Modern Samurai Project Black Belt Standards

Sawyer and Aaron check out the Black Belt Standards put out by Scott Jedlinski of Modern Samurai Project. Both are running Glocks out of the AXIS Elite holsters.
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3 yards - Draw, 3 rounds a-zone, 2 rounds 3x5 head box - 2.00 seconds
7 yards - Draw, 1 round a-zone - 1.00 seconds
7 yards - Draw, 6 rounds a-zone - 2.00 seconds
25 yards - Draw, 1 round a-zone - 1.5 seconds
To earn the MSP Black Belt Patch you must pass these four standards in one of Scott's classes. They must be done in this order and consecutively.
All standards are from concealment. If not concealed, then the following will be added to your time:
Any holster no retention - Add .10 seconds.
(Time is 2.00 add .1 for total of 2.10)
ALS + SLS - Subtract .1
ALS Only - No extra time added

[@cherryswole]

Man the Bill drill sub 2 is no joke! I don't think people grasp just how difficult that is until they try it. Solid shooting fellas. 🙌

[@byronbranch4645]

It's spicy.for.sure. from a level two retention holster i did it in like 2.3 seconds lol. These dudes are crazy fast

[@rickm4295]

Aaron is getting damn good.. He has really been taking misses hard lately and now its paying off.

[@Adam_B_Shooting]

Aaron bringing the heat this time. I’m looking forward to Scott’s class this December.

[@Tier1Concealed]

it will be a good one!

[@codyrichardson6038]

Great shooting guys. I pulled a Sawyer on my attempt in class and shot a .9 1 shot at the 7 but was just an inch wide. Clean the rest of the way. Walked away with a 3/4 baby black belt patch. Scott is definitely one of the best instructors I’ve ever trained with. Training with him hopefully twice next year, that black belt patch is top of my list to get next. Going for Donnovan’s standards next!

[@Tier1Concealed]

That’s awesome!! Well done!

[@macfolkers1774]

The hardest part for me is you test these at the very end of the day during his class. After 8 hours of shooting/learning you're gassed both mentally and physically. The most difficult to pass is the subsecond single at least in my experience.

[@bake7221]

I have heard that Scott will let you come shoot the standards when he’s in your area.

[@Mr3dperformance]

I’m taking the class in June in Missouri. I’m practicing the drills and they all same to hinge on the sub second draw and that’s where I’m focusing most. Well, and many other competencies.

[@Wolf_1775]

Jedi is a master at what he does. Hunter is a straight up BAMF too. The Black Belt Standards are unforgiving, but an awesome way to track a whole host of things. Also pretty wild seeing some of the video I made during one of his classes show up elsewhere. :D

[@JayMacklin]

Im so impressed with not only your shooting skills but you guys are both so calm and smooth on your discussion. It’s very relaxing to watch and listen 😂

[@Tier1Concealed]

haha thanks so much, man! much appreciated

[@JohnDoe-wz7lw]

You guys are one of the FEW gun IG/KZbin community that don't put out fucking cringe content. And thank God I don't have to see another tacpack ad.

[@Tier1Concealed]

haha thank you!

[@willr4880]

Thanks for the post. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@bobbyholmes832]

Admittedly, I re-watch this drill video for the Bob Uecker insert. We say that all the time around here.

[@Tier1Concealed]

classic!

[@Osprey1994]

If you aren't following Scott...you should be. Him and a number of individuals he works with are absolutely monstrous with handguns.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Yep, he is solid!

[@hsidder]

Great shooting gentlemen. Aaron was money this go!

[@ben_3256]

Just took the MSP two day red dot course with Russ Lyons as the instructor. I had a blast and have so much to work on. Will be taking the class again in the future.

[@cyberlycans4191]

Creating a whole new patch for people who couldn't pass the standard?! These standards are very challenging, and yes doing three out of four of them is still amazing, that being said, If that doesn't sound like a friggin participation trophy I don't know what does.

[@Tier1Concealed]

like you said, 3/4 is still amazing, shooting in class, on the spot, under pressure, in front of everyone, and only one shot at it. Doesn't sound like participation will get you that haha. So far I've only heard of handful of people even getting that far. And its also just a baby samurai lol

[@cyberlycans4191]

@@Tier1Concealed with all the momentum over the last few years calling people out for getting something when they didn't pass or finish first, an "I almost passed it" immediately sounds like that... in fact that's exactly what it is.

[@rickpineo2588]

Sawyer is on his way to grandmaster status! He’s a animal!💪🏻

[@RogerBarrera]

Heck yeah! Good stuff guys! I’m gonna try this out now as well!

[@paulh6101]

Handheld light and weapon light do not correlate. Handheld is always, weapon light is optional. Doesn't work the other way around...

[@2aisabsoluteTim]

Agreed

[@medickmike]

Noooooo can't just spit facts like that.

[@hopewilliams6705]

Handheld always even if you have a weapon light! Still frowned upon to point your gun at someone.

[@cornydad]

Nice shooting! I use Active Self Protection to get a data set on what self-defense encounters are like plus I've been in ones that I didn't have to shoot. It seems to me that it's extremely unlikely that a private citizen will use a gun mounted light outside the home. I carry a light as a non-lethal investigative tool as well as a method to light blind a possible assailant.

[@ayjmedia]

The bro's always spreading knowledge for the community, thank you

[@TheWhiteboy40]

I'm one the carriers both a Hand held on my person at all times + a WML on my G17 all the time as well. Along with a spare magazine. Both light serve completely different purposes out in the field. I use my HHL "Hand held light" every day for personal and work use. I'm in the PSD field and I'm using it for multiple reasons. Lights are a great tool to add...but you have to use them + learn to manipulate them in your hands/fingers to understand and except the different options you will learn/see from doing so. Off note: You guys are killing it on the progressive skills. All of you are climbing higher n higher each new video. SJ is coming to my range next month and We can't wait.

[@SACO32]

How many of the guys use a wedge on your holster? I'm like A-sizz, I prefer to adjust my holster by one adjustment to allow a better grip from draw, however I feel like it flips my grip out a little bit since I'm not quit as buff as Aaron 😅 so it doesn't sit flat against me.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Some of us use wedges, some don't. It also depends on the gun being carried, typically smaller subcompacts can benefit more from the wedges since they can be a little "top heavy" in the holster.

[@johncarpenter6219]

Recently went back to non-weapon light as well. Older I get, I’m more for comfort, and I really don’t go out and about at night. Hand held light will be available, though.

[@johnsimons5396]

I shoot a CZ P07 with a light and holosun green dot

[@E57det7I]

I think Massad Ayoob made the most salient point on the weapon light issue. To paraphrase... For a self-defense situation, why are you going to use a flashlight? To identify and verify your target. Obviously. This by definition implies that if you identify a non-target, you have now pointed a lethal weapon at a civilian, one who could press charges on you even if you save their life. A handheld light allows you to identify targets, without pointing your weapon at them. Until I hear a better argument, this is the ideology I carry by.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Yep, exactly. We completely agree, that’s a rough situation to put yourself in, especially as a civilian.

[@CTorres_1993]

Handheld light and a tlr7 for me. I think having the short light makes holsters more comfortable for me because of the wider bottom.

[@SeventhSeal1]

Same 🤙🏻 Modlite 18650 plhv2 for a handheld.

[@Girth_Brooks01]

Who doesn't like a wide bottom?

[@samr4584]

Excellent shooting like always. I think it would be cool and kinda funny to run TRex arms 50rd pistol and or 50rd rifle standards

[@michaeldowney6533]

I'm a handheld guy. That way you can verify/identify a threat before drawing your firearm.

[@Tier1Concealed]

yep, thats probably the biggest advantage to the handheld!

[@tsflyer61]

Well done guys!

[@Tier1Concealed]

thank you!

[@typhoonKaiz07]

Handheld and wml. Just received my Axis Elite (non light bearing). It’s more comfortable so carrying 2 lights might change here soon. Really digging the Axis Elite. Y’all make the best iwb holsters on the market. Great video as always, fellas.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Good choice! We appreciate you and the support!!

[@wutsupR6]

Do a USPSA match for a future video

[@mandragoraes3947]

Always have your handheld light. Weapon light only when you feel like it or it's dark outside. wintertime especially when it gets dark early.

[@patmaloney1140]

I've been working the standards since I took Scott's class. If you haven't tried these drills, you don't understand how impressive this is. It's a matter of centimeters of technique.

[@Tier1Concealed]

They are definitely demanding!!

[@ecalzo]

So you're using the Langdon tactical Glocks?! They're internally modded by langdon's .. they do not have oem standard trigger?! thou! Am i right

[@Fullmetal_Sensei]

I just went through Scott's red dot instructor class and after a whole day these drills get even harder. I managed to get 2 out of 4 with a super close miss at 7 and 25. But great Shooting guys and way to crush it.

[@Tier1Concealed]

thanks!

[@paairmen7458]

What triggers y’all running 🏃‍♀️

[@Tier1Concealed]

apex trigger worked on by Langdon Tactical

[@joshleonard7163]

What pants are you guys wearing lol. I need some better range pants.

[@Tier1Concealed]

In this video we are wearing UF Pro Striker's and Crye Precision pants

[@eddiepereira9628]

Great video. Seems to me that Point 1 Tactics Standards are a little more spicy than the MSP. Those four one inch holes just kick my ass.

[@Tier1Concealed]

oh you're talking about the P1T pistol cold standard. Check out his Elite Performance Standards!

[@2Amend4Life]

I always carry a handheld when I’m out. I have weapon lights also.

[@ptortland]

Nice job! I just completed Scott's 2-day RDS class here in CT. He's an excellent instructor - so far, the best pistol class I've taken. And the drills are really challenging! Just as importantly, the drills give you something to work on on your own, even doing dry fire (to practice the draw). The RDS class is more than just "red dot." He gets deep into core competencies, and he shatters many of the myths perpetuated by so many instructors.

[@byronbranch4645]

I just finished it yesterday. Class was awesome.

[@davidaguilar8523]

Do a review on those LTT Glock! How does the LTT apex trigger compare to a regular apex trigger?

[@rickpineo2588]

Drill suggestion guys. How about Ernest Langdons X drill?

[@Choppipappi17]

Well I carry with no weapon light that being said I would switch over with my knowledge now

[@fullfire0]

A glock 19 with ramjet afterburner will also fit a glock 19 Axis Elite holster with threaded barrel option. It sticks out very slightly past the end but fits great

[@Tier1Concealed]

yep, however, it will fit the Glock 17 option a little better since the comp will be completely covered

[@fullfire0]

@@Tier1Concealed Yeah if you know you're going to run the afterburner before hand, def buy the 17 version, but for people like me who already had a glock 19 axis elite and got the afterburner later, it helps to know it'll work. Love your holsters!

[@christisking1193]

Can I just get the “Blue Belt” standards please.

[@TylerHunt556]

What glasses is sawyer wearing?

[@OnTheTOfTwo]

What’s it say about your career when part of your video ends up in a Tier 1 video? I made it mom. I made it 🤘

[@Tier1Concealed]

Yep, its official, you've made it! (you had already made it long ago 😉)

[@OnTheTOfTwo]

Y’all are gonna make me blush 🥰

[@JustMikeyB]

I like an EDC light and a weapon light. I go everywhere with my EDC light (Warrior 3).

[@tdbarton7712]

Always enjoy and learn from your videos. Thanks for posting the various trainers' standards. Fun to watch you guys shoot and your comments about your performance.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@lucassales6794]

What gun setups yall using ? Nice video

[@Tier1Concealed]

Aaron is running a Langdon Tactical G17 Gen5 with a Leupold Deltapoint Pro. Sawyer has the Langdon G45 with an SRO and Radian ramjet and afterburner.

[@joeb2526]

Well well….. A-aron getting it done!!!

[@1shooter402]

That was awesome! I hope to take his class, I’ve already learned tons from his videos and Podcast.

[@locoflahute8916]

Solid shooting. Fyi, Streamlight 7A thumb screw sheared off on my Staccato C2 during Travis Haley low light course.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thanks! And dang, that's unfortunate! The screw broke? Have you reached out to streamlight for warranty?

[@raftika1]

I carry both handheld and wml

[@jessecash3047]

Is the hat they are both wearing from T1C?

[@Tier1Concealed]

No, those are from Hades Consulting.

[@jeremyhartsell2750]

If Garth from Wayne's world was a pistol smith, he would be Sawyer.

[@rickpineo2588]

Drill suggestions. Langdon super test and super rear on steroids

[@Suprdsm]

Great shooting as usual gents! Sawyer, how do you like those Sordins/Swatcoms?

[@Clarkshooter]

I like em. Comfy and good sound

[@hapkidoglock]

They would be more challenging with the timer set to random. You can get used to "standby" then the beep right after, it makes a difference. Still some awesome shooting.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Yeah we use random sometimes and instant other times. Depending on who is running the timer it’s still a random beep 😂

[@AllOuttaNine]

Ah, he's tightened up his mulligan count. Used to be 2 per attempt according to his comment on Travis McCamish's run. Very good shooting!

[@Tier1Concealed]

it could very well still be 2 mulligans, we just weren't sure when we filmed this so we kept it with 1.

[@Blain5700]

Carry both lights.

[@PulseGamingRd0923]

Aaron you went off 🔥🔥

[@Jcestanley]

Don’t really have a hard stance but as a civilian I’d say a separate light would be better…if you need a light you may not need to have your concealed carry out pointing it around.

[@Tier1Concealed]

yep, so true

[@PaulyP_13]

Scott is great. Took MSP1 in April. The real deal

[@gavenevans]

Carry both lights

[@whatTHEbertttt]

Video idea: have someone keep feeding mags into someone's mag carriers and see how many consecutive slide lock reloads they can do. 😂

[@Tier1Concealed]

😂😂😂 this sounds expensive

[@outdooradventuretrainingsy6009]

Your bill drill performance was very impressive

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thanks!!

[@Patrick_Bateman____]

4:47 I have personally witnessed an instructor fail a demo miserably. I won’t say what company but it’s a big one.

[@Tier1Concealed]

nobody is perfect, but its an easy way to lose some credibility if you can't demonstrate what you're teaching.

[@Patrick_Bateman____]

@@Tier1Concealed True

[@alexm5656]

Awesome fucking shooting boys. Great content

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thanks so much!!

[@samuelmatos-2ndamendmentad41]

The drills and standards are awesome, but you guys are incredibly shooters.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thank you!!

[@MrEsPlace]

Hey guys! I need a way to comfortably, inconspicuously and easily carry while I’m running. So it can't rub, can't be heavy, must be waterproof, tight and secure, easy to clean and a fast draw. Maybe a bag like a Camelbak with a holster so it can carry my phone and some water too. You guys interested?

[@lb7addict687]

What pants are y’all’s go to? It’s hard to find pants that really work well with conceal carry setup that are sturdy and have wide enough belt loops that support an Elite type holster.

[@Tier1Concealed]

We wear all sorts of pants from regular blue jeans to vertx delta stretch pants, Kuhl brand, Fjallraven, UF Pros, Crye, etc.

[@lb7addict687]

@@Tier1Concealed Thanks for the response! I’ll have to try some of them.

[@michealturcotte9844]

Nice

[@chap23305]

Many times, your handheld is going to come out prior to drawing your weapon. Weapon light is for two-handed grip if I do have to engage.

[@vikingtractor6065]

You guys rock. Love the calm energy. Enjoyed the video.

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thanks so much!

[@Warrior-X]

Yeah, more drills. 👍🏻

[@Tier1Concealed]

On it!

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

i carry both a tac light and handheld light.

[@Tier1Concealed]

The ideal situation

[@AnDy.Strong]

🔥

[@timcastle9506]

I am new to this, that was impressive. Can someone tell me the size of the headbox and center mass boxes? Thanks

[@Tier1Concealed]

I think the headbox is 3”x5” and the a-zone is the standard uspsa a-zone, roughly 6”x11” I believe

[@timcastle9506]

@@Tier1Concealed thank you!

[@timcastle9506]

@@Tier1Concealed my axis slim is due to arrive tomorrow. Looking forward to the practice of the draw.

[@sonsofnewengland835]

For a civilian who is concealed carrying, a handheld light is the much better option. Get a good handheld and train with it.

[@seanoneil277]

Having a light is good. But what is the point of intentionally shooting with an inferior grip? You can get a WML and free up that other hand to make a superior grip on the pistol. Why is a handheld better? If it's because you don't want to think you have to use your WML for basic lighting tasks, have a handheld also.

[@dubtron12]

I like handheld because I don’t need to point my firearm at whatever I’m trying to identify. Buuut I also have a weapon light lol

[@seanoneil277]

@@dubtron12 You said it better than I did! 👍

[@kayinoue2497]

Making it look easy. Really pleasant to watch too.

[@Tier1Concealed]

thanks so much!!

[@jameywallace5010]

Great shooting guys!

[@fonix127]

Why not both? (handheld light and gun light)

[@1881Speedy]

I agree when it’s fall and daylight is not as abundant. The summer though handheld is perfect

[@jamjamtaba]

Looks spicy good

[@deno7482]

👏👏👍👍💯

[@mattgill69]

This is straight fire. You guys are awesome

[@Tier1Concealed]

thank you!

[@cs7285]

Yeaaaaaah buddyyyyy Ain’t nothin but a peanut!

[@Tier1Concealed]

LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYYY

[@bulleit9459]

Excellent shooting as usual! 👍👍

[@Tier1Concealed]

thank you!

[@OlsonArms]

I just started aiwb carry and yalls video have helped a ton. Shot a lot growing up but was mainly sporting clays and rifles so transitioning to pistols has been a learning curve for sure. Yall definitely provide good info standards and products

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thats awesome! Thanks so much

[@JakeSchlade]

Go, Vols

[@swiftaudi]

Well done!

[@bgarza5506]

Does Aaron get a patch?

[@Tier1Concealed]

No, it must be done in one of Scott's classes to get a patch. That itself adds a whole new level of stress and difficulty

[@frankthe_tank88]

Guys, your eye pro, why?

[@Tier1Concealed]

its just to protect our eyes lol

[@shhhboss3139]

Pretty decent tbh

[@Tier1Concealed]

barely

[@joshroten3997]

Good drill. 👍

[@Tier1Concealed]

Thanks 👍

[@daveintransit7592]

I just went through his red dot instructor course and these standards are really difficult. I would recommend the course to anyone who has considered it, but may be on the fence.

[@Banksi]

If you're not a cop or military, you don't need a light on your gun. You're going to need a light way more often than a gun, and when you aren't wearing a duty belt, it doesn't make sense to carry a light on your gun and a separate light.

[@VegasStacker702]

I just signed up for an msp class cant wait

[@Tier1Concealed]

thats going to be a good one!

[@VegasStacker702]

Any tips on gear recommendations I'll need? Maybe some tier 1 gear

[@rickyramirez3483]

Great shooting! AIR ASSAULT!

[@retiredarmyvet2018]

Maybe if these guys focused on actually making their holsters and not making youtube videos they could get their products out in a timely manner. I don't understand how it takes 30 days to make a simple kydex holster. They say they are "Custom hand made" and this is why it takes so long. Yet we all know how kydex holsters are made. I mean really guys there are thousands of videos of guys making these holsters and it literally takes 30 minutes start to finish. I could see a leather holster taking this long but not a kydex one. Then they ship it out with DHL or USPS ground and charge $12 for shipping. So you are looking at about two months from time of order to it arriving at your door. Don't get me wrong, I have ordered two holster now because I like them. But this will be the last one. T-rex Arms has the same Kydex holster and they have them at your door in 7 days for $30 less. Teir 1 really needs to reevaluate their business model.

[@dubtron12]

Careful everyone! We have an expert in the chat!!

[@retiredarmyvet2018]

@@dubtron12 Not an expert. Just a customer that knows shitty customer service and horrible business practices when I see them. Any company that will not allow orders to be cancelled 24 hours after being placed and then failing to deliver their product in the advertised time frame is shady at best. Not to mention not allowing returns. Please explain how it takes Teir 1 30 plus days to make a plastic holster when everyone else is doing it in 3.