Modernizing the G3 - HK91 | The Swedish 🇸🇪 AK4D 🇸🇪 (HK91-G3 Part 2)

[@9HoleReviews]

Don't forget to check out the Part 1 episode of the G3! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHW2qpyshLiFfqM (Germany's G3 - HK91, the birth of H&K (Heckler & Koch) - feat. PTR-91) I did forget to mention that I have a no.17 locking piece in this rifle, which slows the carrier speed slightly too.

[@ryancawdor6946]

Do you have a parts list? I have the same PTR and would love to replicate this.

[@investigativeoutcomes9343]

what was the twist rate again?

[@KimonyJohansson]

Its not a true AK4 because the iron sights are not removed, just so you know.

[@brianrolfe1742]

​@@KimonyJohanssonwhich is stated multiple times in the video. Thank you Capt. Obvious

[@shaggymanson5375]

Havn't watched part 1, but considering the popularity and widespread use of the mp5, i am surprised the G3 wasn't used more widely. Also shout out to the FAL hate that the uk dropped it for the L96 sutch a down grade

[@AdministrativeResults]

You guys crushed this.

[@Hk7762Tube]

OMG it's Garand Thumb!

[@The_Hi_Life]

@@Hk7762Tube🤣

[@Normac1994]

Please review the AK4/AK5 🇸🇪

[@ThePatriotParadox]

They always do

[@ThePatriotParadox]

​​@@Hk7762Tubeou mean Travis Haley ..lol

[@shootinnscootin5545]

My PTR91 has a Magpul PRS2 stock which has an adjustable cheek rest and LOP and a Midwest Industries Mlok rail system with a BCM hand stop and a Witt Machine SME muzzle brake and a 2-10x30MPVO. Is it heavy? Yes! Is it longer than my AR carbine? Yes. But for the purpose of a DMR it's perfect. The recoil is very manageable. I even have a video on my channel of me hip firing it with one hand. With that being said, I am a firm believer that there is a weapon for everyone and a weapon for every application. If you want to have an easy to carry weapon that is good for room clearing and CQB then a G3/HK91/PTR91 is not the rifle for you. But if you want a solid and reliable rifle with the capability of engaging targets out to 800 to 1,000 yards that can still be used for shorter engagements then these rifles are hard to beat.

[@shootinnscootin5545]

kzbin.infotLxWEt7oDvo?si=cI9aCgIZGJdFUyuW PTR91 Hip firing one handed.

[@XL1813]

The stock change on the AK4D is a game changer. The old stock basically assumed you had arms like a orangutan.

[@ldkbudda4176]

Yes! AK4D is suited for gays , too! ;)

[@XL1813]

@@ldkbudda4176 Really? You must be some kind of expert on gay stuff then.

[@Rick2010100]

Great job! It would be nice if you make a video about the red-dot optics, i knew there was a video ca. a years ago, but i would like to see a detailed comparison to classic sights.

[@andreastoninelli8075]

Sweden is also facing out the ak5 for the sako 5.56 carbins

[@noerden91]

AK4 the right arm of the homeGuard

[@trashedmechanic1987]

This is definately one of those videos I really need to be on patreon for. Comments section of boobtube just doesn't work well for this. Great vid guys

[@mcantu197]

Have you tried the #17 36 degree locking piece and enhanced buffer to help with the recoil?

[@djdrack4681]

So, I gotta ask being a civ...why no 45deg offset reddot? Bcuz of the backup irons? I'd think even with something like a 1-8 lpvo you'd be rocking it at 8x most of the time with a micro reddot offset for sudden close distance or CQB scenarios. If you went to something a bit more powerful like a 4-12x or 4-16x like Primary Arms offers in Slx series, you'd be at that low magnification that an offset would make more sense. Does the longer buffer help eliminate the damage to brass that prevents reloading; and consequently is bane of us regulars when using this?

[@Bruciando]

You failed to mention the MAJOR shortcoming of the G3 in the assault role, which is its lack of a LRBHO and the consequent glacial time for reloads (see the InRangeTV battle rifle comparison from several years ago for the G3s last place finish in that category for more info.) Also, Spuhr's inline stock, while a necessary (dare I say mandatory?) part of the upgrade process, it is *ridiculously* overpriced for what it is, and I frankly cannot understand why no one has come up with a 3D file to print your own adapter to use an AR stock; it's not like there isn't room for the buffer in an AR tube...

[@harryballsagna4549]

It’s been a thing for a while and HK parts even sells a premade adapter.

[@WeatherMan404]

just saying that scar has a muzzle break and the g3 has a flash hider

[@HenryAusLuebeck]

Das G3 ist das beste Gewehr der Welt.

[@romanespinosa4084]

What is the 556 rifle at 17:06?

[@CGPT76]

In my Army days (Portugal) I learned that once you know the recoil and stop being afraid of the kick, you can hit your targets very well up to 400 meters!! Beyond that you have to take it slower. When I was deployed to Iraq in 04 I used as main service rifle the G36, but we also had the G3 in as backup in the armory! When ever I went on long patrols I always had a G3 in my vehicle. One day after realizing that hiding behind dirt walls was good cover for the bad guys, I thought to my self "lets see what the G3 can do!" Went back to get the G3, full 20 rounds magazine and as the started to have holes the size or oranges, the wall was not good cover anymore. For me the G3 with the SPUHR kit is a beast. Thanks for showing the Portuguese Marines😀👍

[@patriotatuga5757]

No exército no Iraque estavas em que força no exército?

[@PhobosTV1]

Hello fellow operator, can you share more stories with G3 in Iraq? Thank you

[@leonardosousa297]

Pela menção ao kit SPUHR assumo que fez parte dos fuzileiros ou comandos. Como um cadete da academia da Força Aérea, fico feliz em saber que G3s como as do Ultramar que uso são e foram usadas num contexto moderno!

[@CGPT76]

@@leonardosousa297 Não fui Fuzileiro, mas nas minhas funções eu fazia questão de estar informado e atualizado. Os Fuzileiros Portugeses continuam com a velhinha G3 e o kit SPUHR. Todas as recrutas nas Forças Armadas são com a G3 mas depois aprendem a usar a SCAR

[@leonardosousa297]

@@CGPT76 claro, para quê usar as SCAR caras e novas com os cadetes das academias, eles que carreguem os 4 quilinhos da G3 ao ombro!

[@grandpaweber2097]

The Spuhr stock was the single best upgrade to my rifle, followed by the HK "competition" trigger pack. I know what my rifle is, and more importantly, what it is NOT. Still love it. Great 2-part video, Gentlemen.

[@brandonalmeida5493]

If you ever find one, psg trigger, kraut space magic

[@chasmataz1704]

Are you located in the States? If so, where did you pick up the Spurh equipment?

[@brandonalmeida5493]

@@chasmataz1704 mile high shooting. Some other places carrying now but mile high is the importer

[@9HoleReviews]

See Part 1: Germany's G3 - HK91, the birth of H&K (Heckler & Koch) - feat. PTR-91 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHW2qpyshLiFfqM Chapter breakdown: 0:00 - Midway 00:10 - Intro Reel 01:29 - The Modernized G3 / AK4D 02:04 - Why Modernize? 03:24 - Sweden and Portugal 04:41 - Modernizing the PTR91 05:51 - The Marksman 09:05 - Accuracy 11:16 - The Assaulter 13:29 - Recoil 18:11 - Other Considerations 19:25 - So why G3? 21:26 - Civilian - Hop's G3 22:02 - Conclusion 24:52 - SBI 26:48 - Special Thanks 27:10 - Redcon

[@thenewyorkredneck4735]

If you built me one how much would it cost me? I don't have time for the work. Just tell me where to send the check

[@Hiznogood]

Nice seeing you rocking Swedish camo! 😍 Hjärtliga hälsningar från Sverige! 🇸🇪

[@johnsheppard7175]

The G3 strikes me as a good rifle to fill the same role as the Dragunov. A medium-long squad marksman's rifle, that can also serve as an assaulter.

[@brandonalmeida5493]

Basically that's its sweetspot. I run a battle rifle set up and friend runs a dmr set up. I can run with carbines, slower but bringing the harder hitting 7.62nato and can reach out with ease. Friend can and does reach out too 1000-1100yds, granted he has to put in a bit more work making shots compared to sig spear we have but it does it.

[@notluminaire]

There's the g3/sg1 variant

[@mrkeogh]

For the Norwegians and Swedes it makes perfect sense: 7.62x51mm is a better choice in an snowy environment where you're likely to have significant tree and bush cover. That heavy .308 round is going to penetrate cover a hell of lot more effectively than 5.56mm. If I had to fend off Russians swarming across the snowy tundra, this upgraded G3 would be right up there on my wishlist 👍🏻

[@SonsOfLorgar]

​@@mrkeogh most of the cover in Norway will be granite and similiar rock. In Sweden, most cover is trees or boulders, either dumped by receding glaciers of the ice age or dug up by farmers over centuries and stacked as stone boundary walls around said fields.

[@HarrDarr]

@@mrkeogh there's barely any tundra in scandinavia

[@steeledickmann1672]

I really enjoy this specific topic. The G3 is the coolest rifle in my opinion.

[@Projectdarke]

*Inch pattern FN FALs angrily* JK, can't go wrong with kraut space magic. Also, H&K slap ❤

[@Rogue-7.62]

I bought an original HK-91A1 back in 1980, I wish I had kept it, but I am just as happy with my very lightweight PoF Rogue even though it requires heavy rounds for its fast twist barrel.

[@gunterstraus606]

I'd like to see the Norwegian and Greek G3 upgrades discussed, with their B&T and FAB Defense upgrades respectively

[@Projectdarke]

Iirc, 9HR already did a video on the Norweigian G3's

[@recoilrepublic7220]

I can already tell you without ever touching the Greek g3 the ak4c is leaps and bounds ahead of any trash from FAB defense

[@ΣταυροςΣαξιατε]

I am greek and I agree 😂😂

[@echopraxia4552]

@@Projectdarke I don’t think they have. They have another video on the Swedish G3 from a year ago. I’d absolutely love to see more content on the Norwegian variant, the AG-3, and as OP said, its B&T upgrades. To me, it’s the most compelling (and coolest looking) variant of them all. There’s really not a lot of content on the AG-3 in general, so a full video on one would be amazing!

[@Projectdarke]

@@echopraxia4552 i must have been thinking of the video on the Swedish G3, my bad.

[@stackscustominc1]

i noticed that one thing wasn't taken into account when talking about recoil. the g3's recoil is way different in full auto than fast shooting semi auto. in full auto after the initial push you can hold the g3 right on target and that's the beauty of the roller delay system. in a semi auto only gun this doesn't matter but in a military role like the Portuguese Marines it does

[@iettord3124]

You should've tested the AK4D with Swedish Norma ammo, it would have put the other to shame.

[@1989Goodspeed]

Some trivia: In Sweden the Ak4 is used mainly by the national guard (hemvärnet). The regular army use the Ak5.

[@Jesper588]

True for the other AK4 variants, but the AK4D variant shown here is the designated marksman rifle for the Army.

[@einar8019]

@@Jesper588 not for long

[@williamjohansson1963]

@@Jesper588 the SAKO-rifles are meant to replace AK4D and Psg90, and eventually the Ak5c aswell. Albeit with diffrent ordinace and external equipment.

[@CaptainCoons]

One thing most people forget about the G3 recoil absorption is it's buffer design. The buffer is a friction buffer so it requres to be completely degreased to work properly. Furthermore oiling the gun and storing it upright will grease the friction element.

[@bhoward9378]

Excellent point.

[@Afroninja52]

This is only partially true as the brake rings are in the buffer system for use with rifle grenades. The added resistance with the weight of the grenade increases bolt velocity so the brake rings are needed otherwise they are not really used. If you get bills enhanced buffer for example there are no brake rings and lubrication would make no difference as it's entirely dependent on the spring.

[@TheCarryHandlePodcast]

Quicker turn around than the Ak modernization video 😅

[@burritoman2727]

Hop’s video had me dismissing the ptr91, but you guys made a good case for it. I don’t know if I’m going to race to the store to buy one, but I definitely see it as more valid than before.

[@stevemc6010]

Hop is generally very niche of the minmaxxed AR, and to him, everything else sucks

[@TheJohn_Highway]

​@@gus808 He's objectively wrong

[@The_Hi_Life]

Hops a Larper, with no real world experience. Like Henry said here, these rifles have 60 plus years of battlefield experience. I think that speaks for its self.

[@marcuswagner1396]

@@gus808 Josh has won multiple completions. Hop just busy overpriced stuff and shoots in the dark. Only reason he's as big as he is is because of his brother

[@MandoWookie]

​@@marcuswagner1396who is Hops brother? Also, just because he has a different perspective doesn't mean he's wrong. And he is also pretty honest about being both a 'larper' and a troll. Seeing as how I am also not a high speed operator, his perspective is a lot more applicable to me than 9Hs. Also, Henry literally larps in most of these videos. He has real world military experience, with an M16A2. IIRC, all his PRS experience is post service.

[@SS-tr5ru]

The g3 is superior to the fal and always has been

[@SouthValleyKnifeCo]

I'm running a AK4D at home. I replicated the spur stock with magpul parts essentially but im running a 1-6 optic on a 1.93 mount with a midwest mlok rail. I did some trigger work. It's possibly one of my favorite rifles.

[@jonathanwarchild]

Very cool that these rifles have been in service for so long and still effective in the modern era. I first saw a modernized G3 in Ian’s video on forgotten weapons and thought it was a really cool concept. I’m surprised at the amount of modernized G3 content I’ve been seeing and very grateful for it as it’s become my favorite Cold War rifle!

[@Exandria]

PTR is about to release their PTR-63. its a RELIABLE g41 clone that is vastly improved. this will make a HUGE resurgence in the viability of the platform. PLEASE GET ONE ASAP and review it on the channel.

[@Oddball_E8]

I like how you guys don't just go "well, that gun doesn't work with our North American methods, so it sucks", but instead try to find other ways that it might work. Btw. the AB in Spur AB just denotes that it's a Limited Corporation (kind of like LLC), and you really don't have to say it when saying the company name.

[@Phantom_Aspekt]

The G3 is the coolest rifle, the aesthetics, the power, the reliability and ruggedness. I'd happily run one even knowing the limitations cause it would be a dependable option even in the worst of situations, always wanted one even when I was a child 👌

[@Birdfeeder795]

The Norwegian version AG3 was my service rifle from 1997-2009 before I was issued the HK416. It’s a handheld tank with excellent reliability under all conditions, both in the freezing arctic and Afghanistan. Snow or dust, no problem. We used it in the assaulter and DMR role. Hitting targets out to 600m with an ACOG on top. Easy.

[@robertjensen1438]

Nur ein Kommentar zum Algorithmus

[@RaDeus87]

I don't think you have a proper AK4-build until you have an elephants-scrutum (what swedish soldiers call the brass-catcher) on the side 😅

[@p47rr]

I have a modernized PTR built by Bill Springfield. Started as a Centme parts kit. It is amazing. His recoil system is a must along with his trigger work. Added a set of Black Slate industries rail covers and a KEV muzzle device that reduces flash and recoil.😊

[@dannyboy4805]

What accuracy can you achieve with that Bill Sprinfield built, and with what type of ammo?

[@p47rr]

@@dannyboy4805 One inch to 1.25 with quality ammo. Bill also added a picatinny scope rail. For glass I have a Athlon BTR Herlos 2-12X42mm. It is really compact. And I have no issues with the charging handle. I also went with a PTR eighteen inch heavy stainless barrel. Magpul PRS stock.

[@dannyboy4805]

@@p47rr , that´s good! That accuracy is inside the minimal request for a DMR type of rifle I guess.. Correct me if I´m wrong. Are you still able to use the iron sights as a back up with the PRS stock? Thanks.

[@blackpantherxd4899]

What about the Bw-20 rifle by POF ? I would love to see your analysis video on that rifle because it uses the same operating mechanism as G-3, Well in my opinion the BW-20 is also a heavily modernized version of G-3 .

[@texpatriot8462]

I think a modern rifle needs to have a muzzle device that works well with a QD suppressor.

[@brandonalmeida5493]

Yup. I run a surefire. It's also why I run a #17 lp

[@JackTagar]

Personally run a Griffin Armament Tactical Comp (taper mount) on mine for a balance between a brake and flash hider while minimizing the concussion. The QD for suppressors is just icing as far as I'm concerned

[@Mpeterson1286]

"I feel less recoil and reticle movement with the SCAR than the G3" Me: Looking at that 3 chamber brake vs. the basic birdcage, "I bet you do!"

[@geoblueGR]

talking about recoil without a muzzle break....doesn't sounds fair to me....

[@9HoleReviews]

I'd encourage you to go back and re-listen to this segment. We actually said the recoil on the G3 feels LESS - but the impulse, based on the operating system, causes it to be very hard to control with standard recoil techniques. The SCAR recoil is sharper, but with OR without a brake, a user can control the 'return to zero' more effectively. More correction required without a brake, but, the brake itself doesn't change the operating system impulse.

[@davetiberius7120]

@@9HoleReviews My apologies. Everything is subjective. My PTR is the farthest thing from modern. I've realized I'm very muscular and that may have a lot to do with it. I have the same enhanced buffer. It has felt recoil of course. However, using the HK 21E buffered club foot, I swear it is so heavy that I can't even perceive an impulse from the bolt cycling. It's 3+lbs by itself. It's WAY bigger than the enhanced PSG-1/MSG-90 buffer. Only fits in a club foot. I had to round out the back plate buffer hole with a Dremel to fit the teeth through. A polymer lower will help your rifle's weight and balance tremendously. I hope you do a an episode with the new PA PLx 6x magnifier. I pre-ordered one and it has great glass, yet weights nothing. A real game changer. Thank you for the content.

[@Hoplopfheil]

It's funny watching G3 guys repeatedly lower their standards for what a rifle should be until they match up with what the G3 can actually do.

[@andersmalmgren6528]

Hop is in the room!

[@FreshwaterSailor06]

Watching Hop trying to turn a G3 into a night fighting rifle can be summed up in one word; pain.

[@petrameyer1121]

Or maybe: dumb?

[@crowsbridge]

he hates everything

[@devil5cry]

first of all that's a PTR91 not the actual G3 Turkish pieces QC sometimes hit or miss if you're buying better shoot them first

[@crowsbridge]

@@devil5cry PTR isn't turkish, though?

[@devil5cry]

@@crowsbridge at least at Hop ones they got him a wrong angle delay block cost time and a block need to be changed lemon is more common in guntubers for some reason

[@jamesholden6142]

I have an HK 91 that was bought new in 1986 and I love it. I also have a SCAR 17S and it is a great platform. There is just something about the HK that is comforting such as the fact that I have rarely had it fail to go boom no matter what it is fed.

[@charlessalmond7076]

Great functional investment.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

It can also double as a very competent bat if you run out of ammo...

[@RocketSailing]

AK 4 was my issued weapon in my time in the swedish army. Agree on the recoil. My first mod would be the stock. Issues noticed is accurate. Bit big and heavy. But it was built for take a beating, Living in muddy, snowy conditions ect. good enough accuracy. Pushpins is for easy maintenence in the dark, tents ect. AK 5 was new back then. And my thought I would prefer to carrry it around on a dayly basis. But in a battle, ambush ect. Id choose AK4 every time. Very close quarters. AK 5, or even a ”Swedish K” The new comming weapon, seems to come in both ammo sizes

[@SameLif3]

I hear it survives all weather conditions and has strong maintenance. Pretty much stronger than both the Ak and the AR. It seems to be one of the first all purpose weapons if you ask me. One that could even outlive you. Beating mud snow ice and etc. I wonder if it even beats water? It would be cool if it could have a light trigger. That would be an improvement for close range

[@RocketSailing]

@@SameLif3 It will shoot after submerged in water. But you will have to let the water drain out first ofcoarse. But as always, avoid water or moisture to all cost. As anything steel, ot will corrode. Most important, faster maintenes at night in the barracks. Means more time with hot chicks. 😂 We always had a plastic cap at the muzzle break. (Standard issue) To to protect the barrel bit better. It will remove it self, in a hurry. 😉 But if you forgot to remove it at the range, you will hear some smacktalking for your buddies. And some ”choise words” frome the range officers.. 😂

[@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498]

Excellent. I also thought our spanish CETME-C had more life in them but politics rendered them obsolete.

[@morelikegoogleminus3396]

now that you've done sweden I'd love to hear your opinions on the finnish rk62/rk95. I'm sure there's some sako m92s floating around the states

[@StrangerOman]

I just love 9-Hole narrative style. Thoughtfully written and executed with a great production quality.

[@scottrobinson3281]

I see that PTR make a 7.62x39 version, the PTR-32KF which should be quite interesting.

[@TheGordonfactor]

I have one. It's AMAZING

[@ashkii508]

I gotta say i really love these videos. Its really cool to see people take guns apart in many different perspectives and aspects. Like for example actual vs felt recoil, or where you actually feel the recoil impulse. I also really like how you two manage to show that every system has its trade offs and where those lie. It really reinforces why we moved away from rifle calibre assault rifles and into intermediate catridges. Keep up the amazing content

[@alexsjogren4446]

Plz make a vid on the ak5c🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

[@scottbruns2907]

One thing I read about the recoil issue is that most people store their rifles incorrectly in the verticle position, butt down. According to German Army procedure this allows oils to drain downwards with gravity and this extra lubrication interferes with the buffer by eliminating the buffer's resistance/effectiveness. German Army procedure requires their G3 rifles to be stored/racked horizontally on wall in order to eliminate this problem. Have you heard anything about this?

[@nikosk3080]

Who needs red dot sights etc with a G3? As an "sturmgewehr" rifle at distances under 150 meters you almost don't have to aim the target. Point and shoot is enough. As a defensive weapon and in the range of 400 meters the the iron sights are enough. With the minimum training you can have an accuracy of 80to 90% only with iron sights. As a DMR, with the standard 3x Steiner optics you can have pretty good results up to 800 meters. For longer distances you have the HK11 and the MG 3.

[@9HoleReviews]

Because it's not 1995 anymore...quality optics massively increase the capability of virtually any system.

[@phornthip1991]

I served with this Rifle over 50 years ago, but the Paratrooper Version. In Norway over 50 years ago they used the AG3 with Scope in the Telemark Batallion as Sniperrifle up to 800 mtr. with pretty go results. Treue um Treue

[@Mikael_Svensk]

I used the ak4 when i was in the swedish military and i loved it.

[@HarrDarr]

there's been a lot of discussion on this in the home guard, around what you'd rather have and when. most boys say they'd prefer the ak4 in a fire fight against an entrenched enemy because you'll shoot through brick and concrete with it, though I prefer the ak5 in general, it's quite a bit lighter, less cumbersome and I don't think you need that stopping power against anything short of a bear

[@felldin]

My older friends who got to serve with the ak4 say it's a blessing and a curse in CQB. Clearing houses was easy, just shoot through the walls, lugging the pig around on the other hand wasn't that fun. It has become even more cumbersome with the new stock I've heard because it upset the balance and make it more front heavy.

[@jimcityboy5106]

Ok, I have a lever action carbine 357 Magnum rifle for my home defense. I use 180 grain hard cast ammunition. I live in an urban area with plenty of buildings. The distance from my lever action with the hottest rounds of 357 Magnum may reach 200 yards of effectiveness on small game at max. Point being that in my environment of an inner city I don’t need 800 yards of a hard hitting ammunition. All I really need is about 100 yards max. Now if I was a sniper, or defending a fixed position then I would say…”yeah, let me get that G3 for a moment”. Realistically you could enter a building with an 18 inch barrel, and an overall length of 41 inches, but you’d be better off with a 16 inch barrel or less in that environment.

[@kapad2452]

So cool that you used swedish m90 camo and sordins!

[@Juel92]

Something I love about the G3 system (and roller delayed in general) is that all the moving parts are located behind the barrel. No gas ejection, gas tube or pistons where you want to keep your hands.

[@vegarhl]

As a norwegian, i like the G3 much better than the HK416 that we now use + and - but. Heavy, solid, reliable, good for longrange and much better penetration on target. Have seen people shoot reliably hits on a person size target at 500/550 meters, on only iron sights. it all comes down to training and habits.

[@Vandreren83]

Always had a soft spot for the G3 rifle. Obviously biased as it was my service rifle in the Norwegian army. But I always enjoyed shooting it and it is incredibly reliable. I was surprised when large parts of the US army was so negative of the their new service rifle because of its weight as I was so used to carrying and use the G3.

[@cubismo85]

Sweden only use the AK4 for its Homeguard/National Guard. Conscripts or professional units use the AK% in 5.56mm and i hope it will stay that way, as the AK4 are cumbersome, heavy and big recoil, plus you cant carry as much ammunition.

[@peterrubin9122]

AK4 was faced out from the Swedish military forces 30 years ago, replaced by AK5 with 5.56 ammo. The Swedish national guard than took over AK4 and will now take over AK5 when Swedish army upgrade to the new one in 2024

[@SHOTRED555]

Love the video Henry it's sad to know that the rifle's phasing out. As terms of modernizing the gun I always like doing that for this particular gun. But surprisingly, the one I own had the old school wood furniture look.

[@andersmalmgren6528]

It's going to be used by our Swedish homeguard for many more years :)

[@thereal_mikegnorp]

But they're going to get the new SAKO as well..

[@DrakeKillah]

I know the G3 is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination... But it's so damn sexy, I'd rather die with the drip of a modernized G3, than anything else. I'll see y'all in Valhalla. G3 in one hand, a pitcher of mead in the other. TIL VALHALL!

[@stickfighter1038]

Like what the Swedish military did to modernize the AK4 and it made great cost to benefit. In comparison to the Swedish AK5, it does add significant range etc for troops requiring it.

[@TheRisto2]

The Swedes are moving away from their current AK-4D rifel to newly developed Sako made AR-variants togheter with Finland, adapting to NATO standards.

[@1233hund]

No its not a ar15. but it stops a soldier when hit. AR15 dows not. I had the G3 in 15 years in the danish military. Now we have something from like m16 witch is a kinder gun in my apenion. I want my G3 back

[@ohnenamen2843]

In German we call it „ein ideales Preis-Leistungsverhältnis“ (an ideal price-value ratio)

[@dylanwight5764]

The G3 might still find a place as a Reserve rifle in the nations now starting to retire it, if the influence of recent events in Eastern Europe on the development of assymetric national defense strategies have shown us anything. I think the G3 still has a few decades of service in it.

[@Fiendir]

You're bang on, this is currently the Swedish home defense rifle of choice. As the Ak4 started getting phased out for the Ak5, most of them ended up being repurposed for reservists. And honestly, when tasked with holding down an established position in Swedish climate? All the negatives of weight/ergonomics are pretty much nullified, and the strengths of the G3 really start to shine.

[@dylanwight5764]

@@Fiendir On the other hand, the recoil pattern has more rock and roll than an Elvis convention. This can be difficult to train for, especially with limited range time and ammunition budgets. Although as Henry mentioned, the rifle can still be kept competent even with older optics and clamp mounts, so it's hard to tell how much the G3's recoil matters in the context of being used from fortified lines. Ideally the AK4 would be paired with HK33s to take advantage of both main NATO cartridges in the event that Sweden must defend its borders. With Sweden looking to also phase out the AK5, I have no doubt that rifle will also be stockpiled should it be called upon for home defense. The HK33 would be better but not significantly enough to counteract the cost of acquiring it against the withdrawal of the AK5.

[@bengtjakobsson5177]

​@@dylanwight5764The word is that the AK-5:s are practically worn out so there isn't much sense to let them trickle down in the organization. As for H&K 33, Sweden have never used this type so we don't have them and i don't know if they are even made anymore.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

@@bengtjakobsson5177 Sweden has made general aggreement (worth 78mil €) with Sako. The new 5.56x45 mm AR-15 based assault rifles will be introduced in Sweden in 2025, and the 7.62x51 mm AR-10 based assault rifles from 2026.

[@bengtjakobsson5177]

@@XtreeM_FaiL I know that but they are primarily for the regular army, not the homeguard. My post was about if the AK5 would be kept after the introduction of the new rifles and the rather strange notion that we should complement the AK4 with HK33, a weapon we don't have, isn't produced anymore and don't take NATO magazines.

[@dstrick31487]

great video..... you laid out EXACTLY the reasons i chose a ptr 91 for a .308. excellent DMR that is bomb proof fully upgraded still $2000 less than common alternatives. perhaps i overreacted to being tired of how finicky my ar10 was

[@stevemc6010]

Do you think a comparison between the PTR-32 and something like the Vz 58 might happen in the future?

[@Cossack112]

I got Ak4 as standard issue in Latvia, I wish I could modernize it like this q_q

[@diesel7weasel]

Sooo... what your saying is stick around for the Swedish surplus spuhr kits and maybe rifles.

[@吳秉樺-b7j]

Can the G3 be reassembled without the anti-bounce spring? It seems that it is the spring that makes the bolt hard to be opened manually and should be closed with enough speed to get the rollers out into the recesses.

[@AlphaTangoSierra]

Have you tried POF (Pakistan Ordinance Factory) new rifle BW-20 & BW-21? I hope you will soon record a review on these new rifles.

[@71kimg]

The recoil is pretty bad - but it’s there because it delivers a punch - and with modern body armour this is wanted

[@bozscaggzz7475]

You lost me when Josh started talking on the recoil segment. Couldn't finish it.

[@TheLordinio]

respect to the swedish guy carrying a 7.62x51 as a secondary to a sniper rile

[@Shamanstyle]

I am Swedish and was priviliged as a teenager being able to shoot the AK4 in a youth organisation that was not technically "military" but all things considerered we trained to be soldiers. I loved the AK4 and got first price in a competition against 400+ participants in the organisation. Sharpshooting at 200+ meters is just as fun as doing a standing mag dump at 15 meters, if you know how to stand and hold it. A heavy rifle, but a very accurate and heavy hitter as well. You will defeat targets inside vehichles etc where 5.56 will not go through. It definately has a role still today as a DMR if nothing else. Lovely piece of weaponry.

[@mehtevas2653]

the recoil comparison used is unfair you had a muzzle brake on the scar but a flash hider on the g3

[@9HoleReviews]

Nah - the whole point is the difference in operating system and how the roller-delayed system spreads out the recoil - the recoil 'feels' softer on the G3 than the SCAR, but the impulse is harder to manage with traditional recoil control technique common for NA shooters, due to the duration.

[@JackkDevil]

Military G3s use this type of flash hider in order to launch rifle grenade's and keep the fireball some out smaller.

[@mehtevas2653]

@JackkDevil not the point I was trying to make

[@TheOrigin79]

This was my standard rifle in the german army 30 years ago and i still love it. Its powerful, reliable, versatile and sturdy. Only downside was the low ammo count per magazine. Amazing to see it still in service in other countries.

[@williammccaslin8527]

I own 2 Cetme's, 1 is a sniper version, heavier profile barrel, the other is just a shooter version. No mods need to be made to them, like them just the way they are, an use them for punching paper an hunting. Even have real Cetme mags, 20 an 5 rds, an a real Cetme bayonet to go on the front of them, if need be, hopefully not tho. Thx for the vid ( part 2 )

[@ReverendMeat51]

"They didn't want to spend money on the Marines, so the Marines made do." I love how some themes transcend national boundaries

[@ABowlofPho]

And now the USMC mostly run tricked out M27s with VCOGs, PEQ-16s, NT4 suppressors, VFGs and/or Harris bipods, etc. They got the budget nowadays for sure.

[@aderitodealmeida5644]

​@@ABowlofPho, I guess he was talking about the PORTUGUESE Marines ("Fuzileiros").

[@CovertGamingET]

I absolutely love my modernized PTR-91. I did not go the SPUHR route because $$$, I do however have the newer version that comes with the welded rail and 1/10 twist 18" barrel, I replaced the stock with the magpul PRS stock, extended m-lok handguard, Magpul MVG vertical grip, Harris S-BRM bipod, and a 1-8x LPVO. It's more of a marksman setup and weighs quite a bit, I do get better accuracy with 175gr berger OTM tactical match ammo over regular 140-150gr ball ammo, I have not tried any other 175gr ammo though so I don't exactly have a good control group to base that on. The magpul PRS stock makes a big difference imo as far as felt recoil goes, but maybe that's a placebo, as any stock beats the original or collapsible stock. I really wish PTR made a version with a cold hammer forged barrel.

[@kamenneikoo7854]

G3 with the NORMA ammo is a bit better than the ball ammo you tested

[@TheTeamauld]

Excellent two part series guys! Some of your best work yet. I'll keep backing you on Patreon-because you guys deserve it.

[@vassileiostsitouris3046]

Well the Hellenic military still runs the G3 and there not going to let it go any time soon.

[@rabbitholereviews]

Shout out the Bill Springfield trigger jobs for the G3/HK-91 😁

[@bravo_cj]

17:04 What carbine is that? A modernized Daewoo?

[@themetabaron8722]

As always a thoughtful and thorough essay! Looking forward to your eventual review of the Hellion.

[@Holret]

I owned a few G3's and managed to get the best upgrades to tame that recoil and lower its overall weight. What I found out is that the G3 can compete with modern rifles provided you spent a few hundred more dollars on it. However, to me the biggest issue is not recoil, its weight. The best I could do with this rifle with 9.6 lbs or 10 lbs with optics and all.

[@davetiberius7120]

People would be astonished just how much weight/balance savings you get just by swapping out the metal lower for polymer.

[@LabiaLicker]

Alright spill the beans

[@factsy7042]

The Swedish army doesn't use the G3 aka AK4. It's the home guard that uses it. The regular army uses the AK5.

[@9HoleReviews]

we were specifically talking about the AK4D

[@fourthhorseman4531]

Great G3 videos! Just a note that I've had good success with muzzle brakes on my two PTR-91s. Doesn't do anything to address the felt movement of the bigass bolt carrier group, but it does definitely help keep the muzzle on target for faster followup shots.

[@danielsmith969]

The production quality of these videos is absolute top notch.

[@canal10centrado]

If only you knew some Portuguese youtuber to talk about the modern G3 user by the Portuguese Navy... I wonder were you can find one...

[@brandonalmeida5493]

He did have help, I got him in touch with some fuzos and others

[@zoolkhan]

i used the g3 in the german military. It was known to make bigger holes than the ak47 :) As reliable, and accurate (and easy enough to use / field strip) as it is - it is a long rifle ... cumbersome in some environments. We used iron sights on 300 meters. ps: 90% of your fancy acronyms for fancy add-ons mean nothing to me. No doubt catered for an audience that is not me. (wtf algorhitm?) I am sure north american civillians would be the better army when it comes to those things like QBDYT grip with FQTR sights and HUWYTYR stocks :) Dont shoot in anger, shoot when someone order you to. cheers with beers

[@nikosk3080]

Northern Americans can't understand and use great guns like G3 or AK47. I'm in love with AK47 but I prefer the G3 and HK 11. Don't shoot in anger, don't shoot under "orders", shoot when you have to shoot. Until then, drink beers with your friends, have a great time and wish that you never need to use any type of weapons against people's.

[@thomas_jay]

I am totally biased as I was trained on the G3 but I would take that rifle over any other any time.

[@thomaszachariadis634]

Modernization????😂 ha Greek army

[@dmg4415]

The Home Guard uses the Aim point equipped version, and the Spuhr mod rolling out. The Scope mounted variant is used as a DMR, for out to about 600mbeyond that there is the Bolt Action sniper rifle who rules. What I have learned is that the SAKO should be in 5.56 and 7.62 and a bolt action with interchangeable calibers, the largest will be the .338 Lapua and an every day 7.62. The new 6.8 is not mentioned anywhere.

[@thereal_mikegnorp]

It will come in different flavors. Non frontline personnel will have the 5.56 variant. Standard infantry the 7.62 and there will be a DMR variant. They're procuring a sniper rifle as well from SAKO in 338 lapua magnum. BTW, the Swe homeguard will get the new standard infantry version as well.

[@kcv5716]

Can you modernize the compensator?

[@seltsamerzeitgenosse9797]

Vorgrimmler smiles upon this review. Weitermachen! :)

[@LaG-DeMoN]

should have tried it with a muzzle brake