Molten Modular 17 - Eurorack overflow and update on journey so far

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Molten Music Technology

Molten Music Technology

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Sadly I now have more modules than I have space for. So I'm using it as an opportunity to examine my rack and decide what stays and what goes. I'll go through all my choices, my recent discoveries, my thoughts and feelings about this modular rabbit hole we find ourselves plummeting through. It's an hour of me running on about modular and that.
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@JEPeters00
@JEPeters00 6 жыл бұрын
Best shirt yet...
@sweetcompetition
@sweetcompetition 4 жыл бұрын
Link to shirt
@dcodym
@dcodym 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving this series! I’ve done a ton of research and finding these videos was the most helpful and inspiring thing. Just ordered my first row of modules last night! Can’t wait.
@evilkillbot9414
@evilkillbot9414 6 жыл бұрын
Clouds is like Star Trek. You may not like it at first glance but there's a reason so many people are passionate about it. At some point you will find a blend/modulation/freeze setting that will reveal the magic and you will understand.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Or evolve past it 😊
@evilkillbot9414
@evilkillbot9414 6 жыл бұрын
Molten Music Technology I'm not sure evolve is necessarily appropriate for this statement but I acknowledge not everything is for everyone. I shared your exact sentiment for a time. May I suggest the stereo output of the oliverb? Kudos on your content, I find your approach refreshing and your beginne adventures entertaining, informative tho other times frustrating (tho entertaining)-dammit I know we both hate reading manuals but you blunder past some useful things- maths as an attenuater for example...short of manufacturers constantly throwing modules at you or forever spending at some point you may come to appreciate the depth of certain modules and the vastness, precision, usefulness and reward. Just an opinion. Kudos and thanks, keep making content. Ps unrack the moog, how can u not have plugged that graphic vco in immediately???????
@evilkillbot9414
@evilkillbot9414 6 жыл бұрын
Pps I'm not some clouds super fan but have u seen r benys' content/rig?
@IMNfilms
@IMNfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the channel. Visiting a friend who has more money and time than you do, and watch him gush with the enthusiasm of a true believer, learn from him, and then go off and do your version. Brilliant. One comment: watching your videos has helped me decide to approach modular from a much more minimal angle than you. I think it's possible that you have hobbled yourself from focus by module overdose. I have certain goals I want to achieve with modular: a combination of learning and utility (use in more traditional songwriting). What is your goal? If it's live performance, then look at it that way. Decide what you will do as a performer, then rack up only that. Practice until you've got it, perform it, repeat. Add modules as necessary, to taste.
@IMNfilms
@IMNfilms 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe have 2 or 3 racks, each separate and for Performance, Experimentation, and Other?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe, some people like a focused approach. I tend to push back against the idea that you must have a plan. What was attractive to me in the first place was that I didn't really know where this would take me and actually it's not been important because every step, every module throws up interesting ideas and possibilities. It's a sort of paradox where you don't know if you want to perform with modular until you have enough modular to be able to perform with. I think now, a few years down the road, where i have performed and reworked the system and been able to make more focused decisions that i am looking to compartmentalise more - building a case for gigging is very much a preoccupation right now - but there's no way i could have started this journey with that in mind. It requires so much knowledge and understanding that you might not have when you start out. So i go by the line that you don't have to understand anything or have any kind of plan to begin experimenting with modular. Plans may well reveal themselves along the way, or not! But my journey is not for everyone :D
@shitmandood
@shitmandood 5 жыл бұрын
I'm finally taking the eurorack plunge!! I've gotten smart & bought myself a semi! The Arturia Minibrute 2S had this incredible deal to include a 6U rack/carrying case/cables for just $150 more & it's in the mail heading in my direction in just a few short days. Except for one Make Noise module that I want to start with in the near future, it looks like all you need are a few ES Distings! So I figure it'll be like this: - MB2S experimentation (enroute) - Komplete Audio 6 upgrade + ES cables to leverage Bitwig/Reaktor/VCV-Rack. - Make Noise module (TBD) - VCA - ES Disting (it almost seems like you could have an entire row of these to get a million different combinations of things! But I'll probably just start with just one...) Despite all the talk about having a lot of VCAs, I usually only see 1 or so on most euroracks displayed on KZbin. I'll probably have to load Reaktor or VCV Rack to figure out the value of more of them.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 5 жыл бұрын
Yay! Distings appear useful and they are great at being a test bed or a missing module in a patch but they aren’t fun to mess about with. You need a minimum of 1 VCA per oscillator output. And then more when you want to start shaping modulation - but you probably won’t do that for a while. Getting a quad VCA is a great starting point in my view.
@shitmandood
@shitmandood 5 жыл бұрын
@@MoltenMusicTech Thanks Robin. It sounds like there's no way around the VCA being at the top of the list. The Minibrute has one but from what I've read, it's not enough control. The next question is whether to get a standard quad or something weirded out by one of the boutique vendors. lol.
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 6 жыл бұрын
pull the momma out - room for more modules :-s problem solved regarding the lack of use of the O-coast, why not simply fabricate a little add on to the case so the o-coast is floating on the side? would take about 5 minutes and a £3 piece of timber
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 6 жыл бұрын
That what everyone does :)
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of floating synths that emerge from the sides of the 3 tier Moog rack... hmmmm
@MrFlatlandcycle
@MrFlatlandcycle 6 жыл бұрын
keyboard stand accessories On-Stage Laptop Mount On-Stage ON STAGE 49854 A FRAME KYBD ARM Stagg Super Clamp Accessory Tray music stand Gator Frameworks Heavy-Duty Adjustable Media Tray Stand longer cables Spring cleaning @ once upon a synth is cotangent ;)
@localtechnique
@localtechnique 6 жыл бұрын
Plus the 0-Coast can give you the random voltage source you seek.
@Hirsbrochannel
@Hirsbrochannel 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@john9291
@john9291 6 жыл бұрын
I'm starting out with modular myself and completely understand your approach, keep it up!
@Jimbo386000
@Jimbo386000 5 жыл бұрын
That Jove filter just absolutely sings...
@RawVeganRising
@RawVeganRising 6 жыл бұрын
The Z4000 was one of my first modules i bought too before I ever used a modular synth. I was really confused about how it worked even though I had been into synthesis for most of my life. I opened the manual and the first thing it said was how to use the deviater and attenuverter knobs! I'm glad I did because it set me on the right path straight away. What I really love now are my AJH Synth ADSRs that have a delay feature, for modulation that is invaluable! It also loops and has a hold feature which makes it so versatile as an LFO. For modulation a fully featured ADSR is an invaluable tool.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
That does seem to be the key :)
@kostantinosmag2986
@kostantinosmag2986 2 жыл бұрын
sound Great Nice one....Great video thank you have great times....
@DanFingermanOctopus
@DanFingermanOctopus 6 жыл бұрын
I really like your analysis of your Eurorack ideas and journey. In that way I can live vicariously through your experiences. Well. For now ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶u̶y̶ ̶m̶o̶d̶u̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ that is good enough.
@LittleAmbientMachine
@LittleAmbientMachine 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video🙏🏼. It's so spot on. I am still on the road after 1.5 year. Searching for the right setup buying and selling modules, having love hate relations with them. I sold modules but then bought them again. And so on and so on. Talking to other eurorack lovers tells me one thing. THE SEARCH NEVER ENDS UNLESS YOU STOP hahahaha. But in the end the only thing that counts is IT GIVES A GREAT FEELING. So now back to modular grid marketplace ☀️ keep up the good work and if you have time check some of my one take sessions.....
@LavendelBrei
@LavendelBrei 6 жыл бұрын
Remember that the CV from your ADSR can control anything not just volume.
@jimboburgess42069
@jimboburgess42069 6 жыл бұрын
running the same envelope to my filter as my vcas opened a new world to me.
@VinnieLeeStudio
@VinnieLeeStudio 6 жыл бұрын
And you can run the envelope to control another envelope/lfo, too :) Or make it trigger super fast and use it as a VCO.
@jfklmk13447
@jfklmk13447 6 жыл бұрын
the cutoff frequency input?
@garvinkelly
@garvinkelly 5 жыл бұрын
For your question about getting a quantizer for your turing machine: Have you considered the Ornament & Crime? Look up the "quantermain" mode. It is a 4 channel quantiser that you can feed CV to or you can generate pitch CV internally with built in Turing machine. It is 4 quantised turing machines in a small package. I use attenuverters to help control it better. It also does a bunch of other crazy things. It's not as hard to learn as it appears too (common complaint I see)
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 5 жыл бұрын
Considered it? Yes. But the o_c seems to me to be the exact opposite of what I enjoy about hardware modular. Undoubtedly useful like the Disting I have but not really up my street.
@silasecho
@silasecho 6 жыл бұрын
Uscale is a great quantizer Robin really easy to use. Thanks for sharing your modular journey, i'ts been invaluable in putting my own first case together, cheers sir.
@mcolville
@mcolville 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can take the microScale and shift the scale it's using, so you not only quantize to a scale, but then change that scale based on an input, is huge.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Oooo, interesting
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin Жыл бұрын
Hi Robin You make perfect sense ! You remind me of me !
@philtobin9510
@philtobin9510 6 жыл бұрын
Love you videos Robin, Those shirts take me on a journey in themselves. Keep it up.
@labestia8099
@labestia8099 6 жыл бұрын
"Manuals usually have examples of applications, but there is an inherent assumption that ALL applications are covered in the manual. This is impossible with synthesizer modules because they are experimental devices, and you can easily invent a new application that no one, including myself, has thought of. I am going to set up a website with application "examples", but don't think they are exhaustive in any way. You should not be able to break the module, no matter what you do, so experiment away. The music synthesizer is only 40 years old, so we are all novices." - Grant Richter (Wiard) Cheers, and enjoy the journey
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, I like that
@thestinkyweasel6297
@thestinkyweasel6297 6 жыл бұрын
Quantizing is something I felt I needed too. My Klavis Twin Waves Osc has some onboard quantizing, and I have a WMD Arpitecht + triad expander that is so incredibly musical. I hear good things about the Intelligel Uscale2 as well. Cheers and happy Knob turning!
@MitchGurowitz
@MitchGurowitz 6 жыл бұрын
Take the Moog out of the rack, put it back into its case & put it on top of your rack & free up the HP for other units.
@mike.thomas
@mike.thomas 6 жыл бұрын
I recommend the 2hp Quantizer for now, unless you require a “keyboard” interface for scale making. I use it next to my Turing Machine, and am happy with it. Cheap and small and has CV-able diatonic transposition. A basic clock divider can help you vary your rhythms: 4ms RCD or 2hp Div (CV-able divisions are fun).
@Snuckyfication
@Snuckyfication 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Robin, thanks for the nice video! For the pico, select drum 2, hold the top button encoder until it flashes green (load preset mode) turn until it flashes red (after the 6 load slots) ,now choose your save slot ( one of the six) and briefly push the encoder... settings are now stored in that slot. Next time you can load whatever settings you saved in one of the 6 slots. Voila👍 hope to meet you in the flesh in Berlin for superbooth!
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
See i knew they lit up red and green for a reason - i assumed it was just to annoy me when i'm trying to select a sound :) Not sure i'm going to make it to Superbooth this year unfortunately.
@DoFunkk
@DoFunkk 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, they have been very useful for my modular journey too. :) You can add other 2 more Moog racks above the 3. Just add a metal bar from the bottom to the top inside (between the wood and the screw holes) and would hold the 5 racks together. Also the powe modules you have should be enugh to power the 5 racks. Just pass the ribbon cable from the inside to the top racks. I did that with mine and I have got 5 racks now. It's very solid. :)
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
good tip, thanks - might be getting a bit too high for me :)
@Dogboy73
@Dogboy73 6 жыл бұрын
It’s already been said a million times before for eurorack & Mother 32 users ....... I think you know what I’m going to say 😉
@ScottLHines
@ScottLHines 5 жыл бұрын
It's a damn gateway drug!
@mgscheue
@mgscheue 6 жыл бұрын
Not random, but you can get a lot of complexity out of Batumi by mixing its outputs together, and with self-patching. Don’t forget to play with the four modes. And the Poti expander is nice. It doesn’t give you anything you can’t do with the jumpers, but it’s a lot more handy. Great show!
@TokiKiri
@TokiKiri 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just building my first 104hp rack. I'm just a hobbyist and musically im quite amateur if im honest. I like to just create great sounds and one day hope to be able to put a track together. Took me a while to realise what i want to achieve with my rack but now i have a goal (ambient sound scapes with occational beats kicking in) , I'm finding it quite a lot of fun restricting myself to 104hp and trying to get as much of what i need into it (without just buying 2hp modules). Its like a puzzle. I do have some small modules but i dont want a cramped rack as well as I cant afford to fill it with loads of small things. I did find a great DIY uClouds (Magpie Modular currently being built) which will be a great HP saver. Just wish there was a uRings as well. Maths was also one of my first purchases and although its huge on a 104hp rack i find it very useful. Current build if you're interested: cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_609627.jpg Datasheet: www.modulargrid.net/e/modules_racks/data_sheet/609627 not sure whats going in the last 4HP yet. Need to play with it to see what i need. .... All that said. I am using a Skiff with floating bus power and its really annoying moving things about. I'm considering making a DIY case to my own design. I'm REALLY fighting the urge to make it more than 104hp. I want to keep it portable as well as within a budget. I may go to 2 rows of 84HP AND THATS MY LIMIT!...... maybe 2 rows 96... ;P Anyway. Sorry rambling. Great vid. Love your style and candid approach. Keep em coming!
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Cool - a Pico DSP will fit that gap but not quite fill it :)
@larspanky
@larspanky 5 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt, and I loved this video. Parts of it are like conversations I have with myself. 😂 And I am not getting how to patch maths. So much so I just got a Function.
@modularcuriosity
@modularcuriosity 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding quantizers: The ADDAC "Intuitive" quantizer is amazing because it has four channels each of which can be quantized to the same scale or arpeggio. This way you can have up to 4 voices all playing in tune with each other. However, they're particularly difficult to find right now ever since MylarMelodies did a review of it.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've looked at that. It seems interesting but perhaps overly complex and wide for me at the moment. I've gone with a uScale and I'll see what happens with that.
@MarkoDeLaVoota
@MarkoDeLaVoota 6 жыл бұрын
this is how eurocrack works , more , more , bigger case , I love it. JUST get another case !
@mike.thomas
@mike.thomas 6 жыл бұрын
Mom in her own case, for sure, IMO. I enjoy your vids immensely, even though I'm "experienced" now (I guess).
@nigeltedbury5805
@nigeltedbury5805 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoying watching your journey, especially as I'm at a similar stage to you. You gave me the confidence to build my Turing Machine, so thanks. I know what you mean about Clouds. I too bought mine when i heard it was being discontinued and very soon wished I hadn't. Then I clocked it. Or rather, I triggered it from a sequence from my BeatStep Pro. It tames it and makes it more manageable. Add in a LFO in to either the 'position', or 'size' input (or quantised into the 'V/OCT') and it takes it out of the realm of 'ambient only' into something regular and, in my opinion, more musical. That's assuming you're using a frozen sound source, if you know what i mean? Cheers. :)
@nigeltedbury5805
@nigeltedbury5805 6 жыл бұрын
As for a quantiser, I bought the ADDAC Intuitive Quantiser. 4 channels. It can be complex, but it's very easy to use for its basic functions. Had to get it direct from ADDAC though, as nowhere had it in stock. I'd definitely recommend it.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good choice. I looked at that and the Harmonaig but they were both a bit too much and too wide 😊
@villemaki3067
@villemaki3067 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest you try plugging some LFOs, for example, to the cv inputs on the Clouds and you might find new enjoyable things from it! I think Clouds is at it´s best when used as a granular synth.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've done a bit of that - here, in fact kzbin.info/www/bejne/foTdmoOnpal-b8U - i'm just not that into the granular thing i think.
@IMNfilms
@IMNfilms 2 жыл бұрын
28:39 "Let's not get distracted by strange movements of the Force."
@glenorpheus
@glenorpheus 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Robin and great interview with Divkid. you're Pico Drums will save up to six setups, which includes you're sample selection pitch decay and volume info, you can save settings by holding down the top encoder for a couple of seconds until it flashes green, then you'll see as you move the encoder clockwise the led's will light up indicating the 6 save positions, one more turn clockwise will then take you to the save locations and the encoder will flash red, press the encoder on one for now. when you power on you're rig next time make sure the drum select is set to drums2 and much awesomeness happens. well it'll load in you're last used save. loving you're journey, and just realised i hadn't subbed, well that's rectified. Peace out
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, nice one, thanks
@christopherquine
@christopherquine 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Just a note. I have the Make Noise Contour. You should totally check that out if you're looking for half Maths.I'm sure it's more limited than half Maths but for envelopes, it's brilliant!
@mariusrbech573
@mariusrbech573 6 жыл бұрын
You are spot on! Brilliant!! :)
@hazymind8684
@hazymind8684 6 жыл бұрын
deviate setting seems like a positive offset on the outputed enveloppe. thats why you feel like the gate doesnt fully closes. a non offsetted enveloppe will go back to 0v at end of cycle. if you offset it by 1v, then 1v becomes end of cycle, letting audio pass through at all times at minimum 1v amplitude (vca's gain never goes back to zero)
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, that sounds right
@tiouip
@tiouip 6 жыл бұрын
Robin! good roundup! Love the honesty and no bullshit. Gear is weird n'cryptik. Take the obscure out of modular!!!
@anselmorecoelho
@anselmorecoelho 6 жыл бұрын
the adsr work as a controller like the lfo. It is normally applied to Filters and VCA's to shape them in time.
@onderstroom
@onderstroom 6 жыл бұрын
Just briljant!!! Thanks 👊🏼
@patsybrady
@patsybrady 6 жыл бұрын
You know the answer. Resistance is futile! Get a second case ;-)
@guysmiley7289
@guysmiley7289 6 жыл бұрын
an attenuverter shifts the voltage either higher or lower, like an attenuator but in both directions +/-. You can use your Maths as one too.
@mossgraber
@mossgraber 6 жыл бұрын
Great light saber moment :-)
@jamesbaynton1881
@jamesbaynton1881 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, you mentioned S/H, don't forget you should have a S/H in the m32 you can use, and a random step generator in the 0 coast too.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Good tip
@markwilliamson6884
@markwilliamson6884 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I sold my clouds to buy a morphagene - that was much more what i was after. For a nice Quad VCA - the Doepfer 1-132-4 is lovely - no knobs but dense functionality AND you can overdrive it for a nice dirty sound. +1 for moving your M32 out - mine never made it in - but it sits right in front of my case so it's always patched in
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Morphagene is tempting, but so are the Qu-Bit modules - also i'm not sure if i want to go down the sampling road, or do i?
@markwilliamson6884
@markwilliamson6884 6 жыл бұрын
ha ha - yeah. depends on your music I guess. I like that granular textural element. You can hear how I use it towards the end of this track on my music channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2jcgoeppNqeoLc
@plentas
@plentas 6 жыл бұрын
The part about MI Clouds (~04:20min) - for me it was the same, I didn't get the Clouds at all and then I've upgraded it to Parasite firmware which made it even more complicated which led me to open the manuals and carefully read all of them through. It's amazing module but at the end I think I understand why it was taken away from the market. Anyway, now it's one of the most important modules in my rig.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Although i hate to admit it I am warming to it as i experiment a bit more and get to know it a little better. However, i think something better might be appearing later this year so maybe i should cash it in and spend time on something else.
@WiredSpaceWizard
@WiredSpaceWizard 6 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable! Malekko’s Mix 4 is only 2hp if space is a concern.
@ericmosh
@ericmosh 6 жыл бұрын
Install the Expert Firmware on the Batumi and you have S&H. :)
@jewe321
@jewe321 6 жыл бұрын
To use the mother in connection with your rack, it doesn´t have to be in the rack. Just put it back in it´s case and connect it to your rack whenever you feel like
@Jimbo386000
@Jimbo386000 5 жыл бұрын
So I know it’s even more room than clouds, but check out the intellijel rainmaker. It looks... amazing...
@chemicalBR0
@chemicalBR0 6 жыл бұрын
you never really know what you need until you've bought a ton of modules and start using them (or not as the case may be) I've bought (and sold on) many modules before i got to a rig i was happy with. regarding space... get that mother out of there and back into its original box, it's just WAY too much space to use up in a eurorack. you won't be losing anything but gaining space. (I would have ripped that mother out of there the SECOND I got the graphic VCO in my hands) I have a pittsburgh SV-1 that is not in my rack (it would take up 48hp ffs ;) , like you suggest it sits at the side of my rack.... It is still used in practically every patch. you'll just need some longer patch cables :) the attenuverter on your ADSR will allow you to either amplify the signal (+) or send an inverted version of the envelope (-) like this www.ajhsynth.com/images/New%20Modules/Biased%20inverted%20envelope.png yellow line is original envelope... green is inverted. Agreed the BIA is BY FAR my fave module in euro. (feed it gate patterns into morph fold and harm and all hell breaks loose :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHmQhZqYiqyen7c this is 2 sound sources....... BIA and pico drums. its completely nuts. (it also works great as an OSC... feed cv from a sequencer into pitch then modulate the other stuff and you get some crazy results.)
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Good comments thanks. The BIA is a bunch of fun
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 6 жыл бұрын
That manhattan analog mixer is based on the CP-3 moog mixer! It has a great saturation character :) You can also use unplugged channels to introduce dc offsets and make things fuzzed out.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Cool, glad to hear it's a good thing. It's weird how it's a little 3 channel mixer module that cost the same as an 8 channel mixing console with faders, EQ, sends and metering i bought for live gigs. I've shuffled and squeezed it into the rack. The Mother is staying for the moment :)
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 6 жыл бұрын
I think you correctly highlighted the sequencer as being the most obtuse thing about the MO-32. Everything else is pretty good. An LFO, noise source, a cv adder, and so forth can be very handy. I daily fight the irrational urge to by a MO-32.
@mantid138
@mantid138 6 жыл бұрын
I have the TipTop quantizer and the Arpitecht. Both have pros and cons, but the more I use the Arp... the more I like it. The TipTop, with its slider (and I daresay useless "keyboard") is probably better for more real-time "performance" playing, where I am more set-it-and-forget-it or CV control. I've been enjoying having both, but I think the TT needs to go soon.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks. My only thought on the Arpitecht is that it’s not very interesting to look at 😊
@ezdac5031
@ezdac5031 6 жыл бұрын
You should take the mother 32 out of the rack and use the space to get a Matrix mixer or matrix vca for your batumi. You said you want to combine Batumis LFOs and for that it's perfect. currently your lacking attenuators anyways.putting the batumi outs into something without some kind of attenuation in between is a big no-go for me - subtlety is king! The Matrix mixer solves that. Sure you can use your VCA for it but if your not modulating the level thats a bit of a waste. Batumis expert firmware has built in amplitude control afaik, but that's hidden parameters and RTFM again ;)
@XiXora
@XiXora 6 жыл бұрын
Clouds seems to be discontinued to be replaced with something more intuitive perhaps? I've no idea. I've not even started with synth or even thought about it before. I'm dipping my toes in since I seemed interested in an unreleased pedal (Empress Effects Zoia) that has a guitar and synth background. I initially thought of it to be a multi-modulation pedal. I've watched this series in full and have been hooked in seeing your journey. So much so that I may jump into Eurorack?! I did wonder why one of the popular guitar effects companies are releasing a Eurorack module (Strymon Magneto). I definitely see why. It is fascinating!
@badmonkeyspilljuice
@badmonkeyspilljuice 6 жыл бұрын
Doh, same issues. I limited myself to two rows of 84hp and although I started off with a solid base of modules I've added some off the cuff and some more after careful research. Not all of them are gelling , some are not getting the attention they need - lack of free time also being a factor and it's getting a tad muddled. Now I'm at a state of having to re-think the entire set-up but I can't for the life of me work out what I can do without. All I know for sure is what I'd like to add!! :/
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly this
@ScottofOakland
@ScottofOakland 6 жыл бұрын
Haunted light saber. Absolutely
@jimboburgess42069
@jimboburgess42069 6 жыл бұрын
Mixers, attenuation, and offset add so much and takes stuff away ;-) when integrating LFOs into a patch. If you clear up space from the mother-32 you've got the graphic VCO ready to make up for that voice then it seems like you could fill up some of that other space with a more playable sequencer. II get what you say about quantizers coming from a more traditional music background and bought a disting for the same reason. The want to have everything in tune especially if you play in a jam with other people. But you still need to tune your oscillators after the quantizer. Which means to make everything musical you'll want to always tune your oscillators to each other and to whom you're playing with. So do you need a quantizer? It seems nice to make arpeggios. I appreciate following your journey.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
The quantizer is more for turning the Turing into a tuneful sequencer and for generating melodic ideas rather than keeping things in tune - i tend to tune things as i go :)
@jimboburgess42069
@jimboburgess42069 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's handy for arpeggios and swapping between major or minor scales. I still have to figure out why it'll only spit out one note if the z knob is turned more than halfway to the left.
@JohnEmuu
@JohnEmuu 6 жыл бұрын
i bought maths cause i thought i needed it, but i never used it, so eventually i sold it. You can always play around with lfos modulating lfos. (a slow lfo modulating a fast lfo modulating an oscillator) could be interesting. Ive also experimented using Batumi as a sound source. putting a sequencer pitch info into its input, then putting the channel into audio rates.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, thank you. And yes i'm going to start mixing some LFOs.
@Estica-Music
@Estica-Music 6 жыл бұрын
amazing shirt, it just take my eyes of the rack:(
@GuitarsAndSynths
@GuitarsAndSynths 6 жыл бұрын
I would sell the Moog modules and then you can put the cool Erica VCO into your rack- that thing looks pretty awesome. Maybe try an external sequencer like Beatstep Pro or Octatrack or Korg SQ-1?
@TomGurion
@TomGurion 6 жыл бұрын
Take the time Robin, you are great! BTW, except from the tipping thing youtube streaming does everythign you mentioned.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@mortarmopp3919
@mortarmopp3919 4 жыл бұрын
Robin reminds me of a modern-day, digital hippie.
@britox.6216
@britox.6216 6 жыл бұрын
23:46 beautiful guitar riff
@somegeezer
@somegeezer 6 жыл бұрын
Def put the M32 into its old case. You might surprise yourself how much you use it. But if not, you'll at least have a handful of new modules to take its place and enjoy. You can always switch things out again later down the line. =]
@blerkh
@blerkh 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing shirt!
@NiamorH
@NiamorH 6 жыл бұрын
44:53 nice rhythm!
@AndyVonal
@AndyVonal 6 жыл бұрын
Love it! Great info and, once again, an amazing shirt!!
@lostboy5861
@lostboy5861 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't really seen this suggestion but why not buy another 3 tier mother 32 case and put them side by side since you love the way they look and the height is perfect. Then it start to look like a wall of modular because lets be honest there is no stopping now especially with companies sending you modules
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Well i am trying to contain myself within the 3 tiers, but with the Mother-32 now pulled out and at the side I'm already falling into another 3 tiers..... we shall see - i think i'd need a lot more Patreons to make that happen :)
@AndyVonal
@AndyVonal 6 жыл бұрын
...Just come back to finish watching...that light saber! The force moves in mysterious ways... Oooo that reminds me of a song....
@yeppy013
@yeppy013 2 жыл бұрын
What were the power supply modules you’re using on your three rows?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 2 жыл бұрын
4ms Row Power 40
@danemx5
@danemx5 6 жыл бұрын
I love your shirts!
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - joebrowns.co.uk
@TripleTSingt
@TripleTSingt 5 жыл бұрын
If I would ever come to this… problem/opportunity, I would go through my modules one-by-one. But since one module doesn't do sh** in eurorack, I would take mental notes, which modules I would use to test the one I'm looking at. This way I'd find out, what modules work good together, what modules I tend to use for what purpose and what modules I underuse.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 5 жыл бұрын
Totally
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 жыл бұрын
A time-stamp index of which modules you're talking about when would make your archive of videos more useful/attractive ...
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
And you'll find that in videos where it's appropriate. This is just a ramble. And it's all about the story :)
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 жыл бұрын
That's great. But, for example, I've been looking for where you talk about the Juno filter ... I've watched them all through before, but that was months ago now ... a timestamp index would help, big-time ... As it is, it's just "too hard" ...
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Sure, but i haven't talked about the Jove in any way other than just in passing. That's what I mean - if i've done something proper on it then it will get properly referenced. I will be doing something much more focused on it at some point soon.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Or.... just ask me about it :)
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 жыл бұрын
Molten Music Technology - I see. Hate to ask/trouble people, if they've already answered it somewhere ... are you an enamoured with it as I remember you were? Had a chance to compare it with the SE 8106(?) or others? Would you say it's your favourite filter? Thanks. :)
@willynebula6193
@willynebula6193 6 жыл бұрын
Im thinking it, you are thinking it, they're all thinking it! Get another rack 🤑
@IMNfilms
@IMNfilms 2 жыл бұрын
This video is three years old and I'm commenting as if it's happening mow. Sorry if it makes less sense.
@modularcuriosity
@modularcuriosity 6 жыл бұрын
If you add an attenuverter between the Turing machine and a quantizer you get some amazingly interesting control options. Check out about 7:40 in episode 7 of my modular curiosity channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6G6ZIljdpuLr6M Also, I totally agree with your comments on the Disting. You could build an amazing rack out of 12 Disting modules because the Disting has oscillators, it has VCAs, it has LFOs, it has wave tables, it has filters, it can do everything, but you would have absolutely no intuitive idea how to patch it without constantly referring to the manual.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, interesting, thanks
@mysticvirgo9318
@mysticvirgo9318 6 жыл бұрын
Check out VCVrack ... and yeah I have same issues with my modules with that program as well.. overflow :)
@agogojira
@agogojira 6 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt Robin! :-)
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 жыл бұрын
One should take every opportunity one has to re-examine a good rack ...
@ShiteKnob
@ShiteKnob 6 жыл бұрын
The new Intellijel TPS80W PSU will enable you to take out the daisy-chained 4ms modules saving you 12HP.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah? I think I have the completely wrong sort of case(s) for that - good tip though
@ShiteKnob
@ShiteKnob 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I see, it's three stacked mother 32 skiffs. I didn't see that, apologies!
@BRNTmodularmusic
@BRNTmodularmusic 6 жыл бұрын
I would say #LEAVEMOTHEROUT but I know you like her inside the case, so maybe it’s time to get a bigger bout. Love your videos btw!
@BRNTmodularmusic
@BRNTmodularmusic 6 жыл бұрын
.. or a box with 0-Coast and Mother maybe?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, i'm leaning that way
@gntfilms
@gntfilms 6 жыл бұрын
The most important question is... where do you get your shirts?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
joebrowns.co.uk
@OB1techno
@OB1techno 6 жыл бұрын
Take out the Moog and put it in another skiff with the 0-Coast, whack it on the desk in front of the rest of the rig...?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe. I was also thinking of maybe putting them in two tiers alongside
@philipcarpenter1347
@philipcarpenter1347 6 жыл бұрын
You might want to research Expert Mode for the Batumi: It might be the randomness you seek.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Ooo I’ll check that out
@Dogboy73
@Dogboy73 6 жыл бұрын
I wish Make Noise had made the 0-coast rack mountable.
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 6 жыл бұрын
Well you can always buy maths, a DPO, an Optomix, and a Wogglebug.
@danemx5
@danemx5 6 жыл бұрын
You can mount it with a dab of solder and some electrical knowledge
@index7787
@index7787 6 жыл бұрын
They do make one I thought
@mjmsurvey4976
@mjmsurvey4976 6 жыл бұрын
There are a few videos on here already showing you how to rack mount one. You only need to separate the front panel from the main PEC, then detach the PEC from the rear case. The only fiddle bit is reattaching the power cable, a right angled adaptor is one possibility or just leave a suitable blank space to the left of the case to allow for the Make Noise cable/plug.
@danielgrace7887
@danielgrace7887 6 жыл бұрын
What's the make / model of the four way connectors you have?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Hosa Knuclebones hosatech.com/product/gmm-105/
@slashess69
@slashess69 5 жыл бұрын
Where DO you get your shirts?
@bigdaddy4302
@bigdaddy4302 6 жыл бұрын
how do i even get startet building a eurorack? i know nothing about it, i only have nord lead and virus etc.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Start with my first Eurorack video and go from there - I made them to help people with that exact question www.moltenmodular.com
@FunkTree
@FunkTree 6 жыл бұрын
I went trough whole vid....why I have the same problem:)
@bigdaddy4302
@bigdaddy4302 6 жыл бұрын
i want that shirt
@elvishopper4495
@elvishopper4495 6 жыл бұрын
What are some of your favorite modules my man?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
It changes depending on what I'm doing but actually i use everything in my rack nearly all the time. At the moment I'm loving the randomRHYTHM, the 2HP Pluck is completely awesome and the JOVE filter never disappoints.
@FunkTree
@FunkTree 6 жыл бұрын
Yes varigate is frustrating...and iti is NOT you,.... it is a sequencer after all so editing is an essential must do
@shitmandood
@shitmandood 6 жыл бұрын
Did the Maths get the boot? It certainly had a lot of hype behind it
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, Maths is good
@shitmandood
@shitmandood 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha. What did you end up getting rid of in your Eurorack audit?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing as yet - i took out the M-32 and generated some space - check out my latest video for how it all looks now.
@b_r_i_z_z_y
@b_r_i_z_z_y 6 жыл бұрын
Shirt game is of the hook, where did you get that bad boy from?
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
joebrowns.co.uk
@AndyVonal
@AndyVonal 6 жыл бұрын
Re: quantisers...If the Disting is doing the job well for you now and it will also be a delay and a whole bunch of other things (and only takes up 2hp) why not get another couple of them? You know how it works and it's ultimately useful, rather than exciting. Just a thought.
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, disting goes against everything I love about Modular. It’s useful but I don’t enjoy it and certainly don’t want more of the buggers
@AndyVonal
@AndyVonal 6 жыл бұрын
Ah ok I understand. It just seemed to make sense from what you were saying in the video. I guess variety is the splice of loaf, or something like that! I've had too much vino colapso and am having great fun right now with a Volca Keys and a Space Echo RE-20 (which I borrowed from a mate....). Ooooo it's luuurrrrvvvvly!
@SalvadorCalaf
@SalvadorCalaf 6 жыл бұрын
Get rid of Roland and put the Mother 32 back in its original case. Great video!
@Alan-mu5jd
@Alan-mu5jd 6 жыл бұрын
Get the sonic potions Penrose!! it´s killer
@christopherquine
@christopherquine 6 жыл бұрын
Mother32 has some random via the assign output (#8)
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
yes it does, but the sequencer has to be running to use it.
@christopherquine
@christopherquine 6 жыл бұрын
Molten Music Technology not ideal but in a pinch.
@localtechnique
@localtechnique 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Demora, have you looked at the customizer tool for it? You can reconfigure the internals of the AIRA modules in a number of ways. www.roland.com/global/products/aira_modular_customizer/
@MoltenMusicTech
@MoltenMusicTech 6 жыл бұрын
Yes i have - you can do all sorts of exciting things with it, but i'm just not into hidden, deep level functions - i want it to be a delay :)
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