This Twitter Artist's "Fan" Comment is Quite Uncalled For...( Because She’s Muslim )

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[@MohammedAgbadi]

**gasps***desperately trying to regain lost braincells from previous gacha video.

[@der_saftmon]

They are gone. Reduced to nothing. Not even atoms are left. I am sorry for your loss of braincells. Edit: I just now realize how wrong this sounds out of Context

[@swordupmyass]

Thoes braincells would probably just bring back bad memories, beat if you don’t get them back at all.

[@glowtail3744]

Hope you recover quickly from the brutal destruction of braincells that nearly killed you Hope your braincells regenerate quickly

[@rohankishibe2985]

Hope you get better, because I've lost braincells as well.😔

[@danrazART]

Wait what? 😂 You went gatchatube!

[@Frenchaboo]

Half of this discourse wasn't even needed, it's just that pointing out anything about the artist's appearance or culture when it's in no way relevant to their work is just irrelevant and uncalled in general lol

[@MohammedAgbadi]

this is an even better way to put it

[@Loctorak]

Some people seem genuinely unable to think of things in terms that aren't related to the person rather than the subject. You'll know who they are because if you ever present them with facts that contradict their own beliefs, they will call you names. 😅

[@realswobby]

I can see that this was not needed but at the same time, it was just a one short sentence and it could be handled way better, instead of creating a drama around it

[@danielawesome36]

This kinda sounds like "Proof that having Tattoos don't mean you're a bad person," or something.

[@NelsonStJames]

Good analogy.

[@nawee6801]

Yup good point.! MayB they thought that her hijab would get in her way as an artist.

[@eduardaarrais]

Guy goes to bakery, buys some muffins, mf on the Twitter "proof that people with tattoos are not all thugs and have good culinary taste". 👌🏻

[@MedskiPurnamski]

Yep, or like having black friends for dinner and surprised that nothing in the house is missing after they left. The offensiveness come from the preconceived notion that one particular group of people tend to follow certain stereotypes. And in this specific case, it shows the prevalent and often wrong western orientalist views of other cultures, such as the arrogant view that a hijab always represents oppression.

[@danielawesome36]

Almost all the problems in the world could've been solved by good parenting-raising a child correctly. For most, it's too late to be parented(literally). I just hope that most of the next generation are raised right.

[@saurophaganax_0]

ok but real talk: 1)the hijab is not exclusively and necessarily muslim. Is been a common piece of clothing in all of the Midde east, Central and Indian Asia, north of Africa and even eastern Europe for hundreds of years. 2)She literally said she's Jordanian, a place where hijab is common amongst many women, so regardless of her beliefs, the hijab might just be a thing she likes to use because of her cultural heritage. 3)I'm so done with the whole "hijab bad" "everything haram" bullshit, I'm sick of people fitting entire cultures with long complex histories that they neither understand nor know anything about into monocromatic etiquettes just because they don't look, do or think like they do. She could very well be jewish, christian, or even atheist but all they see is a hijab, not a person, not an artist, a hijab. Cultural targeting is dangerous people, specially for the muslims in such difficult times like these.

[@chickpea]

Indeed! People don't hold the same discourse about nuns or even religious portraits of Mary, which usually also includes head coverings, yet here we are.

[@guccigirl2389]

not really.. here in the middle east mostly woman who are muslim wear hijab if when they want to wear it but are not most usually don't cover their whole hair , for muslim women who wear hijab tho they sometimes wear a hijab that shows their hair EDIT i am so fucking mad too and i agree

[@salheg4222]

they dont care about the head coverings/modest clothing until it's a muslim

[@juicy3Dstudio]

It's not called a hijab in Europe though. Its just a headscarf, mostly for protection against the sun while working outside at the fields and also a fashion choice. Saying from experience from Norway too! It's weird to see modern people look down on hijab when we almost had the same fashion/style here not that long ago. Some old women here still like wearing this! =) I just dont understand some people smh

[@starbiird]

What you said is completely right although I think that your wording doesn’t make too much sense to me! Hijab is a religious robe as hijab is directly Islamic, headscarves are fabrics anyone can wear on their heads and is a way of fashion/culture but I think it isn’t correct to wear a headscarf in the manner of a hijab (+ to my knowledge your terminology is a bit off hijab = covering your body in the name of Allah [swt] it’s not only the headscarf), as it is inappropriate. Typically headscarves that are not Islamic show a bit of hair, neck, adorned with a shirt that does not cover until your wrist, or a skirt/shorts and pants that don’t cover your ankles. So while I think you’re right on the fact that headscarves are not exclusively Islamic, the hijab is since it is more than just a head cover, it is covering your whole body modestly in the name of Allah [swt] Culturally, before Islam people wore headscarves because of the heat but they did not cover themselves or act modest, as it was the norm for women to be more like.. tools (I hate to say it) for men wayyy back then in the Middle East, so while headscarves are known as fashion or cultural, without religious choices and proper practices it will never be the same as the value of the whole hijab. Please correct me if I’m wrong, this is just what I’ve learned as a Muslim woman and I am happy to be educated.

[@kayyishahaifa4980]

As a hijabi I find that compliment weird. Just weird. What they said wasn't horrible, but it isn't really something you'd be happy for it to be said to you. It's like something that'll make everybody in a party silent if you say it because of the confusion and awkwardness that sentence brings.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

yes exactly, now i wouldn't lie i've been in a fair share of awkward situations similar to this but different context because of my name, and as much as it's common, it seems the urge to make a snarky remark is never too far out of grasp.

[@kmightnare1911]

agree, as a muslim my self to me it come off as if those that cover them self is stupid or creative. so like it is a compliment but i think its more like compliment to the person, not the creation.

[@mimicinabox2547]

@@MohammedAgbadi For real. In my country (ID) - at least the people i know, parents are expected to raise their children to behave/ carry themselves befitting certain names from Qur'an or Bible, if they are named so. So if you're named Mohammed, Yusuf/Joseph, Musa/Moses, Ibrahim/ Abraham etc and you act negatively, you'll be shunned and mocked by the people. A LOT.

[@otakumangastudios3617]

@@MohammedAgbadi I can see why some people might be upset or bothered or just find it odd that there's this compliment, but as someone who's also a member of the minority religion that has many members covering for religious reasons, I've had my fair share of criticisms and being told backhanded comments and compliments but the other way around, usually basically implying that I can show more skin if I'd like to, which of course I'm not interested. Basically, in other words, other people's ideologies and baggage being imposed upon me, I don't know maybe they grew up in the super strict home that yelled at them if they didn't cover up enough so then they think they're being super liberal by giving me some backhanded comment about the way I portray myself? I don't know but I specifically also have gotten it from a lot of older women especially those who practice a little less or perhaps are less observant although that doesn't really mean to anything to me but they seem to feel some sense of assumed judgment upon them simply because I appear to be more practicing than they are in our religion, I guess kind of like how people will get defensive towards you if you are a dentist and then once you mentioned it they start to defend how they floss and brush all the time or whatever? I'm guessing it's kind of like that but it still has been very uncomfortable especially in my teen Hood and have gotten comments from others that I guess left their religion and just assume everyone who covers up for religious reasons are oppressed. Perhaps this comment was offensive to some but to be honest I'm glad that finally people are acknowledging that there's nothing anti-feminist about covering up your skin, especially as someone who grew up in a world where it was considered feminist to hypersexualize yourself for the public and then so if you cover yourself up it was seen by society as backwards rather than four words because you're a woman making your own decision based off of your spiritual beliefs. I remember even relatives saying stuff about it and anytime they mention them wearing a skirt they would talk about how they don't cover as much as I do which I really don't give a freak about but they decide to mention it anyway. This is what I mean by weird backhanded comments about my modesty standards, and then people decide to make commentary by telling me about how it's not really necessary to be that modest or how female physique is beautiful and how I'm beautiful which makes me extremely uncomfortable when people give me commentary about my physical appearance because also for one it really shows their insecurities more than anything and also I really hate attention being brought to my physical appearance at all whatsoever. I just want to live my life and I don't give a freak about appearances but it really bothers me when people decide to bring attention to it when it's unnecessary. Put on top of that when they start making weird comments about how they don't cover up as much as I do and then explaining why like literally every single time they mention a garment that doesn't cover up as much as mine does but I literally don't care. I guess most Muslims didn't experience that so then that's why they find this comment in the video offensive? I don't know about you guys but I'm just so happy to see that again, finally people are seeing that there's nothing sexist at all or backwards about wanting to cover up more as a woman

[@boxed_in4357]

@@mimicinabox2547 never heard of that even tho I’m a Muslim! My name is Nafis, taken from the guy who discovered the 4 thingies in the heart (I’m not into that stuff but my mother’s wish is that I be successful)

[@FloofyReks]

As a Muslim with aspirations of being an artist, seeing people like Sara makes me really happy.

[@hannayii4537]

honestly same though

[@greatsageamane1984]

Same! It makes me happy seeing other Muslims like me making their own art

[@HAQEEMisHERE]

:D

[@milky8471]

@@greatsageamane1984 I'm a Muslim to and i love drawing but i'm scared that i will go to hell because we don't kniw if it's haram or not

[@r.b7979]

Same here

[@guccigirl2389]

this is actually a real problem in the islamic society (speaking as a muslim) whenever a girl that wears hijab does something, people always never talk about the accomplishment that she did but they always talk about how her hijab didn't stop her and that women who want to take off their hijabs are making stupid excuses, they really can't leave women and girl do what they want and as a muslim who doesn't wear hijab it makes me angry

[@oceanetir8824]

IKR 😭

[@steppedonmyglasses]

Yeah... people should be free to choose to wear or NOT to wear hijab. Unfortunately in some parts of the world this is not a choise

[@meriem7069]

@@steppedonmyglasses like France

[@meriem7069]

@Sky 07 From a religious point of view I disagree with people who says that hijab must cover the face but I believe that people are free to wear whatever they want as long as it covers thier private parts. In my country you can wear whatever you want sure there will be people who will judge you but they exist everywhere on earth... But I don't think covering the face was a problem with security in the last 20 years ... Sure some criminals tried to use it but it doesn't really work believe me .. and since the pandemic started everyone is covering thier faces and it doesn't seem to be a problem What I want to say is they can deal with it .. it's not dangerous or anything

[@vexzel5550]

Thank you for enlightening me I have never been a women nor was i born in a reality/time/culture where the Hijab was an option for me when it comes to beliefs and religion it is believing/having faith in something you believe is truth out of the infinite something you resonate that extends past personal truth but as universal law truth where this truth is shared among other believers. truthfully I am a fool and all i do is reflect wondering if we're all presently even real what is real? what matters? reinforced patterns from this realm adopted or pushed upon there is a constructed perspective we each have from growing in this life where a collective amount of consciousnesses have solidified and defined ("things" because what is something when it does not have anything) as truth('s) in this realm (example Red. Red is red because many believe it is red. If someone where to call Red shellow are they right or wrong? if we take away our meanings and understandings of Red it is still there but what is it is it really there we cannot call it "nothing or silence" because it is something, that thing we call red and teach and pass to others but what is the original truth of this thing what is it's origin?) i believe if it is real truth everyone will know but until then i hope all artist can feel something meaningful and know what matters is what you believe about yourself and your art you matter and what you care about matters I just hope one day we can all care about each other and respect each other heading towards a healthy future

[@Hanjil]

Something similar happened to me before. I posted a draw and this guy just said "good, you represented your race well!" and I was like "you're talking about me drawing a black girl, or me being a black girl?" It was really strange, and a little uncomfortable.

[@shinysoda6]

"You represent your race well!" This is honestly really confusing...are they saying it's possible to incorrectly represent your own race? All you did was draw a black girl so...how could you get representation wrong by just simply drawing a black girl? (Btw if your pfp is your art it looks beautiful ❤)

[@mxhoney988]

I definitely feel like they could’ve said that better

[@Hanjil]

@@shinysoda6 OMG thanks! 😭🥰 I'm still learning so it really make me happy when somebody compliments it 🥰 I really think he was talking about me being a black girl and drawing well but this just make things worse 😂😂

[@Hanjil]

@@mxhoney988 totally lol :v

[@JokeHatesItHere]

Your PFP is so pretty did you draw it?

[@johnmivule-novabow8143]

You know what's not out of place? THIS MAN'S Awesome FIRE lookin BEANIE Also Sara is an amazing person

[@MohammedAgbadi]

let's goooo

[@ros9764]

We need a benie like this but as merch from the channel if it yet doesn't exist

[@johnmivule-novabow8143]

@@ros9764 100%

[@Fisinocean]

@@MohammedAgbadi Out of context, but i really want to steal your skin

[@xexpaguette]

@@Fisinocean i

[@nickwiththehat9727]

Took me by surprise seeing Sara in your thumbnail. I went to the same university as Sara and met her during my Sophomore year. While I'm not too familiar with Muslim culture and lifestyles, she's a confident, talented individual. That's one thing we can all agree on.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

oh that's amazing! small world truly.

[@creepywaffles4783]

I’ve never heard of Sara until today but she really seems like a nice person and I don’t have Twitter but if I did I’d definitely give her a follow. I can’t imagine how surprised you were because it’d be crazy seeing someone you know on here

[@mtalha6157]

Non-Figural art is promoted in Islam which differs from Christian art because drawing a person/animal/figure can be termed as "Idolatry". PLUS another fact that Calligraphic and Architectural art gets praise in Islam. Although I come to the conclusion that it's all dependant on your intentions. As the Hadith says " Rewards of your actions depends on your Intentions".

[@crystalwings4520]

The last sentences reminds me with how I should doing before I say something on Twitter. Like, Twitter is a wild place for some people.

[@mtalha6157]

@@crystalwings4520 Yeh they will even try to cancel you if you say "Allahu Akbar". I am glad some sane people exist on twitter as well to spread a bit of positivity.

[@Fisinocean]

@@mtalha6157 ?????????? And this is the same kind of peoppe who woukd cancel others for a 5 year old jokes?

[@nevamoore5192]

First time I've heard that in my life. Where the heck did you get that information (referring the the Christian part?) I'd like to look into it.

[@r.b7979]

@@nevamoore5192 are you not allowed to draw portraits and such in christianity?

[@froggy3288]

I swear im so confused why people have theese weird thoughts like if you wanna compliment somone do it in a way that won’t come out as offensive . I also can’t belive people are blamming her for feeling uncomfortable with the “compliment “ they said to her And of course I’m not Blamming them I’m just saying that they should,ve thought about what they said because it may come off as pretty offensive especially to a muslim women

[@MohammedAgbadi]

well i guess people think they can compliment other people, especially women, however they want to disregarding the context of whatever it is they are complimenting them about and forcefully claim they (them and whatever they said) are right.

[@somethingsomething9667]

Yeah that compliment had the same tone as something like "Proof that black people are talented", though it may have good intentions it doesn't come out right.

[@FrootDeMoN]

As a Muslim myself this situation make me so mad. "Art is Haram" WHAT? They never told us anything like that. I'm digital artist and the most support I'm getting IS from people in my Muslim country. WTf?😂 Also this situation just shows how much western countries just leak information about Muslims. Like this literally feels like they are saying that Muslims are BAD people (I'm not saying they do but it really seems like it) and like just because they decide to cover their body? It's "Their Body" LOL

[@crystalwings4520]

Have you ever heard on how some people said that music is also haram? Well, we were in that situation before.

[@mxhoney988]

Definitely look into it 😂. Document kind of makes sense? Just look into it

[@kaiya_777]

actually that was the reason why i stop to draw, now i still hesitate to be honest

[@FrootDeMoN]

@@crystalwings4520 yes i did. But like the thing about all of this is the fact that it also really depends on the country you're on. Like in Iran our culture is just based on art and stuff search persian art and you see really creative stuff

[@FrootDeMoN]

@@kaiya_777 I'm sorry :(

[@cherry3139]

Why people need to be unnecessarily rude? Like mind your own business and let people be happy

[@MohammedAgbadi]

same reason Apple makes new iphones every year...because they can. (and don't care what others think) sigh

[@Satomie0_0]

In my school there was an islamic subject in when they taught us the “ drawing anything alive is haram” lesson, everyone poked fun at how the lesson doesn’t make sense because who doesn’t ever draw when he was a kid??? And also many times our islamic subject used illustrations for instruction and islamic cartoons are considered drawings

[@t.w.7057]

Yoooo had a simmiler thing in the Christian religion I was raised in. Kids where told if they owned or drew demonic things (talking about Smurf’s and Pokémon🙄) it’d invite demons, yet same religion had a whole revelation book illustrated with the great fiery red dragon and prophetic beasts I was all over. Even then I found it weird that a member was likely commissioned to do work that could apparently compromise their spirituality, just never sat right so did my thing anyway. Had a lot of my monster drawing thrown away n’ ripped up as a kid but fam got over it/got I wasn’t dropping it eventually :v.

[@mimismilktea]

the same thing happened to me too, the hypocrisy is hilarious

[@someone-mh1bo]

This comment is underrated, the same thing happened to me when I was 12 and because of that I stopped drawing until I was 19 and realized how stupid and superstitious that is, I wish people would slow down with this religion thing, this is not the medieval age anymore ffs.

[@nikibtisam8373]

I had this happen to me at 13. Someone said it was haram and it made me super upset. I'm lucky my mum studies Islamic law and cleared it up for me. It's haram if you worship it or something. Otherwise, drawing is completely fine. Main point why : DRAWING IS THE SAME CONCEPT AS TAKING PICTURES WITH A CAMERA. THE GOAL IS TO CAPTURE AN IMAGE AND PRESENT IT IN PICTURE. HOW ELSE DO PEOPLE OF THE PAST WITH NO CAMERAS ARE ALLOWED TO DRAW ALL THOSE IMPORTANT MONARCHS AND EVENTS IN HISTORY??? IF DRAWING HAD BEEN HARAM THEN SELFIES WOULD BE TOO

[@pastrycookiehateswolfoo6945]

I wish i had that subject at school but i can't cause most of the students at school are Christian

[@tireduwu1734]

The people who say stuff like "just take the compliment and go" are the same type of people who dismiss artists' hard work because of their 'talent'.

[@Loctorak]

Nice comment for someone with uneven legs. Now just take your compliment and go. (I'm kidding, if it's not obvious 😛)

[@imaninamakhtar896]

TL;DR Stop backhanded compliment. If you can't give a straightforward nice comment, don't give any comment at all. Backhanded compliment is only a snarky way to hold back insult/bad words but in order to not look bad, backhanded compliment is formed.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

based!

[@hahamadeyouread214]

Let this be a lesson, I learned mine for pointing it out to me. I am more aware of it now and so should people who’s doing backhanded compliments, because backhanded compliments are a confidence breaker in a disguise

[@MohammedAgbadi]

you're absolutely right. some people do not realise this when they do it, especially if they're oblivious of the fact that they're giving backhanded compliments, but it really is a confidence breaker.

[@ayumemo7074]

It is as you said, Art can be considered Haram ONLY if it’s used with bad intentions (like seeing yourself better than god at creating, nudity, etc..)

[@chickpea]

Wouldn't say nudity is automatically bad since it can be used to improve your art, I would say explicit context is more accurate.

[@chickpea]

@@someone-mh1bo Well in theory they are not wrong since Wicca exists and a lot of wiccans and pagans practice "magic" it's just not like they think it is and it's pretty harmless.

[@chickpea]

@@someone-mh1bo Please realize that these religions have very deep and intricate histories, I mean for a while, it was pagans who had knowledge about herbs that helped people with sickness before medicine was a thing. Just because someone practices something we don't believe in or we find weird, doesn't mean we are doomed.

[@moonstone6133]

@@someone-mh1bo is it really that hard to respect other people's religions?

[@moonstone6133]

@@someone-mh1bo and the other person was just saying that pagans have done a lot of helpful things in the past. they weren't claiming they could solve stuff like global warming or overpopulation

[@mangowithagun7900]

Smooth transition into the sponsor 😔👌

[@MohammedAgbadi]

thaannnkkkssss

[@quiescence90]

I pressed like right then lol

[@lukaswastaken8756]

Just for those who's wondering, the art being forbidden in Islam is a bit of a misunderstanding, back in the days of Mohammed (peace be upon him) many people tend to use "art" like statues, paintings and what not to be worshipped, and by doing so you're "challenging God" and in Islam its a sin to believe in a God other than Allah, and thats how the "art is forbidden" started. So if you're a muslim artist, its okay to continue making art as long you don't make them with bad intention or bad purposes like what Mohammed Agbadi said.

[@inkubator320]

Thank you

[@What-yi4qm]

This actually makes more sense than what my teacher said to me last time ago,thank you for this so much

[@flowey01]

And I have read that it’s better to not draw a full body like cut the head from the body or if you want to draw a creature like animals and humans do it without drawing there features(eyes mouths etc)

[@mysryuza]

This 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Ri57490]

It's referring to art of human and animals. Plants and other inanimate objects don't have that rule because nobody will start worshipping a picture of a leaf like they do with human and animal pictures and statues. There are artworks of plants decorating mosques.

[@diegogarcicruz6134]

I made a Twitter account recently to promote my work. I haven’t done much with it but I can tell I’m gonna regret downloading this medium…

[@MohammedAgbadi]

lmaooo well not really!

[@Appleeatpie97]

Good luck, I'm about to dip my toe into the wild world twitter.

[@babubillions499]

A genuine question. Why Twitter? Why not Instagram or any else where the toxicity is much less?

[@Appleeatpie97]

@@babubillions499 Mostly because I see a lot of artist posts their work on twitter, but I have not ruled out instagram. I think if play my cards right and just avoid any toxicity I should be fine.

[@diegogarcicruz6134]

@@babubillions499 I have an Instagram, and it’s going decent there, but with college classes, my art takes longer, so my reach either slows down or diminishes. I chose Twitter mainly to promote my work, but I don’t expect it to become a fully fledged place for me to submit my art. Figured that if I was sharing in two sites, I could make up for lost reach

[@obi-wan-pierogi]

Imagine posting that and thinking that it’s 1) a good idea and 2) that it’s a compliment and not you being unimaginably rude and cruel.

[@MohammedAgbadi]

imagine thinking about it even, and then going ahead to blurt it out on twitter....massive L

[@EmmaMel0]

bruh Twitter as a platform should just get deleted 😂😭

[@MohammedAgbadi]

lmaooo

[@mominansare948]

I have been Muslim my entire life, and have never seen any proof that art is haram. I always felt that people who say this were just extremists.

[@ntz752]

I've lived my entire life in a Muslim country and nobody every said it's haram,these are probably extremists.

[@mxhoney988]

“While art can bring us closer to Allah by reminding us of his beautiful creations,it still has its bad sides it just depends on which you think is right for you” I think that phrases the sin comment, quite well. It is something that you have to decide whether it is good or bad, and we should never shame anyone on the decision they chose .

[@quiescence90]

agreed. when I was a child all the cartoons I watched were imported from the west, which is of course instilled with western values. Now as a parent I'm so thankful for our (malaysian) local kids' shows like Omar & Hana. I think we need the works of muslim artists in the mix of all these things influencing our children.

[@scarlet8078]

All of this is very confusing. A religion has to be straightforward for people to follow. How is it possible that there is disagreement about such a basic premise as whether or not art is haram? I see plenty of Muslim artists shamed on Twitter, who seem to think it is haram to draw anything. I guess many of them feel that way, or why attack those cartoonists in France?

[@coldspaghittie8785]

Damn people who're attacking her probably don't even know how it feels like to be stereotyped at every corner when you're just minding your business.

[@kishinumaayumi]

Imagine someone was in a wheelchair or smth else that was a visual difference amd then someone says "proof that just because you can't walk, doesn't mean you can't walk the mile for someone!" Or if someone looked at Agbadi and complimented his art and compared it to his skin colour or something. Like it's a very weird thing to say because it shows that the visual difference is what you think about the most and somehow everything needs to be a point of refference/ a comparison to their character/ their achievment.

[@RAN._.D0M.143.]

Ikr? Like what do they mean when they say this to people on wheelchairs, they *can't stand up* for themselves so they try to make fun of them?

[@noire6204]

Bluebird app needs to go...

[@MohammedAgbadi]

lmaoooo you think

[@RamenLyz]

Wait drawing is a sin? I've never heard of that in my entire muslim life and even my religion teacher supported my little comics I drew back in mid school *wtf?*

[@kuraiiz612]

My conservative muslim mom support me on drawing too lmao. Idk why people think those Taliban represent us muslim as a whole

[@danrazART]

Sara is a good hearted person. So full of life. All the best to her and you, buddy!

[@mediumxanax]

cool video, just one thing about art and islam is that unfortunately websites like IslamQA pay a lot of money to he prioritized with their posts saying art is haram. It is a way of promoting salafism/wahabism through soft power and skew islamic judgements to their view. Many scholars see art and the artistic form as perfectly fine as long as it is not used for iconography or deifying a person, which is why art depicting prophets are forbidden. Even the first 4 Caliphs of Sunni Islam had their visages stamped into coins. It is really unfortunate how certain views of Islam have been prioritized simply because their proponents are Arab and thus claim to have better understandings of Islam when not all Arabs think like them and many of the greatest scholars were not Arab

[@r.b7979]

Interesting views here , ill look into this kore

[@scarlet8078]

This makes more sense to me. Even in the other Abrahamic faiths (Christianity & Judaism) art can be idolatrous if it's used to make idols that are worshipped. I would think Islamic doctrine would be similar on such a basic premise

[@basementdwellercosplay]

Definitely going to check out Sara's art, from what I've seen in this video it's beautiful 😍

[@MohammedAgbadi]

You should!

[@peggedyourdad9560]

fr her art looks awesome and I can tell her style is going to be one of my favorites!

[@shinysoda6]

Me: I'm pretty good at art *sees Sara's art* Me: *nevermind-*

[@Kelekona]

Wear regular amount of clothing stand next to art = sexual harassment Wear less clothing stand next to art = sexual harassment Wear coverings + reg clothes = weird passive aggressive comments Like can people just...not?

[@coolklefkisarecool]

Muslim men do similar Muslim woman doesn’t wear hijab=misogynist slurs, catcalling and fear mongering Muslim woman wears hijab= “You’re not doing it right” “You have to cover everything” Muslim woman wears niqab= “Your eyes/fingers/mundane body part will attract men!” Muslim woman covers every inch of her body=“This isn’t Afghanistan, take it off”

[@nabilamisilushafirila4130]

I remember one time I was crying because one of my friend told me that drawing living beings (except plants) is haram. The thing is, both of my parents are also artist (and muslims), and I was about to apply myself to art college to pursue my dream to be a comic artist... I was really sure my family had mounts of sin because we drew A LOT. And then I start drawing living beings with flying heads and faceless, until I found out that the ulamas haven't really reach that as a full conclusion, I start drawing again after that, of course for and with good intentions. Always study your religion guys and don't jump into conclusion too fast! ^^

[@flowey01]

I am doing art with flying heads or faceless I knew that there are a perspectives who said it okey to not and draw normally but it’s just my heart is more comfortable with what I am doing

[@duchessoftheprairie]

or don't let any religion dictate how you live and express yourself. that's a good advice i would give.

[@khaledfaisal5192]

“Art is only bad or haram when it is used for bad purposes” REAALLYY?? I COULD NOT IMAGINE!!!

[@yuki97kira]

Mmm yes the floor is made out of floor

[@meriem7069]

Ikr

[@milky8471]

@@yuki97kira People die when they are killed

[@nik0sleepii]

@@milky8471 I can starve if I didn't eat!? AMAZING!!!!!!!!

[@milky8471]

@@nik0sleepii Water is wet

[@whyvern6817]

As a Muslim who studies a lot of texts and actually draw stuff, the only reason for drawing/sculpture to be haram is because of how the newcomer of Islam thousands years ago in the opening of Mecca was really not that strongly religious(not sure the right word too phrase that),once the last prophet died the situation amongst others at that time was quite chaotic like they divided in I forgot the exact number but it's 8 I think groups because they have different approach to Islam and that's why the close friends of the prophet became khalifah/Ruler.Then yeah I'm guessing the reason for it to be bad is because of that and it depends on the intention usually, I want to elaborate more but well I don't want to make it too long and unreadable.Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure it's the correct information I'm sharing.

[@waviimse4567]

as far as i know Qur'an doesnt have any verses aganist art so it isnt haram

[@whyvern6817]

@@waviimse4567 yep the closest it can to being haram is when you cross the boundary that is like praying to it or something similar to that. So its no problem as long as you keep that in mind.

[@guccigirl2389]

most muslims don't care, that's what i hate about these things bc people will think all muslims hate these stuff while in fact only few ppl think it's haram it is art and not something people are praying to ughh

[@steppedonmyglasses]

Not Quran, but there is this hadith Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Those who draw pictures will be punished on the Day of Resurrection; and it will be said to them: `Breathe soul into what you have created.''' [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

[@steppedonmyglasses]

Don't get me wrong tho, i fully support anyone that want to draw, im not muslim anymore afterall. And if Islamic teaching reformed to a more modern one it's a good thing

[@caianimates]

I think the commenter was trying to say the coverings didn't hide the passion, dedication, and spirit that she puts in her art. She handled this extremely well! Telling them the compliment came off as disrespectful even though it was a compliment. I have no Idea why Twitter likes to cause unnecessary drama.

[@creepywaffles4783]

I agree I personally thing that she handled it well corrected the mistake of that person and moved on. I think they’re taking this a bit unnecessarily far but I’m not part of the group that wears them so I have no say in this but I think she handled it well

[@guccigirl2389]

ell as a muslim that live in a society that a lot of people make these "complaiments" it isn't it trust me even the hijabi girls hate it because when they say that they make fun of muslim women who don't want to wear hijab saying that they are making excuses and not wearing a hijab isn't gonna make a difference so yeah if you don't come from a society please don't translate it in a way that you understood bc it is NOT a compliment

[@ineedabetterusername4803]

Df no it wasnt a compliment. It was passive agressive af

[@caianimates]

@@ineedabetterusername4803 I simply assumed. I can never really know if it was a compliment or not, I just wanted to put an "outsider looking in" perspective. I never tried to justify it. I'm simply going off of the information that was presented. Sorry if I offended anyone.

[@caianimates]

@@guccigirl2389 welp I didn't think I ment harm by trying to understand why someone would say what they said (IT WAS VERY DISRESPECTFULI KNOW). I appreciate the correction of it not being a compliment, but don't say I can't talk about it in a way I made it out to be. We all have different thoughts on the matter..... mines was just one of em. Educate me if you must, but you can't tell to stop saying things cause you don't agree.

[@mimik6414]

This applies to artwork redraws as well. There's always those rude comments saying, "before was better". Then they'll say it's their "opinion" when criticized but it's really just a backhanded compliment. At least explain why you prefer the before in terms of style, rather than sounding like an ass.

[@bigdumb539]

as a muslim who's also an artist, i wish the best on her journey because she seems like a very kind hearted soul.

[@phykoha]

Wearing a hijab, or head covering in general is a CHOICE made by the person wearing it. Since she is Muslim, then I know she has a choice. It is a sin for anyone else to force a hijab onto someone. “Hijab bad” is such a shit take made by people who don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s a religious/cultural decision.

[@joined_shores_art]

"Twitter is the breeding ground of problematic and toxic people far more than Instagram" Me, who found someone who genuinely thinks Peach's obviously stylized lips got botox fillers: I beg to differ

[@ShockingPikachu]

People who get Botox but deny getting a vaccine because they don’t want to randomly inject a virus into their body… wait till they find out Botox is a bacteria that attacks nerve cells to stop them from being able to make connections :p

[@joined_shores_art]

@@ShockingPikachu I legitimately have no idea how your comment fits into the subject at all

[@WhisperFrostWolf]

I help mod in a cosplay subreddit, and I can see how that comment immediately makes people feel awkward and offended. The art had nothing to do with their appearance, so it was just weird to point it out. Kinda like how we removed comments that aren’t about the cosplay craft/work someone did: ie: “you’re eyes are so beautiful” instead of focusing on the cosplay/craft they’re bringing up their eyes (not in respect to contacts or makeup for the costume). I can see a devil’s advocate of the commenter trying to say something like “even though their face is covered their creativity still shows” but even still, doesn’t make it better or right. It’s still focusing on something not related to the actual topic and is just weird to say. :/

[@rynne1104]

as a muslim hijabi artist, i am proud and feel represented. But i am also fearful for ppl who wouldnt see past my clothing choices and see my skill for wat it is. Im happy for Sara, her art is amazing and she deserves the world

[@solararah]

Sameee

[@muffyy01]

Culture, appearance, Religion and other factors will never take the fact you're an artist away Everyone who does art is an artist no matter what

[@aandersson9181]

Why is Pingu and his cousins in the comment section? XD

[@MohammedAgbadi]

XD

[@HeyNighT_Art]

As a Muslim, I can say it happen to me. My grandma's, my teachers, and my friends at school will told me that drawing is a "sin" and saying that when I died I would have to make all my drawings alive", my teachers and my friends will go to the next level and rip my drawings, or stealing it without me knowing it and then they burn it. I was thinking on stoping art, but then as time went by I just realized that these people didn't want me to succeed in art. After that I just don't give a fuck about people saying that "art is a sin!" Yeah grandma but look at your grandchild, doing well in art since he was in 3rd grade, I even say that he's doing more bangers than me when I was his age. The fact that that shit back fired her it's SOOO amazing. To all my Muslim friends that really really into art, don't let these types of people drop you down, keep doing what you like, and never give a fuck about these people. Once you're in the top these people will only looked at you and say "I kNoW tHaT yOu'Re gOinG To Do WeLl iN aRt! YoU'rE gOiNg To bE a SucCeSSfUl aRtIsT!", For real, never took their words seriously, I believe in y'all

[@coolklefkisarecool]

I had similar experience. Sometimes, other muslim girls would tell me drawing is haram because the drawing will come to life on judgement day and say “Why did you create me?” Which makes no sense since I draw SUPER stylized.

[@nescient298]

As a Muslim, I don't get it why people judge by religion but not by the person itself. Like, the Quran teaches not to be violent.

[@thatsockspanda9073]

Probably cause of stereotypes of pls history

[@M2607d]

It's Twitter. They think they are already genius like Einstein

[@leexq9875]

As an arabic hijabee Muslim i completely agree,it really piss me off when people have to bring it up to my religion or culture when it have nothing to do with my accomplish. They may think it's like a compliment but it's not , it's annoying and disgusting. And also when they have to bring up non hijabee muslim girls and call them fake muslims??? They have their own decisions and life... So just mind your own.

[@kimichibreathandstinkyswea1940]

She is such an inspiration. Sounds like someone has some Hasad amaright?

[@HoChiMints2007]

ah, 'jealousy'?

[@ackermanlia3312]

@@HoChiMints2007 envy = hadad (حسد)

[@fuumiku]

Genuinely at first I thought it was a diss towards the legend of Korra because the cover of the book is, well, "The legend of Korra" but the next page says "Avatar. The last airbender", lol

[@khosrowrahmani710]

"drawings & art & sculpture is haram" what???! well yes, drawing and sculpting _nudety_ & having bad intentions in mind & Idolising the sculpture is haram, but that's very different! I'm an artist & an Iranian Muslim & we have both drawing and sculpture as in our culture.

[@khadijasenghor286]

* Gasps in offended Muslim artist *

[@Amy-kh3zl]

"which is why you need square space" thats too smooth bro,too smooth~~

[@lucidins9928]

As a Muslim, I find people who say "art is Haram" is incredibly wrong.. because those people under that light view not only art, but writing, cameras, avatars, ANYTHING remotely human or has implements of life as Haram. Which it is not. It is about you thinking you can recreate something that Allah all mighty (God) has made and perfected with his own powers, something you can never do, it's about u not understanding ur position between urself as a human being and ur creator. I adore ur content and I appreciate u saying someone needs to do their own research but those articles u showed were... Just... Had me have the same reaction as the compliment 💀

[@jellie00]

no but people who are not the affected ones like Sara had to really open their mouths withouth even considering how she may have felt bc of a comment that doesn't even have to have a bad intention. it is a major problem how people always try to make a drama out of things that hurt others as if they are not grateful or something.

[@LenaFerrari]

I think Sara was the one who called it out, and some people defended her

[@NelsonStJames]

That's got to be one of the smoothest transitions to a sponsorship ad I've seen in a long time.

[@senihani6634]

I've been following Sara for a few years and many twitter accounts seems to have a problem and issues with her. Some, didn't skyrocket that much. And some, its undeniably unnecessary compliments such as what you're covering today. Yet, seeing her so strong in the face of all the things that comes to her, gives me strength because I'm a muslim artist too. Just a very, small, unrecognizable one.

[@Menelker]

Sounds like captain compliment there is the kind of person to find a African American creator and go "My, how well you annunciate. You should be proud!".

[@Angelic_Dreamz]

Can we appreciate the fact that he credits people's art?? Respect!!

[@CRanunculus]

I interpreted that as "in a world when girls are allowed to burn to death if they're not wearing hijabs due to ancient deadly misogyny, this lady shows incredible talent and skill and isn't afraid". I learn something new every day. I'm an idiot :/

[@justpeachy6450]

I totally get that but definitely a backhanded compliment because the person saying "DESPITE wearing a hijab" as if wearing a hijab/being a muslim hinders you from being a good artist. And that's also offensive because somd muslim are proud of wearing hijab.

[@lizzyrules1999]

Ok so since we all love compliments, Mohammed i love the sound of your voice 💖 like it's actually so soothing and your accent really is just the cherry on top.

[@OwolabiEsther]

Y'all should help this African prince👋 buy him a Kofi. He deserves it

[@creepywaffles4783]

I agree the colors are so pretty in her work!!!!

[@sailornamek9475]

I just read that FCBD book; the art was beautiful! I’ll have to look out for more by Sara.

[@elicemoth]

Thank you for addressing the art-is-haram discussion. It's empowering to hear the same conclusion from another artist.

[@Lampey22]

I like how you pronounce Twitter. “Twitttah” XD

[@SolGladio]

Damn that was a smooth segue to the ad read!

[@uneasycylinder]

The part where you just gush over her art really made me smile like YES Sara’s art is absolutely gorgeous and seeing another person have a similar response to me is just 🥰🥰🥰 big grin

[@miauxy_]

This is probably one of the biggest reason I'm scared to try to reach out to study abroad. I'm a hijabi, I want to study abroad when I was younger but when I notice the large amount of Islamophobia there is it's really discouraging. And I shouldn't be, whether I'm a hijabi or not, what I wear on my head and how I cover my body shouldn't be an obstacle, but it turned to one because these people think that wearing one stops me of success, and if I am able to achieve success, they'd think that it's incredible that I managed to achieve success even though I "wear a Hijab" These people are the ones making it look like that wearing a hijab is an obstacle. Like I don't know man, It's just fabric that I slapped on my head to cover my hair and neck, and modest clothes that I use to cover my body. Why do they see it as something that can hinder a success? If a woman showed off her body she will be called a whore, If a woman is dressed simply, she will be called basic and uninteresting. And if a woman is dressed modestly with a hijab, oh boy. And it's not just men who say this even women would judge other women, and I really want you people to shut your little mouth up, stitch it up Coraline style, and just see someone the way they are for once.

[@nabilamisilushafirila4130]

I had to comment this to prove that art is not haram if it used right: My country is Indonesia, the biggest muslim country. Wali Sanga, one of the aspect why islam spreads fast is because they use art and music as their dakwah medium.

[@Liam-mf4fl]

imagine having a random argument like that online and some random KZbin guy goes like: oh dang is that content I see

[@CJoxus]

I appreciate that you come at these situations logically, without picking sides based on preconceptions. I've never heard of Sara before but I'm excited to check out her comic "Squire", especially if that's where the art at 7:23 comes from. I love the poses and designs of these characters so much!

[@Userh-fq1my]

As a Muslim myself I’ve never ever seen the Quran mention art as haram as there were many many many Muslim artists during the golden age would be praised. It is only haram to paint or sculpt images of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and it is also haram to paint other holy figures in a sacrilegious manner

[@sakurakentasha1851]

Reddit will never learn this. (Not a related topic but tru. It’s a toxic site. You tell people to stop and they be like, NOPE!)

[@crowcove]

(Not trying to argue) as a Muslim artist, no one in my country (which is Muslim) thinks that drawing is haram, only drawing bad things (propaganda, for example) is haram, ex: Someone draws a cat, no one cares, if anything, they would like it! Someone draws something mocking someone from al-qu’an, or any religion, that is haram

[@DAYbreaking_Ideas]

Good Job! was all that needed to be said. Great video Mohammed, Thank you!

[@MohammedAgbadi]

thankyou!

[@problematicprincess6270]

I remember when my mother gave me a backhanded comment she said that I was only good at voice acting bc I was "manipulative" and ever since that I haven't been able to get back into voice acting hell I dropped art altogether for YEARS bc of the horrible comments of others I only just got back into my art. Please watch your mouth and think before you say something to others it can really fuck with your feelings and head

[@daemos1611]

Really glad I found your channel

[@FirstnameLastname-jo7sc]

❤️ Thank you for covering this :D

[@illinoisgirldreaming9085]

When I saw the thumbnail I thought this person was being like “a person can show off their personality and feelings in ways other than facial expressions (since like masks and stuff for Covid) like with art and clothes and stuff”- idk why it didn’t register at all… welp, I’m glad I looked into it more!

[@illinoisgirldreaming9085]

Also her art is amazing! The colors look great and eye-catching, and all the characters look cute and relatable.

[@RyznZ]

Hmmm now this is what i be talking about when I say we live in a world…

[@julesoxana3630]

When they give a backhanded and problematic complient then tell people to "not take it the wrong way"🤔

[@marianierrah]

your glasses looks the same as mine 🤝🤝🤝 also lovely video I love watching your videos and your voice is so calming and fun to listen 👍👍

[@foxbuns]

I really enjoy listening to Mohammed's videos, his voice is really soothing :0

[@shotarokaneda3671]

Her art is AMAZING! If you wanna discuss hijab or not: Commenting on an artists page is wrong. Take it to a religious forum.

[@jorjamejia2539]

Twitter disappoints me more than i disappoint myself

[@sammylee5474]

While everyone may believe or follow a certain religion, there's still groups of people who follow a different set of rules. For example, you can be Christian and not eat or drink a certain food, because of your religion, but then there could be someone who is also Christian, eats and drinks what they want, because Christianity didn't say they couldn't. So on and so forth. That's where the confusion is. I find it ridiculous when non religious people try to dictate or call out religious people, just because they "looked it up" "researched" or "study" religious people. It's extremely off putting, since it not only spreads false information, but creates it as well.

[@Specters0rd]

That's was so out of context though. Why would you mention that when talking about dream projects?

[@mo_dorsdumthings]

I am also Muslim I am mad at this is this is so not fair and also I love watching your videos you’re so cool

[@GiulianaBruna]

one annoying thing about that kind of comment it's that they repeat the offense even if it's to rebuke it. It shows that when you look at a person you are actually thinking about this negative stuff, as if that person naturally need your reassurance that they are okey being like they are, virtue signaling that you are not like the other people who would discriminate her. Like saying "heey I know people probably call you fat and fugly but I think you are really attractive. Smile". YOU are not Katy Perry, there is no need to rewrite fireworks.

[@faultierinderschule9543]

How one poorly worded compliment can become such a big thing is rather scary I think. ^-^;

[@glowtail3744]

If I had to be honest though That person who made the that comment deserves to go to the hellfire

[@MohammedAgbadi]

😭

[@elsasiddiqui5933]

The dr stone ost at the bACK!!!

[@mewmew6158]

Great points! Love your videos!💚

[@MohammedAgbadi]

thankyou! Glad you enjoyed the video

[@tbaproductions123]

That was completely uncalled for

[@supfrag5503]

I don't understand why people don't like to see someone wear hijab they say that it's not "Freedom" I am a Muslim and I have many non Muslim friend one of them ask "why Muslim women wear hijab and men not, it's not fair" like I don't understand why people can't except it.

[@creamofthecrop6743]

No one: Me at 7:24 why’s that claymore’s grip so short?

[@XxVeexX19]

Her art is so vibrant. I love it!

[@SweetTodd]

And that humans, is why I deleted my Twitter.