BLACK SWAN RAISED! Now THIS Is DoT!!! (Honkai Star Rail)

[@TheyCallMeDio]

They all started by saying "I'm not interested in DoT teams" But after giving it a taste... You just can't get enough

[@mikaelcrucible]

honestly just feels like people somehow enjoy perma chasing crit stats while i find it miserable and near impossible

[@drbeeant]

This is the exact reason I pivoted into DoT. Built Jingliu to an okay (like 5/10) degree then said fuck crit stats went all in on DoT by building Kafka, Guinaifen, and Sampo...​ and now Black Swan.@@mikaelcrucible

[@Zafaruss]

When Kafka came out I started and have never been able to stop. It’s so good 😭

[@KmvInterlude]

Nah still not interested lil pup

[@josephwong5859]

ita a end game build only not friendly to if you are starting and getting her althugh she can solo but still lacking at E0 need E1 to really work at to. once you can build up more dot char very future proof thou IMO.

[@mordinsolis6133]

Getting 120% effect hit is very important. For one it lets you use a atk% orb instead of wind. And it is needed to ensure that her 65% base chance dots can hit enemies in endgame, since they tend to have 30-40% effect res

[@AryaPDipa]

This. Unlike other debuffer, her base chance is not 100%. She needs the EHR to land debuffs.

[@karmabased]

Atk orb better Than wind?

[@ScorningAcorn37]

​​@@karmabasedYeah, because she converts effect hit rate to dmg bonus. With 120 ehr she get 65% dmg bonus, so a atk orb is generally better. Edit:- the difference b/w wind and atk orb is very minimal so just go with the one that has better substats

[@hazardsigns]

I am currently stuck with a wind orb because it has like 8 speed and 15% EHR on it and she runs so much better with that speed. I'll be saving atk orb from now on though 😅🤞

[@ScorningAcorn37]

​@@hazardsigns the difference b/w wind and atk orb is very minimal so just go with the one that has better substats

[@Farisss11]

ruan mei is the best harmony for black swan because, ruan mei delayed enemy turn by a lot, and everytime enemy got delay, they got more arcana, and arcana damage is multiplying in every stack

[@MichaelK34752]

if a DOT character has 100% chance to place a debuff you realisticly only need 40-50EHR (guinaifeng)kafka less so because of 30% bonus chance in traces. 65% chances to place want 100-110 effect hit rate (black swan/ sampo) so her trace asking for 120 EHR to give you dmg bonus is cash back on a stat you HAVE to invest in anyway.

[@WaelLeh]

i agree its a substitute for a wind dmg orb as building 120% ehr equals 72% dmg more than 38% dmg from the wind orb so you could go atk orb

[@MichaelK34752]

@@WaelLeh ESPECIALLY if you run with kafka ruan mei,

[@kukitali]

the thumbnail omg... your best so far

[@mordinsolis6133]

For building BS mostly wrong, it was still a neat showcase. The effect hit rate on BS is really supposed to be 120% since in endgame 65% base chance needs that much ehr to ensure application, which you saw by how enemies sometimes didnt have it when they spawn in. Meanwhile kafka is ok with as little as 29%, so there you went way overboard. Especially if you use her with ruan, wind orb is way overkill, since she gets 72% all element dmg from having 120% ehr anyway. Fu is more or less a complete waste on a dot team, since crit doesnt really do much. Much better to bring huohuo or lynx for the atk% buff.

[@msolomon9499]

I have Ruan Mei, should I focus on atk% planar orb?

[@omarbirkdar5536]

​@@msolomon9499if you can get one with good subs then that will be a bit better, but if your wind orb has much better substats than stick to that

[@Ray_-gf1bj]

Moga Huo Huo is better for dot teams because of her Ult that can battery and buff your team, and Ruan Mei is better than a 3rd dot unit for a Kafka Black Swan team

[@ScaryYokai]

Some people just don't care, because Fu Xuan is such a braindead character.

[@mile._ot]

I have both huohuo and fu xuan. Even though Huohuo would be better for DoT teams, she always makes my team run out of skill points cos of how powerful some enemy attacks are. Fu xuan is just skill and Base Atk and you’ll remain sp positive

[@pradyumnarout8402]

Black swan is such a hit or miss... Like I have Kafka, Sampo, Gunaifen, Pela and thats it.... Ive the strongest team 1 and the other team is struggling... While the Black Swan team also struggles with speed because of the enemy turn mechanics... Running out of turns.... Maybe I'm just ranting but when the damage happens, it happens like crazy... Like CRAZY CRAZY

[@zackarybumbaugh9677]

You can run Sampo and black swan as a team and it destroys moc and then leave the the rest of your dot team for kafka

[@pradyumnarout8402]

@@zackarybumbaugh9677 gotta built a rat now 😭

[@alawe-memes9022]

​@@pradyumnarout8402that's your problem brother deal with it😅

[@dazzle810]

​@pradyumnarout8402 he's my favorite rat I love him so much, I use my bkaxk swan with sampo misha and luocha for fun and sampo is also really strong if yiu build him nice

[@zackarybumbaugh9677]

@dazzle810 lot of people don't know he is mini kafka when e4 since it let's him proc wind dot which is perfect for swan Sampo comps

[@szasvaseline5058]

dont forget the prisoner set can be used as a 2 pc for ur dps!! keep the good pieces u get.

[@vm8210]

you should use huohuo not fu xuan(fu xuan crit rate buff is useless, but huohuos atk energy and even speed from the messenger set are much more useful) especially in pure fiction where the enemies dont deal that much damage

[@ekaterinamalinkina3899]

100% Effect hit rate ≠ always applies dot. She has 65% chance of applying Arcana, that’s why she needs around 120 effect hit rate (according to other CC math, i personally not sure if you need even more, but probably not)

[@KillerFox971]

the reason why she need 120 ehr is because end game enemies have a 30 40% effect res, so you need 120 ehr to guarantee arcana application

[@kireinyaa]

​@@KillerFox971 you need 156% to guarantee

[@ApeEscape2]

Nice one! I would def reccommend the luka light cone for pela (or even silver wolf) at S5 there's so much def shred and it raises their support ability even more. Also the 120% EHR is really good since 1. The Damage Bonus 2. Arcana stacks are just straight up guaranteed

[@mamonth6985]

I really recommend building Himeko/Herta duo for Pure Fiction

[@karlkardesh6304]

i would recommend the EHR body, it increases her damage by a lot, given her ascension passive, and also you really don't want Arcana missing

[@bestavocado3237]

you could consider one of Kafka’s now best teams to be HuoHuo (atk buff, heals, and ER), Black Swan (for obvi reasons), Kafka, and Ruan Mei/ Tingyun/ Guinaifen! i think Ruan Mei works the best for the team amongst all and HuoHuo as well! since Fu Xuan gives crit stacks and DoT doesn’t scale with it! just thoughts and hope you consider got god mode!!! :D

[@Marz333]

I use Fu Xuan with them because it’s all I have, she’s really comfy and there’s that one light come that applies burn when she’s attacked (niche but still an option)

[@brainrot8802]

Kafka detonating DoT's doesn't make them go away, it just counts as another trigger of said DoTs. For example, if an enemy has 5 stacks of windsheer and Kafka detonates that, they'll take the damage but they'll still have those 5 stacks of windsheer, so when they're turn is up they'll take that windsheer DoT damage again.

[@jimmybarber823]

1:18 its whating it out 😃

[@siliconhawk]

well first time i saw a video with "no views" as the number of views, didn't knew that how it was

[@notxendras7730]

That lighting body relic on seele pains my heart since I'm a seele main and I love her alot

[@casbites]

It's such a struggle for those of us who keep missing Kafka to pair Black Swan with anyone (": Sampo works.. ok-ish but I feel like she doesn't shine unless you have Kafka

[@fareehashaheen605]

that's probably why they reran kafka right before lmao. there are 4* alternatives (e4 sampo, gui's burst, e6 luka) but ofc none compare to kafka

[@casbites]

@@fareehashaheen605 I was trying my best to grind for kafka bc I knew it would make a difference, I just didn't realize how MUCH of a gap there'd be

[@amemiyazaki50]

well kafka is dot enabler , she will make dot more damage

[@alawe-memes9022]

Soo excited for the future of Dot Also this game is going Up and Down with the meta it's crazy We might have more characters that are unique and also we might have a discussion character Soo excited for the future of this game❤ We also might have a 3 times revival healers or even better!! A NEW PATH FOR OTHER AEONS Can't wait

[@altogrey9712]

for Pure Fiction 4th stage there, i suggest take out Fu for HuoHuo, since she actually does more for you with enough and alot of healing and cleanse as well as energy and atk, and then you go maybe Tingyun or just a random DPS really, BlackSwan+Kafka by themselves are enough to clear it at 40k. 2nd side you can do usual Ice Team, or Herta + Himeko for the 2nd half, even with half well built, they both actually can clear it at 40k too

[@4rch0711]

I hope he sees this. Calcs showed that for black swan, unless you have around 154+ speed, it's much better to go atk boots. 120% ehr is minimum and atk sphere is recommended especially if paired with ruan mei since that's like 140%+ dmg bonus. While atk is what you want for dot characters, speed is as much of an asset that can be put on the same level as ehr.

[@Celbrant_Artist]

I feel like welt would be very good on her no kafka teams. She is very much dependent on her stacks of arcana. Pushing back enemies while she stacks it. Of course her ult makes it so enemy turns don' t reset it. Welt can easily help her keep up with stacking. She can stacl up to 50 if I can recall. BS, Welt, Ruan Mei or Guin, and a sustain While Kafka can do well with Sampo, guin or ruan mei, and a sustain Of course, we all know her best teammates are with Kafka and Ruan mei.

[@zafkeil_27290]

The effect hit-ret set is better for her, in link rope and orbe. It should make it easier for you to stack effect hit-ret on her with atk chest.

[@blank_2052]

Talia kingdom knights is her BIS plannar ornaments Edit: i am so sorry i meant pan-cosmic commercial enterprise not talia kingdom knights

[@meriwidget3474]

If she's over 160 speed, Glamoth's actually edges it out a bit still. And Talia is the worst set to farm for TB power efficiency. But yes, under 160 speed Talia beats others by like 2%.

[@gyanaranjansenapati1548]

HUH?

[@francisdl5467]

The one that gives break effect?

[@meriwidget3474]

Edit! Both I and original poster (I think) meant the Pan-Galactic set.

[@mikaelcrucible]

it has a bis(*) to it, it's best technically but getting the set is not very worth the farming or the fragments honestly unless you desperately need and cannot get enough ehr for 120 or something

[@meriwidget3474]

My account that's BP+daily pass only finally cleared up to Conundrum 8 with her and Kafka.. VERY strong hitting team, I think I might not get further because even with getting a lot of remembrance and propagation cards, I don't have any way of CCing enemy, and I have to run Fu Xuan and Bailu to keep them alive. That was doing the "capitalism" dice run.

[@sleep_something_something]

here we go again...( btw people should really start considering using a atk orb in a ruan mei team more, most of the time its better plus easier to farm) I20 is very necessary it's worth the dmg boost also u need around I56 to guarantee her dots on 40 res+ enemies ( IMO dot units are harder to build cause u need speed + atk + a very specific set + sometimes effect hit rate) her e2 is VERY mid at best pf is too ez for it to be good e4 is GODLY and I once even got a one-turn ult with it s3 eyes is better than s5 tutorial yhea u first need I20+ ideally I30 if mid-maxing, 3500atk I35+ speed, also ATK orb is better in a ruan mei team + she gets a shit ton of dmg boost from her traces

[@cyberboy4459]

I MIGHT have to start playing honkai

[@benjaminfels7660]

I think she is amazing, for god mode I would recommend you to pair sampo with her, because his ult causes DoT vulnerability

[@thegreeneyed5158]

As a DoT veteran (I have all dot raised other than luka) The 79 ehr hurt my soul becuz

[@DieSerah]

Cant wait for Acheron combined with Black Swan

[@chinnerchilla]

I know I feel like people will have to see it to believe it but esp with her e1 it’s gonna be crazy

[@freemoneycash664]

But Acheron is not dot lol

[@DieSerah]

@@freemoneycash664 Acheron is Nihility so i would Assume she has Dots

[@freemoneycash664]

@@DieSerah she does not she is dps debuffer

[@percivalfiorello5254]

​@@DieSerah Pela, Welt, Silver Wolf is Nihility, but doesn't have dot.

[@Pokomomox]

Hi Moga!

[@MattVascud]

use HuaHua with Dots team instead Fu Xuan :)

[@Azyne]

getting Black Swan was the best thing for me. Why? I main Kafka and Blade.

[@salty_grave]

Pretty sure youre going to want that EHR chest piece to max out her damage bonus.

[@Farisss11]

my bs build is 3,4k atk 118 ehr with max out trace i used atk chest 5 of my 6 piece had 10+ ehr stat

[@josebutereselreal]

​@@Farisss11 Lucky

[@grommy511]

120 something effect hit rate is good for her since it affects her arcana chance. Base is 65% but it become higher as you build effect hit rate. So it scales twice. In her passive dmg bonus AND chance for her debuff to work. For 100% chance to apply arcana on any enemy you would need 157 effect hit rate so 120% is good middle ground.

[@0v_x0]

"because she'll explode the dots" you know they stay on after kafka ult? she just triggers them an extra time for 70%© damage. I love this pair

[@0v_x0]

you can also only skill with black swan every 2-3 turns and still stack the same amount of arcana (like you convered in her kit). I'm pretty sure I noticed that her def shred doesn't need to refresh every turn?

[@TreyGunnerMDM]

I got swan Kafka Ruan Mei and Hou Hou this team is so gud in any content

[@Sirr304]

Nah man they gotta change the fucking rates, I thought I was just hella unlucky. Seems like other people get def rolls often as well.

[@tah7866x]

Im a returning player to hsr and i got dan heng il but idk if its good or not 😭😭

[@danielshatila4327]

he's crazy

[@alawe-memes9022]

One of the best DPS if not the best 2# Just pull for sparkle next

[@theturtle8869]

I got Dan Heng, his relics aren’t fully max and yet he’s still hitting hard.

[@nottherealendie]

Moga casually getting DOT god pieces and going "eh, it's a solid piece" while using also relics that obly have like 5.4 crit rate lol. This man's standard is a mystery not even Nous can calculate.

[@nuncaooga]

Pan intergalactic set is the best for BS but it sucks to farm and ther is not much difference in terms of dmg between wind dmg% and atk% orb

[@ratattack1419]

Firmament frontline and pan cosmic enterprise r pretty much tied

[@JA_ID]

you forgot about pan-cosmic commercial Enterprise and huo huo

[@johnnydeez6953]

Imo the last p.f run was kinda scuffed, shoulda kept ruan mei with dot that put hua hua instead of f.x, then he coulda put bronya with jingliu on team 2, to be fair for a first try run it wasnt bad, def need get e.h.r body & ball & chain set unless get some godly e.h.r. subs.

[@tomyosef2143]

hello mr moga. would you like to try a team composed of Black Swan, Kafka, Huohuo + flex? I think the energy given by huohuo is huge :)

[@why-so-toxic_1413]

She is the mother of recollection

[@no897]

she's so prettyyy

[@blad1102]

help guys how to open the dot relics? i just finished main quest from liangzhou ship or something the massive chinese themed ship but i didnt see that relic set anywhere on the map

[@wamuu3543]

You almost made the best possible DoT team in the game right now; the only difference is that Fu Xuan's crit rate boost doesn't do anything for the team. Huohuo's Energy regeneration and ATK boost will do much more!

[@ew2dr]

btw you don't have to use her skill all the time, esp if you struggle with skill points

[@JACK-yg4fz]

will u stream le penacony story?

[@Alex_01477]

Mi black swan hit 180k so happy🤗still needs to be more built tho

[@zenweeb8506]

Def should replace FX with HuoHuo, HuoHuo's whole kit helps the DoT team, while FX only really keeping them alive. Also Ruan Mei is amazing with JIngliu, but it would go better if you put Bronya with her since Jingliu can use all the buffs Bronya gives, unlike the Kafka Dot team who would MUCH rather Ruan Mei tan Bronya.

[@PatrickStar-me8fp]

Black swan is really good specially when paired with Kafka but... your Kafka kinda sucks ngl

[@nieqsukiop9828]

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@mutantx327]

GO EHR Body ASAP and ATT Sphere... also if you go Pan-Cosmic ( her best in slot I think ) it should help as well to reach that 120 EHR and you get 25% ATT as well so its a win win there. Hope this helps to other Black Swan havers as well cuz a lot of guides don't say this and they just build her wrong and its a shame !

[@fightorflight2279]

I agree. This is how I built my Swan. I thought it was gonna be tough to get to 120 Ehr but I did it even with trash relics and eyes of the prey lightcone

[@mutantx327]

@@fightorflight2279 Same here lol 😅 Now I'm just working on the relics and its pain...

[@DioBrando-xo7zd]

Holy shet how do you clear this with 3 stars😭😭😭 Its purely impossible, enemies gets more turns than any character with high speed

[@Hefnaa]

Swan is busted, I just started playing Honkai 2 weeks ago, managed to pull Kafka & her LC twice before she went away then my luck snapped for Black Swan, I managed to get her E2 & her LC & Guin to E6. I already have a decent DoT team & the numbers from it are insane. I can’t imagine how good it’ll be when I pull for stronger DoT units.

[@blanca4101]

How are you so lucky, I've played since launch and have lost every 50/50 and gone to 180 pity every time 😅

[@itsayol9962]

use kafka huohuo black swan and ruan mei/pela

[@sleep_something_something]

oh god the fuxuan is hurting my soul

[@envy5210]

Hi moga

[@kay._.]

Spent 2000 trailblaze power on her as a semi p2w and did not get one singular good relic

[@subhajitdas6537]

Why are you using fu xuan in dot teams,,?? Bro you have a built huo huo, why.

[@omarbirkdar5536]

Black swan needs 120% EHR, while kafka only needs 30%EHR, also ruan mei is better than a third dot unit, and huohuo is best for dot teams

[@ekaterinamalinkina3899]

E0 S0 - accurate representation of F2P 💀

[@blanca4101]

Yeah???

[@darkindinkaca7768]

Herta will carry your pure fiction

[@Majin_Fuu]

I'm stuck at 119.7% EHR on my black swan 🤬

[@alawe-memes9022]

Hear me out: BLACK SWAN IS A HUGE META CHANGING UNIT It's crazy where when black swan came out the meta became all her She's a must pull for everyone who have Kafkuuh And if you don't have Kafkuuh Don't worry she's still soo good 💯

[@yourlocalyanfei]

If I don’t have Kafka, who would be good teammates?

[@stressed_tfout4501]

@@yourlocalyanfei E4 Sampo

[@bang-naim]

We love kafkuuh

[@gauthamka]

atk percent sphere is better for the most part and reaching that 120 ehr mark is very important

[@markadaza9940]

if I had better internet I think I could have been first.

[@samuraiblindado6439]

Bs triple dot is viable? I really need Ruan mei in the other team

[@AryaPDipa]

Yeah, it's the standard F2P setup for her and it works just fine

[@mordinsolis6133]

You can go triple dot, but really if you cant use ruan in your dot team, replace her with asta. Still gets a chance to apply burn, while giving tons of speed and atk% which are basically all you want on dot chars.

[@Najimi420]

kafka power creep hahahahah

[@Games-lc7jr]

First!

[@raheeljaved1509]

First here