Moeletsi Mbeki’s rallying cry for business to become active in politics to save SA

Political analyst and Chairperson of the South African Institute of International Affairs (SAIIA), Moeletsi Mbeki says it’s evident from high unemployment, collapsing infrastructure, a deteriorating healthcare system and ailing security apparatus that the ANC government is not coping with its responsibilities and that the global status of South Africa has declined enormously. In an interview with BizNews, he also criticised the negative impact of black economic empowerment on the economy and on social cohesion. Change would be possible through the 2024 elections, he said, by a coalition of opposition parties. Mbeki called for the private sector to play an active role in politics, urging individual business leaders to intervene rather than simply advising the government. However, he dismissed the notion of a messiah-like figure driving this process. - Linda van Tilburg
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Timestamps
00:00 - Introductions
00:49 - On current state of SA
02:49 - On SA's global perception
04:11 - On BRICS and Russia
05:09 - On 2024 elections
06:32 - On ANC opposition leadership
07:33 - On Roelf Meyer, BEE and 1994 mistakes
09:16 - On ANC double down on BEE, similar policy
10:51 - On private sector in politics
15:49 - On future of ANC and SA's democracy
20:11 - On Mbeki family

[@lindylambis4828]

Wise man. Well said Mr Mbeki.

[@Morne_Smith]

Note: WE NEED COMPETANT, ACCOUNTABLE leaders....who cares what colour they are...

[@belinda-janekent-brown4494]

So enjoyed Mr Moeletsi Mbeki's interview. Sadly he is an academic not a politician. He is so wise. Thank you both.

[@JLW143]

Over the past 100+ years business wasn't treated well here by politicians, smaller businesses struggles. The ANC is just carrying on with that, together with too powerful unions.

[@antonynyathi7046]

The problem with Moeletsi is that he is well schooled, not well educated, so are many other academics. This is the reason why their wisdom cannot help in solving South African problems!

[@petramyburgh506]

Mr Mbeki, you spoke about this years ago and you were right once again Thank you.

[@monicakieck7501]

Economy can grow when the ANC abort the 165 race laws and stop BEE and affirmative action.

[@caesar3909]

Ma'am the economy won't grow with the ANC, finish & klaar.

[@SpencerCourtis]

...when they implode. implode they wii

[@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb]

As long as liberal woke whites abound nothing will change, Cape Town white woke liberal fembots part and parcel of the problem.

[@frikrabie5371]

Abort the ANC - control our own taxes - that will make the economy grow!

[@ScissorN]

Basically white business are blocking growth because they dont want to share power with blacks

[@madeleinedonaldson4422]

We actually are a Republic Remove politicians and allow each Community to Govern its own affairs.Mbeki always speaks common sense

[@markwinter7511]

😂 I happened to see a group of SANDF soldiers at a pitstop on the N3 today and they looked all of forty something together with their protruding tummies. I would hate to see them in combat

[@tsv8664]

Why is the voice of this man not resonating within ANC circles? They rather listen to the octogenarian brother of this Mbeki! I still remember with distastefulness the "two nations" speech of Thabo.

[@rgee]

Because the ANC knows best.

[@bertramhall6131]

We may have a so called democracy, but we don’t have mature minded voters and we have a ridiculous bunch of so called politicians. What a recipe for chaos.

[@BelieveInMiracles888]

We need to do away with the multi party system - the problem we have is that the ruling party appoints the president … the ruling party has to much power and no accountability.

[@mikeb8682]

words are important. they are not a 'ruling' party. they are not kings and we are not subjects. they are a governing party. they call them selves ruling for a reason.

[@loistoy3403]

They do absolutely nothing all the multi parties, it is the best way to go with no more multi parties in the government. Independant government is the best way to go.

[@BelieveInMiracles888]

@@mikeb8682 I like your insight on this .. I have never thought of the choice of words and the psychology behind them

[@sasvanwyk5886]

His wise words spoken in silent corners wouldn’t teach the masses in filled stadiums “taught” by politicians hunting for power.

[@mandelaali5194]

This guy always is spot on

[@Gawieseplaas]

Well said Moeletsi.

[@rgee]

In all honesty, I am not against Maimane, as the leader of BOSA, becoming the president of the country. He has close enough values to the DA and many of their other alliance partners that a compromise could be worked out so that he leads the state.

[@5801160052086]

Let the ANC fix their own mess, they were so keen to get into power, so let them man up and fix their mess!!

[@nataliemartin1232]

Sorry, ANC doesn't construct things, they do the opposite... they deconstruct things.

[@olivialagrange6614]

Always love listening to this man

[@omphilwemoja3813]

Mr Moeletsi Mbeki, give this man a bells.

[@BelieveInMiracles888]

Ramaphosa the 15th most wealthiest person in ZA with a networth of 450 Million USD and His brother-in-law Patrice Motsepe the 4th wealthiest person in ZA and both business owners…. do we really want them to stay active or be active in ZA politics 😮

[@sidneymullins2218]

😢

[@HansCoche]

What did the ANC do that was not a mistake? It would be a very short list if there was any content at all.

[@goforgold7082]

Moeletsi should have been the President. I have always respected his views. But guess who SA got instead. And the result are there for all to see. And Im not talking about Cyril or Thabo

[@mondlishabalala903]

ANC has become Our liability 😮😅😅😅

[@xenswim1]

The problem with this interview is that Mr Mbeki is not widely reported on black language radio or press. The rural black is reliant on the the AN C so water and electricity are not issues for them. What has to be hammered home is the failure to fulfil promises.

[@peetsnort]

Is he thabos brother?

[@BOBBY-et9xb]

Yes

[@peetsnort]

@@BOBBY-et9xb useless man. I get so angry how they wasted such a fantastic opportunity for the country. Corrupt politicians are the bane of the world. We have Tony Blair and just too many to mention. Not to mention Biden

[@lynettesmith2836]

Moeletsi Mbeki would make the ideal President of South Africa.

[@nathanragovan6329]

Reading HFO's biography... can't put it down... a great history lesson and filled with proof points that business is perhaps the biggest driver for social, political and economic change... we need more HFOs and Ruperts, true industrial capitalists with vast value creation for the nation while helping themselves... the way it should be

[@cosmicfxx]

Politics will divide more just like it has overseas. mBusiness should become more active in uplifting the poor and unemployed ... NOT based on on politics, religion, race, gender etc

[@Michael-hm8cs]

business should stick to business and let charities etc see to social issues...otherwise we get all this esg nonsense (which Woolies has already succumbed to)

[@mrmaths330]

That's true I support this issues from him that we need new friends to change our country

[@charmainefrancis7953]

❤

[@maseratifittipaldi]

With all due respect, I think Moeletsi has got it the wrong way around. Politics should become less active in business.

[@Michael-hm8cs]

precisely!

[@meganreardon-bester1987]

Sensible Commentary from Mr Bheki😊

[@JabsMajozi]

Linda van Tilburg presented her questions from a position of misinformation. How does she think the BEE policy was the settlement that was reached through CODESA? She also seems to think the Constitution was legislated for economic empowerment ONLY, supported by ANC supporters only..... 9:14 She makes it worse by not receiving the correction from Mbeki, but continues that line of questioning.This was disturbing to follow.

[@ladybird7269]

Great analysis. I wrote on another platform that all infrastructure and public enterprises should be privatized. Government should only be responsible for healthcare, education, social welfare and services delivery.

[@mogopodiphiri6286]

& owned by who? I'd only concur with you if I was only focused on both good quality operations and services besides on ownership. Ownership comes with power and control on the daily operations and services. It can be worse to impose exclusion and collide with other people/cooperates(local/global). Thus knowing what the global operations do in collision with others~ neoliberal colonisation, using "third world/developing countries financial aid instruments". Looking beyond what your daily needs

[@joeferreira657]

Mafia tells ANC what to do. Rotten to the core.

[@thembamoko8810]

27/04/1994 For 30 Years SOEs Have Been Contracted , Crumbled , Collapsed , Outsourced , Privatized And Public Private Partnership ( PPP ) Under ANC Government Till Present. NB : Not Yet Uhuru.

[@ScissorN]

Again do away with all this small pikinini parties why not have 5 best performing parties

[@mthulisidube5502]

I like your interviewing style my lady, just extend the reach of your interviewees to touch differing view points!

[@mondlishabalala903]

ANC will disappear One day 😂😂😂

[@gerhardbotha7336]

As long as I have to complete BEE scorecards, I will only do business with the man in the street. Corporations and their “sophisticated “ executives can go FTS…

[@xenswim1]

All that needs to be done is that big business dig in their heels and say no. Government will quickly understand that they cannot be supplied by their own.

[@joesoap1765]

ANC will never go away. It’s another ZANU

[@goodbarbenie5477]

Disinvest is the next best options as far as business is concerned. Pay no more taxes. To enter the frow of South African politics, U at a serious gamble which will destroy the very core fibre of your business and life. Let's face it, Politics is not Rocket Science...

[@johnkelly3886]

We all know/fear who the next president will be: Julius. We need to end private funding of politics. We need to build into proportional representation, a mechanism to prevent dictatorship by small, often extremist parties. End the oligarchy and kleptocracy. After Cyril do we need another businessman, another oligarch. We need to reform BEE and affirmative action. We need a new mass movement to force reform on our political system. Moeletsi Mbeki does not seem to understand the limitations of privatisation.

[@carlosdesousa6712]

Now that the national coffers have been sacked, now business must get involved so that the coffers can get refilled?

[@kennethward2537]

Minister of earthquake and a minister of potholes......🤣🤣🤣

[@markkaalvoet]

Industry and ANC stand shoulder to shoulder at the feeding trough

[@jackmlindi4384]

That's s very incorrect statement about our armed forces pls check your facts!

[@livistoncube7732]

Stop your ego massage. Talking about opposition parties and deliberately not mentioning the EFF. What if EFF decides to go with ANC

[@peetsnort]

I remember thabo talking for 35 minutes and not actually saying anything.

[@FinancialConsultdotcodotza]

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[@Michael-hm8cs]

Mussolini said the same thing

[@Hannodb1961]

Moeletsi Mbeki is the best President we never had.

[@thamizama5904]

Moeletsi is just like Steenhuisen and the DA, fierce critics of a BEE policy, while offering no alternatives. The BEE policy was well meaning, the problem is the misapplication of BEE. I have yet to hear what Moeletsi is proposing as an alternative to BEE policy, he just keeps quite in this regard. To me Moeletsi is just pandering to the whims of big business and big corporates who asserts that government must have no role in coming with policies whose intention is to positively enhance the socio-economic conditions of all citizens.

[@MA-ld7du]

Why bother with this chap? What analytical contribution has he ever made that is of any interest to SA, except stating the obvious? Aaand being the brother of a failed SA president of only some? And most of you at Bis-channel are very good interviewers.

[@user295295]

He trash talks the ANC. He must be some sort of racist.

[@RG-jr8ym]

lol...as Zuma stated "he doesn't like clever blacks"

[@leonnefourie1857]

Youre not very bright are you?