0lx]

I wonder if you could electroplate it with copper first to make it darker and much more old metal looking once the copper tarnishes

[@SgtKOnyx]

I am embarrassed at how long it took me to get the last joke

[@amazur31]

Where;s the killroy text?!

[@johnbunyan5834]

How does one play this game ? Is there a sort of Monopoly board around whic trenches, men and barbed wire are moved ? Go to Jail becomes ago to the Glasshouse and Collect 200 rounds for passing go.