The Truth About TRT And Longevity - More Plates More Dates

[@ChrisWillx]

Hello legends. Watch the full episode here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n57cmpaIeMqGkNk

[@aarongodwin5889]

TRT is a cover term. It's steroids. Just call it what it is. No big deal. Enanthates and Cypionates are steroids. The dosages range per person

[@matthewcourtney8683]

Great video, quality content, and well produced. However, you mispronounced “says” in “someone comes to you and says…”. It’s pronounced [sez] not [saez].

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@aarongodwin5889 Stop making sense here! Lol For most an excuse to do steroids while feeling good about it. Its from a doctor so I'm clean. Studies show only about 15% who use truly need it for true heath reasons. Great money maker for medical.

[@SoulMaxxing]

@@aarongodwin5889 "Death" is a cover term, my friend. It's simply a meme of a world 5 universes devolved in consciousness. Literally, no one HAS or EVER will die off of Earth - as you have 2 bodies.. with one being indestructible.. and the same one you move to every night and also permanently at physical termination. If you don't know this, how can you be so confident you are wielding a sufficiently informed context to properly evaluate the term TRT? Plus (not even going that deep) testosterone is not some foreign substance to the body which it does not produce itself in huge contrast to most traditionally defined steroids. You really are conflating the "steroids" term with the reasonable assistance TRT provides. Going back to the depths.. you simply have EMOTIONS or FEELINGS related to "natural" or "cheating" which would cause your injudicious intellectual conflation. Always reflect on the FEELINGS behind your THOUGHTS. Thoughts are just "covers" for emotions. Your soul is feeling entity.. and by 8th sphere the thinking organ of your consciousness will be absorbed into your feeling soul. Of course this is very advanced stuff. I am here to teach all.. and will be soon...

[@skiptoney1463]

I am 70 and had a heart valve replacement 4 years ago. I developed AFid and felt like hell. Got my blood tested and my testosterone was at 75 . My doctor put me on TRT and got my testosterone up to 400. TRT replacement saved my life. If you need it please get on it you will feel great.

[@ericsilva7430]

I wonder if going 2x higher like 800 would be dangerous for you because of age and the heart valve? 800 still normal level, 400 is still low. I had a tumor got low 85, take TRT to 400-500 and still din't feel so great, taking more now and keeping on 700-900 i feel even better. I'm 48 years old.

[@GaminHasard]

@@ericsilva7430you really feel better with more testosterone?

[@skiptoney1463]

@@ericsilva7430 good for you my T count is now about 1000, I try to keep it there. Good luck

[@prokeyavaimausa9412]

Bro is 70 wtf you don’t need test

[@ericsilva7430]

@@prokeyavaimausa9412 So a young guy may take a test up to 800-900, no problem, but does an old 70 guy have to keep it low, like 400?

[@yoshit9819]

I'm 60. Energy levels real low. Got back to working out ( weights) and eating right. Also simplified my life to lower stress. I feel like a new man. The weights help with stress levels

[@dawnmarie5872]

I guarantee the mass majority here if given a large amount of money their problems go away without TRT. Point is much is lifestyle. With money all the energy in the world to travel, buy cars, homes etc. I believe much in frame of mind which I think you do.

[@charlietom100]

It's the stress, when cortisol becomes chronic its like a death spiral to your health that becomes hard to break. The key is being happy with what you have in terms of money. If your partner is obsessed with keeping up with the Joness' then you need to reconsider the relationship, personal health should be the no1 priority, financial security is 2nd.

[@yoshit9819]

@@charlietom100 thank you. we aren't materialistic at all. It isn't a money thing. But you are right.

[@johns9969]

Same age, went high protein, raw veggies, back to my w/o when I was 30Y. Got my strength back. TRT scares me.

[@BenHall289]

@@dawnmarie5872men up to the 70’s did have higher test naturally. There’s been a big decline since then. Probably due to diet and lifestyle changes but nobody really knows.

[@thundrchild4195]

I'm 46 and had the chance to take TRT. My T was 155 and I felt terrible. Instead of taking TRT I instead lost 28 lbs. T then went to 265. Now I am at 355 and still climbing. There seems to be a direct parallel to body fat % and natural T levels. I Eat well, sleep well, lift weights 4x a week, and drink alot of clean water in glass not plastic. For now I'm glad I didn't go on hormone therapy and depend on drugs for something I was able to do myself.

[@SupaHoon]

Good for you but exogenous testosterone is a whole new ballgame. I'd never go back

[@thundrchild4195]

@SupaHoon good for you but now everything masculine about you comes from a 25ml vial. Enjoy.

[@OTDefense]

Good for you! TRT would have been easier but you'll be mentally stronger from doing life the hard way (and probably increase T naturally from doing something hard/manly).

[@scammellman]

You've just nailed it man, people should get their nutrition right, sleep right and fat levels right way before thinking of getting TRT.

[@WalshY_]

Awesome

[@mariovaladez4252]

Trt changed my life. I was so weak, fatigued, severe anxiety depression. Weight gain. HBP. The list went on. I’ve been on it for a year and have never felt better. Routine blood work is a must. Best thing is to find a solid doctor who knows men’s health and hormones. There are side effects that you have to navigate through, like back acne. Overall I feel amazing. I can play with my 5 kids and enjoy life again.

[@SachaGreif]

You got 5 kids… I think I cracked the case of why you were feeling fatigued and anxious!

[@sahancp]

@@SachaGreif I was gonna ask the same 😀. 5 kids , that’s forever work and stress.

[@krane15]

You left out enough detail to fill a database. Be more specific next time. TRT is not a cure for everything that ails you the way you present it here.

[@ticklemacbits2870]

What was your T levels before ?

[@ivanvee1258]

Could be mental too

[@sickmak90]

I just started TRT because I’m constantly fatigued and have terrible brain fog. Hoping it doesn’t shorten my life by much but if it does I hope the time I have left is better.

[@robwithrbk]

I had the same symptoms prior to TRT. Feeling great now years later. I'm only on .6ml a week. Numbers are solid now.

[@robwithrbk]

@damn dude peak is low 900's. Trough is prob low 600's. I do .3ml 2x a week. When I started in 2017, my T clinic didn't do 2x a week and thought I was off...I was like "bro, I'm in gyms 7 days a week, I know how people pin bro" lol. Now the whole clinic is 2x a week 😄

[@indiglo1971]

Your life probably will be shortened. Your testicles be probably be permanently damaged as well.

[@SolarJakee]

Bit late but what was your T level when you started? My peak is around 500, which is obviously considered the "healthy range". But I want to feel the best I can feel, not just sufficient.​@@robwithrbk

[@robwithrbk]

@SolarJakee when I started Trt in 2017 I was 237. I was incredibly fit and quite muscular then too. Still sort of am. Back then I was on about .85mil a week and never really had high numbers. Was always 500-600. I think my recent numbers of 900 with the lower dose is due to two things...1, I stopped drinking alchohol 2yrs ago 2, I'm also on HCG for 9mo now. These two factors have prob helped my numbers greatly. I have labs due soon and am curious if I hit 900 again as that is not my historical average. Hope that all made sense.

[@jasonhinkley5857]

I'm going to jump in here. Felt lazy lethargic and libido was in the toilet. Went on TRT for i think about a year and felt much better, but then I also went through a bit of depression during the Covid time and couldn't be bothered to inject myself so went off it for just over a year. Everything went to shit I got super lazy, argued with my wife ALOT, and sex was the last thing on my mind. This past year I shook myself out of my funk around March (?) started a keto diet, lost a bunch of weight, started going to the gym and felt stronger again, but something was still missing. Went back on TRT and honestly my life improved immensley, I'm more alert, my diet is dialed in, I'm having super intense workouts and my sex life is fkn' amazing. I'm happy again, my wife is happy again and the future just looks so much better. 51 yrs old

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

The only thing is that you'll have to stay on steroids for the remainder of your life. I prefer to do things naturally rather than taking steroids. But everyone is different, so if you're happy, then that's great!

[@jdog6620]

Around 50 myself. Athlete my whole life, still in gym 3+ times a week for last 20 years, etc. Tried TRT and LOVED it. Strength, fat loss, easy gains, etc. After about a year, acne showed up on back a lot. Tried everything to get rid of, couldn’t, so after 3 more months stopped. Would love to go on again but the acne was just too much. But, when it was good….. it was great.

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

@@jdog6620 And that's the reason I would not take steroids. My philosophy is this: As we age, we're SUPPOSED to get weaker. That's part of nature. To go against nature is foolish because there will always be some consequence - whether acne, shrinking testicles, increased cholesterol, hair loss, higher risk for heart attacks, etc. I have no problem in exercising and eating right to preserve strength and fitness as long as possible. But, once drugs are introduced, things immediately become unnatural because now you're using chemicals to try to combat the natural aging process, and this is a futile battle because nature will still take its course. Would I be stronger if I took steroids? Yes I would. But I prefer to go the natural path and use hard work and effort to preserve my strength as long as possible as I age. Doing things, the old fashioned way, without drugs, is definitely not easy; however, it builds mental strength and fortitude knowing that you are doing things naturally. And it gives me confidence that everything I do is natural. That's just my opinion. I have no issues with those who take TRT and who are helped by taking it. Each person must do what is right for him. But all I am saying is consider consequences in whatever choice you make.

[@MizzouRah78]

​@@user-sg8kq7ii3y Do you have any idea how unnatural most of us are? We go against nature from the moment we're born.

[@MizzouRah78]

​@@user-sg8kq7ii3y TRT isn't steroids...

[@RogueCylon]

Also Longevity is not just just living a good lifespan. But is really focused on healthspan. Living well into your older age. Who wants to be taking 20 medications and can’t hardly walk or remember shit, but are still loving.

[@markwick7898]

I train muscle factory, they all say that until I visit in hospital be careful what u wish for

[@JustinBPotter]

I have been on TRT for 3 weeks. I'm 40 years old and my last testosterone test level was 115. 3 weeks in I feel so much better overall. I'm back in the gym, eating better, just better in every way due to how much better I feel. My energy level was so low before, I was just doing what was easy. I had talked to my doctor about TRT for about a year before accepting his recommendation of injecting testosterone but I wish I would have done it sooner.

[@jeffreyvanco1164]

Low T is awful. Mine was 156. Estradiol was ZERO. So dangerously unhealthy. Get on TRT. It will improve your life by leaps and bounds.

[@kbone87]

I can't get over the giant needles. I'm in about the same position as you health n age wise but I never liked needles. I need to get brave

[@JustinBPotter]

@@kbone87 my pharmacist injected mine for me at first. He gives me two needles, one to pull it out of the bottle with, then I change it to a very small needle to inject it. Maybe try that, I hope it helps because it could make you feel much better if it’s right for you.

[@mattm3492]

@@kbone87 have someone pit it in your glute. Can't really feel it at all

[@ashleytaylor994]

Use insulin needles

[@TyyzhenTao]

My testosterone crashed at 30. Got tested and it was 105. Currently on TRT weekly dosage. It’s a night and day difference. I can get 6-8 hours of sleep and feel rested. I no longer have frequent headaches. I’m not tired 24/7. Increased strength and muscle mass. Can finally grow a beard and have body hair. I keep active because I work 60 hours a week. It’s a great life!

[@therealjeffg1838]

What’s was your prolactin level?

[@mattm3492]

Classic low T symptoms here but didn't realize it until i was tested and got the results and started looking into TRT. Started my first does 9 weeks ago and its been life changing. I also have afib, psvt and high blood pressure. My heart health hasn't felt better ever. Giving my symptoms and the way I feel now I'm pretty sure I've been low T for waybover a decade maybe even 2 and I'm only 38. For the people that actually need it you benefit so much from it you'll be mind blown

[@jasonbaker6842]

Can you elaborate on how TRT impacted your blood pressure? I have higher blood pressure, but recently discovered I have low testosterone and am considering TRT.

[@mattm3492]

@Jason Baker it didn't impact my blood pressure. Well trt will increase your BP. What its done for me is lessen my palpitations by a whole lot.

[@spointz8936]

Have you experienced any hair loss at all?

[@ticklemacbits2870]

What was your T levels to be classed as low ?

[@mattm3492]

@spointz not that I've noticed

[@christianarizabaleta6229]

I started doing TRT about a year ago. So far it has been great.

[@kungfudavie]

I started around the same time as you. How’s it going? I found it took 6 months to really start to kick in. Change in life has been fantastic

[@newgtguy]

I'm a 52 year old male. 7 years ago I was overweight and depressed. My doctor had my testosterone tested. It came back at 21ng/dL (normal is 500-800). He started me on TRT immediately. Many people told me this would "kill" me. There were worried about prostate. Well, almost 8 years later, my PSA just came back at 1.15. Thus, for me, TRT had/has zero impact on my prostate. However, since then, I'm lost 100 lbs., I can now run an 8 min mile, bench 315, and see my abs for the first time in 20 years! Does it work??? Hell yes! Also, my income has tripled since starting TRT.

[@seeekerman1342.]

You can just get it from the source by saulking a bunch of caulk.

[@rugbyslug]

hell yeah!

[@transikk]

I say half of what you said is cap.

[@newgtguy]

@@transikk Be more specific... What is crap about MY story?

[@budoway1860]

@newgtguy, don't listen to this guy. He's just an internet troll. Happy your life has changed after trt. I'm trying to fix mine naturally but won't opposite trt if I need it. Oh and btw, cap = Lie! Stay strong!

[@doctorwhodj]

Not sleeping is the underrated life shortener

[@krane15]

Imagine an engine that running. At some point you have to do maintenance or repair or replace old parts. But if that engine is running all the time, there's no way to do that. The human body is similar in that it repairs and does maintenance when you sleep. In order to for it to do that completely and thoroughly, you need to be taken off-line and shut down. That state is deep sleep. The longer you're in that state, the more time you give your body to do all its maintenance and repair from the wear and tear during your awake time. Remember, for every hour loss from sleep, you take time off your life. Sleep is life.

[@therehastobesomethingmoore]

61, been on TRT for a year. I was lethargic and fat. Now dropped 35 pounds. I’m either in the gym or on a long walk and feeling GREAT. Going to slowly drop another 25 pounds and put on a few pounds of muscle ( doing Mentzer - Yates HIT training ). It has been wonderful just being in a normal range. I am not doing enough to go over normal range. My longevity previously was laughable. Now ?

[@mattg6027]

Been lifting weights since I was 15...Waited till age 51 to get my T levels tested, was low , 274. It's been 5 months of 1 mil per week of TRT... Game changer.

[@krane15]

Next time list at least one way it "changed the game."

[@overnightavenger1470]

​@krane15 how do you think. Everyone says the same things. Lower body fat mental clarity energy..... like really

[@jeffl915]

I got on it about 3 years ago. My labs showed I was in the 200’s, and I absolutely felt like shit, every day. Had zero sex drive, no energy, overall just felt bad. Now I keep my level between 700-800, and feel like a person again. I still get tired, and have my aches and pains, but dont feel anything like before. I dont ever want to go back to feeling like that, and the funny thing is, it slowly creeps up on you, and the next thing you know, you feel like shit every day.

[@Bigbro4443]

How much trt are you taking weekly?

[@jeffl915]

@@Bigbro4443 I use a 3ml syringe, and do .5 once a week.

[@mikehuffman8208]

Wife practices medicine and we tested my T level last year ... sub 300 at age 52. Went on TRT and it's been a game changer ... improved mood, sleep, strength, endurance, libido. Kicking myself for not doing this 10+ yrs ago. Get with a doc and have your hormones checked - it's worth it if your levels are in the gutter like mine were. I did pellets for 6mos and then we shifted over to weekly injections. Pellets were great but didn't like sitting around for 5 days after insertion, having a big lump in my butt cheek, and expelling a couple of pellets toward the end of the cycle. YMMV.

[@tristanmolina894]

I need to get off pellets. I feel like some times my body absorbs it slow and sometimes to fast that is gives me bad hypertension. Injections sound better

[@NonprofitWrench]

Sound lucky. My testosterone is 175 and free testosterone is 6, I also have low T symptoms, but my doctor will not prescribe and will not recommend I see endocrinology. Mayo Clinic is awful unless you're wealthy, famous, or connected. Idk what to do, and I can't afford to go out of network to a private specialist.

[@mikehuffman8208]

@joe6831 Joe6831 worth considering for those with low numbers and who are active, fit, and still getting after it enough to benefit from increased levels. If not active and fit, then probably not worth doing. What you put into it is what you'll get out of it, basically.

[@elaRRman]

@@mikehuffman8208 Aight bro , i hope you are here in 10 years from now to tell the story . Yall fucked up in the head honestly . Stay natural all that extra shit is just bs . You want results ? then get to working and stop crying like a b*tch . You should try increase your testo naturally before injecting anything else into your body . That mindset of fast gains , fast solutions aint gon get you nowhere champ . There are no shortcuts when it comes to health

[@kingbryant82]

​@NonprofitWrench go to your urologist they will help you

[@mikek860]

I’m 43. I eat extremely healthy and work out 6 days a week. I wasn’t feeling right for the last few years in terms of energy, libido, brain fog etc. I finally got my test levels checked a month ago and was shocked- 260 with free test of 34, with everything else that was tested for the same time in healthy ranges. I started TRT last week and did my second shot two days ago. Really looking forward to Just seeing what this will do for my life. The bottom line is I saw no reason whatsoever not to start it.

[@ralphg3454]

You have exactly the same story as me. Same age , I'm 220 with a free test of 34. Starting trt tomorrow.

[@soy1700]

? Free test of 34 is high as fuck. Why did you get on TRT?

[@anatta467]

its a trend. you can use chinese medicine to balance your T levels naturally. And you wont wear your liver and organs out. no matter what anyone says. trt is not healthy

[@Nomatterwhatclub5150]

@@soy1700 lol, read his comment again. The answer is in there.

[@dawnmarie5872]

First, why are you working out 6 days a week? When natural 4 days is prime. Any more could be draining test more than you produce, more than your body can handle reducing energy, increasing fog. I'm a 63 year old male working two on one off, two on two off coming in at 535 test naturally. Maybe over-training?

[@gonzayare]

My grandma used to lift buckets on her head when she was 90 years old, so she could go to sell food in a local market (she always received $$$$$ from more than 40 grandsons, it wasn't by necessity). She used to eat a lot of spicy food and red meat every day. She died at 103 years old, genetics plays a huge role in quality and longevity.

[@rickx86]

Lifestyle far outweighs genetics. Your single use case of your grandma is pretty irrelevant because I guarantee you that if she was living life as an alcoholic or drug abuser she would have died a lot sooner and guess what…she would have had the same genetics.

[@gonzayare]

@@rickx86 Very great point, but I think you went to the extreme, a regular person drinking a beer since in a while will not live as much and healthy as my grandma no matter how well he takes care of himself with a decent diet and regular exercise. Most people's organs start failing way before 90 years old. I hope I am wrong and science proves a regular person can get a great decent life with next generation of medicine plus healthy lifestyle. ✌️

[@DeportillegalAliens]

Red meat is the king nutrition

[@maros495]

@@gonzayare you said it your grandma lifted stuff at 90. Most people in 50 with litle pain stop doing any lifting.

[@mrwnking]

I'm 42, and my levels were 58 of testosterone. For me, I'm just tired all the time not wanting to do anything with my daughter, like going on walks and going to the park. For me, my levels were so low, my doctor told me, yea, you're going to get on testosterone, and she only saw 1 other person with low testosterone like mine. I heard good things about it and talked with my doctor for about 45 minutes about testosterone. I'm on my 2nd week. I'm looking forward to just having energy, and I'm going to start eating better and getting back in the gym. I'm just looking forward to being happy again.

[@nvm7047]

Yeah as long as you are not a fatass its good. If not, ypu f up, couse being a fatass downs significantñy your test, in that case u just need to loose weight

[@omarcastillo2072]

Goodluck pal 💪🏽

[@johnnyringo8312]

Did it for the same reasons I had low energy and long hours on farm. Couldn’t keep up w kids wife work training. 2 years on clear mind got off blood pressure meds and six pack is a plus

[@beachlife4704]

@Mr King So it's been two months. How are you doing now?

[@mrwnking]

@beachlife4704 I feel a little better, I got my appointment this month. I'm hoping they up it just a little more. I know it will be a little while before me and my doctor can get it dialed in.

[@Mral236d]

True trt from an actual doctor with testing and not “self prescribed” trt is healthier than not being on trt with unhealthy low levels of testosterone. Since going on trt my heart health has significantly improved, my bodyfat is lower (not that it was high at all to begin with) and my hdl is way up while my ldl has lowered. I’m the healthiest I’ve been in almost a decade. I didn’t realize almost all my health issues I was having was related to me having low T. If you are at healthy t levels with no low t side effects there’s no reason to go on it

[@seraph...4473]

Yeah I mean as long as you arent allergic to the carrier oils and you can monitor the T levels you actually have and keep them within healthy ranges for your age it seems like there are almost no downsides at a certain age. Obviously dont go on it until a certain age or T level but yeah.

[@BlackCanvasAudio]

I got on TRT right after the Covid lockdowns. My bloodwork was a disaster two years later. My red blood cell count was abnormally high. I've been off TRT since November 2022. I just recently (last week) started feeling somewhat good again. It took my body around 3 full months to even begin to recover. My T levels are still super low sub 200 but I feel better than I did. I'm going to try and rebound naturally with a clean diet and 5 days in the gym a week. Don't take your health for granted.

[@AbcDino843]

Were you on a clean diet and going to the gym 5 days a week while on TRT? Was your TRT protocol skillfully adjusted for your needs and your body's response? A lot goes into successful application of TRT, including blood donations for Hemoglobin management.

[@jordonpumpin]

What doses were you taking? Trt is mimicking your natural test levels, with your red blood count going up, that’s mean your dose was way to high. Did you go to an endocrinologist or a specific test doc ?

[@BlackCanvasAudio]

@@jordonpumpin I was using Victory Mens Health which is far from an endocrinologist! lol Yeah man, they had me all jacked up. I finally feel better now it took over 4 months. I'm cleaning up everything now. Just a super clean diet and tons of cardio/strength training.

[@Lewis-me7jr]

You should be donating blood every few months to dump some of those red blood cells if you’re on TRT. The clinic should have advised you to do so, but it seems that they rarely do. I had the same thing happen, but after I donated blood I almost immediately felt better. I love TRT. FREAKING LOVE IT. I don’t regret my decision at all.

[@CryptoXaos]

@@BlackCanvasAudio PCT

[@GaminHasard]

I have sleep apnea and testosterone of 216 ng/dl. Massive brainfog and lack of drive and consistency. Fixing the sleep apnea first. Which has been not straight forward at all. But dieet and weight training hopefully help also.

[@rampageashton]

I’m in Trt at 48. My test plummeted post vasectomy. And my world ended it’s was horrible. Now my levels are stable I feel great. I have a high sex drive an strong and happy. My blood is good. It’s saved my life.

[@justmyself1000]

Did you look into the cause of your testosterone levels dropping? That's where I think a lot of people are going wrong they're not finding why their testosterone levels are low.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@bgoodorhell4u Same with many different drugs right? They fix the problem and you are happy. But!!! Down the road maybe not so good.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@bgoodorhell4u Yes, with TRT. Its a drug, a steroid in simple form. You are now addicted like it or not both mentally and physically. Don't know who told you the problem was low test but some reason to believe it wasn't because it isn't in most, the steroid is making you feel better for now. Trust me, I'm a 63 year old male with a great deal of knowledge on the subject. I have weight trained over 30 years still to this day. Problem is it will require more over time because you are stopping your natural production and will never be able to leave it without some due stress. No matter what anyone tells you this is fact. The reduction in hormones with age is normal, natural while steroids to elevate is not.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@bgoodorhell4u If it makes you happy have at it! If being addicted is ok for you then no issue. By the way, the stuff in Mexico isn't real my friend, its 95% counterfeit. Many people are happy pain killers are available too and we know where that goes. Just saying they are all Big Pharma drugs. My daughter got a divorce over him taking steroids, he is addicted. I wish you the best.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@bgoodorhell4u Oh please, this is enough. There are articles everywhere where they buy steroids in Mexico, test them and they are junk. There are plenty of ones who write prescriptions in Mexico, I did business there for over 25 years. Thailand every steriod is legal don't mean I'll take it. Hey do what makes you happy but never say you were not warned my friend.

[@patrickgrimm6146]

I'm 30. Started having low energy, low libido, etc. Changed my diet a few years ago and eat completely clean, drink nothing but water, active all the time, but nothing changed. So I decided to get my levels tested, Total T was 280 & Free T was 6. I was shocked at how low my Free T was. I already tried every option except TRT so I saw my doctor and discussed it with him. Decided to go on TRT and after a short time I'm already feeling 'normal' again. TRT definitely has its time and place to be used, it's not a cure-all as some people like to think.

[@Owen-C1997]

You may have just had really high SHBG

[@patrickgrimm6146]

@user-rl9ff5rn4w that's what I was expecting but it wasn't abnormally high

[@krane15]

TRT is an old man's remedy.

[@commonsense7057]

@@Owen-C1997 Thats what my issue is. I had a total T of 872 but a SHBG of 100 and a free T of 21. Mine happened after a brain hemorrhage from a motorcycle accident. Doctors gave me TRT but I have to take 200mg a week to bind up enough of the SHBG that my free T can be in the upper normal range. Would of preferred to just get the SHBG under control and not have to stick myself 4 times a week (2 for HCG and 2 for TRT). Tempted to come off the TRT and see a different neurologist to see if they can figure out what went wrong. Spent a year going to doctors and all tests came back normal.

[@elaRRman]

​@@patrickgrimm6146 Such a pity a young man like you taking the easy way out . For any change in our lives there is a shittone of hard work you gotta put in if you wanna see results . Obv you did not have patience . I hope at least you thought of the risk factor and you are prepared with whatever sides TRT comes with . Good luck

[@projectmayhem2330]

I’ve just started TRT 1 week ago. I’m 39. Worked out routinely for 20 years. I’ve been opposed to any ‘gear’. But I’ve had low test since I first got tested at 25 yrs old. I’m excited about what this will bring me, it has nothing to do with aesthetics and all about quality of life

[@davidpayne1179]

any updates? thanks

[@projectmayhem2330]

@@davidpayne1179 loving great!!! Sex drive is back!! I’ve made great gains in the gym, not needing an afternoon nap anymore. My test level are sitting mid of normal range.

[@gramz23]

What was your test numbers? And free test

[@projectmayhem2330]

@@gramz23 total test was 8.2 nmol/L, most recent with TRT 24.4 nmol/L

[@ibberman]

But now you are on gear, and will have to stay on for life.

[@estiestrydom8740]

Stress will kill you in your 30's, knew a neighbour who was a marathon athlete, he sadly died at 36, he was super healthy in his life!but very stress prone, he died of an heart attack. The truth is if you have an unbalance then you may benefit from hormone treatment, if it makes you happy you might live longer regardless compared to without it, or it might be just damn be the equivalent possibly.

[@douglasnewsome9085]

I am 62 and naturally 700. 5’7” and 160 lbs. I’ve worked out since I was 15. Happy with where I’m at.

[@isiradulran7742]

@E S loll thats true

[@krane15]

Your point?

[@rickx86]

@@krane15 I don’t get his point either. Lmao

[@rally_chronicles]

@@krane15 sèe below

[@em34ev3r]

@@krane15 That you're a beta low T male, needing exogenous juice?

[@philipwhitcomb5358]

The number of people who use TRT as a quick fix even though they don't take care of themselves in various aspects of their lives is always astounding.

[@kxkxkxkx]

Pretty much the entire US medical industry promotes those kind of false "solutions" 🤭

[@philipwhitcomb5358]

@@kxkxkxkx Sadly, this is too damned true. It's creating something out of nothing for the sake of wealth, fame and fortune. Ugh ☹️

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

Yep, people take TRT yet still drink alcohol. Alcohol has been proven to lower testosterone levels. Doesn't make sense to me.

[@guilherme8930]

Os americanos são um povo afeminado e com homens fracos. Por isso eles não querem deixar usar testosterona

[@randykandle8622]

I see homeless tweekers wearing masks outdoors too.

[@harpazo4173]

40+ year old male here..two years ago I was over 300lbs, 41% body fat, and on the cusp of type 2 diabetes...I had my T-levels tested which were super low and got on TRT. I got on a dedicated workout/diet program..fast forward to today I'm 239lbs, 15% body fat, blood work/heart health is great, PSA levels are good. Just like the other guys commenting..doing TRT the right way can change your life for the better.

[@rally_chronicles]

You should have done all of that before taking trt. If you couldn't, it means you have no willpower, buddy boy.

[@mickbenson9161]

I'm 42 and I've been on TRT for six years now. I get a Nebido shot (Testosterone Undecanoate) every 8-9 weeks, and a blood test every six months. My levels have been super stable in the high "normal range" for years now and I've felt fantastic. Strength, drive, libido, clarity, focus, sleep quality, mood, energy, recouperation, body composition.. Everything is back to how I felt in my early 20's. No side effects. For ageing guys with low T, it should be a no brainer to get on doctor supervised TRT. I'm not sure why more doctors aren't prescribing Undecanoate in the US. It's a much better compound for stable TRT levels than Enanthate and Cypionate and you don't have to get injections every week.

[@thecar4548]

Hi Mick,just turned 43 couple days ago,i’m on TRT as well 3 months now,taking Nebido ones in 5 weeks,feel much better,but never done the blood work since.However steel have depression episodes.

[@Hardwork213]

Thanks for the info on Nebido!

[@atag512]

47 last week. started TRT (nebido) last year, this is my 4th shot, and the same, every 8-9 weeks. everything you said is correct. Muscle mass, 7 pounds and I look much better than I used to at around 42. The gym is 3 days a week, 45 minutes, and not too heavy. Diet as well but certainly not strict at all. I do have a thyroid issue as well and that is managed properly. I would add that i started a "natural" Test Booster that I can confirm 100% raised everything, including my libido and I still do use it intermittently (more for the libido tbh)....

[@mickbenson9161]

@@atag512 That's great man. I would say that the effect you describe from the "natural" test booster is unfortunately most likely 100% placebo. When a man takes synthetic testosterone, like Nebido, the brain detects the excess and stops production of LH and FSH. That means the body quits producing intratesticular (natural) testosterone, and consequently, production of sperm due to the suppression of LH and FSH. A test booster will not cause the testicles to start producing natural testosterone while on TRT. I'm glad you're doing well though, and I'm happy that you've had good results with Nebido (like me). Keep it up!

[@manantheking]

Hi Mick . My doc prescribed me undecanoate. But read in many trt forums on FB and reditt that it's not a good protocol and one has to inj weekly for healthy T levels. My doc is saying u just need one injection. I am unable to convince for more. What test do you do on six monthly basis?

[@LK-bz9sk]

Only get on TRT if absolutely necessary. Until two years ago I was all good. After I had Covid at 60 years old, my thyroid cratered and my T levels were in the toilet and I felt like crap. I am on Levothyroxine now with low dose cy and get blood work every 6 weeks. Just trying to be healthy …not recreating my youth and being a sprinter again.

[@timh1187]

Imagine being capable of being a sprinter till you were 60.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@timh1187 I run a 4.9 at 63 completely natural. Slow for me as 4.4 when I was 25. Can be done. Did I say I need time to breath after? Lol

[@Dylan23-]

What were your thyroid levels?

[@andreasleonhard1512]

I am 40 and I've been on TRT for the past 3-4 years. For me, it was a huge game-changer. I was in good shape before, but I was constantly tired and I had a lot of brain fog. I honestly think I've probably had low T for a lot of years without noticing. My T level was around 200. Most likely it has been an issue my entire life. My dad and my brothers, all had thick full beards, whereas I had pretty much no facial hair. I always thought it would come as I got older, but it just never came. That combined with being tired all the time and having brain fog for many years (at least since mid of 20's), leads me to believe I've always had this issue.

[@johng5780]

Any beard growth since hopping on TRT?

[@andreasleonhard1512]

@@johng5780 Yes, definitely. Not the same level as my brothers, but it is getting better and better year for year

[@dopamine-87]

Whats your diet, sleep and exercise routine look like if you dont mind me asking? Before trt that is..

[@andreasleonhard1512]

@dopamine-87 I was actually training for a marathon when I got my testosteron checked out. So I was running 10-15 km 5 days a week. Most of my life, I've lifted weights 3-5 times a week. My diet was lackluster. I sometimes ate healthy but also ate unhealthy. As far as sleep, i've had issues with it a lot of my adult life. I go to bed early but I do wake up on a regular basis. It should also be noted that I have a tumor in my pituitary gland, that they think can have affected my hormon levels

[@c.518]

I'm not so sure about the link between beards and test levels. I myself have a chuck Norris beard but bet my testosterone is the same as the next guy. Some dudes can grow a beard, and others can't, like johnny depp and keanu, it is what it is

[@stephenwalker5253]

Been saying for years quality over quantity, yes i want to live healthy as long as i can. The way i see its either TRT or the half a dozen medications that the pharma industry want my GP to push on me. The pharma industry does not have an interest in your health, as people should realise they just want profit.

[@blantant]

If you have serious plans to have children, TRT can/will seriously stunt your spermatogenesis. Trt is also slightly hypercoagulable, it doesn't hurt to take an aspirin/baby aspirin to offset this if there are any other risk factors for cardiovascular disease. There are always trade-offs but i feel like it is helpful to the vast majority of patients

[@zibtihaj3213]

" seriously stunt your spermatogenesis " that reverses ones you are off for 2 months or so

[@Mike_not23]

Great point when it comes to having kids. Had to get off trt and wait almost 3 months to get my count up. Male clinic swore it couldn’t be my trt regiment. Fertility Dr told me otherwise.

[@seth8982]

HCG

[@ScooterMakGavin]

Hcg

[@travishowrish6805]

It massively increases heart disease risk. I would switch to plant based or vegan if you go on TRT as well.

[@AkashGupta24]

I feel a lot of people now use TRT when they are not actually clinically deficient and do for potential benefits for fat loss and muscle building.

[@kellrockets101]

I tend to agree...and I think lifestyle habits often get neglected at trying to improve as well for the quick fix

[@mrv2308]

And they call people “soyboys” when in reality they are because they can’t even have high testosterone naturally 😂

[@maxmeier532]

also, "clinically" deficient is a pseudo scientific term. there is such a interindividual high variability in test levels and associated symptoms that there cant be threshold levels that make any sense. it's all quite arbitrary.

[@DojoofGain]

Why not?

[@rickx86]

You don’t need to be clinically deficient to qualify because everyone is different and it should be about how the person feels and what symptoms they are having. If you feel like shit and have several symptoms of low T and you go to a doctor and get tested and you are within their clinical range of what they think “normal” should be are you just going to go home and say well I guess that is not the problem because I’m not clinically deficient??? LMAO 😂

[@Wetterwet]

I recommend you looking into having Dr. Mike Israetel from Renaissance Periodization as a guest. Brilliant and funny dude who knows everything about hypertrophy. I am sure you and your listeners would benefit from having him as a guest!

[@travishowrish6805]

"Knows everything about hypertrophy" The dude cant even win local amateur bodybuilding shows lol. The few times he tried to compete he was literally the worse in the whole show.

[@mikeabel7577]

@@travishowrish6805 Sure, let's discount all of his research and hard work just because he doesn't have the genetics to win a bodybuilding show. Makes a lot of sense.

[@Owen-C1997]

@@travishowrish6805 how many have you won?

[@shawnbadger2737]

​@@mikeabel7577 His last show flopped, not because of genetics, but because he was carrying way too much fat on show day. Had he been lean enough, he would have at least had a shot at the podium.

[@frankm841]

TRT should be used for therapeutic reasons only and not used in conjunction with other compounds. It definitely helps those who are in need and suffering from low libido, brain fog, anxiety etc, however to much of anything is never good and only take what is needed, also have a physician monitor your protocol for side effects and you should be fine.

[@SonsofIssac]

I’m 41 been on TRT for a little over a year. Took my test from 220’s to 780’s. I feel great. Lost 10 lbs, observed my traps, delts and pecks get noticeably larger without even working out. My mood is so steady, no ups, no downs, just steady… sex drive is awesome. I do have a donate bloody every 2 months to keep the hemoglobin down to high 16’s… I couldn’t get free time to donate for a while and my hemoglobin went up to 17.5… not good… my blood pressure was out of whack for a while but I fixed it with magnesium and potassium tablets

[@kurek9418]

do you also use HcG or AI , and what was your dose ? I wonder if only using test e would affect sex drive

[@Windom_Craig]

I'm a few months away from 45 and I've been on trt for roughly a year now. I started at 87.2 and now I'm at 550 or so. It's been nothing short or life changing for me.

[@davidpayne1179]

131-192 for me at the age of 44 and I am always so tired, I workout and walk everyday while playing sports and my career, Did you Dr put you on it or did y ou go a different route, thanks

[@Windom_Craig]

@@davidpayne1179 my Dr. Refered me to a urologist he put me on a med that didn't work. I went to a testosterone clinic. They went through my insurance so I don't pay much ou of pocket for it.

[@steveh1121]

Nothing will shorten your life more then worrying how long your going to live. Not medical advice just my opinion 😆

[@xworkingboyx]

Stress is a hell of a drug.

[@devonstultz4529]

Unless it motivates you to be healthy.

[@steveh1121]

@@devonstultz4529 true but I believe diet and exercise should be about quality of life not quantity and the former usually affects the latter.

[@EastCoastPGS]

You’re right. I need to stop thinking about death myself.

[@alaefarmestatesllc]

I agree. Stress to me is almost worse than anything else

[@johnrambo4245]

I keep my test at a steady 40nmol / 1150 ngdl it changed my life. I can sleep again, brain fog disappeared, i have energy again, no more muscle loss, its great

[@reddmist]

I am a Marek Health customer and a big fan of Derek. They are on top of all the new research and are so good about being responsive and working with you based on your own test results, it's expensive but it's probably the best money I have ever spent

[@gympho1]

Way overpriced, @nextlevelhrt is nationwide and they wont take your life savings like Marek

[@jonl7855]

Oh, really? I am currently considering TRT and researching the different options. Can you tell me if you think that your care is quite expensive? How much does it cost per month and did it take a while to talk to the practitioners?

[@allentempleton2429]

My doctor told me that very often people who obsess over preventing a certain disease or denying themselves every joy in life in an effort to live longer are often blindsided by some totally unexpected condition or event. He suggested living a healthy lifestyle but focusing on having a quality life in the here and now. TRT, a good diet and excercise helps me live a quality life as I approach retirement. Perhaps if I starve myself to a bone bag and walk 10 miles a day I might last a couple more years while I drool on myself in a wheelchair. On the other hand I can live while I'm alive.

[@Jonakaiii]

Such a stupid take. So anyone who worries about their health gets blindsided by a disease?! The vast majority get blindsided by a disease regardless. I work out because I want to look better and feel better today… and indefinitely. longevity is a plus benefit but the the main benefit of why people work out. If you want an excuse to be fat and unhealthy.. then that’s on you. Don’t mask it by saying “my doctor said people who worry about health get sick”

[@trainerd1]

Decide now whether you want to live long and skinny to the point of sarcopenia with an AMPK lifestyle or a somewhat shorter life with quality and an MTOR lifestyle. Do your TRT, eat healthy, get regular blood work, get sound sleep. Train hard. Strokes when you’re on TRT usually come from a high hematocrit level which can be remedied by regular blood donations .

[@Nomatterwhatclub5150]

Also cardio and drink a lot of water.

[@dawnmarie5872]

Thanks doc. I'll stay natural thanks. No wonder drugs for me.

[@Owen-C1997]

@@dawnmarie5872 it's a medication if warranted lmao not a wonder drug

[@rickx86]

@@dawnmarie5872 TRT is a last resort drug when nothing else works and the person is experiencing low T symptoms. There is nothing wrong with that. If you’re a happy person in general and life is good then there would be no reason for someone to take TRT even if they have low T because symptoms are more important than T count. But if it is a matter of living a miserable life and be “natural” and living a joyful life while on TRT then why wouldn’t you? Do you judge other people on medication if it helps them live a better life?

[@khalilhannah4005]

42 yr old 4 weeks in and the placebo so far is stellar

[@valkarcy]

25yo here with hypogonadism. ~260ng/dl for 2 years. Then spent my last year doing everything i can to raise my levels. The highest i ever got was 330 and i felt like absolute shit. Got on trt now i sit at 800total and 30free. Life is so much better in every way. Its so worth it to optimize your hormones!

[@paynetrain2658]

Glad to hear this, 24 with what seems primary hypogonadism and thinking about trt.

[@lukewillmott1743]

Hey man, any downsides you’ve found with trt? Or all good?

[@dannyandrews6082]

I have run testosterone since I was 17 I’m now 34 I am healthy look healthy eat well and happy I don’t abuse it I feel great

[@dcmiguel7777]

I started and stopped (age 38-39) after a year having nonstop anxiety attacks, agoraphobia and claustrophobia when I never had any history of it. Took about year for the symptoms to finally start to subside. EDIT*I should have prefaced with i felt great at first especially the first 6 months I started to recover faster from meniscus tear surgery.

[@shelr8204]

Are you saying once you started and stopped it caused your anxiety ect? What was your cycles and dosage for the year you were on if you don't mind elaborating. Thanks

[@sronnau99]

Did the TRT trigger the attacks?

[@chelious1973]

I am 50 and have been on TRT for 17 years. No adverse effects. Zero. My calcium score is zero. My heart morphology is normal. My body fat is around 10-15 percent dependant on the season. Winter its more etc. Dereck is spot on. Maintain a healthy weight, eat right, dont drink and lift weights or exercise.

[@alfredzig2035]

You started taking taking that stuff at the age of 33? That's ridiculous. If, because of some reasons, say affordability/availability , you can't get it anymore ... why will you be doing?

[@chelious1973]

@@alfredzig2035 34 actually. There are many different factors instead of age. They found my low test on a rountine doctor checkup. Mine was a adverse effect from a flu vaccine. You cannot get it anymore? What are you talking about?

[@ChrisP3000x]

@@alfredzig2035 Supposedly many men can't produce it naturally ever again after stopping TRT. Sounds scary to me. Most people just live for today and don't worry about it.

[@RogueCylon]

David Sinclair is on the board of the company that is working with the FDA to ban NMN as a supplement. There’s many benefits to NMN, including the combination with Apigenin and TMG that help with muscle growth and recovery.

[@dubstepXpower]

Wait why would he try ban NMN I've heard him talk about it and benefits? He takes it himself lol?

[@RogueCylon]

@@dubstepXpower banned as a supplement, not a prescribed drug. That’s where he will make his $$$$, just like when he sold his Resveratrol company.

[@ezrsaidndone1718]

@@dubstepXpower do you not understand that he works for big pharma and their interests?

[@motiictv]

I am 38, test is at 319, really high cholesterol, triglycerides and elevated TSH levels. Low energy, motivation, libido, brain fog, all the symptoms. I am going to start TRT, HCG, Thyroid Support Complex, Lithyronine Sodium + Levothyroxine - T3 / T4, BPC-157 and probably some Vitamin D3 / K2 and OMega 3. Honestly, I am bit nervous to start TRT, but I feel so incredibly shitty, and have been for the past 5 years that I am willing to take the risk. I am working with Marek Health. I will update as things progress.

[@Lookover1986]

I’m 37 test was 247 work night shifts for 18 years same symptoms your getting and I hated the idea of needles (auto inject helps) I started TRT 7 weeks ago -test 100mg weekly with AI -25mg Clomid twice a week -DHEA daily Feeling pretty good but also check your sleep cause I just found out I have mild sleep apnea and it could screw with your hormones

[@rickx86]

@@Lookover1986makes no sense that they have you on testosterone and Clomid because injecting the T will make your body stop producing its own T and Clomid is used in men to try and naturally increase production of T. So that really makes no sense.

[@rally_chronicles]

Are you fat? Do you work out 4x a week?

[@rally_chronicles]

@@Lookover1986 are you fat? Do you work out 6 days a week.

[@zyncarla]

Sounds like the cause is a shit diet and lack of meaningful exercise

[@guyhaley]

I started trt two months ago. after one month I felt like superman at the gym. Like i was 21 all over again. Never felt better in my life than I did last friday. Then this monday after my morning workout I had a stroke. They said if was not in extrordinary physical condition i would be dead or severely injured. As it is now i have use of all my extremities and i can walk. If I cant walk or if i cant go in the ocean any more then that is not a life i want. 52 years of alcoholism and smoking for forty years cant be undone with 2.5 years clean and sober and off smokes. I think I bought this stroke years ago and it just showed up monday. No more TRT for me.

[@guyhaley]

@@JuiceSaucee they say it thickened my blood to much. my heart could handle it but not my brain. I also was a drug addict alcoholic for 52 years and i smoked 1-5 packs per day for 40 years. I dont think I wiped out 52 years of bad behavior with three years of recovery. I waited to do TRT until I was consistant at the gym for a year and a half. I think I paid for this stroke years ago and it showed up monday. Last friday i felt like superman. just my experience.

[@justinklenk]

Thank you for sharing that, man. Get low and take care of what you need to - what you really are wanting to, here - extremely fundamentally. Progress extremely slowly through the "disaster" of this, distracting yourself when necessary, indeed, for your sanity, then shifting back to your center. I know this will make sense to you, and may your efforts be blessed and relatively steady, brother. You've probably looked into supplementing with tongkat ali, fadogia agrestis, ashwaganda, etc., for a level up in your endogenous T production; and I'm sure you value a chronically progressive, sub-VO2-max cardiovascular conditioning logic, and hopefully deep, blissful, appropriately resistance-loaded/-assisted stretching. Also, go balls-to-the-wall with every kind of antiinflammatory supplement/nutrition methodology you can, as this is crucial but subtle - but just very, very _powerfully_ subtle. Bless you, once again, man.

[@lu77xiaojun37]

@@guyhaley "Thickened" your blood too much? Really. How "thick" was it? I'm assuming "they" took a blood thickness measurement in the ER yes? And I'm also assuming when you started TRT "they" took a baseline measurement of how "thick" your blood was before your first TRT dose so "they" could monitor the "thickness" and adjust the TRT dose according. Yes? You know, just like how "they" took a baseline measurement of your testosterone levels before your first TRT dose so "they" could monitor that and adjust the dose. In conjunction with your "blood thickness" levels of course.

[@Shon-z8o]

@@lu77xiaojun37 this man loves his quotes.

[@rico4240]

You don't need to sacrifice quality of life and stop trt. Thickening of the blood is a common side effect. People resolve that issue by donating blood.

[@stalesox]

TRT has changed my life for the better in all facets. I’m nearly 1 year in and take 220mg per week split in 2 doses. I’m still in normal range with total t at 700pg/ml

[@grego4835]

That is why I'll never do hormones. The happy medium is to stay lean, flexible and strong (body weight).

[@machohogan]

47, test level naturally 720. Looking at me I’m 6ft 179lbs, fairly slim, definitely don’t carry much muscle, often quite tired. Got a surgically repaired spine as well. Looked at going on TRT. Best advice I got, eat more fruit and veg.

[@tariqramadan1521]

Wow 720 at 47 is amazing bro i am 32 at 248 look maybe check your endroconologist and get your full vitamin profile maybe low vitamin D its alot complicated like maybe you have too much estrogen too only a good endrocronologist can help

[@coryt2459]

Dude 720 for your age is incredible.

[@dustinbarger1155]

720 @ 47 years old? Liver King, is that you?

[@machohogan]

@@coryt2459you think I should get it done again to check? It was in England, they take your blood, send it off and you get the results back. I was tempted with test as I have back problems, not going to lie, the idea of getting jacked was also appealing. I have a friend who’s a doctor, I had him check the results and he said he knew I wouldn’t need TRT. I’m not built at all, like a Leonardo Dicaprio, David Beckham, Ryan Gosling structure. 6ft and 180 tops. The only sign of no test issues is the bedroom, all good there. Expecting child number 3 at 46. I do seem to impregnate people easily.

[@machohogan]

@@tariqramadan1521 I look and seem healthy but one thing I struggle with is blood sugars. Had tests and I’m not diabetic or hypoglycaemic. As a cyclist I find it very hard to keep blood sugar level and I often bonk (that’s what they call it). I’ve just started taking a vitamin D supplement. Wish I could post pics on here, watched a Huberman video on finger length and test. I have the very long ring finger compared to index finger that “apparently” means you had high exposure to testosterone while in pregnancy. Had spinal fusion a couple of years ago I also have a high red blood cell count. Taking the test and blood cell count I should be a jacked super athlete which I am definitely not!

[@bossman9358]

Feel like we’re not talking about TRT here. Derek speaking about juicing. Totally different subjects

[@DrewPWebos]

After 5 yrs I cold turkey TRT (I wasn't clinically low to start with) bloodwork done 6 weeks after and all levels were great specifically LH and FSH which is very important. Test levels were not as high but normal. Ill get more BW in 12 weeks. After 5 yrs of zero interruptions I feel great and even better not having to worry about added health issues for only a 10% gain. I am not against TRT and it does work but its not for everyone. Measure the "Risk vs Reward"

[@DawgFL]

How do you feel now? I also went cold turkey off TRT after almost two years. and even 6 months later i still felt fine, but coming up to 12 months later i started feeling like absolute sht again.

[@DrewPWebos]

@@DawgFL its 3 month and I feel great. Primarily because of the possible health ramifications that TRT can bring on. Im not opposed to it if your low T but I did it for 5 yrs based on PED reasons. Yes, ive lost muscle mass and my recovery but at least now I feel some DOMS which not before. Energy a bit less and sex drive up n down. All in all glad im off. One less thing to worry about. Again, did it for enhancement and my gains were maybe 10% so my Loss wasnt drastic.

[@ashrodders]

@@DrewPWebos brother i been on for a year i used hcg every 4 moths could i recover my natty test and feel strong off this shit?

[@DrewPWebos]

@@ashrodders everyone is different so its hard to say. Were u Low T to begin with? Taper of Testosterone with HCG? And or you can use HCG as monotherapy to boost T Levels and still have functional FSH and LH. As stated, as I.just got off with no help. I didnt feel bad at all but made sure to be mentally prepared for some muscle loss, energy decline which was not as much considering a 5 year dosing protocol. Good luck! 👊 but yes it can be done less your clinically LOW T you should remain on as part of your treatment.

[@ashrodders]

@@DrewPWebos i never had problems before always been strong for my size so i think my t is fine? thanks for replying bro for real appreciate it ive used hcg and i have clomid on hand whats the likeyhood il be natty do you think ? im gunna do this and hope for the best either way

[@kylemack8864]

trt for the rest of your life I'm in early 40's and i'll pass. Eating and training right goes a long way. Aging is ok.

[@deenphilbey1644]

My test was super low and I’ve been feeling absolutely awful,I’ve decided to go onto TRT and I’m gyming and eating right as well.Its not a silver bullet solution but it does help if you need it

[@mistermcluvin2425]

I have plenty of friends on TRT and they all love it, no real issues either. Some have a slightly odd red look to their skin but nothing else. 2 guys are bald but they always had thin hair before TRT. There was a guy in the gym who was on TRT who had a heart attack but who is to say it was caused by the TRT, maybe he would have had one regardless. A lot of guys have heart attacks that aren't on TRT so you cant assume there is a direct connection.

[@outlander234]

Plus there are levels to this. Some people just take way too much.

[@MrDutchmarshal]

Dude steroids are bad for your heart and bad for your cardiovascular system. It's all proven by sciences a million times. It will take years of your life..

[@outlander234]

@@MrDutchmarshal lol why dont you educate yourself a little before making such statments...

[@eahuso]

Cheers to your vaccinated heart attack friends. You will see a lot more of them in the future.

[@MrDutchmarshal]

@@outlander234 what does that even mean? Everything has a balance, when you add test to your body you're going to have upside and downsides. CardioVascular problems are one of the downsides

[@tonyyoto8820]

Trt for body , micro dosing for the mind, the best combo I have ever tried and carry on today

[@CoachForsyth]

When I was on TRT as a 53 year old man, I caused my RBC to go through the roof, and it gave me a minor heart attack.

[@mattarndt4452]

Yea, you have to donate blood regularly if on TRT. I’m 51 y.o. and been on TRT for 6 years. It’s definitely a personal decision. There are health risks for being sub 300 without TRT too.

[@tadehpetrossian5698]

Their is no safe drug. Every drug has a side effect. You need to determine weigh the good and the bad. If the positive weighs out the bad then do it.

[@alexl.4362]

Good point

[@truebro77]

Listening to Derek is just so so refreshing

[@R5OZ]

Wheres the bit about boosting test? wrong title

[@ChrisWillx]

The wrong clip title was used! 🤦🏻‍♂️ Apologies. The natural Testosterone boost clip is coming soon too.

[@dopamine-87]

There's multiple Doctors online saying TRT is 100% safe when used only when needed... Then there's MPMD who sais it has risks? Where are the studies saying TRT has risks, i can't find one?

[@dawnmarie5872]

I guarantee the mass majority here if given a large amount of money their problems go away without TRT. Much is lifestyle, reducing stress. With money all the energy in the world to travel, buy cars, homes etc. In a down situation we tend toward drugs. No absolute here but majority.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@AI-ml1sl Duh, poor lifestyle can affect test production. Next time think maybe????

[@Jorge.A.12]

You think rich people don't do drugs? If anything they do more drugs than the average person

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@Jorge.A.12 Often miss the point. Point was changing lifestyle/reducing stress before moving on to a drug Einstein. The uneducated run social media, congrats.

[@Jorge.A.12]

​@@dawnmarie5872 I understand your comment now, i got confused. Its still a dumb fucking comment. "if given a large amount of money their problems go away without TRT." If you need TRT, money wont fix the issue, and your problems wont go away einstein, money doesnt regulate hormones, if anything you will exacerbate it because excessive money can give you a worse lifestyle, you will go out to party, drink, go out to restaurants all day, do recreational drugs, etc. money wont make you want to workout and eat healthy. Testosterone in TRT doses is not a drug to get a high and feel good, its stimulating you to do better by making your body optimal, change lifestyle/reduce stress.

[@dawnmarie5872]

@@Jorge.A.12 Think as you wish, its your right. However, come on here. What in the hell do you think it's "stimulating" means? Your words not mine. Not all drugs are used to get high and stimulating is a simple form of increased body/brain function. You are only fooling yourself here. Been on both sides with much experience on the topic. No matter what I wish you the best.

[@Jon-kg6hm]

200mg test/week, 500 IU hCG/week, 10mg dhea/daily, and 10mg pregnenolone/daily. Just started my TRT stack this week after knowing about my low test for 2 years. Nothings going to get better if you don't do anything about it

[@MM-lt2lv]

I am 40 and had testosterone level of 320. I started trt approximately 6 months ago and my t level is currently 940. I feel great. Workouts are better and even sleeping better. However, recently I have been getting body acne (mostly on my chest) going to see a dermotologist tomorrow and hopefully this is just a temporary symptom to deal with.

[@dustinbarger1155]

Pretty sure 320 is normal for a 40 year old male lol. 940, youre not far off from being on cycle. Some people consider 1200ish to be on cycle. Not being negative, a friend of mine is on TRT and does powerlifting. Hes prescribed 340mg a week and his test level the last time i hear was 1009.

[@MM-lt2lv]

Thanks for the info. I am currently on 180mg weekly. And I agree with you on 940 being on the high end. Just trying to find a middle ground because I didn't like my energy levels and libido levels before.

[@dustinbarger1155]

@@MM-lt2lv If youre at 940 and only taking 180mg your body reacts well. Id say you probably dont take an anti-estrogen? My friend on 340mg week has to take an estrogen blocker. When his doctor had him on 300mg a week. His levels were 750. So just 40mg jumped him up pretty high. Family doctors wont prescribe you more than 175-200mg a week max. The normal Test level range for an 18-19yo kid is like 600-700. So youre just a little above that.

[@MM-lt2lv]

Correct, no blocker. Might go back down to 140mg per week,(where I originally started) to see if acne clears. Luckily it's not severe. But it is noticeable with my shirt off. Trt is the real deal for someone who might work crazy hours and would like to have more energy with family and time well spent with their significant other.

[@barrywilliams4866]

@@MM-lt2lv 140mg is pretty much spot on for TRT, 180mg and over is bordering cycle dosage, splitting dose might help, say 70mg twice weekly..

[@Majnun74]

My buddy got me TRT (injection). He said it worked wonders for him, but I’m afraid of side effects… Losing hair etc.

[@bigbobbacharcoal]

Got on trt fixed my depression but changed my view on the world because I realized how much I'm actually missing

[@PowersBenzoCoaching]

What do you mean?

[@Micolashcage1]

I can relate to this

[@Risingabovechaos]

I had low T recorded at 271. I found this guide that you guys might find useful. Following this I am now at 586. No TRT. This provides the real truth about testosterone. Its called complete guide to testosterone by james francis

[@georgiafan6618]

My test was below 200. I began a light jogging routine for cardio (1 mile/day) w/gym workout. Wasn’t on TRT, no alcohol, no garbage foods and fasting. I raised my test to 400+ and felt better. I got wood in the morning - never does that when I’m on TRT.

[@tvathome562]

So being a skinny lazy pot eater is a recipe to not stress my metabolism, im going to live forever... Or at least it seems that way waiting for Uber Eats..

[@bigtuss7482]

I try to train at least an hour of cardio at least 5 days a week , alongside boxing training , just started to try and get my diet in check

[@WhatTheFragrance]

This didn’t talk about how to boost test, this talked about dangers of try use. Misleading title

[@ChrisWillx]

The wrong clip title was used! 🤦🏻‍♂️ Apologies. The natural Testosterone boost clip is coming soon too.

[@stunnaman9]

Same with his other video saying how many drugs was liver king on

[@jamescross646]

Longevity with quality is the goal

[@Teramydog]

After that "age" we all hit eventually - TRT is a God send. I'm 67 and going like a young man.

[@michaelscott5653]

But your 67. You need trt at that age to feel well

[@willlamme1988]

I'm 35 in avg shape, I went in because I had headaches for 6 months straight. My blood test said my levels were 17... My insurance wouldnt pay for TRT because it was stated I was too young. I started working out, I havnt missed a day of working and I feel a little better and move a littler easier, but I'm miserable and I'm certain TRT would help if I could get it. I just keep working out hoping things might get better. Levels havnt improved unfortunately, and I do feel like crap all the time.

[@nickcunningham6840]

I do 1ml of sustanon per month split into a quarter ml per week for the past 4 years and it's working great for me at the moment. Any advice would be much appreciated. Age 47.

[@JohnDoe-zz3hj]

TRT kills,,, retired olympic strength coach, low T is a health problem that comes with old age or other problems and the answer is not slamming drugs that high blood pressures , blood sugar on and on

[@ripmando9578]

I’m vegan i do not eat processed food 42 yrs old TRT has helped me recover from military injuries i would not have been able to get through rehab without it.

[@gugy68]

That’s too bad Sinclair is being exposed. I always enjoyed his content but again, greed is a powerful drug.

[@twoheartshomesforseniors]

I thought he just wanted everyone to live a longer life lol...

[@williamblankenship6501]

I'm In the opinion that being big shortens life. With being said, testosterone is well tolerated. A response dose can improve the quality of life. You are right Derek. I'm on 160mg a week and my serum concentration is 934

[@michaellevin92]

Got a question: if a person's obese and he/she wants to get healthy, what's the best route: 1) just losing fat or 2) lose fat and increase muscle (like bodybuilding or other sport)? Would just lose fat (diet and/or lifestyle) increase more longevity than lose fat and increase muscle (e.g. "transformation")?

[@mynameisviktorreznov]

If a person is obese…then anything they do to get them to lose weight is going to be very beneficial. Obviously weight training while losing weight is going to help retain muscle which is will help in keeping the fat off. So A combo of light cardio and weights is a solid plan. Best of luck

[@gdouglass10]

Long term adherence is the key. Statistically most diets fail so start off with something easy to stick to i.e. keep the same diet but reduce portion size & go for a 10-30 min walk 3 times per week. From a good starting point you can build, eating more fruits & veg, increase protein intake, add weight training. Do not be too restrictive with your lifestyle to the point of missing eating out with friends, birthdays, holidays etc . If you fall off the wagon and gain a few pounds its not the end of the world and certainly not a failure, go back to the basics of portion control. Good luck.

[@blackbuck4real]

Both. Loose fat and gain muscle. It's "easier" to loose/burn fat than muscle especially over time since the body adapts to muscle growth and stimulus' like weightlifting. Except for a beginning weightlifter. But either fat loss or muscle gain is goin to help longevity. But both are goin to help more. The best plan of action is to loose fat by "eating correctly " (don't even consider it "dieting". Eating a Mediterranean focused diet which is high protein & high healthy fats focused, Then loose more fat by moving more(fidgeting literally burns calories) burning calories =fat loss as long as your calorie intake is proper. 2,000 per day is fine once 1 gets active. Also introducing fasting protocols like intermittent fasting will not only help but help extremely well burn fat off. Get to walking, swimming, battle ropes, rock throws, medicine ball slams, all for sets and reps to jack the heart rate up and don't even think about running until down to a relatable size to run! It's all a process and takes time. Just focus on doing small things at 1st that move 1 into the correct direction until 1 can do more. Then you can do even more because you'll be able to. You'll get better at eating cleaner and moving more. Those small victories add up to the big victories! Clean eating = cooking basically. Getting away from "instant" foods, microwave meals and anything processed. Treat the worst of foods like BAD DRUGS . If a person can't fully throw them out of the diet, then moderate them to the least possible. And change up your daily habits that put you face to face with those terrible foods. Don't buy them and DONT stock them so that if 1 can't fight the craving, 1 MUST WALK to the store and PHYSICALLY pick them up! Make it almost excruciating to obtain or divulge in anything unhealthy. And work for it if you must. Sugar and bad processed foods ARE 100% LIKE DRUGS and our bodies WILL WITHDRAW FROM & CRAVE THEM! But thankfully the withdrawal is literally weak compared to actual drugs and it's more of a thought interference. Follow Andrew hubberman, Joe Rogan, David goggins, Dr. Berg, Athlean X, to name a few and dive down their rabbit holes of info and avoid "fitness influencers" that aren't cemented in truth learning to spot everyone's angles along the way. Good luck to you or whomever you intend to help!

[@bradleygehman3976]

I wouldn’t get too hung up on which is more optimal. If you are overweight then you could benefit greatly by eating appropriately portioned Whole Foods and regular exercise of any kind. Both is better than one, but one is better than none!

[@rally_chronicles]

Do both and eat healthy. It's simple. Don't be lazy

[@Asiansxsymbol]

I'm a healthy man and 100% natural gymmer who has never been on TRT or PEDs. Am I a good candidate for TRT? Honest question.

[@Josh00]

Whether it’s muscle or fat the heart doesn’t know the difference. - Rich Piana

[@krane15]

Where is he now?

[@abdelrahmanhanafy1471]

@@krane15 wtf bro💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@kristopherclark-berroth4386]

40 years old and had back to back t tests come in below 200. Now in my second week of TRT. So far no noticeable changes.

[@abroberg1]

Took me a few weeks to feel anything, I was about 190's and started when I was about 40 too. I was likely that low for years before that. I'm 52 now and still on it, only taking 40 mg every 4th day. I am stronger now than when I was in excellent shape when I was in my 20's and sexual function is also better believe it or not. Testicular shrinkage the only notable side effect and I'm sure spermatogenesis likely down to nothing, doesn't bother me compared to the benefits gained. Keep getting ur labs checked and you may need a higher dose.

[@jonathondavis170]

I had 68 on my testosterone blood test, and still hoping as I come off these opiates and other drugs that it will naturally come back...I've been coming off since 2018 slowly, and I'm a medically retired/disabled veteran so I have full access to TRT if they do not return by end of Summer. But I surely don't want to be on a few other medications that I must take FOR LIFE! 12 more weeks of this withdrawal and detoxing, and I can start seeing the results I need to make a good choice in a few months... I have added muscle and lost 100lbs over the past few years, and starting to look like athletic self, but the mental fortitude it has taken to get there from no testosterone, TBI, brain trauma induced type II Narcolepsy, and just general lack of energy has been the most arduous journey! Thankfully dirt bikes/off-road motorcycling has given me something fun and physical to help me mentally! May we all find what we're looking for on our health journey!

[@tonybjr7904]

8-6 weeks. To start seeing a difference

[@tonybjr7904]

Feeling

[@jcoxy1057]

@@jonathondavis170 wish you nothing but the best!

[@Ontime2day]

More plates more dates needs to change his brand to More Research, Less side effects and better results.

[@Gunship888]

After a few cycles in my 20s, my test levels were insanely low: 12. The doctor thought it was a mistake and redid the test to see: 8. After this I was put on trt and hover around 8-900 and feel invincible. Been about 6 years now, only thing that’s gone up is cholesterol due to eating like sht. Other than that, red blood cell count and literally every single other blood count looks great and within normal ranges. Psa around 1.2 etc. 34 y.o., I do take anastrozole every day due to gyno symptoms if I take 1mg eod (or .5 ed) so I just take 1 a day, 0 symptoms. I also add muscle easier than I used to without running anything extra, so it’s better than normal for sure, plus with a constant stream of it, never catabolizing muscle. We’ll see how I’m kickin in 15yr but will we even be around in 15yr, I’d rather live my best life now than worry about hitting 100 years old 😅

[@CommandoMaster]

Tongkat Ali boosts Test levels.

[@tariqramadan1521]

Maybe by 50 ng/dl but if u are low its done

[@MrKyle12386]

I had life long depression and attempted twice. Couldnt figure the cause. Went on trt and went away. Now im worried about my brain. I take 225 test a week that puts me at 900 test

[@quocd5580]

I"ll save TRT for my upper 50"s, early 60"s. I lift heavy once a wk and 5k jog once a wk in my 40"s. Ldl in the 80"s, hdl barely above 40"s, hemoglobin a1c 5.8 ish, testosterone 507; all thanks to Derick"s early videos of watching wat u eat to stay lean as phuck and forcing me to learn medical terminology

[@Corkfish1]

I'm 63 and my testosterone is 620. I can't lift what I used to but I'm not going to play around with my endocrine system.

[@quocd5580]

@@Corkfish1 Yes, I agree you can have high testosterone in any age. Derick stated that Testosterone is just a measurement but not a true determination of muscle size. You can have high testosterone and low androgen receptors: example, skinny guy w/ high testosterone but lack of muscles. Another example, small muscular man with low to medium Testosterone levels and high androgen receptors. These are examples and there are many combinations. Best of both worlds is to have high testosterone and high androgen receptors.

[@rally_chronicles]

@quocd5580 then build your androgen receptors in your neck/traps and upper chest. Once I started doing that I started getting more muscle everywhere.

[@quocd5580]

@@rally_chronicles Bench pressing 340 lbs and weighing at 190 lbs @ age 41. Got plenty of andro receptors despite the 500 ng/dl of testosterone. Plenty of combinations out there, dont rely too much on testosterone results.

[@Buleye]

Started TRT at 45. 8 years in and I’m at my peak in most every way. I knew the risk but figured why sacrifice my years from 45 to 60 because I’m worried about what might happen from 75 to 80?

[@Ermz]

Tongkat, Fadogia & Ashwagandha is likely what Derek brings up in the correct clip.

[@IdontspeakBro.]

Just live your life. If you want to live long then you can’t live hard. If you want to live hard then you won’t live long. Don’t fear death and whatever choice you make is the right choice.

[@rickx86]

I think for people that pursue TRT for the right reasons it is not about just bulking up in the gym it is about living an overall happy life. People are getting prescribed antidepressants which are far worse to take when all of their quality of life issues might be solved with a higher number of T. Fixing someone’s issues by fixing their hormones is far far better than trying to mask it with a drug the body doesn’t normally make.

[@superdeluxesmell]

What? Where did he talk about boosting testosterone levels naturally??

[@ChrisWillx]

The wrong clip title was used! 🤦🏻‍♂️ Apologies. The natural Testosterone boost clip is coming soon too.

[@superdeluxesmell]

@@ChrisWillx Brilliant. Thanks Chris!

[@Dnserror88]

27 years old, eating healthy and lifting weights 4x a week. Just got my results, 242 total T, 5.7 free T. Loads of symptoms... No energy/motivation, dead libido, ED, insecure, anxiety. Currently discussing TRT with my doctor.

[@mattr918]

I was low at 27 also. My highest level was 214. I just had low energy levels. Couldn't gain any more muscle or get any stronger. I've been on 3 or 4 years now and I feel awesome. I do have to donate blood frequently though

[@austinmorris3422]

Any update on how TRT is helping?

[@cjspaul9900]

hematocrit is a problem and not something to ignore regardless of trt benefits