Parsifal - Verwandlungsmusik - Transformation Music - Wagner - Solti

[@AvatarYoda]

I've been listening to this piece a lot over the past several months, sometimes multiple times a day. It has a cleansing, healing effect, and I need that now.

[@christianwouters6764]

It is indeed addictive. So much is going on here, the mood shifts are so vast that even after many hearings it remains a mistery.

[@sephyradance4648]

I feel the same way. This music is magical.

[@victorakandu9419]

You must all know Parzival then? Today he is on Earth for the end of the Judgement and the beginning of the Kingdom of God on Earth in which He is King! He is known as Parzival-Imanuel! Mankind shall experience... Imanuel... God with us! Immediately after the Judgment... It is His Presence on Earth that is responsible for the Natural Workings which we erroneously call disasters... They are the cleaning up of our rubbish as failed human beings! Parzival means.... From God to man!.... A gift from God to His Creation! But we failed hence the judgement also known as Purification! The music is even more magical with the knowledge of Who Parzival-Imanuel truly is!

[@thursoberwick1948]

We are in bad times. The Ahrimanic forces are rising, disguised as their opposite.

[@willypeters2969]

So kind of you to share this; I hope it has helped you through the time of need. I cannot listen to this music without getting emotioanlly touched on a deep, unknown, level. It always makes me feel safe, no matter what may come. I wish it has done something similar to you.

[@tomab17]

Parfisal is a perfection, from the first note to the last. What an extraordinary musical journey.

[@christianwouters6764]

Let's say, perfect for 95 % of the time. I allways found the Flower Maidens passage very awkward and even smw opera comique-style. Maybe Wagner couldn't resist the temptation to show off attractive young ladies 😀. Pity for him that the beauties are mostly imbodied by obese elderly primadonna's now. Any way, it makes Wagner altogether more human.

[@moltovivace]

@@christianwouters6764 This is an important part of the opera. It comes from Buddhist folklore, with the demon Mara sending his daughters to tempt Buddha astray from completing his meditation leading to enlightenment under the Bodhi tree. Makes total sense, seeing Parsifal is a combination of Christian and Indian religion.

[@j.p.westwater2334]

@@moltovivace Based and Schopenhauer-pilled

[@bibobabu8756]

​@@christianwouters6764That's interesting because the Flower maiden scene has always been my personal favorite moment hahahaha

[@christianwouters6764]

@@bibobabu8756 musically it isn't, just simply waltz themes. Offenbach operette style. And lasts far to long.maybe intentionally by Wagner because imo he had surely a Sense of humor

[@markharder3676]

So many leitmotifs flowing into each other, blending seamlessly into a coherent whole...

[@ban9nas177]

For me this is the greatest piece of music ever created, and perhaps the most beautiful creation of all mankind… such beauty can save us entirely, it will save the world… in the end we will have nothing left to show for ourselves than our creations and our art, and when this is, let us show Parsifal.

[@stillstanding6031]

Wow! What raves. I wouldn't say it's the greaatest piece of music ever written, but it comes darn close, It never disappoints and I never tire of it. My introduction to Parsifal was in the early 60s. Wagner was a Sorcerer without equal.

[@VallaMusic]

As a minor composer myself, lol, I must agree - I bow to Herr Wagner - nothing surpasses Parsifal - way to go Germany - you should be proud - in a good way, of course - not in a WW2 let's dominate the world way

[@moltovivace]

Žižek called Parsifal and Tristan the two greatest works of art mankind has produced, I am inclined to agree.

[@jimnelson9754]

It is. Hard to believe anyone create this

[@wodanswolf]

@@VallaMusic actually also in a ww2 let's dominate the world kinda way

[@VallaMusic]

this whole 'opera' like one big theme(s) and variations - like holding up a giant jewel and displaying it from so many different angles - watching how it shines under so many types of light and color

[@Deelystaniel]

great comment

[@ansiedeswardt]

Lovely description

[@christianwouters6764]

There is only one weaker passage in Parsifal, the flower maidens episode. It is far to long and not in style with the rest of this magnificent work.

[@АлександрАлексеевич-н3ю]

Это как говорил Шерберг)

[@stillstanding6031]

Brilliant observation. Probably one reason a commentator above, having read the score, can't find a satisfying recording. I like Soliti's very much, but I have to say that Kna and Levine's are my faves.

[@danawinsor1380]

I sometimes wonder, how did Wagner do it, that is, how was he able to create so much magnificent music during one lifetime? This "Transformation Music" is one of the non-vocal sections of Parsifal that can travel deep into one's soul and inspire one forever. The other wonderful example is the "Karfreitagszauber" ("Good Friday Magic"). I ascribe that music to Wagner's generosity, an extra sublime experience that isn't directly related to the story but overwhelms us with still more inspriation.

[@johnmueter378]

Music not of this world. Magnificent performance.

[@tomab17]

A piece of music into a piece of music. This one is a summary of all germanic symphonic music. Perfection.

[@YeshuaHamashiach5791]

Hearing this and considering the complete dumpster fire of our current era, truly is tragic what we've lost...

[@mertuncensored]

I hear and sense so many things in this music: time,universe, infinity and its possibilities.

[@AirchimeLTDproductions174]

Parsifal my personal favorite opera out off all the compositions written by Wagner. From it's heavenly stirring prelude and interludes to it's celestial contents. For me nothing has truly topped this classical 💎

[@VallaMusic]

I agree - I'm an amateur composer, but I can't imagine any composer not feeling like they're writing crap thanks to Wagner's monumental Parsifal

[@RealAmericanTough]

An unparalleled genius.

[@christianwouters6764]

What an astonishing creative journey Wagner has accomplished from his early works in the mundane style of Weber and Meyerbeer to this hyper genial and never surpassed level of expression! I was truly transformed when I heard this the first time.

[@christianwouters6764]

By chance I heard lately some fragments of W's first opera das Liebesverbot. It sounded really bad , second rate Weber( which in itself is not good)...difference with Parsifal is stunning.

[@MrBulky992]

​@@christianwouters6764Are you sure it wasn't "Die Feen" you heard? The comic "Das Liebesverbot" sounds more like Donizetti!

[@christianwouters6764]

​@@MrBulky992I am not sure...some time ago I read that this transformation music actually was not composed by Wagner himself but by his young assistant Humperdinck.

[@MrBulky992]

​@@christianwouters6764For the first performances in 1882, extensions to the music were written by Humperdinck because the background scenery on the stage was on rollers and the time taken to unroll it from start to finish was longer than the duration of Wagner's music. This fault with the stage scenery was corrected when the production was next revived and the music restored to Wagner's original version which is what we always hear today.

[@christianwouters6764]

Thanks for the info. So we don't know how Humperdinck did his job I suppose . It would be interesting to know this. I once had a comparable situation when writing arrangements for a movie. The scene was altered and was 2 minutes longer. A problem because the orchestra was waiting...

[@lindabreuning8423]

If Wagner's music was comparable to pain, it would be the sweetest suffering - so beautiful as to be almost painful.

[@Resplencemelodi]

I've called it scorching before now. Just lovely

[@LtAld0Raine]

Well, the later Nietzsche called Wagner "an illness". I can see what he meant. If you listen to Wagner long and often enough, you end up abandoning this world.

[@sephyradance4648]

Yes indeed, you worded it just right! Too much beauty makes one suffer, as indeed elation itself is also often filled with intense pain. It's the secret of Wagner's music...

[@druim-nan-deur]

Thanks for the inspiring comments. You all clearly understand the magic of Wagner’s music

[@yyhyyhuhd5719]

@@Resplencemelodi uuhyuuuuuyuuu tu i5 tt

[@Erge08]

Magical! Unearthly Music - unearthly Opera... and what a perforrmance....

[@joeowens6180]

Solti's 1970's recording is the absolute Gold Standard. Miraculous. This is an earlier recording.

[@mercedes932]

Kna '62 takes the cake for me.

[@alex669953]

​@@mercedes932why not?

[@alex669953]

Stay by me lady

[@VINGC]

sublime, beautiful, amazing, wonderful, extraordinary beautiful.

[@baldo6566]

Wunderschön!!!! Nadie más ha sido capaz de igualar la belleza de la musica de Richard Wagner.🥰🥰🥰

[@williamvasiladiotis2903]

Breathtakingly beautiful music!

[@grgaperos]

The feeling this music causes in me is longing... longing for more of it. The majestic sounds of it create a mental loop that asks for more and more and it's never enough. The attacca on the strings, the fanfare-ishness of the trombones, the anticipation of the resolved tonality suspensions... it's all like a drug of which you can't get enough. You want it to be louder but more silent at the same time, and that this line from the violas comes more in front of the violins but also not. When I listen to this, I feel like a sponge full of pain being squeezed out and drained 7:54-8:08 only to suck in that pain again in the next motive or phrase... inconceivable are the thoughts and emotions in this, no words can describe it.

[@andreapandypetrapan]

Dear Molto Vivace, Thank you for another wonderful Wagner exert, beautifully illustrated by the infinite dimensions of space and time. Some rare, very rare, figures in human culture have this miraculous gift and power of concentration! They reach with astonishing technical prowess into the vast and essentially womanly collective subconscious realm, which in truth permeates and animates all of reality (including our mostly illusory ego-perspective), and thereby extract utterly transcendental elements. Moulding these elements within some supreme formal structure that can be grasped by our limited ego-perspectives (or rather is transmitted straight through them to our own deep psychical levels), such genius then electrifies our whole psyches, with nothing short of the words of absolute female divinity! If Rachel von Wagner (as I have always called her in my woman's heart) had not been such an idealistic humanitarian (I say only half-facetiously), despite her-his notedly petulant, vengeful and egomaniacal personal shortcomings, then her heaven-storming genius might have assumed a quite diabolical power and tyrannical sway over much of European and indeed world culture. A demonic philosopher princess, of perhaps a New crushingly totalitarian Germano-Roman empire, made more lurid and more protracted and more sinister by immense artistic gifts in the service of untrammelled cruelty and genocidal relishing of purification by extermination. As if Dante and Shakespeare had started to write irresistibly evil but intoxicating tracts, praising and summoning great destruction and hatred, and the actually satanic. But in fact Rachel walked almost always in the light of our female life-creative and life-protective sensuous-erotic energies. The female forces of utterly altruistic love and noble kindness! Not unlike the smile of the Buddha (another patent woman in disguise), or wise and valiant Athena, and shimmering and hypnotic Aphrodite, and loving Kali Ma, and mighty Isis, or bejewelled winged Hathor, and the supreme goddess of the sky Nut, and life-birthing Gaia Herself! Advance we woman, of every land and culture around our blessed island Earth, we daughters of Kali Ma and Gaia! Love andrea

[@jean-jacqueslefevre873]

Summum musical un pur chef d'œuvre qui ne peut être égalé

[@silvanacosimi5550]

Semplicemente FANTASTICO!!!!!

[@gerardbegni2806]

Solti is here an immense conductor. He builds crescendos and decrescendos, tone shortages of a gigantic power.

[@jamjam9253]

Best Wagner conductor ever!

[@gerardbegni2806]

@@jamjam9253 It is a bit touchy to write such radical points, partly because it is somehow subjective, partly because we did not hear conductors one century ago. But writing that it is a top level wagnerian conductor, that is triue without any possible contest. He id alos one of the best ones in musics that have absolutly nothing to do with Wagenr (Bartok for instance).

[@jamjam9253]

@@gerardbegni2806 You make a wayyy to big issue out of that..

[@davidgerhardus3885]

@@jamjam9253 that should be the answer to almost every negative comment on youtube

[@koryos4273]

@@jamjam9253 Knappertsbusch on Parisfal is great too.

[@jeffersonfontes6435]

Magnífico, sublime !!!

[@stillstanding6031]

With Solti, we hear everything Wagner wrote; nothing gets lost. Remarkable conducting. Some call it a little too "tight, bordering on the chilly". And I agree that you can sacrifice some rapture because of it. But it's very much like the difference between driving a Buick and driving a BMW. In the BMW, you feel the road; you experience it all. I think that's what Solti sought. A great deal of rapture remains except rather than lush, it's crystalline.

[@mertuncensored]

This is as good as it gets.

[@arikiiskinen]

My blood runs cold when I hear those bells.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

The funniest thing is that in this particular recording they do not even use bells. They constructed a contraption that uses piano strings instead.

[@markpettis2896]

@@QuotenwagnerianerI do love Decca's recordings of wagner but I must admit the Bells in this sounded weird Thank you for the info I wonder how John culshaw would have handled the Bells?

[@BlackHermit]

Strong transformation. Thank you.

[@stefansimon-autor4602]

The Master is the Master.

[@andrewhillis2269]

So glad I found this ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@alex669953]

Glad for you !

[@jeffersonfontes6435]

Musicalidade de grande força expressiva, digna de um espírito forte como o de Wagner.

[@agelessprajna2955]

a music such as no other

[@markilsemann17]

I've actually never heard a version that completely satisfies me. It's almost as if the potential of this music is more than mere human beings can render. Solti's version is excellent, don't get me wrong... but in every single rendition, there seems to be something missing. It's truly sublime music, in the truest sense of the word: It can't be grasped by mere mortals.

[@koryos4273]

I absolutely agree. That's the best version i have ever heard. The speed is perfect.

[@christianwouters6764]

True. When reading the full orchestral score, it seems impossible to let hear every detail while at the same time maintaining the cohesion. I suspect Wagner did this intentionally, particularly in this astounding passage : "zum Raum wird hier die Zeit". Dimensions get mixed together and become fluid. Agreed that this Solti version is spot on .

[@CarmenReyes-em9np]

Cierto 😃 El Santo Grial con la espada.

[@JoseAntonio-pk2nq]

Try Knappertbusch recordings, the best was recorded at Bayreuth in 1951

[@ban9nas177]

@@JoseAntonio-pk2nq agreed that one is the greatest recording ever.

[@StephenLyons-tl8ie]

Beautiful.

[@terminator324343]

Even now I remember how entranced I was when I saw Parsifal at the Met...

[@davidho0603]

By Yannick Nezet Seguin?

[@alstewart9212]

Opera is only for the serious student of music. It’s deep.

[@terminator324343]

@@davidho0603 Yep, the same.

[@yewtoob2007]

I was there. I was there.

[@wlrlel]

Maybe the greatest "opera" at all.

[@ivicaloncar2147]

EXTRAORDINARY !!!

[@frederickmuller8891]

Richard Wagners größte Oper

[@Alekos-Maniatis]

Finde ich auch. Dann noch der Tristan.

[@michaelsproule6172]

A sublime universal utterance

[@pierrejourdan4819]

Magnifique !

[@rsenk2]

Und Verwandlung soll es in der Welt geben! - Peter Hofman Kolk

[@dwh82001]

The fact that Wagner can be simultaneously so obviously evil yet so undeniably holy is the challenge of human existence itself.

[@moltovivace]

We all have light and shadow within us. With Wagner it was just very exaggerated to superhuman levels.

[@wheretheeaglefly4451]

Many great artists writes great music,but none like Wagner...

[@jeanmarieballestra7892]

Yes , you are absolutly right !!

[@augustoa.8415]

Lo grandioso es solo un epíteto de esta genialidad...

[@mr-cs2ip]

Is perfect!

[@christophermcquaid6256]

Sublime : One must have the Bayreuther Festspiele 1951,1962,Solti and Jordan,in one's music collection.Live in performance is best, but some,eg Munchen if not all productions ,spoil it for me.Next 21st April,2019,Staatsoper Wien.

[@fatimacanche9081]

BRAVO !!!!

[@BenEmberley]

Next to the 1998 Sinopoli Bayreuth recording, the best there is.

[@ursulaattenberger7083]

Diese geniale Musik kommt erst so richtig rüber wenn sie richtig schön langsam dirigiert wird. So wie von James Levine in 4,5 Stunden und nicht wie von Pierre Boulez in 3 Stunden und 40 Minuten.

[@gondolin1910]

Zu langsam finde ich nicht gut. Hans Knappertsbusch hat mit seinen etwas über 4 stündigen Auftritten einen guten Mittelweg gefunden

[@untruelie2640]

​@@gondolin1910 Selbst diese finde ich aber noch zu langsam. An manchen Stellen wirkt die Musik dann oft schleppened, fast lethargisch. Eine gewisse Dynamik sollte schon transportiert werden. Diese Version hier gefällt mir dagegen gut.

[@MonastraOperaSymphonyClassical]

la magia del sonido a servicio de lo místico

[@thierryranger2230]

This music is more important than you think. Einstein once discovered this and the seeds were planted for his upcoming theory. 'Here time becomes space'

[@fatimacanche9081]

La disfrute en una funcion de vallet con esta musica

[@FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930]

Grandioso Wagner..

[@fatimacanche9081]

PARSIVAL fue una incente jovencito que le dieron unos monjes antiquisimos a guardar EL SANTO GRIAL Y LA ESPADA QUE ROMPIO EL CORAZON DE CRISTO EN LA CRUZ. Es todo lo que se sabe.

[@angelalfonsorojasquiroz5936]

Profundamente Sublime y Espiritual, por fin el Hombre vera al Padre Creador y llegara a su primera Meta trascendental en el Infinito Progreso Espiritual.

[@rzbo9000]

la música es 100% material

[@angelalfonsorojasquiroz5936]

@@rzbo9000 Si así fuera, tendrías en tus manos unas cuantas melodías, las cuales manipularías a tu antojo, no me refiero a las partituras, si no al sonido de esa partitura, que fuera tan material, que cada quien tendría las que le gustan, no electrónicamente ni en LP, u otro medio, si no que fueran materiales como tu dices, respeto tu punto de vista, lo que me dice que no tienes sentimientos, ya que la música para ti es una cosa material, de la cual tomas físicamente el sonido y lo mueves a tu antojo, de ser así, para que tener reproductores y artificios electrónicos para almacenarla, espero un comentario técnico para que aprenda como es físicamente una nota musical y que forma tiene y como agarrarla y luego como escucharla, un saludo.

[@rzbo9000]

Los sonidos son materialidad acústica, ondas sonoras que viajan por el aire, por eso en el espacio no se propaga el sonido, no se puede hacer música sin instrumentos tangibles jaja, su error es creer que solo lo corpóreo es material, también hay materia incorporea

[@angelalfonsorojasquiroz5936]

@@rzbo9000 No te creas un soberbio listo, no le des la vuelta a lo que tu llamas música material,, contesta eso y si quieres nos ponemos a discutir científicamente con mas profundidad la naturaleza del sonido, estas muy lejos de lo que acabas de contestar, no entiendes muchas cosas que no tienes idea que ocurren en el Espacio, SUPUESTAMENTE VACIO, un saludo.

[@rzbo9000]

No dije que el espacio estuviera vacio, dije que en el espacio exterior, fuera de la atmósfera, no hay aire, el sonido es una onda mecánica que necesita un medio para propagarse, de hecho sin instrumentos no hay música, sin CD's y lp's como usted dice tampoco no hay música, la musica es solo material, de donde opina que no es así? La teoría de los sentimientos (un invento de Tetens) no tiene nada que ver, poco importa si la música lo pone feliz o triste, eso es completamente independiente del valor de la obra, y mucho menos meta la religión, tampoco tiene que ver nada con la música

[@STILS33]

Good awesome muzika.UNIVERSE

[@samoied]

People accuse, blame and curse Richard Wagner for many things. This music alone reedeems him for any syns he might have committed in his whole life.

[@christianwouters6764]

It's only a matter of time before W is the next victim of the woke enthousiasts. Luckily this brand of people are grossly ignorant in cultural matters. So it may take a while.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@christianwouters6764 Avoid it. Buy CDs and LPs and keep something to play them on.

[@jessenowells2920]

@@christianwouters6764 You don't need to make Wagner or anybody else an icon. Real people are messy and have contradictions.

[@TomTomGo44]

Wagner never committed any atrocities! His family was close to the nazi because of Hitlers admiration for Wagners music. Only because a monster like Hitler was fond of his music doesn't spoil Wagners genius

[@panther7748]

​@@christianwouters6764 He was an asshole in literally all aspects. And it's not "woke" to call him an antisemite, because he factually was one.

[@stillstanding6031]

Puccini has proprotedly said that when he got stuck "muscally", (as in blocked), he's always go to Wagner.

[@moltovivace]

True. Although reportedly, Puccini couldn't finish Turandot because he couldn't come up with a love duet to compete with Wagner's Tristan und Isolde duet.

[@donquijotedelucena4782]

Preciosa melodia

[@cj5273]

This is God

[@SilviusLeopoldWeiss]

A little bit exaggerated. As if it would be a spiritistic session. Sometimes i think, that the music of wagner is something like a substitute for what Protestantism has lost with the abondoning of the catholic faith in transsubstantation

[@demcadman]

As I get older, I tend to agree with ur statement. Hare Krishna.

[@thursoberwick1948]

A very dim reflection. The world is not fully ready for him. It is poised more towards his materialistic opposite.

[@jerrolpickering4668]

Truly, we are in ..... Wagnerian Times.....j

[@joseyoldi2105]

Un audio de Solti sólo puede ser superado por un video de Solti. Son dos espectáculos: el de la escena músico-teatral y el de la "performance" de Solti. Hay alquien ahí que nos pueda ofrecer el vídeo ? Gracias por adelantado.

[@CarmenReyes-em9np]

Pesival la vi dramatizada en teatro grabado. duro 4 horas un sueño de belleza. Acá en Mérida Yucatán tenemos un cine cultura. dedicado solo a obras de está talla.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZeno]

Uploaded the full orchestral and vocal score to this recording, wunderbar!: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2TNdGmLdthqd9k

[@TheOneAndOnlyZeno]

Also now a Piano score, for easy studying of Wagner's genius: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4ecdZ6mgKaBhZY

[@nolanpreece6522]

May I put this video in my website?

[@hugoschwarz9084]

mente en otra dimensión

[@ۈࢪِدۿہ]

Nice

[@Carlos111111able]

7:32 booooom

[@Erge08]

E = mc2

[@Skarmo.]

Failed :( E=mc²

[@Erge08]

in terms of keyboard-skills

[@steffen5121]

time is space

[@hedahedoh4488]

E=mc². Not a bad approximation, I think, whereby E equals Emotion, measured in degrees of Rapture; m equals music, expressed in (notes, instrumentation, intervals and time); c equals genius. As it showed, the result cannot be adequately expressed by numbers or words.

[@sabrinaschantz]

die musikalische form gottes

[@SilviusLeopoldWeiss]

Vielleicht ein wenig übertrieben? Das ist ja fast schon spiritistisch...

[@CarmenReyes-em9np]

Percival es a quien le entregaron El Santo Grial y la espada que le claron a Visto en la cruz. A un jovencito campesino.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Weißt du, was du sahst?

[@jeffersonfontes6435]

Wagner em seu epílogo compôs está Obra de profunda espiritualidade, reconhecimento do milagre Divino da vida e o dom de Jesus Cristo. O Santo Graal, cálice da Última Ceia simboliza o amor que une a humanidade para a vida eterna. Parcifal levou Nietzsche a se afastar de Wagner.

[@elsalohengrin7777]

vielleicht. .Meiner Meinung nach, war Nitzsche eifesüchtig...andere Dinge sind geschehen und seine große Liebe zu Wagner verwandekte sich in Haß.... Wie schrieb etbzum Schkuß, Nietzsche: Erlösung vom Erlöser Und Gott ist Tod, ist eigentlich diese Teil des Patsifal, überirdisch, beyond

[@yogatonga7529]

1:29

[@佐々木保-h9n]

ショルティのWagnerだけは特別に素晴らしい！

[@alstewart9212]

May you discover Wagner before you die! So true that so many miss much of life. He was a devil but I love his music. A strange dichotomy

[@ProtoIndoEuropean88]

@@thierryranger2230 A horrible person does not have the capacity for such spiritual music. You claim he is evil for "anti semitism"? as if the jews could ever be able to produce anything good but corrupt anything they touch

[@Aliali-oy3lb]

And then, wagner dead in Nietzsche's eyes...

[@koryos4273]

He still liked the sound of music.

[@bidistone1]

.digital

[@stillstanding6031]

Wagner was a Sorcerer: The divine conjurer of arguably the most beautiful music ever written----and---- a proponent of some of the most evil racial philosophies of the 19th and 20th centuries. How do we reconcile these two aspect of a man? With great difficulty! I give this one up to God.

[@mertuncensored]

There is no such thing as evil, nor god...And Wagner was a musical genius who happened to had lived around a time in which nationalism was on the rise, that's all.

[@stillstanding6031]

Yes, like today!

[@mertuncensored]

Like today, I agree,sadly.

[@moltovivace]

"Being a good person" is often the price paid for genius I'm afraid.

[@jaikee9477]

A proponent of some of the most evil racial philosophies of the 19th and 20th centuries?? Are you out of your mind? Wagner had a dispute with German-Jewish composer Mendelssohn. They hated each other which lead Wagner to write a stupid essay on Jewish art which was targeted at his opponent. English wartime propaganda deliberately ripped it out of context. In fact all the leading scholars confirm today that Wagner would NEVER have supported the Nazis or the persecution of Jews.

[@Maximus1ize]

What is the holy fucking shit music

[@lagerthameyer8296]

Aryan music 😍😍

[@alainterieur5004]

indeed :)

[@SaadSaad-pw6fr]

🇸🇦👍🏻👍🏻

[@hansneusidler7988]

The hymn of german arrogance

[@ProtoIndoEuropean88]

The only arrogance came from the jewish idea that the world belongs to these people, and that these people believe they are "god's chosen" The Germans are in fact the most Nature divine touched people out there.

[@ShaneyElderberry]

It’s a scene in which Parsifal first observes the cult of the grail. An introduction to new knowledge, even if it’s mysticism. Amusingly, after the expression of Amfortas, Parsifal states that he is still ignorant of the event he witnessed.

[@josu-te7qf]

Musika zoragarria benetan. Orain dela gutxi aurkitakoa😊

[@snoopenny]

I attended 4 performances at the last revival at the Met Opera, and I’m Jewish, albeit cultural and an atheist. Wagner’s music moves me so much, despite his being a scumbag as a human being, and virulent anti-semite.

[@yewtoob2007]

Saw Parsifal at the Met Feb. 2018, third row. I was just feet from Amfortas (Peter Mattei) revealing rhe Grail as Gurnemanz (Rene Pape) encouraged him through the pain. Unforgettable!

[@markharder3676]

If Wagner's operas are antisemitic, I don't find it there; even in so thoroughly Christian a piece as Parsifal. People find antisemitic politics in his music. I think that if you believe it, you will see it: but if you look for something more transcendent, you will find it instead. Bach's passions are the same.

[@kyrarnsugr7844]

@@markharder3676 I too have looked into Wagner's operas, for going on sixty years now, and find no antisemitism in them. All arguments to the contrary are contrived rationalizations by people who find what they want to find.