CIA Spy - What Security Levels Are Above Top Secret?

[@ChrisWillx]

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[@commandershepard9601]

I dont trust a word he says

[@LikeToWatch77]

@@commandershepard9601 - Agreed. His explanation of security clearances is wonky right from the start. An E-1 knows that: Confidential, the unauthorized disclosure of which would “cause damage to the national security” Secret, the unauthorized disclosure of which would “cause serious damage to the national security" Top Secret, the unauthorized disclosure of which would “cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.” Those are the three categories of collateral information. Sure it gets more complicated from there but that is the baseline.

[@ahhsick0]

Why is Chris having this guy on?????? Now you have to start asking WHO CHRIS is?????? Why is CHRIS ASSOCIATING with this guy who is CLEARLY STILL EMPLOYED with the CIA añd his MISSION is KZbin.

[@alelectric2767]

@@LikeToWatch77 And you know how it all works do ya.

[@LikeToWatch77]

@@alelectric2767 - Not all but quite a bit. It is very complex after all. But I did just do my annual InfoSec training so it's fresh in my mind.

[@Commander034]

Q clearances are for the Department of Energy. It is basically the same as Top Secret, DoE just uses a different scale.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

I know of one security level above top secret: don't tell wife.

[@alelectric2767]

Exactly! Edit: should we even be talking about this? 🤫🤐

[@-haclong2366]

And one above that: N.S.F.W.

[@BonifordBurnett]

First and most important

[@headdildo]

Yankee White, Cosmic?

[@ntal5859]

Having a wife is a guarantee to secret leaks.

[@steveolive9991]

Q clearance is the equivalent of Top Secret, but limited to only the Nuclear field. Just because you have a Top Secret clearance doesn't mean you are entitled to see any Top Secret material.....there's something called Need to Know. And if you don't need to see certain classified material, you will not be allowed to see it, regardless of your classification clearance.

[@ELPRES1DENTE45]

"Need To Know" description isn't 100% accurate. SOME specific positions/programs allow access to everything. But for the most part, you're correct.

[@tavaresmccree5005]

I thought there was 38 levels above top secret with the top clearance called majestic,Luna and ZD-47

[@decoding_the_truth33]

I believe the list is this from starting off at the highest Majestic Cosmic Luna Ultra Stellar Astral Cosmos TRAD orbit ZD-27 Top secret crypto 28-1 USAP SCI Top secret secret Confidential Restricted there is compartments inside of Compartments, a lot of sub categories an each agency more than likely has it’s different levels of compartment an sub category. it’s pretty hard to go into depth with it because they try to make it confusing an untraceable there is security with in security plus a lot agencies you hardly ever hear about unless it’s from a whistleblower usually.

[@JuJu916JuJu]

The top of the top of the top secrets are not even put into data so no one can ever know. That’s how deep it is

[@TooManyHorrorMovies]

How do you know?

[@bakerfrank101]

Exactly

[@bulgingbattery2050]

There are 40 levels of clearance above top secret, going all the way up to "majestic", also called "MAJIC".

[@jameswyman3973]

This guy is a CIA mouthpiece, he doesn't say shit that he isn't told to say.

[@napoleonfeanor]

Yes but he just described classification

[@LikeToWatch77]

@@napoleonfeanor - Poorly.

[@alelectric2767]

You give to much credit to government agencies

[@mikek860]

💯. Once an agent, always an agent.

[@Josh-pn3wz]

well duh, that would probably be illegal

[@lynnbrumfield8678]

The president theoretically has access to all classified information, but he would have to 1) know it exists, and 2) have enough information to ask the right questions. In this way the information is compartmentalized as a practical matter even from him.

[@negativeionz]

You are nailing these interviews. Zeihan and now Bustamante. Great work.

[@95TeggyRS]

"ultra" was deemed the highest level of clearance for a long time. as in MK-ULTRA "mk" being the abbreviation for the TSS or the office of technical service. this was declassified in "the search for the Manchurian candidate"

[@wondernutts]

It surprises me an ex CIA agent isn't aware that a Q and L clearance levels are DOE (not DOD) and related to Nuclear processes and weapons.

[@justz00t48]

Q clearance is DoE so yes it relates to nuclear arms but not exactly the military because they're just the end user of the arms and not responsible for creating them.

[@clownhands]

Q clearance is the department of energy’s equivalent to the defense department’s top secret clearance. This guy has almost no idea what he’s talking about.

[@commandershepard9601]

It's also a specific department. Atomic.

[@boomer39399]

UK TS levels are similarly compartmentalised. UK uses STRAP 1, 2, 3 (3 being the highest classification) to define special handling of TS material, and defo only on a need to know basis!

[@HitstikFit]

g14 classified.

[@fearlessway]

This guy is a propagandist. Oh man, he's got long hair and looks like a hippie... now we can trust him.

[@michaeld.4521]

suuuuure

[@randr302]

Great guest! Will the full interview be available?

[@LikeToWatch77]

Tomorrow.

[@Exodus26.13Pi]

Wait till they discover that Hebrew Cosmology is true.

[@JK-mh5lt]

I've seen a few clips with this guy already, but once I saw this I knew he was fake. Yeah you'll get a different version of this stuff from different people but this guy is way off on key points.

[@thewizardofozz7310]

Actually...Andrew Bustamonte is a VERY well known CIA spy/from the Agency..he goes into MUCH more in depth explainations of what he did(how they operate) and learned (in terms of CURRENT global politics) while collecting intelligence for the Agency on The Shawn Ryan(NavySeal/CIA Contractor) show KZbin channel-which you would like if you want to hear the personal accounts of Tier1/Elite Special Forces,like Erik Prince (the blackwater founder)and so many more..

[@kayiness]

Trump must've been licking his lips when he walked in lol

[@mikaeladisse8641]

You see the Q classification within the department of energy

[@Eddyanz]

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[@Toeso_Loso]

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[@mellstroy_unfazed]

This guy was on Lex Fridman’s podcast former CIA

[@ageofgaslightenment]

Makes you wonder why he's making the rounds. What's the end game here?

[@commandershepard9601]

@@ageofgaslightenment don't trust a word he says.

[@GenkiStarLeaf]

There's no such thing as a former CIA agent. Even in retirement he's still a government shill spreading propaganda.

[@mejdlocraftci]

Watched Lex's episode with him. When he started talking about Ukraine I was convinced he is full of shit because he couldnt possibly believe the stuff he was saying.

[@ageofgaslightenment]

@@commandershepard9601 oh I don't

[@Dannafilms96]

What about majestic clearance? aha

[@LordRykard9376]

Most classified info is already public knowledge, its the "how" and "who", the attribution of how the information was obtained and who provided it that make it potentially damaging.

[@DementedEeyore64]

Okay, Seth.

[@LordRykard9376]

@@DementedEeyore64 why even reply? You lonely?

[@KishoreG2396]

There is nothing above Top Secret. You can have SCI which is a caveat on top of TS but it’s not a clearance itself, just a category of information. A Q clearance is the same as a Top Secret for the DoE. If you have a TS with another agency through reciprocity you can probably get it transferred to a Q if you go to work for the DoE

[@MrMikeV00]

I can feel it.

[@peedypxblo]

As a member of the IC, it sucks everything being behind caveats but I get why.

[@lordofgingers]

My hypothesis is that Americans who having no interest in aiding foreign powers knowing stuff really doesn’t make a difference. It’s the foreign rivals and the I formation getting into THEIR hands that they are no doubt concerned about.

[@3hristopher]

So in a way It’s like a tree the branch has a secret and the leafs are more secrets some what connected to that but it’s own separate secret?

[@himehime1629]

Accessability and need to know is what separates the clearances, For most Top Secret information the person learning/accessing this information must be in the need to know and have the proper clearance. just about anybody who has a TS/SCI clearance usually has squeaky clean record of course things being permitted in the past because humans make mistakes obviously

[@ClaraBowInThisLight]

If we’re allowed to be seeing this… it’s not how it is. 😂

[@PengoLengo]

Q is specific to nuclear weapons

[@bulgingbattery2050]

There are things that so secret, that not even the president is allowed to know about them.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

That cannot be true, because the presidency holds the entirety of the authority of the executive branch, in one office. There's a reason for that -- so The People retain control over the executive branch, through elections.

[@MrMikeV00]

Im going that way.

[@MrMikeV00]

Can't your guys just come get me please.

[@zyubat]

Larper

[@napoleonfeanor]

Kinda what I expected.

[@goodluckyoureonyourown3684]

Q clear is DOE. The problem with asking one person about this is that they may know one or two specific aspects above a TS but thereafter, they are living in the same myth as the rest of us.

[@Thomas_Deering_King]

No no no. A Q clearance is the Department of Energy clearance for nuclear secrets. Above a Q is a sigma added to your Q, which grants access to the most precious weapons secrets, which you can't access with "only" a Q clearance.

[@monkeytrousers6180]

Aliens

[@bakerfrank101]

No the president....do not have the highest clearance...high but not heaven high

[@cftheking]

Where the he'll is the Destiny convo?

[@mellstroy_unfazed]

CIA 😂😂

[@ShawnWeisgram-ft5kq]

What I got from my top secret was arrested over thirty times 👍TY

[@CHAMPEZ-o5i]

Some things are done only in house which means you'll read a report and they literally will take it when you're done and they will burn it in front of another person to to have two people it's so stupid it's unbelievable and then the whole entering and exiting exiting procedure are you going to take all your clothes off put on a jumpsuit or whatever uniform they use is and that project I need to go see something that looks like a metal detector but it's not a

[@gailpeterson3747]

The majority of this information is not accurate or correct. 'Nuff said.

[@tavaresmccree5005]

Obama couldn't have a palm pilot but trump used a phone to tweet?????

[@MilkShake]

Love this guy, he's awsom!

[@minisuv22]

Crypto 1 and up

[@colinmccavitt1]

Horrible description.

[@thewanderingisraelite]

Me..? Crypto-Queen for (Cast-Recovery) B-1B program

[@artfay8382]

this guy is full of crap

[@matthewtoloczko6954]

That last bit isn't so uncommon, just the mean over time.

[@michaeld.4521]

What about Trump the Traitor?