I take it you had good luck but as a plumber I recommend to never mess with the integral stops on the shower valve to turn the water off. Just shut off the main or at the street if you have access. Those Moen integral stops are notorious for the oring seal inside the stops to start dripping/leaking because they never get exercised(turned on/off) over time and the rubber seal gets brittle and rips. Just my experience with these but glad you had no issues with that. Just a tip to save you some headache for the next round
@GoShwkk11 ай бұрын
What do u do if the cartridge thingy is completely stuck inside it dose not move at all The only way I was able to shut off the water was to burn the plastic piece with a torch so I can turn the knob to off but the thing won’t come out 🥲 it’s been 4 days and tbh I’m starting to smell
@p09809809810 ай бұрын
@goshwk5848 Did you manage to get it out ?
@CashvilleUnderground9 ай бұрын
@@GoShwkkreplace the entire shower mixing valve you dunce
@rocketrider14059 ай бұрын
I found when replacing my Riobel cartridge that the shutoff stops were a soft brass and just turning them made me nervous.
@lalocam808 ай бұрын
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@jasminelindros8923 Жыл бұрын
Being clumsy, the first thing I do is tape over the drain so I don't lose any of those little screws.
@Tonytone-bv8eq28 күн бұрын
Gotta love when the client has soft water. They typically come out without a fuss. Without a softener this routine repair would have taken some improvising and ingenuity to successfully complete the repair. This is a big reason why pros dislike moen however, the design of the original posi-temp valve and cartridge has not changed since it's development. That sells itself. Virtually no other manufacturer can say that. Love, your 21yr vetted plumber ❤
@cdarkes84Ай бұрын
I replaced mine, same Model and now it makes a loud humming sound when the water runs. No leaking.
@jackanghoff832010 ай бұрын
I spent a month doing these before realizing you needed lubricant. I had to grip the hole with vice pliers so hard the brass got bent one time.
@smashninja227 ай бұрын
Will wd-40 be good enough?
@myownstyleso.49872 ай бұрын
Just want to say ty, it wasn't this easy but this video still helped a lot.
@prayforthe_1644 Жыл бұрын
If u call Moen & tell them u are the original owner they will send u one free $aving $55
@narlycharley Жыл бұрын
Usually they don’t even care that you’re the original owner.
@iliagoro313611 ай бұрын
Use 1 1/4 brush to clean out the inner shower valve after removing the cartridge. Otherwise you'll scratch the gaskets on the new cartridge and it'll leak in a day or two
@chiliconholly10 ай бұрын
What if you can't get the pin back in?
@koltonknighton14023 ай бұрын
Nothing when it comes to plumbing is ever this easy. Just an FYI. 😂
@jcmgwhct23336 ай бұрын
Thank you compadre!👍
@obedvalladares1276 ай бұрын
Thank you so much the tips helped me a lot !!!
@JoseRuiz1348 Жыл бұрын
When you reinstalled what do you mean by putting treatment?
@terrylunsford5085 Жыл бұрын
grease
@vegetablepolice13 ай бұрын
1 valve showers have those to set hot and cold temp and pressure
@chalinp48868 ай бұрын
My water keeps running even when I close it will this repair the problem. Edit thanks I fix it with this clip no more leak
@SteveAdlard4 ай бұрын
Stuff a rag in the wall so clip won’t disappear when you drop it,like I’ve done
@plomeria-hp6 ай бұрын
Real , i 've been on that hook before, thanks.
@gabrieltorres1126 Жыл бұрын
My plumber use the wrong mixers, handle doesn’t fit. Can I swap that center piece for the right one? Both are Moen
@vincemoreno79324 ай бұрын
What treatment did you put on?
@kennydabossyo61983 ай бұрын
A certain type of grease. It helps sliding it in and prevents hard removal next time and when showering the handle gets extra smooth....all because of the grease
@kennydabossyo61983 ай бұрын
Also, helps not mess up those o rings and rubber seals
@michaelpagnotta91012 ай бұрын
Does Moen supply the allen wrench? If not what size do you recommend? TIA
@byindani8 ай бұрын
What size Allen key? I have like 50 of them and they’re either too big or too small.
@dominiquewilliams62437 ай бұрын
Same thing with me it's not metric so it's got to be English
@byindani7 ай бұрын
@@dominiquewilliams6243 gotta hammer in the T15 and twist!
@byindani7 ай бұрын
Twist and hammer hard unless you’re willing to drill out the bolt, and spend an extra 165 replacing the handle.
@tonygucciano68758 ай бұрын
how do u tell what brand is in your house? I dont see any badging at all
@Fengshawn865 ай бұрын
What can we do if the old cartridge is not pulling out? Pin is out and cartridge won’t budge. Won’t even turn 45° like the instructions say.
@JAMESPTOOLE5 ай бұрын
They make a pulling tool.
@Fengshawn865 ай бұрын
I did get the tool, it was still so stuck I had my foot up on the wall and was using all of my body and twisting. Thought I was gonna break a pipe. The rubber was coming lose and I was fighting and ripping at the rubber until it came all the way out… it was rough.
@dirtyjimmydonitdirtymob84535 ай бұрын
Mine looks like that but how do I know if it’s that one
@josephlinares963 ай бұрын
What treatment?
@mycaddigo10 ай бұрын
Lesson is, buy a delta valve instead …
@mirelurkhomevideos7 ай бұрын
have fun when the bonnet nut gets stuck and you have to rip the whole value out
@MichelleAv-oq7jp5 ай бұрын
What if you have 22 years of corrosion on and it wont come out
@ryantracey8574 Жыл бұрын
I just did this but my off is when the handle is up and I only get hot water in the 5 o'clock position, I've double checked and my "HC" is on the top, and my handl moves and stops on the right places, the old one was too dirty and I didnt pay attention, I'm thinking my copper housing/pipes must be ran wrong so I'm gonna try and flip the cartridge upside down unless someone knows something I don't
@DaveDocDIY Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen that happen. Does there happen to be another tub or shower on the other side of the wall? I’ve seen guys tee the pipe and go right over. 😑
@ryantracey8574 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveDocDIY no but there is one directly above it
@xBuLLeTx1919 Жыл бұрын
Then remove the handle and black plastic piece and turn the black and handle facing down
@_RYEN_ Жыл бұрын
I’ve changed hundreds of these in apartment complexes seem like they are made to last a year or two
@HarminderSingh-jc7rf Жыл бұрын
What you charge for that
@HateDietPepsi Жыл бұрын
I need to replace mine about every 5 years within my house. Doesn't matter whether it is heavily used shower or not.
@_RYEN_ Жыл бұрын
@@HarminderSingh-jc7rf it really depends if I’m supplying the part or not. If they have all the parts and I’m just doing the labor and it’s a pretty easy removal, I’ll charge about 100 125 bucks.. I typically try to make about 100 bucks an hour. If I’m doing is that and I’m going over there specifically for that if nothing else I’ll probably charge 150. 200 bucks with parts.
@_RYEN_ Жыл бұрын
@@HateDietPepsi no it doesn’t because water is still behind the vaule. You should get a lot longer use out of one if you don’t use the shower as much, of course, but they still will go bad, especially if they’re just sitting there, not being used kind of a double edge sword.
@Inmate533 Жыл бұрын
That's some filthy water you got there son. Mine last about 8 years and I have high levels of iron and manganese, which are the worst for clogging these things up.
@kenestra12311 ай бұрын
Why dont you go a little faster so you can really piss people off! LOL!
@studmuffin2330 Жыл бұрын
My cold water barely trickles but hot comes out fine. I replaced the cartridge. Any ideas?
@Ricky-tl8bz Жыл бұрын
Check your water shutoff valves. Make sure the cold is open all the way.
@studmuffin2330 Жыл бұрын
@@Ricky-tl8bz I didn’t know a shut off valve but I will double check. Thank you
@Ricky-tl8bz Жыл бұрын
@@studmuffin2330 Yeah, my house has individual shit off valves in the basement for each sink, bathtub, toilet. This is so I don’t have to shut off the water to the house. Just for what I need to work on.
@rockyravine1155 Жыл бұрын
you most likely have a valve like this video with water stops left and right of the cartridge. Take the cold stop out and run the water quickly and back off. Most likely this will flush out around the stops and you'll be good.
@PISSDIVV Жыл бұрын
How much did you charge them?
@monsterp.g.1741 Жыл бұрын
$299
@dongoldo88 Жыл бұрын
Lucky that stem didn’t break he would of been pissed !
@stinner444 ай бұрын
I see nobody cleans the inside to remove hard water deposits
@Chosenfew_01296 ай бұрын
I broke the screw
@JUDGEME51502 ай бұрын
HOW DO U KNOW ITS THE 22….!!! Be clear in your vids!!!
@ricksanchez6411 Жыл бұрын
No caulking
@DaveDocDIY Жыл бұрын
No need. Face plate seal fully covers the valve opening.
@keithmccormack62486 ай бұрын
Too back it’s not actually this simple.
@debrahm9199Ай бұрын
Slow your speaking down!
@DaveDocDIYАй бұрын
It’s had to fit all of the steps into a 1 min video. I wish shorts could bet 1:30.
@squirtmann17 Жыл бұрын
why tf this video so fast
@daddysullivan87 Жыл бұрын
Step one cuss who originally put the cartridge in without grease, fight it for 30 minutes, install new cartridge WITH grease 👍
@NFTMule6 ай бұрын
I just did this. I also had the pleasure of breaking it in half while stuck inside the body.
@lvond5555 ай бұрын
@@NFTMule what do you do to get the stuck one out?
@spandexlover96Ай бұрын
Just replaced mine without grease. Good luck to the next guy!
@jeffreymcclelland5414Ай бұрын
YES
@daddysullivan87Ай бұрын
@@lvond555 drill it out probably
@bwlong4 ай бұрын
Good video. I just replaced mine today. Easy and works so well. Didn’t realize the old carriage was so tight and old. New moen replacement turns with a pinky finger. I just turned my main water off in the garage. Other than that idiot proof. Thanks
@DaveDocDIY4 ай бұрын
This is great to hear!! Love it!
@Chris_dolmeth Жыл бұрын
Lol that clip tho… don’t drop it behind the wall or you better hope you keep extras on your van lol
@chopboxstudios5420Ай бұрын
As someone who's learning every about old houses, this helped a Tom! I've always been crafty but just recently moved into a house from 1920 and it's VERY old so now I'm slowly becoming a plumber 😂
@danwenner1906 Жыл бұрын
How come u tubers have the easy units? Mine was biotch to get out. Those side seals peeled back as I pulled the unit out..
@dweez4703 Жыл бұрын
Mine broke in half while pulling it out
@Bigbopperairguns11 ай бұрын
Do not use pliers you will break it if it's been in there over 30 years use the tool that screws inside the Cartridge I love how they make it look so easy you could pull it out with pliers so you could just completely screw up your
@jinghuidong1121Ай бұрын
You save my life
@markfischer2 Жыл бұрын
What do you do if it doesn't have that pin?? I have that sleeve but it doesn't move.
@MikeColburn6 ай бұрын
I fought to get the pin in. What was going on? Why was it so difficult?
@JosephTMyers9 күн бұрын
what is the "treatment" you say you put on it before putting it back into the wall?
@Tacocat12326 күн бұрын
Can’t get that stupid cartridge out. Terrible design!
@Justin232g6 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks this video saved me going through a crisis not knowing this was a replaceable part.
@Zepherus147 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this video! Really saved my bacon!
@matthewgaul8197 Жыл бұрын
I changed that valve following this video, HC is up and now my hot and cold is backwards when showering. What did I do wrong
@xBuLLeTx1919 Жыл бұрын
Spin the stem only leave the cartridge installed and just spin the stem with no trim on only handle then test if still the same spin another half turn until right your welcome
@MrColeStephen2 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! Saved my ass!!!
@parkerswafford1151 Жыл бұрын
Which do you like better moen or delta?
@synergy7501 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video, alot of help.
@fetarebel18 Жыл бұрын
Costumer : ok sir how much cost Plumber: just 700$
@artm558310 ай бұрын
Is it really??? That’s such an easy job.
@hugomenchaca9127 ай бұрын
TY very helpful
@serdgeedgerunner9 ай бұрын
you barely show most interesting part. I can't remove my cartridge from the pipe, it stuck..
@mikeb37095 ай бұрын
Moen sucks
@josesoberanis6812 ай бұрын
👍 👍 👍 👍
@lizdarbey20536 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@JamesBond-bd3pz8 ай бұрын
Excellent 👍
@maryford46674 ай бұрын
It's not that easy for some people also you need a good bit of power to pull it out if it's been years and putting it back in I'm 21 male 240 and it was hard to get it back in not fun to deal with the lub it come with use all of it
@xBuLLeTx1919 Жыл бұрын
Ya the stops suck most 1222s will not come out with needle nose pliers sometimes u will need to screw screws I. The cartridge to pull it out if your puller don’t work ha and the h/c don’t mean shit when the stem has been turned around by whoever the hell touches it before you and ps don’t ever buy knock off 1222s to save u 20$ it will bite you in the ass on install day love moen
@jeffreytholm96694 ай бұрын
These jobs can backfire on you quickly. Cartridges are plumbers scariest jobs imho.
@adamholbrook44088 ай бұрын
I replaced mine today, but now there is a slight leak coming out of the faucet whereas it didn't leak before. I had to replace it bc it wouldn't shut the water off in the tub. what's causing it to leak and how do I stop the leak?
@brettwagner-sr4yu7 ай бұрын
The only Moen stuff worth a damn is CFG stuff. Their sink stems are so easy to work on. No seat or spring. Just stem and the nut.
@datboyv1980 Жыл бұрын
Would this fix a low pressure issue?
@DaveDocDIY Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen it fix it for Moen
@eduardobetancourt43475 ай бұрын
Very rare that that type of cartridge comes out complete, you usually have to take out in pieces 😢
@davidtesso478911 ай бұрын
Bro I've had to chisel those valves out of the housing cuse they broke apart. They sure ain't DELTA
@Seven7Pain1 Жыл бұрын
if its a old one the make a tool so you dont pinch yourself with needle nose put on turn with channel locks take off pullout its cheap and usually comes with the new cartage wonder why his didnt
@GarrettHorne-h3o10 ай бұрын
Hello. I changed this cartridge and now the water pressure is much lower, how can I increase it?
@jaytemp59755 ай бұрын
What lubricant do I use and where do I put it?
@Donerightcarpentry Жыл бұрын
Do any of you guys know whats the typical labor charge to replace a shower cartridge?
@rockridgefarms Жыл бұрын
Depending where you are....average hourly rate is around 100$
@dj40806 ай бұрын
Everything worked the way you posted. Thank you.
@nnavas96379 ай бұрын
That fake voice is so annoying
@roger101282 Жыл бұрын
Thank you help a lot. Struggling to find the link to get another replacement just in case
@AM-un4rh10 ай бұрын
Why do we need to change this?
@jrod3260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave, keep Plumbing!! 👍😎👍
@DaveDocDIY Жыл бұрын
Of course!!
@stress.relief Жыл бұрын
Help! i dropped it in the wall
@jess559vi4 ай бұрын
What treatment do you add
@dorkygirlsurvivalist3482 Жыл бұрын
Video helped me change mine. I messed up at first and it leaked worse. Turned out one of the rubber pieces fell off in the package. Been working on learning some basics for a small renovation in my current home and to build my own tiny house. Subscribed. Thank you.
@walterham51073 ай бұрын
Bueno!
@chrischsproductscom16369 ай бұрын
Thank you
@liamsexton2554Ай бұрын
They rarely come out that easy. Invest in a cartridge puller
@Thycowboy Жыл бұрын
I dropped mine in the wall 😅
@DaveDocDIY Жыл бұрын
That’s a lesson/mistake I learned once and ONLY once. Best way to learn though! 😂
@kylecraanen6254 Жыл бұрын
I have a metal plate behind my handle instead of the plastic how do I get this off?
@dannysmith6093 Жыл бұрын
This is why I only install delta shower valves. So much easier