The Terrifying Imbalances In The Sexual Marketplace

[@ChrisWillx]

Watch the full episode with Vincent - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5iben2AmZ2sfpI

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Your assumption that women are capable of feel guilty about that its childish.

[@dyecaster9341]

Wow! The brainwashing is strong. This conversation started off as how the SMV market is increasingly failing men. Somehow the focus shifts to "how can we cater for waymens ambient anxieties". Chris go watch some of kevin Samuel's very recent shows. He brakes it all down in practical terms.

[@beastieboy3907]

Why does it seem that more women want to be educated and earn more money because they are living in the great double standard, want a fix legalise prostitution...

[@dansaber8435]

God's intelligent design is for survival of the fittest. May the best man win.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@@dansaber8435 true but many men getting women today are definitely the losers in that equation

[@grahamblack1961]

Social media is the romantic equivalent of spotify, no matter what song you’re listening to you, you always feel like maybe there’s a better one since you have access to pretty much every song in the world.

[@jukeboxjey5035]

Access to be able to chat and talk with almost every man in the world. Modern western Wimen are priviliged in terms of mayeselecting its getting unreal

[@undefeatedwrestler8301]

Tinder single handedly ruined dating and relationships for the average man.

[@coops1992]

Don't even start with the below average men :(( RIP for them.

[@taraswertelecki3786]

@@coops1992 Women think 80 percent or more of men are below average as it is.

[@josephhowell8158]

So true

[@kp361]

I see ugly people in relationships literally every day. If you can't get laid, that's your fault, not Tinder.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

It helped ruin it for everyone

[@rangerwhite5165]

Men won't commit to marriage, as it's too great a financial risk. It's just not worth it.

[@Syncrotron9001]

You'll just become a cogenitor kzbin.info/www/bejne/noSYYp1pgbSfnKc

[@TipseyTiger1996]

@@Syncrotron9001 how the fuck is this video on your own channel any bit relevant here?

[@Syncrotron9001]

@@TipseyTiger1996 Didn't bother to even read the description huh? Ill spell it out to you. A Cogenitor is a 3rd gender which is forced to labor to provide for a child that is not its own biologically while simultaneously being denied any input on raising said child. Marriage today means you're the one paying. She can still go out and you cant stop her, if another man impregnates her you'll still be put on the birth certificate. You'll be denied the ability to have input in raising the child by the public school system.

[@laur2139]

Men won’t commit to making the first phone call after getting a phone number from a woman in an app.

[@viralt487]

@@laur2139 don't date men that have 100 women in their phones. there are guys with none willing to take you serious.

[@greg7120]

We need a massive study on the ‘free stuff gap’ and the ‘who pays the most taxes gap’ and the ‘who dies in war gap’ and the ‘suicide gap’ and the ‘hard and dangerous jobs gap’ and the ‘child and spousal support payments gap’.

[@viralt487]

don't forget who has the most debt gap.

[@Rambo-lv9hu]

gender lay gap - how come women can get sex super easy, yet men cant...yet no government bothers with that..

[@JoeHeine]

Men are checking out of society, and rightfully so. Without men running society, it will in-fact, collapse. I am very much looking forward to the day of collapse.

[@etsequentia6765]

@@JoeHeine Right there with you.

[@HashFace253]

I like how I think all these things but then when I read them online I'm like "damn yall interpreted Dr peterson wrong af"

[@Lionty01]

Let's address the elephant in the room ; most modern women have been programmed to believe that majority of men are beneath them. #ModernMisandry

[@sidecharacter7165]

Tot has has been true and men have always recorded that throughout history. It is evolutionary to have better offspring like with other mammals.

[@joshjones9878]

its more primal than that.. studies show womem rate 85pc of men as below average attractiveness whereas the opposite is the normal bell curve you'd expect.. eggs are expensive, sperm is free. facts

[@Lionty01]

@@joshjones9878 saldy, if you think sperm is cheap, than the Overlords have managed to hide from you the true power of semen aka the seeds of life.

[@louisavondart9178]

It's not programming, it's Realisation.

[@younggold1416]

@@louisavondart9178 One day after society collapses and all of your daily comforts and rights is stripped from you. Women will also realize that the men that they had stepped on and mistreated are the same men responsible for everything that they had. What goes around will come right back around. More men are starting to wake up and realize our ancestors were correct. Men will put women back in their place. Deep down you already know, women have no real power against men. Deep down you envy men, because you know we’re better than you in every way. More men will come to this same realization. Count your days

[@markflierl1624]

I have a better question. Why would any man want to bring a kid into this world? If a man doesn't want to have a kid, why get married? Just stay single and watch society implode.

[@Shadowwalker1717]

That's my life philosophy. I wait for the water wars in 15 years. All the climate refugees from Africa and middle east will collapse all first world systems by their millions of millions of millions masses.

[@Bruh-Moment435]

I want a kid because my dad is such a good father to me and I know if I can be even half as good a father as he is I would be a great dad

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

Facts about men and women: Beautiful Women are common. High Value Men are rare. High Value Men who are handsome and alpha are like unicorns. A woman's youth and beauty will always fade. A man's wealth and status can last forever. That's why a high value man will always have leverage in the dating and relationship market, no matter what.

[@hanswurscht6625]

Yeah, exceptional beauty isn't that exceptional. In every class there's a girl that is as hot as they come. But how many of the guys will turn into powerful and wealthy men? Depends on the level obviously, but if you talk about fuck you money, there'll be 10 hot bimbos for every guy.

[@snakedogman]

Beautiful women are common up until age 30-ish. After that... not so much.

[@deansusec8745]

Beautiful women are very rare, but they are usually very choosy

[@deansusec8745]

@@snakedogman Thats cuz theyre not really beautiful, just young.

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

@@deansusec8745 So, So True Milfs are very very rare!!

[@carlosmata2404]

Bro I started working on myself because of this and for the first time in my life chicks on a mass scale started noticing me. I would say you either play the game or you lose and there’s no point in not playing so just try to do the best you can and trust me you will be better off than the 40% of guys who already gave up.

[@mikelisteral7863]

u gotta stand out and waive a wedding ring in front of their faces like a carrot on a stick

[@jeffjohnson5053]

@Herold Jaras Foreign women!! Eastern Europe, South East Asia, Latin America. Foreign women are very humble and maintenance free like Honda cars!!

[@voiceofexperience]

Get back to me in a decade.

[@vincentdimitri169]

@@jeffjohnson5053 Only in the smaller towns, cities and countryside. Capitols and large cities are ridden with feminism almost as much as the west.

[@Shemale_Barbie]

@@vincentdimitri169 what is wrong with feminism? The dictionary definition: the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. What is so wrong about it as described by the dictions it definition? Do you mean feminism or man haters?

[@wheeliebin18]

Thank social media. People have no idea how to simply TALK to a stranger anymore, it's seen as weird or creepy for a guy to approach a woman in public these days.... that's a terrifying concept!

[@kennyadedayo8550]

It’s only weird and creepy when she’s not attracted to you. SIMPle

[@wheeliebin18]

@@kennyadedayo8550 Ah of course, I forgot XD Even then, it's easy enough for both parties to be civil and polite.

[@kennyadedayo8550]

@@wheeliebin18 Yeah. Most people like nice people. But also being too much of a pushover doesn’t help either.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

To be fair a lot of men do approach women in a creepy way and for years would honk at ones they think we're attractive as they drove by. In Australia men are really rough and yell at women they think are attractive and get mad when the women are not interested or don't like being yelled at. Rough as guts Aussie bogan culture. I don't like wokism but it has made this less socially acceptable. I have been honked at when riding my bike which could be so dangerous.

[@rustycamper1785]

one of the main problems is some women are aggressive. un kind. and trying to find ways of using guys for their own advantage. most guys get ignored because she has a lot of better options but when that dries up the guys who have been push under the bus or seen their friends crushed walk away as theses women are mostly unattractive or would need ivf which is just too expensive for guy to an to invest in a girl who told him to get lost when se was younger.

[@mikelisteral7863]

women want a man with resources to get obsessed with her. until she has that she wont be happy.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Guys only make friends with females to get into their pants or for a relationship and then get mad when the women won't have sex with them. Try looking into yourself and go to therapy

[@Fair-to-Middling]

6:55 That's a fallacy. though, that women 'need' to work in order to 'provide' for everyone else in the household. That's not always true. Staying at home, you earn to budget and you don't buy so much stuff. I remember feeding my family of four on less than $250 a month. We didn't have the biggest house on the block or a new car, and we definitely didn't go out to eat all the time. And yet, I got to see my son's first steps and hold him during the day when he didn't feel well. So, there are ways to make it work. And it's definitely worthwhile.

[@mr.rembrandt]

good point and great that your family was able to be so resourceful. but in reality, no one would agree that $250 is a healthy amount of money to feed a family of 4. your situation is completely anecdotal. They are having a conversation on consensus, not a rare occasions nobody would know about.

[@StrawberryAppleCream]

That's great I do think it comes down to choice most of the time.

[@manubishe]

In simpler terms, the influx of all women who did join the workforce made the common man earn less with his 9to5 job, which 50 years ago paid for a household.

[@anneb889]

Another issue is student loans. The push for women to go to college, often taking out massive student loans, almost forces them to keep working after kids. Hard to not think this isn’t by design…..

[@ubiwrongcomeatme3452]

Not arguing against your point here, but it's not a logical fallacy. It's just incorrect.

[@quattron-1126]

It’s not easy being a man. Period. But… I wouldn’t have it any other way either.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Maybe people especially males need to look at this from the perspective of making connections and look into themselves and work on self improvement. Women are tired of men who consume pornography and can't relate on an emotional level and don't need to be married to live in society and don't want to anymore.

[@ashraile]

Entirely untrue, I was in fact too emotional and insecure and was resoundly rejected for it. Around social circles where I presented that I didn't give a damn about LTR or marriage, I did much better. Stop comparing emotionally unavailable Chad to the rest of us guys. The emotional types, you reject and ignore 100% of the time without exception. It's a great way to test a woman's character, just be always nice to them and see if (when) you get rejected. But that comes with a tradeoff. When the previously nice guy realises that women don't care about relationships until it's far too late for them (post wall 30s 40s), without exception, he adopts the same mindset that Chad does, since y'all didn't want relationships anyway. But what you females don't seem to understand is that without the relationship and family building aspect of a woman's character, she is effectively the same as a prostitute, and is viewed as such by men. And so a man has no reason to engage with such a person as an individual, because they choose to offer nothing of value. (Integrity, commitment, empathy, cherishment, positive reinforcement, compassion). So congrats, you did this to yourselves. Enjoy what comes next.

[@AntoineDennison]

Many women prefer to share an alpha male or be alone rather than 'settle' for an average man. In addition, the government subsidizes single mothers by spreading the burden of child-rearing across society through taxation. This dynamic encourages women to pursue the most desirable men to progenate with and foots the taxpayer with the financial obligation that would otherwise be picked up by a faithful husband. The social safety net has unbridled women from the biological mandate to find and secure a reliable mate.

[@richardouvrier3078]

I think I was a semi-semi Chad in my 20s and 30s. I gave up and became a bachelor. I'm not very attractive now we I've gotten poorer and unfitter. It's good to be a semiChad.

[@mikelisteral7863]

i used real women for free sex in my twenties, but once free hd streaming porn really got popular i quit dating lol

[@jimbaxter8488]

All of this has always been true- the 'beautiful people' operate in a privileged manner.

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

somewhat, the main difference is scope. As much as people want to say otherwise, actual groups and power centers were far more diverse in the past. its easier to be a "beautiful" 8 in a group of 100 people than an 8 in a group of 100,000

[@whywhenwhere4377]

The 80% of females operating in a privileged manner are certainly not all beautiful 🤩

[@Servant_of_Christ]

Come on, this is fantastic, million's of men who wanna see the world burn! 😂 I myself have stopped working, I will no longer contribute with my money or my skills to a society that has hated me for all my life because I'm a man. I will sit on some coast somewhere on my sailing yacht, have a beer and a chuckle watching the world burn! Moahahaa! 😁

[@Kurio71]

Grow a pair. Are you serious?

[@Servant_of_Christ]

@@Kurio71 Absolutely serious, and why would I wanna have two pairs?

[@davidpersson250]

I am tired of all the drama and emotional bagage these wimminz have

[@redpillsatori3020]

[@noo343]

Exactly why try they don't care they don't want me to succeed even if I do they're just going to try to take everything I get just burn it all down and piss on them when they cry

[@obadiahspong2300]

There are millions of unhappy single women over 30 years old out there. They focused on their careers in their 20s but have now reached their ceiling, and their biological clock is ticking fast. The feminist propaganda of the last 50 years has done them a lot of harm and they are now waking up to it.

[@danielk348]

This is like a TV series 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JimmyMFP]

5:02 - men and women are fundamentally different, gender stereotype arguments aside, and that's actually completely fine. Really hit it on the head about how the male paradigm is seen as the standard life pattern everyone should be able to achieve; and yet, because of women's perception of inequality based more of lifestyle choices and realities, than on patriarchy, we see society trying to feminise men and the workplace. What we really need to do, and we should've done is - but leaders lacked the wisdom to think in such a way - post WW2 when all the women had been working whilst the men went off to fight, and then came back to take jobs away from women (largely) who had then adopted a male life pattern, industry and government leaders should have worked out a female life pattern outside of the home that enabled them to be workers and mothers. Instead, since then, we've had a battle of the sexes over workplace norms and gender expectations. Now would be a great time to work that one out.

[@jasperzanovich2504]

Well, there isn't much time later to figure that one out since it will resolve itself in a less than desirable way.

[@tezzo55]

This is the 20% 80% rule. "The 80-20 rule, also known as the Pareto Principle, is an aphorism which asserts that 80% of outcomes (or outputs) result from 20% of all causes (or inputs) for any given event. In business, a goal of the 80-20 rule is to identify inputs that are potentially the most productive and make them the priority." Doesn't mater what you do, 80% will go after the 20% and that's the way of the world. Get used to it.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

I think modern dating has skewed even the Pareto Distribution. More like 85-15 now

[@tezzo55]

@@whywhenwhere4377 Excellant.

[@robertcussen8039]

If you sacrificed modern luxuries then the woman could stay home but people want new cars, they want new expensive cellphones every year or two and they want to dine out all the time, you can't do that on one salary. The you can have it all motto is killing us!

[@manfrombritain6816]

this is very true, people CAN still afford this despite the mad increases in prices of things in recent decades

[@p9a9r21]

Great discussion. In my opinion, the issue isn't female hypergamy. Hypergamy is similar to the profit motive and competition in capitalism. But in today's social media culture females are practicing hyper hypergamy and are generating dangerous imbalances in dating and social structures. Charles McKay in his famous book detailed how "bubbles" are created and sustained in markets and dating is a "market". Modern females are practicing hypergamy in an extreme manner which will have long-term consequences for them. Modern-day hypergamy is based on the presumption that there is a top 10% male for EVERY SINGLE WOMAN who wants one. And if a female doesn't secure her top 10% male she opts out of dating and marriage and remains single. But only a comparably small segment of females are in the top 10% as measured by males. However, social media promotes the falsity every female is a top 10% member. But time and biology works against females pursuing this option because; first, as females get older her desirability in the marketplace DECEASES compared to her younger female counterparts. Second, reproduction for women while extended by modern science becomes less of an option as a women ages. Men on the other hand do not experience these changes in their sexual marketplace value.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

The average man at 45+ hits the wall when his T drops dramatically. He gets fat, balding, inactive and gets ED. At 50yrs old over 40% of men have ED. Only a very small percentage of men increase in any value as they age. Don't deceive yourself in believing all men gain value as they age.

[@p9a9r21]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 While males may experience a decrease in the production of testosterone beginning as early as 35 years, lifestyle nutrition and genetics mitigates this decrease and supplementation of testosterone is a fairly common treatment. ED in males is NOT conclusively attributable to hormonal decreases as males in their 20s may experience ED. But males in their 60s and 70s have successfully fathered children were females in these age ranges rarely successfully conceive and bring pregnancy to full term. In western societies youth and fertility are attributes most desirable in females typically most prominent in the 20s where maturity and physical stature /strength are the most desirable traits in males and typically reach their peak in during late 30s and 40s. In short, males physically, emotionally and intellectually fare better in the later decades of life than females.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 Nice try. Your ED facts are not great by the way. Most men can if they wish stay in good shape their whole lives and remain attractive in womens eyes way way longer than a woman can in a man’s eyes. It is what it is and there’s no point arguing it. Most women hit the wall between 30-35 most men between 45-55

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

@@whywhenwhere4377 'Most men can if they wish'...that's the kicker. The average man doesn't and hits the wall. Statistically at age 40, 40% of men have ED. The average between 40-70yrs old the ED prevalence is an average of 52%. Most men are not in shape. They are fat or obese and inactive.

[@ashraile]

So what in your opinion will happen once the market crashes?

[@prettyboyjeremy]

It's the Disney effect on relationships If it's not a fairy tale I don't want it.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

That's what trad relationships are..it's all Disney

[@everything...interesting]

They all think they're princesses, and are going to get a prince. Meanwhile, the avg weight of a woman over 20 is now 174 lbs. At 5'4". And a 39" waist.

[@vklnew9824]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3aVg6ekbKxrhK8

[@rubyblu21]

In Australia maternity/parental leave is organised through the gov if you are eligible for it.

[@mikelisteral7863]

in australia everything is organized through the government because the citizens are cowards

[@satoshinakamoto7253]

yeah the gynocentric social order

[@rubyblu21]

I'm just stating facts. Are you two bitter or something? What's with the dramatics?

[@fakename3208]

It’s not really hard to get into that upper sphere of men as long as you are on top of your shit. I’m 5’2 and never felt like I had a problem. I’m 30 and married now (married for 3 years)

[@whywhenwhere4377]

Fake everything not just name

[@fakename3208]

@Whywhenwhere lol whatever helps you sleep at night.

[@ariesostia126]

As long as women are opening their legs I'm good. Marriage, commitment, whether she likes cats or dogs, her family history, body count, who gives a damn. If you're just smashing and moving on, you don't have to worry about any of that. You need to worry about making sure she's tested before you get together which takes some patience, and always be honest that you're looking for something short-term.

[@BadMotivator66]

Dare I say it? You could get TR on. Lord Voldemort. No one else has in a hell of a long time, and you’re a very good interviewer

[@charlieweaver6322]

I can't see him getting Rommy on, but it would be good.

[@stonemarten1400]

I doubt KZbin would allow it, as the hero is banned on the platform. You know you can’t even mention the name TR without the algorithm censor zapping it within seconds.

[@metsfanal]

@@stonemarten1400 who's tr?

[@stonemarten1400]

@@metsfanal pay attention, my man, if I wrote his name, my post will likely be deleted! Err, how about “Rommy Tominson”.

[@improvisedsurvival5967]

Honestly I don’t blame women for not wanting to be with a guy they don’t want. They really are doing men a favor. It’s not bad to have high standards. Women can control their sexual urges that’s good . Men should be able to even better.

[@amykearns9470]

People use to recognize and value trades. I have not done a deep dive into alpha male/ red pill...but what I have seen suggests the thought leaders largely ignore tradesmen and women as successful. There appears to be a misperception that the trades people are not successful or well off. Those that worked on North Slope in Alaska when it was first discovered including those working on drill rigs became very well off. Same with those that built the Alyeska pipeline. It's bias that if someone doesn't dress in suit that they are not well off or more important intelligent and well educated.

[@vprez4925]

To be honest, being a full time stay at home mom sounds awful.

[@-whackd]

Yeah imagine having to love a child who looks like you all day

[@vprez4925]

@@-whackd Exactly.

[@vprez4925]

@@-whackd sounds awful 😂 its like being around my parents all day.

[@formepvp]

You just contain the children in a relatively safe environment so they don't accidentally injure themselves. You are then free to spend the day watching dramas on netflix and hang with the girls. Last thing to do is to neg your husband to do the chores when he returns home.

[@vprez4925]

@@formepvp sounds awful. I'd rather have a life.

[@SnerMerNer]

I havent had any attention from women since i was 19. Im 34 now. Not a shred of interest. No hugs, kisses, cuddling, sex, sharing your life, support. Nothing. After 15 years of being rejected and invisible, you cant help but think you’re defective and not worthy of it.

[@ADGwildlife]

hit the gym HARD< only thing you need to do before you are 40, you only get one life, i will bet you if you actually follow through hardcore for a year, your entire life will change, do it right away in the morning no excuses, only reason to wake up. it worked for me, you can do it to

[@ADGwildlife]

get a real home gym set with weights, so you dont have to go to the gym waste time and be distracted, 30 mins 5 days a week for a year, youll be a new fucking man

[@MandoMTL]

lol. Guys. Save up that 50$ a week/month and get yourself pampered. Don't fall for the false romantization of relationships. In today's sociopolitical environment, it's a pipedream. Stay Savage.

[@anastasiosparissis9997]

Western sexual marketplace 2022: all women are passed around between the top 10-20% of men which translates into: women are voluntarily positioning themselves into modern day harems. Congrats ladies!!! You beat patriarchy!!! This is so fucked up…

[@christopherpakney8542]

Unintended consequences because they only function on immediate emotions, security and comfort with ZERO care for tomorrow.

[@anastasiosparissis9997]

@@christopherpakney8542 I used to think it was unintentional but not any more, so many low value women (sub five, overweight, 50+yrs) have so high standards and they are not afraid to admit it, literally they are treating normal men like garbage. this kind of behaviour can only derive from their realization that normal men have so few options to date and they have sooo many more... they indulge themselves into being run through by the most genetically gifted men. In a big western city with a 1-2 million population there are a few thousand men that fuck all women, that s the situation today

[@chadgaston8615]

@@christopherpakney8542 Always did.

[@tedlogan4867]

Never married no children demographic at any age women out earn men by almost 20%.

[@mikelisteral7863]

just import more brown immigrants to make up for the dropping birth rates lol

[@felixoupopote]

No mention of people being able to shop for each other online?

[@Cactuscupholder]

The reality is is that more and more women have choice and comparatively very few men are attractive prospects, for many reasons.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

More and more women have the ‘illusion’ of choice don’t you mean?

[@Cactuscupholder]

@@whywhenwhere4377 Women d have more choice than men, granted many would reject all options currently

[@whywhenwhere4377]

@@Cactuscupholder The illusion part is related to the fact almost none of them will keep the men they keep giving themselves to. If they are happy with this then all is good. They do tend to keep saying where have all the good men gone as soon as they hit the wall however which kind of suggests not.

[@Cactuscupholder]

@@whywhenwhere4377 "Giving themselves to" lol are you from ye days of olde? Please advise me as to why any woman should be concerned with 'keeping' a man? I think you know as well as anyone that it's not women who hit a wall....

[@whywhenwhere4377]

@@Cactuscupholder Good luck 😉

[@Ms_BeMe]

You can't make women who are happy being single be in a relationship ....marriage, motherhood and fatherhood is not something everyone strive for in life. Just saying......

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Marriage and having children is not a goal for many women. In fact less and less women are interested in becoming wives.

[@Ms_BeMe]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 yeah, that shit is for the birds.🤣🤣

[@bradwhitt6768]

@@Ms_BeMe until they hit about 40 then they realize how lonely it gets. Every single female coworker I have over 40 is freaking out about being alone for the rest of their life. You think you can handle it but most people can't that's reality.

[@Ms_BeMe]

@@bradwhitt6768 🤣🤣🤣 dude, i have NEVER heard no woman freakin out over being alone as she get older, you know why? You men are EASY to come by.😂😂 Check the geriatric data, it is you men who die alone in the nursing homes, it is women children who take care of her... at least in my community. See, this why i tell women to not take men serious and to leave u be.🤣🤣 Freaking out..of course women die alone without men, we out live you.😂😂😂

[@treck87]

That wasn't the point of what they were discussing. They were talking about the insane dating demands of girls and women today WHILE they simultaneously, automatically make more money than men throughout at least their 20's, and are thinking they are some kind of retarded Disney princess waiting for their multi-millionaire Adonis comedian.

[@ahmedhashmi3258]

I’m married, and I worry for my male friends at times…before someone says you’re ok single etc etc..let’s not bs ourselves..we all desire to be loved and taken cared for..

[@rdcb1057]

True.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

I’m worried for the future of society and the lustrous economy we have all come to take for granted. If you think the decline in male female relations will not have a very big affect on the long term prosperity and economy of western nations go and do some digging.

[@ahmedhashmi3258]

@@whywhenwhere4377 ? That’s exactly my point too! It’ll be a disaster waiting to happen..you have to blame the blatant marketing that has been sold to women especially! From movies, tv, commercials that have been fed to them at early age is crazy…when I went to a foreign country; these standards and expectations were not even close to what the west feeds their counterparts….

[@whywhenwhere4377]

@@ahmedhashmi3258 Yes the media and social media have caused many problems. It’s hard to blame them in the sense that they could foresee this coming but money and power are at the root of all these problems in truth. Power corrupts and money is the root of a lot of evil.

[@ahmedhashmi3258]

@@whywhenwhere4377 the west encourages slavery to debt collectors…you go to places east; they are mellowed the funk down;if you know what I mean..that hustle and bustle life style out there is non existent

[@h2t26]

This clip was way too short. I wanted to hear more on the last part.

[@DMAN590]

Men not going to college is smarter. Avoiding the debt for useless degrees. Irritates me you keep bringing up the outdated perspective "you have to go to college" Thats been proven complete bullshit for a long time now.

[@ChrisWillx]

Men with a Masters level degree or above get 90% more right swipes on Tinder. That's easily worth 4 years of your life.

[@everything...interesting]

@@ChrisWillx Masters level degree would imply 6-7+ additional years of schooling (beyond high school)

[@charlieweaver6322]

@@ChrisWillx Since 90% of stats are made up on the spot, I have to ask: where did you get that number from? Also, how would a woman know if you have a Master's degree? Is it not possible to lie on Tinder?

[@milohoffman274]

@@ChrisWillx False assumption any women on Tinder are worth a damn, and they are not.

[@alexavasquez1992]

@@ChrisWillx no it's not. Tinder is a cesspit. Unless all you're after is lots of meaningless sex, of course

[@catsnchords]

Sex is just one step above food, water, shelter, and breathable air on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. A society of increasingly sex-deprived men will not have a pretty conclusion.

[@Internet007.]

Everyone should boycott online dating

[@bwake]

The quest for women to become equal citizens was not only for justice. It had an intrasexual status component. That status issue remains.

[@manfrombritain6816]

the ultimate irony being that women are turned off by men who are equal to them

[@riddledriddler3933]

Many people don't realize that marriage/relationships/children are just an option in life, it is not an obligation. But as any option in life - it COSTS MONEY or time in which you can earn money, so therefore you have to work yourself to an early grave to make ends meet etc. I dipped my toes in relationships - no thanks, all the stress and drama to ALWAYS entertain the woman so she is not bored - in today's world it is just not f**ken worth it. At 35 I live my life, i do what i like, when i like, i work plenty and in general am at peace and happy that i can afford the things i want. if it will get very lonely i would rather get a dog, at least it will always be happy to see me. so guys and girls do whatever YOU like but remember there will always be consequences.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Many women have discovered its an option.

[@riddledriddler3933]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 true, but they don't want to understand that very few get lucky and more often then not, pursuit of imagined perfection ends in tears and depression.

[@johannesswillery7855]

Women will demand polygamy as a civil right.

[@future62]

There is no imbalance. People of both genders think there's some kind of dating crisis because social media has fooled them into feeling entitled to more than they deserve, and modern life in general has people more isolated which makes it harder to date. Most couples I know that have been together for a long time are pretty well matched in all aspects and aren't obsessed with getting the superficially "best" mate possible. Y'all obsess over external features and metrics because you don't know what's actually important for building relationships. Plus on top of that you have all these social media grifters telling you it's all everyone else's fault to rob you for your attention. That's the real "dating crisis"

[@louisavondart9178]

Yep, what counts is not who you marry but who you ARE when you marry. Asswipes get to stay single. That applies to both sexes.

[@davidhines68]

At 6'11", I can tell you that being in the top 10% of height isn't necessarily all that helpful in terms of mating. Unless you're only talking about heights that actually exist in typical statistics (6'6" and below).

[@MrBooYa-yd5er]

Just go for 6 foot even women and you’ll be fine.

[@adambilge2834]

The range is 5'10" to 6'3". Shorter or taller than that and you are out of luck. Unless of course you have money.

[@whywhenwhere4377]

You’re going in the wrong direction mate. Anything really over 6’ is starting to go negative again. You’re probably on the same par as me being 5’7” 🤣

[@arees6653]

As women achieve higher levels in education , careers and incomes their focus for a potential partner is still also based on these factors . In the world of online dating men in well paid , stable blue collar jobs ( electricians , plumbers etc ) are otherwise overlooked based solely on these factors and are therefore deemed not suitable . It very much appears that having a Bachelors /Masters Degree or PHD is now a fundamental requirement men have to possess in order to be deemed dateable by women , the same cannot be said in regard to men’s dating choices .

[@NathanPK]

Three obvious oversights. (1) Birth control means women are freer sexually than they were in the past. (2) People date and marry outside of their age cohort. (3) The dynamic changes over time as people couple up and those left are picking from a smaller pool. This means that a short, awkward, poor young man may be unsuccessful in his 20s but do just fine in his 30s, if he takes the ten years to improve on his improvable qualities. Likewise for women. It also means that once women switch from dating for fun to courting for marriage, and as the so-called high status men are taken, their selection criteria will change to those men who can be trusted to be reliable partners.

[@christopherpakney8542]

But at this point, the Man who spent a decade refining himself and building HIS Dream is not going to accept some 35 y/o spent hole with 2 kids who has now decided that this man is "worthy" to be with. That Man will have options. The woman will not. Don't ever simp. Don't ever be the "settle."

[@chrisandsneaky2453]

@@christopherpakney8542 Exactly! I'm 46. I want nothing to do with women. When I was younger, women treated me like I was some disgusting monster if I even said hi to them. I'm not short and was not poor and now I am very well off (I retired at 40) and I was a decent looking young man. The problem was I was a decent human being who pursued an education and worked hard to achieve my goals in life (I was a commercial photographer and artist). I did not cover myself in tattoos, didn't drink or use drugs or mooch off women. That made me repulsive, and the more I was rejected the more socially awkward I became. Today, I sometimes get asked out by middle aged single moms with kids who are way to young for a middle aged mother. Your kids should be adults by the time you're 45, or at least close to graduating from high school. These women have 4 and 5 year olds! I just tell them I have nothing to offer them and they need to find someone else. When I tried dating earlier in life, I never once asked out a woman successfully. Meaning that every one of the 200+ women I asked out turned me down. The women I dated asked me out, but refused to touch me; even after dating for weeks they wouldn't kiss me. When pushed, they'd admit that the idea of touching made their skin crawl. They were using me for free entertainment while waiting for the tatted up losers of their dreams to come along. Now they're used up with young children in their 40s and wanting to use me to support those kids; kids they had with men they really found attractive...but badboys don't support their kids. Too bad, not my circus, not my monkeys.

[@Chrisspru]

another thing of note that helps explain womens success in current education, but men catching up/ exceeding while working even without pregnany reducing womens time at work: men are less motivated to work without clear goals, measurements and causaly linked steps. but they are more motivated when those things are present. in comparison to women. that has hunting/ childrearing reasons: cost/likelyhood analysis for men and routine tolerance in women. women do better in education that is aimless and disconnected. men do better with a route (both do better, but men than exceed women on average).

[@kennethheying7845]

The real problem, not mention here. The women, who becomes a mother, is probably single and living off the government.

[@everything...interesting]

The problem actually goes hand-in-hand with inequality. Studies have shown that as the size of a society grows, so does inequality. Nowadays, we're living in a global society of 8 billion people, by far the largest in history. Modern communication and travel have also interlinked global society like never before. This renders Western women, automatically, in the top 10% of the world, just by default. Then, from there, because of female hypergamy, they only want to date up. But the reality is, the top 1% of income earners globally make just $30,000. The solution is for Western men to ditch Western women, and start importing wives. The only problem is that female hypergamy will lead to those wives trying to ditch the man they've married after a couple years, to "upgrade." Again, because of female hypergamy. What we should do is rewrite the laws to disallow them from doing so. If they file for divorce, they should have to go back to their country of origin. Problem solved.

[@pinchebruha405]

Agreed!

[@vklnew9824]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3aVg6ekbKxrhK8

[@grapeshot3462]

" What we should do is rewrite the laws to disallow them from doing so." Yeah good luck getting women to vote in favor of that. A better idea is for men to unite and deny women the franchise so we wouldn't have a need to import wives in the first place. The 19th Amendment was a mistake.

[@everything...interesting]

@@grapeshot3462 Oh, I think there is zero chance of any of this actually happening. If a law favors a gender in our society, it always favors women.

[@megja1812]

The game is shifting

[@supremereader7614]

Previously women would choose what 'tribe' they wanted to be part of, and that was their community. Today with many women not choosing a tribe, or just assuming that a police man will protect them if anything goes wrong, cuz they don't need no man. Well, the police will protect them. But that doesn't mean the women are actually gonna be part of any kind of meaningful community.

[@geetube79]

vvomen + social media = the downfall of humanity

[@littleislandabode9211]

Not sure where he’s getting his info from about maternity leave in Australia. We don’t have the best maternity leave in the world nor the worst. If you’re the primary caregiver (usually Mother) then you can take up to 12mths maternity leave. You can then get 18 weeks government maternity pay. If you lucky your employer will also pay up to 14 weeks full pay or 28 weeks half pay. Depends on your employer arrangement. My employer also offers men the 14 weeks full pay option and most men have taken the 3mths off to also stay home with Bub.

[@pete8234]

Get every single guy on TRT and this problem will be alleviated.

[@jengrly420]

what are the metrics and criteria for women vs. men pay gap?

[@jengrly420]

@@thereisnosanctuary6184 good points. Indeed, I've seen more men negotiate more than I see women. Not sure why that is?

[@hariseldon3786]

.. or you just 'pay for it' --- and then you get a hard time for that... bc that makes some women feel threatened i.e., their major 'weapon' has been neutralised....

[@skylinefever]

This is why sex negative women and holy men form an unholy alliance to keep it illegal. They need to call all of it "sex trafficking" to get the normies on their side.

[@MOTION-MV]

I think Ai would be our best bet in stopping society from falling apart. we tried the Nuclear Family dynamic before, but that was before a LOT of women had jobs, education etc (Not that this is bad, it isn't, just means women will have a smaller pool of mates to select from i.e. Hypergamy in action). I can't even imagine what society will look like in 10-20 years time.

[@doomd1816]

The world will before 20 years

[@kp361]

I know lots and lots of women in 'good' or even great jobs. None of them give a shit what men do for a living, or how much they earn. I know executive-level women married to builders. I know a woman who runs a company who is in a LTR with a labourer. It tends to be women who are in a shit financial situation who are after your money/interested in your money.

[@satyricon451]

Precisely, how would AI stop society from falling apart?

[@scottytc]

Even women themselves are still adjusting to equal opportunity. They do not have a 4000 years of examples to follow like we do.

[@rnt45t1]

Why bother even trying, then? why work on yourself, work out, get rich, etc.... if no one is going to want you anyway? I'd rather just be healthy, relax, live in an affordable place, enjoy what I enjoy, and just be left alone. The only thing I'm missing in my life by not making women a part of it is sex...

[@thisnameinvolved]

our society is void of yin energy and ripe with psychopathy.

[@paulmetcalfe6855]

"Why is it only happening now when this has always been the case, women looking for these types of men?" I'll tell you in a pure and simple and non PC answer: FEMINISM. This was never the case in the 1950s, which people say was an awful time for women. But has anyone asked women who lived in this era what they thought of it? No, as most, including my mother, would disagree. The majority would say it was a great time to be a woman and certainly better than today where men had respect, marriage was sacrasanct, and raising a family with your beloved was the dream. Look what feminism has given us, latch key kids, broken homes, single parents, selfish single people, children raised by strangers. Leading to kids replacing fathers with gangs, leading to less respect for their elders and more violent crimes on the streets. I could go on but should I have to. It's clear as day in my book. Don't believe me look at the stats for single parents in the 50s or crime of any sort yourself. Then, you just might see why I emigrated and raised my child abroad.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

As women we risk so much more when having sex and so that is why we are more picky. We are judged harshly for whatever choice we make. We loose who we are a lot of the time when we get married and have kids especially as we don't have community and we are not built like men who can isolate after pair bonding. Being alone with a child with no support as a women is terrifying to many of us and we have to get educated and be able to work Incase the man walks out on us.

[@grindcorejoe4485]

That's why women choose 1% of men who ejaculate and evacuate, you make no sense.

[@itsez1129]

"As women we risk so much more when having sex and so that is why we are more picky." Can you elaborate? From my point of view choosing the top 20% is very risky as those guys have the biggest change of spreading STDs. "We loose who we are a lot of the time when we get married and have kids..." So instead of having a "hoe phase" and fucking around till 29 when you should settle and find the one in a span of 2-3 years how about trying to find a husband material sooner with better selection qualities than jawline and dick size?

[@bradb4446]

And yet more women are sleeping around more than ever. Men are judged just as harshly for the decisions they make, if not more, particularly by….women. Many men lose who they are in marriage as well, this isn’t exclusive to women. Men have to get educated and make sure they’re making a lot of money since half of marriages end in divorce where the woman takes half of everything and the man is stuck with monthly child support payments. Your arguments are invalid and have an undertone of “I’m a woman, I should be treated differently than a man would be under the same circumstances”. That’s not equality.

[@Inspiriments888]

Life is a reflection of your beliefs. All this planning and statistics is making life seem like a game and all the players(women & guys) some how predictable(furthest thing from the truth btw) it's a losing battle when one thinks this way... One may "get" the girl/guy based on looking at like a math problem; Yet remember you have a high likelyhood of attracting someone as vein, detached and controlling as the mindset that thinks it's a "race to the finish"..

[@joeswanson733]

life is nothing but odds and probabilities.

[@nodice1881]

ironic how I got an advertisement for polyamory before this ad

[@shimon1166]

I'm a 6'2 multi-millionaire and I have no problem meeting and dating women.

[@christinewalker7759]

You’re the kind of guy they are jealous of.

[@manfrombritain6816]

why would a 6'2 millionaire be here

[@shimon1166]

@@manfrombritain6816 You Tube took me here, I watched the first minute and realized it wasnt relevant to me. So then I left a comment and left.

[@courtneygillespie]

Yep....your right....couldn't agree more 🙄

[@dunner079]

Chris Williamson hosting sexual imbalances conversations and he's banging rings around himself :D

[@josephanglada4785]

If it is up to only women or only men, in two generations we all will be closely related, genetically speaking.

[@juneelle370]

Men don’t take a hit to their income for fatherhood, women shouldn’t have to either. That’s why it’s important to recognize fathers as much as mothers. It’s natural for both parents to take TIME to BOND and CARE for their children.

[@mlmoreno75]

We need more patriarchy, not less. We need more Judeo/Christian values, not less. We need less feminist BS.

[@hectorestrada4744]

@@marsultortheavenger409 only the Talmudists.

[@grantwithers]

More judaism is never what you need bro.

[@noklarok]

just less feminism would be fine for starters

[@malakaragua702]

It makes perfect sense from an evolutionnary point of view. Women want the best genetics for their children that they can get. Ofcourse they're not going to settle. The most sensible thing to do is to get quality sperm have children and then find a herbivore man to help you look after them.

[@MrBooYa-yd5er]

Evolution is a lie. God is King.

[@dw6317]

I actually see it the opposite in the dating world. The men don't want to commit because it's too easy to just keep it casual regardless of their income level. What women are no longer settling for is casual relationships. That is why we become adapt to being single by choice. Has not a lot to do with hypergamy. We are well aware of the imbalance of the amount of men who won't meet those standards. And have no problem with going with a STABLE man who treats us well. The problem is there's no conscious effort on behalf of men to do so. They are not even approaching for dates etc. The red pill community is not helping at all with this imbalance. Because as your guest have stated, it is not the information itself that is the problem, it is how it is being presented. Therefore causing a HUGE rift in balance between men and women relations. IMO

[@dw6317]

@MotoIncognito you're part of the problem. Smh. Immaturity is a choice. Move along.

[@dw6317]

@@JeffCaplan313 another part of the problem. Good luck with that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dw6317]

@MotoIncognito 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Well said 👍

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

@Yez Kex Exactly. The women can make their own life choices and live the life they want

[@randomness8819]

How does that factor in to the fact that there are more women to men?

[@gunnyman34]

Hey Chris I’m a huge fan of your content. I want to just express I think you have the wrong idea of the FNF content. Things you and Vincent are saying is almost identical to a lot of things said by Myron and Fresh. Both of you guys have platforms that are extremely valuable to men.

[@gurisrnes9919]

Very interesting discussion, and to a certain degree I agree with the analytic basis. But aren’t you talking about a certain section of the population? I believe that still the majority of women…even if you only count the socalled developed world…still hold manual jobs, or work within sectors where no degree is required. Mostly the workforce does not consist of highflying careerists. Further….has anyone suggested a solution with regard to issues…both with regard to men and women…? In my country birth gives the parents the right of one year maternity/paternity leave where a portion is mandatory paternity leave. The practicality of this is still under debate even years after it was enforced.

[@Xarkom89]

We're at the point where women can sell bath water and farts in jars to desperate lonely men. Let me say that again -- women can sell their farts in a jar. That sounds like a running joke concept in a south park episode 15 years ago. What the hell is going on?

[@katiie7]

Feet thing is becoming popular too I’ve noticed lol

[@utoober33]

Honestly, the enemy is not women but men who allow this to happen. They make it difficult for society. It's the soyboys.

[@liyaxo4560]

@@utoober33 exactly. But its easier to blame “all men” or “all women”. This idea that a whole group are conspiring against you is delusional at best. We all have things we can work on, men and women.

[@CommandoMaster]

Most men are too beta/socially awkward/ugly/short to get girls because girls nowadays have too many options due to social media, so their standards are higher.

[@redlight3932]

South Park been candid since day 1 probably the only show I haven't stopped rewatching since I was old enough to remember Cartman calling Kyle a jew

[@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536]

I'm just grateful I got to live my sexual prime (15-40) before the advent of online dating. Average guys like myself had no trouble getting average girls. There was someone for everyone. Even if you were less than attractive, you could "grow" on a woman through personality and kindness. Those days are over, but then again so is my libido so...whew!

[@tylerdecker6994]

It’s such a joke anymore. Women have ruined dating for everyone

[@sidecharacter7165]

@MikeProductions1000 It is easier to pick up chicks in your 30’s and 40’s with a stable home and income. If you want nice chicks just work on your body, charisma(speak to random people when out about things like sportsball), and tell worn out 30 year old hoes that their too immature when you don’t “date your own age.” Girls in their early 20’s want guys with resources so building up yourself is the best option.

[@baldeagle4710]

yup, online dating was the end (except for chad). i started dating in the early 2000s. women cared a lot less about pics then.

[@evaphillips2102]

Ugly guys are still growing on women today, and they’re still acting out like „Chad and Tyrone“ when they get the chance. Careful what you put out in the universe.

[@samanthaduggan9002]

Australian Bettina Arndt is very interesting on this topic. She coaches average-looking single women to accept average-looking men instead of having sex with better looking men who will never stay with them or marry them. Imagine that's a job nowadays!

[@richardouvrier3078]

The thing is by being a bachelor you're actually richer even if you earn less.

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

But muh combined income is a bigger number.

[@LOCATIONREDACTED]

@@ReasonAboveEverything Yeah, the only people that say that have never been hassled for a car, an extension, an Aga, see how that goes for them!

[@IevaKambarovaite]

What's really valuable in life usually got no monetary value.. But I can see why you'd think that being a bachelor works out better. I hope you're able to meet someone who may change your mind😉

[@WiseOwl_1408]

@@ReasonAboveEverything oh hell yes it is. It's nice to have some backup in life. And kids bring meaning to it all. It's not for every one though.

[@justlol7281]

But you aren’t happier. You are lonely, depressed, and suicidal.

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

Once I realized male-female dynamics in the present day. I said it myself it's not worth it. Just focus on being the best person I can be. What I didn't expect is that I would find incredible peace and I'm more than content. Seeing all my friend being destroyed by divorce, relationships, and family courts... I said no way in hell.

[@greg7120]

That is my identical story. Thanks for sharing. Go in peace my brother.

[@aaroncaswell5053]

yeah im trying to not let it get to me and learn to find that peace. it's hard when you just got mind blasted by the truth of everything been halfway tempted to give up and call the va for antidepressants at this point but also trying to stay strong and hoping that things balance out emotionally with time.

[@fedup1606]

Peace is a currency men no longer get paid with in modern relationships. It's a shame men have to reject modern relationships in order to get paid in a currency they value. Honor, respect, loyalty, authority, etc. are a few other currencies men have a hard time getting paid with in relationships these days.

[@gregy1570]

ahhhh, but you missed out though. having to chase her around and beg for sex when you're still young and vigorous and she's still attractive somewhat, and it hasn't become boring yet; but then, when you're middle-aged and your blood has cooled (thank goodness), and she's DRASTICALLY declined too, THEN for some reason SHE demands it, and you better perform. even during the day, when you can't just rely on the dark to hide the awful truth and allow you to at least use your imagination:)

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

@@gregy1570 all you have to do is stay in shape. I'm 38, prior military. I workout 10-12 hours a week, walk/run 18 miles, cycle around 150 miles a week (work permiting). I know plenty of guys in their 50's who will out perform most teenagers. I've always stayed in shape. When I was a combat and flight medic in the military, I was attached to infantry units and the Ranger battalions. You have plenty of men in their 40 and 50's that are still killing it. The down side of this is your sexual drive doesn't decrease. But again, it still not worth it.

[@christianlorenz843]

You can"t ask a young man to defend or support a community or society that doesn't serve his interests. He should move somewhere he will be appreciated.

[@selohcin]

But there's nowhere he can go that is the way you described...especially if he's white.

[@manfrombritain6816]

this. i see good men wasting away playing video games and smoking weed because they have nothing important to do. meanwhile i regularly see female friends complain that "boys dont know what they want" which translates to: "i'm looking for a leader who wants to tell me he wants to make a family. i can't rely on any of these men because they haven't grown up" but the boys are so jaded from the dating game, so poor, so worried about divorce that they dont want to commit. they're also scared.

[@ashleyoasis7948]

@@selohcin ever heard of JBW being white is an international pass ppl roll out the red carpets for white tourists so that’s no problem bigger problem is being a foreigner in a white country where only going back home is the option

[@ashleyoasis7948]

Currycel in west if it ever goes to war I rather go to jail than the draft fuck being cannon fodder

[@sidecharacter7165]

@@hirondelle8734 Funnily enough the crusades were largely filled with men who were upset with their homelands like this.

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

We need to get back to commitment. Sex and love should not be frivolous. It is a sacred act and should be treated as such.

[@keylanoslokj1806]

The women are lonely by choice. If the would let the average man to simp for them, they would have a husband and a family any day... .

[@tomhavenith2330]

I'm curious. Are you in favor of serial monogamy or rather in the no sex before marriage and exclusive bond for the rest of the life fraction? I mean... I'm really just curious. No afterthoughts, no bad intentions... I don't really have an opinion in the matter. Just living my happy life.

[@keylanoslokj1806]

@@tomhavenith2330 the more you restrict hypergamy and sexual depravity in women the better society works. Recipe as old as time

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

@@tomhavenith2330 I’m for enforced monogamy, no sex before marriage. Broken families destabilize society

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Or multiple models of commitment. In my experience with discussing "sex and love" with anyone from strangers on YT to personal friends and acquaintances, the opinions vary on how it translates to real life. Honestly, negotiation and consensual agreement are good to focus on as people navigate their relationships.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

spoilers: it's gonna get worse wait until 2025 LOL

[@skylinefever]

It will be exciting. Herbivore men arrived in Japan a little over 10 years ago, and the sampo generation entered South Korea around the same time. It has been said that what happens in those countries will happen in western countries. Well, 10 years has already passed, here it comes.

[@deathproof84]

“Our side” has completely embraced simping and th.o.ts, oh how things have changed. These things belittle men and women!, we should be building people up and not tearing them down, our culture depends on it.

[@vklnew9824]

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[@tomhavenith2330]

I was so shocked when at our last High school reunion I was approached by at least 4 or 5 women on a group of 30 despite me wearing my marriage ring openly. 15 years ago these girls wouldn't even give me the time of the day and now they seem to assume I would cheat on my wife because they apparently think they are "hot" some of them earning x percent more, some x percent less then we, boohoo. They ridiculed me then because I was a geek and now they apparently think I should cheat with them on my adorable geeky wife because now they are 'ready'? I don't get their logic... is there any logic involved on their part?

[@charlieweaver6322]

Pre-selection may be at play here. Essentially, you have been selected by another woman, therefore you must have something about you. Women want what other women want. Also, you are taken, and women want what other women have. Plus they may just be spiteful and want to ruin your relationship, since they themselves are not happy. Misery loves company.

[@prettyboyjeremy]

The answer is a firm no. Remember these are the same kind of people to petition Google for underpaying them only for the numbers to reveal they were underpaying the men

[@everything...interesting]

They realize their sexual market value has declined, while yours has increased, so now "they're ready"

[@tomhavenith2330]

Thanks guys for these insights. It seems that I am still as socially clueless as I was 15 years ago. Just a LOOOOOT happier. :)

[@prettyboyjeremy]

@@tomhavenith2330 No problem dude. As long as you keep yourself healthy, your wife stays faithful and you don’t allow scum of any shape or form to take advantage of you You’ll stay happy friend

[@sunnydays405]

To summarize: Chad always wins

[@gregy1570]

only if you decide to compete with him. and who's chad, anyway. is he the tough, wise, honorable, hard-working, physically imposing man whom once upon a time most men would wanna follow? or is he just the douchebag whose strut fools foolish women??

[@captaintac3115]

@@gregy1570 good question. I fear women and insecure men tend to see McDouche as a "Chad".

[@gregy1570]

@@captaintac3115 thanks. it's very disheartening to me to see simps not only idolise mediocre p itself, but idolise the mcdouches too getting it. i've even had grown men try to argue with me that JOHN MAYER is The Man, simply because he slays hollywood idiot sluts. there is no known universe - real, parallel, alternate - in which i would want to be john mayer, or would think of him as a man. ditto drake, or biebs, or johnny depp, or on and on and on. and that's of celebrities. it's just as bad at the lower level. at my college (a well-known up-its-own-ass school in nw indiana), there were 2 groups of guys with large organised female followings: the laxer bros, and the glee club. those with fraudulent masculinity, and those without any. man i'm getting spun up about this..

[@gregy1570]

@hohoho bobobo but again - WHO IS CHAD. is he the neanderthal green-beret rhodes scholar ass-kicker; or the strutting d-bag with Game and dance moves??

[@offBeatRock777]

More abstractly, nature always wins. Nature dictates that Chad is fitter

[@6lu5ky86]

I have unfortunately allowed myself to go 14 years without trying to find a lady. I feel like I'm in another world that doesn't give much of a damn about me. Alas I still press on, in a fog.

[@someonesomeone25]

Make a tulpa and buy a doll.

[@dogsenseforu301]

Christopher Patrick - just a suggestion - try a local choir (even if you aren't a great singer) as choirs are usually way more female than male. Or try an after work course in something you are interested in that women are also likely to take eg psychology or Art History, and/or even if you are atheist do a free 'taster course' for those who aren't religious asking 'is there a God' eg Alpha course for people in your age group. Doing courses you will meet many people over the weeks of the course and expand your social circle (they will have their own friends etc). Unless a course is age specific you may just meet older and younger people - but the olders have children and youngers have older siblings/cousins etc). IMO the once a week courses give you a chance to meet people who aren't drinking/dressed to the nines etc and find out who they are gradually. IMO this is way more authentic than meeting at a nightclub or bar one night.

[@someonesomeone25]

@@dogsenseforu301 Wouldn't that only work if you're attractive and have decent social skills?

[@dogsenseforu301]

@@someonesomeone25 You learn almost everything by 'doing' and social skills doubly so.... ie the more courses and different people you meet the more you will develop social skills. Also, not everyone who has a partner is attractive or rich. People who are trying to expand their minds/better themselves are more attractive than people who sit home watching TV/playing computer games.

[@someonesomeone25]

@@dogsenseforu301 Ugly men only get to be providers for ugly women. If you're not attractive there's no point.

[@label1877]

My female friends who are a 5 at best, walk around saying they deserve a top man. I try to educate them, a top man will smash you but never get serious with you. They don't listen.

[@sarcodonblue2876]

Why are you rating your friends as hotness numbers? That is so shallow and you expect them not be like this.

[@27MOJOKING]

I think he is saying many average women tend to be delusional in what they think they deserve in mate. They dont think they have to earn a mate like men have to. Average women deserve avg men & vice versa but today usually doesnt work like that . Women see 80 % of men as beneath them even though many those women are not top 20% of women.

[@jbrealestate7155]

@@sarcodonblue2876 women can rate guys so, why not women get rated? Equal energy playa. And why should women be like this? If she is a 5 then her ass should want a man who is a 5. Just like a man who is a 5 cannot get anything above a 6 unless he is rich.

[@proudatheist2042]

@@sarcodonblue2876 it's better than lying.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Hypergamy is a greedy creature. A man who can provide is not enough. He needs to be one of the the best compared to everyone else. In a world where everyone was richer and better looking than Chris Hemsworth - I guarantee Chris would never get laid.

[@everything...interesting]

That's the real source of the problem. And nobody's talking about it. Female hypergamous nature is literally evil. 100k yrs ago, it was necessary for survival. But now, it's just the literal embodiment of greed. It has become completely maladaptive in the 21st century. It's going to lead to depopulation. And if you believe Elon Musk, this will lead to the collapse of civilization. But the elites don't care. They've been pushing this nonsense (feminism) on purpose, because they want to reduce the population.

[@everything...interesting]

@@dantieri9193 Bullshit. Raping children is evil. Murdering innocent people is evil. Stealing someone's wallet is evil. Countless things are evil. I've read 'Beyond Good & Evil.' I'm very well-versed in Nietzsche. Your nihilistic ennui is unimpressive.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

@@everything...interesting I agree it’s maladaptive to the the current environment, but wouldn’t say it’s evil. I would define evil as consciously causing others unnecessary harm. Taking half a mans stuff just because the law supports it is definitely on the spectrum of evil though. But you could be an greedy person and not be a thief. There is a golden ratio for everything, including the Earths population. Perhaps it is time we curb our population growth. If you look at every other organism that has a population outbreak - which is what mankind has been experiencing over the last 100 years - it is always followed by a sharp collapse. Mankind really needs to work out what our sweet spot is, and then maintain that balance. Who knows - perhaps this unbridled hypergamy will lead to women only breeding with top tier men, in which case after a few generations most men will be good looking and desirable. Natures own eugenics. There is a lot we don’t know.

[@everything...interesting]

@@peripheralparadox4218 All I know is, it would be nice to be in a committed relationship with a woman and not know that her inner nature is always just looking for the next best thing. Kinda makes the whole thing seem pointless

[@peripheralparadox4218]

@@everything...interesting I know the feeling man! Even if I were wealthy, I wouldn’t want a woman to know that. It’s the only way you can guarantee she’s not acting on her hypergamy. But that just means unless you’re good looking, pretty much no women will be interested.

[@Hookythehammer]

I once dated a girl and we got on great then she found out I was allergic to dairy products and cos she was a huge cheese fan she ended it there and then saying that food is one of her big joys and if I couldn't share her favourite food with her then that wasn't what she wanted🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ I stayed single for 8 years after that until I met my current gf who is amazing, I don't like cheese, she does, but she hates baked beans and I love em. Don't sweat the small stuff, life is too short

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Dude, I promise you. That was an excuse. She just didn't like you enough.

[@danielsnook5029]

I also love baked beans, two hours after I eat them.🤣

[@Hookythehammer]

@@GUITARTIME2024 then I got off lightly huh, who would want to be with someone who hasn't got the cajones to be honest and tell you straight. Not me. She'd probably smell of Swiss cheese down there anyway with the amount she put away 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

It's all about the cheese

[@wulfsorenson8859]

The first girl who loved food is obese by now…you dodged a bullet 🐷

[@RolloTomassi]

Basically this guy is relating information I've been writing about for 20 years. I guess he must have a doctorate degree for you to take this analysis seriously, right?

[@hugozulu6716]

He is pretty much saying the same things that u've been saying in ur books and blogs.

[@Syncrotron9001]

You leave out there part where the government actively wants your wife to be able to cheat on you because its eugenic and good for the genepool. The state has been planning this for 60yrs any advice that isn't "stop playing the game" is bad advice.

[@metsfanal]

It's a good interview to point to. The interviewer is an outsider who doesn't focus on this topic and the interviewee is also as such, simply researching the topic for a paper. Opponents to the ideas here cannot simply sling mud and namecall as is typical.

[@rogerblakely7453]

The Kids Are Alright

[@VeritasIncrebresco]

Hey it's "Mr. I use Mikhaila Peterson as clickbate" !

[@DrGingerHamster]

There is nothing wrong with hypergamy. That is likely why we're still here as a species. What we have today is not hypergamy, it is absolutely unrestrained, unfettered, you go girl hyper-hypergamy. Eventually, it is a numbers game. There are only so many (and really very few) of the top top men that are desired by a majority of women. Average men don't stand a chance until she's 'ready to settle down' and average man might then be able to wife up someone. Even THEN the wammens will complain about having to 'settle'. Alpha widows are a real thing.

[@mikelisteral7863]

hypergamy causes a small amount of men to have so much selection that they never marry any of them and just use them like free hookers.

[@pandorasbox17]

Times changed, more men don’t want these girl’s anymore when they are finally rdy. It’s really bad for society but I think it’s the normal way of evolution.

[@shaunsteele8244]

we're still here as a species because for thousands of years women's behavior was restrained by men. 50 years ago we decided to just let them do whatever tf they want, and now we have this trainwreck

[@DrGingerHamster]

@@shaunsteele8244 That's a fair point. 'Restrained' hypergamy.

[@sarahrobertson634]

@@shaunsteele8244 Men's behavior is being restrained by natural law these days. Only top males deserve to breed. Just the way nature intended. It's worked for billions of years.

[@VeritasIncrebresco]

The dating game is an updated version of the same game that humans have always been playing: survival of the fittest. We are not dying of famine/plagues/war etc the way we used to, but birth rates are dropping like crazy because it's too expensive to have children. Only the top tier of men can afford to have children, and only a small percentage of young women choose motherhood over a career path. Only those select few are having (multiple, healthy) children to produce further generations. Brutal reality, but life has always been brutal in one form or another. I wish all of you good health and mental fortitude. Greetings from a degenerate NYC my friends

[@prettyboyjeremy]

Greetings from Maryland My only fear is my only chance at a happy relationship is a Chinese war bride or being drafted into a Chinese American war

[@skylinefever]

Urbanization and industrialization lowered the birth rate. Before those things happened, each child quickly went from one mouth to feed to two hands to harvest. People were incentivized by that to have marry early and have several children. After industrialization and urbanization, there was no financial incentive to have children. They became a hobby and when the economy goes down, so does the number of people who can afford the hobby.

[@robbenvanpersie1562]

@@skylinefever If modern economy collapses we might go to olden times increasing our birth rate

[@josephanglada4785]

So sexual selection is coping like this for the lack of natural selection?

[@prettyboyjeremy]

@@josephanglada4785 That and strong laws that discouraged aggressive mate taking or silent G Grape as we like to call it For the most part war used to be the no 1 way to find a wife

[@Chris-pp8fm]

What I took away from this is frightening. Assuming only a very small subset of men can afford to care for a family of 2-3 children without their partner needing to work in our current economy then women have basically had the choice to be a mother removed subversively. I believe this to be the case, I remember looking into the statistics for the UK and they confirm this to some extent: 1993-2016 (and it’s got worse since) Average wage ‘93 - 19k Average wage ‘16 - 23k Average house price ‘93 - 59k Average house price ‘16 - 249k I’ve heard from a lot of people about the attack on the family unit, increase in incentives for single motherhood etc and all the accompanying stats that prove it’s a horrific thing to do and this seems like an economic version of that.

[@thestoicwhinger]

It has not only been subversive but completely deliberate

[@williamwilliam5066]

So women got what women wanted, and now they don't like it. What's new?

[@D97mgtow]

This is a result of social engineering, there has been a steady and concerted effort to drive boys out of the higher education system as well as a relentless pursuit by employers to most highly hire women

[@tarico4436]

Are you super high? Or mostly high?

[@cosmeticscameo8277]

@@tarico4436 no it's real. look at college campuses. majority female look at affirmative hires...care to take a guess?

[@tarico4436]

@@cosmeticscameo8277 I've been sort of a self-trained (autodidact) speed reader for decades now. Some items I read diligently; some I sort of skim. I got to the last few words of the OP's comment, and it tripped me up big time. Had to reread it three times. I get the drift, but his/her alliteration threw me for a loop! Much better would have been "...to mostly hire women."

[@Shemale_Barbie]

There hasn’t been an effort to drive boys out of higher education. They themselves are leaving. There is a study on this and I forgot the name but it’s an effect calls “someone hung gender leave” the study says that whenever women join something men do, the men themselves decide to abandon that thing out of fear of the feminine. The study gives examples about how Men used to wear heels because it was a symbol of upper class and power but then when women started wearing that, men stopped doing that and by their own will left, or like how pink used to be a male colour but once a woman decided to wear it and many women then decided to wear it, men stopped wearing it and blue now became the colour for the masculine. Pink was a colour for masculine coz of how similar it was to red which symbolised power. To summarise, whenever and area of something gets “invaded” by women, men leave. Most teachers were Male. Look now? Most psychologist were Male. Look now? Another study showed that a man is less likely to go to a university if he is aware that it is made of mostly women, even if it was like 52% 48% men. There is a study on that I’m literally trying to find it.

[@cosmeticscameo8277]

@@Shemale_Barbie interesting.

[@shaunmcinnis1960]

Don’t forget that when comparing women’s degrees to men, men still predominantly have a predisposition to physical labor when it comes to trades, blue collar wrk, etc, it’s in our DNA. We are different.

[@purplelove3666]

Blue collar is not in your DNA

[@manfrombritain6816]

you mean: men do useful shit, women do a lot of bullshit

[@StrawberryAppleCream]

For myself I can see the pressure to perform like a man came mostly from my dad and yes also society. My dad had no clue how to be there for a girl and to appreciate femininity. The only way to get his approval or positive attention was to get good marks. I struggled so hard with this my entire life and fought my own heart so hard. I have never been interested in a career. I always dreamt of exploring the world, beauty, romance and family. It was only in my very late 20's that I started to let go of the shame that I never went to college and that it was a good choice for me.

[@nikeisagreekgoddess4135]

But what about your mom? Didn't she give you the tools to be a woman?

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Wellcome to every male life no matter who you are... think men have it good? Youre a tool if you dont perfome youre nobody, after you dont overperfom every one youre just considered bellow avarage.

[@cnote3598]

@@ArantyrDarkhand who gives a fuck what people think? Real men don't care for the opinions of strangers

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

@@cnote3598 most ppl... Most ppl cara about what strangers think. And this give then a endless surce of fale problem. Its Just see How social média is... If you use chances até youre one of then.

[@pandorasbox17]

Im in the same situation. Failed my first study in business administration. Now studying biology because I’m more interested in nature and not money like my father wanted me to go after . I also realized that chasing money is a dead end and will never fulfill. So I will chase my dreams and give a shit about what society will expect from me even if it mean’s that I’m not able to have a family. After my last break up it’s hard for me to give Love a second, or was it a sixth? Chance. I went through so much trouble loving girls which left me for no particular reason that I will just life the best life for me I can imagine for myself. Don’t know if the current dating situation will get better any time soon . And now with red pill knowledge everything makes so much more sense… good luck everybody finding your pourpose;) don’t sacrifice your precious energy for money. It’s wasted energy.